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Bye-Bye, Babs! The Official Barbara Bush Funeral Thread

I have my tissue ready

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by Anonymousreply 453April 26, 2018 9:37 AM

First ruination

Donald J. Trump Verified account @realDonaldTrump @realDonaldTrump

Heading to the Southern White House to watch the Funeral Service of Barbara Bush. First Lady Melania has arrived in Houston to pay our respects. Will be a beautiful day!

BUT!

President Obama has to sit right next to Melanie...err, Melody... err, what's that gal's name? You know who.

by Anonymousreply 1April 21, 2018 3:55 PM

Tissue, please...

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by Anonymousreply 2April 21, 2018 3:58 PM

Melania's dressed for hours of pounding clothes with rocks down by the river.

by Anonymousreply 3April 21, 2018 3:59 PM

If only Nancy were alive to perform the casket dance...

by Anonymousreply 4April 21, 2018 4:00 PM

The choir is lovely.

by Anonymousreply 5April 21, 2018 4:00 PM

Sweet jesus they sang four choruses of God Save the Queen.... of course with different words, but still.....

by Anonymousreply 6April 21, 2018 4:01 PM

Melania T is seated right next to President Obama. He seemed to be kindly trying to engage her in conversation before the service began, and I'm sure he was kind. She seems kind of lost.

by Anonymousreply 7April 21, 2018 4:02 PM

"Ees Jarj Vasheengton daid? No?"

--confused Melania

by Anonymousreply 8April 21, 2018 4:03 PM

[quote]Sweet jesus they sang four choruses of God Save the Queen....

A slap to Nancy Reagan.

by Anonymousreply 9April 21, 2018 4:04 PM

Where's the coffin?

by Anonymousreply 10April 21, 2018 4:04 PM

Thank God they put Melania at the opposite end of the pew of former presidents/wives from Hillary. We wouldn't want a brouhaha to break out during the funeral.

by Anonymousreply 11April 21, 2018 4:04 PM

Are the Carters too frail to attend?

by Anonymousreply 12April 21, 2018 4:05 PM

So Chelsea, Caroline Kennedy and Patricia Nixon Cox and her husband Ed are there. So is that vile bastard Rumsfeld and I haven't seen Cheney but I bet he's there. Condi, of course. I'm surprised Colin Powell isn't there.

Melania is sitting next to Barack and he is chatting away. Very gracious to her. She looked very nervous flying solo. But I'm glad she has the exposure to the larger world so she can fully appreciate what a loser her husband and his crowd are. If Brbara Bush were living she would tell Melania to leave that fucking traitor.

by Anonymousreply 13April 21, 2018 4:05 PM

Hi boysch in the choir!

by Anonymousreply 14April 21, 2018 4:05 PM

Jimmy is traveling abroad, and Rosalyn is home recovering from intestinal surgery.

by Anonymousreply 15April 21, 2018 4:06 PM

Any Hollywood celebs present?

by Anonymousreply 16April 21, 2018 4:07 PM

I hope Babs's zombie corpse reanimates and smites Rumsfeld.

by Anonymousreply 17April 21, 2018 4:07 PM

Here come the angelsh

by Anonymousreply 18April 21, 2018 4:08 PM

Jim McGrath Verified account @jgm41 @jgm41

To honor his wife of 73 years and her commitment to family literacy, for which she raised over $110 million over the course of over 30 years, @GeorgeHWBush will be wearing a pair of socks festooned with books at today’s funeral service for former First Lady Barbara Bush.

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by Anonymousreply 19April 21, 2018 4:08 PM

I hae a v ision og Barbara Bush in a voluminous gown, floating over the assembled, and lifting up her skirts to piss all over Dick Cheney.

by Anonymousreply 20April 21, 2018 4:08 PM

HA! An entrance!!!

It's MY party, honey!

by Anonymousreply 21April 21, 2018 4:10 PM

r20 Melania will get triggered.

by Anonymousreply 22April 21, 2018 4:10 PM

Okay, there's the coffin. At Catholic funeral masses, the coffin is rolled in right before the service begins with the family behind it.

by Anonymousreply 23April 21, 2018 4:10 PM

Please wake me for the casket dance.

by Anonymousreply 24April 21, 2018 4:11 PM

A time to rid the world of Bushes

by Anonymousreply 25April 21, 2018 4:11 PM

More tissue, please

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by Anonymousreply 26April 21, 2018 4:13 PM

Wasn't she always known as "Bar," not Babs?

She had other nicknames here on DL, of course, but not appropriate to the occasion.

by Anonymousreply 27April 21, 2018 4:13 PM

Oh please

by Anonymousreply 28April 21, 2018 4:13 PM

Nancy Reagan's funeral had more pomp and pageantry.

by Anonymousreply 29April 21, 2018 4:14 PM

You now a lot of people are only watching to see who' there. I wish the cameras would cooperate. I don't care about some hymn singing bullshit.

by Anonymousreply 30April 21, 2018 4:15 PM

Not sure the Carters made it. Rosalyn recently had surgery and Jimmy is frail as well.

by Anonymousreply 31April 21, 2018 4:16 PM

Meanwhile, Laura Bush looked a little giddy at the prospect of now being mother-in-law free.

by Anonymousreply 32April 21, 2018 4:17 PM

Bar and George are a good example of population explosion. All those Bush breeders in just one lifetime.

by Anonymousreply 33April 21, 2018 4:17 PM
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by Anonymousreply 34April 21, 2018 4:17 PM

So as you can see I, the Vairst Leddy, am here. I am in Texas. I am even sitted with the Presidents and other Vairst Letties. I am beink friends and nice wid them.

So when my President collapses on the gulf course from somethink he ate, no one will even think to say it could be me. Everyone knows poison is a Ruskie thing.

by Anonymousreply 35April 21, 2018 4:17 PM

I chosed theece becuz it is tastefull

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by Anonymousreply 36April 21, 2018 4:17 PM

[quote]She Was A Lovely Lady

That's a man, baby.

by Anonymousreply 37April 21, 2018 4:17 PM

Is Tony Blair there?

by Anonymousreply 38April 21, 2018 4:17 PM

I'm impressed the Bush family opted for a private funeral and burial. No lying in state at the presidential library with honor guards and an American-flagged draped coffin.

by Anonymousreply 39April 21, 2018 4:18 PM

R26, usually I'm a cynic but that is very sweet. Thanks for posting.

by Anonymousreply 40April 21, 2018 4:18 PM

Frau after frau

by Anonymousreply 41April 21, 2018 4:19 PM

"In the Garden." What an exquisite song. My mother's favorite song on any genre. We sang it at her funeral three weeks ago.😿😿😿

Damn, the Bush granddaughters are reading the same selection we had at my mom's funeral.😿😿

Not sure how much more of this i can watch.

by Anonymousreply 42April 21, 2018 4:19 PM

[quote]I hope Babs's zombie corpse reanimates and smites Rumsfeld.

Abraham Lincoln, Vampire Hunter, and Baarbara Bush, Zombie Trumpslayer, would make a good comic book.

by Anonymousreply 43April 21, 2018 4:20 PM

On of the Bush girls is supposed to be beautiful, right?

by Anonymousreply 44April 21, 2018 4:20 PM

Jenna Bush looks so much like her mom

by Anonymousreply 45April 21, 2018 4:20 PM

No beauties in the Bush family.

by Anonymousreply 46April 21, 2018 4:21 PM

Every First Lady has had projects. WTF has Melania done?

by Anonymousreply 47April 21, 2018 4:22 PM

I didn't know they had a lesbian Hispanic granddaughter. I assume that big one is one of Jeb's kids. She seems a little, uh.............special.

by Anonymousreply 48April 21, 2018 4:23 PM

I think even Trump knows enough not to tweet anything during the funeral, but would love to see him blow a gasket about something he saw during the coverage and live tweet his feelings.

Melania is against bullying R47- still not sure if that was blatant trolling on Trump's part or not.

by Anonymousreply 49April 21, 2018 4:23 PM

"Here was a woman, as Richard Nixon once said, who truly knew how to hate..."

by Anonymousreply 50April 21, 2018 4:23 PM

Melania is working on "bullying" r47. She needs to start at home.

by Anonymousreply 51April 21, 2018 4:24 PM

I'm still waiting for the ground to open and suck down that casket.

by Anonymousreply 52April 21, 2018 4:25 PM

I am no fan of the Bushes in general, but I have a big intellectual crush on Jon Meacham. The hot one among pundit presidential historians, a liberal in the old sense, and a trump hater.

by Anonymousreply 53April 21, 2018 4:26 PM

Meacham: And she was a massive cunt.

by Anonymousreply 54April 21, 2018 4:27 PM

If I remember correctly, there were no tv cameras inside the NYC catholic church (St. Ignatius) where Jackie O's funeral was held. Audio was transmitted to the crowd and world outside.

by Anonymousreply 55April 21, 2018 4:29 PM

[quote]I assume that big one is one of Jeb's kids.

Yes, she's one of the little brown ones.

by Anonymousreply 56April 21, 2018 4:29 PM

It was just as I imagined

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by Anonymousreply 57April 21, 2018 4:29 PM

Not one Reagan present?

by Anonymousreply 58April 21, 2018 4:30 PM

Thish eulogy doeshn't have pizhazzsh.for heavensh shake.

by Anonymousreply 59April 21, 2018 4:30 PM

Bush family has vocal fry

by Anonymousreply 60April 21, 2018 4:31 PM

The church seats 1300

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by Anonymousreply 61April 21, 2018 4:32 PM

John Major is attending, not Blair.

Jenna's sister's dress is black but highly-inappropriate.

by Anonymousreply 62April 21, 2018 4:32 PM

Some of those granddaughters are dressed like they're going directly on a hot date after the service.

by Anonymousreply 63April 21, 2018 4:33 PM

Namesake granddaughter Barbara is sort of dressed for a night out at a club.

by Anonymousreply 64April 21, 2018 4:33 PM

I loved that JT Pace/Barbara Bush story that Meacham recounted

by Anonymousreply 65April 21, 2018 4:34 PM

Barbara Bush the granddaughter, has 'ho shoes on.

Actually, I think Jenna is pretty. Her face has gotten fatter as she ages, but she still is pretty, and yes looks a lot like her mother.

by Anonymousreply 66April 21, 2018 4:34 PM

Where is Ivanka?

by Anonymousreply 67April 21, 2018 4:34 PM

Whores

by Anonymousreply 68April 21, 2018 4:34 PM

That line that Meachem said about Barbara telling the nurse she drank and smoked when she was pregnant with W really made me laugh.

by Anonymousreply 69April 21, 2018 4:35 PM

i wonder who was sent to represent the Johnsons, Carters and Fords?

by Anonymousreply 70April 21, 2018 4:36 PM

Hilary, to Richard Nixon's everlasting hatred during his remaining days, did not bother to attend Pat Nion's funeral.

So Melania deserves credit, and that is just an unknown example of why Hilary is hated by so many. The flaws in her character cannot be denied.

by Anonymousreply 71April 21, 2018 4:36 PM

I haven’t seen Melania do shit about bullying. What a joke.

by Anonymousreply 72April 21, 2018 4:36 PM

Fuck off troll

by Anonymousreply 73April 21, 2018 4:37 PM

Will the heir apparent to the presidency, Jeb's son George P Bush (known as "P") have a role?

He's a rising star in Texas politics

by Anonymousreply 74April 21, 2018 4:37 PM

R67 hopefully nowhere near

by Anonymousreply 75April 21, 2018 4:38 PM

The Latino?

by Anonymousreply 76April 21, 2018 4:38 PM

Here, bitch. That'll teach you to skip my inauguration.

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by Anonymousreply 77April 21, 2018 4:38 PM

[quote]Where is Ivanka?

Melania probably put her foot down and told her that she can't be the FLOTUS all of the time.

by Anonymousreply 78April 21, 2018 4:39 PM

Susan Sugarbaker. Any relation?

by Anonymousreply 79April 21, 2018 4:40 PM

I'm waiting for Bar to rise out of her coffin like a bloodthirsty vampire.

by Anonymousreply 80April 21, 2018 4:40 PM

I can’t believe how much I disliked all Bush terms comparing to current situation.

by Anonymousreply 81April 21, 2018 4:40 PM

[quote]Will the heir apparent to the presidency, Jeb's son George P Bush (known as "P") have a role? He's a rising star in Texas politics

He's a Trump sniffer, debasing himself for orange's endorsement.

by Anonymousreply 82April 21, 2018 4:41 PM

Poor Bar, such a boring service and she had her evil claws all over it.

by Anonymousreply 83April 21, 2018 4:41 PM

FUN FACT: Both Bushes, Clinton and Obama will attend Barbara Bush’s funeral today. It’s only for family members or Presidents that won the popular vote.

by Anonymousreply 84April 21, 2018 4:41 PM
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by Anonymousreply 85April 21, 2018 4:42 PM

The granddaughter looked like a whore!

by Anonymousreply 86April 21, 2018 4:42 PM

Heifer Bar

by Anonymousreply 87April 21, 2018 4:43 PM

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by Anonymousreply 88April 21, 2018 4:44 PM

Exactly,r81. As bad as the Bushes were, they were nowhere near as bad as the current crew in the White House. At least they respected rules and norms that had been in place for generations before.

by Anonymousreply 89April 21, 2018 4:44 PM

Melania wonders what she should have for dinner.

by Anonymousreply 90April 21, 2018 4:45 PM

Who's going to go to the funeral of Melansthia's husband? Scott Baio and Rosanne Barr?

by Anonymousreply 91April 21, 2018 4:46 PM

George W will never be forgiven for the Iraq war.

by Anonymousreply 92April 21, 2018 4:47 PM

Shomeone should do a good schong and dansch.

by Anonymousreply 93April 21, 2018 4:48 PM

Are the Quayles there?

by Anonymousreply 94April 21, 2018 4:49 PM

Jenna Bush Hager impersonate her own grandmother, Barbara Bush

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by Anonymousreply 95April 21, 2018 4:49 PM

Earlier this week my husband and I were talking about what a CUNT Barbara Bush proved herself to be over and over. Then the other night I was reading a CNN story written by one of her former detail agents, and started getting a little nostalgic for my own mom and other larger-than-life women like them who are now gone. So I posted something really nice and respectful on my FB page. Today my husband said "Where did that come from, weren't we just talking about what a nasty woman she was?"

I said well I know, but praise in public especially at someone's funeral. And as much as I dislike that family they are mourning. So now I'm here reading the comments and pretending we're eating church lady food and gossiping about the family and everyone else.

Goodbye, Bar, you old complicated cunt. Finally the portal to hell that was your vagina is sealed.

by Anonymousreply 96April 21, 2018 4:51 PM

What about the mistress?

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by Anonymousreply 97April 21, 2018 4:53 PM

The spray on that coffin is to die for!

Opps.

by Anonymousreply 98April 21, 2018 4:54 PM

Who invited that Slavic whore to my funeral??

by Anonymousreply 99April 21, 2018 4:55 PM

How many mics does that priest need?

by Anonymousreply 100April 21, 2018 4:55 PM

Melania looked downright cheerful early on. Happier at a funeral than when she's with her husband. Ha.

by Anonymousreply 101April 21, 2018 4:56 PM

The Episcopalians do it well, right?

The old joke is that they are just like Catholics, except richer and less guilty.

by Anonymousreply 102April 21, 2018 4:57 PM

Priest loves h er Revlon #42 medium brown.

by Anonymousreply 103April 21, 2018 4:57 PM

Of course Melania looked cheerful- she's next to a cute guy for a change.

by Anonymousreply 104April 21, 2018 4:58 PM

Another beautiful mind to cavort with the angels!

by Anonymousreply 105April 21, 2018 4:59 PM

Jeb was inspiring as usual.

by Anonymousreply 106April 21, 2018 4:59 PM

Oh please Melania i screams whore amongst johns.

by Anonymousreply 107April 21, 2018 5:00 PM

I did not see Michelle or either Clinton interact with Mellie. But I do believe they were probably cordial to her. Even if her husband as insisting on another Clinton investigation.

by Anonymousreply 108April 21, 2018 5:00 PM

And have better booze, r102.

by Anonymousreply 109April 21, 2018 5:01 PM

Is there going to be a luncheon afterwards?

by Anonymousreply 110April 21, 2018 5:01 PM

"Barbara Bush's story has just begun again."

Dear God!

by Anonymousreply 111April 21, 2018 5:03 PM

What a scam all this religiosity.

by Anonymousreply 112April 21, 2018 5:03 PM

Ooh, shinging ish coming!

by Anonymousreply 113April 21, 2018 5:04 PM

[quote]It’s only for family members or Presidents that won the popular vote.

Then shouldn't Al Gore be there?

by Anonymousreply 114April 21, 2018 5:05 PM

Isn't this the part where W starts to shuffle, and Michelle has to tranquilize him?

by Anonymousreply 115April 21, 2018 5:05 PM

Liza, I can see your entrance now.

by Anonymousreply 116April 21, 2018 5:05 PM

Was Bar really that into Jesus?

by Anonymousreply 117April 21, 2018 5:06 PM

I like British doings much better. I keep waiting to hear the strains of "I Vow to Thee my Country..." but instead we get the very trite Amazing Grace. I like Amazing Grace, but when the Brits are in church, they play classical music and sing rousing hymns like Guide Me O Thou Great Redeemer. it's really quite fabulous!

by Anonymousreply 118April 21, 2018 5:06 PM

True

by Anonymousreply 119April 21, 2018 5:07 PM

😿 R42 My condolences.....My mom died early this year, and today would have been her 96th birthday.

by Anonymousreply 120April 21, 2018 5:07 PM

Oh God, they're singing a melody.

by Anonymousreply 121April 21, 2018 5:07 PM

She was never a Bible thumper, r117, but the Bushes have been members of that congregation for decades.

Barbara Bush supported a local charity that saved my life, so I'm withholding my usual snark.

by Anonymousreply 122April 21, 2018 5:09 PM

I'M sure Barbara Bush planned every detail of her duneral. It is her prerogative.

I'm Catlokic. I did not know Episcopalians also drape the baptismal pall over the casket

by Anonymousreply 123April 21, 2018 5:09 PM

Mass was better in Latin when we didn't understand the insipid text.

by Anonymousreply 124April 21, 2018 5:10 PM

is the Texas Tornado Tanya Tucker there?

by Anonymousreply 125April 21, 2018 5:10 PM

I don't want much at my service, and I'm not that religious, but Ave Maria (Gounod arrangement) will be on the playlist. It has made me cry at every Catholic funeral, and some secular funerals, for like 20 years. My grandmothers loved it, and my mother loved it, so yeah.

by Anonymousreply 126April 21, 2018 5:11 PM

Will there be a funeral train?

by Anonymousreply 127April 21, 2018 5:11 PM

Yes, R123. Fabric would be good scarf.

by Anonymousreply 128April 21, 2018 5:11 PM

[quote]I'M sure Barbara Bush planned every detail of her duneral.

The Priest, Reverend, Pastor, or what ever said they planned the funeral together 3 weeks ago. That means she probably demanded that Trump not be invited

by Anonymousreply 129April 21, 2018 5:12 PM

[quote]I'm Catlokic

Dipping into the wine a little early today?

by Anonymousreply 130April 21, 2018 5:12 PM

R101 Melania would have looked even happier if her husband was in the big box near the altar.

She'd have to hide her face under a red veil to conceal her smiling face.

by Anonymousreply 131April 21, 2018 5:13 PM

Bush frauen every where

by Anonymousreply 132April 21, 2018 5:13 PM

This priest is very into his own performance.

by Anonymousreply 133April 21, 2018 5:14 PM

It is his 15-minutes of fame.

by Anonymousreply 134April 21, 2018 5:15 PM

Here come the long horns

by Anonymousreply 135April 21, 2018 5:16 PM

We would surely love you to come, but of course we need to know immediately if you want to make that choice, for security reasons. The First Lady or any other designate would be fine. Let us know.

Sincerely,

The Family that wants you to decline

by Anonymousreply 136April 21, 2018 5:16 PM

He looks fitfat. I'd like to see under that robe.

by Anonymousreply 137April 21, 2018 5:16 PM

That was a relatively short funeral. That's how it should be.

by Anonymousreply 138April 21, 2018 5:17 PM

Over already?

by Anonymousreply 139April 21, 2018 5:17 PM

[quote]Over already?

Protestant funerals are much like Protestant sex.

by Anonymousreply 140April 21, 2018 5:19 PM

They spun her around and are rolling her up the aisle.

I bet W has s toot waiting in the limo.

by Anonymousreply 141April 21, 2018 5:19 PM

Beautiful production!

by Anonymousreply 142April 21, 2018 5:19 PM

Reminds you there are decent Christians. They're known as Episcopalians.

by Anonymousreply 143April 21, 2018 5:20 PM

Yea, OK, that was nice.

by Anonymousreply 144April 21, 2018 5:20 PM

[quote] So Melania deserves credit, and that is just an unknown example of why Hilary is hated by so many. The flaws in her character cannot be denied.

Hilarious! You think a liar and a plagiarist has character? You Trumpsters are beyond pathetic.

by Anonymousreply 145April 21, 2018 5:20 PM

That was a lovely, touching, and meaningful service.

Jealous, Bitches ?

by Anonymousreply 146April 21, 2018 5:20 PM

Yes, i was baptized as one

by Anonymousreply 147April 21, 2018 5:21 PM

For anyone wanting to watch it here is a link to youtube.

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by Anonymousreply 148April 21, 2018 5:22 PM

(CLAP!)

Okay! What's for lunch?

by Anonymousreply 149April 21, 2018 5:24 PM

I'm surprised that Donnie didn't send his Personal Pit Bull Sara Huckaboob Sanders to keep an eye on Melania.

by Anonymousreply 150April 21, 2018 5:27 PM

Chelsea Clinton was there. Classy. And apparently some extended family from the Ford and Nixon tribes?

by Anonymousreply 151April 21, 2018 5:27 PM

Texas Barbeque in the parking lot r149

by Anonymousreply 152April 21, 2018 5:28 PM

George P Bush is NOT aging well! He was HOT at one time

by Anonymousreply 153April 21, 2018 5:32 PM

Ivanka, it turns out, has been looking for the gifting room this entire time and missed it all.

by Anonymousreply 154April 21, 2018 5:32 PM

LOL they lifted the casket and the wheeled table almost took off down the sidewalk. Pall bearers are wobbly. George Sr. looks absolutely grief stricken. Damn, some of those grands DO look like hookers!

by Anonymousreply 155April 21, 2018 5:33 PM

Looked like George P as one of the pallbearers, and that he is losing his hair both in front and around the back. Oops.

by Anonymousreply 156April 21, 2018 5:34 PM

OK just wondering for the eldergays here, was Barbs all that great?

I've heard shit on the news this week like "with a wink and a nod, you knew she was on our side"

"Barbara was tough. She would let you know what she thought without hesitation"

What's so fucking great about this?

by Anonymousreply 157April 21, 2018 5:34 PM

Shades of Harold and Maude

by Anonymousreply 158April 21, 2018 5:34 PM

R120, so sorry. It's such a kick in the gut. Nothing like it. Try to do something in your mom's name and memory that will make you smile over the years. The 30th anniversary of my mother's death is nearing and the pain and loss never really goes away completely. I also worry for some crazy reason that I won't live past my mother's age at death. She was 30 years older than I am. Be well.

by Anonymousreply 159April 21, 2018 5:35 PM

It's hard NOT to be wobbly when you're a pallbearer. It's cumbersome and the body moves around in there.

by Anonymousreply 160April 21, 2018 5:36 PM

They strapped Bar down.

by Anonymousreply 161April 21, 2018 5:37 PM

Sam Donaldson is saying the Bush family is just a family of immigrants. So is Barbara's family, they came over on the Mayflower but she never talked about it. Just a regular American family that never made a big deal about their wealth.

Is he on drugs? What kind of bullshit is this?

by Anonymousreply 162April 21, 2018 5:39 PM

This is where Bar emerges from her coffin with super powers, grows to 50 feet tall and terrorizes Houston.

by Anonymousreply 163April 21, 2018 5:41 PM

R157 Regardless of any good that Bar did in the world, she also had a nasty, privileged mean streak.

So this motorcade is going all the way to College Station? There is an ambulance in it. Is that for George Sr.?

by Anonymousreply 164April 21, 2018 5:42 PM

Now that the service is over, she was known as Bar "Sea Hag" Bush on DL for many years. And her remarks after Hurricane Katrina refugees were bussed to Houston ("This is all working out quite well for them") will live in infamy.

by Anonymousreply 165April 21, 2018 5:42 PM

[quote]"Barbara was tough. She would let you know what she thought without hesitation" What's so fucking great about this?

You have to understand the times, R159. What many of you youngins' take for granted, and are just dismissive about, were really huge movements forward for our country. It's very true that there were mothers who would not hold their AIDS babies (or prevented from doing so) and so when Barbara Bush was determined to hold a baby and hug people afflicted with AIDS that was HUGE! It broke down A LOT of barriers and misconceptions. Many couldn't stand her husband but she was the country's grandmother.

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by Anonymousreply 166April 21, 2018 5:42 PM

What happens now exactly? Do all those big names just go home because they weren't invited to the burial?

by Anonymousreply 167April 21, 2018 5:42 PM

One of the family members was wearing black sleavless leather top? I must have seen wrong and I don’t know about fashion.

by Anonymousreply 168April 21, 2018 5:43 PM

[quote]Sam Donaldson

He's alive???

by Anonymousreply 169April 21, 2018 5:43 PM

Not to change the subject, but how would the Obamas have gotten there? They still fly on Government planes, or are the going to be sitting at Gate 16 waiting for their Untied flight later this afternoon? They have money now, but not private jet money, right?

I'd love to hear they hitched a ride with Melania--that would be quite a flight.

by Anonymousreply 170April 21, 2018 5:44 PM

BOO! LOL

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by Anonymousreply 171April 21, 2018 5:45 PM

I thought it was a good funeral, despite disliking Barb Bush; but his granddaughters all looked like sluts.

by Anonymousreply 172April 21, 2018 5:45 PM

[quote]So Melania deserves credit, and that is just an unknown example of why Hilary is hated by so many. The flaws in her character cannot be denied.

No it's just you and your Clinton hate, dear. You flawless dear.

by Anonymousreply 173April 21, 2018 5:46 PM

Lowering the Bar.

by Anonymousreply 174April 21, 2018 5:46 PM

I love this headline:

"Barbara Bush funeral: Donald Trump not attending 'out of respect'"

LOL! You weren't invited or wanted asshole!

by Anonymousreply 175April 21, 2018 5:47 PM

Ambulances are a fairly regular feature in political motorcades now.

by Anonymousreply 176April 21, 2018 5:47 PM

No representative from the Reagan family, even though Bush #41 was his VP?

by Anonymousreply 177April 21, 2018 5:48 PM

Sorry r169 Tom Brokaw.

by Anonymousreply 178April 21, 2018 5:48 PM

the Carters didn't send anyone to represent them.

While the Kennedys, Johnsons, Nixons, Fords are all represented w/ daughters of those former Presidents.

btw the Reagan's sent no one either.

by Anonymousreply 179April 21, 2018 5:48 PM

R174. Bravo

by Anonymousreply 180April 21, 2018 5:49 PM

Yes, r175. I'm sure there were signals sent that the current blotus was not exactly welcome.

by Anonymousreply 181April 21, 2018 5:49 PM

You know.... I'm going to say this;

I HATE THOSE DAMN SUVs! Where are the limousines???

by Anonymousreply 182April 21, 2018 5:50 PM

I give Bush 41 another 3 months.

by Anonymousreply 183April 21, 2018 5:54 PM

[quote]when Barbara Bush was determined to hold a baby and hug people afflicted with AIDS that was HUGE!

Bitch stole my act!

by Anonymousreply 184April 21, 2018 5:54 PM

why didn't anyone from the Carters go? Is there some Carter-Bush feud ?

by Anonymousreply 185April 21, 2018 5:54 PM

Yes, Sam Donaldson is alive.

by Anonymousreply 186April 21, 2018 5:55 PM

Not to my knowledge - remember the Carters greeting the George HW Bush and Barbara with fondness while blowing off Hilary and Bill?

by Anonymousreply 187April 21, 2018 5:57 PM

[quote]...btw the Reagan's sent no one either...

For reasons which are well known to them.

by Anonymousreply 188April 21, 2018 5:57 PM

Trump is a classless piece of shit. Playing golf and having fun on the day the nation remembers a First Lady. He has no sense of the responsibility of his office. What a fucking embarrassment.

by Anonymousreply 189April 21, 2018 5:57 PM

[quote]why didn't anyone from the Carters go? Is there some Carter-Bush feud ?

President Carter was already on a committed trip and Mrs Carter is just out of the hospital and recovering.

by Anonymousreply 190April 21, 2018 5:57 PM

Sooooo. When I switch channels, I get a 3-4 second synopsis-ette in the upper left corner. We-e-ell, seems as if there's a change in the broadcast schedule, there isn't one on the synopsis-ette. Switching around this morning.....well.......

CBS - Priest speaking. CBS banner along bottom with her photo and "Farewell First Lady - The Funeral of Barbara P. Bush". The 3-4 second synopsis-ette in the upper left corner lets me know that I'm watching.....

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by Anonymousreply 191April 21, 2018 6:00 PM

Oh, geez.... Nicole Wallace is about to cry. But, what she is saying is correct. This POS in the White House is literally destroying our country and what we stand for.

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by Anonymousreply 192April 21, 2018 6:02 PM

More like 3 weeks R183.

by Anonymousreply 193April 21, 2018 6:14 PM

[quote]I've heard shit on the news this week like "with a wink and a nod, you knew she was on our side"

Oh honey, when you reach a certain age you just realize that everyone should just live their life and be happy. George and Barbara attended a few gay weddings AND had a good time too--or so it was reported.

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by Anonymousreply 194April 21, 2018 6:18 PM

[quote]I give Bush 41 another 3 months.

Yes - I am thinking the next time he has some sort of ailment he is not going to have a lot of fight to recover.

by Anonymousreply 195April 21, 2018 6:23 PM

and the question will be whether Trump will attend George's funeral lol since his sons hate him. It will be hilarious in the news stream. Fox will go crazy and won't know how to handle it other than blame the MSM for dividing the country. Of course none of that will make sense

by Anonymousreply 196April 21, 2018 6:27 PM

[quote] Nicole Wallace is about to cry. But, what she is saying is correct. This POS in the White House is literally destroying our country and what we stand for.

I love how she mentioned all of the previous presidents' families' names in attendance, even the Fords and Johnsons, but not Trumps, of course. But she didn't even acknowledge Melania!

by Anonymousreply 197April 21, 2018 6:27 PM

[quote]Yes - I am thinking the next time he has some sort of ailment he is not going to have a lot of fight to recover.

I agree. He put up a brave front. In fact, the whole family has and why not? Living to see 92 years of age is a fabulous run! But, I believe the funeral really got next to President Daddy Bush. I suppose he always thought that he would be the first to go.

by Anonymousreply 198April 21, 2018 6:27 PM

When one of the eulogists was speaking about HW joining B in the hospital...

HW checked himself into care so he wouldn't have to go to Cheeto's inauguration...

Just a week or so later, HW was doing the coin toss at the Superbowl.

by Anonymousreply 199April 21, 2018 6:28 PM

HW doesn't look too great.

by Anonymousreply 200April 21, 2018 6:30 PM

I don't think anyone would have held it against 41 if he just didn't attend without a reason. A 92 y.o. wheelchair bound man outside in freezing temperatures for a couple of hours? That would have been the death of him

by Anonymousreply 201April 21, 2018 6:33 PM

Why does Melania have to sit next to a closeted homosexual satanist?

by Anonymousreply 202April 21, 2018 6:35 PM

People who love our country R199 (regardless of politics) can see what this monster in the White House is doing to the nation. He is destroying it. Now, I know that was a charge that was always thrown at Obama but that was the Republicans with their partisanship, etc. Trump, his supporters, the Conservative Entertainment Media, and a few Republicans who support Trump, are actively encouraging us to hate each other.

The image below is representative of the values of this nation.

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by Anonymousreply 203April 21, 2018 6:36 PM

Cheney attended Obama's inauguration in a wheelchair so he wouldn't have to stand for the first black president.

by Anonymousreply 204April 21, 2018 6:36 PM

[quote]Cheney attended Obama's inauguration in a wheelchair so he wouldn't have to stand for the first black president.

ABSOLUTELY! And, NOT ONE person will ever convince me that there was any other reason than that!

by Anonymousreply 205April 21, 2018 6:38 PM

At least now we’ll know what Eric Stoltz will look like when he’s 92.

by Anonymousreply 206April 21, 2018 6:41 PM

[quote] Not to change the subject, but how would the Obamas have gotten there? They still fly on Government planes, or are the going to be sitting at Gate 16 waiting for their Untied flight later this afternoon? They have money now, but not private jet money, right?

Yes. The Obamas have private jet money. Their net worth is probably @$50 million and will grow exponentially over the years.

by Anonymousreply 207April 21, 2018 6:49 PM

[quote]Why does Melania have to sit next to a closeted homosexual satanist?

The whore was lucky that she was even allowed into the church! Look at how the eyes and faces don't even look at her. You need to start worrying about who will attend her funeral. She is doing NOTHING as FLOTUS and in her defense (I can be nice at times) it is because her husband is so despised by the nation.

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by Anonymousreply 208April 21, 2018 6:51 PM

"Years later, Carol Taylor Gray, the former wife of the White House counsel C Boyden Gray, said: “Jennifer was a fact of life in George’s life. Period. End of discussion. It was what it was. No one knew that better than my husband, who worked for George Bush for 12 years. We talked about it constantly . . . No one held it against George.

“Actually, I liked Jennifer — she was petite and attractive, and she made him happy, so I’m glad he had her in his life to give him a little joy . . . I know this is heresy to say because Barbara Bush is adored by the country and looks like such a sweet old grandmother, but the country doesn’t know her like I do . . . I don’t think she has a good heart . . . she’s not a nice woman.”

by Anonymousreply 209April 21, 2018 6:54 PM

Was the Quayles there? Also, did anyone acknowledge Melania? I didn't hear or maybe I missed anyone acknowledge her or any of the other presidents and first kadues.

by Anonymousreply 210April 21, 2018 6:59 PM

Sorry, ladies!

by Anonymousreply 211April 21, 2018 7:04 PM

Black Magic at work!

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by Anonymousreply 212April 21, 2018 7:05 PM

REALITY!

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by Anonymousreply 213April 21, 2018 7:05 PM

What had to be awkward had to be the group gathering of all the Presidents and First Ladies on hold before being seated. All huddled in the same room.

by Anonymousreply 214April 21, 2018 7:12 PM

[quote]Was the Quayles there?

The List:

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by Anonymousreply 215April 21, 2018 7:13 PM

The Quayles were there as was Gabby Gifford and Mrs Romney.

John Sununu was also there, but no word on whose plane he took to Houston.

by Anonymousreply 216April 21, 2018 7:15 PM

[quote]What had to be awkward had to be the group gathering of all the Presidents and First Ladies on hold before being seated.

Melanija under-dressed for the occasion, so it was a little awkward.

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by Anonymousreply 217April 21, 2018 7:17 PM

Good riddance to bad rubbish, horrid old bitch.

by Anonymousreply 218April 21, 2018 7:31 PM

[quote]Melania looked downright cheerful early on. Happier at a funeral than when she's with her husband.

Funerals for old people give her hope.

by Anonymousreply 219April 21, 2018 7:34 PM

Good riddance to the old bitch! Death has worked out very well for her.

by Anonymousreply 220April 21, 2018 7:35 PM

"Th-they w-wouldn't let us IN!"

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by Anonymousreply 221April 21, 2018 7:38 PM

Bar didn’t have patience so I think I would’ve gotten along very well with her. I’m very impatient.

by Anonymousreply 222April 21, 2018 7:49 PM

I believe Bar’s statement “this is working out well for them” made about the Katrina victims sheltering at a Houston arena was in relationship to the alternative of floating face down in the flood waters.

by Anonymousreply 223April 21, 2018 7:50 PM

Very tasteful. Not nearly as moving as Pat Nixon's funeral (because her husband in this case did not break and start sobbing out of guilt over ruining his poor wife's life), but still well done overall.

The thing about The Establishment is that its members really have nice taste. That's why they're The Establishment.

by Anonymousreply 224April 21, 2018 7:53 PM

Does Hillary have a 'bag' or is he just wearing those tents to cover an enormous belly?

by Anonymousreply 225April 21, 2018 7:54 PM

[quote] Bar didn’t have patience so I think I would’ve gotten along very well with her. I’m very impatient.

Impatience is a classic sign of narcissism.

by Anonymousreply 226April 21, 2018 7:54 PM

Bar said two bad things, the one quoted above and the beautiful mind quote. TWO bad things. Trump does that everytime he opens his mouth or tweets. Give Bar a fucking break.

by Anonymousreply 227April 21, 2018 7:54 PM

She had letters on the dining room wall spelling out FAMILY.

by Anonymousreply 228April 21, 2018 7:57 PM

What R227. As people have given interviews this week there's been a lot emerge about her that I didn't know before. She got far more right than wrong.

by Anonymousreply 229April 21, 2018 8:02 PM

Why are there two hearses?

by Anonymousreply 230April 21, 2018 8:03 PM

Yeah, I want to know that, too, R230.

by Anonymousreply 231April 21, 2018 8:05 PM

Just in case Hillary had a fall.

by Anonymousreply 232April 21, 2018 8:07 PM

The second hearse is Melania's escape route.

by Anonymousreply 233April 21, 2018 8:07 PM

[quote]Why are there two hearses?

HW prep.

by Anonymousreply 234April 21, 2018 8:07 PM

I am guessing because the journey from Houston to the Library was long... a hundred miles? So break down back up.

by Anonymousreply 235April 21, 2018 8:10 PM

The second hearse is for the help.

by Anonymousreply 236April 21, 2018 8:14 PM

Erna, hon, I'm sure Hillary will loan you one of her "tents" to cover your crix belly, if you ask her nicely.

by Anonymousreply 237April 21, 2018 8:17 PM

Thank you, R120. Thank you. Mine would have been 91 in June.😿 That Depression generation was something special (the good ones, I mean; apologies to those who had awful parents).

And blessings to you on your mom's special day. Celebrate anyway!

by Anonymousreply 238April 21, 2018 8:29 PM

Trump is going to love the images of Melania laughing it up with Obama. Vairst Leddy vill have black eye.

by Anonymousreply 239April 21, 2018 8:36 PM

I wasn't crazy about their politics, and I never supported them, but I have to say they corner the market on civility. The G H W Bushes are classy. At least Barbara and 41 were. I think that sort of uncomplaining class, generosity and courtesy, politeness if you will, would really help a lot to getting us right side up again. Because there is a coarseness that Trump appeals to. He is vulgar and garish and vile..

by Anonymousreply 240April 21, 2018 8:43 PM

[quote]Now that the service is over, she was known as Bar "Sea Hag" Bush on DL for many years.

No, R165.

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by Anonymousreply 241April 21, 2018 8:47 PM

Thanks, R235. I didn't know the trip was so far. For some reason, I thought College Station is a suburb of Houston.

by Anonymousreply 242April 21, 2018 8:50 PM

R242 I live close to 290 where the motorcade was en route. From the Galleria area from where the funeral was on a Saturday it’d still be over two hour drive. Plus they went down Memorial where people were paying they’re respects so that makes it longer obviously.

by Anonymousreply 243April 21, 2018 8:54 PM

Will they drive all the way back too or fly? I know it's only a hundred miles but it makes for a long day.

by Anonymousreply 244April 21, 2018 8:55 PM

R244 if I were the Bushes (especially old man Bush) I’d fly. It’s a long drive. I live in Houston and vast sections of 290 are under construction closer to town. Not a fun drive nowadays.

by Anonymousreply 245April 21, 2018 8:59 PM

Was the husky granddaughter Jeb!'s girl, the (former) crackhead?

by Anonymousreply 246April 21, 2018 9:01 PM

R201 wtf are you talking about? 1. they were married 73 years. Of course he would want to be at her funeral. 2. It’s not freezing in Houston or College Station. In the 70s.

by Anonymousreply 247April 21, 2018 9:02 PM

Some interesting tweets about the R212 photo:

Bob Cesca Verified account @bobcesca_go @bobcesca_go

Do NOT tweet this photo to @realDonaldTrump. He'll hate knowing that the first time Melania cracked a smile in years was during a quiet chat with Obama.

Steve Silberman Verified account @stevesilberman @stevesilberman

This is Melania and Obama sitting together today at former First Lady Barbara Bush's funeral. Have you ever, ever, EVER seen Melania smile like this, and look this relaxed, beside her own husband? Ever?

Kaivan Shroff @KaivanShroff @KaivanShroff

Melania’s husband abandoned her, so, even though she promoted the racist birther conspiracy, Obama sat next to her. He is pure class. #BarbaraBushFuneral

Adam Best Verified account @adamcbest @adamcbest

This photo from Barbara Bush’s funeral speaks volumes. After everything Trump has done to Obama, Obama still treats Melania with kindness and respect. What a diplomat and gentleman. That’s a real President. No way Trump would be half this warm to Michelle.

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by Anonymousreply 248April 21, 2018 9:02 PM

Trump isn't even that warm to MELANIA

by Anonymousreply 249April 21, 2018 9:04 PM

R247 - I think R201 was referring to Bush not wanting to be at Trump's inauguration in January 2017.

by Anonymousreply 250April 21, 2018 9:05 PM

[quote]wtf are you talking about?

Referencing a comment above about the inauguration, obviously.

by Anonymousreply 251April 21, 2018 9:09 PM

[quote]No way Trump would be half this warm to Michelle.

You realize when you hear all the words used to describe Barbara Bush and see the grace of Obama next to Melania Trump how little there is to Donald Trump. Even his words about Mrs. Bush were all overshadowed by the garbage he talks about everything else. The words to describe Trump as a person all boil down to failings of character. There is nothing in Donald Trump to move him to grace.

by Anonymousreply 252April 21, 2018 9:13 PM

Okay. A half a point for the gal. This was a nice thing to do:

Kate Bennett Verified account @KateBennett_DC @KateBennett_DC

. @FLOTUS personally invited George Hannie, former White House maitre d, and Buddy Carter, current White House usher -- both of whom worked for and adored Barbara Bush -- to join her on the flight to Houston so the two could attend today's memorial.

BUT!

"Sure! It came from her very informed knowledge of previous presidency! 🙄🙄Thank her secretary or whoever advice her to do so!"

"She is as bad as Trump! She’s an opportunist. Besides going on national tv bashing the man is being a gentleman in the occasion they’ve been together, she has plagiarized the speeches of the woman that has been so gracious even for just standing next to her, real FLOTUS, Michelle"

"Not to be a bitch, but we shouldnt praise her for this bc she obviously doesn’t have the capacity to think of this gesture on her own, someone told her it would look good so she did it."

"Let me get this straight. When she does something nice it’s her secretaries, but when she reads a speech that someone else wrote it’s her fault. Got it.. You probably need to ask yourself why you hate her so much. Have a nice day"

by Anonymousreply 253April 21, 2018 9:16 PM

Whatever the reason, it was a kind thing to do. And I don't admire her at all. That's the problem these days, everything's got to be a partisan rageoholic cuntfest.

I'm trying to dislike, disapprove and even despise the people I dislike, despise and disapprove of without having to been insanely angry about it all. Because I'm tired of living like this. It's exhausting.

by Anonymousreply 254April 21, 2018 9:20 PM

DAAAAAAAMMMMNNNN, R237!!!

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by Anonymousreply 255April 21, 2018 9:27 PM

R1, did he really tweet that it will be a beautiful day, or are you just kidding?

by Anonymousreply 256April 21, 2018 9:30 PM

[quote]There is nothing in Donald Trump to move him to grace.

Beautifully put, R252.

by Anonymousreply 257April 21, 2018 9:32 PM

Barack Obama and Bill Clinton have an element of class and intelligence that has always eluded the man known as "Trump."

by Anonymousreply 258April 21, 2018 9:34 PM

Very late to the party, but those granddaughters did indeed look like they were headed out to the club afterward.

My god, Barbara? (Jenna?) looked like she was dressed for a party!

Completely inappropriate.

So the Episcopalians are sort of like Catholics except they don't follow the Pope? The Apostles Creed even mentions the Catholic and Apostolic Church!!

by Anonymousreply 259April 21, 2018 9:43 PM

R166.....Don't you mean r157 ?

Now apologize to my new friend @ r159 !

by Anonymousreply 260April 21, 2018 9:46 PM

I think Melania was told they had been at the WH for Bush and loved Barbara Bush. So she decided to take them with her. Look. Given how her husband is constantly shitting himself in public, and he has insulted everyone that matters in that fucking audience today, and given the fact he humiliates her publicly all the time, and would probably be uncontrollably jealous of her if she ever dared to go off on her own and become as popular as the other first ladies, I cut her some slack. I think she was probably very nervous today. I think it's good for her to get out without that shit faced scum bucket, and be around real civil people who are not coarse and crude and dishonest. They are graceful and decent and I think she can see the contrast. Finally. When Trump brought her to Washington as First Lady her world got a lot bigger. I'm sure that pisses him off.

by Anonymousreply 261April 21, 2018 9:46 PM

Sure would love to see some kind of definitive list of who attended to day. I was trying to identify people on TV, but it was real hit & miss.

by Anonymousreply 262April 21, 2018 9:48 PM

You seem to be channelling Barack Obama, r261.

Take this as a compliment

by Anonymousreply 263April 21, 2018 9:49 PM

Click R215, R262

by Anonymousreply 264April 21, 2018 9:51 PM

r261, I know you think Melania is some beaten down housewife, but she's not. She is as craven and disgusting as Trump. A tiny gesture doesn't change that. She's done a lot of things on her own that are nasty and cruel.

by Anonymousreply 265April 21, 2018 9:52 PM

Dees day meh hav bean foonerel, but it be my bestest day ever een a veddy, veddy long tyme.

And Meester Obama he be so veddy, veddy nyce to mee!

End my seempaty to dat fahmeely of Booshes for mecking greyt day poseeble.

by Anonymousreply 266April 21, 2018 9:54 PM

Obama was probably regaling Melania with the latest Trump jokes. It was so great to see the Obamas again.

by Anonymousreply 267April 21, 2018 9:57 PM

R248 Yes, Obama is a true gentleman, Donnie is garbage who was voted by people who think trash is funny nice thing.

by Anonymousreply 268April 21, 2018 9:59 PM

I'm not R261 but I give her just a little slack--very little. It must be hard to be so disliked because her husband is so absolutely despised. Now, she's had her mess too but I do believe that she does admire Michelle Obama and that she would like to do more as FLOTUS. But, she knows her husband and is afraid of upstaging him. I read somewhere recently that she plans to go forward with her war against cyber-bullying regardless of what others are telling her what to do. So, she might be finding her voice.

I don't know... I feel that she really wanted to attend today's service because she felt it, not only her duty (and honor) to do so, but she REALLY wanted to. But, she's got an uphill battle. I think I have only seen her maybe twice on the cover of major magazines since she's been FLOTUS. No one really reports on her fashion and in my opinion she's worn very little that has been stunning. No one really interviews her either. I don't know... I'm pretty sure that she's not happy simply being thought as the "trophy wife" and as an afterthought at that.

by Anonymousreply 269April 21, 2018 10:05 PM

[quote]She's done a lot of things on her own that are nasty and cruel.

Like what? The birther business is the only thing I can think of. I ask because I am leaning toward pitying her. Bear with me.

First of all, I think she's shallow and not terribly intelligent. You just have to look at her life before the White House. But I have no doubt he deceived her... was on his best behaviour until they were married. If you look at these reports about her anger over Stormy Daniels, you have to figure she found out something she didn't know (but probably suspected.) I don't think she's malicious, necessarily, I just don't think she has much of a clue. She came to New York to be model and marry rich man. Well, she did, and now her tits are splashed everywhere and she married to the thing that ate the White House. I don't think she was stupid enough to do that knowingly, which I think means she was not smart enough to fall into it all unknowingly.

Her life seems to me classic be careful what you wish for. But I do think there have been times she trolls him with some of her offsides... like the visit to the Holocaust memorial, the solo trip to the State of the Union, the cancellation of the overseas trip, hell - even the am interest in cyber bully may be in part or whole because every time it gets mentioned it get mentioned what an online asshole he is.

I think she's a moderately intelligent social climber in over her head. So I feel sorry for her.

by Anonymousreply 270April 21, 2018 10:06 PM

R270 thinks Eva Braun was just misunderstood...

by Anonymousreply 271April 21, 2018 10:14 PM

I think Melania was at her best with the Pope. Properly dressed, better behaved than her rube husband and Javanka, and they seemed to get on.

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by Anonymousreply 272April 21, 2018 10:21 PM

Bar's family loved her fiercely, as did her friends. And she loved them back with the same fierceness and loyalty.

In the end, that's all that matters.

by Anonymousreply 273April 21, 2018 10:22 PM

I’m so goddamned tired of her and her funeral. Just due and be gone already.

by Anonymousreply 274April 21, 2018 10:31 PM

“i’m pretty sure that she's not happy simply being thought as the "trophy wife"

LMAO you mean the whore who flashed her snatch and tits to the world while rolling around in fur, and posing with her husband and son (on his gilded hobby horse) in their mobster tackiness has issues with being a trophy wife?

I think that’s EXACTLY what she’s aspired to be, and it’s working out quite well for her.

by Anonymousreply 275April 21, 2018 10:35 PM

You can't blame her refusal to take on first lady responsibilities on Trump's brutish behavior. That's silly. She knew exactly who Trump was before she married him. She knew him for several years before she married him. Even he can't keep up a charade for that long. She did an interview back in 1999 saying what kind of first lady she would be if he was president. People need to look at this video again to see what kind of person she is.

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by Anonymousreply 276April 21, 2018 10:41 PM

I’m glad today is the last day I have to hear about that bitch in the news. This place is a different story.

by Anonymousreply 277April 21, 2018 10:42 PM

I feel indifference toward Melania.

I feel that she could have done MUCH better in the spouse department. Surely she had better Johns than Trump before she met him. Perhaps they were married, or otherwise unavailable for a relationship leading to marriage.

Girls in her former profession can get more than lucky, and meet a man who falls in love with them, and all of that. But it’s rare that a man who hires pros will stay faithful once married.

That said, I think she actually believed that she loved him at one point. Perhaps she still does. Regardless, she understands him, and will do his bidding when asked nicely.

I don’t believe that she’s an evil cunt. I believe she fell for DJT’s scams, like so many others have. I think she wanted a very comfortable life, and didn’t mind the glitz and glamour that came along with dating a pseudo-celebrity. It gave her a certain amount of credibility, even though most New Yorkers know Trump is pure trash. At that time, I believe she genuinely did not know any better.

I do believe she married him for money, when the rubber met the road. By the time she walked down that aisle, she knew enough to get out. But what better options did she have by then?

I had an opportunity to marry someone I grew to care for very much, and I would have been set for life. When he asked, I initially said yes, then said no, And that’s all she wrote. But I speak perfect English. I’m well educated, I’ve supported myself financially all of my adult life, and I didn’t have to escort in order to do so. Don’t misunderstand, I considered it. I have no moral quandary with escorting, but I just cannot bring myself to fuck men I care nothing about.

Melania hit the lottery when she met Trump. Unfortunately, Trump did not feel he had hit the lottery when he met her. Nothing is special, or unique to that man. He has no sense of value regarding a good wife, a family, or home.

She’ll be fine no matter what. Don’t feel too bad for her. She has no idea you exist, anyhow.

May Babs RIP. 92 ain’t half bad at all.

by Anonymousreply 278April 21, 2018 11:02 PM

10:00 AMtVIP Reception hosted by President George W. Bush.

First Lady Melania Trump President and Mrs. Clinton President and Mrs. Obama President Bush 41 President and Mrs. George W. Bush Doro and Bobby Koch Governor Jeb Bush and Columba Bush Maria and Neil Bush Marvin and Margaret Bush Secretary Jim Baker and Susan Baker Keith and Jon Meacham Peter and Kiki Cheney Chelsea Clinton Susan Ford Bales Lynda Johnson Robb and Senator Chuck Robb Luci Baines Johnson and Ian Turpin Tricia Nixon Cox and Edward Cox Ambassador Caroline Kennedy and Schlossberg Grandchildren and their spouses

by Anonymousreply 279April 21, 2018 11:19 PM

10:00 AMtVIP Reception hosted by President George W. Bush.

First Lady Melania Trump President and Mrs. Clinton President and Mrs. Obama President Bush 41 President and Mrs. George W. Bush Doro and Bobby Koch Governor Jeb Bush and Columba Bush Maria and Neil Bush Marvin and Margaret Bush Secretary Jim Baker and Susan Baker Keith and Jon Meacham

Peter and Kiki Cheney Chelsea Clinton Susan Ford Bales Lynda Johnson Robb and Senator Chuck Robb Luci Baines Johnson and Ian Turpin Tricia Nixon Cox and Edward Cox Ambassador Caroline Kennedy and Schlossberg

Grandchildren and their spouses

by Anonymousreply 280April 21, 2018 11:21 PM

Here's the VIP list

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by Anonymousreply 281April 21, 2018 11:22 PM

Didn't Dan Quayle show up?

by Anonymousreply 282April 21, 2018 11:23 PM

I wonder if Melania apologized to the Obamas for spreading the birther hate.

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by Anonymousreply 283April 21, 2018 11:26 PM

[quote]Adam Best Verified account @adamcbest @adamcbest This photo from Barbara Bush’s funeral speaks volumes. After everything Trump has done to Obama, Obama still treats Melania with kindness and respect. What a diplomat and gentleman. That’s a real President. No way Trump would be half this warm to Michelle.

Oh, come now. DJT would be charming to Michelle if she become half a foot shorter, 30 pounds lighter and borrowed Beyonce’s skin lightening cosmetics and blonde wigs.

“Beautiful. So elegant! Beautiful. In such great shape. It’s a great day. You remind me of my daughter. No, the other one.”

by Anonymousreply 284April 21, 2018 11:26 PM

Quayle was at the funeral, but George HW didn't invite him to the private reception.

What a snub of his own vice president (even if he did cost him re-election).

by Anonymousreply 285April 21, 2018 11:29 PM

So! When will the soundtrack be released? I just loved the musical selections and the choir

by Anonymousreply 286April 21, 2018 11:29 PM

This would have been going through my head the ENTIRE time, I tell you what.

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by Anonymousreply 287April 21, 2018 11:33 PM

Some were complaining about what the grand daughters were wearing and that some of their outfits were inappropriate. WELL, did you see what Marvin's (youngest brother) wife was wearing? Ahem... She's an actress and is the third person in from the right. The lower part of her dress (short dress) is black lace. I love that purse!

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by Anonymousreply 288April 21, 2018 11:49 PM

Where is she performing Sweet Charity, r288?

by Anonymousreply 289April 21, 2018 11:54 PM

Is Noelle married?

by Anonymousreply 290April 21, 2018 11:54 PM

Interesting tweets:

Mrs. Betty Bowers @BettyBowers @BettyBowers

TODAY'S PRESIDENTS' SCHEDULES:

Barack Obama: Barbara Bush's Funeral.

George W. Bush: Barbara Bush's Funeral.

Bill Clinton: Barbara Bush's Funeral.

George H. W. Bush: Barbara Bush's Funeral.

Donald Trump: Tweeting Paranoid Libel, Arby's, and Then Some Golf.

Greta Van Susteren Verified account @greta @greta Invited to Barbara Bush’s funeral was the owner of her favorite pizza restaurant...he and his wife sat next to me.She wanted to include people who were a part of her life and she loved their restaurant. It was not all big names but all very important people to her.

ONTV NIGERIA Verified account @ONTV_NIGERIA @ONTV_NIGERIA Four heads of State at Barbara Bush’s funeral, Trump shuns event

LOL! That man is just despised.

by Anonymousreply 291April 21, 2018 11:59 PM

Melania and Bar both dropped out of college before the second year.

by Anonymousreply 292April 21, 2018 11:59 PM

R97, so Poppy is a closeted bisexual man. Interesting. She cut her hair short and let it go to look like a man, and as a symbol of her outrage and rebellion against George not being able to truly, sexually appreciate her. Not to look like his mother, unless he specifically asked her to do so.

The mistress must have been a state of the art ball buster, and George was clearly her submissive.

No wonder Bar Bush drank like a fish and smoked like a chimney. She was married to a bi closeted man at best, and he never wanted him in the way she wanted him.

Maybe I’m totally off, and he was actually more into children. NOT equating homosexuality to pedophilia, by the way. But something was obviously off in that marriage.

Straight women (other than those in academia) do not allow themselves to age as Barbara Bush did. I don’t mean her look at 70. I mean her look in the late 1970s. They especially don’t go down that route if they have competition, and straight women ALWAYS have competition.

I wonder what the details are of that marriage? It must have been hell for her.

by Anonymousreply 293April 21, 2018 11:59 PM

R101 Living with Trump is probably like being at a funeral everyday. Melania’s used to it.

by Anonymousreply 294April 22, 2018 12:02 AM

[quote]I wonder what the details are of that marriage? It must have been hell for her.

Oh, for goodness sake R293! They were married for 73 years! That's all you need to know. Mind your own business.

by Anonymousreply 295April 22, 2018 12:04 AM

At least she wasn't a cum guzzling cunt like Nan Davis.

by Anonymousreply 296April 22, 2018 12:05 AM

OK. I saw Caroline and her husband, Chelsea, and Tricia Nixon but where were Lynda Bird and Luci Baines

by Anonymousreply 297April 22, 2018 12:12 AM

There has been, going back to Hoover, many times where Presidents have called on former Presidents for guidance, support, as representatives, etc. This has happened publicly or quietly or some mixture. I actually believe that there is a real bond between these families since they have shared experiences that no one else in the world could have felt. The best book about this is The Presidents Club. Within it time and time again foes and rivals have come together to root for their country. Ford and Carter (as well as Bush 41 and Clinton) come to mind. To my knowledge, other than a few comments by Carter about Trump, there has been no interactions between the former Presidents and the current regime and that is a waster opportunity.

by Anonymousreply 298April 22, 2018 12:14 AM

I understand the Presidents and First Ladies coming together to send off one of their own, but I don't get the children. Did the Nixon/Johnson or even Caroline Kennedy have any real interaction with Barbara Bush? Or are they just promoting and reminding the public of their parent's legacies/libraries, etc.

by Anonymousreply 299April 22, 2018 12:17 AM

Yes, R295. That’s why we’re all here on Data Lounge. We’re just minding our own business, by pointing out to me that I should mind my own business.

I see that NOTHING gets past you!

Anyhow, back to minding my own business: I’m willing to bet that “Poppy” was bi, completely gay, a pedo, or a combination thereof.

And no, I’m not a conspiracy theorist. Even though I’m sufficiently knowledgeable about what’s out there regarding the Franklin coverup, I never quite believed ALL of it. It was just all too ridiculous to be true. However, reading the link at R97’s post, has given me pause & contemplation.

by Anonymousreply 300April 22, 2018 12:21 AM

[quote]To my knowledge, other than a few comments by Carter about Trump, there has been no interactions between the former Presidents and the current regime and that is a waster opportunity.

But, the former presidents have come together to speak out against Trump! Even President Daddy Bush has uttered his displeasure from his wheelchair! They are trying to respect the power and position of the office but like most of us they can see that Trump is trying to, (and maybe without knowingly so), destroying the country.

The children of presidents are indeed very friendly with each other and keep some sort of contact. Being a child of the POTUS is never easy and can destroy the lives of the kids. I think all of FDR's kids had issues.

Another fun tweet (it refers to the Obama/Melania photo that has now gone viral):

Eugene Gu, MD Verified account @eugenegu @eugenegu

While Trump went golfing, Melania got her seats upgraded to First Class. #BarbaraBushFuneral

by Anonymousreply 301April 22, 2018 12:27 AM

Hillary Clinton looked pissed off. Maybe she was sick or something. But she she came off as ticked at something. Anybody else notice?

by Anonymousreply 302April 22, 2018 12:27 AM

The Mack Wilberg arrangement of "My County Tis' of Thee" that was performed by the choir is beautiful. The link is The Mormon Tabernacle Choir performing it.

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by Anonymousreply 303April 22, 2018 12:32 AM

Mackie Mack?

by Anonymousreply 304April 22, 2018 12:39 AM

[quote] Hillary Clinton looked pissed off. Maybe she was sick or something. But she she came off as ticked at something. Anybody else notice?

I only saw one photo of her and I think it was likely the angle if that's the one you saw. Or maybe she's annoyed that the Presidency was stolen from her by the most unqualified person in the history of the republic.

by Anonymousreply 305April 22, 2018 12:39 AM

This one

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by Anonymousreply 306April 22, 2018 12:40 AM

There have been hints/suggestions that some of the actions of Bush 43 were not supported by Bush 41, but he always stayed quiet out of respect.

by Anonymousreply 307April 22, 2018 12:42 AM

R302, IMO Hillary looked tired. I liked her 3/4 length boucle' coat worn over a black dress. She had diamond earrings on too. One thing. Hillary simply cannot do her own hair. I undertand the weather was in the 70's and it was rainy earlier this morning. Her hair looked kind of limp, but it was longer and swept back.

by Anonymousreply 308April 22, 2018 12:44 AM

R297, Lynda Johnson Robb, Luci Johnson, Susan Ford, Chelsea Clinton, Caroline Kennedy and Tricia Nixon all entered the church together and sat in the same pew. I saw no one from the Reagan family.

by Anonymousreply 309April 22, 2018 12:44 AM

My fantasy scene from that VIP reception list is Bill Clinton upstairs with Melania against a door fucking her wheels off, like Sonny in The Godfather, while the rest of the guests nibble on cookies down in the parlor.

by Anonymousreply 310April 22, 2018 12:46 AM

Good bye fat alcoholic cunt. Burn baby, burn!

by Anonymousreply 311April 22, 2018 12:49 AM

Ron Reagan was probably off at some barre or another, r309.

by Anonymousreply 312April 22, 2018 12:49 AM

Alas, R312, Bill is a shadow of his former self. He is a good looking old man, but a frail one.

by Anonymousreply 313April 22, 2018 12:52 AM

R312, Now that Ron Reagan, Jr. is a widower, he must be banging guys left and right.

by Anonymousreply 314April 22, 2018 12:54 AM

R299, the ex-First Daughters are representing their parents, I guess.

by Anonymousreply 315April 22, 2018 12:55 AM

I wonder what it's like for Hillary to realize, after Ros Carter goes (which is not far off), shes now the oldest former First Lady.

by Anonymousreply 316April 22, 2018 12:56 AM

Why was Ann Romney invited, but not Mitt?

by Anonymousreply 317April 22, 2018 12:58 AM

I had an aunt and uncle the same ages as George and Barbara die last year within 6 weeks of each other . . . 41 won't live out the year.

by Anonymousreply 318April 22, 2018 1:00 AM

Not sure why some of the Bush women chose to wear plunging necklines. The dresses would have been very tasteful without them.

No matter how tempting, don’t wear a plunging neckline to a funeral, especially one that is being broadcasted worldwide and is being covered by hundreds, if not thousands of multiple media outlets.

Melania’s Hair looked stringy. She would have looked better with it up.

R302, I agree. She looked unhappy, and not in a mournful way.

by Anonymousreply 319April 22, 2018 1:02 AM

R318, I agree. She was his best friend. This is probably a devastating loss for him.

by Anonymousreply 320April 22, 2018 1:04 AM

R319, Remember the mini skirt Patti Davis wore to Reagan's funeral?

by Anonymousreply 321April 22, 2018 1:11 AM

There will be very little wiggle room if Bush 41 dies. Trump will be breaking a great deal of precedent by not going, but I can't imagine the Bush family wants him there.

PS: The line about how he didn't attend because people would have to go through metal detectors is laughable. Do you really think people were allowed into a room with the Obamas, the Bushes, the Clintons and the political leaders of the last few decades without walking through a detector...

by Anonymousreply 322April 22, 2018 1:13 AM

Was the granddaughter who has mental and drug problems - daughter of Jeb - there? Didn't see her.

by Anonymousreply 323April 22, 2018 1:21 AM

What a beautiful tribute:

Loyal until the end: Secret Service agents who served Barbara Bush for decades and who she treated like 'family' refuse to leave her coffin

The agents stood by the former First Lady's coffin at St Martin's Episcopal Church in Houston, Texas

Some have served her for decades since she left the White House and said she treated them like family

Barbara's Secret Service code name was Tranquility which former agents said was perfect for her character

The 92-year-old was laid to rest on Saturday in Houston. She died on April 17

But in the hearse with Mrs. Bush, along the path from Houston to College Station and her final burial place, will be two Secret Service agents who were part of her team.

Never leaving her side until the last possible moment.

by Anonymousreply 324April 22, 2018 1:25 AM

Reunited and it feels so good . . .

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by Anonymousreply 325April 22, 2018 1:25 AM

R325 Nancy and Barbara hated each other.

by Anonymousreply 326April 22, 2018 1:32 AM

Re the Carters' absence:

[quote]“President and Mrs. Carter regret that they are unable to attend,” the Carter Center in Atlanta said in a statement Thursday morning. “President Carter will be on a private trip overseas, and although she is recovering, Mrs. Carter is not yet able to travel following her recent intestinal surgery.”

by Anonymousreply 327April 22, 2018 1:40 AM

Meanwhile, back at the golf course;

Donald J. Trump Verified account @realDonaldTrump @realDonaldTrump

"So funny, the Democrats have sued the Republicans for Winning. Now he R’s counter and force them to turn over a treasure trove of material, including Servers and Emails!"

"James Comey’s Memos are Classified, I did not Declassify them. They belong to our Government! Therefore, he broke the law! Additionally, he totally made up many of the things he said I said, and he is already a proven liar and leaker. Where are Memos on Clinton, Lynch & others?"

"The Washington Post said I refer to Jeff Sessions as “Mr. Magoo” and Rod Rosenstein as “Mr. Peepers.” This is “according to people with whom the president has spoken.” There are no such people and don’t know these characters...just more Fake & Disgusting News to create ill will!"

“At least two Memos Comey shared with a friend contained Classified Information.” Wall Street Journal"

OH! And Sylvester Stallone called

"Sylvester Stallone called me with the story of heavyweight boxing champion Jack Johnson. His trials and tribulations were great, his life complex and controversial. Others have looked at this over the years, most thought it would be done, but yes, I am considering a Full Pardon!"

by Anonymousreply 328April 22, 2018 1:43 AM

all the clips of Barbara prompted me to call up an old SNL sketch of Phil Hartman as Babs.

He was brilliant; he embodied her beautifully.

His Babs didn't apologize and helped fight illiteracy - he nailed her and spoofed her at the same time.

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by Anonymousreply 329April 22, 2018 1:52 AM

That VIP Reception list is interesting. Note how few active politicians made the cut. You know Ted Cruz and Rubio would have killed to be on it, but no.

by Anonymousreply 330April 22, 2018 1:52 AM

My bet is the grandaughters were told to dress as if they are going to a party. That it is a Life Celebration.

by Anonymousreply 331April 22, 2018 1:56 AM

and THIS one was brilliant; people were snorting and chuckling before the scene even began because they knew it was going to be brilliant.

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by Anonymousreply 332April 22, 2018 1:58 AM

r322, sitting President's don't go to former first ladies' funerals.

by Anonymousreply 333April 22, 2018 2:05 AM

^^Presidents

by Anonymousreply 334April 22, 2018 2:06 AM

I need to hit the books and concentrate, but this right here made me laugh really loud. OMG!

"The Washington Post said I refer to Jeff Sessions as “Mr. Magoo” and Rod Rosenstein as “Mr. Peepers.” This is “according to people with whom the president has spoken.” There are no such people and don’t know these characters...just more Fake & Disgusting News to create ill will!"

by Anonymousreply 335April 22, 2018 2:12 AM

They can go if they want to R322. I'm now seeing why Trump responded so viscerally. Apparently something went viral on the internet that said he was banned from the funeral. Even Snopes now has a page dedicated to it. Anyway, I think he did not attend because Trump is a coward. He goes no where that he isn't liked ie the press dinner, etc.

He knows what he has said about the Bush family, the Clintons, and the Obamas. He ain't walking into a den of lions.

@R355, Trump, Maggie Habermann, and the NYT have been having a twitter war for hours now over his tweets of today.

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by Anonymousreply 336April 22, 2018 2:14 AM

JFK and Jackie at Eleanor Roosevelt's funeral in 1962.

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by Anonymousreply 337April 22, 2018 2:37 AM

The socks that President Bush wore today.

To honor his wife of 73 years and her commitment to family literacy, for which she raised over $110 million over the course of over 30 years, @GeorgeHWBush will be wearing a pair of socks festooned with books at today’s funeral service for former First Lady Barbara Bush.

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by Anonymousreply 338April 22, 2018 2:42 AM

Did Barbara go to Nancy's funeral?

by Anonymousreply 339April 22, 2018 2:59 AM

I thought that one kid that I had that started with a J gave a pretty good speech.

by Anonymousreply 340April 22, 2018 3:52 AM

R339 she wouldn't have missed that one!

by Anonymousreply 341April 22, 2018 3:53 AM

[quote]The Apostles Creed even mentions the Catholic and Apostolic Church!!

not exactly, for episcopalians it's "the holy catholic and apostolic church" there's no upper case "C" for catholic as the bishop of rome is just one among many.

by Anonymousreply 342April 22, 2018 4:12 AM

Hallo? Vair is all peeple? I here now to read Lord Prayer again like good Christian. Also, I architekt. Hallo?

by Anonymousreply 343April 22, 2018 4:27 AM

[quote]I wonder what it's like for Hillary to realize, after Ros Carter goes (which is not far off), shes now the oldest former First Lady.

Laura Bush is older than Hillary Clinton.

And George W. Bush is older than Bill Clinton.

by Anonymousreply 344April 22, 2018 4:41 AM

OK then try: wonder what it's like for Hillary to realize, after Ros Carter goes (which is not far off), shes now the oldest looking former First Lady.

by Anonymousreply 345April 22, 2018 4:45 AM

or maybe the oldest living first lady who didn't kill anyone driving drunk

by Anonymousreply 346April 22, 2018 4:51 AM

IF George HW Bush and the rest of the family doesn't want Trump at his funeral they can do it this way. He's entitled to lie in state. So they can either ship his ass to D.C for 224 hrs. Which, IMO is a waste, or they can have him lie in state at his Library. Which is preferable. Trump can fly out there to the library for a brief ceremony and then leave and the family can have a "private" service at church in Houston for family and friends. I thought it was incredibly odd that neither Rubio or Cruz even showed up during the visitation. That was just wrong. And you know, it could be that all three of them were afraid of offending Trump's base. Mitt, Rubio and Cruz. Now Rubio isn't running for re-election this year but Romney is running for a vacant seat in Utah, and they said there are some concerns about the extreme elements in the Utah GOP. Cruz has a tough fight on his hands for re-election in Texas. Of course I don't think the Bushes like Ted much. But Rubio and Jeb used to be close up until about three or four years ago. There was a time when civility dictated that you left politics at the door and stood in unity and respect at times like this. I hope we can get back to some of our traditions.

by Anonymousreply 347April 22, 2018 4:55 AM

[quote] There was a time when civility dictated that you left politics at the door and stood in unity and respect at times like this.

This could have been that opportunity. Yes, many people did not like the policies of President Daddy Bush or Jr but Barbara Bush was overwhelmingly popular. As I wrote upthread, she was considered America's grandmother. Her death and service has moved the needle a bit in regards to bringing this nation together. It would have been a feather in Trump's cap had he attended and played nice. But, he can't do it that. It's just simply not in him. What has happened is his likability has decreased a bit more today.

[quote]I hope we can get back to some of our traditions.

The sooner we get these people out the sooner we can all work on repairing the damage.

by Anonymousreply 348April 22, 2018 5:06 AM

R336 / r337 JFK at Elanor Roosevelt's funeral was probably the last time a sitting president attended a first ladies' funeral. The only other time since then was when Bill Clinton attended the private, graveside blessing of Jackie Kennedy. He skipped the public funeral that Hillary Clinton attended. It really isn't done anymore because arranging security for a sitting president is disruptive to the grieving family.

That said, the least Trump could have done was to stay off twitter firer the day.

by Anonymousreply 349April 22, 2018 8:57 AM

Check out some photos of GHW Bush from around 1953. Gorgeous and clearly a

by Anonymousreply 350April 22, 2018 8:59 AM

Hillary didn't look pissed off in that photo of them all sitting in a pew, she looked like she needed her reading glasses. Reach middle age like me and you'll start seeing all your friends make the same face every time they read a menu.

by Anonymousreply 351April 22, 2018 9:55 AM

WOW! EJ Dione just stated publicly this morning on "AM Joy" that: "It really should be noted that the family of Barbara Bush did not want him (Trump) there."

by Anonymousreply 352April 22, 2018 2:06 PM

The face of Grief.

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by Anonymousreply 353April 22, 2018 2:06 PM

Again Melania seems happier without her husband. I bet it throws her a bit when people treat her with respect and as an adult. I suspect Trump can be very condescending to her.

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by Anonymousreply 354April 22, 2018 2:13 PM

Her fuckink zombie husband pinched my lady ass with his eyes.

Donot tell The Donald. He would heet me.

by Anonymousreply 355April 22, 2018 2:15 PM

Look at that! The image in R354!

by Anonymousreply 356April 22, 2018 2:16 PM

Michelle and Barack both appear to have their hands behind their backs. Very unusual for a group picture like this. And Melania is not touching Michelle either. Compare that with the Bushes and Clintons with their arms around each other.

The body language of both Obamas is, we don’t want to touch her. And Melania and Michelle’s smiles don't reach their eyes. I think that was a very stressful day for them, especially the Obamas. They were forced to interact with her and probably escorted her all day. She was very out of place there and probably didn’t know anyone but the Obamas, and they had no reason to be kind to her after that birther crap. They just did the decent thing and were not overly warm or comfortable with her, judging from the body language in the picture. But they are good at being gracious even when it is undeserved.

by Anonymousreply 357April 22, 2018 2:26 PM

It's hard to not like George W in that picture.

by Anonymousreply 358April 22, 2018 2:38 PM

I'm surprised that one of Carter's kids didn't go, but I guess much antimosity remains.

by Anonymousreply 359April 22, 2018 2:43 PM

One of the Reagan kids should have gone. Daddy Bush was his Vice President!

by Anonymousreply 360April 22, 2018 2:46 PM

In that photo, the Bushes and the Clintons are kind of huddled together as far away from Melania as its possible to get, while Barack is kind of bridging the two sides and Michelle has to be the one next to Melania. I think ordinarily they all would have been closer together behind HW, but they do all seem to be scattering away from the Vairst Letty.

by Anonymousreply 361April 22, 2018 2:48 PM

Look at Melanie’s six inch hooker heels. Those are ridiculous for an occasion where you have to be on your feet a big part of the day. Her feet must be full of bunions and hammertoes, she’s too old to wear those.

by Anonymousreply 362April 22, 2018 2:52 PM

I think Melania is terrified of Trump. That kind of man is sweet as pie until you say 'I do' then the mask comes off. He probably told her (and possibly correctly) that he could send her back to Slovenia, or do bad things to her parents or Barron if she didn't stay in line.

by Anonymousreply 363April 22, 2018 2:53 PM

R71, I don't know if someone else has already posted this, but bringing up Hillary alone is a sign that you've been brainwashed by a right-wing talking point.

"Although Pat Nixon was living in New Jersey at the time of her death, her funeral and burial were conducted at the Nixon Presidential Library in her native southern California. The two former First Ladies who lived relatively close, Betty Ford and Nancy Reagan were in attendance, along with their husbands and the widowed President Nixon. The incumbent First Lady Hillary Clinton sent regrets due to previously scheduled events involving her young daughter. Jacqueline Kennedy Onassis sent a letter to Mrs. Nixon shortly before her death, but did not attend the funeral, nor did the other living Democratic First Ladies, Rosalynn Carter and Lady Bird Johnson. Thus the guest list seemed to divide along partisan lines, which was unusual."

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by Anonymousreply 364April 22, 2018 2:55 PM

Melania is terrified of her own shadow. People like that are timid, introverted and easily bullied. Why do you think Trump chose her?

by Anonymousreply 365April 22, 2018 3:12 PM

The grief of Bar's family appears to be genuine. Hateful woman but at least someone will miss her.

by Anonymousreply 366April 22, 2018 3:15 PM

[quote]It's hard to not like George W in that picture

True, r358. His likeability was never his problem. That was his intellect.

by Anonymousreply 367April 22, 2018 3:19 PM

R364, Nancy liked Betty Ford about as much as she liked Barbara Bush.

by Anonymousreply 368April 22, 2018 3:27 PM

I recall after a dinner with the Gorbachevs Nancy exclaimed to Ronnie about Raisa "Who does that dame think she is!"

Nancy was a vulgar broad who was easily intimidated by other women particularly if they were educated and well spoken. Horrible person.

by Anonymousreply 369April 22, 2018 3:37 PM

R74, what's your impression of George P?I guess no gay or no vibes?

by Anonymousreply 370April 22, 2018 3:41 PM

[quote]Bill is a shadow of his former self. He is a good looking old man, but a frail one.

He spoke at Zell Miller's funeral a couple of weeks ago and he looked much worse. He paused a lot while speaking and hesitated a bit, even though it was a prepared speech, which is very unusual for him. He's a great extemporaneous speaker and it was so odd to see him like this. I wonder if he's been ill recently and is still recovering. His heart problems may persist.

by Anonymousreply 371April 22, 2018 3:47 PM

R370 he was quiet and handsome, in my limited experience. And I watched his reactions (really more like non-reactions) when a liberal professor who had served as a clerk for a liberal Supreme Court justice would occasionally rail against policies of the president at the time. The uncle. You know, W.

As for any rumors or vibes...not me going there.

by Anonymousreply 372April 22, 2018 4:21 PM

Awww. Hillary wore Barbara Bush white beads. I don't think they were pearls. They look similar to what Bar used to wear only a bit smaller.

This was all about politics & optics. I think that when taking photos or being seen in public on TV as they were at church, there was no way Michelle or Barack or any of them were going to look too friendly with Melania. It sends the wrong signal and appearances count. Look at the way we, and the media have been dissecting what little we've seen.

I don't think they snubbed her at the reception. I think they were polite and cordial. No hugs and kisses but no coldness either. They wanted Mellie to go home and report how nice everyone was and kind. And she will. There is no way any of those people wanted to let Trump believe Melania was mistreated in any way.

By being cordial and kind they were sending him a very obvious message. Oh, and I do think Trump is abusive to her. Both mentally and physically. He seems perfectly capable of smacking her in the face if she gets out of line.

by Anonymousreply 373April 22, 2018 4:26 PM

What? They didn't care what M reported backnto Trump. They were decent to her because they're decent people.

by Anonymousreply 374April 22, 2018 4:31 PM

My guess is that Mel was given strict orders not to be photographed embracing any of them. No touching! Deep state!

But she did actually look relaxed and pleasantly engaged with Obama for a few minutes caught on camera. I wonder if trouble ensued when she got back (I almost typed "back home," but you know she hates DC and her current lot in life)

by Anonymousreply 375April 22, 2018 4:32 PM

R372, th8s th

by Anonymousreply 376April 22, 2018 4:34 PM

R375 why would the Obamas embrace Melania? There's no relationship there. The Bushes and Clintons actually do have a friendship.

by Anonymousreply 377April 22, 2018 4:41 PM

As do the younger Bushes and the Obamas... W and Michelle have a very affectionate relationship.

by Anonymousreply 378April 22, 2018 4:55 PM

R378, the Bushes and Clintons actually get together aside from funerals. While Michelle Obama holds an affection for W, I don't think they see each other socially like with the Clintons.

by Anonymousreply 379April 22, 2018 5:00 PM

You know it, r375. Donald, red-faced and spitting accusations of collusion at her. I can see him then grabbing a cheeseburger out of the bag and squashing it in her face in a circular motion ala Cagney/Mae Murray.

by Anonymousreply 380April 22, 2018 5:00 PM

[quote]Awww. Hillary wore Barbara Bush white beads. I don't think they were pearls. They look similar to what Bar used to wear only a bit smaller.

Apparently, a majority of the women who attended the service wore pearls (real or fake) to honor Barbara Bush.

by Anonymousreply 381April 22, 2018 5:49 PM

"The lower part of her dress (short dress) is black lace"

Bush Senior is mumbling, "I bet I could stick my finger up there and she'd like it".

by Anonymousreply 382April 22, 2018 5:56 PM

As much as I hated Dubya when he was President, I really appreciated how he never criticized Obama. I bet the Obamas did too. I think 90% of the bad Bush administration was the fault of Cheney and Dubya being too dumb and too easy-going to oppose him.ya

Dubya did start PEPFAR which has done enormous good for AIDs patients in sub-Saharan Africa.

by Anonymousreply 383April 22, 2018 6:40 PM

[quote] I think 90% of the bad Bush administration was the fault of Cheney and Dubya being too dumb and too easy-going to oppose him.ya

If you ever had the opportunity to watch Oliver Stone's movie "W" that was exactly his angle. By the time that George Bush realized that things were not going right all of it was already in motion and messes were being created. Also, maybe it was about 3-4 years ago, President Daddy Bush wrote in his book that it was, in his opinion, some of those individuals that served in his son's Administration did not serve the president well.

by Anonymousreply 384April 22, 2018 6:49 PM

Women in Houston were wearing pearls and blue in honor of Barbara Bush. City hall was bathed in royal blue light overnight.

by Anonymousreply 385April 22, 2018 6:53 PM

Michelle and Laura Bush have formed a friendship , and gradually the Obamas the Clintons and the Bush 43 are becoming close. Of course Bill Clinton and 41 are closest of all. Obama and 43 are getting there. Obama once said that while he admires Bill Clinton's political smarts, Bill gets on his nerves because he is ALWAYS talking. This may seem precious, but Obama and Hillary are much closer than Bill and Barack are and it is largely due to the fact that Barack has never got over the way Bill fucked over Hillary. That may sound precious but it's true.

by Anonymousreply 386April 22, 2018 9:44 PM

Bush 43 and Clinton have been friends for a few years now and it's well documented in the media, so, no, it's not that they are gradually becoming close.

by Anonymousreply 387April 22, 2018 10:17 PM

W was a frat party boy. Bet he could still throw an occasional good fuck.

by Anonymousreply 388April 22, 2018 10:17 PM

They all hate the Carters. Bill liked. Nixon.

by Anonymousreply 389April 23, 2018 12:08 AM

George HW has already stipulated that Bill Clinton's supposed to deliver his eulogy. No way will Trump show up.

by Anonymousreply 390April 23, 2018 12:46 AM

R389, why?

by Anonymousreply 391April 23, 2018 12:49 AM

If 41 goes while Trump is in office, Trump goes to the funeral. Sitting Presidents go to the funerals of past Presidents. It is hard to imagine a scheduling conflict that would give Trump a dignified out. He could never allow it to be admitted the family preferred he not attend (and I think the family would grit their teeth and respect the office, if not the occupant, and allow the presence.). But Trump being Trump I could see him playing the security excuse again and staying away, to everyone's great relief.

by Anonymousreply 392April 23, 2018 1:02 AM

Notice Melania's half-clenched fist. Much like President Bush - but he has Parkinson's.

by Anonymousreply 393April 23, 2018 1:12 AM

I can’t figure out why most of you bitter old queens even watched this funeral.

by Anonymousreply 394April 23, 2018 1:18 AM

we wanted to make sure the cunt was really dead

by Anonymousreply 395April 23, 2018 1:22 AM

R399, The Trumans and the Eisenhowers hated each other. On Ike's Inauguration Day in 1953, rather than enter the White House to have the traditional tea with the outgoing POTUS and FLOTUS, Ike and Mamie chose to wait outside in their limo. Truman and Ike rode to the Capitol together in silence.

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by Anonymousreply 396April 23, 2018 1:29 AM

HW is not long for this world. No way he makes it to January 2021, and I'm not optimistic that Trump will be removed from office before then.

by Anonymousreply 397April 23, 2018 1:31 AM

Donald's not going anywhere, but George is.

by Anonymousreply 398April 23, 2018 1:33 AM

I know it's out of place but I just saw it and it made me laugh because it is so true! HEY! Maybe that's why Hillary was pissed yesterday. Trump was tweeting about her instead of being respectful of Barbara Bush!

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by Anonymousreply 399April 23, 2018 1:45 AM

Remember this photo of the First Ladies at some event? It tells several stories -

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by Anonymousreply 400April 23, 2018 1:52 AM

R400, Jackie was still alive, she died the following month.

by Anonymousreply 401April 23, 2018 1:59 AM

Things I didn't know before. All the former Presidents hate Jimmy Carter. He's an 'admirable' person and an annoying asshole.

Lady Bird and Jackie O remained lifelong friends and Lady Bird would go to Martha's Vineyard every summer to stay with Jackie.

The Bushes were friends with LBJ's family. LBJ's daughter Luci is very active in progressive Dem politics in Austin and showed up for a Muslim demonstration there as well as the March for Our Lives.

Laura Bush and her daughters are Democrats. Barbara Bush Jr. is a possibility to take over Planned Parenthood from Cecile Richards.

by Anonymousreply 402April 23, 2018 2:09 AM

Jeff Tiedrich @jefftiedrich @jefftiedrich

add "make Melania smile" to the long list of things Obama can do that Trump can't

Well, President Obama surely scored with that photo (R248)! There's nothing but positive publicity all over the internet! It must be eating Trump up alive!

by Anonymousreply 403April 23, 2018 2:16 AM

[quote]Barbara Bush Jr. is a possibility to take over Planned Parenthood from Cecile Richards.

Really? This is interesting because HW earned the nickname "Rubbers" for his support of PP which he eventually dropped to gain the support of Moral Majority types. Knda fitting, I suppose.

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by Anonymousreply 404April 23, 2018 2:22 AM

what was the occasion [r400]?

by Anonymousreply 405April 23, 2018 2:23 AM

I do feel sad for her husband, for all that I disagree with him politically. Losing your spouse after 73 years of marriage must be gut-wrenching.

by Anonymousreply 406April 23, 2018 2:26 AM

Babs Jr is already in the healthcare industry so PP would be a logical step.

Wiki She is the co-founder and president of a public health-focused nonprofit, Global Health Corps.[11] Global Health Corps provides opportunities for young professionals from diverse backgrounds to work on the front lines of the fight for global health equity.[12] In 2009, Global Health Corps won a Draper Richards Foundation Fellowship.[13] Bush was also chosen as one of the 14 speakers selected from an applicant pool of 1,500 to speak at the TEDx Brooklyn event in December 2010, where she spoke about Global Health Corps.[14]

by Anonymousreply 407April 23, 2018 2:26 AM

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by Anonymousreply 408April 23, 2018 2:31 AM

if the dates are correct r401, the pic was taken on May 11, 1994 and Jackie died the following week on May 19

by Anonymousreply 409April 23, 2018 2:31 AM

Why isn't Babs Jr. married yet? If her funeral wear is any indication she must be hell on wheels at the bars come Friday night.

by Anonymousreply 410April 23, 2018 2:37 AM

R402 that's some good stuff. Give us ore if you have it.

I think the problem with Jimmy is he always follows his own agenda and is not a team player. No matter what the occasion he promotes his own foundation and it's work even when he is on stage supposedly helping with fundraising for hurricane relief with his fellow ex presidents. He's rude too, and ungenerous to them. He seems to feel competitive and likes to toot his own horn so to speak. So generally an unpleasant personality, and very rigid, not easy to get along with. He is always right always has to have the last word. No wonder he and Clinton never got along. He admitted on Larry King, back in the 90's, that he didn't talk to Clinton, when he needed something from the WH he called VP Gore.

by Anonymousreply 411April 23, 2018 2:39 AM

I'm just a big ole Mary. Stuff like this gets to me. I do believe that public service is one of the biggest sacrifices that anyone can make. And, if you do a great job for the people you will be appreciated. I've only seen it twice but I became very emotional when at the end of the Pope's (the one before this one) funeral the pall bearers turned his coffin towards the people and the audience began applauding wildly. the same thing happened at Ted Kennedy's funeral also. Well done. To service well done!!!

It's the same with Queen Elizabeth too. I saw a clip of something where she was standing on stage at some very large stadium. The stadium was filled with various ages and ethnicities. The audience then began to sing "God Save The Queen" to her. Many in the audience sang with such fervor and feeling! There were more than a few who had tears while they sang looking directly her way. And Elizabeth, this small old lady, stood stoically center stage and absorbed it all! Quite moving!

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by Anonymousreply 412April 23, 2018 2:54 AM

Carter is a Naval Academy grad and served as a submarine officer under Admiral Rickover, the "Father of the Nuclear Navy."

Rickover was unpleasant, rigid, and unsociable, and Carter was his top protogee.

This also explains Carter's penchant for micromanagement, the root of most of the disasters in his administration.

by Anonymousreply 413April 23, 2018 4:48 AM

There's a great, gossipy tome called The Presidents' Club which describes the friendships between Presidents.

by Anonymousreply 414April 23, 2018 4:56 AM

No Reagans were there because John Hinkley was a friend of the Bushs.

by Anonymousreply 415April 23, 2018 6:02 AM

DL icon Lisa Whelchel had something to say about Bar....

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by Anonymousreply 416April 23, 2018 6:46 AM

Jimmy Carter's niece, brother Billy's daughter, is married to CNN's Van Jones.

by Anonymousreply 417April 23, 2018 7:21 AM

Wow! That is indeed a fun fact. I wonder what Billy would think. Also wonder if her sibs fared as well.

by Anonymousreply 418April 23, 2018 7:36 AM

Nancy is the best dressed, best groomed and best looking one there in that backstage photo/

Nancy is surrounded by hideous ancient hags married to satanists.

by Anonymousreply 419April 23, 2018 8:24 AM

OK, you guys, I watched the video of the funeral today and made notes to check who was in which pew, who was who, etc. and pass along to someone the various points. So if you use the link below (reset back to the start) , here are the times for particular points: (By the way, the choir was great.)

36:34 2nd row left side, Enter from side door: 3 people (secret service, maybe?) then, Lynda Bird Robb and Chuck Robb, Luci Baines Johnson (& husband?), Susan Ford, Chelsea Clinton, Caroline Kennedy, Ed Schlossberg, Tricia Nixon & husband Ed Cox.

37:34 Choir Sings "Nearer My God to Thee"

41:09 Second row, right (also enter from left side door) - Bush Grandchildren

44:07 First row, left - Enter from left side door. Melania, Barack, Michelle, Bill, Hillary, Brian Mulroney (and a couple others)

48:00 First row, right - Enter from left side door. Bush Family includes Children and spouses of George HW & Barbara, ending with George HW in wheelchair pushed by George W

54:06 Choir "Praise to the Lord"

1:00 Casket brought in procession from the back of church, up the main aisle and positioned in center of main aisle. Pallbearers are Bush grandsons.

1:03 First reading

1:05 Choir "In the Garden"

1:09 Readings by grand-daughters

1:12 - 1:23 John Meachem - Eulogist

1:23 Reading - Barbara Bush

1:25 Choir "Amazing Grace"

1:27 Gospel

1:28 Choir "Amazing Grace" other verses

1:29 - 1:37 Susan Garrett Baker Eulogy

1:37 - 1:44 Jeb Bush Eulogy

1:45 - 1:55 Homily by Pastor

1:55 - 2:00 Choir "The Holy City"

2:01 - 2:02 The Lord's Prayer and The Apostles Creed

2:05 Dorothy Bush Koch - Prayer

2:06 Commendation of Body

2:08 Bishop's Blessing of Body

Around here, pastor requests that all present remain in their pews until instructed.

2:09 - 2:11 Choir - "Joyful, Joyful" as Casket is escorted back down the aisle in procession, again with grandsons as pallbearers. Followed by Bush family with George HW in wheelchair (pushed by George W) in front.

2:12 Row 1, Left side leaves in order they entered: Melania, Barack, Michelle, Bill, Hillary, Brian Mulroney, etc.

At this time, the congregation is still seated in the church as the casket is loaded into the hearse with Bush Family watching.

By this time the NBC guys are talking which, thankfully, they mostly did not, during the service.

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by Anonymousreply 420April 23, 2018 8:25 AM

Trump and his craven bastards have been pounding on Hillary relentlessly. They intend to make her the focus of the Midterms. Do the American people not see how this relentless persecution of your political opponents is very unAmerican, very much like what happens in dictatorships and authoritarian governments? It is a disgrace and ought to be illegal if it isn't already. And the behavior of Congress is beyond shameful. I wouldn't blame Hillary and Bill for not wanting to be in the same space as Melania. And they all know by now for sure if they weren't aware before, but the Obamas and the Clintons and Bush 43 know what has been going on with Trump, his cabinet the "new" GOP Congress and the Russians. They all get national security briefings and they all are well aware of the dots being connected through this investigation. Melania probably knows less than anyone in Trump's world except maybe Barron, about what is going on, but you can bet Michelle and Laura Bush as well as all the others know.

by Anonymousreply 421April 23, 2018 9:20 AM

Babs knew how to go! A good, stiff glass.

[quote]Former first lady Barbara Bush lived out her final days at home, surrounded by family. She died Tuesday night at age 92.

[quote]The night before, Bush was alert and was having conversations — along with a glass of bourbon — despite her COPD making it difficult for her to breathe, a source close to the family told Jenna Gibson of CBS News.

by Anonymousreply 422April 23, 2018 9:34 AM

One of the stories from the funeral (told, I think, by Tom Brokaw) was about the last visit to Barbara of their friends the Bakers.

George HW asked for Vodka Martinis for all, and Bar asked for a Manhattan instead. Brokaw said that a Manhattan is stronger than a Vodka Martini and it is a pretty strong drink.

by Anonymousreply 423April 23, 2018 9:45 AM

A Manhattan is sweeter and goes down easier. Despite the Bar "Beautiful Mind" stuff, she was known as most beloved among the White House "help," the workers that made them look good,

Yashar Ali 🐘 ‏ Verified account

@yashar Following Following @yashar More The staff at the White House, ushers, housekeepers, groundskeepers, etc absolutely adore Mrs. Bush...that tells you a lot about a person.

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by Anonymousreply 424April 23, 2018 10:04 AM

Did Bar finally euthanize herself like Jackie O did?

by Anonymousreply 425April 23, 2018 10:07 AM

Tissue! I need tissue, DAMN IT!!!

The image:

Seen en route to College Station and @Bush41Library.

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by Anonymousreply 426April 23, 2018 2:35 PM

‘Morning Joe’ host: Trump tweeting during Barbara Bush funeral ‘insulting’ to US

Hosts on MSNBC’s “Morning Joe” on Monday ripped President Trump for tweeting on Saturday during the funeral of former first lady Barbara Bush.

Host Mika Brzezinski called Trump’s tweets “especially insulting to the United States of America” on a day “the world said goodbye to Barbara Bush.”

Panelist Mike Barnicle referenced a photo that went viral after the funeral showing current first lady Melania Trump; former Presidents George H.W. Bush, Bill Clinton, George W. Bush and Barack Obama; and former first ladies Hillary Clinton, Laura Bush and Michelle Obama.

“It’s a reminder of who we used to be as a government and as people who participated in politics,” Barnicle said.

“That’s the America that the president of the United States denigrated Saturday during a funeral service with his tweets, many of which are outright lies,” he added.

Trump did not attend Bush's funeral on Saturday, and instead watched from his Mar-a-Lago property in Florida. While he did not tweet during the church service portion of the funeral, he sent multiple tweets in the hours that followed.

One tweet mocked a recent Democratic National Committee lawsuit over hacked emails.

Another, sent a short time later, attacked former FBI Director James Comey and accused him of breaking the law by leaking classified memos.

Trump's third tweet on Saturday afternoon bashed The Washington Post for a report that Trump calls Attorney General Jeff Sessions "Mr. Magoo" and Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein "Mr. Peepers."

by Anonymousreply 427April 23, 2018 2:47 PM

God, forgive me, but that sailor is making me feel a little....

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by Anonymousreply 428April 23, 2018 2:54 PM
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by Anonymousreply 429April 23, 2018 2:58 PM

Bottom right corner at R428 -- Who's flashing her ass?

by Anonymousreply 430April 23, 2018 3:06 PM

Wonderful!

“The American Dream is about equal opportunity for everyone who works hard. If we don’t give everyone the ability to simply read and write, then we aren’t giving everyone an equal chance to succeed.”

-Barbara Bush

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by Anonymousreply 431April 23, 2018 3:06 PM

Grandma!

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by Anonymousreply 432April 23, 2018 3:08 PM

Trump will not be able to attend HW's funeral because of.......

by Anonymousreply 433April 23, 2018 3:28 PM

Gerald Ford and Jimmy Carter became close friends after the election. Strange that the only president who got on with Jimmy Carter was the one who lost his presidency to him.

Also, Ford and Reagan supposedly strongly disliked each other behind the scenes.

by Anonymousreply 434April 23, 2018 3:52 PM

The thing about Carter is that he decides what he thinks is right, does his own thing and always has. If you read Presidents Club there's various points where Carter went off on his own in a foreign country and caused headaches for the present Administration.

[quote] Lady Bird and Jackie O remained lifelong friends and Lady Bird would go to Martha's Vineyard every summer to stay with Jackie.

That's not entirely accurate. Lady Bird visited Martha's Vineyard for many years and would visit with Jackie, but she didn't stay with her to my knowledge. She would rent an apartment. Lady Bird was the only former First Lady invited to Jackie's funeral. Hillary was was First Lady attended. Jackie never did any of the reunions of first ladies or presidents. There were numerous times when she was alive where they all gathered (mostly at library openings) and she never attended.

[quote] [R399], The Trumans and the Eisenhowers hated each other. On Ike's Inauguration Day in 1953, rather than enter the White House to have the traditional tea with the outgoing POTUS and FLOTUS, Ike and Mamie chose to wait outside in their limo. Truman and Ike rode to the Capitol together in silence.

This is true, however after the Kennedy funeral they shared a car home and the Trumans invited the Eisenhowers into their home and had what was said to be a very enjoyable time.

[quote] Gerald Ford and Jimmy Carter became close friends after the election. Strange that the only president who got on with Jimmy Carter was the one who lost his presidency to him.

Reagan sent Carter, Nixon and Ford to Sadat's funeral. Nixon left the caravan to go to some other country (which caught the Reagan White House by total surprise) and Carter and Ford chatted the whole way home. It became a lifelong friendship. that was probably one of the closest we've ever seen.

[quote] Also, Ford and Reagan supposedly strongly disliked each other behind the scenes.

Well they were very competitive. Recall, Reagan challenged Ford, who was a sitting President for a second term in 1976. Recall how annoyed people are at Bernie and Hillary wasn't even in office.

by Anonymousreply 435April 23, 2018 4:09 PM

[quote] ... after the Kennedy funeral they shared a car home and the Trumans invited the Eisenhowers into their home and had what was said to be a very enjoyable time.

I read only recently that both Truman and Eisenhower thought JFK's funeral was way, way over the top and way beyond appropriate for whatever accomplishments JFK had made.

Given the mood at the time, it's hardly surprising that their opinions were never revealed at the time.

But, on reflection, they were right.

Jackie, obviously suffering from PTSD, was intent on securing a legacy for her husband. And it was not long after that she gave the "Camelot" tale to Theodore H White. I was a "true believer" at the time and bought it all hook, line and sinker. But as more and more came out about what really went on in the White House under JFK's watch, the idea of JFK and Jackie sitting together at night listening to records, is more and more ridiculous. Along with that, I would not be surprised to discover that Jackie eventually rued the day she came up with that whole idea as it followed her for the rest of her life and the lives of her children.

by Anonymousreply 436April 23, 2018 4:28 PM

Oh, I disagree. I thought after the horror of the assassination, and the murder of Oswald on live TV, it was important and oddly comforting to be able to watch the pageantry of a state funeral. Kennedy didn't die of old age or after a long illness. He was assassinated inside the United States, right out in public, in broad daylight. Looking at the Zapruder film, and at photos and video from that day, it is stunning to see how he was riding in an open car plainly visible and waving and smiling, and moments later there was a mist of blood and brain matter and the First Lady, who's reputation for poise and grace, etc. climbing on top of the trunk of the Limo, etc. No. We need to have that funeral unfold exactly as it did. I applaud Jackie for that.

by Anonymousreply 437April 23, 2018 4:40 PM

We notice that Laura "Pickles" Bush has cankles!

by Anonymousreply 438April 23, 2018 5:00 PM

FUNNY!!!

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by Anonymousreply 439April 23, 2018 5:19 PM

The NY Times ' reporting on the funeral Mass and Arlington burial on Jaqueline Kennedy Onassis.

First Lady Hillary Clinton and former FL Ladybird Johnson were at the Church (lovely that Mrs Johnson walked the front steps with a cane, rather than being brought around back). Ted Kennedy eulogized and Maurice T read a favorite poem of Jackie's.

At the burial, President Bill Clinton was present and gave a well-regarded eulogy.

In her last summer, Jackie had hosted Bill and Hillary for a sailboat ride off her Martha's Vineyard home.

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by Anonymousreply 440April 23, 2018 5:22 PM

Truman and Eisenhower were competent Presidents. But from the get-go of Kennedy's campaign, they were jealous of him. Ike was really upset that JFK won and was mostly as ass to President Kennedy. Did you ever hear the recording of the phone call when Kenndy called Eisenhower for advice and Ike wouldn't really give an answer? And we all know what Mamie did to Jackie! My bet would be Bess and Mamie were ashamed at how they each of them decorated that tacky White House. So I don't want to hear their comments about either Kennedy's.

by Anonymousreply 441April 23, 2018 5:33 PM

Beautiful tweet by her foundation. Very nice image too!

Barbara Bush Foundation for Family Literacy @BarbaraBushFdn @BarbaraBushFdn

You left each of us so much and taught us about the importance of family, about caring for everyone, about passion for doing what's right, and about living life with purpose and grace. And for all that, we give you our thanks.

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by Anonymousreply 442April 23, 2018 5:40 PM

Both Truman and Eisenhower were satanist mass-murderers now burning in hell.

(But an Indian sage believes that Eisenhower has been re-incarnated as a one-celled amoeba!)

by Anonymousreply 443April 23, 2018 5:44 PM

[quote] So I don't want to hear their comments about either Kennedy's

Oh, brother. Get real.

And there is no apostrophe for the "Kennedys".

by Anonymousreply 444April 23, 2018 6:02 PM

Some actually useful information from Paris Dennard;

PARIS Verified account @PARISDENNARD @PARISDENNARD

If you want to purchase these socks worn by President @GeorgeHWBush you can do so from @JohnsCrazySocks & they will donate $2 to the @BarbaraBushFdn in memory of #BarbaraBush

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by Anonymousreply 445April 23, 2018 11:53 PM

This is fast.

I was taught that you had to wait a year before you installed a headstone in order to let the coffin settle in the ground. I guess that was the incorrect information.

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by Anonymousreply 446April 23, 2018 11:59 PM

Winner!

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by Anonymousreply 447April 25, 2018 2:26 AM

Has there been any update on HW's condition? Is he still in the hospital?

by Anonymousreply 448April 25, 2018 4:08 AM

R447 how wonderful...

by Anonymousreply 449April 25, 2018 4:09 PM

He's still in the ICU, R448. But, he is alert and talking.

by Anonymousreply 450April 25, 2018 4:11 PM

Remember when she wore beige to Reagan's funeral?

by Anonymousreply 451April 25, 2018 5:50 PM

[quote]Remember when she wore beige to Reagan's funeral?

Tee-Hee-Hee....

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by Anonymousreply 452April 25, 2018 5:57 PM

Why is Hillary wearing an coat indoors?

We suspect he has to cover the bulge from a 'bag'.

Discuss!

by Anonymousreply 453April 26, 2018 9:37 AM
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