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Ashley Judd OPPOSES Prostitution Calling It "Paid Rape"

Adding that “cash is the proof of coercion” and that “buying sexual access commodifies … girls and women’s orifices.”

“one cannot consent to one’s exploitation,” and espouses her belief that when a man “purchases sexual access to a woman” “his female colleagues and his loved ones … become the collateral damage.”

“Inside of a woman’s body is not a workplace,” Judd wrote, blaming the commodification of women’s bodies on buyers and “a distortion of the argument that it’s just capitalism and entrepreneurship.” While she acknowledged that “for some folks … their body is their commerce,” providing them with “the economic means to survive,”

by Anonymousreply 87December 14, 2018 11:35 PM

Does she act anymore or just make ridiculous pronouncements that reveal how emotionally and psychologically damaged she is? Shut down the "world's oldest profession"? Get real, Ashley. She cashed in on her looks while she had them and now she wants to deprive sex workers of their income based on her presumably secular beliefs. She's a big bore. From "whore" to "bore" if you will.

by Anonymousreply 1December 10, 2018 11:30 PM

[quote]Ashley Judd OPPOSES Prostitution Calling It "Paid Rape"

I agree

by Anonymousreply 2December 10, 2018 11:36 PM

From Victorian puritanical values on the right to Victorian puritanical values on the left!

by Anonymousreply 3December 10, 2018 11:38 PM

That’s what I called watching her in the last season of Twin Peaks.

by Anonymousreply 4December 10, 2018 11:38 PM

SWERF! SWERF!

by Anonymousreply 5December 10, 2018 11:40 PM

The red light district in Amsterdam is so depressing.

by Anonymousreply 6December 10, 2018 11:40 PM

she's on some show on the starz or some such. "Berlin" I think, so I think she is stilling acting a little.

by Anonymousreply 7December 10, 2018 11:40 PM

I suppose it's an unpopular opinion but I agree. This isn't female empowerment it's the lowest form of female debasement.

by Anonymousreply 8December 10, 2018 11:43 PM

[quote] Ashley Judd OPPOSES Prostitution Calling It "Paid Rape"

[quote] I agree

Then don't watch gay porn.

by Anonymousreply 9December 10, 2018 11:43 PM

Prostitution is not female “empowerment”, it is slavery,

by Anonymousreply 10December 10, 2018 11:46 PM

How do male prostitutes fit into her philosophy?

by Anonymousreply 11December 10, 2018 11:51 PM

R8, what about courtesans? Geishas?

by Anonymousreply 12December 10, 2018 11:51 PM

She should mind her own business

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by Anonymousreply 13December 10, 2018 11:51 PM

I'm sorry but you can't redefine an institution that's been with humanity from time immemorial, like it or not. Re-branding prostitution as rape doesn't work - not only that but it's presumptuous, as if one can take control of the terminology because of personal passions alone. Everyone knows the difference between rape and prostitution - it's self-evident. Poor played out Ashley has no where to turn except to use publicity as therapy. She should join a moderate church, do good works and pray in place of flapping her yap. I suspect she's not too bright.

by Anonymousreply 14December 11, 2018 12:01 AM

She's probably right, but it threatens rentmen.com. So confusing

by Anonymousreply 15December 11, 2018 12:04 AM

There's a lot of truth to what she's saying, IMO

by Anonymousreply 16December 11, 2018 12:05 AM

Anybody who's been really poor and stuck in a really shitty, low-paid and exploitative job will tell Ashley to stick it up her ass. The vast majority of people being taken advantage of are working in non-sex-work jobs for unscrupulous employers. But she doesn't care about that. She's just pretending to be outraged that some people - NOT JUST WOMEN - are able and willing to make a living by being willing to have sex for money. She thinks it's more respectable for them to work a physically demanding minimum wage job that will leave them broke and disabled in their fifties.

As if she and her mom and sister didn't "make nice" to make it. Now that's she on top of the heap, she can criticize women in the same position she and Naomi and Wynonna were in.

by Anonymousreply 17December 11, 2018 12:05 AM

So what does she call adult movies then?

Hollywood self righteousness at its finest.

by Anonymousreply 18December 11, 2018 12:12 AM

[R17] Very well said. She's looks at all women as victims and has a pathologically negative view of sex and men. Maybe she should have thought twice before whoring herself out to get ahead in Hollywood - from what I heard whispered about her she was very promiscuous and a drunk. She got pretty far on simply being very attractive (not exactly beautiful but pleasing to look at) and having modest talent.

by Anonymousreply 19December 11, 2018 12:13 AM

I’m with her.

Buying & selling humans = slavery

by Anonymousreply 20December 11, 2018 12:15 AM

R11 that's paid rape too

by Anonymousreply 21December 11, 2018 12:16 AM

No, r17.

The root cause of prostitution is a patriarchal society that devalues women & makes them dependent on men.

If women weren’t broke & desperate, then they would not prostitute themselves.

by Anonymousreply 22December 11, 2018 12:18 AM

Men are pathologically negative not her view of them. Name one other job where workers (almost exclusively female) get killed so often on the job by their employer (almost exclusively male).

by Anonymousreply 23December 11, 2018 12:19 AM

[quote]she was very promiscuous and a drunk.

R19, your misogyny is showing.

by Anonymousreply 24December 11, 2018 12:19 AM

Because, yet again, women are only victims who have no choice in anything that happens to them. Little puppies with no accountability and no brains to make smart decisions -- and this is coming from the Progressive side, not the bigots.

Plenty of women, especially in Europe, are just fine with making money this way and they call the shots. Male prostitutes too.

Ashley Fucking Judd, jesus, broadcasting from her life of luxury since minute one. My God, what she's been through (not)!

by Anonymousreply 25December 11, 2018 12:19 AM

I wish she’d shut up. She’s in love with the sound of her own voice, and her extremely inflated view of her own intellect.

by Anonymousreply 26December 11, 2018 12:19 AM

[quote]Name one other job where workers (almost exclusively female) get killed so often on the job by their employer (almost exclusively male).

If it were legal, it’d be a lot safer.

by Anonymousreply 27December 11, 2018 12:21 AM

[quote] Anybody who's been really poor and stuck in a really shitty, low-paid and exploitative job will tell Ashley to stick it up her ass. The vast majority of people being taken advantage of are working in non-sex-work jobs for unscrupulous employers. But she doesn't care about that. She's just pretending to be outraged that some people - NOT JUST WOMEN - are able and willing to make a living by being willing to have sex for money. She thinks it's more respectable for them to work a physically demanding minimum wage job that will leave them broke and disabled in their fifties.

But it's not the same. We all know it isn't. If your eighteen-year-old niece needed some extra cash, you might advise her to take on a job at McDonald's. But you wouldn't advise her to become a prostitute. Even hardcore sex-positive libfems generally admit this if you push them on it.

by Anonymousreply 28December 11, 2018 12:29 AM

I saw a video of her from a couple of years back after she scolded an airport security worker for calling her "sweetheart" and complimenting her dress. Vile woman. She compared his behavior to Saudi Arabia! I would have smiled and said "thank you" that someone was nice to me and tried to make me feel young for half a second. She looks crazy-eyed, on pills, puffed up and much older than her 50 years. She enjoyed her life in the fast lane, made tons of money, fucked around and now that she's menopausing she's evolving into one of those scary, not too-well-educated Hollywood women with a huge chip on her shoulder. They are a common sight around the west side of Los Angeles. I never believe she's actually talking about what her lips are saying. At least batshit crazy Faye Dunaway doesn't try and get "feminist" or "political" on us.

by Anonymousreply 29December 11, 2018 12:29 AM

“it were legal, it’d be a lot safer.”

That is a myth. Prostitution is legal in Germany and it is not safer, it just promotes sex trafficking.

by Anonymousreply 30December 11, 2018 12:32 AM

Next she'll be calling to re-institute Prohibition. Bring back the 18th Amendment, Ashley!!!!

by Anonymousreply 31December 11, 2018 12:36 AM

Unfortunately, it elevates rape up to prostitution! Rape is down there in the gutter with violence & brutality!

by Anonymousreply 32December 11, 2018 12:36 AM

"From Victorian puritanical values on the right to Victorian puritanical values on the left!"

You do understand that feminism has absolutely nothing to do with puritanism, right?

"She thinks it's more respectable for them to work a physically demanding minimum wage job that will leave them broke and disabled in their fifties."

No. She thinks we should strive to build a society where no woman is so poor that she has to sell her body against her will.

"How do male prostitutes fit into her philosophy?"

They don't. Feminism is about women. Just women. What men do between themselves is their business, but obviously the economic changes Judd advocates would help poor men as well as poor women.

Hey, by the way-- whatever happened to the poor? Remember when liberals actually cared about them? Now you never even see the P Word, least of all on "woke Twitter."

by Anonymousreply 33December 11, 2018 12:37 AM

[R33] Your critique represents the total misunderstanding of sexuality, politics and economics so prevalent on the Left these days. I used to consider myself "Left" but now I want no part of it. It's passion-based, neurosis-based, anti-men and confuses destruction with idealism. What are you trying to get at? A basic income for all women and women alone? Is this wonderful "new" society your striving to create intended to be beneficial to "women and women alone"? The Left's idea that it can disguise its lust for money and power with "social justice" is misguided. Step away from the left just a little bit and you can see how transparent it all is.

by Anonymousreply 34December 11, 2018 12:45 AM

But what if I don't want to work at WalMart!

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by Anonymousreply 35December 11, 2018 12:49 AM

I don’t agree that prostitution is rape, but it’s also not a positive or uplifting thing like sjws claim it is now.

by Anonymousreply 36December 11, 2018 12:52 AM

Tell it to Pamela Harriman, Jackie Onassis et al......

by Anonymousreply 37December 11, 2018 12:55 AM

"What are you trying to get at? A basic income for all women and women alone? Is this wonderful "new" society your striving to create intended to be beneficial to "women and women alone"?"

Just as gay people have the right to advocate for themselves and only themselves, women have the right to advocate for themselves and only themselves. And isn't it funny how those are the only two groups who are CONSTANTLY badgered to "embrace intersectionality"? I don't see heterosexual, male Black Lives Matter activists being threatened with death and rape if they don't "include Indigenous people in their activism." I don't see heterosexual, male environmentalists being mobbed on Twitter and shunned socially for not "including feminism in their environmentalism." Gee, why is that?

by Anonymousreply 38December 11, 2018 1:16 AM

R38 exactly!

by Anonymousreply 39December 11, 2018 1:19 AM

What about a man's anus?

by Anonymousreply 40December 11, 2018 1:21 AM

In a perfect world, maybe, there would be no prostitution. But it no world should there ever be rape!

by Anonymousreply 41December 11, 2018 1:25 AM

^ But IN no*

by Anonymousreply 42December 11, 2018 1:47 AM

R22... tell me what was the root cause of the “patriarchal society”, please.

by Anonymousreply 43December 11, 2018 2:08 AM

Prostitution isn't paid rape, it's paid dehumanization, degradation, and economic exploitation.

Like most of the jobs available to the uneducated. She really is out of touch with the realities of modern life.

by Anonymousreply 44December 11, 2018 2:38 AM

R44, the same thing can be said about housekeeping and coal mining and working in factories while people in the upper class enjoy nice posh desk jobs.

by Anonymousreply 45December 11, 2018 3:04 AM

Prostitution will always pay better than a minimum-wage job, so there will always be women who choose it. As is their right. I think there are worse things to sell than your body. Like your soul, which is what every creative person who works for a corporation does.

by Anonymousreply 46December 11, 2018 3:17 AM

Shut down the "world's oldest profession"?

You realize that opposing something doesn't actually shut it down, right? Because if wishes were ponies, you'd be buried in horseshit even more than you already are.

"I'm sorry but you can't redefine an institution that's been with humanity from time immemorial, "

She isn't re-defining it. It's always been as she's described it. What you're actually saying is that you're incapable of agreeing with her. Just one of your many incapacities, I'm sure. Embrace your incapacities, dear. It'll cut down on your sex worker bills. You'll save a little money. Maybe retire somewhere nice. Maybe not get raped by some gerontophile at the state nursing home.

Although the nicer ones have them too. So you're actually paying someone to rape you if you think about it.

America, what a country!

by Anonymousreply 47December 11, 2018 3:33 AM

This coming from someone who appeared nude in how many films?

by Anonymousreply 48December 11, 2018 3:53 AM

Interesting. So, I guess Johns would get tried for rape. Prostitutes would be treated like rape victims. Could the hooker keep the money as a down payment for civil damages?

by Anonymousreply 49December 11, 2018 4:01 AM

[R47] You are very dumb and inarticulate and wholly unable to make any sort of counter-argument. You typify what people are objecting to. You think that your ephemeral (look up the word) notions equate to great movements. You don't think and you don't read and you make no serious point. I hope your are good looking as I was, otherwise. At least I'm smart.

by Anonymousreply 50December 11, 2018 4:56 AM

Good. That third wave "feminism" bullshit that proclaimed prostitution is just another version of sexual freedom was fucking crap, just like most of the other third wave "feminism" proclamations. Third wave feminists are to the feminist movement what trans are to the gay rights movement.

by Anonymousreply 51December 11, 2018 5:22 AM

This sounds like something Alyssa Milano would say. It figures that I sometimes get them confused.

by Anonymousreply 52December 11, 2018 5:32 AM

R48 That's when she was still young. She wouldn't be asked to appear nude now.

by Anonymousreply 53December 11, 2018 5:33 AM

One thing I respect about Pamela Anderson is that she owns up to her past and still celebrates sex whereas other former sex symbols turn bitter once they reach a certain age.

by Anonymousreply 54December 11, 2018 5:36 AM

R53 Actually there is a big market for that! Remember Kathy Griffin’s male assistant had all this hidden “Granny Porn”!

by Anonymousreply 55December 11, 2018 5:38 AM

This bitch.

Men and women can be prostitutes. It's taking choice away from people to ban prostitution.

I also wish every female celebrity would stop taking the easy path of doing something political around "female empowerment". Can't anyone just focus on the fucking homeless or something? Does it have to be battered female homeless? It seems like it's expected women MUST use their celebrity to help only other women, otherwise ???

by Anonymousreply 56December 11, 2018 5:41 AM

[R56] Very good point. I live in Los Angeles. There is a homeless crisis here in the HERE and NOW. This is the crisis by which you might be judged in the future, virtue-signaling Hollywood phonies. Do something about it and I might grow some respect for you. Don't preach to me. Do something.

by Anonymousreply 57December 11, 2018 5:50 AM

^All they ever look for with these antics is attention, taking a stance that actually requires them to do something would be too much for them.

by Anonymousreply 58December 11, 2018 6:18 AM

Adding that “cash is the proof of coercion” and that “buying sexual access commodifies … girls and women’s orifices.”

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by Anonymousreply 59December 11, 2018 6:44 AM

R45, prostitution is more dangerous than housekeeping and working in factors, and probably more than coal mining. It's especially dangerous for female whores, who are more likely to be enslaved or "trafficked", and who are alone with clients who are almost always bigger and stronger than they are. On the other hand, greeters at Wal-Mart are at risk of trampled during Black Friday brawls, but unlike independent sex workers they don't get paid enough to get their kids medical insurance.

I hate to use the right-wing term "limousine liberal", but that really does describe Judd. She's got no clue what crappy low-end jobs are like these days.

by Anonymousreply 60December 11, 2018 7:03 AM

Some people want to fuck for money. It’s what they choose to do, and the basis of that may be that they find the interactions interesting or the job easy or something they enjoy, or it may be because they were sexually traumatized and have an unhealthy relationship with sex and men. But women and men alike do fuck for money. Making it legal and regulating the service industry could make it safer and more healthful for individuals who do it and also help to protect public health. Making things like this and drugs illegal on moral grounds makes them more dangerous because crimes against sex workers or addicts are not reported for fear of being prosecuted, crimes are reported but victims are ignored/shamed/mocked etc. because of the illegal statuses of what they do, etc.

Some sex workers are literally enslaved, many are abused and live with past traumas, some may be mentally ill (as are people in every sector).

There’s no way to generalize the entire business as damaging or abusive or positive.

However, I really feel like there are fine lines that are always ignored and it drives me batty.

Prostitutes always are spoken of as objects of discussion, never as human beings who make their own choices. They choose to have sex for money in private.

Porn stars often are spoken *to* as human beings and are regarded as professionals and less likely in condescending, objectifying ways, even though they are prostituting in front of cameras. Why is that?

Nude models are regarded as something different. But they are exploiting their bodies for monetary gain.

People who do simulated sex in movies, nude but with a covering over their genitalia that audiences don’t see are respectable performance artists. Why are they more respectable if prostitutes are not? They’re getting naked and simulating sex for money. From a psychological standpoint, they are still exploiting and objectifying themselves ostensibly to get people off as a financial transaction.

And then there is the point of physical laborers who do not exchange sex for money, but who likewise exploit their physical bodies for money and have high-risk workplace hazards. If the concern for prostitutes really is their well being and not a puritanical view of sex, then why aren’t people like Judd also calling mining or construction work “slavery for money”? People who work with steel and concrete and glass or in mines are likely to be injured, they work longer hours than people with office jobs, they may have limited access to healthcare, etc. They’re trading their physical wellness for a paycheck. No one champions or defends them.

I don’t have a problem with people bringing attention to abuses of sex workers, etc., but I do think there’s a total blind spot to the hypocrisy of people who claim that their concerns are not about morality from a puritanical standpoint, and yet who couldn’t possibly accept that selling one’s body is an aspect of many different kinds of work that results in physical harm, and who couldn’t possibly accept that a woman who sells her body on Hollywood and Vine really is not that different from a woman who desperately sells her body on Instagram, addicted to and financially dependent on likes, or a woman who strips down and writhes around in a bed while 20 men stand around with boners and a couple track her naked breasts and ass with cameras in extreme close-up—and she wins an Oscar for being “vulnerable,” and meanwhile a half million men are blowing their loads to her DVD and *that* is what is generating profits for MGM and, yes, for her and her pimp/agent.

by Anonymousreply 61December 11, 2018 7:04 AM

[R61] You're hired, Darling!

by Anonymousreply 62December 11, 2018 7:16 AM

"Some people want to fuck for money."

To be precise, I don't think anyone actually wants to fuck for money. But quite a lot of people think that fucking for money is the best option available to them, in a world full of shitty options.

by Anonymousreply 63December 11, 2018 7:18 AM

So many people spanning all ages, including 76-year-old Joy Behar, have consistently supported Stormy Daniels and said that she “makes an honest living doing a job that is legal.” She goes to work, puts in her hours, and pays her family’s bills. It’s her choice to do it. I agree with the people who defend her integrity insofar as her choice of work—but seriously, what are the differences between being a porn star and a stripper, and being a prostitute?

Porn star: Has sex for money with other people who have sex for money. Recorded by a camera crew, marketed and sold to the public for masturbatory pleasure.

Stripper: Takes off clothes for money in front of strangers who may be able to touch the strippers to a certain limited capacity.

Prostitute: Has sex for money with people who pay for sex rather than also getting paid. Does not occur in front of a camera and is not marketed broadly to get others off in exchange for money.

Common assumptions seem to be:

—Sex on camera is less potentially risky than sex off camera

—When all parties who have sex are being paid, the transaction is...more professional (?)

—When the sex act is publicly commodified, then it is less shameful and instead “star” making

—Porn star (straight female) more conventionally attractive than many prostitutes

Are these all true and do they justify drawing such a clear division between porn (totally legit!) and prostitution (shameful!)?

Also, hello, huge elephant in the room: many if not most porn actors are also private prostitutes, although they are more likely to be called “escorts” than the people who pick up johns on the street. How is it that so many people have decided porn stars are professionals who exercise their personal agency, whereas prostitutes are either villains or victims (depending on your perspective)—when in many cases they are one and the same? At least when it comes to gay porn stars, they’re mostly whores. People on this site have posted countless links to “escort” (ahem, prostitution) sites that feature well-known career porn stars. Are they pros when there’s a camera in the room and dirty, shameful whores who get “raped for money” one on one without a camera? This is all so disingenuous.

by Anonymousreply 64December 11, 2018 7:26 AM

R63 Are you kidding? If not, then I think you are wrong and seriously underestimating people’s narcissism.

Look at all the Instagram “models” people dedicate threads to here. Almost all of them men showing off their bodies to gain attention and become “Instagram stars.” They do it primarily for the narcissistic payoff, but also have come to realize that they can make money from it if they gain enough followers. Men and women alike do it. And some or many of them make an easy and natural transition to sex on camera—because they get off on the attention. They just do. And for every Brent Corrigan who may regret it later and attempt to become a mainstream actor and have no way out, there’s a Billy Santoro who will keep fucking for money for as long as he can. And people like Dirk Caber who appears to have had a normal job of some sort for a decade or two before seemingly realizing his dream of making money by fucking on and off camera purely for narcissistic payoff.

I recall seeing endless threads about this young “Instagram star” that just kept coming no matter how often I blocked them. People asked in the threads I opened how soon before this guy became a porn star and then, lo and behold, he became a porn star after he gained a big enough audience. He was likely prostituting already, by choice, and he worked his way up the ranks like an entry-level employee would do by using his natural “talent” of narcissism to cultivate an audience, which he commodified.

This is generally celebrated as a highly prized American entrepreneurism, but the line is drawn at off-camera sex work. I just find it odd.

My grudge is just with the dishonesty and hypocrisy involved. I am a writer who studied language and writing formally and has spent 20 years cultivating my skill as anyone in any trade would do, and it’s a struggle to say the least to make a living doing something we are told is respectable and which society ostensibly appreciates. And yet, Ashley Judd and those here who agree with her condemn sex work and yet the numbers speak for themselves: a well-written and thoroghly researched essay may be read and shared, say, 10,000 times on the Internet and may garner maybe 150 social media followers for the writer—meanwhile, Alan Wemick posts an ass pic and picks up another 10k followers and message board threads dedicated to his being, and he in turn feels valued and seen and appreciated by the attention and accolades. And yet the public claims to celebrate professions and professionals who are “respectable” and to condemn or pity those that are not...and gives 50 times more of its attention to the ones who are condemnable and pitiable? It doesn’t add up. People are in denial about what they really care about.

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by Anonymousreply 65December 11, 2018 7:43 AM

Again, the advent and persistence of people like this demonstrate the hypocrisy of a society made of people who agree with Judd but then together create a system that disproves what she says in a practical sense.

Popular consensus: Prostitution is bad and harmful and not something we support.

Result of collective behavior: Over 600,000 followers on Instagram led to a porn scene for a studio (considered laudable among those here), to personal homemade sex videos for profit (considered lowbrow and pathetic here) and a prostitution career (considered condemnable here and yet followed by and likely patronized by some here). I learned about these “rent” sites from this website, DL, and I learned that porn stars are prostitites from this site, as well. There’s a lot of talking out of two sides of people’s faces among men at large, and among women, though probably to a lesser extent since women are less likely to spend cash for sex.

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by Anonymousreply 66December 11, 2018 8:07 AM

[quote] Remember Kathy Griffin’s male assistant had all this hidden “Granny Porn”!

I remember. And I wish he had kept it to himself.

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by Anonymousreply 67December 11, 2018 8:27 AM

R43, of course: male domination.

You’re welcome.

by Anonymousreply 68December 12, 2018 8:33 PM

Feminists are so chill and they never make obnoxious use of hyperbole. I love them.

by Anonymousreply 69December 12, 2018 8:49 PM

If you are a self-employed prostitute, it is just a job, like any other. You create (or hire it out) a website, promote yourself through various advertising streams, handle accounting (or pay someone to do it), and pay your taxes. Enough said.

by Anonymousreply 70December 12, 2018 9:00 PM

Aren't most of us hookers one way or another? Unless you work for yourself, if you're employed someone is using your mind/body as a commodity to make money for themselves. While I would be embarrassed to purchase a hooker, due to my own hangups and what, in my mind, purchasing a hooker would say about my secual desirability, I am the last person to stand in judgement of one.

by Anonymousreply 71December 12, 2018 9:21 PM

But why is prostitution still a thing? I know that straight men don't have grindr and other options for sex like gay men have. But why not just masturbate rather than pay to have sex with someone who doesn't really like you? Thinking of it that way, it does seem like rape.

by Anonymousreply 72December 12, 2018 9:44 PM

Yeah, it totally does, r72.

Begging the question: why is rape a thing?

Why do some guys like to do it?

by Anonymousreply 73December 12, 2018 9:56 PM

Steve) Oh please! You're mother pays for sailors

Marcie) She has to pay for them, they won't come to her for free.

by Anonymousreply 74December 12, 2018 9:57 PM

She can't keep a man so she has to stick her nose into other people's sex life. She is gonna be like Sarandon as she ages, another one driven nuts because her man left.

Whoring is dangerous but so is being a teacher these days, I support both.

by Anonymousreply 75December 12, 2018 10:08 PM

R75, do you have a daughter or a niece? Are you close to any young females?

Do you want them “whoring” as a career?

by Anonymousreply 76December 12, 2018 10:20 PM

Look at all the butthurt straight men in this thread, promoting right wing garbage and attacking the "LEFT". You're all pathetic.

TROLL. THREAD. CLOSED!!!!

by Anonymousreply 77December 12, 2018 10:50 PM

"I hate to use the right-wing term 'limousine liberal', but that really does describe Judd. She's got no clue what crappy low-end jobs are like these days."

Why are you presuming that these are the only two options in Judd's view? Isn't it possible that she wants to end prostitution AND minimum-wage slavery? I know I do, and I've had PLENTY of crappy, low-end jobs. Blame the corporate scum who drive desperate women into prostitution. Ashley Judd is not the problem here.

by Anonymousreply 78December 12, 2018 11:04 PM

"But why is prostitution still a thing? I know that straight men don't have grindr and other options for sex like gay men have. But why not just masturbate rather than pay to have sex with someone who doesn't really like you? "

After many years of observing straights, I think there are two main reasons that straight men use hookers instead of finding someone who'll fuck them for free:

1) To get someone younger or better looking than they could attract on their own merits.

2) To be in complete control of their encounter with a woman, from beginning to end. The fact that he's paying insures that the woman won't reject him, refuse sexual activities he wants, request activities that don't appeal to him, laugh at him, or act like her needs matter. For his money, the John not only gets a sex act, he gets a woman who will put up with his shit as long as they're together.

by Anonymousreply 79December 13, 2018 11:24 PM

“She can't keep a man so she has to stick her nose into other people's sex life”

That retarded “can’t keep a man” needs to go. And the people who use it.

by Anonymousreply 80December 13, 2018 11:29 PM

R80, Stevie Nicks is being inducted into the R'n'R Hall of Fame next year, is fabulously wealthy, has millions of fans all over the world, but on DL she's a pathetic loser because she "can't keep a man."

by Anonymousreply 81December 13, 2018 11:34 PM

aint ash 'taking away other womens agency' with that position?

its called the oldest profession in the world for a reason.

by Anonymousreply 82December 13, 2018 11:44 PM

“its called the oldest profession in the world for a reason”

It’s not a “profession”, it’s the abuse of women, girls and children for a few bucks, set up by men and for men.

by Anonymousreply 83December 14, 2018 12:27 AM

[R83] Delusional feminist garbage.

by Anonymousreply 84December 14, 2018 6:26 PM

Presumably, r84 is male & without a daughter, sister, mother, wife or any female friend at all.

by Anonymousreply 85December 14, 2018 11:26 PM

Fuck her, she is an asshole.

by Anonymousreply 86December 14, 2018 11:32 PM

“Delusional feminist garbage.”

Delusional male supremacist dreck.

by Anonymousreply 87December 14, 2018 11:35 PM
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