Why Anointing Joe Biden for 2020 is a Terrible Idea

If centrism is a thing that gets rids of Trump in 2020, I'm all for it. We can always go further to the left after that.

*rid of

WTF is In These Times? A Bernie paper?

He's just too old.

At present the Democrats really do not have a viable candidate to beat Trump. They're grasping at straws. It'll take time but don't underestimate Trump's popularity. Throw out the present batch of candidates and start from scratch. And no, it ain't Joe, either.

Berniac wing of the party still wants a "pure" nominee, meanwhile our country is being destroyed by Trump and the repubilicans because of their purity. Joe won't be anointed either, he'll have to earn the nomination.

[quote]He's just too old.

What is it with American and these ancient guys? He's 75 NOW.

[quote] “Middle-Class Joe” does not support single-payer healthcare.

Middle-Class Joe didn't support marriage equality, until he did. I am hoping Joe doesn't run but no just because he doesn't support something today doesn't mean he won't tomorrow. Same for anyone else.

I don't want a 77 yr old president.

Enough Biden talk.

Well he’s arguably the front runner right now, so there won’t be “enough Biden talk” unless he announces that he won’t run.

R11 If Biden is the front runner then God help the Democrats.

Republicans begin their candidate-seeking and mouthpiece-searching when kids are in HIGH SCHOOL. Stephen Miller was tapped by the GOP when he was still in high school. They supported him through college. Karl Rove was head of the student Republicans when the GOP started supporting him and giving him work. He dropped out of college because he didn't need it anymore. He was already working with top level Republicans.

Democrats don't do this. They should take a page from the GOP and start noticing kids writing for their school papers who have writing talent and a commitment to democratic ideals. Then praise them, offer them emotional support and sometimes financial support. Make them feel they are valuable to the Democratic Party.

We always see Young Republicans at the RNC and CPAC. When was the last time you saw Young Democrats? There is no centralized office in the Democratic Party that plans national searches for bright young things. They need to be noticed, nurtured and rewarded.

When’s the last time Biden made a gaffe?

R11 Biden’s as much a front runner as I am.

Harris / Kennedy

[quote] When’s the last time Biden made a gaffe?

Does it matter? He's got 40 yrs of gaffes, ripe for the Republican attack machine's picking.

As opposed to Trump and his 3,000 lies and gaffes per week. I don’t think they’ll have much to hit on.

[quote] As opposed to Trump and his 3,000 lies and gaffes per week. I don’t think they’ll have much to hit on.

Trump voters don't care about Trump's lies and gaffes. Liberal voters weren't as forgiving with Hillary and they won't be with Biden. They will sit at home.

Biden comforts his constituents:

That crap is the absolute LAST reason not to nominate Joe, R20.

I read some SJW attacking Kamala Harris for her "whorephobia."

That will get Trump reelected.

Biden is way too old

Even thought Kamala Harris appointed a trans person to a position and has been very pro-LGBT rights, Chelsea Manning and the trans mob are against her because as Attorney General representing the state she did not cough up the money for sex-changes for two murderers.

Even THOUGH

Democrats who run need a message. "Not Trump" is not a message to run on. Democrats need to forget about 2020 and start working on 2024. They've wasted too much time on Russia collusion and Stormy Daniels.

IT'S BIDEN'S IRAQ WAR JUDGEMENT, STUPID!

He's already proven he doesn't have the judgement worthy of a president by voting to authorize Dumb Dubya's wild goose chase in Iraq!

Why is nobody talking about Beto O’Rourke?

He’s a young, likeable, progressive candidate who has mainstream appeal and comes from a conservative area.

Joe Biden? Doesn’t he have a dead son? I thought I heard that once.

Anita Hill. The end.

Fucking hell. Can't they find anybody else? I'm sure Biden is a good man but he's just too old (75 right now) and too... I don't know but just no.

Is there NOBODY else at all? Is there such a vacuum? I think we are in for another 4 years of Trump. Pretty sure of it.

He voted for Conidi Rice to get a promotion after she missed that memo warning about 9/11 attack

He's too fuckin' old. How about getting someone in touch with the world?

He'll be 77 + in 2020. Nearly dead.

Jesus fucking Christ! Is there no middle aged hot white guy available? Just a down to earth, sexy DILF with charm? 300 million people in America and ancient Joe Biden is the front runner? Wtf??

He actually looks frail and old now.

Harris won't be able to win either. What a disaster.

Hillarity 2020!

I know. They don't even have someone like a John Edwards (who was ok up til the private life stuff...)

The whole Democrat Party needs a refresh.

Nancy Pelosi - 78

Chuck Schumer - 67

John Kerry - 74

It's time for some younger leaders.

R34, that guy is Beto O’Rourke, who is about to beat Ted Cruz in the Senate race in Texas.

But the Dems don’t want to hear about him, so fuck them... they can run Joe Biden and lose.

I like Biden, and 10 years ago I'd be all for him. But, if not Biden then who, speaking realistically?

I just saw this guy on a list of potential candidates. What is he like? Ok? Not ok?

Steve Bullock, Gov of Montana

R40, you posted a few seconds before me. I like O’Rourke, and I was going to say he's not experienced enough, but then I look at who's in the White House right now, and I think "Fuck it, why not?"

R43, he’ll have more experience than Obama did.

Experience means fuckall if you’ve got a dick and promise lies to people.

There are A LOT of young Democratic faces. They just won’t be ready in time for 2020.

This guy looks and sounds normal. He could win.

[quote]He's already proven he doesn't have the judgement worthy of a president by voting to authorize Dumb Dubya's wild goose chase in Iraq!

ll that proved is that he is bought and paid for by the Zionist war-mongers. Aren't they all?

[QUOTE]This guy looks and sounds normal. He could win.

How many women has he beaten up?

Jokes aside, after Schneidermann, even your weird sexual proclivities in the bedroom are on the table now despite the fact that the person consented. That’s why you need someone who’s a known quantity.

R46 why not? Dump truck had ZERO political experience. Stop looking for the perfect candidate, IT DOES NOT EXIST.

Exactly R46, there are plenty of younger qualified alternatives.

But the inept Dem leadership doesn’t want to hear this, and believes ancient Joe Biden is the way to go.

A guaranteed path to failure.

R49 I am not sure getting shit-faced and beating on women is a "sexual proclivity".

Gov. of Montana

Gov. Steve Bullock recently became the first governor in Montana history to officiate a same-sex marriage. He performed it Sept. 12 for Mike Wessler, his deputy communications director, and Wade Zolynski at Hauser Lake. About 100 people were in attendance. Wessler gave his boss kudos for a job well done.

[quote]But the inept Dem leadership doesn’t want to hear this, and believes ancient Joe Biden is the way to go.

This is part of the baby boomer generation. They do not want to let go of power. They are the most selfish generation to date.

R54, the problem is that Generation X is a bunch of slackers, and don’t have the motivation to force the Boomers out.

And here are millennials and geernation xyz

GENERATION

damn it!

R44, Obama served in the Illinois house for 8 years and was a US Senator for 4 more before becoming President. O'Rourke has served in the Texas Senate for 6 years. Even if he defeats Cruz in November (please please please), he'll only be able to serve 2 years in the US Senate before in 2020 elections.

Not that I'm against O'Rourke, exactly the opposite. I'd be happy as hell to see him take the White House away from the rotten orange turnip.

R54, actually I think Pelosi and Biden are part of the Silent Generation. They are even older than the Boomers.

Beto looks too young and the drug stuff and the SJW circus will not win votes. Trump could easily crush him.

R60, he’s in his 40s, and nobody cares about “drug stuff” from 20 years ago.

I get that sinking feeling. Like when Gore chose Lieberman as his running mate. I knew we'd lost then.

Biden has done too much groping to be considered POTUS material. Trump may have talked about it, but Biden did it. Plenty of videos on YouTube of him groping women. ##MeToo

Biden never molested a woman who didn’t want it.

Haha cute. Molest = didn't want it. Just sayin for those who didn't get the sarcasm

Biden will be almost eighty fucking years old in 2020. His time has passed.

Plus he would have to have a really good explanation of why he didn't run after 8 years of Obama. That whole "My son is dying" just doesn't really sound like the "real" reason he didn't run.

That Biden is even being talked about is depressing.

I know it's an old story but has the world just forgotten about Biden's plagiarism? I'm not talking about lifting the odd word, a phrase or a passage from one person like Melania was racked over the coals for. Biden was a serial plagiarist, he stole from Neil Kinnock, the Leader of the British Labour Party, RFK, JFK, and Hubert Humphery. Not to mention it was discovered that had committed plagiarism in law school and lied and embellished his college credentials. Honestly, I couldn't believe it when Obama picked Biden to be VP, but it would be idiotic for the Democrat Party to nominate him against Trump. The whole campaign is supposed to be about how Democrats contrast to Trump. If Biden is the nominee, the Democrat campaign becomes, vote for our old white groping lier, we promise he is better than the other one.

R69, thank you for bringing this up, it’s never mentioned. It was a huge scandal when it came out. Between the plagiarism and his creepynes around young girls, not to mention his age, there’s no way he’d win.

And his cravenness during Anita Hill.

Going for Biden because he supposedly has blue collar appeal is like going for Kerry in 2004 because of the war hero thing. It’s trying to play the game on the GOP’s terms, and that’s always a losing proposition. You never play by the rules your opponent sets.

Joe Biden has been a catastrophic failure every time he has run for president. He found his place as the presidential wingman, and was excellent in the role. He should accept that as his place in history.

Hillary 2020!

This time she's ready to win!

LOL r73

3rd times the charm?

R70

Biden is a Democrat.

The media would rather perform crude plastic surgery on themselves than expose a fellow collectivist

I'd be all in for Elizabeth Warren and think she's one of the few who might be able to bridge the divide between Hillary and Bernie supporters. I get that Dems are focused on the midterms, but trying to "not relitigate 2016" when it was never fully litigated is a big mistake, in my opinion. Thinking it won't rear its ugly head again in 2020 is delusional.

Warren is too much of a Bernie Bro, I don't like her hypocritical ass.

My goodness R27 I'd forgotten about Kerry. So easy to forget.

What do the boring wimpy Dukakis, Biden, Gore, Kerry have in common. At least Lieberman had his agenda however foul and Hillary has the balls in the Dem family.

[quote]Why is nobody talking about Beto O’Rourke?

If Beto beats Cruz, he is a sure in for the WH.

Too late, Joe. You coulda beat tramp.

Fuck Joe Biden. Creepy toucher. I don’t give a flying fuck if he’s on “our team”. He cannot keep his hands to himself. But, as always, women and girls are supposed to let it happen and “he’s harmless” and “he’s a good guy” or “he’s from a different time” and he does it in front of a thousand people and a dozen cameras, if it were wrong, he’d be hiding it. Jesus Christ, that’s the exact same kind of entitlement that “I could shoot someone on Fifth Avenue and get away with it” is! Oh but he’s a Democrat, we have to support him, hush now, little lady.

And IMO,Elizabeth Warren has the same problem as Hillary but worse: she’s a scold. She reminds me of the lady who teaches Sunday school to the “little ones”. I’d prefer Hillary because at least she gets her hands a little dirty with real power brokering.

And, no, I don’t have any better suggestions. I’ll give Beto a whirl.

Why can’t Obama run again?

[quote]He's got 40 yrs of gaffes, ripe for the Republican attack machine's picking.

There’s a spousal rapist and an Eastern European whore in the WH.

Gaffes schmaffes.

Hillary 2020 all the way!

Slogan: I’ve always been with HER!

Hillary 2020 - Third Time's the Charm!

Go Hillary! Go 2020!

[quote] Jesus fucking Christ! Is there no middle aged hot white guy available? Just a down to earth, sexy DILF with charm? 300 million people in America and ancient Joe Biden is the front runner? Wtf??

Como ?? he wants it bad ...

Biden should just shut up, he is not, was not and will never be POTUS material.

[quote] Too late, Joe. You coulda beat tramp.

No, the presidency will be mine! (just ask Beau)

Oh God please please please please please nominate Elizabeth Warren.

The time has finally come for America to debate scalp reductions vs hair plugs.

Martin O'Malley. He's like Biden only younger.

In 2004, the Democrats nominated John Kerry.

In 2016, the next presidential election cycle the party lost, their nominee was Hillary Clinton.

Both John Kerry and Hillary Clinton voted for the war in Iraq. (So, too, did 2008’s losing Republican nominee John McCain.)

If the Democrats want to lose [italic]three[/italic] presidential election cycles by nominating specifically a candidate who voted for the Iraq War, they would do be able to achieve that with Joe Biden.

What will his platform be? "Oh I was Obama's vice president". Wopee do

R92, Kerry didn't lose that election.

R93, better than Trump's.

I support Hillary because I sincerely believe she's the best America can offer. And that's dispirited faint praise bordering on cynicism.

Biden 2020 - Third Time's the Charm!

[QUOTE]What will his platform be?

How about Make America Decent Again?

R94 Kerry lost the popular and the electoral college vote, so how did Kerry not lose? Are you a crazy conspiracy theorist?

Biden will be the nominee and he will win, trust me.

R99 writes,

[Quote]Biden will be the nominee and he will win, trust me.

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Go away Donald R99

R98, the election was stolen, and it's not a conspiracy theory. It's just a conspiracy.

"Why is every Dem except Biden unpopular?" is an interesting Q that no one has answered. Quinnipiac has literally every other Dem underwater -- even Inslee, who is barely known, is -4.

Biden, let's see your brain scans.

An old white man is not going to be either the nominee or the candidate.

R105: Ummmmm..... the nominee IS the candidate..... of the party.....

Bump

By God, we need Joe Biden! This man is everything!

This just in, water is wet!!

Biden is just a repackaged Trump, I knew it the second he lied about his past politics so brazenly at the first democratic debate. The fact that he’s ahead in the polls makes me lose what little hope I had left for our country after 2016. We’re lambs actively walking into the slaughterhouse at this point.

Biden’s going to win because of idiot millennials and uninformed lower class POC’s. Millennials will vote for him because they inexplicably think that he had something to do with the good Obama did, and the POCs will vote for him just because he was associated with the first black president. Those are the two groups that didn’t vote and lost us 2020. We’re fucked because idiots are allowed to vote.

Biden’s going to win because of idiot millennials and uninformed lower class POC’s. Millennials will vote for him because they inexplicably think that he had something to do with the good Obama did, and the POCs will vote for him just because he was associated with the first black president. Those are the two groups that didn’t vote and lost us 2020. We’re fucked because idiots are allowed to vote.

r109 You're stupid and obviously just a troll.

R112 No, I’m somebody who sees that Biden is dangerous. You’re clearly the troll, and even worse, you’re a troll who wants another Trump in office.

Sorry, R111. You don’t get to claim that POCs didn’t vote in 2016 and lost “us” the election. Who voted for Clinton in greater percentages than POC? Who did the majority of white men vote for? Who did the majority of white WOMEN vote for?

Sit down.