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REAL HOUSEWIVES OF NEW YORK S10 THREAD 3: Rey of Light

Make it nice

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by Anonymousreply 601May 2, 2018 3:40 PM

Link to previous thread

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by Anonymousreply 1April 10, 2018 12:42 PM

Thank you OP and r1 for link to previous thread.

by Anonymousreply 2April 10, 2018 12:52 PM

Rey is a RHONY icon!

by Anonymousreply 3April 10, 2018 1:00 PM

So what is the scoop on that pic from the previous thread? I'm assuming this airs Wednesday because Dorinda was listed as a guest.

by Anonymousreply 4April 10, 2018 1:01 PM

The show has Dorinda plus “Mystery Guests” on Wed

Andy’s frantic desperation in that huge theater is fun to watch. Flop sweat.

by Anonymousreply 5April 10, 2018 1:10 PM

His middle school, slumber-party antics don't play well for a large audience.

by Anonymousreply 6April 10, 2018 1:19 PM

He was running around like a lunatic last night. Ricky Martin and Milo V weren’t helping. They both seemed so embarrassed to be there.

by Anonymousreply 7April 10, 2018 1:22 PM

He really is pathetic. A D-lister with a stable full of aging Z-list women, all of them famous for being tacky fools.

by Anonymousreply 8April 10, 2018 1:33 PM

YASSS to sassy Rey

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by Anonymousreply 9April 10, 2018 1:37 PM

“The Vandepump Kids” were in the audience last night. Like the Mickey Mouse Club, they exist as an anonymous group of attractive, smiling young people. With Herpes.

by Anonymousreply 10April 10, 2018 1:45 PM

John seemed slimier than ever at that party.

by Anonymousreply 11April 10, 2018 1:49 PM

Kids indeed and there is 35 year old Kristin

by Anonymousreply 12April 10, 2018 9:51 PM

I am the only kid on Bravo.

by Anonymousreply 13April 10, 2018 11:36 PM

Holy fuck. Lu looks amazing!

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by Anonymousreply 14April 10, 2018 11:37 PM

It's all the eggs a la francaise

by Anonymousreply 15April 11, 2018 1:12 AM

There's a new skinny girl in town, B!

by Anonymousreply 16April 11, 2018 1:42 AM

I haven't watched season 10 yet. Does REY make an appearance? I miss him and he needs his own show.

by Anonymousreply 17April 11, 2018 2:59 AM

Rey swept Bethenny off her feet. He’s adopting Brynn and living in her Hamptons house.

by Anonymousreply 18April 11, 2018 3:07 AM

Oh, Carole!

I'm sure they just covered the Amelia Earhart saga in her Fall Semester American Studies 101 course, prompting her great Hallowe'en costume! Peek-a-boo, girl...we got your number!

What a delight she is!

by Anonymousreply 19April 11, 2018 5:26 AM

I need the NY antics tonight after the boring BH

by Anonymousreply 20April 11, 2018 12:18 PM

Karen Duffy!

But they didn’t show her face. Is she still sick?

by Anonymousreply 21April 12, 2018 2:00 AM

I see Bethenny is cozying up to Luann now

by Anonymousreply 22April 12, 2018 3:10 AM

Good god - how many pulled faces can WWHL fit on one stage? Dina Manzo is unrecognizable.

by Anonymousreply 23April 12, 2018 3:11 AM

Money Can’t Buy You Class! I love Lu.

by Anonymousreply 24April 12, 2018 3:30 AM

Next week looks lit!

by Anonymousreply 25April 12, 2018 3:35 AM

Poor Lu, the photo of her in her white bikini is bitter sweet. It's only a matter of time before she's bitten by the bottle, again -

by Anonymousreply 26April 12, 2018 3:35 AM

Dayum, that is one janky-ass hotel room Lu is dancing around in @ R14.

by Anonymousreply 27April 12, 2018 3:38 AM

I mean kadooze to Carole but I always feel like her storylines are so boring.

by Anonymousreply 28April 12, 2018 3:40 AM

I'm loathe to admit it, r28, but I offer a genuine heartfelt kadooze to Carole. I was impressed.

by Anonymousreply 29April 12, 2018 3:42 AM

Cute

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by Anonymousreply 30April 12, 2018 3:44 AM

How many of you NY hos have been to Sonja's gay parties?

by Anonymousreply 31April 12, 2018 3:59 AM

That party looked awful.

And completely fake and contrived...never mentioned until tonight...Sure, Jan.

by Anonymousreply 32April 12, 2018 4:05 AM

I'm dying to find a torrent or a streaming link to tonight's episode. Don't know what's going on with these uploaders, usually any episode of a popular Bravo show is online within 2 hours of airing. I've scoured all the sites I know of and it's still not uploaded.

by Anonymousreply 33April 12, 2018 5:58 AM

Ramona in skinnygirl colors?

by Anonymousreply 34April 12, 2018 6:10 AM

R32 fake and contrived like everything else about Sonja. So she has gay parties yet she went out and voted for Trump/Pence

and her attempts to start feuds with Dorinda and Tinsley are so transparent. She's desperate and pathetic. Sonja brings the show down and needs to be fired. I don't know why they keep bringing her back. I don't find her entertaining at all

by Anonymousreply 35April 12, 2018 6:43 AM

I've had gay parties for 12 DAYS and somehow Bravo has managed to infiltrate them.

by Anonymousreply 36April 12, 2018 7:35 AM

so we see in the trailer that Carole and LuAnn clash a lot again this season yet tonight on WWHL they were sitting next to each other on the couch and were chatting quite cordially...makes their upcoming feud seem tame I guess

by Anonymousreply 37April 12, 2018 8:40 AM

I don't know why they don't just bring Heather back as a friend of. She's clearly pining to be back in the scene in some capacity and it's the only real ally Carole has.

by Anonymousreply 38April 12, 2018 9:29 AM

Most "wtf" moment of the episode that's clearly a nod for the viewers to draw a conclusion: Sonja arriving at the 8 AM MORNING WALK with Dorinda in a full jumpsuit and thigh high boots. Bitch just casually segued her walk of shame from some hookup into a morning walk with a friend.

by Anonymousreply 39April 12, 2018 9:52 AM

LuAnn reminded me eerily of Carrie Fisher this episode, especially during dinner with Tinsley.

by Anonymousreply 40April 12, 2018 10:59 AM

r32, fake and contrived on HWs show? I won't believe it!

by Anonymousreply 41April 12, 2018 11:57 AM

I did chuckle at Luann's comment about Carole and her "boy toy"

by Anonymousreply 42April 12, 2018 12:06 PM

I guess they all do some version of this, but Luann regularly gets righteously indignant about some perceived slight and blatantly lies about the whole thing.

Mrs. Jill Zarin has now stated openly on IG that she wants to come back as a "fwend" of the housewives, implicitly encouraging all her fans to lobby Andy. She turned up on Andy's 31 doorbells extravaganza in a tennis dress, carrying a racquet.

by Anonymousreply 43April 12, 2018 12:10 PM

Is it really just all his decision though? I doubt it. If it was solely up to him, Brandi would be back on BH.

by Anonymousreply 44April 12, 2018 12:13 PM

Tinsley s fake anger at LuAnn about the marriage to Tom and Lu’s refusal to talk about it...not even stupid fake fun, just stupid fakeness and atrocious acting.

by Anonymousreply 45April 12, 2018 12:19 PM

It may not be completely up to Andy, [r44], but it's not a bad way to focus her fans' enthusiasm.

They all seem even faker and less credible this season; the only segment that seemed remotely real last night was the marathon finish line. Although now that I think of it, Carole said earlier in the program that Anthony ran the marathon before she knew him, but then at the end when she donned her widow's weeds she was lamenting that she hadn't had a celebration for him when he did it. Wha?

by Anonymousreply 46April 12, 2018 12:25 PM

All of the franchises are becoming way overproduced.

by Anonymousreply 47April 12, 2018 12:50 PM

Jill has been trying to cultivate those relationships with Ramona and Bethenny. I can possibly see it happening.

by Anonymousreply 48April 12, 2018 1:10 PM

I think it will happen--she won't rest until it does. And either she has real "fans" who sing her praises on social media or a whole cadre of Susan Saunderses on her payroll to keep the pressure up. Public exposure is oxygen to this woman; she needs us to Look At Her all the time. I don't think it's normal behavior to invite TV cameras to your beloved husband's funeral service, nor to post private video of yourself and your (embarrassed) family members in the van driving away from the cemetery.

by Anonymousreply 49April 12, 2018 1:17 PM

The problem is she will be on her best behavior which won't make for good tv anyway.

by Anonymousreply 50April 12, 2018 1:29 PM

Jill's first move would be going in on the weakest member of the cast (a la Alex). Probably Tinsley, although she'd be intimidated by her pedigree. She'd never be queen but would be happy as the right arm of the alpha bitch.

by Anonymousreply 51April 12, 2018 1:32 PM

It’s so painfully obvious that none of these women like each other and only tolerate each other for the show. I mean, do you like your coworkers??? That’s all they are really.

by Anonymousreply 52April 12, 2018 1:35 PM

How much bad plastic surgery?

Luann and Jill look good.

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by Anonymousreply 53April 12, 2018 1:52 PM

Carole’s an idiot but I’ll defend her for a moment.

She said that even though Anthony ran the marathon before they met, he would frequently bring it up in conversations for years and years afterward. Instead of ooohing and ahhhhhing over his big accomplishment, Carole brushed it off as no big deal and changed the subject or rolled her eyes.

Now, having run the marathon herself, she understands why it’s such a big deal. She regrets not acknowledging that for A while he was alive.

by Anonymousreply 54April 12, 2018 3:03 PM

Jeana from the OC - that is not a good facelift

Dina looks nothing like herself.

Gretchen and Vicki are frozen solid

Adriene maloof = cat lady

by Anonymousreply 55April 12, 2018 3:08 PM

Got it, [R54]; thanks.

Re Jill/best behavior: she can't maintain any kind of decent behavior for very long. The long knives will be out by the second episode, and she'll be out to annihilate everyone. Chances are she'll try to make an alliance with Doris, who really is the queen bee and most admired member of that cast, and also the biggest shit-stirrer (witness last night) and thus useful to Jill. Then she'll begin destroying everyone else, starting with Sonja, who's the weakest link and the easiest to pick off. I don't know what she'll do about Ramoaner--they actually do move in the same D-list social circle during the off season. Bethenny might just pack her bags and spare herself the aggravation.

by Anonymousreply 56April 12, 2018 3:37 PM

What's with Tinsley's Peter Pan collars on every outfit?

And Sonja's staged "gay party" was depressing.

by Anonymousreply 57April 12, 2018 3:47 PM

Sonja's depressing. I do think they should nudge her toward the exit.

by Anonymousreply 58April 12, 2018 3:49 PM

r56, I don't think you are giving her enough credit as to sculpting an image. She would be in extreme ass-kissing mode to all of them. Trust.

by Anonymousreply 59April 12, 2018 3:55 PM

R39 it probably wasn't really 8 AM

by Anonymousreply 60April 12, 2018 4:13 PM

r60, exactly. Which would mean Dorinda met with Bethenny at what? 6 am? LMAO.

by Anonymousreply 61April 12, 2018 4:18 PM

R61 right. We have to remember that they lie about a lot of dumb little things. It's like on a reality show if they show someone walking into a room/area alone and he/she looks scared...that person isn't really alone as a camera crew is in front of him/her. They lie about what time it is quite often too

by Anonymousreply 62April 12, 2018 4:29 PM

or when they film someone "going to bed" or "waking up". Obviously they aren't really doing that with the camera crew there. They pretend they're doing it for the scene

by Anonymousreply 63April 12, 2018 4:30 PM

[R59] I hear you, but I have absolute faith in Jill's competitive nature, to say nothing of her nastiness and thirst.

Time will tell.....

by Anonymousreply 64April 12, 2018 4:48 PM

It's often hard to tell how much power Cohen has. He likes to brush off any BTS control so he can maintain an "objective" for WWHL and act as observer.

by Anonymousreply 65April 12, 2018 5:06 PM

Do we think they faked a breakup so they wouldn't have to film their relationship?

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by Anonymousreply 66April 12, 2018 5:08 PM

The only positive I have to say about Tinsley is that whatever work she's had done is tasteful and quality. Her facial skin is amazingly smooth. No wrinkles or sagging and she doesn't look overly plumped. If I didn't know she was 41 I'd think she was early 30s.

by Anonymousreply 67April 12, 2018 5:12 PM

She looks 60

by Anonymousreply 68April 12, 2018 5:18 PM

How much coke or adderall did Sonja do before her walk with Dorinda? Jesus, I wanted to slap her hard.

by Anonymousreply 69April 12, 2018 5:29 PM

R35 I totally agree. All contrived and planned, the opposite of Reality TV.

And the sooner they get rid of mental case Sonja, the better.

by Anonymousreply 70April 12, 2018 5:32 PM

At this point Sonja has no entertainment value, to say nothing of any redeeming social value. Not that the others have a lot, but Sonja's in the negative column.

by Anonymousreply 71April 12, 2018 5:46 PM

What isn't contrived and planned on these shows anymore?

by Anonymousreply 72April 12, 2018 6:16 PM

What a sad collection of gay D-listers that party was.

by Anonymousreply 73April 12, 2018 9:52 PM

ratings down this week

by Anonymousreply 74April 12, 2018 11:18 PM

is that significant or is there a normal fluctuation that would account for it?

That WWHL with all the former (and some present) housewives was ridiculous--just a mob scene on stage. Jill Z. got no face time at all, but Luann got to sing that odious Money Can't Buy You Class. I wonder what she does in her "cabaret show" with no autotune available.....

by Anonymousreply 75April 12, 2018 11:25 PM

Not a huge drop but still a drop. Both demo and total viewers down. I mean this episode was pretty dull. The premiere had more action in it. Next episode will probably go up again.

.46 1.39 .42 1.27

by Anonymousreply 76April 12, 2018 11:32 PM

I would guess that the premiere of any new season gets high viewership because fans have been deprived for a long period of time, and/or are curious about what the new season's going to look like (and even what the new hashtags are). Maybe the curious drop back by the second episode. But it's certainly true that last night's show wasn't a gripping drama.

by Anonymousreply 77April 12, 2018 11:38 PM

I almost choked when Sonja said, "Sometimes you want to get shitfaced, and sometimes you just want to get pounded!"

Damn, I can totally relate. But it was quite a surprise, coming out of her mouth.

by Anonymousreply 78April 13, 2018 12:26 AM

The trend for NY for the last several seasons is start slow and build. That being said, the premiere was actually up vs last season's premiere. NY is the franchise with the biggest fluctuations.

by Anonymousreply 79April 13, 2018 1:17 AM

r73, so then Miss Cohen was in attendance?

by Anonymousreply 80April 13, 2018 1:18 AM

Jill is going for it.

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by Anonymousreply 81April 13, 2018 1:19 AM

Sonja thinks like all the hos on DL, r78

by Anonymousreply 82April 13, 2018 1:21 AM

In addition to inciting her fans to lean on Andy, she's playing the widow card. She's completely transparent, but these sycophants who follow her just buy into her bullshit.

by Anonymousreply 83April 13, 2018 1:22 AM

Carole goes in Luann!

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by Anonymousreply 84April 13, 2018 1:24 AM

*IN ON

by Anonymousreply 85April 13, 2018 1:24 AM

r83, honestly I can't see why they wouldn't just test her as a friend next season without making any firm commitments. I am sure I believe that Andy is almighty power either.

by Anonymousreply 86April 13, 2018 1:27 AM

R32 - totally. Another Sonja lie - an ongoing Wed night gay party at her townhouse? Suchhh bullshit. And the guys were overplaying it.

by Anonymousreply 87April 13, 2018 1:28 AM

Start a different thread for your boring Jill obsession

by Anonymousreply 88April 13, 2018 1:32 AM

^ I agree. The Jill Troll is getting very annoying. Next comment she makes I am blocking her.

by Anonymousreply 89April 13, 2018 2:53 AM

I swear this thread would implode if she actually came back.

by Anonymousreply 90April 13, 2018 3:30 AM

Well, at least we don't have to watch Carole train for the marathon for multiple episodes...

by Anonymousreply 91April 13, 2018 12:15 PM

R83 She pays for followers.

by Anonymousreply 92April 13, 2018 12:30 PM

I see Bethenny will be on team Luann/Sonja. I wonder if Bethenny will actually defend Lu to Carole.

by Anonymousreply 93April 13, 2018 3:07 PM

I don't see how Bethenny can possibly ally herself with those two and not have a bolt of lightning strike her dead.

by Anonymousreply 94April 13, 2018 3:53 PM

r94, because she will be at odds with Carole and cannot tolerate Ramona, so who is left?

by Anonymousreply 95April 13, 2018 5:44 PM

A part of me wants to believe someone BTS was reading these threads and actually forced Carole to earn her check this season.

by Anonymousreply 96April 13, 2018 5:48 PM

Sonja is just awful. And a real cunt still apparently.

I'm already liking this new Bethenny-LuAnn alliance. NY always brings it and, just two eps in, I'm definitely already enjoying the proceedings.

by Anonymousreply 97April 13, 2018 5:56 PM

Dear Luann,

#NeverForget

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by Anonymousreply 98April 13, 2018 6:08 PM

And this is why I think such an alliance won't be credible--or sustainable. LuAnn never forgets a slight--and neither does Bethenny.

by Anonymousreply 99April 13, 2018 6:14 PM

Alliance? I think they were just hanging out and having fun. This is not the BH chess game.

by Anonymousreply 100April 13, 2018 8:01 PM

People did a makeup free housewvies' feature. From RHONYC all appear except for Bethenny and Tinsley

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by Anonymousreply 101April 13, 2018 9:17 PM

R101 Sonja looks like a fucking horse. What an ugly, delusional and nasty cunt. Does she still do her interns shtick (what fucking college is signing off on this? Who are the retards that don't quit after 2 weeks?) ?

by Anonymousreply 102April 13, 2018 9:36 PM

Some of them are wearing makeup especially Ramona.

by Anonymousreply 103April 13, 2018 9:37 PM

Are they keeping Sonja on out of pity? She can get a real job like the rest of us.

by Anonymousreply 104April 13, 2018 9:38 PM

R98 Most of these women don't see each other outside of filming.

by Anonymousreply 105April 13, 2018 9:40 PM

I doubt seriously that Sonja could hold down any kind of real job. I can't imagine what will happen to her when this show dries up (or she's booted off); when the daughter's out of college (or maybe even now since she's not living at home) I would imagine the child support stops and she's got no income. Presumably she has no savings.

by Anonymousreply 106April 13, 2018 10:18 PM

R106 Sonja is probably working overtime to find a very rich man for her daughter to marry before she's 30

by Anonymousreply 107April 13, 2018 10:26 PM

I honestly feel like Sonja keeps mum about hidden assets. Like a *real* retirement fund that she'll never reveal.

by Anonymousreply 108April 13, 2018 10:36 PM

wouldn't the bankruptcy proceeding exposed all funds? i think she's too irresponsible to have planned ahead.

by Anonymousreply 109April 13, 2018 10:40 PM

R108 I doubt it. Sociopaths are really, really bad with money. Even if they happen to have a lot of money they have poor financial skills and are bad about managing it. Her "friends" are all shallow and superficial so they'll likely abandon her when she's broke, ugly and has nothing to offer them---in 5-10 years. Once the aging process really kicks in, somewhere around age 58-60, she'll end up ugly, broke and mostly alone.

by Anonymousreply 110April 13, 2018 10:53 PM

R110 The French pet gay of hers is the most pathetic. Many of her interns strike me as 'slow'.

by Anonymousreply 111April 13, 2018 11:05 PM

[quote] I honestly feel like Sonja keeps mum about hidden assets. Like a *real* retirement fund that she'll never reveal.

Yeah, her retirement fund is JPM.

I think that he'll be her benefactor, for life. Especially because they have a daughter together. She might even be in his will.

Otherwise, she'd be the "Sheree" of New York City.

by Anonymousreply 112April 14, 2018 1:08 AM

Sonja can probably suck the chrome off a tail pipe.

by Anonymousreply 113April 14, 2018 1:32 AM

It's not likely Sonja was awarded alimony and if she was I doubt it would be 'for life' since they did not have a long-term marriage and she did not enable/help him acquire his wealth. Sh was a hostess or cocktail waitress (something like that) when they met, living paycheck to paycheck.

As far as child support that stops when the kids are 18 or 19 and/or out of college if they attend college. He probably would have been required to pay for his children's schooling, but nothing beyond that. I doubt Sonja has money stashed away or that she can bleed her ex for more money. The way she blows money and doesn't have anything coming in other than the HW check, not too mention she's stupid, I think she'll eventually go under. She was sued by many people who had strong cases against her and as a result they won.

She also lost the villa in France to one of the many lawsuits she brought on and got herself into with her endless lies and deceit. So she doesn't have that real estate asset to depend upon. She's a pathological liar. Can't believe anything she says, such as maybe she'll rent out her NY townhouse and buy another place. Please. That townhouse is all she's got at this point. And the HOA / maintenance / taxes on that outdated hole are sky high. Within 10 years Soniarita will be el broko.

by Anonymousreply 114April 14, 2018 1:51 AM

This interview/article about the joke Sonja/Sonja Productions played on these people that cost them $ hundreds of thousands is long, but worth the time to read, along with the comment section which is quite insightful. Sonja is a grifter. A classic sociopath.

BTW, her husband was disgusted with her when this happened and this fraudulent action turned out to be the last straw in their marriage; he didn't want to be associated with a grifter con artist. Apparently, Sonja had also used his name and wealth to deceive these people as the two were still technically married but were recently separated (not many people knew though) so there was no reason for them to think Sonja wasn't good for the money or really didn't have the money to invest. Her soon-to-be-ex was angry with her for pulling this shit and would not bail her out for defrauding these people.

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by Anonymousreply 115April 14, 2018 7:41 AM

I can’t stand Sonja but she is right about Tinsley. Even when she was a top social she expected to get everything for free, never even paid for a single benefit ticket (others on her level did). And her quest to land a rich guy like this Scott is so terrinly transparent.

by Anonymousreply 116April 14, 2018 7:48 AM

The Jill Troll IS Jill.

by Anonymousreply 117April 14, 2018 9:12 AM

At this point it's just ridiculous to have Sonja still on the show. She's trash, sad, and adds nothing to the show.

R112: I'd say she already IS the "Sheree of New York"--formerly wealthy but fucked it up with shady business dealings, always talking about new business ventures that don't pan out, living in big house she can't afford....etc, etc...

by Anonymousreply 118April 14, 2018 9:34 AM

Does anyone think Carole might be dabbling with women now?

by Anonymousreply 119April 14, 2018 12:54 PM

Did Carole once hint that she's bi, or am I making that up?

by Anonymousreply 120April 14, 2018 12:57 PM

No sane woman would allow Carole’s horse teeth anywhere near her poonani.

by Anonymousreply 121April 14, 2018 2:27 PM

Next week looks good. I love when they are all together.

by Anonymousreply 122April 14, 2018 2:39 PM

Sonja has gay parties? But didn't she vote for Trump? Hypocritical cunt.

by Anonymousreply 123April 14, 2018 3:26 PM

That was, I'm sure, her first and last gay party. Sonja used to be entertaining/fun, now she's tedious and boring.

by Anonymousreply 124April 14, 2018 3:48 PM

You bitches would have loved t be at Sonja's kiki

by Anonymousreply 125April 14, 2018 4:01 PM

R119 Carole does have a bit of a lesbian lisp when she speakssss

by Anonymousreply 126April 14, 2018 5:35 PM

Carole screams dyke.

by Anonymousreply 127April 14, 2018 5:37 PM

I think the Jill Troll is Jill's daughter.

Once her mother was off the show she didn't get the same level of attention and respect from her girlfriends and she desperately wants her mother back on HW, back in the limelight, as it elevates her status with her friends and social circle in general. So I definitely think the Jill posts are her daughter, Ally, not Jill herself or some obsessed Jill fan. Next Jill post gets F&F and Blocked.

by Anonymousreply 128April 14, 2018 5:51 PM

I feel like Sonya's town home would be filled with dust bunnies and cat hair. I'd be afraid to eat.

by Anonymousreply 129April 14, 2018 6:08 PM

As soon as the camera crew left, Sonja booted those gays into the cold UES night. She probably frisked each one to make sure they didn’t try to sneak out with any of the booze that Bravo paid for.

Why was Aquaria there in full drag? Was she performing at Sonja’s party? Or just standing around the party in full paint and hair for “atmosphere” like a clown?

by Anonymousreply 130April 14, 2018 7:01 PM

Are you just theorizing, [r128]? I can't imagine how having a parent on RHOAnywhere could possibly elevate your social status.

by Anonymousreply 131April 14, 2018 10:50 PM

I love how the people who call out trolls don't realize how deranged they also sound.

by Anonymousreply 132April 14, 2018 11:01 PM

Yes, the anti-Jill trolls are worse than the Jill Trolls in your fucked up world obsessed with former reality TV stars

by Anonymousreply 133April 14, 2018 11:34 PM

The thing is, none of these people (the women on RHONY or Andy Cohen) are actually good people, some of them are just less awful than the one they're going up against at different points in the story. Good TV, but most of them are not people you would want to spend any time at all with, I cannot imagine being as narcissistic/mean /judgemental/delusional/two-faced etc. I used to hate Ramona, but at the moment Bethenny (in all her incarnations) is driving me absolutely nuts, I can't quite believe she is a real person.

by Anonymousreply 134April 15, 2018 12:34 AM

Sonja will always have the family business.

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by Anonymousreply 135April 15, 2018 1:18 AM

Are any of you Philly bitches going?

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by Anonymousreply 136April 15, 2018 3:12 PM

Agree these are not people I'd want to spend any time with; they're all odious in one way or another (or many others). They're coarse and vulgar and frequently stupid and mean, yet what amazes me is that each of them has a mob of rabid followers who comment on every post with "Ohh you're so beautiful" and "Ooh I'd give anything to meet you even for a second." What is there about these women that could elicit such responses?

by Anonymousreply 137April 15, 2018 3:17 PM

R137 You should check out the Bravo subreddit. Most pathetic women I've ever seen.

by Anonymousreply 138April 15, 2018 4:04 PM

I don't think I could bear it. But I am really curious to know why anyone so slavishly adores these creatures.

by Anonymousreply 139April 15, 2018 5:01 PM

HWs are the new soap operas. The fanatics follow the show and get invested in their favorites' lives. If you ever knew how rabid some of the soap fans were/are, you know what I mean.

by Anonymousreply 140April 15, 2018 5:32 PM

Some of those (Bravo/Subreddit) comments are coming from them and also from some of their close friends/family.

Those comments serve to draw in emotionally immature women. It attracts immature wannabees who idolize others because they have no other life. They are low-IQers who admire immature, mean-girl clique behaviors because that is what they aspire to be. Most of the Housewives are teenagers in the body of an adult. So are those who admire and idolize them.

by Anonymousreply 141April 15, 2018 5:38 PM

It's not just on Reddit. It's here too, especially in the BH threads.

by Anonymousreply 142April 15, 2018 5:46 PM

Did we see this on SNL last night?

They seem to be doing a lot of Bravo/RH sketches lately, the one with Larry/David/ "Erika Jayne" and more recently with Will Ferrell who was clearly Ken from BH.

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by Anonymousreply 143April 15, 2018 5:49 PM

Housewives has two types of audiences. 1) Those who are mindful and aware but curious and wish to gain insights to their behaviors, learning how toxic people think, relate and interact and what sets them off. They do not idolize them and they are not obsessed with them. They are curious and interested to know how the mind of toxic people and the emotionally stunted actually works, mostly because they have dealt with people like this in their daily lives. They are simultaneously validated and entertained.

And, 2) the other audience are those I described in my R141 post.

by Anonymousreply 144April 15, 2018 6:00 PM

I view the housewives as mostly comedy. I don't get sucked into "the drama". Unless they're talking about a really tragic event like a death or serious illness, I'm gonna laugh.

by Anonymousreply 145April 15, 2018 6:10 PM

^ I don't. Grown women behaving like spoiled, unruly children isn't my idea of comedy. Being a poor role model, as many of them are, and setting a poor example for today's teens and young women, isn't my idea of comedy. We must have a very different sense of humor.

by Anonymousreply 146April 15, 2018 6:14 PM

The Reddit fraus actually idolize Trampara and fat Shannon from RHOC.

by Anonymousreply 147April 15, 2018 6:52 PM

I check into these shows every now and then. I think all of the women on this show - and people who chose to do reality shows, in general - have no real friends. They use the show as a means of have a set of people to pretend they care about, vaguely know, but, in their real life, are lonely and unable to establish legitimate friendships, relationships. If they were, there would be someone in their life to all them they were crazy to to be part of this circus.

I think that woman Bethanny has no one in her life besides hired people who offer her some outlet; otherwise, she's a lonely, very sad, silly woman.

Likewise, any boyfriend or husband on the shows is immediately suspect. They never fully explain what they do, how they make money, and no company would ever have these types working for them. And this is what these people are "those types"

by Anonymousreply 148April 15, 2018 7:08 PM

yikes. I've stopped watching OC so i don't know much about Shannon (shrill, whiny with a particularly mean husband, yes?) but Tamra is trailer trash.

by Anonymousreply 149April 15, 2018 7:10 PM

I agree R148, Bethenny even made reference in an interview to being 'a bit lonely', and it didn't sound like she has real friends that she just meets up with for lunch or a coffee. The irony is the fact that she owns massive houses - I can't believe how lonely it must be to be rattling around in a huge home with a big dining table and no real friends or family to fill it with most of the time, unless she constantly insists her staff work late just to have people around her. Also, as a business women, I would have thought she'd be ashamed of the way she acts in a show that is watched so widely, but she seems to have no shame, which is just weird.

by Anonymousreply 150April 15, 2018 7:23 PM

I also find it funny when the women talk sometimes about who is 'classy'/what is 'classy' behaviour, or, for example, Ramona pretending to be outraged by Alex doing a nude photo shoot. 'Classy' isn't a term I would neccassarily use in my own life, but to me it means having personal integrity, not acting in a way that you would be ashamed of afterwards, treating people well and speaking to them kindly and respectfully, acting in a way that is appropriate in a given set of circumstances, having emotional restraint and the ability to control your own behaviour (especially in public), which most of these women don't do at all. Quite apart from the fact that they are on a reality show in the first place, what most of these women reveal about their personal lives and the way they treat each other is just the opposite of whatever 'classy' is. In fact, just being around people like Ramona and Bethenny would make me nervous because they seem to be so unstable and unpredictable and have zero self-awareness.

by Anonymousreply 151April 15, 2018 8:19 PM

I suspect they think it means related to upper class behavior, or stylish, or elegant. People who use that word often have no clue what it might mean or how to achieve it.

by Anonymousreply 152April 15, 2018 8:22 PM

True R152, there is definitely a relationship between the term and socio-economic status (and therefore elitism/classism) and we know how much the housewives seem to love money and glitz. But even under their own descriptions of 'classy' behaviour they fail - having screaming matches in a restaurant is certainly not elegant. I suspect they haven't thought about it much at all, as you say, and use it as a weapon against other people to make them feel bad (which is definitionally 'unclassy' to me).

by Anonymousreply 153April 15, 2018 8:26 PM

Last week was mostly a filler episode - looks like things pick up next week when they finally all get together!!

by Anonymousreply 154April 15, 2018 9:06 PM

R146 Get a grip. The parents of "today's teens and young women" should be held responsible for setting the example that you are assigning to total strangers on tv. You don't have to like them, but they are not there to raise someone else's children or be examples for you or anyone else. If you don't like the show then don't watch. It's that simple. Also, stay out of threads about these "grown women behaving like spoiled, unruly children" if that's how you feel.

by Anonymousreply 155April 15, 2018 9:10 PM

I agree with you, [r153]. I think it's also not very likely that "classy" women, by any definition, would dress the way these idiots do. Well, maybe Georgette Mosbacher (if you were around in the 80s), but nobody ever accused her of being classy, either--she was a human Jessica Rabbit.

by Anonymousreply 156April 15, 2018 9:33 PM

Currently watching the "Running Your Mouth" episode: as expected, the girls are attired in black-white-red accented UES ensembles, complemented by red-white shopping bags, red applies, white flowers, 'extras' attired in red pullovers, red puffy jackets, etc.

Oh, and Carole is astonished the only cast member who'd contacted her for her marathon tickets is Tinz. (Carole had claimed she's purchased 20 tickets for her fan club - What? No Kennedys?)

by Anonymousreply 157April 15, 2018 10:42 PM

Does Luann's cunt smell like an ashtray?

I bet Bethenny's cunt has teeth.

by Anonymousreply 158April 15, 2018 11:10 PM

Carole would have run a lot faster if she was coming home to this.

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by Anonymousreply 159April 15, 2018 11:25 PM

Love the NYC girls!

by Anonymousreply 160April 16, 2018 12:05 AM

These hags haven't been "girls" since the 70s.

by Anonymousreply 161April 16, 2018 2:15 AM

Where's Mama Heath??

by Anonymousreply 162April 16, 2018 2:20 AM

R161 From an emotional standpoint they're still girls.

by Anonymousreply 163April 16, 2018 2:21 AM

Was Heather at the marathon?

by Anonymousreply 164April 16, 2018 2:29 AM

Harry Dubin and Kenya??!!

by Anonymousreply 165April 16, 2018 11:47 AM

R7 Gay celebrities like Ricky and Matt Bomer always look like they want to die when they're around Andy. He flirts too much and is so unattractive that it makes them uncomfortable.

by Anonymousreply 166April 16, 2018 11:14 PM

Yes the gays who are comfortable around Andy are just like him: the creepy superficial femmes who ogle young hardbodies (Bruce Bozzi)

by Anonymousreply 167April 16, 2018 11:23 PM

They look adorable.

I wonder what the latest is on Mario...

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by Anonymousreply 168April 17, 2018 1:22 AM

[quote] These hags haven't been "girls" since the 70s

Screw you. I'm a young, fresh ingenue, experiencing life in the city as a single gal!

by Anonymousreply 169April 17, 2018 1:27 AM

Get your girl groove on. Don't be uncool!

by Anonymousreply 170April 17, 2018 1:32 AM

I saw Andy interviewing Frederic the realtor guy the other night and he asked him if he had any naked photos of his husband on his phone for him to look at. So amazingly disrespectful and tacky. Bethenny and Andy's shtick seems to be that they have no shame, but to function as socialized adult you need to have the capacity for shame.

by Anonymousreply 171April 17, 2018 1:46 AM

I agree that asking someone to see nudies of their spouse is incredibly tacky and gross but I wouldn’t be surprised if Fred shows naked pics of his husband to one and all.

by Anonymousreply 172April 17, 2018 1:50 AM

Oh please. I ask friends about their bf's dicks. All in good fun.

by Anonymousreply 173April 17, 2018 1:54 AM

Apparently his husband doesn't allow him to take pictures of him anymore, naked or clothed, so you may well be right R172. I think it's entirely possible that working in that environment (especially Andy and The Housewives) they've completely lost touch with cultural norms of privacy and self-regulation.

by Anonymousreply 174April 17, 2018 1:55 AM

[quote] Bethenny and Andy's shtick seems to be that they have no shame, but to function as socialized adult you need to have the capacity for shame

Someone needs to tell that to Donald Dump. Because he has ZERO shame.

[quote] I saw Andy interviewing Frederic the realtor guy the other night and he asked him if he had any naked photos of his husband on his phone for him to look at. So amazingly disrespectful and tacky.

You realize that Fredrik Ecklund was a gay porn whore, don't you?

Tacky is his middle name.

Here's a very NSFW reminder.

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by Anonymousreply 175April 17, 2018 2:01 AM

The stream room sucks without Mario.

by Anonymousreply 176April 17, 2018 2:09 AM

STEAM

by Anonymousreply 177April 17, 2018 2:10 AM

I did know about Frederic's gay porn history but I'd actually forgotten. I suppose I thought that asking to see photos (which imo is different to asking for information) was intrusive to his husband as much as anything - who clearly doesn't like it judging by what Frederic said. Your point about Trump does prove my point though - he doesn't act at all like a socialized adult and his lack of shame is one of the key parts of that I think. It's why he fucked up the standard media approach to lying politicians - on the campaign trail he told such obvious lies all the time and didn't seem to care when he got caught out, he just told even bigger new lies that were similarly transparent.

by Anonymousreply 178April 17, 2018 2:11 AM

Ramona looks great in that pic - I wish she'd stick with that one makeup artist.

by Anonymousreply 179April 17, 2018 2:12 AM

Yep - Andy is only too willing to talk about sex when it's other people. But bring up his own sex life and he will run screaming.

by Anonymousreply 180April 17, 2018 11:53 AM

Bethenny/Carole shade heats up....

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by Anonymousreply 181April 17, 2018 2:14 PM

Mic drop. Thank you very much ( and exit, stage left).

by Anonymousreply 182April 19, 2018 2:12 AM

OMG! I am loving seeing the cracks in the mean girl Bethenny/Carole alliance!

by Anonymousreply 183April 19, 2018 3:09 AM

I feel like Doris just looks for a reason to go off because she thinks that's what the audience wants - Sonja did not even compare the husbands.

by Anonymousreply 184April 19, 2018 3:10 AM

Enjoy -

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by Anonymousreply 185April 19, 2018 3:22 AM

HOT DADDY MARIO

by Anonymousreply 186April 19, 2018 3:23 AM

@ R168 - Here's Avery's post college graduation nose -

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by Anonymousreply 187April 19, 2018 3:26 AM

Mario, wow.

by Anonymousreply 188April 19, 2018 3:30 AM

Ramona had already purchased her Hamptons home when the photo @R185 was taken. (They weren't married.) Mario was a Gold Diggah!

by Anonymousreply 189April 19, 2018 3:34 AM

I know one thing, Dorinda really gave it to Sonja. Wow.

by Anonymousreply 190April 19, 2018 3:43 AM

Sonja has no purpose in life.

by Anonymousreply 191April 19, 2018 4:20 AM

I didn't know Sonja cheated on her husband in the south of France and that he ended up leaving her for 1 of her friends. Thanks Dorinda. That's all I need to know though as really, SONJA NEEDS TO GO. She's tired. She didn't even get mad when Dorinda brought up those facts. I think Sonja smirked and knew it would be included in the episode. That's how desperate she is

by Anonymousreply 192April 19, 2018 6:18 AM

So Ramona did have a nose job after all. I thought you were all nuts.

It's a damn good one then, especially considering she was no spring chicken when she got it!

by Anonymousreply 193April 19, 2018 9:56 AM

Always though Ramona has coke nose. One side looks caved in.

by Anonymousreply 194April 19, 2018 11:34 AM

I have no idea why Dorinda went off on Sonja about the husband. It seemed completely designed to just have an argument about anything.

by Anonymousreply 195April 19, 2018 11:38 AM

I see Bethenny is letting Dennis film with everyone

by Anonymousreply 196April 19, 2018 11:38 AM

AWKWARD

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by Anonymousreply 197April 19, 2018 11:41 AM

Delicious.

by Anonymousreply 198April 19, 2018 1:28 PM

I'm shocked Bethenny is letting Dennis film in this type of setting.

by Anonymousreply 199April 19, 2018 1:39 PM

Does anyone think that Carold could have EVER had a shot with Adumb if she had been Luann's housekeeper instead of house guest? Carold knows the answer and that's part of her resentment towards Luann and desperate attachment to Adumb. Once the cook book was out the window Adumb was out the door and on to greener pastures.

Luann, for all her faults, seems like she'd be a pretty cool person to hang out with. Carold seems like a judgy bitch and as exciting and attractive as a dirty dish rag. All of her stories, with or without the Radziwill/Kennedy name dropping, are boring as fuck but Lu's were interesting enough for her own special, take that you fake ass not a princess.

by Anonymousreply 200April 19, 2018 1:49 PM

Carole has a new sidekick to fight her battles.

by Anonymousreply 201April 19, 2018 1:58 PM

R197 Dorinda cracking up during her on-camera interview is the best part of that clip!

by Anonymousreply 202April 19, 2018 2:00 PM

I don't like either of them, if Carole's a "fake ass not a princess," LuAnn's certainly a fake ass not a countess.

by Anonymousreply 203April 19, 2018 2:02 PM

I was LMAO when Carole Bradshaw showed up with her season 5 short blonde haircut

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by Anonymousreply 204April 19, 2018 2:02 PM

[quote] I feel like Doris just looks for a reason to go off because she thinks that's what the audience wants - Sonja did not even compare the husbands

No, if you watched the entire episode, Dorinda had been working herself up for days before the Hamptons trip.

It started with the mean comments that Sonja made at her Halloween party, and then the mean comments about Tinsley. And then what finally pushed her over the edge, was the comment she made about Ramona and the handyman having some sort of fling.

Dorinda's frustration had just been building. But honestly, I think the one comment that most upset her, was when Carole told Dorinda that Sonja had called her FAT, in that Lady Gaga costume. You can see by her reaction when the words came out of Carole's mouth, that Dorinda was really hurt and maybe even a little bit embarassed.

Her issue is that Sonja says really stupid things without thinking. What really bugs them about her is that she tries to pass herself off as some clueless airhead (which makes people lower their defenses), and then she makes these very mean-spirited remarks that are pretty hurtful.

And many of her comments might just be outright lies, such as the Scott is paying for Tinsley's apartment comment, and the Ramona is sleeping with her handyman comment.

Sonja is downright pathological, and that's why people are so pissed off at her.

So in answer to your comment, no I don't think that Dorinda is faking her anger. She seems genuinely pissed off at Sonja.

by Anonymousreply 205April 19, 2018 2:21 PM

I thought Dorinda's imitation of Sonia was hilarious.

by Anonymousreply 206April 19, 2018 2:48 PM

Am I the only one who thinks Bethenny checked herself just in time in that one commentary to the camera where she said, "It's not like she killed..." and quickly substituted "her first born" instead of "Kennedy." In the nick of time!

by Anonymousreply 207April 19, 2018 3:18 PM

Mama Heath has opinions, bitches!

Holla!

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by Anonymousreply 208April 19, 2018 3:50 PM

R207 I caught that too lol.

by Anonymousreply 209April 19, 2018 4:18 PM

Is Heather angling for a return?

I feel like next season will have to switch up the cast.

by Anonymousreply 210April 19, 2018 4:20 PM

Sonja is a complete embarrassment to herself her ex husband and her daughter. She's really out of her mind crazy. I know it's reality tv and that type of craziness is good for the show. But it just comes off as looking really desperate to me.

Also some of her antics isn't a good look for her. She's always flashing her pussy and her ass at the camera. Just like in last night's episode when she was either putting on or pulling up her panties. It's just a bit much considering her age and the fact that she's a mother. She just always look as though she's high on something. I hope she gets help for her and the sake of her daughter.

by Anonymousreply 211April 19, 2018 4:24 PM

Bethenny doesn’t do anything on TV by accident so I wonder what her angle is for bringing her bf onscreen. Maybe she thinks she can score a spin-off show or launch a “Skinnyboy” line of booze. Or maybe she thinks she needs a romantic storyline to stay relevant or wants to film with someone other than the RHs.

There’s a plan behind Dennis’s appearances on this show.

by Anonymousreply 212April 19, 2018 4:51 PM

Girl, I'm sensing the beginning of Heather trying to get back onto the show. I mean, has anyone heard anything about Yummie Mummy Tummy Rummy Dummy in the last 5 years?

by Anonymousreply 213April 19, 2018 5:01 PM

Is the hamptons weekend getaway going to go into next week's episode too? I wasn't really paying attention towards the end of the episode. I got distracted with chores.

by Anonymousreply 214April 19, 2018 5:01 PM

Yes r214, it was a "to be continued..."

by Anonymousreply 215April 19, 2018 5:13 PM

r212, there was a BI out there about her possibly angling for a wedding/marriage show - could be related.

by Anonymousreply 216April 19, 2018 5:14 PM

Heather's personality naturally gets on people's nerves too so I'd be fine with her returning. Ditch Sonja, then bring back Heather and Jill. That would be a fun cast. I don't think Carole and Jill would get along either

by Anonymousreply 217April 19, 2018 5:14 PM

They need to ditch Tinsley too.

by Anonymousreply 218April 19, 2018 5:16 PM

yeah Tinsley can go but I'm afraid she'll stay because Carole now likes her. I actually want THIS Carole to stay as she's engaging the others. I agree Tinsley adds nothing and she's not married and has no children. It was funny hearing Bethenny and LuAnn make the same quip in their confessionals about Tinsley being a trust fund brat.

by Anonymousreply 219April 19, 2018 5:39 PM

I live for Sonja's talking heads, though. Demote Sonja to friend but still give her an occasional talking head, like what Potomac is doing with Charisse this season. Angle Heather into more scenes but don't give her a talking head. Bring Jill back full time. Bethenny? I'm just over her at this point. It's exhausting as fuck to continually watch her project her insecurities and steamroll the production with the Skinny bullshit.

by Anonymousreply 220April 19, 2018 5:41 PM

I can't imagine Heather and Jill getting along--they're too similar. I can't recall, but I'd guess Heather didn't get along well with Ramona or LuAnn, either. Jill is fine with LuAnn but can't take Ramona for more than a minute. And neither would get along with Carole.

Bring it on!

by Anonymousreply 221April 19, 2018 5:43 PM

Jill has more history with Ramona than any of the other women. I can see a Golden Girls come to Jesus moment between the two of them (a widow and a woman who was left for dead by her ex-husband) for at least a season before they're back at each other's necks.

by Anonymousreply 222April 19, 2018 5:44 PM

Heather didn't get along with Ramona in her first season but they were OK for the rest of her time there. Heather tolerated her. Heather got along with LuAnn at first (when LuAnn was demoted lol) but then they clashed. Heather hates people who feel entitled, which describes Ramona, Sonja and LuAnn

by Anonymousreply 223April 19, 2018 5:46 PM

What do we know about Sonja's daughter apart from the fact that she's a dead ringer for her mama? I can't believe she was well-parented, if she was parented at all.

I doubt Jill and Ramona could make it through a season. Jill would claim the same moral high ground that Doris did last night: dead husband trumps cheater.

by Anonymousreply 224April 19, 2018 5:47 PM

But Heather acts just as entitled as the women she resents.

by Anonymousreply 225April 19, 2018 5:48 PM

R224 I'm wondering if Sonja's daughter will start appearing on RHONY when she's of age (next season) or if maybe her father is threatening to disinherit her from the will if she does go on the show. I'm sure Sonja's ex-husband is embarrassed to be associated with her

R225 Heather feels she belongs and is equal with everyone. She can be annoyingly overbearing as well as possessive and use lots of curse words but she's a nice person from what I've read.

by Anonymousreply 226April 19, 2018 5:55 PM

The only times I've ever liked Heather are when she's fighting. Genuinely, I find her annoying in every scene outside of those. That shit eating toothy grin and her "HOLLA MAMA" cadence makes me wanna vomit.

by Anonymousreply 227April 19, 2018 6:05 PM

Heather is all used up, nothing new or exciting to add to the show.

Why can’t Bravo dump Tins and Sonja and find a loud POC who has money? I’d love to see Beth go toe-to-toe against a worthy foe who can throw it right back at her.

by Anonymousreply 228April 19, 2018 6:41 PM

Heather is too abrasive and full of herself for me, and she doesn't really bring any drama (unless you count the problems with her kid's health). She's just another loud, obnoxious frau.

by Anonymousreply 229April 19, 2018 6:51 PM

I'd rather Heather than Sonja and Tinsley.

by Anonymousreply 230April 19, 2018 6:53 PM

NY's track record with newbies is subpar at best, with the obvious exception being Dorinda. I can see why they might be looking at Heather and/or Jill to return instead of anyone new.

I always find it interesting that NY never tries to test new people during a season like the rest of the franchises.

by Anonymousreply 231April 19, 2018 6:57 PM

Maybe the NY women won't tolerate testing.

by Anonymousreply 232April 19, 2018 7:00 PM

yeah it's odd they don't have friends. They only did that 1 time with Jennifer Gilbert who was originally going to be an official housewife. Once in a while they'll have an outside person cause drama like when that Amanda Sanders fought with Heather and of course DL fave Ray

by Anonymousreply 233April 19, 2018 7:00 PM

It might just be a matter of the production staff and how they like to run the show. Clearly, Atlanta does the testing a lot.

by Anonymousreply 234April 19, 2018 7:05 PM

but it's long overdue to add new people into the mix. As others have said, Sonja is practically unwatchable with her desperate antics regarding everything.

by Anonymousreply 235April 19, 2018 7:09 PM

Jen Gilbert had relationships (albeit mostly business) with at least 2 of the women, and she probably looked like a sure thing. I have absolutely no memory of Amanda Sanders.

by Anonymousreply 236April 19, 2018 7:32 PM
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by Anonymousreply 237April 19, 2018 8:18 PM

Where is the mouthy broad who was caught on Carole’s mic trashing LuAnn? Give her an apple.

Rudy Ghouliani’s ex wives may need jobs. They certainly love the spotlight.

by Anonymousreply 238April 19, 2018 8:22 PM

Anna Rothschild, if she didn't live in London, would legitimately be the best addition to the cast possibly over Dorinda. She used to be friends with Luann, had a falling out, and was Tom's girlfriend immediately following the divorce. She's shaded Luann in the press and apparently hates her. God if only...

by Anonymousreply 239April 19, 2018 8:25 PM

Thanks, R237. I watched the video and I still have no idea who she was--but it made me hate Heather all over again. Loud, trashy broad.

by Anonymousreply 240April 19, 2018 8:31 PM

[quote] I can't imagine Heather and Jill getting along--they're too similar.

Between Heather, Jill, and Bethenny, you'd have three "alpha females" all trying to dominate the rest of the cast. That would be very interesting.

Although we've already seen Heather back down to Bethenny in the one and only season that they were together. After that, Heather dropped out, probably because she wasn't the head bitch anymore.

Add Jill into the mix, and I guarantee that there would be blood!

by Anonymousreply 241April 19, 2018 9:06 PM

Mama Heath was way self righteous but I think she was genuinely a good person. Dorinda's explosion at Sonja was building up and she really was pissed, she was as red as a tomato. Love me some Dorinda but the Sonja fighting seems like a repeat of last season. Get rid of Sonjarita already, she is tired and desperate rattling around in that dirty house. And christ, what is with the Baby Jane make up???

by Anonymousreply 242April 19, 2018 9:06 PM

Eh, Heather spent too much time telling us she's a good person, which in my experience is a sign that she's not.

by Anonymousreply 243April 19, 2018 9:22 PM

^ That ear-to-ear grin permanently plastered across her face is so phony and annoying. That tells you right there she is phony and insincere. I can't stand to watch her and hope they don't bring her back.

They should get rid of Sonia (especially after reading the link posted by R115) but hopefully not replace her with Heather. Or Jill. Jill is tiresome and all we'd be listening to from her is how she suffered due to Bawby's death. She'll be even more self-absorbed now. No thanks.

by Anonymousreply 244April 19, 2018 10:09 PM

but it's not about who's likable. What matters is what makes for good tv. Heather can be annoying to others. Jill obviously too. Bethenny and Ramona very much so. Put them all together with LuAnn, Carole and a new castmate (someone who knows at least 2 of them) and that would be a great cast. Sonja is dead weight at this point and Tinsley is dry and boring.

by Anonymousreply 245April 19, 2018 10:25 PM

Seriously. We don't need another Kristen or Jules.

They NEED divisive, opinionated women.

by Anonymousreply 246April 19, 2018 10:27 PM

How many lines did Dorinda do before that argument?

by Anonymousreply 247April 19, 2018 10:30 PM

Jill Zaren will never be back. Here's why. Jill hounded, and I mean HOUNDED RHONYC producers. She would count minutes of screen time and complain if she had less than Ramona or Bethanny. She would "drop in" on the Bravo production offices and snoop. She was caught reading someone's email on an unlocked computer. She was told in no uncertain terms to not come back to the offices. She complained to Andy and quickly realized Andy didn't really have a lot to do with the show other than the vanity EP Credit he gets on all the Housewives shows. She at one point got Ramona and Luanne to agree not to film with Bethanny trying to get her fired. She created the whole fight with Bethanny to create a storyline for her. She failed to clue in Bethanny. So when she decided it was time to make up and be friends again Bethanny would have none of it. She got so much backlash she got let go.

by Anonymousreply 248April 19, 2018 10:31 PM

and the ratings haven't been the same since Jill left either. Bethenny's return did raise them somewhat and LuAnn's antics have caused certain episodes to do well but overall things haven't been as fun to watch.

The producer "genius" idea of simply switching out Kristen for Jules for Tinsley has proven to be a failure.

by Anonymousreply 249April 19, 2018 10:35 PM

Does anyone remember when, during the big Bethenny-Jill feud, Jill had Luanne listen in to a nasty phone call with Bethenny, who had no idea? Really a dick move. And yet I'll bet the producers will welcome her back for the ratings--probably Heather, too, if she wants it. As the poster upthread observed, nastiness=ratings.

by Anonymousreply 250April 19, 2018 10:52 PM

The ratings haven't been the same, but that is due to a combination of reasons, not just because of Jill and Jill alone.

by Anonymousreply 251April 19, 2018 10:52 PM

I thought they had new producers since Jill left. I would like to see Kelly back. And Heather. And Jill. Get rid of Tinsley and Sonya. Oh and bring back Simon and what was the wife's name? But I heard they moved to Australia and she got her PHD in Psychology and is a therapist now.

by Anonymousreply 252April 19, 2018 11:05 PM

Good lord--someone actually wants Kelly back? She is completely batshit crazy, and not in a fun way.

by Anonymousreply 253April 19, 2018 11:10 PM

Sonja has got to be the worst houseguest EVER! Bringing that stupid dog, which clearly was a surprise to Luann, and then appearing at breakfast wearing Luann's ratty old slippers, and freely admitting that she "went shopping" in her closet?!!

Not funny, not cute, you desperate old hag.

by Anonymousreply 254April 19, 2018 11:20 PM

Let alone giving Luanne a laundry list of items she needs to stay with her.

by Anonymousreply 255April 19, 2018 11:24 PM

I think it would be hard to find someone who wants Sonja to stay.

by Anonymousreply 256April 19, 2018 11:31 PM

Why does Sonja dye her dog's fur with red food coloring? What a psycho.

I was wondering why the color looked so un-natural.

by Anonymousreply 257April 19, 2018 11:46 PM

good god. is that true about the dog?

by Anonymousreply 258April 19, 2018 11:55 PM

Yes, R258.

She said it on Wednesday's episode.

by Anonymousreply 259April 19, 2018 11:56 PM

I confess I wasn't giving her my undivided attention--or any at all. What a nutjob.

by Anonymousreply 260April 19, 2018 11:59 PM

Seeing Luann dance around various Hamptons stores to fill up her "Sonja basket" I couldn't help but play the Barefoot Contessa theme in my head. Barefoot Countess? Barefoot Cuntessa? It was fab, especially with the mental juxtaposition of Luann's scraggly whiskey voice swinging her arms around asking shop attendants to get her a blender or cheese with Ina Garten's ASMR voice giggling along with the employees.

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by Anonymousreply 261April 20, 2018 12:03 AM

Thanks R215.

by Anonymousreply 262April 20, 2018 12:32 AM

Sonja was clearly needlessly embarrassed about taking the bus so tried to claim it was sophisticated/relaxing/a good way to meet men, which was itself embarrassing. I think Bethenny has no idea how she is with people, and part of the reason I think I dislike her so much is that she reminds me of people I know/have known, especially for example in the scene where she's baffled that Carol was being less friendly than usual with her in the restaurant although she (Bethenny) had been really awful to her at the previous meal. She tried to brush it away in a way that obliged Carol to act like it as no big deal as well. I could just feel the intensity of Bethenny's presence and her insistence of trying to make Carol respond to her in a friendly way. Plus, at the meal, and generally, I think she has no idea how aggressive/unfriendly she was being to the woman who was supposed to be her best friend, but was very aware of Carol standing up to her, she called her defensive' for literally just correcting her. This definitely reminds me of people I've known, who will get incredibly personal in attacking you then react with horror if you try and stand up to them - or feel attacked if you just disagree, and I've definitely got the 'defensive' line when I thought we were literally having a conversation but the other person sees it as an attack - which is incredibly silencing and immediately puts you on the back-foot. Obviously Bethenny is a narcissist with zero self-awareness and I can see that her friendship/presence must be stifling for Carol now. Not that Carol didn't enjoy being a mean girl with Bethenny when they were 'on the same side' - but then again that reminds me of how people like that can be fantastic company as long as they always feel like you're on their side, ergo. you never stand up to them or contradict them. I can see how Tinsely must be a breath of fresh air with just being basically nice-ish (as nice as these women can be obviously and not incredibly brittle and over-bearing and power-obsessed). Also I agree with the poster above who said that we need someone who can really stand up to Bethenny - her hypocrisy is also ridiculous, digging/acting overly hurt at Ramona for saying 'unkind things' when she (Bethenny) is often being unkind and undermines people but she thinks she's just 'telling the truth' (a few seasons ago I wouldn't have believed that anyone could have made me sympathize with Ramona). IMO it was also uncalled for to show up Luanne like that in the trailer for the next episode, when there are plenty of things that she could bring up about how Bethenny has behaved towards her but she doesn't. I n fact Luanne is probably the only one I wouldn't mind spending time with, she may have her faults, but IIRC she never goes on drunken rants at people and is incredibly gracious in forgiving people and has put up with a lot of rudeness and undermining behaviour without reacting, at least in the last season or so anyway. Plus, she actually seems like she'd be a laugh and good fun to be around, unlike some of the others. Also, Sonja may not have actually compared her divorce to Dorinda's husband dying, but I'd be sick of her 'poor me' routine too.

by Anonymousreply 263April 20, 2018 1:19 AM

R263 hunni use some damn paragraphs. No one wants to read that massive blob

by Anonymousreply 264April 20, 2018 1:26 AM

R263. Sorry you're right. I'm so used to posting on Facebook comments where if I press return for a paragraph it posts it too early (and a big block is more readable there - although I have just found out that it is possible). It's too late now as unlike FB I can't edit.

by Anonymousreply 265April 20, 2018 1:30 AM

Did Jill inherit Zarin Fabrics? She was insufferable just working there, but can you imagine her schtick trying to make it a business that could be spun off like Vanderpump Rules? If producers thought she was a nightmare to deal with before, she'd be exponentially worse now.

by Anonymousreply 266April 20, 2018 1:37 AM

SHADE

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by Anonymousreply 267April 20, 2018 1:39 AM

r266, I am sure he left the business to his sons.

by Anonymousreply 268April 20, 2018 1:39 AM

This is a repost of R263 with paragraphs and edits:

Sonja was clearly needlessly embarrassed about taking the bus so tried to claim it was sophisticated/relaxing/a good way to meet men, which was itself embarrassing.

I think Bethenny has no idea how she is with people, and part of the reason I think I dislike her so much is that she reminds me of people I know/have known, for example in the scene when they're sitting with Tinsley and she's baffled that Carol was being less friendly than usual although she (Bethenny) had been really awful to her at the previous meal. She tried to brush it away in a way that obliged Carol to act like it was no big deal as well. I could just feel the intensity of Bethenny's presence and her insistence on trying to make Carol respond to her in a friendly way. I think she has no idea how aggressive/unfriendly she was to Carol over the phone calls/text conversation but she was very aware of Carol's reaction to her - she called her defensive' for literally just correcting her.

This definitely reminds me of people I've known, who will think nothing of attacking you then react with horror if you try and stand up to them. I've definitely got the 'defensive' line when I thought we were just having a conversation but the other person sees disagreement as an attack - which is incredibly silencing and immediately puts you on the back-foot. Obviously Bethenny is a narcissist with zero self-awareness and I can see that her presence might be stifling for Carol now.

Not that Carol didn't enjoy being a mean girl with Bethenny when they were 'on the same side' - but then again that reminds me of how people like that can be fantastic company as long as they always feel like you're on their side, ergo. you never stand up to them or contradict them. I can see how Tinsely must be a breath of fresh air with just being basically nice-ish (as nice as these women can be obviously and not incredibly brittle and over-bearing and power-obsessed).

Also I agree with the poster above who said that they need someone who can really stand up to Bethenny - her hypocrisy is also ridiculous - acting overly hurt at Ramona for saying 'unkind things' when she (Bethenny) is often unkind but she thinks she's just 'telling the truth' (a few seasons ago I wouldn't have believed that anyone could have made me sympathize with Ramona).

Right - rant over.

by Anonymousreply 269April 20, 2018 1:41 AM

I'm still not understanding the timeline of the disagreement between Bethenny and Carole.

First off, did Bethenny expect Carole to text her during, or immediately after running TWENTY SIX MILES??

Secon, Carole did up texting her back at 7:00 p.m., so I don't understand what Bethenny's complaining about. Carole did text her back.

Everything Carole did, Bethenny complained about:

"I'm going to the bathroom, but clearly nobody cares." What, does she want a medal of acknowledgement now, for taking a piss?

"Carole, get in the picture. Ok, I guess not." Carole was texting on her phone when Bethenny did her selfie.

Bethenny seems so incredibly NEEDY, and if you don't give her constant and undivided attention, then all of a sudden she becomes defensive, and you become public enemy number one.

Being in any sort of relationship with her must be exhausting (and probably not worth it).

No wonder she can't keep a friend - OR a man.

by Anonymousreply 270April 20, 2018 1:52 AM

If anybody here is associated with NYC PR Heiress, Lizzie Grubman, puleeeeeeeze BEG her to fill out a RHONYC application!

TIA!

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by Anonymousreply 271April 20, 2018 1:58 AM

Agree that Zarin Fabrics probably went to the son(s); it's been a family business for at least two generations. Plus Jill is peddling her cheap n' cheesy rugs on social media, and they're not available at Zarin Fabrics. Still, I'm sure Bawby has provided for her generously.

by Anonymousreply 272April 20, 2018 2:07 AM

Yeah, R270, the narcissism of Sonja and Bethenny was so so obvious during that scene, and (inevitably) they were so unaware of it. Neither of them though there was anything odd about making it all about themselves and demanding why Carole wasn't immediately sending them gushing messages even though she was running a marathon and then probably in immense pain afterwards. I think Carole was a bit blindsided by their responses to be honest, which is maybe why she (perhaps accidentally?) stood up to Bethenny, because how are you meant to respond to that kind of behaviour?

Again - and not to over-identify with a trashy tv show or anything, but it reminded me of an incident with two friends of mine where I was incredibly upset about a work situation and the advice that friend number 1. was giving me was terrible because she'd never really had a job with any real responsibility (I may have been a bit dismissive of her advice but it was terrible and I was very upset), so I focused on friend number 2. who had done similar work.

The response of friend number 1 to this was so incredibly ego-driven - rather than thinking of other ways she could help her friend who was crying, or being happy there was someone there who could advise me, she got increasingly visibly annoyed and walked out - telling me after that she had to leave otherwise she would have got angry with me for ignoring her. I realised then that some people's response will always be ego-driven to the extent that their feelings will always come first and that I had to detach myself (I had given her a LOT of emotional support in the past). I was reminded of this because Bethenny and Sonja seem to have never matured past the stage where their feelings must always take priority.

by Anonymousreply 273April 20, 2018 2:08 AM

Carole was obviously exhausted and she probably received many, many texts from people who knew she was running the marathon. She didn't have the energy to reply to all of them with long messages thanking them.

The Bethenny/Carole/Tinsley brunch was clearly edited from Bethenny's point of view. Notice the camera angles repeatedly showing Carole and Tinsley talking to each other while Bethenny stared at them. I'm sure it wasn't like that for the entire brunch

by Anonymousreply 274April 20, 2018 2:40 AM

r274, Bethenny is the star.

by Anonymousreply 275April 20, 2018 2:57 AM

R271 I'm pretty sure she reps Carole (I know she did last year and I'm fairly sure she still does) so that could be a possiblity. Although i think Lizzie truly wants to stay as a power behind the scenes and it's not like she needs the money.

by Anonymousreply 276April 20, 2018 6:03 AM

I just can't imagine knowing these people - being in their gutter orbit. Do they not have real friends? I don't think they do, no one with any sense would be friends with them if you though going to a party would entail these ridiculous women ending up in fights. And, why do they always need each other to apologize for perceived slights? That woman, the silly woman who refers to herself as countess, always tells people they need to apologize to her. Have you ever had friends who said this on a regular basis.

I realize this doesn't require much analysis, as its a reality shoe and each one need s to outdo the other. But, what is the motivation to do this show? Are they frustrated, failed actresses who use this as a means of channeling that frustration? need for fame at any cost?

Bethenny is hugely successful, in spite of herself - she self-sabotogaes everything that comes her way, besides business opportunities. I think she's a very intelligent woman, but she there is no way she will ever have a fulfilling life - she doubts even her own success by surrounding herself with these scum. I think she was abused, sexually or emotionally.

And, Carole - what a sad, pathetic woman. She was married to Anthony for five years - five years - you're telling me over the past 19 years she couldn't find one man to marry her? She was a young woman the time of his death. She's holding onto that name with her cold dead hands, its her only card to play. she is now a parody. "Oh my best friend was Carolyn" please, she wouldn't give her the time of day if she knew she was doing this show now. And, a ghostwriter totally wrote that first book. "Oh Im so clever" yea, you're on a reality show - her blue collar upbringing shines through.

by Anonymousreply 277April 20, 2018 9:21 AM

I'm above poster - sorry, damn spell check and writing quickly

by Anonymousreply 278April 20, 2018 9:23 AM

The show is absolutely comedy (the flashbacks). Whoever is categorizing fans upthread is soo fussy and bored, omgoood!

by Anonymousreply 279April 20, 2018 9:28 AM

I'm no fan of Lu-Man and her constant "I'm getting married! Adore me!" storyline from last season. But Bethenny is so self-centered and unwilling/unable to extend an ounce of compassion to anyone, that when Lu-Man tried to open up to her at dinner and tell her she should have paid more attention to what Bethenny had told her about Tom, all Bethenny could say was, "You can say I was right."

Any decent person would simply acknowledge what Lu-Man said and end it with something simple like, "Well, I'm glad you're in a better place now: or "That's okay. I'm just glad you're happy now." But not Bethenny. She has to make it all about herself while making sure she continues to dig that knife in a little bit deeper.

It's always about Bethenny, no matter what. She's a real See Ya Next Tuesday.

by Anonymousreply 280April 20, 2018 10:54 AM

I think I like NY the best because it feels like they are in on the joke, rather than trying to pretend the joke doesn't exist.

by Anonymousreply 281April 20, 2018 11:34 AM

I think Sonja taking the Jitney was just Sonja being Sonja ergo cheap. It was meant to play to her quirky character. However, it just looked sad and pathetic.

by Anonymousreply 282April 20, 2018 11:50 AM

Wow...Bryn is the spitting image of Jason. There are pics of her at some event with Bethenny.

by Anonymousreply 283April 20, 2018 2:03 PM

Dorinda-isms! Write it, regret it.

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by Anonymousreply 284April 20, 2018 2:51 PM

R280 but everyone knew LuAnn's relationship with Tom was pure BS to begin with so it's impossible to feel bad for her after the breakup. In this case I agree with Bethenny and Carole's colder reactions.

by Anonymousreply 285April 20, 2018 4:26 PM

B/S or not, that "story" drove the show and provided ample material. They all should be thanking her.

by Anonymousreply 286April 20, 2018 4:47 PM

Ah, so we see the sides forming ....

Bethenny/Luann/Sonja vs Carole/Tinsley/Ramona with Dorinda in the middle.

by Anonymousreply 287April 20, 2018 5:19 PM

R277 I agree with everything you said. To answer your question though, most of the cast members are narcissists. There are subsets to NPD/narcissism. They are not Malignant Narcissists, they are Histrionic, NPD/Histrionic, meaning they have an intense need for theatrics and attention. For example, Trump is a Histrionic Narcissist.

The producers exploit them and then they exploit each other. They exploit people with a serious personality disorder who then exploit each other. And some of the cast members pay people to scour the internet for negative comments about them so that they can post the opposite, starting disagreements, as if they single-handedly can change one's opinion. The reality of these reality shows are that most of the Housewives never emotionally matured a day beyond sixteen.

by Anonymousreply 288April 20, 2018 11:27 PM

I feel so sorry for their Kids. Apart from the emotional stunted-ness, which I think is perhaps most obviously seen in Ramona, and the histrionics (how can someone with the emotional maturity of a child be a parent?), I remember two separate instances on camera where children told their parents that they were sad that they were out all the time socialising in the evenings. One was Luann's son who at least had his siblings and the nanny (a very sad scene where the nanny was trying to convince the kids their mother loved them even though she never really seemed to spend time with them). Sadder was Ramona's daughter who, as a teen, complained that her mum and dad were out all the time, which as an only child would have been very lonely for her presumably. It was a brief moment on camera and Ramona brushed it away. I know it was part of their job to go out and socialise but they didn't need the money at that point and the implication was that this far exceeded the show. I think these women genuinely don't know how to put someone else's needs before their own, even their children's.

by Anonymousreply 289April 21, 2018 12:05 AM

Couldn't stand it any longer so I blocked the Jill troll and then discovered it was talking to itself. Bwaahaa you're one sick pushy bitch, Jill. And you're never coming back, cunt.

by Anonymousreply 290April 21, 2018 12:10 AM

R288 - Do we know what causes the different types of narcissistic disorder? I imagine more than one possibility? I'm spending time with my sister's mother-in-law next week who is definitely a narcissist. In some ways I think she simply can't help it - it's like other people just aren't really real to her, so she's not capable of considering things from another POV, or, it seems, genuine empathy (only a creepy and manipulative simulation of it). In fact, I don't know whether she realises that empathy for other people is an emotion that we feel internally rather than something we perform.

by Anonymousreply 291April 21, 2018 12:10 AM

Has Carole sampled Tinsley's carpet?

by Anonymousreply 292April 21, 2018 12:43 AM

Just watching an old episode just after Ramona's divorce. Apparently her idea of spending quality family time with her daughter is hanging out at the same bar when 'I'm with my friends, she's with her friends'....

by Anonymousreply 293April 21, 2018 3:26 AM

^ Like someone upthread said Ramona is a terrible role-model for her daughter. So is LuAnn. If I were their kids I'd be very embarrassed of my mother. It wouldn't surprise me if they eventually estrange from their mothers. Most children of narcissists end up having to estrange. Although I think in Bethenny's case she was the narcissist, not her mother.

by Anonymousreply 294April 21, 2018 4:00 AM

* is* not was.

by Anonymousreply 295April 21, 2018 4:01 AM

Who let all these long-winded Dr Joyce Brothers-Fraus into this thread?

by Anonymousreply 296April 21, 2018 7:41 AM

Not entirely sure "estrange" can be used as a verb.....

by Anonymousreply 297April 21, 2018 12:01 PM

r294, check out some of the OC or NJ children if you want terrible role models. Despite her persona on tv and what you may think of her image, Ramona clearly did it right as Avery has turned into a lovely young woman.

by Anonymousreply 298April 21, 2018 12:24 PM

In early seasons of NY, there was an issue involving Ramona-Mario and Avery's school. The school was considering not inviting Avery back (standard in independent schools--you're re-invited, or not, every year) because of Ramona's participation in RHONY. Not just her participation; her behavior. I'm sure the kid has been mortified regularly by mama's inappropriateness, and then later by Mario and his babygirl.

by Anonymousreply 299April 21, 2018 12:29 PM

Ramona and her daughter remind me of Saffy and Edina.

by Anonymousreply 300April 21, 2018 1:43 PM

r299, wasn't that in relation to the nude photos of Alex? Isn't that why Ramona walked off the reunion season 1?

by Anonymousreply 301April 21, 2018 1:44 PM

Why do I get the feeling that the whole Bethenny and Carole feud is something the two of them made up for the cameras?

by Anonymousreply 302April 21, 2018 2:13 PM

r302, because it's a reality show that needs drama? It happens in every franchise.

by Anonymousreply 303April 21, 2018 2:24 PM

I was thinking the same thing, R302.

The whole thing is fake.

by Anonymousreply 304April 21, 2018 2:40 PM

Excuse me, but Bethenny doesn't lie or bullshit, remember? She keeps it real.

by Anonymousreply 305April 21, 2018 2:43 PM

The nude photos were the ostensible reason for Ramona walking off the reunion--anything to do with Alex, and particularly Simon, made her batshit crazy and she was always looking for ways to signal class and virtue at their expense. Not a heavy lift for most people, but for Ramona..... But the to-do with Avery's school was directly related to Ramona's participation in the show, which evidently was causing a lot of talk among the kids (to Avery's detriment) and a lot of pearl-clutching among the mamas (also to Avery's detriment, potentially, as the mamas dictate who's invited to the parties).

by Anonymousreply 306April 21, 2018 2:54 PM

Dees gotta be da desperate bitches for the ratings

by Anonymousreply 307April 21, 2018 3:17 PM

If Cindy were still on the show, what would her storyline be? Getting rid of that dated mop hairstyle?

by Anonymousreply 308April 21, 2018 11:49 PM

Or getting rid of her creepy and repulsive brother Howie, surrogate papa to her twins. I feel sure there's a really unsavory story there.

by Anonymousreply 309April 21, 2018 11:58 PM

Cindy vs Jules on the one-hit wonder status.

by Anonymousreply 310April 22, 2018 1:52 AM

Cindy wasn't even a one-hit wonder. She was unpopular from the getgo.

Meanwhile, The Widow Who Shall Not Be Named is posing all over social media---big date night, apparently. Sometimes she photographs beautifully, other times she looks like Ratatouille.

by Anonymousreply 311April 22, 2018 2:10 AM

Tinsley >>>>>>>> Jules >>>> Kristen >>>>>>>> Cindy Barshop

by Anonymousreply 312April 22, 2018 3:13 AM

I'm kinda surprised Dorinda joined a show like housewives. She was married to a very prominent consultant who advised some pretty big heavy hitters. Not only that. But she's also friends with the Clintons. Someone with that type of prominence and those types of connections in their background. You wouldn't think would be interested in joining a trashy reality tv show and turning up the way Dorinda does on the show. Don't get me wrong. I enjoy Dorinda. But knowing all of that it's kinda surprising she'd do a show like housewives. Unless She's just in it for the adventure of being on reality tv and the opportunities that comes with it.

Anyone else find that kinda interesting about Dorinda?

by Anonymousreply 313April 22, 2018 4:54 AM

R299 it was Sacred heart.

Speaking of i still don't get Ranonas Catholic deal. Both Masur and Singer are very Jewish names

by Anonymousreply 314April 22, 2018 5:22 AM

R313 Like many of the Housewives, she probably has financial needs. Although she has a tiny NYC apartment, her house in the Berkshires is huge, and the upkeep on that place has got involve big bucks. She also has that trashy daughter she's putting through school. Dorinda's husband may have left her well off financially, but I'm sure she can use the extra cash to keep her living comfortably.

by Anonymousreply 315April 22, 2018 11:54 AM

If Masur is a Jewish name (which isn't always dispositive, but whatever), it's her fathers; Ramona's mother may have been Catholic and raised Ramona in the church. Ditto Singer. They all wore crucifixes, but the family business was manufacturing religious objects.

by Anonymousreply 316April 22, 2018 12:49 PM

Is NY the only franchise where featuring the "home" life is not required?

by Anonymousreply 317April 22, 2018 1:13 PM

In early seasons there were plenty of scenes of "home" life--all staged and phony (except maybe the scene where Noel begs his mother to stay home or take him to dinner with her). Bethenny has court orders not to show her home life (to the extent it features the kid), and all the others are empty nesters.

by Anonymousreply 318April 22, 2018 1:22 PM

r318, the earlier season were a lot LESS staged and phony.

by Anonymousreply 319April 22, 2018 1:23 PM

Dorinda is starting to get the sloppy drunk edit whereas she appeared charming in her drunkeness in previous seasons. I wonder why Just goes to show editing can make or break you on these shows.

by Anonymousreply 320April 22, 2018 1:26 PM

The LEAST staged home life scene I can remember was in season 1 when Jill was trying to get Ally to thank Bawby for something (chartering a private plane to take her to fat camp? paying for her new clothes?) and both Ally and Bawby were really uncomfortable with their interaction. What made it look unstaged was the presence of some relative or other yenta-ing in the background.

by Anonymousreply 321April 22, 2018 1:33 PM

Ramona's Hamptons house looks great

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by Anonymousreply 322April 22, 2018 1:57 PM

Looks like it was furnished from a midpoint furniture showroom.

by Anonymousreply 323April 22, 2018 2:08 PM

Ramona has horrible taste. The outside of that house is so tacky early 90's. The insides improved a bit but damn is it generic looking.

by Anonymousreply 324April 22, 2018 2:52 PM

LMAO! I'd love to see all of your mansions!

by Anonymousreply 325April 22, 2018 3:00 PM

Don't be ridiculous, r325. It's perfectly reasonable to have taste and opinions even without owning the object.

by Anonymousreply 326April 22, 2018 3:02 PM

Ramona has said her background was mostly Hungarian so that explains the Catholic thing

by Anonymousreply 327April 22, 2018 6:22 PM

LMAO! You don’t need a mansion in order to reflect personal taste.

Of course, tacky people like you confuse money for taste. Are you a member of the Trump family?

by Anonymousreply 328April 22, 2018 6:42 PM

Speaking of TRUMP. Everyone loves to say Bethanny is a TRUMP supporter or that she voted for him. I don't think so. She's on the daily mail right now slamming him for destroying the country's natural resources.

Gotta say, I never thought she supported that asshole. She seems like a Clinton supporter to me. She wanted to shatter that glass ceiling along with Hillary.

by Anonymousreply 329April 22, 2018 6:55 PM

R329: Bethenny said that she voted for Hillary on last year's RHONY reunion.

by Anonymousreply 330April 22, 2018 7:00 PM

I don't think Dorinda needs housewives money the way the other women do. Her husband left her pretty well to do. If anything it's just extra money in her pocket. But she dosent need the show the way Sonja, Luann, and probably Ramona needs the show financially to maintain their lifestyles.

They wanted Dorinda season one of the show. But she said no. And she said producers of the show kept asking for years to join the show until she finally said yes a few seasons back. I'm glad she joined though. She's one of my favorites on this franchise.

by Anonymousreply 331April 22, 2018 7:02 PM

R330 I didn't know she said that. Thanks for telling me. She just doesn't seem like she would vote for someone like TRUMP.

by Anonymousreply 332April 22, 2018 7:04 PM

To be clear, Bethenny and Carole voted for Clinton. LuAnn, Ramona and Sonja voted for Trump. Tinsley said she didn't vote at all

we know Heather voted for Clinton and Jill voted for Trump

not sure about the other former cast members

by Anonymousreply 333April 22, 2018 7:05 PM

and Dorinda went for Clinton too

by Anonymousreply 334April 22, 2018 7:05 PM

How could Trump win when Carole, who knew more than all the other housewives combined and was a journalist if you didn't know, said that Hillary was a shoe in?

by Anonymousreply 335April 22, 2018 7:07 PM

Dorinda is also friendly with the Clintons because of her deceased husband's relationship with them.

by Anonymousreply 336April 22, 2018 7:25 PM

Interesting how Carole never liked animals until Adam and now she has a menagerie. She never exercised but as soon as he dumps her (everyone but Carole saw that one coming) she runs a marathon just like he did. I think she is desperate to keep him in her life even if he's fucking other women because I don't think he's fucking her and I don't buy this morning "coffee and cake" bullshit she's trying to get us to believe. I think they had one whirlwind summer and were done by season 8 because by then he realized banging this ghoul was getting him no where and making him a laughing stock with his buddies. If a young guy told his friends he was sleeping with an older woman someone sexy like J-Lo or even Sandra Bullock would be ok but to trot out this mummy had to has been mortifying.

by Anonymousreply 337April 22, 2018 7:59 PM

Sonja and Luann are the only ones who need the Bravo check the most.

by Anonymousreply 338April 22, 2018 9:13 PM

So far, Ramona is not a main player this season. She wasn't one last season, either. She doesn't have anything going on anymore.

by Anonymousreply 339April 22, 2018 9:18 PM

r339, last season was all about Bethenny vs Ramona.

by Anonymousreply 340April 22, 2018 10:42 PM

I hope this season isn't all about Bethenny and Ramona.

Re Trump, Jill posted about a million selfies during inauguration weekend--including photos at the Trump hotel in DC, on the way to an inaugural ball with her ghastly nephew, blah blah.

by Anonymousreply 341April 22, 2018 10:51 PM

I think the original trailer was only half the season. They showed nothing of Cartagena yet.

by Anonymousreply 342April 22, 2018 11:10 PM

LuAnn seems less impoverished this season, and she keeps talking about her new "penthouse." (I'm not sure what any of these numbskulls mean by penthouse, but whatever). Where is this money coming from? Not from her "cabaret show" gigs, surely?

by Anonymousreply 343April 22, 2018 11:23 PM

r343 i'd guess she makes a low 6 figures for her clothing and bedding line. i know, i know. still, if Lisa Rinna can have a QVC line and, if i recall, it's not even a best seller but she's maintaining a wealthy lifestyle (i don't think she'd front like the others) then I'm sure Luann has a few avenues that is keeping her afloat.

by Anonymousreply 344April 22, 2018 11:42 PM

Her clothing line looks like the old Frederick's of Hollywood that used to advertise in the back pages of magazines. Lisa Rinna has a husband who's probably still collecting residuals for one thing or another.

You can front a lot of things, but generally not real estate--if that's really her "penthouse."

by Anonymousreply 345April 22, 2018 11:46 PM

I bet it’s an Air B&B or short term rental. One of the reasons she was demoted in season 6 is because she was living full time in the Hamptons. The townhouse she shared with the count in the first three seasons was a rental.

by Anonymousreply 346April 23, 2018 12:23 AM

I'm guessing Countess LuLu got around $10 million in the divorce and she's making high 6-figures between RHONY and her other business ventures. She's set for life, as long as she can stay on the show. If the show ends, she'll have to downgrade her lifestyle a little, but she really has nothing to worry about financially.

I still don't understand how Carole affords her lifestyle. She made a little money off that book, but not that much. Her late husband must have left her with a nice sum when he died.

by Anonymousreply 347April 23, 2018 1:11 AM

^ He didn't leave her with that much. Anthony was sick and possibly even diagnosed with cancer when they married, so I would think that most life insurance companies would have seen him as a very high risk (especially back then when many cancer prognosis were poor) and may not have wanted to insure them.

Lee Radziwill had the wealth. At least back then. Anthony wasn't that wealthy. Plus, they were only married 5 years and didn't have any kids, not too mention the Kennedy's keep their wealth in the family. They would have never allowed a situation where an ex or a widow were left with a large sum of the Kennedy wealth. Carole just got what little Anthony had, possibly a few million plus the house.

by Anonymousreply 348April 23, 2018 1:36 AM

A few million is still good for a girl just starting college.

by Anonymousreply 349April 23, 2018 2:02 AM

I remember a few years after JFK Jr and his wife and SIL died in the plane crash Carole was being interviewed by someone (I forget who) and when they moved away from the topic of the plane crash and directed the conversation back to her and Anthony's marriage she was asked "Is it true you inherited $50 million after he died?" She seemed very surprised at that and blurted out, "What! 50 million! Not even close. Take a few zeros off and that's all I was left with. Especially after all the expenses." Her words. I remember her saying that.

This was a few years after the plane crash and years before she appeared on RHONYC. As already mentioned, it's also well known that the Kennedy Clan keeps their fortune within the bloodline family, not family through marriage. Once a rumor is floated on the internet/social media it eventually becomes gospel truth for some people.

by Anonymousreply 350April 23, 2018 3:09 AM

I guess that TV pilot about the young widow based on Carole's book never got off the ground. She even bought a house in LA thinking she was going to be some big Hollywood player. I wonder if she still has it?

by Anonymousreply 351April 23, 2018 3:31 AM

I don't know what Carole has in the bank. But she seems to live really well. She's a jet setter and that takes money. I'm sure the checks from the show helps. But I believe she would be fine even without the show.

by Anonymousreply 352April 23, 2018 4:27 AM

r351, same thing with her cookbook.

by Anonymousreply 353April 23, 2018 11:46 AM

Carole has a small apartment downtown. A 1 bedroom and if I recall a house in LA. I think Lu got only $2M in her divorce and the Hamptons house which she sold probably for a tidy profit. Then she downsized in the Hamptons.

by Anonymousreply 354April 23, 2018 12:00 PM

Lulu must have plowed through that $2 pretty quickly because she was really living hand to mouth in recent seasons, despite all her big talk. And there can't have been any settlement from d'Agostino.

by Anonymousreply 355April 23, 2018 12:38 PM

I want to know what's going on with hot daddy Mario

by Anonymousreply 356April 23, 2018 1:01 PM

Isn't he still trying to get Boopsie out of his house?

by Anonymousreply 357April 23, 2018 1:03 PM

R355 As I recall reading, Lu-Man walked away from her marriage to Tom with nada. They both agreed to a non-monetary quickie divorce.

by Anonymousreply 358April 23, 2018 1:40 PM

When BRAVO is done with her and after she blows through that money what income will she have? She most likely doesn't have a retirement account and the usual social security benefits to supplement the retirement account. The point is, since she's only 52, she could live another 30 yrs (or more) and easily run out of money long before then.

by Anonymousreply 359April 23, 2018 1:48 PM

I can't help but still love Sonja

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by Anonymousreply 360April 23, 2018 2:52 PM

Well then luann better be saving her money. Or her ass could be out in the cold. The same with Sonja. She better hurry up and do something with that upper east side townhouse while she still can.

Because not having any money or a place to live is no joke. They better save and invest as much as they can.

by Anonymousreply 361April 23, 2018 3:03 PM

Sonja will end up living outside of Albany with her parents.

by Anonymousreply 362April 23, 2018 3:42 PM

LuAnn and Sonja are counting on their daughters marrying wealthy too.

and maybe Noel could get a sugar daddy

by Anonymousreply 363April 23, 2018 6:18 PM

i don't think they should count on their daughters marrying well. Victoria already looks like she's been rode hard and put up wet.

by Anonymousreply 364April 23, 2018 6:21 PM

Sonja's daughter is very pretty.

by Anonymousreply 365April 23, 2018 8:21 PM

You wanna know whose daughter is awesome? Dorinda's!!!!

by Anonymousreply 366April 24, 2018 12:36 AM

We need to see John's THICK, MEATY cucumber cock

by Anonymousreply 367April 24, 2018 1:55 AM

^ said no one (even Dorinda) ever...

by Anonymousreply 368April 24, 2018 2:17 AM

Things seem to be quiet with Jason ever since the court appearances.

by Anonymousreply 369April 24, 2018 2:13 PM

R363 If their kids marry well their mothers will not benefit from that. Their sons-in-law are not going to help their mothers-in-law financially. I seriously doubt that. A more likely scenario: I could see their daughters (and son too) moving away and limiting contact.

But I agree they should be doing what they can now to save because eventually the money runs out. And one day they’ll lose their Bravo income so there’s that too. Their contract with HW won't last forever and neither will the wealth they currently possess, given that they are still relatively young and could live a long life, possibly a few more decades.

by Anonymousreply 370April 25, 2018 2:28 AM

[quote] Sonja's daughter is very pretty.

Why does Sonja refer to her as "the girl?"

That's so strange, even for Sonja.

by Anonymousreply 371April 25, 2018 2:37 AM

Where is Pickles?

by Anonymousreply 372April 25, 2018 3:36 AM

r371 i think it's a trait of narcissist parents. wendy williams refers to her son as "boy" or "the boy" ALL the time.

by Anonymousreply 373April 25, 2018 4:49 AM

^ Not all narcissists do that, but it is a narcissistic trait. Because they cannot form emotional connections. Trump has referred to Barron as "the kid." He said on Larry King live when Barron was a newborn, "Melania takes care of him, I hardly ever see the kid."

by Anonymousreply 374April 25, 2018 6:12 AM

It's possible that Sonja's forbidden by her ex-husband to mention the girl's name on the air. The girl looks remarkably like Sonja; given Sonja's shenanigans, I wonder how she's fitting in at school. I think she might be at Farmington or Choate RH.

by Anonymousreply 375April 25, 2018 12:22 PM

Her daughter was definitely forbidden to film in the early seasons.

by Anonymousreply 376April 25, 2018 12:25 PM

If she wants to stay in daddy's good graces, she won't show her face.

by Anonymousreply 377April 25, 2018 12:27 PM

Tonight looks good. The dinner party will be awkward as hell

by Anonymousreply 378April 25, 2018 2:56 PM

Tensions erupt!

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by Anonymousreply 379April 25, 2018 2:57 PM

I love these episodes of NY when they are together.

by Anonymousreply 380April 26, 2018 2:17 AM

Waaaaait a minute! Ramona beds the help for favors! I'm dyyyyyyying!

Sonja never fails to bring it! (She can be such a messy bitch!)

by Anonymousreply 381April 26, 2018 3:44 AM

I can totally picture Ramona on her knees giving head in a filthy men’s room to get an additional 10% off her kitchen tiles or whatever.

by Anonymousreply 382April 26, 2018 3:47 AM

Carole had another nose job. Just saw her on WWHL. Looks like an improvement.

by Anonymousreply 383April 26, 2018 3:53 AM

" . . . you've been through a lot, my love."

"Oh, stop with this baloney! I'VE BURIED A HUSBAND, OKAY!!"

"Oh, we've heard THAT a thousand times, too!!!!!"

by Anonymousreply 384April 26, 2018 3:56 AM

Divorce IS like a death especially when there is a child/children involved which connects you to someone FOR LIFE whom you can't stand (or possibly wish was dead) and who may be using the kids to torment you. Unless the marriage was short term and no kids are involved and it's amicable and both parties just go their separate ways, divorce is like a death.

Doris Meddler and Carole know-it-all haven't gone through a divorce. How do they know it's not like a death, only the ex is still alive (as Beth pointed out) and can smear your name around town and aggravate you.

by Anonymousreply 385April 26, 2018 4:06 AM

The point is Dorinda brings her past just as much as Sonja.

by Anonymousreply 386April 26, 2018 4:09 AM

Sonja was shit faced at Lu's brunch. Only this time, Bravo didn't included any footage of her drinking before or during it.

by Anonymousreply 387April 26, 2018 4:12 AM

I meant DORIS was already shit faced at Lu's brunch!

by Anonymousreply 388April 26, 2018 4:13 AM

There are so many great side digs and comments that's hard to catch on a first viewing.

by Anonymousreply 389April 26, 2018 4:13 AM

R386 That's true.

But Dorinda thinks she's the only one who has suffered. Many people going through divorce suffer that their marriage is over, the loss of someone they once loved enough to marry and of course married the person thinking it was for life only to realize it's over. No one gets married thinking it will only last a short while.

Everyone I know of who went through a divorce especially after having kids together said it was just like a death to them. They were grieving the loss. That is how they experienced it. As a death. Not everyone who went through a divorce, but most divorced people have said that.

by Anonymousreply 390April 26, 2018 4:18 AM

On another note here, self-centered Ramona made the 'Carole Marathon Celebration Party' all about herself.

by Anonymousreply 391April 26, 2018 4:20 AM

Sonja been divorced for 12 years get over it! She also is so jealous of tinsley that's it's just sad. Ramona was surprising likeable in this episode.

by Anonymousreply 392April 26, 2018 4:23 AM

Why isn't Carole having her OWN party?

by Anonymousreply 393April 26, 2018 4:24 AM

Because Ramona offered to host a party for Carole.

by Anonymousreply 394April 26, 2018 4:26 AM

Sonja is, "A legacy?" What is she talking about in her tag line? What legacy?

by Anonymousreply 395April 26, 2018 4:28 AM

The "Gold Plated" fixtures in Ramona's Hamptons home's master bath! The jungle of exposed electrical cords hanging from the flat-screen TV in her Hampton's home!

Was Ramona 'dating' the grocery store delivery man, Kurt,' in this episode as well?

AND! The Bravo producers are so shady! In the scene where everybody is at Ramona's Hamptons home for a dinner party to celebrate Carole's completing the NYC marathon, the cameras pan the back of B's date, Dennis, long enough to do a full scan of the back of his bald head, thereby disclosing the tell-tale horizontal surgical scar of a failed attempt at a hair transplant!

I love this crap!

P.S. The window coverings on Ramona's Hamptons home's French Doors are filthy.

by Anonymousreply 396April 26, 2018 4:32 AM

oh come on. Sonja married a much older man for money. She didn't love HIM, she loved the lifestyle he afforded her. It's not like she met the love of her life and then divorced. Dorinda saw through the bs

by Anonymousreply 397April 26, 2018 9:06 AM

Carole was asked on WWHL if she'd rather run another marathon handcuffed to Aviva or be trapped in an elevator for 24 hours with Trump...she chose Trump!

I can't believe she hates Aviva that much

by Anonymousreply 398April 26, 2018 9:07 AM

There's something almost storybook about the NY franchise that makes it so appealing. The way the ladies interact with one another where it's super whimsical and off the cuff makes the whole show that much more... enchanting? Tonight's episode was seriously great. I was hooked from beginning to end.

by Anonymousreply 399April 26, 2018 11:14 AM

Also, this was definitely Dorinda's iconic episode. This was for sure her RHONY hallmark occasion. EVERY single line uttered from her tonight was gold and will be referenced for years to come.

by Anonymousreply 400April 26, 2018 11:26 AM

She will have a lot of quotes to choose from for her merchandise.

by Anonymousreply 401April 26, 2018 11:38 AM

r399, I agree. It sometimes goes by so quickly that I am not even sure of everything that happened.

by Anonymousreply 402April 26, 2018 11:39 AM

Yes, it's not about divorce. It's about SONIA's divorce. Dorinda wouldn't say that to Bethenny. She's KNOWS B went through hell. Sonia is a lying golddigging grifter. And tiresome.

by Anonymousreply 403April 26, 2018 11:39 AM

Exactly R403. Sonja married for $$. Sh doesn't miss her husband, she missed the $$ and life. Now she takes the Hampton's jitney!

Bethenny was completely unlikeable again and made Ramona seem sympathetic. All the cracks about how dated her house is as she is hosting her. We get it B you have a hard on for Ramoner. Granted that house does need some serious renovation.

Dorinda was killing me, especially her talking head about the Countess stepping in it with B's boyfriend Dennis, asking how they met. That was hilarious! Did anyone else seem to think that Dennis seemed slow? He did seem like a nice enough guy but was kind of off.

by Anonymousreply 404April 26, 2018 11:46 AM

Carol is the worst of the lot - at least with the others, they're upfront with their neediness and insanity. Carol acts as though she's the enlightened one. She claims to have run the marathon because she was turning 54 and in memory of her dead husband (who she was married to for five years, he's been dead three times longer than they were married), but then expects a party in her honor - was put out Ramona's party was significant enough (she wanted a marathon themed party) for her accomplishment (it was a buffet). Then there's Bethenny, for however crazy she is, initiated her own relief effort for Puerto Rico, funded mostly out of her own pocket - rented planes, sent food, supplies - an incredibly impressive accomplishment - for the sake of others, and never once did she say she expected a party. Carol chooses to do the marathon for her own sake and expects others to carry her through the streets. And, I always wondered why she's hanging onto that last name with her cold dead hands: when you see her loser friends and her Appalachian family cheering her own, it makes sense. Also, is there no one in her life to let her know what a dimwit Adam is? Does he have an undiagnosed head wound?

by Anonymousreply 405April 26, 2018 12:10 PM

Do we think this might be Carole's last season?

by Anonymousreply 406April 26, 2018 12:30 PM

Some of us may hope so. And it should be Sonja's last season, too. She's lurched from amiable whack job into some sort of serious mental disorder, and I'm betting it's tied up with late menopause, "going off her hormones," and possibly not tapering off her antidepressants. Whatever it is, it's no longer entertainment.

by Anonymousreply 407April 26, 2018 1:05 PM

People, who think a divorce is like a death, don't know what they are talking about. Divorce is hard but death shakes you to the core and you are never the same.

by Anonymousreply 408April 26, 2018 2:27 PM

I think for some people divorce may have the same effect. Besides, it's ridiculous (and unseemly, damn it) to have a pissing contest over whose pain is the worst/most profound/most entitled to attention and sympathy. Your pain is your pain, and the worst it can be for you; mine is the same for me. These women desperately need maturity.

by Anonymousreply 409April 26, 2018 2:42 PM

Definitely Sonja's last season. You can tell everyone is tired of her shit.

by Anonymousreply 410April 26, 2018 3:12 PM

In her defense, Sonja never actually said that divorce = death.

by Anonymousreply 411April 26, 2018 3:28 PM

Ramonja breakup?

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by Anonymousreply 412April 26, 2018 3:29 PM

No, she didn't. It was Dorinda who conflated the two by trying to one-up Sonja's divorce misery with her own widowhood. I know she's the house favorite, but I'm less fond of Doris by the week.

by Anonymousreply 413April 26, 2018 3:32 PM

I cannot see Tinsley making a third season.

by Anonymousreply 414April 26, 2018 3:33 PM

I wonder if this series has finally run its course. If the only way to salvage it is to bring back the women who were kicked to the curb (with reason) in prior seasons, the producers should probably just pronounce the show dead.

by Anonymousreply 415April 26, 2018 3:40 PM

r415, all the franchises are having the same problem.

by Anonymousreply 416April 26, 2018 3:41 PM

No one cares about the former HWs. Ignore the insane Jill Troll. Beth was the exception since she became famous after she initially left RH.

Stert over with new people.

by Anonymousreply 417April 26, 2018 3:48 PM

Kim and Nene on ATL, Danielle on NJ, Lydia on OC, Camille to a certain extent on BH - they have all attempted the returns.

by Anonymousreply 418April 26, 2018 3:51 PM

I'm imagining a reconstituted RHNY with Kelly, Jill, Heather and Aviva joining.....I guess Ramona and Luann would be the only holdovers. I wouldn't watch this past the first week. Best thing is to start with a new cast as r417 suggested.

by Anonymousreply 419April 26, 2018 3:56 PM

NY would be fine with slight minor retooling. BH needs a complete overhaul. I don't even consider NJ anymore.

by Anonymousreply 420April 26, 2018 4:01 PM

I feel bad for Sonja. She's nuts and everything but I can't help but feel they are abandoning her at this point because she's poor as a church mouse and takes the jitney to the Hamptons. She's no longer useful to them and is probably not going to get another season on the show so they are mean girling her ass.

by Anonymousreply 421April 26, 2018 4:03 PM

And if Jill was there she'd go in for the kill.

by Anonymousreply 422April 26, 2018 4:03 PM

I think Sonja is an easy target. Keeping the same cast, they clearly needed the same scapegoat. Because the other formula is bring on the newbies and let them attack each other.

by Anonymousreply 423April 26, 2018 4:04 PM

Sonja gets no sympathy from me. She needs to go.

Dorinda was over-the-top last night but I agree with what she was saying to and about Sonja

by Anonymousreply 424April 26, 2018 4:14 PM

Bethenny and Carole still seemed chummy at this point in filming.

by Anonymousreply 425April 26, 2018 7:36 PM

Carole said some pretty nasty things about Bethenny and opted to kill her in the marry, shag, kill NY housewife edition on WWHL.

by Anonymousreply 426April 26, 2018 8:33 PM

She essentially calls her a liar.

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by Anonymousreply 427April 26, 2018 8:34 PM

These women are not friends with each other, at least not my idea of a friend. As soon as any one of them is disabled/disfigured in an accident or goes broke they will be G-O-N-E. They will not return calls/texts and no future party invites either. They will not be there for a cast member who ends up down and out, unless of course there is something in it for them or they can somehow exploit her.

My guess is that within 3yrs (or less) none of them will be speaking to the other, unless they are being well compensated to do so. They will not have long-lasting relationships based upon love and trust, even after their contracts are up.

by Anonymousreply 428April 26, 2018 8:43 PM

The majority of the casts are not "friends", so why do we need the façade?

by Anonymousreply 429April 26, 2018 9:12 PM

They don't know how to be friends. A true friend doesn't compete, back stab, insult, offend, etc.

by Anonymousreply 430April 26, 2018 9:57 PM

I believe unlike RHOBH some of the New York cast members were once friends and knew each other for years off camera (Dorinda / Ramona / Sonja). However I think that after years of filming, those friendships have dissolved and they all hate each other and are competitive and would not keep in touch.

The real drama between these Housewives (I suspect) is off camera. They are constantly pissed at each other for leaking items to the press and supposedly making each other look bad on blogs, New York Post, Page Six, for potential business deals etc. You can hear some of them yell about it on the show sometimes.

Mostly all those scenes are cut and they don't talk about it because clearly talking about the press breaks the "fourth wall" of television and then it would dissolve the viewers' fantasy that they are watching "real people."

Last season, Bethany quickly mentioned that she knew Donald Trump from "Celebrity Apprentice" and they quickly moved off the subject and dropped it bc talking about it would make it clear she's "on teevee" and a "reality star" and break the illusion on the show that we are watching the life of a NYC businesswoman and mom

by Anonymousreply 431April 26, 2018 11:34 PM

I wouldn't say any of the women hate each other. I agree about the competition aspect to keep their position on the show. Some are genuine friends. What really binds them all together is that even if they WEREN'T friends, they would still be in the same Upper East Side universe. Their friends all know each other. It's all very connected, seriously.

by Anonymousreply 432April 27, 2018 1:05 AM

They all know that they have to make a show and what to do in front of the cameras.

But there is never pleasing this type of audience. People will bemoan how boring it is if the women do nothing, but the same people also love to attack anyone creating the necessary drama.

by Anonymousreply 433April 27, 2018 1:49 AM

I'm always amazed how NY can do a dinner/party scene better than any other franchise.

by Anonymousreply 434April 27, 2018 1:23 PM

The Carole and Bethenny friendship never seemed all that genuine, unlike the Carole/Heather friendship where you could actually believe that those two liked each other and had each other's backs. I always got the impression that Carole and Bethenny became friendly by default because they both think the others are crazy. Bethenny clearly believes she's above these women and is only there for the brand exposure and the check. If she's no longer "friends" with Carole, Bethenny really doesn't have an ally and is basically just a one woman Greek chorus lobbing zingers at the expense of the other women.

by Anonymousreply 435April 27, 2018 2:01 PM

R435's analysis would explain why (according to reports) Bethenny has aligned herself with Sonja and Luann--there's nobody else left. And lord knows that's an improbably alliance given her past relationships with those two.

by Anonymousreply 436April 27, 2018 2:05 PM

Carole and Heather are still friends, so that was genuine.

by Anonymousreply 437April 27, 2018 2:19 PM

Oh please. The fact that Carole is not "shocked" by it means she is in on it. They all know the game by now.

by Anonymousreply 438April 27, 2018 2:20 PM

Why would anyone throw a party celebrating Carole's marathon? She finished in last place and had to be strapped to a gurney and wheeled across the finish line. She expects a party for that? These women are so damn entitled.

Ramona said that her Hamptons home had increased in value 7x over what she paid for it. That explains how she could afford such a big house(tacky, but big) in the Hamptons. Well, she bought before prices skyrocketed.

Bethenny has aged 10 years since last season. She needs a facelift. She's starting to look like Jill's mother.

Dorinda is the most entertaining housewife on any of these shows. She's smart, funny and messy. The fact that she has a good heart elevates her over the likes of Ramona, NeNe, Tamra and Vicki. A winning combo for reality TV.

by Anonymousreply 439April 27, 2018 4:30 PM

From the editing of this last episode it seems Dorinda has gone off John a bit.

Sonja has to stay on. She's a genuine loon who provokes a lot of good laughs. Who can forget her drunken scenes in Mexico. They were fantastic. If she were to go I'd miss seeing her run around their vacation rentals with Ramona staking out the best rooms.

Loved Lu in this episode. She seemed laid back, cool and sexy

by Anonymousreply 440April 27, 2018 5:02 PM

Dorinda will never let go of John's THICK, MEATY cucumber cock.

by Anonymousreply 441April 27, 2018 5:06 PM

Oh, I bet she'll willingly let go of John. She knows he's beneath her socially (or at least beneath her social aspirations, since I think prior to Medley she really was a bridge-and-tunnel girl).

by Anonymousreply 442April 27, 2018 5:09 PM

I'm honestly surprised Bravo did not bring on a "friend of" Tinsley in order to further solidify a younger cast.

by Anonymousreply 443April 27, 2018 5:09 PM

Are men lining up to replace John as Dorinda’s boyfriend? Is a 50something drunk with anger issues and a maybe coke addiction appealing to straight men?

by Anonymousreply 444April 27, 2018 5:09 PM

don't know, r444, but I doubt she'll leave John until she has someone else lined up.

by Anonymousreply 445April 27, 2018 5:14 PM

R444. You forgot wealthy. So no problem getting bfs.

by Anonymousreply 446April 27, 2018 5:15 PM

R440 no she doesn't need to stay on. Sonja is not entertaining and her antics are tired and desperate. She should have been fired at least 2 years ago

by Anonymousreply 447April 27, 2018 5:17 PM

WTF is with Ramona's face when she speaks? Every damn muscle goes into overdrive.

by Anonymousreply 448April 27, 2018 5:37 PM

[quote]I'm honestly surprised Bravo did not bring on a "friend of" Tinsley in order to further solidify a younger cast.

There's no need since Carole brings in the younger viewers all by herself. Lots of 20-something straight men tune in to lust after Carole, and young women watch so they can copy her style.

by Anonymousreply 449April 27, 2018 6:05 PM

jesus, really?

by Anonymousreply 450April 27, 2018 6:13 PM

C arole's a sweetheart. She really is She was hurt because none of the other girls showed up to support her at the Marathon and that resentment carried over to the party unfortunately. She was prompted to bubble head those ridiculous ungrateful remarks which were edited to make her look poorly . Whose dick does she have to suck to get a good edit?

by Anonymousreply 451April 27, 2018 6:55 PM

R433 Exactly. The asshole viewers are always complaining no matter what. Bitch Bitch Bitch is all they do.

Never satisfied!

by Anonymousreply 452April 27, 2018 6:57 PM

R443 probably because at this point she has none. Like not even fake friends.

by Anonymousreply 453April 27, 2018 11:33 PM

I loathe Bethenny, but at least she appropriately called out all the women's ridiculous outfits at Ramona's dinner party, including her own. Carole's tattoo body suit was particularly ridiculous. It would've looked hideous on who it was intended for - a girl in her 20s. But on a 50-something stick figure, it was downright embarrassing.

by Anonymousreply 454April 28, 2018 1:33 AM

Bethenny is keeping it a little more low key this season. Her snark is welcome when it's not vicious or bitter.

by Anonymousreply 455April 28, 2018 2:27 AM

IDK R455 B has still been a snarky bitch. She was especially rude to Ramona who hosted the party and B was throwing insults at her. Then the self pity when Carole and Tinsley didn't acknowledge her sufficiently in the restaurant. She seems isolated because she is. She can cozy up to Sonja but really? Sonja? Sonja is pathetic and LuAnn will tolerate her for while but I doubt she forgot the episode in the Berkshires. Should be interesting.

by Anonymousreply 456April 28, 2018 3:08 AM

I agree Bethenny's been trying hard to keep it light and cute but the old her keeps slipping out. The joke about breaking Ramona's expensive vintage glasses ("who cares they are from the 70s") was particularly loathsome.

by Anonymousreply 457April 28, 2018 3:38 AM

You all should realize Sonja and Lu have grown into being actual best friends. They constantly post things of them hanging out on social media during the off season. It's been this way for a few years now. If anything, Sonja needs Lu to vouch for her to keep an apple.

by Anonymousreply 458April 28, 2018 4:49 AM

Who would have thought that Lu and Bethany would be the nice ones this season.

by Anonymousreply 459April 28, 2018 6:16 AM

The shifts in alliances should be very interesting to watch play out.

by Anonymousreply 460April 28, 2018 12:50 PM

It will never work. Bethenny and Luann have loathed each other for years; they'll never be able to keep up this charade.

by Anonymousreply 461April 28, 2018 12:54 PM

After the way Bethenny treated her, she owes Luann a big defense against the other women.

by Anonymousreply 462April 28, 2018 12:58 PM

Oh, I don't know about that. Lu gave as good as she got.

by Anonymousreply 463April 28, 2018 1:19 PM

New vid Lu's arrest

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by Anonymousreply 464April 28, 2018 3:44 PM

I have a hard time feeling sorry for Luann. She was such an insufferable cunt in the earlier seasons.

Tbh I don't think her party girl persona is legitimate either. She seems to be an empty shell desperate to keep her paycheck from the show.

by Anonymousreply 465April 28, 2018 3:51 PM

R460 It's just more evidence of how fake these shows have gotten. Do we really think that Bethenny and Luann would be friends in real life?

by Anonymousreply 466April 28, 2018 3:53 PM

Every housewife on every franchise has been an insufferable cunt at one time or another (or all the time for some)...I don't fault Luann for trying to play the game in order to stay relevant. They all do it. Having said that, I don't believe the arrest was as calculated as the marriage.

by Anonymousreply 467April 28, 2018 3:54 PM

r466, why do we have continue to assess these shows with terms like "real life" and "real friends"? That idea has been blown up, and Bravo needs to stop mandating the façade.

by Anonymousreply 468April 28, 2018 3:56 PM

Throwback.

This was around the same time she was making fun of Alex's Herman Munster shoes.

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by Anonymousreply 469April 28, 2018 3:58 PM

Another person who wants Sonja fired (not just demoted).

And, who are the retards who agree to be her interns?

by Anonymousreply 470April 28, 2018 4:02 PM

that not who

by Anonymousreply 471April 28, 2018 4:02 PM

r470, they are likely just people who came to a casting call and want to be on tv.

by Anonymousreply 472April 28, 2018 4:06 PM

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by Anonymousreply 473April 28, 2018 4:11 PM

As if I needed a reminder, but Luann has always been a mass of pretensions and it's never been enough to disguise her complete lack of grace or class.

by Anonymousreply 474April 28, 2018 4:12 PM

Bethenny will end up estranged from her daughter. She is too damaged to have healthy relationships.

by Anonymousreply 475April 28, 2018 4:19 PM

Tinsley is by far the youngest.... and she's 42.

They'll keep this stable of hags around for one more season after this, then recast completely--with brand new women in their 20s and 30s. Probably more professionally or creatively accomplished ladies in their own right. The UES-type of social hierarchy is much interesting to younger women.

by Anonymousreply 476April 28, 2018 4:20 PM

"much LESS interesting..."

by Anonymousreply 477April 28, 2018 4:21 PM

Pathetic Sonja showed up at the dinner party in that sequined dress belonging to Luann?? WTF? I would not want her skanky ass in any of my clothing. And we're not going to be "entertained" any more by Sonja and Ramona running around to hog the best rooms on whatever trip they go on, because clearly those two are done. How could Sonja be so stupid as to send that text rant to Ramona, who was possibly her only remaining ally in this nest of vipers? She is pathetically weak.

by Anonymousreply 478April 28, 2018 4:29 PM

R473 Love Ramona's signature linebacker walk out to the stage.

by Anonymousreply 479April 28, 2018 4:57 PM

We're only a couple episodes in, and this is already a million times better than BH. The NY women always bring it.

by Anonymousreply 480April 28, 2018 5:05 PM

r480, that's especially evident in scenes when they are all together last week. Contrast that with the BH women gatherings, and it's like night and day.

by Anonymousreply 481April 28, 2018 5:06 PM

r476, I doubt Bravo will ever completely recast a franchise given its experiment with NY in season 5 that stalled the series completely.

by Anonymousreply 482April 28, 2018 5:08 PM

R467 Heather and Kristen were complete flops.

by Anonymousreply 483April 28, 2018 5:15 PM

I wouldn't necessarily call Heather a flop. Her attitude and willingness to get in people's faces was more than Carole has ever offered in 5 seasons.

by Anonymousreply 484April 28, 2018 5:17 PM

The NYC ladies can't stand the fact Bethanny is way wealthier than all of them will ever be. Especially Ramona. She is seething with jealousy. This given the fact that Bethanny was the brokest one when the series started and now she's TRUMPED everyone with her success and wealth and her multiple investments properties and that fact that whenever she goes anywhere now it's exclusively private plans only. I don't even think Dorinda can afford that. And I love Dorinda and know she's wealthy anyways. Bethanny showed these women the underdog always rise to the occasion.

by Anonymousreply 485April 28, 2018 5:35 PM

I think you right about that R485 but Bethenny will never really be happy.

by Anonymousreply 486April 28, 2018 6:20 PM

here's an extended video of LuAnn's arrest!

towards the end the officer even threatens to hogtie her lol she was really resisting arrest

"i'm gonna get you. You'll be so bad"

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by Anonymousreply 487April 28, 2018 6:26 PM

R487 The only reason Luann is still Alive is because she's a privileged white woman. If she was black she'd be six feet under and rotting right now.

And we all know I'm telling the truth.

by Anonymousreply 488April 28, 2018 7:42 PM

She is really f***ked up. Black women have been killed by cops for behavior like this.

Low class always shows sooner or later. Sad for the kids.

by Anonymousreply 489April 28, 2018 7:49 PM

R489 Black women (and men for that matter) have been killed for behavior that was far less antagonistic than what LuAnn was doing in that video.

I don't have sympathy for her and this arrest. Never did. I wonder if the cast will be totally sympathetic to her or will only her allies care.

by Anonymousreply 490April 28, 2018 8:11 PM

[quote]Low class always shows sooner or later. Sad for the kids.

That's the Eskimo in her.

by Anonymousreply 491April 28, 2018 8:13 PM

I would think (hope) that Bravo would advise these women to temper the sympathy for LuAnn, first because she doesn't deserve it for this kind of behavior and ought to be held accountable by her "friends", and second because we won't have been the only viewers to draw the conclusion that--yet again--an entitled white life matter a great deal more than black lives. Not a good look for Bravo if that happens.

by Anonymousreply 492April 28, 2018 9:04 PM

I hope LuAnn goes to jail. She deserves it based on her actions. So far she's been able to go around like nothing happened. It's bizarre

by Anonymousreply 493April 28, 2018 9:19 PM

That will never happen, but Bravo and her castmates ought to hold her feet to the fire. She's not just going around like nothing happened, she's launching this preposterous "cabaret show" career on the coattails of her arrest and rehab. On the one hand, I admire her balls. On the other hand, I think she has no redeeming social value.

by Anonymousreply 494April 28, 2018 9:48 PM

Luann is entitled and pretentious. She's fake and puts on airs at every chance she gets. Especially in the earlier years of the show.

But shes not fooling anyone. Her blue-collar roots still shines through. Ramona too.

by Anonymousreply 495April 28, 2018 10:03 PM

well look at how Bravo treats Teresa. She and her husband were convicted of tax fraud and other financial crimes yet they keep her as THE center piece to RHONJ. The past few seasons have been focused on having most of the cast be sympathetic to her. I doubt LuAnn's case will be any different

by Anonymousreply 496April 28, 2018 10:23 PM

I hope LuAnn takes the pain and humiliation she felt from the arrest and puts it into her music. I have a feeling her next album will be her rawest and most emotional yet.

by Anonymousreply 497April 28, 2018 10:31 PM

Bravo is a trash network ran by trash people. But we all still tune in though.

by Anonymousreply 498April 28, 2018 10:45 PM

Luann threaten to kill a police officer. Yes, she was drunk, but doesn't that require some time in jail. And she wrote that passive aggressive apology, something like "if you think I offended you I didn't mean to"

and this from the bitch who wrote a book on etiquette and holds others, besides herself, to standards of her deluded perceptions. And, why does she always tell people they need to apologize to her?

I don't know how anyone who even remotely knows these people socializes with any of them

by Anonymousreply 499April 28, 2018 10:49 PM

R499 I hope she gets jail time too.

by Anonymousreply 500April 28, 2018 10:56 PM

It's so awesome to listen to Carole clarify Luann as a countess while claiming she's an actual princess - she's not. In order to obtain British citizenship, Stanislaw Radzwill had to renounce his title and any land holdings he had in Poland - which, by the time he came around, were essentially none - due to taxes, wars, empty castles that were confiscated...his family was flat broke. Not aristocracy broke, literally broke. He was destitute, his relatives had to pay his way to London, he then relied on favors from others for the remainder of his life because he was a spoiled layabout. It's why Lee had to marry Herbert Ross then sell their East Hampton home - to remain solvent. Jackie didn't provide for her in her will. Lee sold the house for $20 million, Herb Ross hated her- so there are no titles, ancient trust funds, Anthony inherited a ghost lineage because his father had no other options, so no titles remain.

Yes, Anthony lived a glamorous life, but through proxy - his family connection to the Kennedys, Onassis....he lived a life as a fortunate relation to those who actually had it. Anthony was given a JFK rocking chair from John jr. which sold for a lot of money - that was how he had some, it sold for like 400,000 - so if theres money, thats what its from a - a rocking chair - not from a fabled aristocratic heritage.

Her claims of being a princess are completely false, perhaps she needs to think otherwise to justify her embarrassing life. Luanne's husband is a count, his family dug the Suez Canal or something so his claim is legit, Luanne's isn't, the moment she married someone, the title is no longer applicable. Poor thing, thats all she had.

I only know this as I wrote several pointless research papers on the stupid, irrelevant subject of European aristocracy lineage.

by Anonymousreply 501April 28, 2018 11:23 PM

R345 - Lisa Rinna does all those things to stay current and in the press. Harry Hamlin comes from a lot of money - and made quite a bit in his lifetime. They aren't hurting for anything unless they made some disastrous investment choices.

I like Lisa's hustle - but she really doesn't have to.

by Anonymousreply 502April 28, 2018 11:31 PM

France's gift of The Statue of Liberty to the US is also courtesy of the de Lesseps family.

Now, back to Carole. The 'Throat Grabbing' incident (in Season 2014) with the 'Princess Radziwill's' grabbing Aviva by the throat in the stairwell was because Aviva threw REAL LIFE shit in the Princess' face, saying, "The Kennedys want NOTHING TO DO WITH YOU!"

Carole (Princess Radziwill) knew this statement to be truth, for many, many painful years; hence her lashing out and physically attacking Aviva for publicly disclosing it.

(It is said at the end of filming this emotional scene, Princess Radziwill, upon returning home, cried, kicked, punched, scratched Lee's sofa in retaliation of this social disclosure; hence its continually shoddy appearance.)

by Anonymousreply 503April 28, 2018 11:38 PM

the stairwell incident

good thing Aviva had 1 hand on the railing

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by Anonymousreply 504April 28, 2018 11:50 PM

The de Lesseps family didn't give the statue; they made the presentation on behalf of France.

by Anonymousreply 505April 29, 2018 12:01 AM

LMAO - Bravo temper sympathy for Luann for an arrest? As r496 said, they allow that criminal ape from NJ to play the victim and she was actually found guilty and IN prison.

by Anonymousreply 506April 29, 2018 12:07 AM

Jules calls out Bethenny...then compliments her...

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by Anonymousreply 507April 29, 2018 12:18 AM

The "Carolyn Bessette-Kennedy's Style" DL thread has recently reemerged. Its doing so has got me thinking:

As many times as Carole has claimed she was this.close to Carolyn, the interweb contains no photos of the two together, anywhere.

Now, If my interweb research is inaccurate, please, by all means, post and share said photos.

by Anonymousreply 508April 29, 2018 2:09 AM

r508, I would assume she is not lying on that. There are plenty of photos with Carole and JFK Jr, so I would think they were all probably close.

by Anonymousreply 509April 29, 2018 2:19 AM

R508 Carole says in her book that they (jfk jr, Carolyn, her husband, etc) rarely took pictures together. It was something she regretted after everything was all said and done. She said there was only one or two pictures she had of her and Carolyn together. To my knowledge they’ve never been published.

by Anonymousreply 510April 29, 2018 2:34 AM

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by Anonymousreply 511April 29, 2018 2:37 AM

I loved Jules. I thought she fit in pretty well with the women except Bethenny. She was one of the better one seasoners across all the cities (Claudia Jordan in ATL is probably #1). I bet Jules and Tinsley would get along very well if she was asked back.

by Anonymousreply 512April 29, 2018 3:39 AM

Jules was ok. I would say she was more interesting than Kristen or Tinsley.

by Anonymousreply 513April 29, 2018 3:55 AM

@R510 - One's electing not to publish personal photos is understandable. The point is there are ABSOLUTELY NO photos (walking down the street, lunching, attending social events, etc.) anywhere. They were both high-profile women in their time, each married to very high-profile men who were closely related (first cousins). Yet there are no photos of the two women together.

In Carole's interviews about JFKJr. and Carolyn's deaths, claiming she was the last to speak to Carolyn, she also refers to herself as their 'cousin' / them as her 'cousin.'

Carole's full of shit.

by Anonymousreply 514April 29, 2018 4:05 AM

Reunion seating chart:

Tinsley - Carole - Sonja - Luann - Andy - Bethenny - Dorinda - Ramona

by Anonymousreply 515April 29, 2018 4:45 AM

Rewatching the season 7, which is pretty much when Luann came out of the closet, dropped the airs and became the "I don't give a fuck anymore" Lu. She was so funny in this.

by Anonymousreply 516April 29, 2018 5:14 AM

r516 season 7 reunion**

by Anonymousreply 517April 29, 2018 5:14 AM

Jules seems genuinely sweet. Tinsley is polite and pleasant but "fake nice."

by Anonymousreply 518April 29, 2018 5:41 AM

Jules said she wanted another season and was sad when she wasn't asked back. What I find interesting about that is Jules was the only woman of color on the show and they fired her after one season. And they bring Tinsley Mortimer on who really has nothing going on in her life. Jules has children and was going through a divorce and she obviously was OK with all of that being captured for the show if she wanted to come back for a second season. But instead they replaced her with a boring WASP girl has has no husband or children. Wasn't Jules supposed to be dorindas friend? If so someone should have spoken up for her to remain on the show.

The NYC franchise clearly dosent want diversity in the cast. Strange considering its NYC. The most diverse city in the fucking country if not the world.

by Anonymousreply 519April 29, 2018 5:48 AM

R519 but...but...she's Tinsley fucking Mortimer, the Tinz, former it girl!!!

by Anonymousreply 520April 29, 2018 6:08 AM

R520 who gives a shit about Tinsley Mortimer. She's boring and brings nothing to the show. At least Jules has a personality and was starting a business. That's probably why she wanted to stay on the show for the platform it would give her business. Also for the money since she was getting divorced. NYC really screwed up.

by Anonymousreply 521April 29, 2018 6:16 AM

R521/r519 you don't have a good sarcasm filter, do you?

by Anonymousreply 522April 29, 2018 6:31 AM

Interesting. Lulu is posting away happily on Insta, featuring clips of herself singing with a rehearsal pianist. A hundred- plus comments follow, some of them snarky but none of them vicious. This morning every comment that was even remotely snarky is gone, leaving a bunch of flattering sycophants. She must pay someone to scrub her comments on social media. (the only one remaining says "she sings like an angel" and is clearly tongue in cheek, but Lu/her minions took it literally)

by Anonymousreply 523April 29, 2018 12:01 PM

Lu dropped all the b/s the season with the pirate, no?

by Anonymousreply 524April 29, 2018 12:42 PM

r514, I don't think she was friends with Carolyn outside of JFK. I think they were probably "friends" by circumstance.

by Anonymousreply 525April 29, 2018 12:43 PM

Speaking of Carole Radziwill. Lee Radziwills new documentary about the beals and grey gardens is going to be released on May 18. It also covers a summer she spent in the Hamptons too. I believe it's called " That summer." I'm surprised there's not a thread for it seeing how DL love Lee Radziwill.

Just thought I'd put that out there.

by Anonymousreply 526April 29, 2018 4:12 PM

All that you said about the progeny of Anthony Radziwill may be true, but Carole never really talked it up like LuAnn did. To me Carole thought of it as kind of a laugh. Like get a load of this..I'm a princess. LuAnn was the one who thought they would be buddies because of their titles and they both know royalty or whatever. To her credit Carole wanted nothing to do with it.

by Anonymousreply 527April 29, 2018 9:35 PM

It's so strange how three of the women try to leverage status from being part of a family legacy that they only married into and for a relatively short amount of time (due to divorce or death). Sonja treats the J P. Morgan family heirlooms as though they are her part of her legacy from a family she grew up in, Luann treats the 'Countess' title and family history as though it is her own personal history (rather than something she assumed on marriage - albeit something she became attached to over the years of being with the Count), and Carole's life with her husband for five years, which, although tragic in its shortness, is nevertheless a very small part of someone's entire life - certainly not long enough to really 'be' the face of his family legacy for the rest of your life.

I know that 'marrying up' is how women have traditionally increased their social status, a hangover from times when they were not expected to go out and seek their own fortunes, but those marriages generally lasted longer than five years (and in a lifespan that was shorter than it is now) or didn't end in divorce and a new reality TV contract for the women - and also, there's a reason that the world has moved on. I just find it a bit of a charade and also a bit sad that their sense of their own value is so bound up in their late/ex-husband's social status.

by Anonymousreply 528April 29, 2018 10:11 PM

it was especially nauseating IMO for LuAnn to relentlessly bring up "I'm a countess" and now defiantly keeps using that stupid moniker given that the US DOES NOT believe in the stupid, backwards notion of "royalty/nobility". It shows how pretentious, desperate and social climbing she is to think that marrying into an inbred, entitled family means she's better than the rest of us.

Sonja would have done the same thing had the Morgans been Euro "nobility".

by Anonymousreply 529April 29, 2018 10:26 PM

Isn't LuAnn an Indian?

by Anonymousreply 530April 29, 2018 10:29 PM

Bethenny is allying with Luann and Sonja now, it will likely be:

Sonja - Luann - Bethenny - Andy - Dorinda - Ramona - Carole - Tinsley

by Anonymousreply 531April 29, 2018 10:37 PM

realistically Bethenny and Luann should swap so Luann is next to Andy but you know she'll never give that seat up

by Anonymousreply 532April 29, 2018 10:38 PM

R530, that's what I am wondering. LuAnn's Grandma is a full-blooded Native American

by Anonymousreply 533April 29, 2018 10:45 PM

I know R529, she genuinely seems to believe that being a 'Countess' makes her better somehow than other people. I'm in the UK and here we do have these systems, but most of us would baulk at the idea that somehow there is innate value to a person who has these titles, if anything it would invoke resentment among most of us I think, and it may be only because the system doesn't exist in the US that she is allowed to throw it in people's faces the way that she does (which, to be fair, I don't think someone who was born into the title would do).

All it means is that some ancestor somewhere was on the winning side of a battle or won a monarch's favour in another way, which, considering the bloody and ruthless history of power, domination and royal dynasties may not say much about the ancestor in question either.

by Anonymousreply 534April 29, 2018 10:49 PM

R528 not to mention Tinsley why does she still keep her married name Mortimer.

What's funny about the Tinz is that she tries to sell really hard that she herself came from a storied wealthy family. When she goes by "Tinsley Mercer Mortimer" it's almost more annoying than just Tinsley Mortimer, because fuck if the Mercer means anything.

by Anonymousreply 535April 29, 2018 10:55 PM

LuAnn's ex insisted she stop using his name after she divorced Tom. Of course she didn't listen and disrespects his wishes. She has not accepted that she lost that title.

Carole is a dingbat. She comes across as stupid and childish, using her late husbands name when they were only married 5 yrs and that was 20 yrs ago. Plus, they didn't have children together. She seems to be under the impression that by holding onto the Radziwill name she is still a Princess. That title went away when he died because once he died they were no longer married. Anyone else would have gone back to their maiden name by now. It's been 20 yrs and it was a short term marriage, ffs.

Tinz is another dingbat. They didn't have kids where she might want to retain the name for the sake of the kids. Same for Sonja.

These women are petty, childish and ridiculous.

by Anonymousreply 536April 29, 2018 11:14 PM

RHONYC Season 10 Reunion Seating Chart:

Lu-Sonja-Carole-Andy-Bethenny-Doris-Ramoana

My theory: Lu and Sonja are the Black Sheep of the series (no hate); excepting Andy (as the host), the placement of C and B is perfectly situated for a confrontation of 'Reality between Friends;' as the two had planned, all along; Doris gets to again scream at Sonja about the difference(s) between 'burying a dead husband' and 'Marital Infidelity,' and its related consequences; and Lu and Ramoana get to tell each other, repeatedly, "I told you so!" (Remember the season where Lu and Ramoana met for tea, with Ramoana throwing 'cheating' allegations in Lu's face, ending with Lu's standing up for an abrupt exit, though staying long enough to ask Ramoana, "BTW, How's that perfect little 'Trifecta' working out for you?"

Once more, with feeling:

Lu-Sonja-Carole-Andy-Bethenny-Doris-Ramoana

by Anonymousreply 537April 29, 2018 11:28 PM

The "Perfect little 'Trifecta': Ramoana, Avery, and Mario (Oops!)"

by Anonymousreply 538April 29, 2018 11:35 PM

R526. Merci. Wonderful news.

by Anonymousreply 539April 30, 2018 1:45 AM

The trailer to That Summer looks great sorry cannot yet link on this new Kindle Fire. Feel free to school me.

by Anonymousreply 540April 30, 2018 1:54 AM

4 episodes in and already reunion chart spec? LMAO

by Anonymousreply 541April 30, 2018 3:39 AM

R541 Right? We haven't even seen most of the drama, including the Bethenny/Carole falling out.

by Anonymousreply 542April 30, 2018 3:53 AM

I have a feeling the Bethenny/Carole thing is going to be a lot less dramatic than we think. I am more interested to see what they show of Catagena and the boat incident.

by Anonymousreply 543April 30, 2018 3:57 AM

R543 I agree. I'm also interested in how LuAnn's arrest is presented and handled.

by Anonymousreply 544April 30, 2018 4:04 AM

Carole's biggest mistake in life was not having a child with her late husband and securing her place in the legendary Radziwell/Kennedy family. I would have been rubbing that royal jelly all up in my pussy trying to have a baby and secure my future.

by Anonymousreply 545April 30, 2018 4:06 AM

R545 ditto the Tinz. And her husband actually WANTED to have a child, and it was she who didn't , because of her "career." What a dumb ass.

by Anonymousreply 546April 30, 2018 4:37 AM

Im not a fan of young Carol at all, especially this season, but most women who lose their husbands due to death dont go back to their maiden names, irrespective of the length of the marriage (which, at 5 years, is not that short of a time anyway.)

by Anonymousreply 547April 30, 2018 5:06 AM

r540, we still love you even tho you're in decline at the ripe, old age of 32.

Special, super-secret "heads up" to local Philadelphia Grey Gardens/Radziwill/Jackie On Assistance stans: an event is being planned for the third week of July which will interest you. Majorly.

(This is a real event, not like some Little Edie costume party...)

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by Anonymousreply 548April 30, 2018 6:17 AM

Carole has so much time to have a kid. She is only 22.

by Anonymousreply 549April 30, 2018 11:43 AM

If for some reason a title was bestowed upon one of you bitches I have a feeling you would be just like the Countess.

by Anonymousreply 550April 30, 2018 11:57 AM

KKB "explaining" Scary Island yet still making no sense...

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by Anonymousreply 551April 30, 2018 2:15 PM

I don't give a fuck about titles. I care about money and lots of it. I'm talking billionaire status. And as far as titles go. Being labeled a socialite is good enough for me. Titles mean nothing in America anyways. That's a European thing. In America it's all about fame and wealth. You have that, you're in the club. Especially wealth.

by Anonymousreply 552April 30, 2018 3:47 PM

Thank you, r552, for your intelligent contribution to this thread.

by Anonymousreply 553April 30, 2018 4:59 PM

KKB is, hands down, one of the stupidest people I've ever come across. If she decides she'd like a title, she can be Queen Malaprop. She never fails to bungle a catchphrase or misunderstand its meaning.

by Anonymousreply 554April 30, 2018 5:13 PM

At this point, I don't know why she just won't cop to whatever she was taking during that trip.

by Anonymousreply 555April 30, 2018 5:15 PM

Never! She's the world's biggest virtue-signaller. Did you read her quotes in that Reality Tea piece?

by Anonymousreply 556April 30, 2018 5:55 PM

I still cannot fathom how the god awful, boring BH gets more viewers than NY.

by Anonymousreply 557April 30, 2018 6:01 PM

Beverly Hills needs a major shake up. The NYC crypt keepers are much more entertaining.

by Anonymousreply 558April 30, 2018 8:09 PM

NY always holds my attention more than the other franchises.

by Anonymousreply 559May 1, 2018 11:35 AM

Tinsley going for the drama...

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by Anonymousreply 560May 1, 2018 2:23 PM

How was Tinsley ever an It girl? She's certainly generic pretty, but she's devoid of anything remotely interesting. She comes across as somewhat dim - she has no ability to express thoughtfully. How did she marry a Mortimer? He was a fucking Standard Oil heir - what the hell did he see in her? He's complete dork, but he could have had anyone.

She has the worst fashion sense - and loved how she was in that horrific red dress/shoes - cause that's a normal, everyday dress - and her ex unexpectedly shows up.

Then, with her esteemed lineage, does a reality show with her batshit crazy mother and some dubious German prince. How can you some from this supposed revered family line and do that? Oh, and then she did the whole crazy stalker shit - where she harassed - nd then was arrested - for attacking the Fanjul guy (sugar family) then go on a reality show without an ounce of embarrassment - I would have eft the country; instead, she's like "oops." - and who the fuck would date this nut? Oh, wait, she has an equally insane, deluded friend, Carol. (btw, Carol, we all know you are up in less than glamorous circumstances, but if you're going to eat on camera, learn to chew without your mouth open"

I just don't get how anyone found/finds her interesting.

by Anonymousreply 561May 1, 2018 2:36 PM

I could swear that Tinsley's late daddy had a rug or furniture store in Richmond. Anyone remember this? If true she ain't hardly landed gentry or FFV.

by Anonymousreply 562May 1, 2018 2:40 PM

Tinsley was an "it" girl in the days of Paris Hilton. It's not that big of a leap to understand it.

by Anonymousreply 563May 1, 2018 2:42 PM

Btw Anthony Raz and JFK Jr were very close and Jfk jr left Anthony money in his rust. So even tho Anthony only survived jr by weeks really he inherited from jr and Carole inherited from him. So yes, she does some Kennedy money

by Anonymousreply 564May 1, 2018 3:27 PM

Carole is a rich bitch

by Anonymousreply 565May 1, 2018 3:36 PM

Tinsley did want to be a famous socialite a la Paris Hilton but without the sex tape. She was confined to NYC society though and the reality show she appeared on several years ago "High Society" flopped miserably so most of the country didn't know or care about her.

by Anonymousreply 566May 1, 2018 7:02 PM

Tinsley is a loser. She could have led such a nice life of leisure if she had stayed married to her ex. Did he dump her?

by Anonymousreply 567May 1, 2018 7:04 PM

He gave her an ultimatum: stop the constant partying with the losers from High Society or the marriage is over.

by Anonymousreply 568May 1, 2018 7:30 PM

Does anyone remember Jules Kirby from Tinsley's first show? A trainwreck.

She'd be a PERFECT addition to RHWONY.

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by Anonymousreply 569May 1, 2018 8:41 PM

She was outrageously bigoted, if I'm remembering her correctly. Isn't she the one who cursed out a hotel maid on camera?

by Anonymousreply 570May 1, 2018 8:44 PM

Tinsley really needs to cut her hair, she looks like a desperate 40-something-has-been trying to hang on to her youth.

by Anonymousreply 571May 1, 2018 8:47 PM

That's why all the women on the OC have long hair. They believe it makes them look younger.

by Anonymousreply 572May 1, 2018 11:28 PM

Tinsley wanted to be a Paris Hilton/Kim Kardashian type of celebrity. It didn't work out for her. She had the reality show it failed. She even tried endorsing products that to failed. Paris and Kim are both really pretty girls. Tinsley is nice looking too. But she's not it girl material. And she never had to do what Paris and Kim did. She was already married to a very wealthy man. She just wanted the fame and like an earlier poster said was confined to NYC society. And people who follow NYC society aren't necessarily paying attention to Hilton and Kardashian.

Besides Paris and Kim are both LA bound which is where all of the Hollywood/celebrity media is. So with Tinsley doing the NYC thing. It was never going to work for her. You gotta be a paparazzi draw and she wasn't.

by Anonymousreply 573May 2, 2018 12:13 AM

Correction: I meant people who follow Paris and Kim aren't necessarily paying attention to NY society.

by Anonymousreply 574May 2, 2018 12:17 AM

Tinsley has no grit. Her name and lace collars say it all really. She could never compete in the Hilton Kardashian world.

by Anonymousreply 575May 2, 2018 12:36 AM

r575 on the contrary, Tinsley is clearly trying to hammer down a "signature look" that people will immediately identify with her. It's kind of working, too. When I think Tinsley, my mind automatically shifts to the peter pan collars and 1930s inspiration

by Anonymousreply 576May 2, 2018 1:03 AM

Tinsley must be in here talking to and about herself.

by Anonymousreply 577May 2, 2018 2:13 AM

Who?

by Anonymousreply 578May 2, 2018 4:07 AM

Kelly stays delusional. The women's jealousy still does not explain her own actions, but I suppose she will never actually address the real issue.

by Anonymousreply 579May 2, 2018 11:43 AM

You give Kelly far too much credit. I think Kelly is Special Needs who is mainstreamed only because she has a beautiful face.

by Anonymousreply 580May 2, 2018 12:43 PM

r580, sorry I don't buy it. She was on something and just refuses to admit it.

by Anonymousreply 581May 2, 2018 1:41 PM

Well, maybe. But then she must have been on it most of the time: remember I'm up here, you're down there? Countless other weirdnesses. Stupid and high isn't a good look no matter how good looking you are.

by Anonymousreply 582May 2, 2018 1:47 PM

r582, the "up here, down there" convo was just an extremely poor use of words. But I always understood what she meant.

It's funny looking back on it now after the tide has shifted with Bethenny. We see what an abrasive bitch she can be - imagine Kelly dealing with that initially.

by Anonymousreply 583May 2, 2018 1:53 PM

Kelly is speaciel....like speaciel for real.

by Anonymousreply 584May 2, 2018 2:06 PM

Sure, r582, but that whole conversation was incoherent and included Kelly popping out from behind a pillar like some deranged witch, 5 minutes after the encounter had ended. And another conversation about some "chaaaaaarity event" Jill was putting together, in which Kelly made some very peculiar speech about her charitable instincts. The woman is not playing with a full deck.

by Anonymousreply 585May 2, 2018 2:13 PM

Kelly is both special needs and a druggie. She is mainstreamed by her rich ex-husband who hires a staff to make sure the kids are safe. Around the time of the show, it was rumored he had an apartment in the same building as Kelly's (the one with the horse thing in it) and the kids always had supervision nearby, if needed.

by Anonymousreply 586May 2, 2018 2:43 PM

That sounds plausible, r568.

For anyone who cares and is having an indolent wednesday and wants to watch Jill run with a fabulous circle of people, Bravo is screening all of S1. Started about half an hour ago.

by Anonymousreply 587May 2, 2018 2:47 PM

It's always interesting to watch it back - Jill was inarguably the "star" of the show. You can't script it better than how her downfall played out.

by Anonymousreply 588May 2, 2018 2:52 PM

I always thought Jill would've been one of the OGs on NY housewives. But that ended up being Ramona and LuAnn.

Didn't Jill help to assemble the cast for the show? I believe she was behind helping to get Bethanny on the show. Jill was like the rich fabulous friend to Bethanny who basically took care of her when she had nothing. And now Jill is out UN the cold looking in from the outside.

Oh how the mighty have fallen.

by Anonymousreply 589May 2, 2018 3:06 PM

Are they still in the Hamptons tonight?

by Anonymousreply 590May 2, 2018 3:20 PM

Yes, Jill was the go-to for the Bravo production team in locating potential HWs, she may have been fabulous relative to Bethenny, but these women--including Jill--aren't even D-list. I just heard her refer to herself as a socialite who has to have new clothes all the time so she can make the NYT Sunday Styles section. Socialite isn't the same as socially prominent, and those who are the latter would never refer to themselves as "socialites."

by Anonymousreply 591May 2, 2018 3:25 PM

Who will dare to start a new thread with Jill as the cover pic?

by Anonymousreply 592May 2, 2018 3:27 PM

Well, if anyone does it, they should try to find one of her current pics with the hand-on-cocked-hip/come hither smile pose. She looks just like Ratatouille.

by Anonymousreply 593May 2, 2018 3:30 PM

Link to #4

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by Anonymousreply 594May 2, 2018 3:35 PM

New Thread

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by Anonymousreply 595May 2, 2018 3:35 PM

This is the dead thread

by Anonymousreply 596May 2, 2018 3:36 PM

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by Anonymousreply 597May 2, 2018 3:36 PM

Sonya’s days are numbered so she’s the star of thread #4

by Anonymousreply 598May 2, 2018 3:37 PM

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by Anonymousreply 599May 2, 2018 3:38 PM

Will the insanity never end?

by Anonymousreply 600May 2, 2018 3:38 PM

Referring to yourself as a "socialite" is desperation for sure.

by Anonymousreply 601May 2, 2018 3:40 PM
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