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I can't name a single Aretha Franklin song

Please tell me I'm not the only one. But in my defense, I am a Euro millennial.

by Anonymousreply 153September 4, 2018 6:05 AM

Your loss.

by Anonymousreply 1August 17, 2018 8:41 PM

Cool story - what’s your point?

by Anonymousreply 2August 17, 2018 8:44 PM

There was something about respecting a pink Cadillac

by Anonymousreply 3August 17, 2018 8:49 PM

OP, you are completely uncultured. I'm Euro too, just a little bit older than you, and can probably name half a dozen songs at least - are you trolling??? Is nothing sacred anymore??

by Anonymousreply 4August 17, 2018 8:53 PM

If you're trolling, go fuck yourself.

If you're not trolling, go fuck yourself.

by Anonymousreply 5August 17, 2018 9:43 PM

That's quite alright, OP. By contrast, I must say that I can't name a single Ariana Grande or Demi (addict chick can't think of last name) song.

by Anonymousreply 6August 17, 2018 9:50 PM

I know about 12 of her songs from the 60s and 80s but was shocked to discover she had 112 charted hits.

by Anonymousreply 7August 17, 2018 9:53 PM

R7 I think that's more than most people know to be honest. None of the tributes last night showcased her string of 80s singles like Freeway of Love, Who's Zooming Who, Pink Cadillac, and I Knew You Were Waiting For Me.

by Anonymousreply 8August 17, 2018 9:56 PM

To be fair, Aretha was never big outside the US. She was rather local.

by Anonymousreply 9August 17, 2018 9:59 PM

You’re not cute, OP. Saying shit like this only makes you sound like an asshole.

by Anonymousreply 10August 17, 2018 10:08 PM

R8 Until she died I forgot she did have hits in my lifetime. I like Freeway of Love, Sisters Are Doin' It for Themselves with Eurythmics, and Who's Zoomin' Who? but hadn't thought of those songs in years.

by Anonymousreply 11August 17, 2018 10:11 PM

[quote]To be fair, Aretha was never big outside the US. She was rather local.

Not true, she was big in France.

by Anonymousreply 12August 17, 2018 10:13 PM

She’s overrated.

by Anonymousreply 13August 17, 2018 10:17 PM

They are both dead now. :-(

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by Anonymousreply 14August 17, 2018 10:20 PM

Respect

Take Me Back (aka “Baby, baby, sweet baby”)

Think

Natural Woman

The House That Jack Built

I Say a Little Prayer

Chain of Fools

Rock Steady

Until You Come Back to Me

Spanish Harlem

She was a gospel singer and did albums of a gospel songs that sold very well in African American communities

by Anonymousreply 15August 17, 2018 10:31 PM

I imagine soul, blues, country...music aren't very popular in Europe. They have their own local music genres there.

by Anonymousreply 16August 17, 2018 10:33 PM

Yes. Yodeling, Gregorian chants, opera, accordion opuses...

by Anonymousreply 17August 17, 2018 10:40 PM

They have their own way of interpreting American music over there.

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by Anonymousreply 18August 17, 2018 10:41 PM

OP just die in a grease fire. You have no cultural taste. Take your EDM, comic book movies, and starbucks and just go.

by Anonymousreply 19August 17, 2018 10:43 PM

Which country are you from, OP?

by Anonymousreply 20August 17, 2018 10:45 PM

Her music sucked, her voice was nails on chalkboard...

by Anonymousreply 21August 17, 2018 10:45 PM

Laugh all you want, but Audrey Landers was more popular in Europe than Aretha ever was. General European population isn't exactly known for having good music taste (but then again, the same could be said for uneducated masses all around the world).

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by Anonymousreply 22August 17, 2018 10:46 PM

Then why waste time posting on DL? Just start educating your pitiful self.

by Anonymousreply 23August 17, 2018 10:46 PM

I attended a Whitney Houston concert in the 90s in Germany and when she started to do her gospel section of the show the whole audience was transfixed and mesmerized.

I am sure a lot of Euros are familiar with black music and of course Aretha was an international icon.

by Anonymousreply 24August 17, 2018 10:51 PM

Well, OP, you could watch [italic]the Blues Brothers[/italic]. She sings "You Better Think" in that, and you'll see other U.S. music legends. And "Respect" is an anthem for many American women. It's worth a listen, just for the cultural significance of the song.

by Anonymousreply 25August 17, 2018 10:52 PM

I can't speak for Europe but in Latin America everyone knows at least Respect and Say a Little Prayer those are staples you dance to at any graduation or wedding party.

by Anonymousreply 26August 17, 2018 10:57 PM

That's OK. Most North American millennnials don't know or care who George Michael is/was.

by Anonymousreply 27August 17, 2018 11:03 PM

Why doesn't DL hate George Michael? You hate everyone else who's gay, famous, successful, etc.

by Anonymousreply 28August 17, 2018 11:05 PM

George Michael is almost totally forgotten in North America. He was barely more than a joke novelty act here at his height of fame. Then of course, the pervert in the toilet.

by Anonymousreply 29August 17, 2018 11:09 PM

Are you from Yugoslavia OP? They love mariachi music in Yugoslavia.

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by Anonymousreply 30August 17, 2018 11:11 PM

She wasn't just big in France, lol.

by Anonymousreply 31August 17, 2018 11:19 PM

[quote]Say a Little Prayer

That was MY song!

by Anonymousreply 32August 17, 2018 11:22 PM

[quote] But in my defense, I am a Euro millennial.

No, you're not.

by Anonymousreply 33August 17, 2018 11:34 PM

Here you go, OP. Now you know.

Say a Little Prayer is my favorite. It was featured in the movie “My Best Friend’s Wedding”, incidentally.

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by Anonymousreply 34August 17, 2018 11:39 PM

R12 is lying.

by Anonymousreply 35August 17, 2018 11:57 PM

A lot of Americans only know Aretha from the Blues Brothers. I’m not crazy about this version of Think, because it’s a little too fast. But it’s how a lot of little kids watching the movie on TV in the 90s heard about her

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by Anonymousreply 36August 18, 2018 12:02 AM

She was the best part of that terrible movie.

by Anonymousreply 37August 18, 2018 12:08 AM

OP- educate yourself- she was one of the greatest singers who ever lived. She came out of gospel but put her mark on anything she chose to sing. “Hits” have little to do with it- he had many, but like all great singers- if you beyond the “hits” you’ll find their great gifts and art.

by Anonymousreply 38August 18, 2018 12:27 AM

My Aretha songs:

I Never Loved a Man

Respect

A Natural Woman

Chain of Fools

Think

The House That Jack Built

I Say a Little Prayer

and then nothing more until the "Who's Zoomin' Who" album, which was my favorite.

by Anonymousreply 39August 18, 2018 12:46 AM

This thread proves yet again that the 80's was the best decade for music. Even legends like Aretha and Tina Turner released their best stuff during this period.

by Anonymousreply 40August 18, 2018 1:06 AM

Let's be honest, if you take away "Respect", most people couldn't name a single Franklin song. Kind of like Otis Redding and "Dock Of The Bay". Way, way overrated.

by Anonymousreply 41August 18, 2018 1:15 AM

[quote]Yet in a surprising turn of events on the ITV programme Glynn then shared a heartwarming memory of the moment Aretha met Queen Elizabeth, the Queen Mother, when some royal etiquette was breached.

[quote]Responding to Ranvir’s comments about Aretha rising to the top of fame, Glynn said: “Yeah she did, but one of my favourite stories took place in Britain when she sang for the Queen Mother.” Enjoying the memory, Ranvir asked if the moment “meant a lot to her”, eager to hear more. “It meant a lot to her [yes], and all of us. The great [singer] Sammy Davis Jr introduced her to the Queen Mother in a way that was spectacular and I never forgot it. “As gracious as the Queen Mother was, you know, Princess Diana was there and Prince Charles, Sammy suddenly said: “But we also have royalty in America.” Smiling at the recollection of the moment, Glynn continued: “[He said] ‘We have the Duke of Ellington, the Count of Bassey, and ladies and gentlemen I bring you the queen of soul.”

Her ex-husband, Glynn Turner, shared a cute story about her meeting the Queen Mother. Anyway, OP, this is a good time to make up for lost time and familiarize yourself with her work.

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by Anonymousreply 42August 18, 2018 1:34 AM

No r9, you know better than that...Miss Franklin enjoyed worldwide popularity.

by Anonymousreply 43August 18, 2018 1:35 AM

[quote]"I Say a Little Prayer" is a song written by Burt Bacharach and Hal David for [bold]Dionne Warwick[/bold], originally peaking at number four on the U.S. Billboard Hot 100 pop singles chart in December 1967

MY version was 1967. Ree copied me in 1968

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by Anonymousreply 44August 18, 2018 1:40 AM

What the actual fuck r40? Aretha released her best stuff in the 60's (Respect, Say A LIttle Prayer, Chain of Fools, Natural Woman etc.)

Her 80's stuff was fluff.

by Anonymousreply 45August 18, 2018 1:41 AM

Picture it, Fall of '68. A young boy's ears perk up by a sweet, soulful voice proclaiming to God and man to pray while applying make-up. Yes, I had heard an earlier version by another lady and it was good too. But this version always takes me back to roaming around a huge dilapidated Victorian house in Southern California, enjoying a the bouncing piano. Thank You, Aretha for doing what you did best. You trained my ears to expect more.

R45, I would agree with you.

by Anonymousreply 46August 18, 2018 2:03 AM

Aretha Franklin might have the most iconic signature songs of any female artist ever. Respect, Think, Natural Woman. All of those are standards. She might not have been big in Europe but her music certainly was.

by Anonymousreply 47August 18, 2018 2:09 AM

Another song NOBODY heard of but me.

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by Anonymousreply 48August 18, 2018 4:36 AM

Scandal did a lot to bring Aretha to me in the 21st century, including this S&G cover. Thanks, Eli's record collection.

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by Anonymousreply 49August 18, 2018 4:41 AM

From the era of AIDS, AA, and aerobics.

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by Anonymousreply 50August 18, 2018 4:43 AM

R47 those songs suck 60’s music was awful compared to the decades the came after.

by Anonymousreply 51August 18, 2018 4:53 AM

r51 taste-impaired moron

by Anonymousreply 52August 18, 2018 4:54 AM

OP=stupid, ill educated

by Anonymousreply 53August 18, 2018 4:57 AM

Morning, y'all - OP here. I listened to some of her most viewed songs on youtube just now. Of course I know them all, since they were used in so many films and commercials, I just had no idea they were sung by Franklin. But still, that music is not my cup of tea (though I'm not sure if it's the music itself or the fact that it's been overplayed to death that bothers me). And yeah, I think most Europeans are familiar with those hits, but few could probably name the actual singer.

And to those idiots who think I'm ill educated: I hate to brag about it, but I am almost too cultured and well-read for a millennial - my all time favorite singer is Judee Sill, my favorite film is Z by Costa Gavras and I'm not happy if I don't get to listen to some Rimsky-Korsakov everyday when I get home, to relax a bit. Please tell me how many people under the age of 30 even know who any of those people are. Franklin just happened to slip under my radar, that's all, but I'm glad I'm now able to connect those songs to a name. But I can't say I missed much by not knowing her songs - call me a snob, but I prefer my music to be a a bit more obscure. It's a lot more fun to track down unknown artists than to listen to the same tired shit that's played on the radio all the time.

by Anonymousreply 54August 18, 2018 5:14 AM

I’m a millennial, and I could not recall any of her songs either. Of course, when I looked them up recognized a few of them.

by Anonymousreply 55August 18, 2018 5:21 AM

But where do you live OP?

by Anonymousreply 56August 18, 2018 5:22 AM

Aretha is very popular in Europe as is all American icons. Any artist will say that making it big in the US is the biggest feat a person can do, so to say that she's not heard in Europe is not a big deal IF it were true. Since, it isn't I'll leave it alone.

by Anonymousreply 57August 18, 2018 9:14 AM

She was ‘big’ everywhere

by Anonymousreply 58August 18, 2018 4:26 PM

Extremely overrated.

by Anonymousreply 59August 18, 2018 4:35 PM

R52 not everyone will like your favorite boring 50 year old music Memaw Mary!

by Anonymousreply 60August 18, 2018 6:45 PM

I’m a millennial and I only listen to opera and classical music. I have no time for rock, soul, disco crap from the “swinging 60s” which were not “swinging” at all. Plus, Aretha Franklin is American black lady which is ok, but really provincial to the rest of the world. We look beyond such local phenomena and look at the big picture in music. Nothing compares to 1812 Overture or Scheherazade. Learn to look beyond america, Americans! You could learn something

by Anonymousreply 61August 18, 2018 7:01 PM

I'm European too and apart from 'Respect' she wasn't famous here at all.

by Anonymousreply 62August 18, 2018 7:18 PM

I like a wide variety of music genres. During my workday, I listen to classical music all day. Of popular music, I tend to like music from the 60s - 90s, including R&B. Soul music is a native American genre that comes from black churches. And, of that genre, Aretha Franklin was widely acknowledged as the master. She certainly wasn't treated with kid gloves when she was alive: she was often lampooned for her bizarre, inane comments, fashion sense, crazy wigs, etc. There were Brits from the 60s on who were influenced by soul music, but there's a difference between being influenced, and fully being part of the genre. I'm an American who enjoys soul music, since it's something I've always known, but that doesn't mean I don't enjoy a wide range of other types of music, from all over the world.

by Anonymousreply 63August 18, 2018 7:31 PM

Aretha Franklin - I say a little prayer

Whose version do you prefer: Aretha or Dionne? Listen to Dionne's next post.)

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by Anonymousreply 64August 18, 2018 7:58 PM

Dionne Warwick - I Say A Little Prayer 1967 Original Million Seller

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by Anonymousreply 65August 18, 2018 8:00 PM

R65 The Diana King version from the 90s was the first version of the song I heard and it's still my favorite.

by Anonymousreply 66August 18, 2018 8:11 PM

I don't care if anyone outside the U.S. heard a note of any of her songs. That detracts not one little bit from her greatness. Van Gogh was great even when no one knew who he was.

by Anonymousreply 67August 18, 2018 9:37 PM

Aretha was afraid to fly, so she didn't tour very much outside the U.S., thus her popularity outside the U.S. was more limited.

by Anonymousreply 68August 18, 2018 9:41 PM

Hated most of her overrated wailing. The only song she did which I liked was "Until You Come Back To Me".

by Anonymousreply 69August 19, 2018 1:13 AM

R69 amen!!! Her ilk ,jenniffer holiday /jennifer hudson etc are loud noise to me , so very unappealing.

by Anonymousreply 70August 19, 2018 1:51 AM

My mother and father loved Nat King Cole and allowed my sister (younger than me by a few years) to watch Diana Ross on television, but this woman was just too much.

by Anonymousreply 71August 19, 2018 2:00 AM

Judee Sill has a nasally singing voice and only songs decent when she's double tracked.

Most of her songs are double tracked.

by Anonymousreply 72August 19, 2018 2:09 AM

[quote]I don't care if anyone outside the U.S. heard a note of any of her songs. That detracts not one little bit from her greatness. Van Gogh was great even when no one knew who he was.

Perfectly stated!

by Anonymousreply 73August 19, 2018 7:08 AM

[quote]Hated most of her overrated wailing. The only song she did which I liked was "Until You Come Back To Me".

You need to hear her Columbia recordings. It seems to be more of your speed.

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by Anonymousreply 74August 19, 2018 7:12 AM

Those morons calling Aretha overrated, then who was better? Unless you were purposefully being assholes.

by Anonymousreply 75August 19, 2018 7:29 AM

There is no one better than the Queen, and that's why her parting made headlines.

by Anonymousreply 76August 19, 2018 7:31 AM

And... that's why they drew a blank when it came to listing anyone better than Aretha.

by Anonymousreply 77August 19, 2018 7:32 AM

Sucks to be you.

by Anonymousreply 78August 19, 2018 7:36 AM

R61 - I am very smart and above such hoi polloi. Pretentious twat.

by Anonymousreply 79August 19, 2018 7:40 AM

Yeah, R61) is missing out. I should know, because I love all types of music, and I wouldn't deprive myself of the stuff.

by Anonymousreply 80August 19, 2018 7:44 AM

Besides her voice, I appreciated her love of furs. She wore a fabulous collection, one of a kind. Not fake, the real deal, just like ber voice.

by Anonymousreply 81August 19, 2018 8:15 AM

Furs. Now there's a reason to admire a singer.

by Anonymousreply 82August 19, 2018 8:54 AM

Here's an English tabloid of Aretha's passing for the people who claim she wasn't known in Europe. I think once a person hits tabloid status, then they are celeb.

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by Anonymousreply 83August 19, 2018 9:44 AM

I doubt my mother would know any Aretha songs - she's in her 80's and watches Lawrence Welk reruns. She is a sweetie and I'm sure OP has his good qualities as well !!

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by Anonymousreply 84August 19, 2018 10:15 AM

What convinced you that was worth posting, r84?

by Anonymousreply 85August 19, 2018 10:16 AM

r85 = OP

by Anonymousreply 86August 19, 2018 10:24 AM

Except no, r86.

by Anonymousreply 87August 19, 2018 10:26 AM

That's okay, OP. Lots of us in the U.S. aren't familiar with most Eurotrash musical garbage.

by Anonymousreply 88August 19, 2018 10:27 AM

Okay then - just another bitter queen ...

by Anonymousreply 89August 19, 2018 10:27 AM

I'm an older gay and Aretha was so much a part of the music scene when I was younger. She was a gigantic talent and had so much social relevance. Time marches on but I think history will be kind to Aretha Franklin.

by Anonymousreply 90August 19, 2018 10:37 AM

Who needs Aretha Franklin when you have DJ Ötzi?!

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by Anonymousreply 91August 19, 2018 10:40 AM

r91 - he has a nice personality. Does he do porn ??

by Anonymousreply 92August 19, 2018 10:43 AM

[quote]I appreciated her love of furs. She wore a fabulous collection, one of a kind. Not fake, the real deal, just like ber voice.

She was an animal killer.

by Anonymousreply 93August 19, 2018 2:16 PM

F&F for OP this thread seems full of racist trolls who wandered over from Breitbart.

by Anonymousreply 94August 19, 2018 2:26 PM

Your loss, this is why euros are also kind of stupid, just like Americans

by Anonymousreply 95August 19, 2018 2:45 PM

R94 Go take your race baiting elsewhere. There are lots of people who don't bother listening to older music. It might mean they are ignorant about different forms of music or are lacking taste, but it doesn't necessarily mean they are racist.

by Anonymousreply 96August 19, 2018 2:46 PM

fR93 - Diana Ross stopped wearing REAL animal fur decades ago. Her daughters protested and made her become aware at the atrocities associated with the production of TRUE animal fur apparel.

"When you know better, you do better." - Oprah (I can't stand Oprah, but she's right)

by Anonymousreply 97August 19, 2018 4:34 PM

R97, I must have blocked R93 at some point, but the fur business with AF I found problematic. No excuse for that unless you're an Inuit. And I loved her singing.

by Anonymousreply 98August 19, 2018 7:22 PM

I always enjoyed Beverly Sills. She was a favorite of my father’s, too. Ethel Merman was VERY exciting to me. Barbra Streisand was good, too, until the ‘70s.

by Anonymousreply 99August 19, 2018 8:00 PM

What is wrong with furs? They are VERY elegant. My mother used to wear them. And fur-lined hats. Very chic.

by Anonymousreply 100August 19, 2018 8:24 PM

Did peta hate this old bitch?

by Anonymousreply 101August 19, 2018 8:26 PM

I don’t think this Franklin woman would’ve been wearing real furs anyway. They’re very expensive.

by Anonymousreply 102August 19, 2018 8:28 PM

R100 - the animals are skinned ALIVE

by Anonymousreply 103August 19, 2018 9:54 PM

Im sorry but there is no excuse for any popular singer or entertainer to be rocking furs. Call me a SJW all you want, but its unethical and downright cruel to kill animals for clothing. Food consumption is one thing, though I tend to struggle with the morality of that as well.

by Anonymousreply 104August 19, 2018 10:02 PM

OP, if you are younger than 40 you may not have a clue. Youtube is your friend.

by Anonymousreply 105August 19, 2018 11:02 PM

[quote] Aretha was afraid to fly, so she didn't tour very much outside the U.S., thus her popularity outside the U.S. was more limited.

Every time a mega successful black celeb is mentioned here. Invariably the not big in Europe will follow. Which is very interesting considering the influence that black music had had all over the globe. English rock & roll legends, like the Beetles & The Rolling Stones were influenced by obscure blues artists; who certainly never travelled to Europe and never even sold millions of records in the US. But we’re supposed to believe that no one in Europe knows the black pop culture icons who do sell millions of records (eg Aretha Franklin, Beyoncé).

by Anonymousreply 106August 19, 2018 11:59 PM

[quote] Im sorry but there is no excuse for any popular singer or entertainer to be rocking furs. Call me a SJW all you want, but its unethical and downright cruel to kill animals for clothing. Food consumption is one thing, though I tend to struggle with the morality of that as well.

You’re entitled to your ideas about “morality” and so is everyone else. You don’t have the right to compromise the freedom of others, with your ideas.

by Anonymousreply 107August 20, 2018 12:02 AM

R103, that simply isn’t true.

We’ve been using animals for clothing for thousands and thousands of years!

by Anonymousreply 108August 20, 2018 12:06 AM

Exactly R106.

[quote] The concert was filmed at the New Temple Missionary Church in Los Angeles with a few cameramen, capturing the energy, the ’70s garb, and Mick Jagger rocking out to Franklin’s powerhouse pipes. (You can spot Jagger—a huge Franklin fan who signed with Atlantic Records in part because they had the Queen of Soul—at 1:57.)

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by Anonymousreply 109August 20, 2018 12:45 AM

R108 humans were used for slavery for thousands of years also

by Anonymousreply 110August 20, 2018 12:46 AM

So I guess R104 doesn't eat poultry or beef either?

by Anonymousreply 111August 20, 2018 12:59 AM

Are all millennials just as dumb as the OP?

by Anonymousreply 112August 20, 2018 1:09 AM

She had a big hit with A D U L A T E

by Anonymousreply 113August 20, 2018 1:12 AM

r106, the BEATLES were more influenced by early R&B and early rock and roll done by black artists rather than the blues. In addition to the early white rock and roll artists that influenced them as well.

The Rolling Stones were more influenced by the blues.

by Anonymousreply 114August 20, 2018 1:19 AM

You can listen to her music on Spotify it's free

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by Anonymousreply 115August 20, 2018 1:22 AM

R107, no one's freedom is being compromised by that statement, fuckhead.

by Anonymousreply 116August 20, 2018 1:27 AM

r41, are you kidding "Try a little tenderness" is my Otis redding song

by Anonymousreply 117August 20, 2018 1:46 AM

I've been to Europe a lot, and the first time I went, I heard someone BLASTING rap in the post side of London. Then, I heard soul music, and I even heard Sam Cooke played in Morocco.

by Anonymousreply 118August 20, 2018 6:15 AM

Here are 20 to start with. The NYT would like to hear from you:

[quote]We want to hear from you. Tell us how Aretha Franklin's music influenced you.

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by Anonymousreply 119August 20, 2018 12:26 PM

But r109, that concert never was released, was it? I heard Aretha herself kept it out of circ. I hope I'm wrong!!

by Anonymousreply 120August 20, 2018 1:42 PM

[quote]There are lots of people who don't bother listening to older music.

They aren’t necessarily racist, but they are stupid

by Anonymousreply 121August 20, 2018 1:59 PM

Not listening to older music has nothing to do with racism.

Listening to older music has nothing to do with racism.

Not everything is a racism-related event.

by Anonymousreply 122August 20, 2018 2:01 PM

None of these best of or favorite Aretha songs ever seems to include my favorite. So here's my contribution to OP's musical education.

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by Anonymousreply 123August 20, 2018 2:03 PM

Indeed, r123. How'd they skip that one?

by Anonymousreply 124August 20, 2018 2:13 PM

Walk on By?

by Anonymousreply 125August 20, 2018 2:56 PM

“Chain Of Fools” is one of the best contemporary songs ever...

by Anonymousreply 126August 20, 2018 3:10 PM

You make me feel like cis/trans/non-binary woman....

by Anonymousreply 127August 20, 2018 3:32 PM

I LOVE Oh Me Oh My.

by Anonymousreply 128August 20, 2018 4:46 PM

You Make Me Feel Like A “NATURAL” Woman??

How can this song be interpreted as anything other than TRANSPHOBIC??!

by Anonymousreply 129August 20, 2018 5:08 PM

idiot.

by Anonymousreply 130August 20, 2018 5:19 PM

Where I work not a single person under 35 could name one of her songs. Which is about right considering her last hit was in the mid 80s.

by Anonymousreply 131August 20, 2018 5:34 PM

Wait, Miss OP

*looks in bag*

No, sorry. I don't have a single fuck to give you.

by Anonymousreply 132August 20, 2018 5:36 PM

"last hit was in the mid 80s..."

R131 In that case, they probably weren't familiar with Puccini's greatest hits.

by Anonymousreply 133August 21, 2018 1:08 AM

[quote] Where I work not a single person under 35 could name one of her songs. Which is about right considering her last hit was in the mid 80s.

A Rose Is Still a Rose" is a 1998 single written and produced by Lauryn Hill and recorded and released by singer Aretha Franklin off the album of the same name. Written by Hill for Franklin, the song is feminist-based, focused on a motherly figure giving advice to a younger woman who keeps getting into bad relationships. Throughout the song, Franklin advises that in spite of everything and despite the woman's "scorned roses and thorn crowns" that the woman is "still a rose". Elements of the song "What I Am" by Edie Brickell and the New Bohemians were sung throughout the song by Hill herself. The video features Franklin, Hill and other female R&B singers such as Faith Evans, Changing Faces, and Amel Larrieux and featured Elise Neal in the video as the protagonist. Released in 1998, the song became a surprise hit for Franklin, 40-plus years into her career, reaching number 26 on the Billboard Hot 100 and number-five on the Hot R&B/Hip-Hop Songs chart while also reaching the UK top 40. The song helped its parent album reach gold status and remains one of Franklin's most played songs from her later years. The song was Aretha Franklin's last Top 40 hit.

You’re seroously arguing that most or all people younger than 35 only know hit music from the last what 20 yrs. So there’s an never ending list of artists whom they don’t know. Despite the cultural impact of these artists; and despite them still being played on radio, performing on tour and on television and being featured in publications.

by Anonymousreply 134August 21, 2018 1:24 AM

r131, I'm pretty sure they've heard Respect or Think even if they don't know she sings them. Yall have to remember the Queen of Soul was in her prime before the music video era.

by Anonymousreply 135August 21, 2018 1:36 AM

Remember when people didn't proudly proclaim their ignorance?

by Anonymousreply 136August 21, 2018 1:39 AM

[quote] [R131], I'm pretty sure they've heard Respect or Think even if they don't know she sings them. Yall have to remember the Queen of Soul was in her prime before the music video era.

So were any number of entertainers whose careers started prior to the 1980s. So again there must be an enormous list of pop culture icons who the 34yr old or younger crowd don’t know. I can’t imagine a reality where nothing happened before 2000 and particularly for people who grew up in a world with the internet.

by Anonymousreply 137August 21, 2018 2:29 AM

Young Aretha could literally sing the telephone book. It's probably where that phrase came from, because it's easier for me to name songs I don't like than to name an Aretha favorite. There are too many songs that I like. As a result, I bought her whole Columbia catalog and of course, I have her other stuff.

by Anonymousreply 138August 21, 2018 6:37 AM

Her Columbia years were great. I love her as a pure pop singer.

by Anonymousreply 139August 21, 2018 8:47 PM

[quote]the animals are skinned ALIVE

More bullshit propaganda from PETA-nuts. The animals are euthanized.

I used to laugh my ass off at the idiot celebrities who jumped on bandwagon when PETA was a [italic]cause célèbre[/italic]. They'd show up at PETA rallies in leather shoes, belts, jackets, even pants - blissfully unaware of their hypocrisy and foolishness.

[quote]its unethical and downright cruel to kill animals for clothing. Food consumption is one thing

This way of thinking demonstrates perfectly the basic stupidity of animal rights advocates. The animals are still dead, whether they end up as a coat or a Big Mac.

In any case, cows are much sweeter animals than minks, nasty little creatures.

by Anonymousreply 140September 2, 2018 3:17 AM

That's your loss, sweet pea, not mine.

by Anonymousreply 141September 2, 2018 3:20 AM

never dug her sound

just a cow hollerin to the sow moon....

by Anonymousreply 142September 2, 2018 4:12 AM

To whoever said that Queen Aretha was not known in Europe, well here is a rare thing. The Changing of the Guards show Respect to the American Queen.

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by Anonymousreply 143September 2, 2018 5:30 AM

[quote] To whoever said that Queen Aretha was not known in Europe, well here is a rare thing. The Changing of the Guards show Respect to the American Queen.

One of the men who spoke at her funeral ( I can’t remember who maybe Isaiah Thomas) mentioned being in Paris at a restaurant last week; and they were playing Aretha’s music. Everyone started singing along and getting up and dancing.

by Anonymousreply 144September 2, 2018 5:51 AM

R144) Of course!

I think that person was trying to throw salt.

by Anonymousreply 145September 2, 2018 6:00 AM

That Katter wahling voice of hers left me with hives.

she tried so hard, but she did achieve some fame eh. love the shade she gave and got from Queen patty la belle

by Anonymousreply 146September 3, 2018 6:27 AM

r140, Fuck off you bitch. Your cosmic karma will be ten fold. You think you are better, enabling slaughterers of innocent creatures that do have conscious and can feel pain. I stopped eating meat a week ago, when are you going to step up to the plate.

by Anonymousreply 147September 3, 2018 7:22 AM

r143, these white racist older queens just make up lies of how they think the world should be. And they do it obsessively. Oh obese, black woman who didn't do disco music, she must not be known outside the states. Its so fucking moronic.

by Anonymousreply 148September 3, 2018 7:25 AM

R148 it's really unproductive to label people racist because they're unaware of someone. I admitted upthread I'd really forgotten she had hits in my lifetime until I remembered her mid-80s hits, which I liked.

I don't know why Aretha wasn't more on my radar. I'm familiar with Patti's pre-Labelle group The Bluebelles. Love the Supremes and Dionne Warwick's old Bacharach-David stuff. But I missed Franklin somehow.

R146 it's caterwauling. Similarly, it's catercorner not catty-corner.

by Anonymousreply 149September 3, 2018 8:08 AM

R149) I'm not R148) but I totally agree what they wrote.

There are a lot of racists on this board that defame black people, so I highly doubt that they are unaware of Aretha, like you are.

by Anonymousreply 150September 3, 2018 8:53 AM

Touched a nerve here OP, I'm the same, and coudln't name a single song of her's, all those singers just merge into one in my mind.

Surely you know by now you can't say anything that might be construed as a criticism of America on DL or you'll trigger them.

I always forget just how rightwing DL really is. Mind you this is the home of the 'RUSSIA!!' gate beleivers, they're always down for a bit of xenophobia and USA No.1 nationalism.

by Anonymousreply 151September 3, 2018 9:34 AM

"Those singers"? You mean African-American singers? Wow.

by Anonymousreply 152September 3, 2018 3:16 PM

R152) I thought the same thing, just wow.

He's trying to sound like he's a liberal, but he's Dumping traces of his real self.

by Anonymousreply 153September 4, 2018 6:05 AM
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