Have you ever been part of a harem of hotties for a gay guy/older sugardaddy or been the 1 who has a harem of guys around them?

Hoping for some hot tales on this thread !

Having lots of money helps

I thought everybody had done that.

My beautiful men can be seen on the Oprah Winfrey Network

I've kept half a dozen fuckbuddies but they didn't know each other so not really a harem.

You bitches WISH you had my harem

A big private swimming pool, a genial host and spare bedrooms would help me to be that Daddy.

So [R7] Is being a Daddy with a harem one of the ultimate fantasies for many gay men? Part of me gets more turned on by wishing I was younger and invited to be part of a harem!

Talk to Bryan Singer or Roland Emmerich

[R5] Do they know about each others existence eve n if they do not know each other or details about each other? They all understand the deal that they are one of many fuckbuddies?

Living for free is a fantasy for the party boys who like to freeload. I think the ultimate fantasy for those guys is to have a great deal of cash.

Yes. Allan Carr in the 70s.

Spill more details and anecdotes please if you feel comfortable to do so [R12]

I might be part of a harem if the guy would buy me a washer and dryer.

When I was around 22 I used to be invited to parties where an older man ( around 45, but looked older)had drugs and money and had many cute young men around him. He would usually try to get one of us high on meth so that we would get high and horny enough to let him blow us. This would happen in various expensive hotel rooms around Los Angeles and Anaheim. Although I was cute, I wasn't the cutest nor the most submissive so he would often get angry and kick me out, only to invite me back a couple of days later to a different party.Of course I would say yes as I loved meth, but eventually I stopped going and ( some years later) stopped using drugs. I would say that lifestyle is overrated and not worth it, since at the time none of us young men wanted to allow him to touch us. However, we all wanted money and drugs and alcohol and he knew that, so he felt used and disappointed and was always edgy. The best description of him would be an ugly ,bitter predator. It's much healthier to have a partner (even if he's not beautiful) whom you love and you can trust. Whenever I see older partnered men they look much happier and more attractive than lonely old men chasing twinks.

Funny you should mention this. I know of a harem with a very, very, VERY recent opening.

Would you be willing to grow into the position?

Thanks for sharing [R15] But do you concede or accept that there will be harem situations that are not as dark and bleak as the one you outlined and were drugs are not automatically part of the picture? That some may positively embrace the harem dynamic either as a young guy or the older guy and quite enjoy it for what it is?

Maybe [R16] Ooh Please do tell me more!

R17 I'm sure they exist but they are probably rare since maintaining a harem means that 1. You have a lot of money 2. You have a lot of influence to protect your privacy in case anyone finds out 3. You find young men that are pretty enough and desperate enough to give up their dignity for money. Finding a person to whom all this applies isn't easy to find . You'd probably have to be a harem in a third world country, since escorting in the US is technically still illegal and expensive. The most likely scenario for a real life harem with beautiful boys and no drugs would be for a multi millionaire in a country like Mexico, Romania , or Thailand. Perhaps there are agencies or prostitution rings in such countries that would find him beautiful, healthy, non-druggies and confidentiality for a hefty sum.

"The best description of him would be an ugly ,bitter predator."

But enough about Kevin Spacey!

I thought a lot of guys on the gay scene were quite open about having a harem? [R19] Certainly I have noticed this in the UK were some seem to embrace it as an eccentric choice but not neccesarily a negative one? Why do you think it is the case a young man in a harem lacks dignity?

[R20] You think Kevin Spacey had a harem?

A harem? That sounds like a lot of work, not to mention the expense.

All I want is two pliant houseboys. And I would settle for one.

Is that so much to ask?

R21 because NO young man wants to allow an older man to treat him like a sex slave among many sex slaves unless they lack self respect or they have daddy issues. The only exception would be if the older man was very hot, and that's rarely the case. You have to remember that in a harem situation you have to compete against the others for the older man's favor, and he will always have a favorite, who may or may not be you. And even if it is you, there's always the risk of someone prettier and younger that will come and upstage you. If you really think about it, the whole situation is fucked up. Trust me, I speak from experience. It's totally different from a group of young men getting together for an orgy as equals.

OP is Terry Miller

You think bitchy gay men are going to allow a harem to exist. They are still men and competition will win out. I think women could be cooler with the multiple women/wives thing than gay men who want to always win, but money can do anything. I can’t imagine any situation where a harem is mentally or psychologically healthy for anyone involved. But it’s a capitalist world and we all do what we need to do to survive.

I am not sure you can say NO young man [R24] would want it unless they lack self esteem .They may not be taking it to seriously ,have no desire for deep romance and just get turned on by the idea? It could all be a brief experience they come out of unscathed after trying it for a bit? What about being in a harem for one night?

R27 If it's a one time thing where they're just turned on by the idea then it's different. But if they stay in that situation then it's because they have no self respect, mental/emotional issues or because they don't have better opportunities, which isn't the case in the United States (knock on wood!). I can see it happening in a country like Venezuela, where young healthy men from healthy families and who aren't addicted to drugs would voluntarily place themselves and stay in such a grim situation due to the economy and lack of opportunities.

Please. We prefer the term "seraglio."

From out of the ask you'll watch a jewel who fled a hareem in Istanbul!

I'd have thought the opposite [R26] that females were much more likely to find harems to be problematic?

Here you go, R18.

OP's talking about a noodles & beef type harem, where everyone is there because they want to be in a polyamorous group relationship, as opposed to a Bryan Singer type harem where the boys are hanging around for drugs, money, opportunities, or all of the above. Can't say either appeal to me.

Oops, just re-read OP and he's clearly talking about group prostitution harems. I don't find the thought of making myself available to a rich old perv, in exchange for cash or drugs, arousing.

Are Daniel miller and Matthew Crawford still part of Bryan singers ‘harem’? How? They’re getting a little long in the tooth for him.

I would find it depressing, from any angle.

Correct [R33]

[R21] because NO young man wants to allow an older man to treat him like a sex slave among many sex slaves unless they lack self respect or they have daddy issues.

Gurl bye. Im still living off harem money

Well, we learned this week Hart Bochner was a yacht boy for Barry Diller.

[quote]I'm sure they exist but they are probably rare since maintaining a harem means that 1. You have a lot of money.

Usually but not necessarily. I once got hit on by a guy on A4A who was a dom looking for subs for his "harem." His proposal was that I would be one of his group and that I would turn over all of my money and assets to him and that I would continue working and deliver my paychecks directly to his account. In this scenario, with enough gullible harem members, the owner of the harem wouldn't need all that much money of his own.

His was the reverse scenario: a younger dom/top looking for older subs/bottoms. Based on the pics in his profile, he had already found a couple of gullible folks but I guess they weren't bringing in enough money so he was looking to expand. Personally, I found the whole thing to be hilarious, since my profile handle at the time was "TopBearDad," which meant that he had [italic]really[/italic] missed the mark when he approached me.

Lucky bitches

What a strange reversal of the usual situation [R40]

[quote] [[R5]] Do they know about each others existence eve n if they do not know each other or details about each other? They all understand the deal that they are one of many fuckbuddies?

R10 They don't know about each other.

Thanks for replying [R43]

I was offered a job, a green card, a driver, quality coke, apartment in LA etc by someone who worked in Hollywood, behind the camera. I was in good shape and he had a thing about my English accent. This was early 90s. Had no interest. Not my thing. Of course I wasn’t the only person offered that. Not even that week I would imagine.

Sometime after I grew friendly with someone in that world and who was burning out and he confirmed everything I imagined.

Dodged a bullet.

The late Sandy Gallin had a harem

[R46] I wonder which other male celebrities /famous men have had harems of young men? Kevin Spacey? Henry Cavill?

Spacey for sure

Revolta probably has a harem stashed away somewhere

I would have loved to have been part of one for a short time--like a weekend--if I was younger.

Me too [R49] pun intended!

All male celebrities have harems of young men.

How would you go about putting together a harem if you decided you wanted one?

I agree with a lot of the posters. There may be short term arrangements but nothing like we think of with a gay Sultan of Brunei exists at least not in the First World.

[quote] The most likely scenario for a real life harem with beautiful boys and no drugs would be for a multi millionaire in a country like Mexico, Romania , or Thailand.

Have you ever been to Romania, R19? I highly doubt anything like that would catch on there. The young guys there tend to be have a big macho, somewhat homophobic culture and, if desperate for $, would probably rather engage in macho-style criminal activity (car theft, selling drugs, etc) than sign up to be part of a submissive gay harem ring.

The more likely scenario is that the money-chasing guys there would rather traffic young females for some harem client rather than traffic themselves. Or the guys might ‘pose’ as willing participants of a harem themselves, as part of a con - and then collectively rob, assault or blackmail the harem host. Because, in their macho alpha culture, there are far easier ways for guys to make huge bank then being a submissive harem stud waiting for a paycheck.

*than being

[quote] You'd probably have to be a harem in a third world country, since escorting in the US is technically still illegal and expensive.

[quote] But if they stay in that situation then it's because they have no self respect, mental/emotional issues or because they don't have better opportunities, which isn't the case in the United States (knock on wood!). I can see it happening in a country like Venezuela, where young healthy men from healthy families and who aren't addicted to drugs would voluntarily place themselves and stay in such a grim situation due to the economy and lack of opportunities.

[quote] There may be short term arrangements but nothing like we think of with a gay Sultan of Brunei exists at least not in the First World.

No need to go abroad, R19 / R28 and R53. There are plenty of harem situations in the US and the Occident, let’s not be naïve. They might not be called that publicly, but that’s what they really are in practice. The people who engage in it don’t care that it might technically be classified as long-term group prostitution, they still go for it. And not because they have “issues” - but because they’re regular opportunists. Most of us will never own a yacht or a private jet or even a multi-million beach house with an infinity pool - so obviously these guys go for rare opportunities that they know full well they’ll never achieve on their own, with their limited background and limited talent.

The way to get around any illegal escorting questions about a harem is to front it as a porn stable (which is fully legal). So nowadays any older guy who wants to have a harem simply starts a porn house. A porn stable is basically a modern-day, 21st Century harem. A porn producer often houses several young guys under one roof in some McMansion. While there are some peripheral short-term guys who rotate, the porn ‘Sultan’ keeps a few chosen ones (for many years, i.e. a long-term arrangement) who are his personal faves and who he regularly fucks. He often selects a ‘head boy’ who initiates the others and keeps everyone in line. One example is Gibson, CEO of Corbin Fisher: he apparently kept Kellan as head boy for many years and had a few selected ones he kept close to himself.

There are also situations like Don Burns’ harem, which he allegedly shared with Geffen. He kept a chosen roster, selected a head boy (Justin Griggs), had his faves.

And then there are more classy harems like Karl Lagerfeld’s. He calls them his domestic “muses” but that’s a bit of a euphemism. He apparently juggles Brad Kroenig and Baptiste Giabiconi in a parallel very long-term arrangement and drags them around the world on his jet as quasi-family.