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San Francisco Public Library hosts transgender "art exhibit"

Example of the "art"

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by Anonymousreply 19205/16/2018

"If you thought the age of scold’s bridles and dunking pools designed to torture and kill disobedient women were a thing of the past, you would be wrong. The San Francisco Public Library unveiled an exhibit this week featuring blood stained t-shirts encouraging patrons to “punch” feminists, along with several installations of deadly weapons painted pink: baseball bats covered in barbed wire, axes, among others, all designed by men to kill feminist women."

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by Anonymousreply 105/01/2018

nice bats!

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by Anonymousreply 205/01/2018

"The male creators of the exhibit also included a helpful manifesto, blaming lesbians, feminists and other uppity women for causing more deaths (by “harassing” men with their dastardly opinions!) than all the actual real murders committed by violent men.

The display, launched mere days after the mass murder of women in Toronto by “incel” terrorist Alek Minassian and echoing his philosophy, was funded by the non-profit Friends of The San Francisco Public Library and created by The Degenderettes, led by Scout Tran Caffee, founder of Trans Dykes: the anti-lesbian Antifa. The group specifically targets lesbians as “oppressors” of men -because they exclude males from their dating pools. The men in the group identify as transgender and consider themselves to be male lesbians.

Materials include riot shields inscribed with the slogan “Die Cis Scum”. Cis is a transgender community term, generally used as a slur, for non-transgender people."

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by Anonymousreply 305/01/2018

Every educational, liberal, gay, and women's organization has been taken over by anti-women, anti-lesbian, anti-gay forces

by Anonymousreply 405/01/2018

"Posted at the exhibition, MRA/incel complaints of “reverse sexism”: The fact that violence against feminists and lesbians is considered more likely to be perpetrated by males (as evidenced by all crime statistics worldwide throughout human history) is a conclusion that discriminates against men. Hmm. Never seen that one before. (sarcasm). Explicitly states that acknowledging male violence against women is “anti-transgender”.

Followed by bizarre claims that feminists “induce suicides” of men and threaten to kill them."

by Anonymousreply 505/01/2018

"The largely heterosexual “heteroqueer” group’s claim that they created the slogan “Your Apathy Is Killing Us” in the wake of the Pulse Nightclub shooting is incorrect. It was created by gay male Reagan era AIDS activists who were fighting for their literal lives demanding medical treatment for a deadly epidemic.

The Degenderettes slogan “Die Cis Scum” was popularized in 2012 by transgender White Nationalist “Char The Butcher”.

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by Anonymousreply 605/01/2018

So fucking disturbing! Why are these "male lesbian" incels being allowed to have a voice?

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by Anonymousreply 705/01/2018

[quote] Your apathy is killing us

Can't happen quickly enough.

by Anonymousreply 805/01/2018

Op, you realize you're linking to gendertrender, which is every bit as as insane and fanatical as the radical trannies it's attacking.

by Anonymousreply 905/01/2018

Who "curated" this exhibition? Who is celebrating violence against women (at a library of all places)?

Are there going to be any protests? Or have all women/lesbians been silenced?

by Anonymousreply 1005/01/2018

No, it isn't. It provides vital information that is being silenced in the media and it is pro-gay. What is your problem. R9?

by Anonymousreply 1105/01/2018

Fanatic at r11.

by Anonymousreply 1205/01/2018

r9, Radical groups need radical opposition. I see nothing wrong with GenderTrender.

by Anonymousreply 1305/01/2018

The sign from R3 says

[QUOTE]TERF is an acronym for "trans exclusionary (/erasing) radical feminist", an oppressive belief-set that attempts to delegitimize trans women - not just theoretically, but by inducing suicide through internet harassment, public release of personal information, calls to employers and landlords, legal action and substantiated threats of death and physical harm - often directed against minors. It is possible that more trans deaths have occurred as a result of TERF harassment than by cis male homicides.

No matter which side you're on, it has to be acknowledged that this is propaganda being presented as fact, and it's appalling this is allowed in a public library. Is this an art exhibit staged by the library itself, or is this an exhibit in an area of the library made available for community groups, etc?

It's also notable how trans activists themselves use the same tactics they claim are being used against them.

by Anonymousreply 1405/01/2018

Perhaps the best thing out of this -- or rather my hope -- is that rational, critical minded people will see this exhibit and be some level of appalled, put off; at least jostled from some form of complacency.

Trans is often incel = Transcel?

by Anonymousreply 1505/01/2018

This is frightening.

by Anonymousreply 1605/01/2018

Another link, for R9

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by Anonymousreply 1705/01/2018

This shit is seriously fucked. This is every bit as disturbing as groups who encourage violence against Jews, Muslims, Blacks, Asians....

by Anonymousreply 1805/01/2018

This is truly hate propaganda encouraging violence

Where the fuck are the liberals? Where is the gay movement? Where is the women's movement? What is wrong with that library? Where are the Democratic politicians?

by Anonymousreply 1905/01/2018

Jesus Fucking Christ, this is absolutely terrifying.

What is it going to take for people to open their eyes to how misogynistic and homophobic trans ideology is?

A lesbian couple and their son were murdered by a so-called transwoman (wolf in sheep’s clothing has never been more apt) and yet it was ignored by both LGB and feminist groups.

These men are openly advocating violence against women and yet nobody on the left will say a word against them.

As a woman, this truly makes me feel sick to the stomach and completely helpless.

by Anonymousreply 2005/01/2018

Is there anything we can do about it?

It is getting worse and worse and there are no groups left. (I think they are starting to organize in England but there is nothing here)

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by Anonymousreply 2105/01/2018

Oh and whenever I hear anything about these ‘male lesbians’, it makes me think of this old MadTv sketch.

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by Anonymousreply 2205/01/2018

The degenderettes are a humble and practical club?

by Anonymousreply 2305/01/2018

This is the Frankenstein monster of radical feminism. The bizarre cult like tactics, vicious hatred and propaganda, gender essentialism, and violence all trace back to them. Even the "SCUM" label comes from the rad fem who tried to murder Andy Warhol.

by Anonymousreply 2405/01/2018

It is the Frankenstein monster of Incels, Gender studies, tumblr, clockwork orange fantasies, "antifa" fantasies and liberal fools catering to it all

by Anonymousreply 2505/01/2018

There is a petition, R21

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by Anonymousreply 2605/01/2018

r24, yes, let's blame it on radical feminists even though they believe the exact OPPOSITE of what these "activists" believe and always have!

by Anonymousreply 2705/01/2018

The San Francisco Public Library twitter page is lit up.

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by Anonymousreply 2805/01/2018

Once again trans were given a weapon, which they promptly turned it around and shot themselves in the face.

And, trust me, Incel will make its way into discussions of MtFs interested in women, or really any angry/mouthy trans.

by Anonymousreply 2905/01/2018

This stupid, ugly and degraded "art" speaks for itself. Like a poster upthread said, it's appalling that a public library sponsors this. It's shit. SHIT. This is what is being selected for display instead of something really meaningful from our rich cultural trust? Public sector employees are insane - and we're forced to pay for it!

To think that images from Michangelo and the music of Mozart are available to be shared and they choose this stupid filth. The West is in serious trouble - morally and spiritually.

by Anonymousreply 3005/01/2018

That petition is important but I wonder if it will be met with the same response as the Drop the Tee one, that they only care about T.

by Anonymousreply 3105/01/2018

My kid could do that.

by Anonymousreply 3205/01/2018

I realize its easy-to-despise Milo, but note the manifesto names one person -- a gay man.

by Anonymousreply 3305/01/2018

Male insanity, male aggression.

by Anonymousreply 3405/01/2018

Is this an example of Bildnerei der Geisteskranken?

by Anonymousreply 3505/01/2018

r28, They removed a shirt? nothing about the weapons it seems.

by Anonymousreply 3605/01/2018

The only mosterous r24, is that Frankencunt wound you’re dilating.

by Anonymousreply 3705/01/2018

BS, r9

by Anonymousreply 3805/01/2018

Wow...tranny Dana Rivers brutally murdered two lesbians & their son IN THE SF BAY AREA to zero outrage.

This exhibit is VILE.

by Anonymousreply 3905/01/2018

R24 is blaming radical feminists for misogyny.

Wow.

by Anonymousreply 4005/01/2018

R32 made me LOL

by Anonymousreply 4105/01/2018

How is this not "cultural appropriation" when they haven't grown up being sidelined for being woman and bullied and called lesbians? I won't even get into the details of female puberty. I wouldn't mind so much if they had a modicum of humor.

by Anonymousreply 4205/01/2018

Isn't "antifa" (as used in the title "Degenerettes Antifa Art") used only by the alt-right? That means that this installation is an alt-right thing.

by Anonymousreply 4305/01/2018

Nasty

by Anonymousreply 4405/01/2018

Pink and baby blue sheets/hoods would go quite nicely with those pink and blue bats. Or would that be putting too fine a point on it?

I can't imagine what the library was thinking here..

by Anonymousreply 4505/01/2018

I signed the petition, and I'm not really a petition signer, but this is too fucking much.

San Francisco Public Library, really?

by Anonymousreply 4605/01/2018

I signed it, too.

by Anonymousreply 4705/01/2018

[quote]Isn't "antifa" (as used in the title "Degenerettes Antifa Art") used only by the alt-right? That means that this installation is an alt-right thing.

Completely wrong. The lunatic "left" fringe proudly calls themselvses "antifa" (it's supposed to mean 'anti-fascist'). Can't blame this on the "alt-right" . This is the corrupted lunatic "left" aided by the brain-dead "left" of the library. These assholes and others are killing the left.

by Anonymousreply 4805/01/2018

Trannies are so gross 😷, i dont know why they hate lesbians, these men are mentally ill. The worst about this issue is the people who support trans.

by Anonymousreply 4905/01/2018

I saw this in the comments on the petition:

"It is unbelievable that the SF Public Library has an exhibit advocating the murder of women. Also please demand facebook unban those they have banned for merely protesting this horrific exhibit on the library's fb page."

Facebook is banning those who protested this exhibit on the library's facebook page?

by Anonymousreply 5005/01/2018

Antifa: The Anti-Fascist Handbook

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by Anonymousreply 5105/01/2018

Here's the number for the San Francisco Library department that is handling complaints about the exhibit:

415 557 4233

When I called the San Francisco Mayor's office I was told by the young man who answered the phone that my complaints about a publicly-funded library exhibit that encouraged violence against women and included baseball bats covered with barb wire was "intolerant." This little public servant shit thinks that he can mouth off to a member of the public about the spending of public money on an incitement to violence against women.

by Anonymousreply 5205/01/2018

I really think these are the same women-hating men that make up incels and MRAs in a different guise. They are just as entitled, demanding and narcissistic. Two sides to the same coin.

As a lesbian, they are dangerous, scary, and need to be stopped.

Thanks to all gay men supporting us against this shit.

by Anonymousreply 5305/01/2018

Add me to the list of gay men who have lesbians' backs in this fight.

This "antifa" group is comprised of heterosexual men and heterosexual women. Their threats of violence towards lesbians have been escalating. For the past two years, they have brought an extremely dark and menacing presence to pride parades and resistance marches in the Bay Area. Their goal is to dominate lesbians through fear and intimidation. They are also cleverly (if we let them) laying the rhetorical groundwork for justifiable homicide. If "misgendering" is violence and attempted murder, "self-defense" is justified.

by Anonymousreply 5405/01/2018

If there ever was a person who looked like a homicidal trans woman character in a TV movie, it is this Char person - who is white supreme cost, you say?

Oy.

by Anonymousreply 5505/01/2018

r55, Even the name sounds like a made up charater from a movie. "Char The Butcher" lol

by Anonymousreply 5605/01/2018

R33, and note how they don't mention the evil violent TERFS (ie lesbians) in their manifesto either, even though they make terfs the scapegoat for all tranny ills in the exhibit itself. The actual straight men who attack them? Irrelevant. In fact, those men aren't even the target for their "protest" because unlike gays and lesbians, homophobes won't be at the pride parade to see it. This is literally just mentally ill straight men walking around with weapons and making aggressive threats at a dyke march because homosexuality offends them. Also they can't dress for shit. And it's being lauded as progressive. It'd be hilarious if it wasn't so disturbing.

by Anonymousreply 5705/01/2018

How did the left/liberal/academia/gay groups/women's groups get so brainwashed en masse? I realize this has been going on and increasing for at least a decade with a strong push, but isn't there something obviously hateful and prejudiced about the "exhibit"?

Do they just repeat the jargon words they know they have to repeat and can't think anymore?

by Anonymousreply 5805/01/2018

I am pretty sure that Char person is the one that slices off long strips of his own skin.

And eats it.

by Anonymousreply 5905/01/2018

Oh look: the trannies are trying to censor the thread, as usual.

by Anonymousreply 6005/01/2018

R58, that truly is the question. How did the Trans, allegedly less than .5% of the population, manage to so rapidly become the victim du jour, in the process smashing laws designed to protect women in record time?

In the US, gay rights and women's rights are still at risk, the latter from trans activism itself, as well as the GOP taking away reproductive choice/ women's health care, yet lawmakers and the media bend over backwards for these men who think that they're women.

We know now that Trans activism is being heavily funded, and is being pushed by Big Pharma and the medical-industrial complex, but that still doesn't explain why these quite crazy, up-is-down, violent lunatics are being so adamantly championed by intelligent people who should know better in the media, government, education, academia, healthcare. It really is like the Emperor's New Clothes.

by Anonymousreply 6105/01/2018

Yes, R61. It is incredible. And depressing.

by Anonymousreply 6205/01/2018

R59, he actually is a butcher, his twitter photos are pretty disturbing. Just google 'Char the Butcher,' but DON'T click on the Vimeo link, don't make the same mistake I did.

by Anonymousreply 6305/01/2018

[quote] The actual straight men who attack them

Correct! Violence against "transwomen" is only committed by two groups: men who identify as straight, and other transwomen.

But, you'll never see them take baseball bats to the alleys, parks, and cheap hotels where transwomen are attacked and killed by men. These transwomen are in solidarity with their fellow bros in their love of violence and their hatred of real women.

This "art exhibit" like all of trans ideology falls apart upon inspection and depends on a total denial of reality.

If you haven't contacted the SF Public Library, do it now. And then, contact their donors!

by Anonymousreply 6405/01/2018

r63, I saw his kiwifarms thread where he's eating strips of the back of his legs that he cut off to look like the seam of stockings. I definitely am not going to investigate further - thanks for the warning though! Coming to a ladies room near me, lucky me :/

by Anonymousreply 6505/01/2018

The gals at Lipstick Alley are not having it.

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by Anonymousreply 6605/01/2018

When we call our elected officials about this outrage, we need to mention that the organizer is on the internet eating strips cut off of the back of his legs, yet the state of California, in its infinite wisdom, has decided to take this monster's side over the more than 50% of its population that is female.

Then remind them that the Pussy March was the largest political rally in US history, so do they want votes or do they want to side with violent, rape-fantasizing misogynists who eat parts of their own body on camera and then post the videos?

by Anonymousreply 6705/01/2018

Women are their target, yet they feel more comfortable in the women's restrooms? How exactly does that work?

Is this the message they're trying to convey with that exhibition? If so, they're doing a really good job.

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by Anonymousreply 6805/01/2018

This is getting zero coverage in the media of course. Imagine if any other group were the target of this "exhibit." It would get coverage.

by Anonymousreply 6905/01/2018

The Degenderettes posted a string of "brave, strong" tweets on Twitter, but they're not getting a lot of love. 8 likes here, 11 likes there. You don't know the meaning of "Mary!" until you see these posts.

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by Anonymousreply 7005/01/2018

Fabulous!!! (Sarcasm off.)

by Anonymousreply 7105/01/2018

This is depressing and scary.

by Anonymousreply 7205/01/2018

There is so much collusion to deny some of the uncomfortable truths about the T movement. I think at some point there will be a watershed moment where the house of cards comes tumbling down. Some brave investigative journalism is needed around this especially concerning the medical ethics of transing children. What's Ronan Farrow up to these days?

by Anonymousreply 7305/01/2018

He’s come out as queer, r73.

by Anonymousreply 7405/01/2018

I guess they got to another one R73

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by Anonymousreply 7505/01/2018

Why not ask an out and proud gay female journalist?

There's Rachel Maddow. And then there's ...?

That's part of the problem. Men (gay males and trans-identified males) set the agenda and control the media. There is not a single lesbian with the power to make this a top story in mainstream or LGBT media.

by Anonymousreply 7605/01/2018

I hate art that is text based. It is lazy art work. Slogan based art work is lame.

by Anonymousreply 7705/01/2018

Incredible how these deranged, misogynist, homophobic straight men have become the sacred cows of feminism, the gay movement and the entire liberal-left.

How'd they pull that off?

by Anonymousreply 7805/02/2018

The TERF shit is violent, and Just anti human. Nothing wrong with being antifa. Ask the judges at the Nurmberg trials who handed down sentences to hang the fascists in 1946-47.

by Anonymousreply 7905/02/2018

[quote]homophobic straight men have become the sacred cows of feminism, the gay movement and the entire liberal-left. How'd they pull that off?

It started decades ago with the "Left" adopted the homo-hating, oppressive, misogynist ideology of Islam as its fetish. The "trans" agenda, being an identical ideology, was the natural progression and next step along. In both instances, government, media, educational institutions and political parties fully support the agendas, which are also supported by the medical and mental health professions. The political divide has evolved into a political circle where the "Left" fervently supports the regressive, reactionary, the misogynist, the anti-gay and the bigoted.

by Anonymousreply 8005/02/2018

R76, Rachel Maddow is brainwashed re trans. And picking at the Trump thing every day is nice and safe. She’s not gonna touch it.

by Anonymousreply 8105/02/2018

Maddow wil be forced to report on it if any of these insane homophobes make good on their threats and kill a bunch of lesbians.

"No one could have guessed" is what they'll all say after ignoring a mountain of red flags.

Keep up the pressure on the SFPL. Violent homophobia has no place in San Francisco.

by Anonymousreply 8205/02/2018

I’ve been off my meds for a few days (can get re-fills on Friday) but this shit has me feeling suicidal. I’ll hang on, but this clusterfuck IS depressing. 😥😪😲

by Anonymousreply 8305/02/2018

I like the Antifas when they are punching Trumpers. Antifa hasn't killed anyone by the way. Lots of right-wing groups have, and somehow that's OK. Antifa just punch people. I don't think REEFs should be punched tho

by Anonymousreply 8405/02/2018

Antifa does way more than punch people. They use weapons. Pipes, baseball bats, etc.

Attacks haven't been fatal for lesbians ... yet.

And please explain why it's OK to "just punch" lesbians?

by Anonymousreply 8505/02/2018

Didn’t you know that women exist for the use and pleasure of men, r85?

by Anonymousreply 8605/02/2018

Clarification: This group calling itself an Antifa has never killed a lesbian. But transwomen, of course, have a long history of killing real women.

The "fascism" this particular Antifa is fighting is the fascist control of personal pronouns and access to women's vaginas.

by Anonymousreply 8705/02/2018

Straight and gay ladies, aren't you tired of all this shit yet? Local institutions are now celebrating visiting violence on you by dangerous men via a retrospective of the perpetrators' supposed oppression!

by Anonymousreply 8805/02/2018

This is pure misogyny combined with envy and topped off with sexual rage -these men want to be lesbians/women and they want to fuck lesbians/ women. Lesbians are the ultimate prize and the ultimate source of rage, because in their warped minds fucking a lesbian is finally proving that they're women.

I was looking at the twitter feed of these TransCels and in one picture of what they were going to exhibit, there was a noose hanging off of what appeared to be a saw.

It is just shocking that in the year 2018, women can be threatened with hanging and being beaten with barb wire-wrapped baseball bats in a publicly-funded art exhibit in the most "liberal" city in the US, and no one blinks an eye.

R83 stay hopeful. Trust me on this, the tide is going to turn soon. But we need to make our voices heard and we need to publicize this exhibit, so call:

San Francisco mayor's office (tell the little shit who answers the phone that you're gay and are going to encourage other gays to boycott SF until they stand up against violent misogyny and stand up for the rights of lesbians):

415-554-6141

Number for SF Public Library: 415 557 4400

Number for the Friends of the library (funders)-they need to hear from us (415) 477-5220.

Make sure that you tell them that you're gay and you will not take this shit any more.

BTW: nice try R80 (Matt?) but this has nothing to do with Islam-the vast majority of American Muslims are far from misogynists. In fact, the Trans activist MO reminds me more of the pro-Israel propaganda with which Americans are inundated from birth.

by Anonymousreply 8905/02/2018

R88 been sick of it for a long time. We need men to stand with us though.

by Anonymousreply 9005/02/2018

Aside from gay and lesbian organizations, is this a topic of discussion in mainstream feminism?

I recall last year MsMagazine stated: "We hold these truths to be self-evident: Trans women are women. Trans feminism is feminism. And #TransRightsAreHumanRights. "

The photo below is Gloria Steinem embracing Cherno Biko, the male transactivist who confessed to brutally raping a (female) transman in an attempt to impregnate her. Just another violent crime against lesbians never to be reported in either the mainstream or LGBTQIA media.

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by Anonymousreply 9105/02/2018

Has anyone tried contacting GLAAD or the HRC? Is so, what was their response?

by Anonymousreply 9205/02/2018

R92 Probably being labeled a divisive transphobe. Our advocacy orgs are totally Trojan-horsed.

by Anonymousreply 9305/02/2018

Gloria Steinem would be considered a TERF. She is a second wave feminist. We don't believe in gender. She fought against gender identity in the 70's and she hasn't changed her opinion.

by Anonymousreply 9405/02/2018

Why does the left allow this, R20/58/78? The left continues to champion a brutally homophobic, misogynist medieval religion, because its practitioners are non-Western and ostensibly people of color, and whenever this irrationality is pointed out, the response is equivocation about Christianity, the Crusades, colonialism, etc etc etc.

Transgenderism is more esoteric and transgressive--it checks even more boxes. How many points can boring women and gay men rack up against someone who gouges out his own flesh and eats it on camera?

by Anonymousreply 9505/02/2018

I read the twitter feed of a Trans actress who lost that role in Ruffalo’s movie to Matt Bomer.

She described how bio men playing trans women is “literal violence” because, at heart, straight men want to fuck trans women but society shames them so so they can’t and they act out in violence. Don’t ask me how that makes sense.

It appalls me no end how straight men get off the hook for refusing sec with trans women and lesbians are blamed and threatened with weapons.

by Anonymousreply 9605/02/2018

*sex, not sec, WTF

by Anonymousreply 9705/02/2018

R2, GLAAD, HRC, Lamda Legal were all contacted a few years ago about thei trans bullies silencing of women/feminists, the homophobia of trans ideology and the homophobic transing of kids

They all said they didn't give a shit about any of that.

by Anonymousreply 9805/02/2018

Oops that was for R92

by Anonymousreply 9905/02/2018

R96 Because they don't want to attack the top of the food chain and the most important validator.

by Anonymousreply 10005/02/2018

Sorry, Gloria Steinem is a sellout and has been for a while. Embracing the vicious misogyny of trans but also the " third-wave " anti-feminism. All the media "feminists" are sellouts. They have career$ to protect.

Look elsewhere for a real feminist. Try Shelia Jeffreys.

by Anonymousreply 10105/02/2018

R91, mainstream feminists cater to transwomen. I went to my city's Women's March this year and could not believe the bowing and scraping to these men. However, more and more women are waking up to the insanity.

by Anonymousreply 10205/02/2018

Look, we can bitch about this on here, or we can act. I am old enough to remember ACT UP! Younger people probably wouldn't even believe what gay men went through and how much courage it took to launch that movement.

This same sort of movement is needed now to protect lesbians and all women from these violent misogynists and the terror they are inciting. Gay groups and mainstream feminists groups are worthless - transgender health is spotlighted on the homepage of the National Organization for Women - this when real women are losing access to all kinds of healthcare, not just reproductive care. Fucking bullshit.

by Anonymousreply 10305/02/2018

I called the Mayor's office and yes, the guy is a little shit who wants to talk over you and give you a number so they can 'explain' the exhibit to you. Stay calm, state your name, and let him have it.

I've been here on the DL, lurking, for many years before I dared to post. I remain closeted and suffered violence at the hands of men because I was born in a generation that pigeon-holed women in very defined roles they could not escape. I finally did and what is happening? Some guy in a dress wants to believe he's a better 'woman' than me and will beat me for it? I cannot with this today, I'm crying so much after looking at that exhibit. Sorry for my sisters who have been hurt and murdered and sorry for myself, all over again.

I really hope the gay community has our back. I'm so scared right now. This is simply unbelievable. A public promotion of the murder, lynching and mutilation of women. There really is no god.

by Anonymousreply 10405/02/2018

"Gloria Steinem would be considered a TERF. She is a second wave feminist. We don't believe in gender. She fought against gender identity in the 70's and she hasn't changed her opinion."

Well, it would be damn nice if she came out publicly. Look how upset lesbians like R104 are. That's who Steinem should be supporting. This makes me SICK.

by Anonymousreply 10505/02/2018

R104, sending you a hug, and thanks for taking action.

Do not worry, there are still people who will fight this bullshit. Women in the UK have woken up and are starting to organize. That will happen here.

This exhibit might be the tipping point, if we publicize it - so call the press -- call the government - call your friends - call gay and feminist groups and ask, "If these nooses and barb-wire covered baseball hats were directed against African-Americans or any other easily-identified and traditionally marginalized group, the outrage would be global - so where is the outrage when this kind of incitement to violence is directed against women, who make up more than half of the world's populations, but live without basic human rights in many parts of the world and with the threat of physical and sexual violence all over the world?"

by Anonymousreply 10605/02/2018

DL's pro-trans "loon" troll is oddly silent in this thread.

by Anonymousreply 10705/02/2018

R81 Rachel is crazy she should be talking about how trannies are killing lesbians, but no she waste her time talking about Trump 😠

by Anonymousreply 10805/02/2018

I think all of you are gross and sick how you conflate all trans people as being rapists, killers, butchers, predators who are all lurking in women's restrooms, etc! Those are seriously the type of labels and fearmongering tactics that people used to use against gay people back in the day. It's just like you freaks to also be defending Trump and throwing around the word "antifa," too! Glad people here are seeing you for who you really are!

by Anonymousreply 10905/02/2018

R109, go away. We don't need to call them that. This exhibit proves it. Just go away.

by Anonymousreply 11005/02/2018

No one on this thread is equating all trans with rapist, killers, butcher, R109

We are talking about a public library exhibit mounted by trans activists and paid for by public funds that contains bloody t-shirts with violent phrases directed towards women and also contains weapons such as saws, nooses and barb-wire covered baseball bats, that these trans activists think are appropriate to use against women.

We are also talking about how mainstream gay and lesbian groups, as well as feminist groups, have been co-opted by these same type of viciously misogynistic trans activists, who, far from being called out for their advocation of violence against women, are being lauded by the press and public as they very rapidly change laws designed to protect women.

R109 if you are a gay person then I would suggest you read the whole thread, and go to the trans activists twitter page that is linked on this thread - see for yourself what trans activists involved in this exhibit are doing.

by Anonymousreply 11105/02/2018

We're the gross and sick ones?

Got it.

by Anonymousreply 11205/02/2018

Maybe you are not, R111, but so many of these threads are all about smearing all trans people as some type of boogeyman. Some of you have seriously been posting the same shit for about three or four years now, and where has that gotten you, exactly? It doesn't help your cause that a lot of you are a bunch of idiot Trumptards who bring up the "Trans!" issue to stoke fear and divisiveness.

I'll leave you to babble amongst yourselves now!

by Anonymousreply 11305/02/2018

Don't forget to take your barbed wire bat with you.

by Anonymousreply 11405/02/2018

R113 you love popping into threads like this and scolding the posters, admit it.

by Anonymousreply 11505/02/2018

[quote] No one on this thread is equating all trans with rapist, killers, butcher, [R109]

Hilarious! The poster before you just did, R111!

[quote] [R109], go away. We don't need to call them that. This exhibit proves it.

by Anonymousreply 11605/02/2018

These are men who have the balls to twirl baseball bats at lesbians as a show of force and dominance at gay pride parades and dyke marches.

This gay man supports lesbians 1000%.

by Anonymousreply 11705/02/2018

I support them 90%. Let's not be mathematically illogical.

by Anonymousreply 11805/02/2018

Maybe, r113, you should start speaking out against such trans nonsense, then, rather than scolding us. In the UK transsexuals are starting to get together to fight against the transtrenders. They understand that they are male. They realise that they suffer from a rare and difficult condition and transitioning to relieve it does not make them female. They see modern transgenderism as misogynist, homophobic and anti-science. To object to this ideology (and it is an ideology) is not transphobic.

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by Anonymousreply 11905/02/2018

Where has this trans obsession gotten you, exactly? Four years ago, you were posting on and on about how you are going to start new groups, protest, create petitions, march on the the streets. Now it's four years later, and what happened? You're still whining on Datalounge about the same tired shit. Oh wait, apparently you did contact gay groups. And how well did that go for you?

[quote] [R2], GLAAD, HRC, Lamda Legal were all contacted a few years ago about thei trans bullies silencing of women/feminists, the homophobia of trans ideology and the homophobic transing of kids. They all said they didn't give a shit about any of that.

Not even the webmistress of this website can barely stand to have you and your tired threads on here!

by Anonymousreply 12005/02/2018

Uh oh, the DL tranny ass kisser has stated its boundaries.

by Anonymousreply 12105/02/2018

R120: You forgot to call us Trump supporters. No accusations of Russian bot activity. Not even your trademark "skreeee skreeee"

Did your post get cut off?

Now that the OP has been greyed out from F&F you can run back to the tranny homebase and let us gay men and women discuss the issue at hand.

by Anonymousreply 12205/02/2018

Awww, did the truth hurt that you've gotten absolutely nowhere in four years, R121 and R122? Did I trigger you and hurt your itty, bitty, little, wittle feelings? Remember you started that petition and tried to circulate it and make it happen? What happened? I thought you were supposed to fight the system and make inroads and show all mainstream gay people what a Trojan horse trans are or whatever?

by Anonymousreply 12305/02/2018

Keep dilating, R123. You wouldn't want your wound to close up.

by Anonymousreply 12405/02/2018

Oh, of course, anybody who disagrees with you is a tranny, right R124? Because no other gay person could possibly ever take a step back, look at what you've been saying about all Trans being murderers or rapists or all of these awful things, and think, hey what the fuck, I don't want them speaking for me.

by Anonymousreply 12505/02/2018

Nope. If you support trannies who want to kill women and trans young gay children, you're not a gay man. Plain and simple. You may think you are, but you're not.

by Anonymousreply 12605/02/2018

Trannies have all sorts of allies ... A few are actual women.

The Degenderettes have Kitty Stryker: a fat femme queer who goes by "Antifa Trash Panda" on Twitter.

When not promoting pink and blue weapons to crack lesbian skulls, she produces pornography and promotes sex work.

Because prostitution keeps transwomen safe and misgendering is murder.

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by Anonymousreply 12705/02/2018

[quote] Nope. If you support trannies who want to kill women and trans young gay children, yo

Do you even hear what you are saying anymore, or did spending 4 years on these echo chamber threads turn your brains completely to mush? You sound about as sane as a schizophrenic homeless person on the street corner babbling on about conspiracy theories.

[quote] you're not a gay man.

Thanks, but no thanks. I sure as hell do not need your permission to quantify how much of a gay man I am or am not.

by Anonymousreply 12805/02/2018

[quote] I sure as hell do not need your permission to quantify how much of a gay man I am or am not.

Yes, you do.

by Anonymousreply 12905/02/2018

Yippee! The Trans Hag is finally here! Just got off from his office bottom job in Des Moines.

Hey Trans Hag, in the last two days, since learning about this exhibit, I have contacted members of the media, members of the government, gay and lesbian organizations and women's groups.

Thanks for the motivation, Trans Hag!

by Anonymousreply 13005/02/2018

R128 If you cant support lesbians, you are not men enough.

by Anonymousreply 13105/02/2018

What a terrible anti-female message to send to little kids at the public library! So bizarre!!

by Anonymousreply 13205/02/2018

[quote] I have contacted members of the media, members of the government, gay and lesbian organizations and women's groups.

Oh yeah, well big fucking deal! You've been saying this shit for four years now, oh how you're going be such a bad ass and you're going to contact the media, you're going to write to gay groups, you're not going to donate to gay organizations, you're going to boycott gay publications, and you're gonna take your ball and go home. Well, guess what? Four years have passed. Nothing has changed! These gay groups, publications, and organizations are still around. They haven't gone anywhere. They haven't gone belly-up. Apparently, you are not this special, all-important, powerful snowflake that you think you are!

[quote] Thanks for the motivation

Oh, there is no need to thank me at all. I don't need to do very much at all. Because the more you talk, the more it comes out that you are all as crazy as that Matthew troll person!

by Anonymousreply 13305/02/2018

Wrong, Trans Hag, I didn't even know what a TERF was last year. Thanks to the DL for a huge education on the dangers of this particularly virulent strain of trans activism.

And also wrong about what I myself have been up to. You have no clue. And, as anyone who has been involved in any social justice movement knows, change does not happen overnight. The trans lobby is incredibly well-funded and launched itself off of the backs of gays and lesbians, and still hides behind the LG & B, so tackling it will take some time, but there are many people like myself and others on this thread who are saying, "ENOUGH."

by Anonymousreply 13405/02/2018

r133 Thinks we're all crazy but the "I punch terfs" and the bats painted pink with barbed wire wrapped around them aren't. That ain't art, bitch!

by Anonymousreply 13505/02/2018

I'm just a woman who makes love to other woman. I didn't come out of the closet to be threatened or maimed by another person who is angry that I do not want to sleep with them. I'm so upset to see anyone defend this exhibit. You have to see it and read the propaganda to truly understand. They even imply lesbians are responsible for the majority of violence against trans.

I'm a live and let live person and get there are people out there with this issue and they transition. Why must they see what I do as a threat to them? Take no for an answer and back off. What I think you are or what you do shouldn't matter to you.

R116, I'm R109. The exhibit speaks for itself. It advocates the butchery and murder of women and sees 'cis' women, the thing they want to be so damn much, as the enemy. I'm afraid for my life. I'm sure you think this means I'm calling people names when I point out what that exhibit is saying. I'm not. Now leave me alone and do not twist my words. You would not have the BALLS to address me like this to my face, I assure you.

by Anonymousreply 13605/02/2018

You are a very small and embarrassing minority of fringe people within the larger gay community who most mainstream gay people would not ever in one million years want to be publicly linked to! Good luck with your 'movement!' You're going to need it, R134!

Who is excusing the crazy people at OP, R135? I certainly never did. But I also know that you can also take the worst from any group of people and then try to extrapolate that as being indicative of an entire demographic. Conservative trolls love to do that shit. They do it here on DL to other minority groups all the time. What's more appalling is how many useful idiots on here fall for their shit!

by Anonymousreply 13705/02/2018

That exhibit does not belong in a public library.

by Anonymousreply 13805/02/2018

All we're doing is discussing the "art" made by transgenders that is on display at the San Francisco public library, r137. If you think the "art" reflects poorly on the transgender community than take it up with the San Francisco Public Library for displaying it. We didn't tell them to.

by Anonymousreply 13905/02/2018

I guess moms at the library could point out this exhibit to their kids and tell them it was made by a transgender. The moms could use it as an opportunity to warn their kids that this is how trans people and their supporters view females. So, in a way, it could be educational and have some value.

by Anonymousreply 14005/02/2018

R137

How many worst examples of a given community get a fawning exhibit anywhere, let alone at a public library?

Face the fact: Trans has made all "good liberals" lose their damn minds. The trans gang featured in that exhibit are nothing but a bunch of violent thugs. If they represented any group other than trans, that exhibit never would have gotten the greenlight. "Good liberals'" brains have fallen out in service of a "community" that effectively doesn't exist. No community can have any cohesion when members can identify into our out of it at will.

At this point, it's hard to see stanning for insane "trans" people like this as anything other than a leftist backlash against women. Punch terfs* indeed.

*i.e. any woman with boundaries or who isn't an idiot.

by Anonymousreply 14105/02/2018

It's not divisive to point out that there is a violent, fringe group within the LGBTQ grouping that wants to kill the other one. I'm really sorry this is happening. This has decided me to donate my money and support to runaway shelters for gay youth rather than continue to support the larger organizations that sponsor and encourage this. I know of two trans women. One on social media and another who is active in the movement. Both are sane people who would not sanction this shit, but they're older and saner and knew what they'd be up against when they transitioned.

I'll be putting my umbrella away. Those axes are just too much and I'm done.

by Anonymousreply 14205/02/2018

R142

"Gay" youth homeless shelters are now majority trans and "non-binary". A young lesbian I got to know online was staying at one. She was soon to age out, which was a mixed blessing because sexual harassment and abuse against lesbians and trans men were rife at that shelter. The perpetrators: all trans "girls" and "non-binary" straight boys. Those who ran the shelter unilaterally took the side of the harassers/abusers because they're so "oppressed".

by Anonymousreply 14305/02/2018

Love you, old lez, but it's helpful to me to not think in terms of "LGBTQ" anymore.

Now I think - as I did in the '70s - "Gay men and Lesbians."

Leave the rest of that alphabet junk alone. We see now what it leads to.

by Anonymousreply 14405/02/2018

Keep your money. Start your offshoot, radical organizations based entirely off of this hysterical fearmongering, and then let's meet back here on Datalounge in another four years and we will see exactly how far you have gotten, and how many people and gay groups you have managed to link up behind your divisive rhetoric and message of hate.

And for those of you wearing your old age like some type of badge of honor or as an excuse, give me a fucking break. I'm nowhere near a spring chicken either, and I think that frankly you are the ones on these threads who are the most embarrassing. You can almost excuse younger people for being brainwashed or falling for these transparent, divisive tactics, because they are young and dumb. But you? You're old. You've been around for a hell of a long time. What the hell is your excuse? I guess what they see really is true: There is no fool like an OLD fool!

by Anonymousreply 14505/02/2018

Look at the T , all he can do is try to personally attack someone who made the mistake of speaking honestly.

You want "hate" , look at the crazy hateful "exhibit" at the SF public library.

It's all threats, smears, lies and bullying. Intelligent L&G are indeed sick of the psychotic , homophobic, misogynist bullying T mob.

by Anonymousreply 14605/02/2018

R145, did you read my post? See the exhibit? Look at it online? Call and talk to the library board? I'm embarrassed for you, but since I don't give much of a shit what you think, I certainly don't expect you to care what I think. I'll let your misogyny stand for itself, like the exhibit.

by Anonymousreply 14705/02/2018

R143, I'm sorry to hear that, but I'll still be supporting those kids. No one should be run out of their house for being what they are. I don't make those types of judgements, but side with common sense. If you fuck with someone, I don't care what you call yourself, you're wrong. I just can't support the trans agenda when it advocates the killing of women.

It really seems like people have lost their minds.

by Anonymousreply 14805/02/2018

R147, Did I ever say that I agree with or like this exhibit? What I've been talking about is the bigger picture, about all of these endless, thousands of trans threads where you and other posters like you continue to pile on and make these cruel and mean-spirited associations about all trans people. You essentially compare them all to monsters every day, comparing them to rapists and killers, that they all want to hide inside women's locker rooms or whatever the hell else you've been bleating on about. It's fucking ugly and it's a bunch of fucking baloney! I remember when these were things that people used to say about gay people not that long ago. Too bad that you conveniently don't seem to remember that!

by Anonymousreply 14905/02/2018

R147, Don't pay attention to him . He is the nasty pro-T troll. Whenever we try to discuss the trans issue, he comes on and tries to insult and attack people. He has made misogynistic remarks plenty of times and homophobic remarks. He also does not care about the homophobic, sexist malpractice transing of children and will viciously ridicules anyonewho tries to talk about it.

by Anonymousreply 15005/02/2018

So convenient for you to just dismiss anybody on these threads who dares disagree with you and your endless circle jerk of hate. I think you are a bunch of dangerously stupid, old fools, and I sure as hell hope that no malleable young person ever mistakes your age for wisdom or falls under the influence of any of the nonsense coming out of your mouth.

by Anonymousreply 15105/02/2018

Yes, you're right, R150. I guess I'm being super emotional because I stupidly looked at that exhibit and was heartbroken. I've been an ally to transpeople and have even gone toe to toe to defend them on some of those threads. It was a transwoman on facebook who encouraged me to come out when I was 55. My thinking has evolved around this issue, however, and the exhibit put me over the edge. Seriously, I haven't stopped crying. Thanks for the support.

by Anonymousreply 15205/02/2018

If you want to talk about "hate" check out the images and message of this "exhibit" - that is clearly hate

Stop abusing the word

by Anonymousreply 15305/02/2018

I am disturbed by it to,R152. I signed the petition Ignore the person who wants to attack you on this thread.

by Anonymousreply 15405/02/2018

Why are some trans people so entitled? Why do they demand the unlimited use, with or without consent, of the bodies of non-trans women?

by Anonymousreply 15505/02/2018

Disturbed by it ,TOO

(STUPID IPHONE )

by Anonymousreply 15605/02/2018

They are bullies, R152. There are mental problems involved like the incels -OCD, delusions, rage, narcissism, inadequacy, rage....

by Anonymousreply 15705/02/2018

This is a pie chart representing the total number of transwomen assaulted in 2017.

The blue represents those assaulted by males and the red represents the percentage of transwomen assaulted by lesbians.

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by Anonymousreply 15805/02/2018

R123, Why the fuck are you here? This is where GAY voices are in charge. Good god, look at you. Ugh. You're an extra flaky biscuit and you leave a mess wherever you go, who the hell needs that? And why aren't you busy squawking about this fucked-up exhibit to all your wonderful, fair-minded trans comrades? You better get on the horn and get your loonies in line, chop-chop!

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by Anonymousreply 15905/02/2018

[quote] but this has nothing to do with Islam-the vast majority of American Muslims are far from misogynists.

Like the vast majority of "trans" are far from misogynist R89. Misogyny and homophobia are inherent in both Muslim and "trans" ideologies, therefore no coincidence that both have avid "Left" support.

by Anonymousreply 16005/02/2018

Because R155 they are entitled heterosexual men and no amount of pronouns, lipstick and shoes will change that.

by Anonymousreply 16105/02/2018

*applauding elder lez*

This exhibit has no place in a publicly-funded civic building.

by Anonymousreply 16205/03/2018

Bump

by Anonymousreply 16305/03/2018

So these transcels have guns too.

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by Anonymousreply 16405/03/2018

They sort of remind me of the Ellen Jamesians from “The World According to Garp”.

by Anonymousreply 16505/03/2018

This exhibit is within the James C. Hormel LGBTQIA Center of the San Francisco Public Library. James Hormel (yes of the meat products family) is the primary funder of this special collection, along with several of his wealthy friends.

I think it would be smart to go put a flea in James' ear about this.

by Anonymousreply 16605/03/2018

So apparently the bloody “I punch TERFs” tee shirt got removed, but the pastel baseball bats remain...

Do trans people not realize how violent, intolerant, and crazy this “art exhibit” makes them look?

by Anonymousreply 16705/03/2018

Nope, r167. and I’m fine with that.

The more they show themselves as they reall are — wolves in granny clothes—the better.

In fact, it’s a godsend. If they behaved respectfully, nobody would ever believe us. But now we have lists and lists of their documented insanity.

I still can’t get over the fact that this exhibit is in the very same area that two lesbians and their son were brutally murdered by a tranny in 2016. That they would laud perpretarors of violence in the name of justice after a lesbian family was murdered is just staggering.

Oh and remember that google executive transwoman whose ex-wife accused him of raping her? That was in Silicon Valley.

When I lived there in the 90s, two lesbians were murdered by a homophobic tenant. SF ain’t so grand

by Anonymousreply 16805/04/2018

[quote] Do trans people not realize how violent, intolerant, and crazy this “art exhibit” makes them look?

I'm guessing some of them don't care. It's pretty clear that some of them believe that coercing, raping, and killing non-trans women is completely acceptable.

by Anonymousreply 16905/04/2018

Can you imagine if a gay man or a "cis" woman ever had murdered a trans woman the way Dana Rivers did to that poor lesbian couple? We would have been treated to a thousand think pieces on "gay transphobia". Because a t-woman did the vicious murder they just plain ignored it.

by Anonymousreply 17005/04/2018

R168, yes, we have lists and lists of their documented insanity and it's NOT MAKING A DENT. I don't know what world I'm living in where people can look at these many examples of hatred and turn a blind eye towards that particular community because of PC SJW bullshit. THAT is how I know this shit is dangerous. Doesn't matter that it's an tiny milli-percentage of the population, they are brainwashing the young and cowing the older. The last time this happened, I believe the group was called, um, Nazis?

by Anonymousreply 17105/04/2018

I know, R171, that is exactly what it reminds me of. When you look at the anti-Jewish posters and propaganda of the Nazi era, it was so ugly and hateful and very obvious. And it was out in the public.

I can't believe that not one person from the library has spoken out against it. And the media is still not covering it. If this was any other group it would be on page one of the newspapers and get outraged coverage on every TV news show and network. That there is nothing is as disgusting as this psychotic display.

by Anonymousreply 17205/04/2018

What does Ellen Pao have to say?

by Anonymousreply 17305/04/2018

And who the fuck is doing all the speaking for the “trans” community? TRANS WOMEN (meaning, men).

Where are the TRANS MEN? Do THEY condone this exhibit? Do the Degenderettes speak for trans men? Why not? Oh, right: they’re women.

by Anonymousreply 17405/04/2018

“Trans men” are truly some of the dumbest fucks out there. They think their cut off breasts and wispy chin pubes finally gets them in the boys club, but men- including trans women- will only ever view them as female.

And yet they stand by these guys and promote this agenda for shit all in return.

by Anonymousreply 17505/04/2018

Bump

by Anonymousreply 17605/05/2018

The sad truth is that gays and lesbians now need to arm themselves and take greater precautions regarding their safety in order to defend themselves from these kind of violent individuals. It's even sadder that the Left is increasingly made up of people who have embraced violent and homophobic philosophies and perspectives. Remember, you don't have to tolerate people who believe they have the right to rape you.

by Anonymousreply 17705/05/2018

And at the time when gays and lesbians are under greater danger, the extreme left is doing their best to create wedges between the gay community and services like the police - for example Toronto where they forced the police out of the parade, etc.

by Anonymousreply 17805/06/2018

Very sexually violent.

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by Anonymousreply 17905/06/2018

R128 Doesn't need our validation, apparently. Good. I hope she takes the same view with her doctor. Because medical professionals shouldn't be forced to enable a hetero woman's delusion that she's a gay man.

Drop it Aiden [Ty, Fox....], stop playing a homophobic caricature of gay men, and stop taking out your internalized misogyny on lesbians and other women.

by Anonymousreply 18005/06/2018

R152, Old Lez, thank you for everything you've said. People need to know the real, tangible effect these militant and aggressive Trans radicals are having on lesbians. You do not deserve to be attacked by anyone. You've said and done nothing wrong. I'm not very huggy IRL but how's a huggy-kind-of-warm-handshake, and a message saying how much you're appreciated?

by Anonymousreply 18105/06/2018

Old lez is a stupid old cunt and I'm glad somebody made her cry on this thread. How has this old bitch managed to survive all these years if some anonymous posts on a message board made her weep?

by Anonymousreply 18205/06/2018

Semi-literate trans hagette R182, she didn't say a forum comment made her cry. Keep it up though, you're a prime example of Tumblrgender insanity. Thanks for showing everyone what you transtrender activists are like.

by Anonymousreply 18305/07/2018

You're a real fetid oozing cunt, R182. Old lez seems to be a good sort, unlike you.

by Anonymousreply 18405/07/2018

[quote] You're a real fetid oozing trans wound

Fixed that for you.

by Anonymousreply 18505/07/2018

R158, those statistics don't show that misgendering is literally violence.

by Anonymousreply 18605/07/2018

TBH.

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by Anonymousreply 18705/07/2018

Bump

by Anonymousreply 18805/10/2018

Reading the DL incel thread reminds me of this, because it's kind of the same: These violent transgender "lesbians" are warped heterosexual men who hate women, yet want to have sex with them (and in some weird way, want to be women and are just rage-filled that they aren't and can't).

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by Anonymousreply 18905/10/2018

Is the exhibit still up?

by Anonymousreply 19005/16/2018

Yep, R190.

by Anonymousreply 19105/16/2018

I guess SF is more ignorant and hateful than Texas or Alabama.

by Anonymousreply 19205/16/2018
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