“Rabbi Zvi Gluck, founder of the New York-based Amudim, an international crisis intervention organization that serves the Orthodox population, said there have been 277 confirmed deaths of Orthodox Jews under age 35 due to opioid overdoses in the region. He believes there are more that have not been acknowledged. His group alone, since its founding in 2014, has served over 4,000 clients.”
No group is immune: Orthodox Jewish Family Speaks Out about Opioid Abuse
by Anonymous | reply 47 | April 30, 2018 5:43 PM |
Why do all Orthodox Jewish women have the same hair style? New York is full of Jewish women with that brown bob.
by Anonymous | reply 1 | April 23, 2018 11:49 PM |
Because they are wearing wigs!
by Anonymous | reply 2 | April 23, 2018 11:53 PM |
What ignorance.
by Anonymous | reply 3 | April 23, 2018 11:56 PM |
R1, because they have to shave their slutty tempting-men-to-sin HAIR when they marry. They cover their bald heads with wigs.
Which is illogical. It’s like vegans wearing fake fur or vegetarians eating tofu dogs. If the real thing is bad, why is a facsimile okay?
by Anonymous | reply 4 | April 23, 2018 11:57 PM |
Not true they "have to shave their...... hair" Ridiculous analogies you try to provide too.
by Anonymous | reply 5 | April 24, 2018 12:01 AM |
Wigs are not Orthodox married ladies' only choice. Some where a scarf, hats, or a snood. It all primarily depends on one's rabbi. Many Orthodox rabbis think the longer sheitels are actually not "Tznius", or modest. It really runs the gamut; then you have Orthodox (moderns) like Ivanka who never cover their heads.
by Anonymous | reply 7 | April 24, 2018 12:15 AM |
How would a wig be modest but their real hair isn't? Makes no sense.
by Anonymous | reply 8 | April 24, 2018 12:52 AM |
It doesn't have to make sense to you R8, as you are not an Orthodox married woman I presume.
by Anonymous | reply 9 | April 24, 2018 1:05 AM |
How would YOU know, r9?
by Anonymous | reply 10 | April 24, 2018 1:08 AM |
R8 I highly doubt we have Orthodox straight married females posting here. Homosexuality is not supported in their tradition or their community. The mere idea of going on this forum is not in keeping with the idea of Tznius, or Tzniot. Modesty involves much more than clothes or hair. It is very concerned with how things appear to the rest of the Orthodox community. If you WERE Jewish, and Orthodox you would understand that. You also would be familiar with The Shulchan Aruch, and therefore have no reason for your post. (that is how I know)
by Anonymous | reply 11 | April 24, 2018 4:21 AM |
Another day, another DL shit on the Jews thread.
by Anonymous | reply 12 | April 24, 2018 4:24 AM |
R9 that is how you ASSume.
by Anonymous | reply 13 | April 24, 2018 6:36 AM |
A Jewish friend explained that Orthodox women wear wigs because if they covered their heads with scarves, people might confuse them for muslims.
by Anonymous | reply 14 | April 24, 2018 6:42 AM |
Why is "Jews can get addicted to heroin, too" some kind of revelation?
by Anonymous | reply 15 | April 24, 2018 10:39 AM |
R15 because “God’s chosen ones” are supposedly superior to the rest of us.
by Anonymous | reply 16 | April 24, 2018 10:48 AM |
Ivanka is NOT an Orthodox Jew. She's a converted-for-convenience-sake fake Jewess, who converted solely to get at Jared Kushner's family money. Nothing more.
by Anonymous | reply 17 | April 24, 2018 10:53 AM |
[quote] I highly doubt we have Orthodox straight married females posting here. Homosexuality is not supported in their tradition or their community.
Which is all the more reason to expect we DO have Orthodox straight married females posting here. As in all religions, most of the follower's professed beliefs in public, and what they do in private, are two very different things.
by Anonymous | reply 18 | April 24, 2018 11:00 AM |
[quote] How would a wig be modest but their real hair isn't? Makes no sense.
It's just one more sick religious rule devised by males to keep females as subservient and docile as possible. The Orthodox Jewish religion is just one rung higher on the ladder of weird faiths above radical Islam.
by Anonymous | reply 19 | April 24, 2018 11:03 AM |
R15 I think you purposefully misrepresent the point of the article. What is somewhat eye-opening, though to your point not terribly shocking as addiction is an equal opportunity affliction, is that the traditionally very devout and temple-going Orthodox community is also experiencing opiate addictions and deaths. It is unsurprising that Jewish people writ large are affected by the opiate epidemic. It is somewhat surprising though that the Orthodox community specifically is similarly affected.
by Anonymous | reply 20 | April 24, 2018 11:15 AM |
R8 It’s another version of a headscarf that Muslim women wear. There are a lot of similarities between the 2 religions since they are from the same area of the world.
by Anonymous | reply 21 | April 24, 2018 12:14 PM |
Those two in OP’s photo are fat. They really should promote Anti-Obesity instead.
Of course, then they’d have to be an example and lose weight...
Fat chance.
by Anonymous | reply 22 | April 24, 2018 12:21 PM |
All women must cover up for modesty.
by Anonymous | reply 23 | April 24, 2018 12:32 PM |
R18/R13/R10 If younare Orthodox just day so... Enough with the fey games. If you are you certainly are either a new convert, BT, or a Modern like Ivanka, otherwise you would understand why some wear sheitels. That is why I don't take you for a Jew, let alone Orthodox.
by Anonymous | reply 24 | April 24, 2018 12:40 PM |
Many Amish communities are experiencing the same outbreaks. It looks like the the pattern is the same. Isolated communities who assume they are immune to the ills of society. They are equipped to recognize drug abuse in their children nor are they equipped to deal with it.
by Anonymous | reply 25 | April 24, 2018 1:37 PM |
Interestingly, DLers go on and on about how women having to wear a covering in orthodox Islam is just sexist, evil, etc.
Now that we see orthodox Judaism requires basically the same thing, there's just a smattering of naysayers. No countries are passing laws to stop it. No one is treating these women differently.
by Anonymous | reply 26 | April 24, 2018 1:55 PM |
R26 Stop conflating things in an hysterical manner. No one the world over objects to scarves or hats. or wigs for that matter. Most Catholic woman once covered their heads for mass up until some point in the sixties too. What western societies do object to are Burkas.... Whole body hot constrictive coverings from head to foot. A niqab, or even a chador do not bother many in the west. Other than the Burka, I think we all are putt off by the Abayas Niqab, where there is only a small slit for the woman's eyes. These have absolutely nothing in common with Orthodox Jews. Orthodox Jewish women could wear a bandana and get away with it. The false analogy you are desperate to create does not work. Is this some subtle troll-like way to equate Judaism with Islam?
by Anonymous | reply 27 | April 24, 2018 2:14 PM |
R17 We may not like Ivanka, but her status was settled by numerous rabbis who know more than you. Ivanka converted under an Orthodox rabbi, and her conversion is recognised by the rabbinate in Israel. She keeps Kosher, keeps the Sabbath, and follows all the rules and restrictions applicable to their Modern Orthodox sect. Therefore Jewish. As Jews, we make no distinction between converts and born Jews. If we do not, whatever gives you the authority to claim she is NOT a Jew?
by Anonymous | reply 28 | April 24, 2018 2:26 PM |
She is not a Jew because SHE DOES NOT HAVE JEWISH BLOOD RUNNING THROUGH HER VEINS. She's just a Jew in name only. She's a "pretend Jew", nothing more. Just like all converts. If she had married a rich Jehovah's Witness or a rich Mormon she'd be a pretend JW or LDS now. The bitch converted because that's the only way she could marry that little puke, and certainly not because she believed any of the Jewish teachings.
by Anonymous | reply 29 | April 24, 2018 3:04 PM |
In college, I asked one of the Orthodox fellows what was with their women and hair and he said they did in Europe to put off the landowner from droit de seignuer.
by Anonymous | reply 30 | April 24, 2018 3:56 PM |
Ivanka's children will be Jewish by birth.
by Anonymous | reply 31 | April 24, 2018 10:59 PM |
R24 I suggest that you invest in a thesaurus and look up the word anonymous.
by Anonymous | reply 32 | April 25, 2018 12:22 AM |
R29 You sound hostile and ignorant, not a winning combo might I add! I suppose you don't consider children adopted and raised Jewish as "real" Jews either. I could respect an intellectual argument suggesting Modern Orthodox are not really quite "ORTHODOX " but to claim she isn't Jewish by virtue of a bloodline is quite silly. She will never be of Hebrew or Sephardic, or Ashkenazi descent, but she is Jewish nonetheless. You would be very disappointed to learn most "Jewish" mothers from European Jewish families have at least 60% Southern Italian Mitochondrial DNA. That's quite a lot of admixture to be basing status of Jewishness on a bloodline.
by Anonymous | reply 33 | April 25, 2018 12:27 AM |
R1, did you seriously not know they wear wigs?
by Anonymous | reply 34 | April 25, 2018 12:29 AM |
[quote]Another day, another DL shit on the Jews thread.
Wow are you thin-skinned.
Considering all of the posts prior to yours were incredibly mild, WTF are you even talking about? God, you're so self-centered when you know damned well there are threads where vicious things are being said about black people, Asians and Muslims. You probably participate in those.
Joy Reid is currently being referred to as a "gorilla" and worse is being said about black people in general, and you're whining because people are talking about WIGS?
by Anonymous | reply 35 | April 25, 2018 12:45 AM |
r15- I'm assuming it's opioid based painkillers.
by Anonymous | reply 36 | April 25, 2018 12:50 AM |
Used to meet Orthodox men on the fringes of Prospect Park at Grand Army Plaza for a little frolic in the bushes.
by Anonymous | reply 37 | April 25, 2018 12:52 AM |
Oy, what is wrong with you young people? Illegal drugs...
Why not go for a lovely walk and do some window-shopping? A little gelato, maybe?
by Anonymous | reply 38 | April 25, 2018 12:58 AM |
[quote] Ivanka's children will be Jewish by birth.
Yes, unfortunately for them they have their putrid father's Jewish blood in their veins. I'm still shocked the bitch was willing to carry them herself rather than hire a surrogate implanted with her egg fertilized by Jared's fetid spunk.
by Anonymous | reply 39 | April 25, 2018 2:11 AM |
Ivanka. Her kids won’t be considered “real” Jews anyway, because Jewishness is bestowed by the mother. And she’s not a “real” Jew. All the rabbis can pronounce her one, but socially, culturally she’s not. And never will be.
They might be heroin addicts one day, though. (Not that I wish that on innocent — for now — kids)
by Anonymous | reply 40 | April 25, 2018 2:34 AM |
R35 - don't forget OP started a thread about opiate addiction in the Orthodox Jewish community. What does the thread become about? Wigs. Like R1 couldn't have googled the subject.
R36 - the first story in the link is about a someone becoming addicted to heroin.
R15 - Did you read the link? You seem to have missed the point.
by Anonymous | reply 41 | April 25, 2018 9:21 PM |
Are their opioids kosher?
by Anonymous | reply 42 | April 25, 2018 10:32 PM |
[quote] Many Orthodox rabbis think the longer sheitels are actually not "Tznius", or modest. It really runs the gamut; then you have Orthodox (moderns) like Ivanka who never cover their heads.
ivanka and jared are NOT orthodox. I know they say they are, but they're lying about it. The only thing they do is keep a Kosher kitchen and observe the Sabbath. That's not even close to being Orthodox
by Anonymous | reply 43 | April 30, 2018 4:02 AM |
WTF? The women have to shave their heads, and the men grow their hair to wear those stupid-looking, curly sideburns? Give me a fucking break. Fucked up religion. And they mutilate too.
by Anonymous | reply 44 | April 30, 2018 7:27 AM |
R44 - Religion poisons everything
by Anonymous | reply 45 | April 30, 2018 7:40 AM |
R43 -Orthodox practices are full of work arounds - maybe the Trumps are just better at it than you? Eruv anyone?
by Anonymous | reply 46 | April 30, 2018 4:53 PM |
There used to be a video store on the corner of 17th St. and 8th Ave. in NYC there was a Hasidim who would loiter in the Gay porn section.
by Anonymous | reply 47 | April 30, 2018 5:43 PM |