Ellen DeGeneres is Not as Nice as You Think She Is
Her breakthrough, she explained, came when she developed a bit about whether she was still relatable, which, considering the extravagant surroundings (she and de Rossi have works by Richard Serra, Tracey Emin and Basquiat), does sound like a joke. But it is a subject DeGeneres understands in a personal, idiosyncratic way, “It was interesting to me that I was more relatable when I was closeted and dishonest than when I came out,” she said.
When she came out of the closet in 1997, the first out lesbian lead of her own sitcom, “Ellen,” she became a huge star, on the cover of Time, accompanied by the headline “Yep, I’m Gay.” But what’s remembered less is what happened next. ABC put a parental advisory warning on the show and canceled it the next season. According to DeGeneres, her straight audience left her and she received wounding criticism from gay viewers for not being political enough. (Elton John’s comment that she should stop talking about her sexuality and be funny still stings.) She sank into a depression.
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 119 | December 13, 2018 8:28 PM
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NY Times is after her. She dissed them a few years back and they never forgot.
by Anonymous | reply 1 | December 12, 2018 12:24 PM
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OMG SHE'S A REAL HUMAN!? How dare her.
by Anonymous | reply 2 | December 12, 2018 12:25 PM
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Worthwhile read. Very clickbaity though
by Anonymous | reply 4 | December 12, 2018 12:29 PM
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She's really nice for a lesbian with a New Orleans leather scene biker chick background.
by Anonymous | reply 6 | December 12, 2018 12:36 PM
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Poor Ellen. Dissed by Dame Elton who makes a very convincing lesbian - small, fat and dumpy and prone to hysterical outbursts.
by Anonymous | reply 7 | December 12, 2018 12:38 PM
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She really is an intolerable asshole. Unpleasant, demanding, and cunty
by Anonymous | reply 8 | December 12, 2018 12:41 PM
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R8 so am I sometimes, but at work I have to fake it and be tolerant and somewhat pleasant.
by Anonymous | reply 9 | December 12, 2018 12:50 PM
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Before I click, can anybody tell me do they address her drinking and her bitchiness to everybody "beneath" her? Or is this a puff piece?
by Anonymous | reply 10 | December 12, 2018 12:53 PM
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R10 yeh, they also talk about how she sometimes gets diarrhea, and picks her nose when no one is looking, and occasionally passes gas.
by Anonymous | reply 12 | December 12, 2018 1:00 PM
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It's actually a very flattering article, even though the headline is clickbaity.
Dame Elton is such a goddamned asshole.
by Anonymous | reply 13 | December 12, 2018 1:04 PM
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The interviewer asks her about that reputation, R10, and she says it makes her mad because she only allows people who are pleasant and decent to work on her show. It comes across a little less convincing than she intended it, I'm sure.
Nothing about the drinking.
by Anonymous | reply 14 | December 12, 2018 1:05 PM
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A lesbian friend of mine who works at a bar/restaurant in West Hollywood told me that Ellen came in several years ago with Anne Heche. She told me that Anne was really sweet, but Ellen was a total cunt.
by Anonymous | reply 16 | December 12, 2018 4:24 PM
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her new comedy special was directed by Tig Notaro! How long before the very sane miss Notaro will tell the press that Ellen is a cunt and possibly a predatrix?
by Anonymous | reply 17 | December 12, 2018 4:29 PM
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How come any time a lesbian gets to a certain level of fame or prominence, people start calling her a bitch for no reason at all. We never hear people talk like this about Letterman or straight male hosts that are definitely assholes.
There are people in the comments at the New York Times who have met her and they say she’s perfectly nice.
by Anonymous | reply 18 | December 12, 2018 4:30 PM
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There are too many stories from too many sources about Ellen's cuntery, temper and boozing for them not to be true. Too bad about the puff piece. Saves me a read. I also don't believe for a second that Portia is pressing her to quit. That sounds like bullshit to me.
by Anonymous | reply 19 | December 12, 2018 4:31 PM
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No one on this board thinks Ellen is that nice, the gossip mill about her has been loud and consistent.
by Anonymous | reply 20 | December 12, 2018 4:32 PM
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Where have the rumours about her having a drink problem come from?
by Anonymous | reply 21 | December 12, 2018 4:36 PM
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Any adult who likes pranks and practical jokes is mentally ill somehow.
by Anonymous | reply 22 | December 12, 2018 4:36 PM
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I used to DVR her show and watch it everyday when I got home from work. I stopped after getting sick of the same old routine (giving away money to inspirational people, dumb games, etc.). I happened to catch one of her shows recently and she really does seem like she hates being there. More than ever before. She needs to let that show go and spend her millions.
by Anonymous | reply 23 | December 12, 2018 4:37 PM
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I'll bet she rips nasty farts during commercial breaks.
by Anonymous | reply 24 | December 12, 2018 4:39 PM
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why is she conflicted about leaving the show? she obviously hates doing it (she's painful to watch) and has more money than god. Why the fuck she cares?
by Anonymous | reply 25 | December 12, 2018 4:47 PM
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Well, Portia says right there in the interview in front of the reporter that she wants Ellen to quit, so if it's bullshit, it's bullshit that she's helping to orchestrate herself.
by Anonymous | reply 26 | December 12, 2018 4:49 PM
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I don't think Ellen could have gotten to where she is by being nice. I did a Fox show with her years and years back called "Open House". She was very quiet and kept to herself. She was dating a female photographer. I later saw her in the early morning hours at a Drug Store in Cheviot Hills looking at fashion magazines. She remembered me and was as nice as could be. I'm glad she's a success but I also think she, like many comics, have a hard time with this kind of success.
by Anonymous | reply 27 | December 12, 2018 4:55 PM
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She's a huge cunt and everyone who interacts with her has known it for a while.
Didn't Vanity Fair or the New Yorker do a piece on her years ago about this?
by Anonymous | reply 28 | December 12, 2018 5:00 PM
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[quote] Ellen came in several years ago with Anne Heche.
Honey, that would have been more like twenty plus years ago.
by Anonymous | reply 29 | December 12, 2018 5:01 PM
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I don't get the fawning and accolades for her AT ALL. From the article:
Among her vast collection of awards are the Presidential Medal of Freedom, the Mark Twain Prize for American Humor and 32 Emmys.
by Anonymous | reply 30 | December 12, 2018 5:01 PM
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A certain subset of Dataloungers loathe out gay people, and the very concept of being publicly out and unashamed.
Another subset hates women, and lesbians in particular, and any outspoken, successful woman.
There is a lot of overlap between those two subsets. Consider that when reading Datalounge.
by Anonymous | reply 31 | December 12, 2018 5:02 PM
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I want to hear more about working on the set of “Open House,” please. Did Mary Page Keller resent becoming a supporting character to Alison LaPlaca?
by Anonymous | reply 32 | December 12, 2018 5:05 PM
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The piece is totally unsurprising and not worthy of quoting.
This was the only part that stood out for me:
[quote]cracking several jokes, for instance, about her fabulous wealth. (Forbes reports that she earned $87.5 million this year, making her the 15th-highest-paid celebrity in the world).
The NUMBER$ you read about these days. Just astonishing.
by Anonymous | reply 33 | December 12, 2018 5:06 PM
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Face it, when you get right down to it the assholes outnumber the nice people in the entertainment industry 10 to 1.
by Anonymous | reply 34 | December 12, 2018 5:14 PM
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^agree. She's a very mediocre talent, can't believe she managed to become that wealthy.
by Anonymous | reply 35 | December 12, 2018 5:14 PM
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I can't stand her, and she is Justin Timberlake
by Anonymous | reply 36 | December 12, 2018 5:19 PM
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I very much dislike her. she's an enabler of celebrities and helps them do dumbass redemption shows - kardashian/kanye and bieber. efff them.
by Anonymous | reply 37 | December 12, 2018 5:19 PM
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She is the reason all the hobos keep disappearing in the 5-mile radius around her house. Their bodies are never recovered.
by Anonymous | reply 38 | December 12, 2018 5:22 PM
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She's the biggest cunt that ever cunted.
by Anonymous | reply 39 | December 12, 2018 5:23 PM
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She's the snatchiest snatch that ever snatched.
by Anonymous | reply 40 | December 12, 2018 5:27 PM
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Is Portia doing some sort of weird Vivien Leigh attention getting thing there?
by Anonymous | reply 41 | December 12, 2018 5:27 PM
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Her tired 90s lesbian look with the short hair has to go.
by Anonymous | reply 42 | December 12, 2018 5:32 PM
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R26 I think Portia says whatever the fuck Ellen tells her to say.
by Anonymous | reply 43 | December 12, 2018 5:32 PM
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[quote]Her tired 90s lesbian look with the short hair has to go.
Is that a 90s thing? I didn't realise.
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 44 | December 12, 2018 5:38 PM
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R44 It wasn't considered fashionable back then. The 90s is responsible for making the look "chic."
by Anonymous | reply 45 | December 12, 2018 5:42 PM
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So Ellen was still “nice” back when she first did Carson? The times would check out.
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 46 | December 12, 2018 6:46 PM
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My dear R42, short hair on lesbians is as timeless as it gets. What would you have her do instead, grow it out to bra-length and style it in beachy waves?
by Anonymous | reply 47 | December 12, 2018 6:55 PM
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She comes across as having a mean streak.
by Anonymous | reply 48 | December 12, 2018 7:09 PM
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How dare that lesbian dress like a lesbian! Doesn’t she know “lesbians” are so twenty years ago!
by Anonymous | reply 49 | December 12, 2018 7:12 PM
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R48 describes half the posters on DL.
by Anonymous | reply 50 | December 12, 2018 7:12 PM
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& which half do you belong to, R50?
by Anonymous | reply 51 | December 12, 2018 7:22 PM
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I'd say she's a desperate cunt. She's got a strange look in her eyes, and her annoyance is clear when she wants to talk but people keep cheering.
Yep. My balls would withdraw into my chest cavity for protection were we to meet.
by Anonymous | reply 53 | December 12, 2018 7:27 PM
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I thought her early standup routines were funny. I loved her sitcom but thought it went downhill after the coming out episode. the supporting cast was great and funny, also. I never liked her talk show, it's just so run of the mill, promoting all these untalented celebs we have today. And the stupid games, the meaningless shallow interviews. Yet all the fraus love the talk show and it gets big numbers. That's par for the course in today's fucked up U.S.
by Anonymous | reply 54 | December 12, 2018 7:36 PM
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[quote]Yet all the fraus love the talk show and it gets big numbers. That's par for the course in today's fucked up U.S.
Gurl, not just the USA.
We have our own Giggling Gertie in England.
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 56 | December 12, 2018 7:49 PM
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^^ Oh and in fact, very little else.
by Anonymous | reply 57 | December 12, 2018 7:50 PM
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The missing question: Why do you dress like a 14 year old boy?
by Anonymous | reply 58 | December 12, 2018 7:55 PM
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She;s a walking Venn diagram of cutesy and cunty.
by Anonymous | reply 59 | December 12, 2018 8:06 PM
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R58 It's no one's business
by Anonymous | reply 60 | December 12, 2018 11:31 PM
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Short hair does not look good on a woman with big ears.
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 61 | December 13, 2018 1:36 AM
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Her hair is even shorter than that now, and it makes her ears stand out even more.
by Anonymous | reply 63 | December 13, 2018 4:45 AM
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She used to date a good friend of mine who was talked about on here all the time. Ellen cheated on her and was horrible to her. And then gave her a million dollars to go away.
by Anonymous | reply 64 | December 13, 2018 4:53 AM
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I don't think anyone around here thinks of E as nice.
R64, if it's the beautiful A, I couldn't not imagine that every lesbian she meets is in love with her.
by Anonymous | reply 65 | December 13, 2018 4:55 AM
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R64, you scoundrel! Give us a decent hint!
by Anonymous | reply 66 | December 13, 2018 5:02 AM
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R9 isn't that exactly what she does???
by Anonymous | reply 67 | December 13, 2018 5:04 AM
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We’ve been saying this for YEARS! She’s an angry person and an ugly drunk. Vile 24/7.
by Anonymous | reply 68 | December 13, 2018 5:05 AM
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R66, R65 guessed it. And yes, R65 she is wonderful and a good person. Ellen did her wrong.
by Anonymous | reply 69 | December 13, 2018 5:07 AM
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She looks like a young Jeff Sessions in r61’s photo.
by Anonymous | reply 70 | December 13, 2018 5:09 AM
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I thought the same as R41. Portia pulled a Vivien Leigh act of epic, burning of Atlanta proportion.
Portia calls Ellen, knowing very well she is in mid-interview with the NYT, to inform of a concussion. WTF? You can’t do anything about a concussion anyway. She wanted to get a reaction from Ellen, demonstrate her importance for the reporter to note, and obviously attention grab. She shows up shortly after, interview still going, and she is apparently fine.
Portia de Drama Queen seems a bit unstable. Speaking as an older lesbian with some experience, it’s familiar. I think Ellen’s biggest problem is Portia. Ellen cares too much about what Portia thinks and seems afraid of losing her. Surely Ellen is not perfect and has her own baggage and shit to work out. Portia seems high-maintenence, not exactly talented, and wants Ellen to quit her show so she can feel better about not achieving nearly as much as Ellen. Ellen doesn’t want to let go of the show because on some level she knows her confidence and self-worth would be diminished, and she needs both so that she is not overcome by Portia’s demands and judgment.
Ellen may be mean to staff and drink too much, I’ve no idea. But she is gifted, pretty damn quick and funny. Her talk show has indeed become padlum for the masses, but don’t forget her stand-up and her very good sitcom, Ellen. And under intense pressure and expection, she pulled that coming out episode off beautifully. The first of its kind. That alone.
by Anonymous | reply 71 | December 13, 2018 5:15 AM
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I thought it was off too that Portia accidently got a concussion during Ellen’s interview and then accidently came home during the interview and accidently toldnthe NY times reporter that she was pressuring Ellen to give her up her dream gig.
by Anonymous | reply 72 | December 13, 2018 5:23 AM
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R27 if you think about it, she is essentially a supervisor of people, like most big name celebrities. She has to run her own show. Like most, she probably is nice to the ones who do a good job, and not so nice to the ones who don't. These are probably the ones running around complaining. I think it would impossible to be a supervisor nowadays, it would be so hard to pry people off of their damn phones.
by Anonymous | reply 73 | December 13, 2018 5:24 AM
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[quote] How come any time a lesbian gets to a certain level of fame or prominence, people start calling her a bitch for no reason at all. We never hear people talk like this about Letterman or straight male hosts that are definitely assholes.
Welcome to the world, Baby New Year!
Here's a hint: A lesbian is also a woman.
by Anonymous | reply 74 | December 13, 2018 6:37 AM
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R6 is she a top or bottom?
by Anonymous | reply 75 | December 13, 2018 6:39 AM
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I have heard that as well about her R68, how she is a total cunt to guests, staff, etc. once the cameras are off.
by Anonymous | reply 76 | December 13, 2018 6:41 AM
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[quote][R64], you scoundrel! Give us a decent hint!
Is it the one who married Jodie Foster? She must have a thing for famous lesbians with money. I mean, what are the chances of someone dating two of the most prominent lesbians in Hollywood unless it's an ambition.
by Anonymous | reply 77 | December 13, 2018 6:52 AM
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I think she acts like an asshole to people ON camera. She makes a lot of her guests uncomfortable and has made comments in the past directly to people that made me cringe. Her interview demeanor is off-putting with certain guests where you can tell she's really not engaged or doesn't really like them.
by Anonymous | reply 78 | December 13, 2018 6:54 AM
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The bottom line is that she's not funny; a crap interviewer; and a moody dyke. Yet despite all that, she has bulldozed her way to a multimillion dollar fortune and fame. So if that's not some sort of achievement, what is? Persistence is everything, and she clearly has it in buckets.
by Anonymous | reply 79 | December 13, 2018 6:56 AM
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She used to be funny. She's gotten a bit meaner over the years. Those games she plays on her show that everyone seems to love seem like torture to me. Like when she gleefully pushes some button the plunges someone down a hole as they beg her not to or when they hang people from ropes or dump water on them. I always think someone is going to get hurt and she'd just laugh and laugh.
by Anonymous | reply 80 | December 13, 2018 6:59 AM
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[quote]She used to be funny.
Only to a few desperate lesbians seeking media self-representation.
For most everyone else, her humour was as forced, awkward, and puerile as it has ever been.
by Anonymous | reply 81 | December 13, 2018 7:02 AM
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R77, that person was the only one I could think of whose name started with A. If it's her, I don't know why we're all being so cryptic; that relationship was very public.
As an aside, I have a friend who only dates women above a certain income level. She gets very angry if you ask her about it bluntly; she likes to say that she is "attracted to successful women," and the money is incidental. But everyone in her social circle knows what's up. She's living a gay version of that old adage, "It's as easy to love a rich man as a poor man."
by Anonymous | reply 82 | December 13, 2018 7:02 AM
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R81, her older comedy specials are funny. Maybe you have other issues with her.
by Anonymous | reply 83 | December 13, 2018 7:24 AM
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It's odd they haven't had babies.
Ellen has made it clear she doesn't like them - and clearly, neither does Portia.
by Anonymous | reply 84 | December 13, 2018 7:30 AM
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Well then r84, it's not odd that they haven't had babies, now is it?
by Anonymous | reply 85 | December 13, 2018 7:35 AM
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Do people watch her show for her or for the celebrities and cheesy antics?
Reminds me of that grumpy old English interviewer who thinks it is all about him and can't hide is disdain for guests (unless it is someone of his vintage or they grovel to him).
by Anonymous | reply 87 | December 13, 2018 7:46 AM
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If Ellen doesn't like babies, that in and of itself is the reason she didn't have any. It's not odd or unusual. This isn't 1952, and it's not weird if a woman who doesn't like kids doesn't have kids. Get it?
by Anonymous | reply 88 | December 13, 2018 7:49 AM
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[quote]How come any time a lesbian gets to a certain level of fame or prominence, people start calling her a bitch for no reason at all. We never hear people talk like this about Letterman or straight male hosts that are definitely assholes.
Everybody knows Johnny Carson was an asshole.
by Anonymous | reply 89 | December 13, 2018 7:50 AM
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I don't think it was Jodie Foster. She wouldn't need a million dollars to go away.
by Anonymous | reply 90 | December 13, 2018 7:51 AM
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Also, she's must be in menopause...they have terrible moods.
by Anonymous | reply 91 | December 13, 2018 7:51 AM
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R78 so she’s basically another Wendy?
by Anonymous | reply 92 | December 13, 2018 7:52 AM
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The woman who married Foster, R90. Apparently, she took one million from DeGeneres after the breakup.
by Anonymous | reply 93 | December 13, 2018 7:53 AM
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[quote]If Ellen doesn't like babies, that in and of itself is the reason she didn't have any. It's not odd or unusual. This isn't 1952, and it's not weird if a woman who doesn't like kids doesn't have kids. Get it?
OK. I'll spell it out for you. Very rich homosexual celebrities USUALLY, when they've bought everything that money can buy, GET KIDS. Got it?
by Anonymous | reply 94 | December 13, 2018 8:01 AM
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Yawn. Yet *another* thread about Ellen's supposed drinking, nastiness, killing puppies, etc. Surprised posters haven't once again predicted Ellen and Portia's breakup; DL does that every few months.
Poor envious queenies trapped in their sad male cube frau lives. Face it boys: you're never going to be rich, successful, and a loved celebrity. Just kills you doesn't it? lol
by Anonymous | reply 95 | December 13, 2018 8:54 AM
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Boring. I was hoping for some real dirt.
by Anonymous | reply 96 | December 13, 2018 9:10 AM
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I think she still has a huge get up about being gay, she's not comfortable with it. Watch when she is interviewing a good looking woman, she gets very uncomfortable. That coupled with the trauma she went through when she came out is probably why she's a cunt. Not that it excuses her ill treatment of people though.
by Anonymous | reply 97 | December 13, 2018 9:26 AM
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[quote]Poor envious queenies trapped in their sad male cube frau lives. Face it boys: you're never going to be rich, successful, and a loved celebrity. Just kills you doesn't it? lol
I love the meangurls on DL who shriek at people about how mean they are.
by Anonymous | reply 98 | December 13, 2018 9:56 AM
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Recent Blind Item said she fired two writers who asked for a raise. Anyone who wants a raise on her show gets sacked.
by Anonymous | reply 99 | December 13, 2018 9:56 AM
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I'm not particularly a regular viewer of her show because it tends to be too bland, but it does have its moments.
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 100 | December 13, 2018 10:51 AM
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Glad I wasn't the only one who thought that, R71 et al.
I'd love to say that makes them unique/quirky but honestly, that kind of drama plays out in every lesbian relationship I've ever seen. Often the butch is really jealous of the femme and it's just a big push/pull.
by Anonymous | reply 101 | December 13, 2018 1:50 PM
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Could "A" be Alison La Placa?
by Anonymous | reply 102 | December 13, 2018 2:17 PM
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Sorry to bust everyone's plate, but lesbian world in every city (even mine) is VERY small and tight-knit. It's not that strange that someone would go from one "high profile" partner to another. The number of other lesbians we all know is pretty small to begin with, especially once you exclude the married.
by Anonymous | reply 104 | December 13, 2018 3:47 PM
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R100, I've never been a big fan of Ellen, and part of the reason why is because her public persona is oddly sanitized and asexual. So I love that very subtle flirtation starting at 0:38 in your clip; it seems unscripted.
by Anonymous | reply 105 | December 13, 2018 5:03 PM
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Never heard a good word about her personally. And you can see the cuntiness often on her show.
by Anonymous | reply 106 | December 13, 2018 5:07 PM
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"....as you think she is"
OP, I stopped thinking about her a long time ago and when I did think of this cunt, it wasn't with fondness.
by Anonymous | reply 107 | December 13, 2018 5:10 PM
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C'mon Ellen.....LEZ be friends!
by Anonymous | reply 108 | December 13, 2018 5:19 PM
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That crazy Anne Heche said Ellen was the best sex she ever had! Ellen must have a super tongue!
by Anonymous | reply 109 | December 13, 2018 5:53 PM
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Ellen's youtube video views are very high. They go straight into the millions. No wonder her shows ratings are so high.
by Anonymous | reply 110 | December 13, 2018 6:40 PM
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What do the Frauen see in her? This is what fascinates me. Doesn't her audience consist of the straight housewives who are generally uncomfortable with lesbians, in an "Ewww, she might look at me in the changing room!" sort of way?
by Anonymous | reply 111 | December 13, 2018 6:53 PM
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She's always giving away things to the audience. That's why she's popular.
by Anonymous | reply 112 | December 13, 2018 6:56 PM
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I've heard so many horror stories coming from interns who worked on her show. This doesn't surprise me in the least. I used to like her too.
by Anonymous | reply 113 | December 13, 2018 7:00 PM
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I've heard many horror stories about her making a big deal out of "rescuing" dogs and then pawning them off onto others.
by Anonymous | reply 114 | December 13, 2018 7:11 PM
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Does she ever do a segment on Michwomyen and Nutloaf Recipes ?
Does she do any segments on Dildo maintenance ?
Does she do any segments on proper vaginal hygiene ?
Does she discuss Flannel apparel and accessories ?
Does she Show how to properly maintain a Subaru ?
If NOT WHAT GOOD IS SHE ?
by Anonymous | reply 115 | December 13, 2018 7:52 PM
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If that's true, R117, then it's disgusting. Imagine rolling in all those Frau millions, yet parsimoniously tipping the waiter 15%. At the very least, doesn't she care about fighting our image as tightwads?
by Anonymous | reply 118 | December 13, 2018 8:15 PM
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