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SAM HEUGHAN, CLOSETED GAY ACTOR, LEAD IN "OUTLANDER" (HIDDLESWIFT 2.0)--PART 30

He's almost 38, never married, no legit girlfriends though his PR team is pathetically pretending otherwise in SM. He pings to high heaven.The bios that stated he was gay, have been scrubbed. Last year, Heughan and his rumored bf -Luke Neal- spent over a month travelling together around the world. Sam also brought Luke to the Outlander premiere and several private parties. . After this trip, the gay rumors about Sam were everywhere and Luke -an actor and writer- deleted ALL his SM. People who met Heughan at the British theatre, say that Sam was openly gay before the STARZ contract:

[quote]"Knew him in the theatre scene back in the day. Nice guy. And openly gay then."

[quote]"Oh darling, of course I’m an old gossip. Have you never met a theatre queen before? Everyone in the biz knows he’s gay, which is not a big deal here. But it is in the US and in the movie industry, so I don’t think anyone was shocked or upset that he’s decided to closet. He's Luke Evans 2.0"

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by Anonymousreply 602April 19, 2018 12:27 PM

For the newbies . Sources confirming that Sam is gay.

Our darling, Lady Goodman, whose cousin actually met Sam at the Real Conservatoire of Scotland, confirms that Sam is gay:

[quote]"I started watching Outlander last year and commented on Facebook how much I enjoyed it. My cousin private messaged me and was like "I went to RCS with Heughan,remember?" , I didn't because my cousin isn't in the acting/directing game anymore and is now working as a "civilian", so I'd completely forgotten he went to the Conservatoire as its now called. I commented that I thought he was lovely and he'd have to intro me when I was next in Scotland (I was saying this jokingly,I'm married.) and he replied "Sorry to burst your bubble, gorgeous as you are, I don't think you've got what he's looking for if you know what I mean..."

[quote]"And he was like "He's gay. I don't know why this is a thing. I'm sure he's photographed with women, I've seen him around home with women. He is gay. He just is. Didnt know he was saying otherwise. Weird to try and hide it now. Bit of a risk this late in the game."

by Anonymousreply 1March 27, 2018 4:53 AM

Lady Goodman wrote:

[quote]"I don't have a lot to add that hasn't been said,but all I know is this - The person who told me that Sam is gay, has no skin in the game. He's not bitter, he liked Sam when he knew him and he's no longer in the entertainment industry so there's no reason for him to lie or be malicious. He didn't even realise it was a big deal and honestly, we both didn't think Outlander was that big at home (Scotland), he's never even seen it beyond a few minutes and he didn't see it as outting him, he thought he was out."

by Anonymousreply 2March 27, 2018 4:54 AM

[quote]" Ages ago, I mentioned here that Sam and one other man consistently shared a mutual address for 10+ years (they had multiple roommates, as other people's names came and went, but theirs were constant from place to place). On this man's Facebook page, you can find posts about him being in Thailand a few years ago, and it doesn't appear he was alone or that it was his first trip. This same man looks almost exactly like the man pictured with Sam at the bar that was posted on a Brazilian Twitter page (green lights, otherwise very dark, Sam and a man sitting next to each other). I'd drop the "almost," except lighting and camera angles make a positive ID tricky. The timeframe would be just about right. This same man used to post very regularly on Sam's original Twitter account, then went almost completely silent after Sam started to gain some fame. I believe he was a long-time love."

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by Anonymousreply 3March 27, 2018 4:56 AM

Sam and Angus?

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by Anonymousreply 4March 27, 2018 4:57 AM

People who has met Sam's ex boyfriends......

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by Anonymousreply 5March 27, 2018 4:58 AM

More sources about Sam being gay, from the previous threads:

[quote]"I’ve known he’s gay since right after he was cast. Many UK fans I befriended early know it and shared that information. They have family and friends who work on Outlander. Others knew of Sam beforehand. Even though crew/production/cast sign NDAs they do share gossip with people they are close too who wont talk openly. Back then everything was more accessible but once the show premiered. and was a huge success, the UK fans all shut up. It’s like a protective shield around Sam to help him keep it a secret. But the truth is out there. More recently, I found out that the brother of my fiance best friend hooked up with Sam in drama school. It was in the context of a casual discussion when both the brother and my guy were both in a Barbour store together. The brother mentioned it in passing after seeing Sam in the window and my guy told me because he knows I’m a fan of the show. It’s NBD in Scotland or the rest of the UK. It’s an open secret scenario."

by Anonymousreply 6March 27, 2018 4:59 AM

Another source from Edingburgh:

[quote]"Straight woman lurker here and I'm actually embarrassed by the "he's gotta be straight" troll. He's not straight. My friend is from Edinburgh. His folks live in the same neighborhood as Sam's. Not exactly a secret and here's the amazing thing, nobody there gives a shit. Sam's a nice guy, so is his family. Its only the fans in the US that seem to lose their shit about an actor's personal life. For me, Sam's a cute pup but give me some Graham McTavish any day!"

by Anonymousreply 7March 27, 2018 5:00 AM

More sources:

[quote]"I've found DL and this thread when looking for "Sam Heughan gay" probably two years ago. Since that time, i am posting here. I am an Insider for PR, because that is my job for a long time. I have written about who i know and for what a couple of times here. I know, that Sam is gay. I know it because coincidentally i am since 35 years in the LBTG world. To make a long story short: I have met Freddy Mercury in Munich at a gay bar, with his Muse Barbara Valentin. So I know what i am talking about. Sam Heughan being gay is common sense. And no big secret in the community."

by Anonymousreply 8March 27, 2018 5:01 AM

From previous threads:

[quote]"In my opinion and what my gay friends say, who met him, he is a very nice adorable guy. As he self stated, he was raised from Hippies. Which have you to think, because he is born 1982, so Hippies time was already done. His father, who left the family, (and who gave him the genetic lottery gens), when he was two years old, was a Steiner school teacher. In the earlier days of OL, Sam gave a lot of interesting, thoughtful intervies not hiding his sexuality. The real Sam, knows what he is, it is a pity, that he choosed the closeting, which he, big points for him, has reduced to the lowest point.

[quote]"He was always gay, for them to read in between the lines. He tried not really to hide it. All his interacting with straight Steven McCree.Posting their banter on SM. Talking about officially of "9 of 10" Steven Crees testicles and dick. Sam is gay and probably a bottom, and 55 years of my life and every day more are telling me, that I am right to spread this here,"

by Anonymousreply 9March 27, 2018 5:03 AM

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by Anonymousreply 10March 27, 2018 5:05 AM

Sam and his rumored bf Luke Neal: "We are the least scary leather clad gunmem in the universe!"

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by Anonymousreply 11March 27, 2018 5:05 AM

Sam and Luke's longtime friends' reply to the pic: "You look like homoerotic german terrorists"

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by Anonymousreply 12March 27, 2018 5:08 AM

Link to the previous thread. The last posts were about Sam and Stanley Weber flirting over Sam's inviting ass,,,,,,;)

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by Anonymousreply 13March 27, 2018 5:10 AM

When Sam used to take Luke Neal to the parties.

Two couples: Cait and her bf Tony; Sam and Luke:

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by Anonymousreply 14March 27, 2018 5:19 AM

Sam is rather quiet on SM. I hope he is recharging....

by Anonymousreply 15March 27, 2018 9:45 AM

R15 He has an important scene to film- when Jamie meets his daughter. He probably must have some emotional preparation.

by Anonymousreply 16March 27, 2018 10:00 AM

R16 I believe you though this feels like total Gabaldon bs. Connections are not mainly biological but go beyond. If anyone was a father to that lady it was Frank. Anyway kudos to Sam if he can also turn this into something credible.

by Anonymousreply 17March 27, 2018 10:24 AM

Lol! The shamzies want what Sam and TB have. What a shame you have such low expectations for yourself shamzie. The reason it works is because she lives half way around the world from him after a supposed two year thing, and they can manipulate you very easily with some sm trickery and photo manipulation, and a few mandatory appearances where he treats her like a low rent escort. He then goes about his business undetected unless he wants to be seen.

by Anonymousreply 18March 27, 2018 12:32 PM

TB would be a perfect candidate for the Stormy Daniels movie. CGI would have to be used in the chest area,but face and hair right on.

by Anonymousreply 19March 27, 2018 1:31 PM

So. Sam was obviously not with TB in NYC they last days like the Shamzie Queen wanted her minions to believe. And so she has to write the next hymn about that jobless, former child actor. They really are so desperate about him being gay. And btw, they could not prove their announced and so hopefully wished date of Sam and TB when he was staying in LA for the Emmy panel. So the last interaction (besides likes on SM) was the VF red carpet (how much money invested her dad in buying her this, while no outlet posted this pic ever, like the SDCC one), when Sam spent his next day to meet Graham.

They have probably spent less than 10 hours together in the same room in the last six months.

by Anonymousreply 20March 27, 2018 1:42 PM

And that's what they call the love of his life. How wonderful. And a quickie every now and then. Who with a working brain wants this? I'm convinsed they don't believe this farce either, but better burn in hell than admit it.

by Anonymousreply 21March 27, 2018 1:48 PM

r21. What quickie? I ve seen my dentist more hours since September, than they have met for photo ops.

by Anonymousreply 22March 27, 2018 1:57 PM

Those Jennifer Allen specials are out there for gullible twats to knit together into a "relationship." Meanwhile, anyone who sees those posed photocells and pap walks what they are is labeled a "conspiracy theorist."

by Anonymousreply 23March 27, 2018 2:21 PM

**for what they are

by Anonymousreply 24March 27, 2018 2:22 PM

Another Heughan and LaCroix pub shot from two or three years ago...

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by Anonymousreply 25March 27, 2018 2:52 PM

Happier times?

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by Anonymousreply 26March 27, 2018 3:01 PM

God, Gay Sam is just so much cuter than than the character Hetero Sam...

by Anonymousreply 27March 27, 2018 3:07 PM

Real Sam is adorable indeed R27

by Anonymousreply 28March 27, 2018 3:18 PM

R27 & R28 ITA, the REAL Sam is so dang cute! I just want to eat him. I think he's a great actor too. He's done a great job with hetero "Jaime". However, I think his work would shine even brighter if the SHAMSIES and the PR MONGERS just let him be who he really is. I'm taking a positive route and looking forward to the day Sam blows out of that closet.

I just caught up on that EMMY panel too. It is SOOOOOOOO iceeeeee cold between SH and CB. Something went down and I'd love to know what. SH has mellowed so much he's almost comatose. Hmmmmmmmm.... Everyone, including TB, has been mysteriously quiet on SM too. PR must be frantically storyboarding another plan. TB isnt out of a job yet though. That melancholy IG post of a cliff last week was total bullshit. They're playing games with the fans. She'll be on a flight to Scotland before we know it to take pictures.......with (clearing my throat) zero indication of any commmited relationship with our boy.........OR..........PR may just make them both step it up a notch in the PDA dept. Hand holding, grinding hugs and hard kissess maybe? Stay tuned for the next ep of SHAMSIEVILLE.

by Anonymousreply 29March 27, 2018 3:57 PM

That Emmy panel was like a funeral. Everyone was comatose.

by Anonymousreply 30March 27, 2018 4:02 PM

Seven years later, Heughan with his "Young Alexander" co-stars, Paul Telfer, Lauren Cohan and Amy Shiels. They all went on to become TV actors.

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by Anonymousreply 31March 27, 2018 4:20 PM

Why did they reunite? At least Lauren Cohen has starred in several big shows....never seen Young Alexander. Any good?

by Anonymousreply 32March 27, 2018 5:04 PM

Sam and Balfe are perfectly fine together. Shamzie troll spinning their shit again with their all caps screaming is a sure give away that CO or Purv have written their version of the next beard event. He hasn't touched her like a bf should in two years. What makes you think he is going to now? He won't do it. In fact, most of their touching has been through photoshopping.

by Anonymousreply 33March 27, 2018 5:32 PM

r32. During filming they all suffered from Diarrhoe, Film was never finished (lack of Money?, Bad script). There only exists a trailer.

They met again couple of months, or years ago, i dont know for what occassion, or a lot oft the cast was at the same place by coincidence (CC?). May you grab yourself thru the last 29 threads or just use Google.

by Anonymousreply 34March 27, 2018 5:32 PM

[quote]So. Sam was obviously not with TB in NYC the last days like the Shamzie Queen wanted her minions to believe.

Exactly, he must have been in Scotland or London.

Another SHAMzie PR lie debunked....XD

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by Anonymousreply 35March 27, 2018 7:50 PM

R35 Well, Sam actually has a job, you know. He has to work, TB on the other hand...

by Anonymousreply 36March 27, 2018 7:59 PM

Just don't ever say anything negative about Sam ,I just made a comment about how bad his stylist and hair dresser have had him looking at GG,Oscar Party and the Emmy panel. I got a sharp response from the woman u call CO. I was told she tolerates nothing negative about Sam on her blog .Also told she has a lot of followers on SM. I said nothing about his sexuality or private life. It's none of my business, got blocked .I have closed my Tumblr account and limited my Twitter feeds. I just want him to go back to a more natural look dump Mr Monty and the hairstylist. He looks like an escapee from a boy band.

by Anonymousreply 37March 27, 2018 8:15 PM

Well r37. You realize, this is not tumblr? So, please no complaining about that here on DL.

Anythng else we shoud know here?

by Anonymousreply 38March 27, 2018 8:21 PM

r33 Beg to differ here. CB is chillier than ever. Something went down in the last few months. Those two actors really are so very different. No great loss. She always treated SH like shit. About the PDA; I don’t buy it. SH has no control. He signed up. What PR wants, PR gets. Stayed tuned for their tongues to be down each other’s throat. The truth about Sam is blowing up everywhere, thanks to more and more recovering OL fans who’ve seen the light, so STARZ, LG, PR ALLEN, JUST JARED, SAMSIEVILLE and all shippers included are panicking. The truth never EVER fails in the end.

by Anonymousreply 39March 27, 2018 8:34 PM

I agree R39. I expect the Shamzie shit to ramp up the next few months as the movie premiere approaches.

by Anonymousreply 40March 27, 2018 9:16 PM

R40 Yep, that RC shit parade will be here before we know it..... I would not be surprised at all if PR is upping the ante and directing SH and TB to lay it on thicker from herein out. YUCK! It’s in the homophobic contract! TB will be back in 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 before we know it. Ridiculous..... Sam plays a hetero like a master. He can play TB game too then.

by Anonymousreply 41March 27, 2018 9:57 PM

Sorry..

by Anonymousreply 42March 27, 2018 10:25 PM

[quote]SAMSIEVILLE and all shippers included are panicking.

Please spare us the drama queen tumblrina hens endlessly clucking. These are rich, privileged celebrities who don't need our pity. Just observe and comment and save your emotions for RL, FFS.

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by Anonymousreply 43March 27, 2018 10:27 PM

R43 You got that right, these actors, and in particular, Sam, are not suffering in RL. He doesn’t seem to be losing his soul over closeting either. I think it actually suits his purposes to keep his actual private life private. The way he gleefully stirs up the shit with fans with his costar Balfe, shows he’s ok with with keeping the confusion going. He is pretty aggressive in feeding the story that they are secretly together, more so than with the beard. He will stay on the downlow as long as possible. If he ever moves to the U. S though, his cover might be blown. Closeting gay actors or celebs is reprehensible, but he doesn’t need our pity.

by Anonymousreply 44March 27, 2018 11:08 PM

R44 TRUTH!

by Anonymousreply 45March 27, 2018 11:52 PM

He's not going to lay it on thicker. He looks like he is getting an enema every time he is near her. In two years he has kept it strictly PR event, little sister vibe. Posing here as supporters of gay Sam while trying to push your all caps, ramped up PDA agenda isn't going to fly here.

by Anonymousreply 46March 27, 2018 11:59 PM

Related: Eloquent, openly gay actor, Clark Moore, hopes that his role in Love, Simon will ease the way for gay black boys growing up and move the needle forward in Hollywood...

[quote]“I think [the film] would make straight people understand why it's such a big deal to come out,” said Moore. It's a lesson that Moore's character, Ethan, also shares in Love, Simon. Ethan is a classmate of Simon’s who is out in their high school — and occasionally bullied for it. Although Simon is struggling in the closet, he does not confide in his queer classmate because, as he tells Ethan in one moving scene, Ethan had made being gay seem so easy. Ethan reveals that even though he is visibly queer, stylish, and confident, he has struggles of his own. This exchange presents another lesson for audiences: The coming-out experience is not the same for all gay people, especially for those who have intersectional identities.

[quote]“The fact that there are little gay black boys [who] are going to see someone who looks somewhat like them, or can speak to an experience that's similar to theirs? That’s huge,” said Moore. “For so long, our stories and the LGBT community have been white-centric. They've spoken to an aspect of my identity, but not the full intersectionality of my identity.”

[quote]Experiences like these taught Moore the importance of visibility. An out actor and supporter of GLAAD, which fights for LGBT representaion in media, Moore appeared in Glee and an independent film, I'm Obsessed With You (But You've Got to Leave Me Alone), before landing his big break in Love, Simon. He was excited to be part of the film and its team: The production has a gay director, Greg Berlanti, as well as queer actors like Joey Pollari and Keiynan Lonsdale, who all understood its significance as the first movie centered on a gay teen to be backed by a major studio, 20th Century Fox.

[quote]“I think that resentment that our community has toward straight actors taking our roles is that the reverse doesn't happen as frequently,” said Moore, adding, "I'm less frustrated with straight actors taking gay roles and more frustrated that gay actors aren't allowed as frequently to play straight roles."

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by Anonymousreply 47March 28, 2018 12:15 AM

r46. Hmhh. Interesting thoughts.

BTW. We are meanwhile very trained in reading Jennifer Allens handwriting.

So, nothing what I predicted at the end of thread #28 happened at his last stay in LA. Remember my scripted scenario?

Instead we got now the Balfe and SH liking TB twitters and IG immediately to make the audience believe, that gay Sam Heughan is in a relationship whith TB.

Does that mean, that we at Datalounge have the power to PREVENT (sorry for the caps, couldn't resist) those PR moves just in predicting them in advance?

Hey, that looks like great fun!

Next thing to cover is Sam attending those best dressed guy style award on Saturday. They we have easter and then his birthday.

Guys I have to think about a possible scenario.

Meanwhile someone be so kind and post this new pic of gay Sam Heughan and probably gay Cesar Domboy (this name sounds always as a promise, when pronounced english).

by Anonymousreply 48March 28, 2018 12:24 AM

r47. Thank you so much! You gave me a great idea, looks like i have to find this movie. Never heard about it.

You are one of the reasons, that I am still posting and reading here!

by Anonymousreply 49March 28, 2018 12:31 AM

What I find insane is that HW loves "gay" movies? But, not openly gay leading men.

by Anonymousreply 50March 28, 2018 12:59 AM

[quote]Posing here as supporters of gay Sam while trying to push your all caps, ramped up PDA agenda isn't going to fly here.

Word, R46.

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by Anonymousreply 51March 28, 2018 1:08 AM

[R48] what, this?

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by Anonymousreply 52March 28, 2018 1:18 AM

r52. Jaa. Thank for that. Here we go. Any thoughts? Cute gay, this César, has also in his bio a gay movie.

by Anonymousreply 53March 28, 2018 1:31 AM

R46 R48 You just hit the nail on the head ;)

[quote]"They have probably spent less than 10 hours together in the same room in the last six months."

[quote]"He looks like he is getting an enema every time he is near her. In two years he has kept it strictly PR event, little sister vibe."

SO TRUE, lol

[quote]"I got a sharp response from the woman u call CO. I was told she tolerates nothing negative about Sam on her blog .Also told she has a lot of followers on SM. I said nothing about his sexuality or private life. It's none of my business, got blocked" .

SHAMzie Troll #2 CO, has talked about Sam's sexuality before, she KNOWS the truth but keeps pushing the SHAMzie charade and obsessivaly, defending the beard. I wonder why.....

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by Anonymousreply 54March 28, 2018 1:37 AM

R52: Now that's a couple I could get behind (no pun intended). Hot!

by Anonymousreply 55March 28, 2018 1:37 AM

Sam Heughan is gay. Non issue. He’s made his choice. TB can pay her rent. HW and OL fans are homophobic. Sam could not give one shit what people think. This is stupid. Sam Heughan is gay.

On a lighter note r52, how cute are those two?!

by Anonymousreply 56March 28, 2018 1:40 AM

[R56] Cute indeed. Two very beautiful men. Sam... fuckery or no... I can’t kick my habit. He gets under my skin.

by Anonymousreply 57March 28, 2018 1:50 AM

r56. Yes. Cesar is really hot. But he got this look in the last two years. Before he was just cute in the boyband sense.

Me, still thinks, that Sam is more into the more manly guys, like Duncan (and before Luke). Cesar is something 28, ten years younger, may be they ve had a short fucking gig, but I think Sam is looking for the longer run. As stated here before, Sam shared mutual lodgings with the same guy over ten years.

Next: I believe, that TB has given up her LA Appartement around September last year, because she could not afford it anylonger. She spends most of her time at her parents place in the PNW Areal.

This explains also the four month brake in the PR history bearding Sam. She was just not available in LA and JA PR did not want to spent the money to fly her to LA for the GG and later for the Emmy panel.

The VF Party red carpet was hard work for Sam (remenber, that he got one of the last slots to walk the carpet). She was just an additional +1, her Daddy or Starz or her bearding contract payed for.

Why there are no ever published pics inside the VF and the Joshua Kimmich Party? Because no one took a picture. Otherwise there would be tons of pictures some photographer would have try to sell to any kind of website or magazine. Even to the local dentist journal.

So, summarize, this all is just a huge pile of BS.

by Anonymousreply 58March 28, 2018 2:21 AM

R58. Juicy juicy...... she really had to move back home? Thought for sure they paid her way in LA.

by Anonymousreply 59March 28, 2018 2:59 AM

Any proof se moved back to PNW? Anyone know what the New York post was about? Doesn’t seem like she was with Sam in NY.

by Anonymousreply 60March 28, 2018 3:09 AM

Gay Sam in front of fireplace

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by Anonymousreply 61March 28, 2018 3:15 AM

R58 R60 I thought TB was from North Carolina or somewhere in that vacinty. PNW? Hmmmmmmm That explains the Sea Hawks fandom. What NY post? Didn’t see that either. A new one?

Anyway, these gay vids and pics of Sam are adorable.....

by Anonymousreply 62March 28, 2018 3:27 AM

Ok whatever.... stay in closet if you must (totally against that though), but please please please get rid of TB.

by Anonymousreply 63March 28, 2018 4:08 AM

Family owns a microbrewery in PNW, they are from the Carolinas. She posted an Instagram story from NY last week.

by Anonymousreply 64March 28, 2018 4:33 AM

R39, I agree with R33. He's always drawn the line at actually acknowledging TB as a GF or showing affection in any normal way. He's done the requisite red carpet and pap walk photos, a few photos posted, almost all (in two years) not by him--he posts RC photos of himself only. I think that's his line with Jennifer Allen and PR. He's also always encouraged alternative stories about his social life via his social media, wink wink. I'm no expert, could be proved wrong when he makes out with TB in some public photo shoot, but my bet is he keeps it right where it is. If you google Sam Heughan girlfriend, up pops TB. He doesn't care about us and the those among the fans who suspect. It's the casual viewer they care about, aka plausible deniability.

by Anonymousreply 65March 28, 2018 4:57 AM

R65 I believe you are right, Sam doesn't care and likes playing games....confusing fans.

R48 Curious what you will predict:)

by Anonymousreply 66March 28, 2018 8:07 AM

SH can now sometimes be quite tedious with all his games. He needs to be careful with his innuendos etc, as some fandoms can be fickle, particularly if they come to feel that they are being played, and casual viewers can get bored. Much as he seems to enjoy his SM games, his primary need is to impress casting directors /studio heads if he is to establish himself for the longer term. Hopefully he will do this (he does have real talent) and he can focus on his core business, his acting. In the meantime, if he must beard (and sadly that does seem to be the case), he really does need to have someone more credible.

by Anonymousreply 67March 28, 2018 11:04 AM

I always wonder, who this "average viewer, casual fan" might be.

There are a probably small amount of people like us, who invest a lot of time posting and doing research. This group splits in the "Sam is straight" group" (with the samcaits and shamzies) and the "Sam is gay" group, especially here.

There must be a approximatly group of some Million people (mostly female) who just watch the show, when it airs. So some of them may be curious and Google Sam Heughan. What happens then? What will show up?

I cant answer this question in a neutral way, because my Google Algorithmen is already manifested from my searches.

So, googling "Sam Heughan" the first time. What gets the average viewer to see? I ve realized, that on my list, Sam Heughan gay is one of the first things offered to me.

I have to try it with another browser, what will I do right now.

And then I have to work on my PR strategy paper for Jennifer Allen for the next bearding scenario :-) You know, I am young and need the money.

by Anonymousreply 68March 28, 2018 11:42 AM

The beard is from Lancaster Pa and North Carolina, Charlotte I believe. I have no problem with him doing whatever...but please get rid of her. She so tacky bless her heart.

by Anonymousreply 69March 28, 2018 2:31 PM

R69 ITA. Stay in that closet if you must, but get ride of the girl. She’s not a child and needs to hit that pavement harder on her own if she wants to feed herself as an actress. On the subject of PDA, I agree with a previous poster. Fans are figuring this all out. As much as SH may have set his boundaries in the past, PR may just force this charade to be stepped up several notches. They can’t take the risk of turning off so many emotional immature homophobic fans who dominate the ratings. To think these woman actually pleasure themselves via this OL fantasy. “Oh My”~ George Takei. Anyway. it’ll all be interesting to watch in months to come. I hope I’m wrong.

by Anonymousreply 70March 28, 2018 3:52 PM

*rid

by Anonymousreply 71March 28, 2018 4:14 PM

About the PDA - Sam is an actor. If he has to do a kissing scene, he'll do it.

by Anonymousreply 72March 28, 2018 4:18 PM

[quote] They can’t take the risk of turning off so many emotional immature homophobic fans who dominate the ratings.

Technically, yes Heughan can, but he probably won't. Just to be clear, nobody has to allow themselves to be exploited by an oppressive system. Has everyone forgotten #MeToo?

[quote]Stay in that closet if you must, but get ride of the girl.

Uh, we're not in favor of Heughan "finding a better beard." Nor do we want him to quit the fauxmance so can go back to the showmance. If he must beard, he should keep this implausible one who lives across the pond, dates other guys, sells skin cream to pay the bills and makes it easy to see through the charade.

by Anonymousreply 73March 28, 2018 4:45 PM

He won't ramp up the PDA. Yes, he is an actor but this is his real life. Anyone forcing him to do anything more is a disgusting human. Remember she most likely has a real SO also and may not want the PDA to ramp up either. As long as she is getting her appearances at industry functions and increased sm awareness, she can go do her own thing for the other 360 days out of the year. They really do give off a sibling vibe. To do more would really expose the scam. He would be just fine at functions as a single guy. More focus on just him. I

by Anonymousreply 74March 28, 2018 5:12 PM

They really don’t need to do any PDA to keep this going. It’s going fine as is! The casual fan accepts that Sam’s in a long distance relationship. The new fan googles and boom! Top matches are articles from JJ and PopSugar w/pics of his “gf”. Continue to sprinkle a few articles and pictures here and there and it can keep this going. As can the Shamzies. Look at last weekend. To them since TB posted a vid of her in NY and Sam being radio silent means they spent a quick, quiet weekend together in NY. No need for pics, they write the narrative for them.

As for the shippers, they’re a pretty small contingent and they’re never going to believe so any PDA isn’t going to have any positive effect there. Honestly, I see pretty much see only negative effects on him PR-wise if he steps up the PDA.

by Anonymousreply 75March 28, 2018 5:28 PM

Ironically, when I Google “Sam Heughan gay” the top result is his own tweet, “Boring and homosexual never go together.” Sing it, Sam!

by Anonymousreply 76March 28, 2018 5:48 PM

Well Sam was seen at Glasgow airport last weekend, picking someone up. And someone claimed that he was seen kissing a brunette who wasn’t Caitriona. So no good weekend for the Shamzies lol

by Anonymousreply 77March 28, 2018 6:06 PM

Just get rid of the girl! TB is not necessary. It’s really very simple. R77 Wonder what the shamzies will do with that. “MM now in disguise because of harassment by the peeps who know the truth?” This should be good. Again, get rid of TB, Sam. Easy peasy.....

by Anonymousreply 78March 28, 2018 6:25 PM

R77 that was a fake/made up sighting. The guy in the pic was not Sam.

by Anonymousreply 79March 28, 2018 6:48 PM

R78 They're saying it wasn't him and after looking at the pic I'd have to agree w/them this time. I'm running out so can't search for the pic but maybe someone else can post it. It's blurry and *could* be him since we all take weird pics sometimes but I'd bet anything it wasn't him.

by Anonymousreply 80March 28, 2018 6:49 PM

[quote]God, Gay Sam is just so much cuter than than the character Hetero Sam...

[quote]..never seen Young Alexander. Any good?

I only know that Sam was pinging to high heaven on that set......xd

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by Anonymousreply 81March 28, 2018 7:03 PM

R81 thank you. I agree!! R68 Well that's a good question....who is the average non shipper/non samzie fan...somehow JA seems to know the audience or this charade wouldn't have worked out this "well" so far

by Anonymousreply 82March 28, 2018 7:06 PM

One important thing to consider on the issue of Sam and TB -- Sam's Mom. She is obvs very important to him. She had to take over and make a life for Sam, his brother, and herself after Sam's ditsy father ditched his family back when the kids were toddlers. She did it, and while Sam has never spoken extensively on the matter, that story is out there, and Sam makes reference to her at key moments. Remember in the LA times interview when the subject of his "gf" came up, he referred to his mother; he has often mentioned how sheepish he is about his mom seeing some of the nude love scenes in OL; he has brought her to some minor RC's in the UK; and he has even said how proud she'd be about some of the fan awards he has won. She is the most significant woman in his life.

We don't know if Sam is out to his mom. He probably is after all this time, but whatever the case, a ramped up campaign with TB my force him to have some very uncomfortable conversations with her about what is going on.

by Anonymousreply 83March 28, 2018 7:24 PM

[quote] who is the average non shipper/non samzie fan

I imagine it's like being a casual fan in any fandom. There are lots of things I enjoy that I only know what floats across my timelines. If I have a question about something, I might google it but I'm not going to delve that deeply into it for the most part. I guess that means I believe whatever those PR machines want me to believe and it's probably true for the average Outlander fan as well.

by Anonymousreply 84March 28, 2018 7:25 PM

R83 Thoughtfully said.... Thank you.

R84 I’m not an “average OL fan”. For that I was exiled. That’s ok...

by Anonymousreply 85March 28, 2018 7:43 PM

[quote]Seven years later, Heughan with his "Young Alexander" co-stars, Paul Telfer, Lauren Cohan and Amy Shiels. They all went on to become TV actors

Paul Telfer proposed Sam the day that #lovewon.,,,xd

Sam couldn't stop talking about it and he even posted a GayRainbow Batman (he played Batman on stage).

I miss these good old times, before the PR fuckery and ridiculous bearding started.....

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by Anonymousreply 86March 28, 2018 8:11 PM

I would think Sam’s mother knows his preference.

by Anonymousreply 87March 28, 2018 8:42 PM

R83 Nicely said. I hadn't thought of that. That's makes his bearding even sadder.

R87 I would imagine so too. Which is why I imagine any PDA would be hard for her to see. Acting onscreen is one thing, in real life would be quite another. One more reason all this bearding needs to end. For all their sakes.

by Anonymousreply 88March 28, 2018 8:59 PM

r87 I would think so too lol

by Anonymousreply 89March 28, 2018 9:03 PM

maybe Sam's mother supports His choices

by Anonymousreply 90March 28, 2018 9:04 PM

R90 I don't think anyone is saying she doesn't!

by Anonymousreply 91March 28, 2018 9:09 PM

I owe you a story and predictions.

As most of you know, english is not my mother tongue, bute I am trying to give my best:

BTW, Jennifer Allen of Viewpoint. Where do me want to send my invoice?

8820 Wilshire Boulevard Suite 220 Beverly Hills, CA 90211 310-388-3333

109 W. 27th Street Suite 6B New York, NY 10001 212-671-1790

"It is getting a little bit tricky selling Sam Heughan as straight. There are to many hints showing up when googling his name on SM. We have to work against it.

As our beading did not work in the last months, we have to think about other strategies. I know our financial sources are limited (please check low coast carriers for flights, as you did for the Glasgow flight) we can not afford another investment like the VF red carpet. This was a nightmare to get Sam Heughan flying to LA with all this weather delated flights (I was so happy, he managed it, he came in, otherwise we would never get a new RC time at the VF party).

So. What are your ideas for the next days?

I would suggest a "Happy Easter" meeting. TB can post a stock picture (if not available, we have tons of them) from Scotland with her back and a shadow of an easter egg (very popular in Europe tradition) or a shadow of a rabitt (also very popular) with a tricorn (also very popular conncerning the last OL BTS postings).

We should also think about a picture of them around hs birthday at the 30. April. This is a monday this year. So make sure, he has not to work. And be careful, cause 1. May is Tuesday, a bank holiday of in most of Europe. Travelling tickets might be expensive.

So, whatelse can we do for selling gay Sam Heughan as straight? Kissing her in public? Naming her as his girlfriend on his SM? He will not do that.

It is really tricky to sell him as straight."

Just my thoughts-

by Anonymousreply 92March 28, 2018 9:26 PM

How about a tweet from the beard holding two er, Easter eggs for Cahonas Scotland (JA, please send my check c/o DL.)

by Anonymousreply 93March 28, 2018 9:53 PM

While Sam is trying to break HW, Tobais Menzies has been cast to play Prince Philip in The Crown. That's what success looks like.

by Anonymousreply 94March 28, 2018 10:20 PM

First of all. Sorry for all my misspelings. I am aware of this. Even writing it on my Laptop. Spellcheck is my enemy.

I hope, you got, what I was trying to exp!ain. Sorry for my english!

r93. HAHA. Great idea!

I like private Sam very much, because what he did with his MPC worked for me and I owe him kind of Solidarität for this.

On the other Hand, just for fun:

If we start sending JA fake bills from fake addresses concerning our made up stories?

What will happen?

by Anonymousreply 95March 28, 2018 10:24 PM

r95 I don't understand. Are you saying Sam isn't successful?

by Anonymousreply 96March 28, 2018 10:35 PM

r95 why would you want to cause trouble because of Sam?

by Anonymousreply 97March 28, 2018 10:37 PM

[quote] I don't understand. Are you saying Sam isn't successful?

sorry I meant r94

by Anonymousreply 98March 28, 2018 10:38 PM

R96 I'm not the guy who posted the comment, but no, he isn't successful as an actor imo. Nobody takes his role and acting in OL seriously, no nominations etc. He's just the guy in kilt doing sex scenes.

by Anonymousreply 99March 28, 2018 10:45 PM

I think his beard contract is designed for no PDA, a certain level of deniability, and aimed at the casual fan. I'd be surprised if his family didn't know he's gay, and also about the moderate bearding. The fact that she's 5000 miles away is a feature, not a bug, for him even though it makes the charade more obvious.

I think it's true that while he was one of the big leads at first, the show has helped Menzies and Balfe in terms of acting rep, whereas he's been mostly marketed as the hunk in the kilt. Both by Starz and by his own PR. Maybe he's still hoping for a hunky lead role in HW, though he hasn't much time if so. I think many of us here wish he would follow Menzies into the kind of roles more typically offered in British TV and theatre. Smaller, more quirky, interesting characters, and also a world more comfortable with the actors being openly gay.

by Anonymousreply 100March 28, 2018 11:12 PM

r94. As i like Sam as an actor. You are right as Tobias is the better actor whith a wider range he is able to play.

So stepping on very thin ice now: Sam really inhabited the Jamie.Fraser in S1 of OL, he delivered his character very well .

Later on, well, he is physically not the war proofed, still attraktive aged scottish warrior. He is no Sean Bean or Daniel Craig.

He is just the tall gay guy, who works out in the gym five days a week and worked hard for his muscles. But, you never will get a fullblood racing horse from a cold blood working horse. and vice versa.

Sam Hseughan has found his niche as an actor because Gabaldon wrote those books. Otherwhise he would have quitting acting and learned to be a cook (quoting himsellf)

by Anonymousreply 101March 28, 2018 11:23 PM

On a related note if not directly on topic: Does Gay Hollywood Have Room for Queer Kids? - op-Ed in today's NYTimes, discussing masculine versus femme queer characters.

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by Anonymousreply 102March 28, 2018 11:28 PM

r100. Great, thoughtfull post. Thanks.

by Anonymousreply 103March 29, 2018 12:07 AM

R94 & R101 Acting is art and the perception of it is subjective. I think SH did an amazing job with S1 and he was even better at the beginning of S3. If anyone has read the books, it is obvious that the story is adapted drastically, too much, for TV and has become the "Claire Show". SH had very little to work with due to the "Claire Show" adaptation and he did an excellent job with what he had. The books portray a solid 50/50 split between the stories of J&C. The show fails in this. Congrats to Tobias, but remember that success in HW is a crapshoot and it doesn't matter how many awards you get or how talented you are. It's easily 10% talent and the other 90% is luck. HW is a wicked place. SH definitely found his niche in Outlander. He is the perfect "Jaime". Congrats to him. Aside from all the PR BS, which I believe stifles his talent, I hope Sam doesn't give up too quickly. He's smart though. He's already $diversifying$ outside the Outlander world. Good for him. Now, if he'd just get rid of the fake GF. PS Men in kilts make me quiver... Yummy....

by Anonymousreply 104March 29, 2018 3:28 AM

r104. Could not agree more!! The second half of S3 became particularly irritating with the Super Claire / Sidekick Jamie show and I strongly suspect that S4 may be even worse (and this only encourages CB in her sometimes quite nasty behaviour toward SH). The deleted scenes of S3 had some fine acting by Sam, yet it all ended up on the editing floor thanks to RDM - at least some of it is on the DVD. One day your beautiful gay star will shine, Sam. Hang in there (and ditch the beard).

by Anonymousreply 105March 29, 2018 3:58 AM

Excellent NYT OpEd piece, R102. Thanks for finding it.

[quote]For over a decade, the unspoken rule of gay cinema and television has been that gay men can be sexy protagonists — as long as they are masculine gay men. Feminine or gender-nonconforming gay men, on the other hand, are desexualized comedic relief. Masculine gay men are central characters, understood as attractive, powerful, interesting and dynamic. Feminine gay men, gender-nonconforming folks and trans people are, at best, guest stars, denied real plots, romantic story lines or central positions in the story.

[quote]Worse, across mainstream movies and television, gay protagonists often gain their status as protagonists and palatability by distancing themselves from femininity. Take “Will & Grace”: Will Truman is acceptable in part because he is not Jack McFarland. Or “Queer as Folk”: Brian Kinney is acceptable in part because he is not Emmett Honeycutt. Or even the reboot of “Queer Eye”: Antoni Porowski and Karamo Brown are the heartthrobs in part because they’re more masculine than Jonathan Van Ness.

[quote]If “Love, Simon” didn’t follow this trope outright, it certainly flirted with it. Early on, the film is careful to establish all of the ways that Simon is not that kind of gay.

[quote]A message that gay young people receive throughout our adolescence is that you need to be the “right type of gay” — masculine, not flamboyant, a man’s man — to be respected, to be affirmed by your family or to be romantically desirable. These messages hurt. They sting. They linger. And they don’t end with adolescence, evidenced by the many online dating profiles proclaiming “no fats, no femmes.”

[quote]I spent the entire movie waiting for Simon and Ethan to reconcile, to have a moment where Simon owned up to being embarrassed to be around someone as feminine as Ethan. I kept waiting for the scene when Simon said something like: “I’m sorry. I was embarrassed by you because I was working on myself. I struggled to affirm your femininity because I was acting from a place of personal shame. Your courage has paved the way for my life to be easier, and I wish I would’ve stood up for you.” But it never happened.

[quote]It’s important to acknowledge that — in 2018, with a $17 million budget — “Love, Simon” is trailblazing, that for L.G.B.T. teenagers, it is the only thing like it out there. But it’s equally important to acknowledge that the “Love, Simon” team reiterated the trope of the queenly, femme supporting character with no real plot. As femme gay men, gender-nonconforming people, and trans folks, we too deserve better than to be caricatured by Hollywood.

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by Anonymousreply 106March 29, 2018 5:51 AM

R106 good article, thanks for posting

by Anonymousreply 107March 29, 2018 7:26 AM

R96 thank you for the prediction. I'm curious to see if you are going to be right, you seem to sense what JA works like.

I think Sam is talented but indeed he's let his PR and Starz market him like a hunk or just eye candy, he is handsome and hot no doubt but I do believe what he actually wants is some credits for his skills and talents. I think there's a struggle here between ego and finding fulfillment....he likes the attention, he plays games on social media but he also wants to be acknowledged as a serious actor in the end I believe. Menzies is a great actor but not a hunk and is definitely picked for rolls because of his talent. He can afford it to stay out of social media etc. Can't even be marketed as a hunk. Sam has the looks now let's hope he can show the world he has the talent too.

by Anonymousreply 108March 29, 2018 7:28 AM

Every time Sam turns up anywhere with the beard, he just makes it more difficult for anyone to take him seriously as actor and also as a person. It’s like he scrapped the bottom of the barrel to find a beard/“GF”. Not to mention that other potential employers would have to put up with her trolling their fandoms as she’s so thirsty for attention. Who would want that kind of baggage? The beard makes Sam far less appealing on all levels and not amount of “PR” (including promoting a dodgy looking charity with gives starving children cameras instead of food!) is ever going to make her seem more than what she is - a D-list spoilt princess with Daddy issues. Sam needs to ditch the beard ASAP. No one has a clue who Tobias Menzies is dating and the focus instead is on his acting. And the great roles keep coming for him!

by Anonymousreply 109March 29, 2018 8:25 AM

While Sam was playing attention seeking games on SM, Tobias was honing his craft. British TV has quality programming and Tobias has served his time in many of them learning and growing as an actor which led to parts in juggernaut shows like Game of Thrones and now the crown. This is a more realistic career path for Sam. He’s getting a bit long in the tooth for Hollywood and the VF red carpet showed, he’s not that big a name. His acting as been a bit bumpy in Outlander, in parts excellent, particularly S1, but RDM’s vision for the show is more Claire centric and some of his best moments didn’t make the final cut. His sexuality wouldn’t be as big an issue for the more accepting British tv and theatrical societies. He does need to drop the beard, as a person she’s just not likeable. He also needs to stop the ridiculous and insulting insinuation of a showmance continuing. He’s media savvy and knows what he’s doing posting pancakes, ‘we’re together’ etc., it may be to keep the shippers on board, but that ship sunk. Go solo. Take a trusted friend like Marina, his mother, brother, agent.

by Anonymousreply 110March 29, 2018 9:01 AM

r108 r109 r110. Great, thoughtful and interesting posts. And interesting concerning the use of SM. You all are absolutetly right and brought it to the point.

by Anonymousreply 111March 29, 2018 9:38 AM

Sam is running a marathon on April 29th, so another Scottish shitshow for his birthday?

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by Anonymousreply 112March 29, 2018 11:56 AM

Let's hope it's just a marathon for charity and nothing more....maybe his brother will join him(good case scenario).....

by Anonymousreply 113March 29, 2018 1:34 PM

Interested in your opinion of the cross dresser grandson on Roxanne. IMO they make fun of it and ignore it at the same time. It made me feel sorry for the young actor having to play the clown. Roxanne did warn his classmates to not bully him. It did very little to forward the cause. Trump congratulated Roxanne on the ratings. That alone made me throw up in my mouth. IMO

by Anonymousreply 114March 29, 2018 3:24 PM

I'm crying like a baby at Sam's latest post on IG. I might dislike his bearding, but I admire his charity work.

by Anonymousreply 115March 29, 2018 6:31 PM

This isn’t a fan club tumblr blog

by Anonymousreply 116March 29, 2018 7:12 PM

[quote]"Sam is running a marathon on April 29th, so another Scottish shitshow for his birthday?"

Sam's publicist, Jennifer Allen, has used the same PR fuckery before with other of her clients, Henry Cavill.

Closeted actor+blonde beard being seen together at a charity run:

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by Anonymousreply 117March 29, 2018 7:34 PM

R117 Ffs, same narrative, right?

by Anonymousreply 118March 29, 2018 7:43 PM

r116. Yes. And thanks.

by Anonymousreply 119March 29, 2018 7:44 PM

Doubtful that Sam’s blonde beard will run in a marathon with him.

by Anonymousreply 120March 29, 2018 7:49 PM

R120 Right? He can't compromise his charity work, can he?

by Anonymousreply 121March 29, 2018 7:51 PM

r115. Sorry wrong place here for you here. r117 and r118. We know.

by Anonymousreply 122March 29, 2018 7:52 PM

r120. Nonsense.

by Anonymousreply 123March 29, 2018 7:59 PM

From the link at R117. Sounds familiar, right?

[quote]"Henry Cavill stepped out with Tara King to take part in a charity run on the British isle of Jersey, where he grew up — and they still looked very much the couple indeed. The 33-year-old actor and 19-year-old student were all smiles as they participated in the Durrell Wildlife Challenge, a 13-kilometer race that raises funds for a conservation trust Cavill actively supports."

Tara was also Henry's on-off 'girlfriend'. I mean, beard.....xd

by Anonymousreply 124March 29, 2018 8:01 PM

R124 How long did Henry have a beard? We can use that as a clue. JA isn't changing her strategy.

by Anonymousreply 125March 29, 2018 8:05 PM

Sam isn't tarnishing his charity with the beard. He has had ample opportunities to involve her and hasn't. The difference also is nobody disliked Henry's beard. There is ample disdain for Sam's beard floating around out there. He risks people withdrawing from his other endeavors if he does that. Different from Henry's situation. Sam's beard trolls his fans and is nasty.

by Anonymousreply 126March 29, 2018 8:35 PM

TB is supposed to running that marathon with him. Whatever. This shit show is totally insane. I had no idea that Superman was closeted by JA too. Disgusting.... And that girl was only 19! They're whoring these young girls out! HW is filthy.....

Sam, FFS! Get out! You're better then this.

by Anonymousreply 127March 29, 2018 9:34 PM

Where is it publicized that the beard is running with him in a marathon? Tumblr? I haven’t seen it anywhere but alluded to on a post there.

by Anonymousreply 128March 29, 2018 9:39 PM

Any of you ever write hate letters to JA and tell her we're onto your fuckery and it needs to stop? Power in numbers...

by Anonymousreply 129March 29, 2018 9:39 PM

I see the tumblr transformation has completed. r129 you're kidding right? what are you 10?

by Anonymousreply 130March 29, 2018 9:45 PM

r128. Häh? (Southgerman dialect for like "what the hell")

This is how fake news come from.

Fact: SH trains for the Stirling. Marathon. He posted that on his SM. Nothing else happened .

by Anonymousreply 131March 29, 2018 10:07 PM

TB is in NYC IG story taken at Kaffe 1668 South, Tribecca area.

by Anonymousreply 132March 29, 2018 10:59 PM

R132 and??? Maybe she's headed to Scotland via stock photos... OR the circus is coming to town again..... R127 I read she running that marathon with Sam too. I was lurking on FaceBook.... Could have been pulled from Tumblr. Didn't see it there though...

by Anonymousreply 133March 30, 2018 1:21 AM

R133, really?????

As usual, PurvScilla has made up that rumor and has posted it in tumblr. She keeps lying and changing the PR narrative since MM is staying in US.

[quote] p-redux: "The marathon is the day before Sam’s birthday. Mackenzie has spent his last two birthdays with him. I wouldn’t be surprised if she joined him for his birthday again this year and possibly even did the marathon with him, since she’s a runner too. "

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by Anonymousreply 134March 30, 2018 1:42 AM

GAY Sam for the shamzies......

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by Anonymousreply 135March 30, 2018 1:59 AM

More GAY Sam.....;)

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by Anonymousreply 136March 30, 2018 2:09 AM

Related: The creator of The Chi recently sat down with The Undefeated and spoke about how not acknowledging one’s sexuality doesn’t just stunt your personal growth but also your ability to create as an artist.

[quote]“I think your art is stunted when you’re trying to pretend to be something you aren’t,” the 33-year-old said. “You can’t be as happy. If I was in the closet, I would not be a happy camper. I just wouldn’t be. I’m a real b-tch. I’m a truth-teller. I can’t sit here and act like I don’t have a phenomenal woman at home, with an engagement ring on her finger that I bought as a token of my love.”

[quote]I see these cats all the time, out and about, they hug me and say, ‘I’m so proud of you. You’re out! You’re doing it!’ And I want to look at them and go, ‘Why aren’t you?’ Why do I have to be out here on the diving board by myself?’”

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by Anonymousreply 137March 30, 2018 5:56 AM

I really like something our beloved Shamzie Queen has on her tumblr. CO is complaining, when googling Sam Heughan DL shows up first.

Great! Ways to go. Keep on posting.

by Anonymousreply 138March 30, 2018 7:16 AM

R138 lolololol Truth hurts :D

by Anonymousreply 139March 30, 2018 9:02 AM

r138 why? are you purposely trying to make it bad for Sam? what exactly are you trying to accomplish? are you trying to force Sam to do what you want?

by Anonymousreply 140March 30, 2018 1:52 PM

This guy looks like the (also)closeted pornstar from Sean Cody named Sean.

by Anonymousreply 141March 30, 2018 2:18 PM

r140. This is a gay Website, as you probably have knowledged.

Means, that we are posting about gay Sam Heughan. If you do not like the fact, that he is gay, do not read or post here. Easy, isn't it?

by Anonymousreply 142March 30, 2018 2:40 PM

r142 what are you talking about? I know what site this is and I know what this thread about. It is not about sending hate letters or trying to get Sam to do what people here want him to do, or to get him in trouble, or to try and show people that you know more than anyone else. It is to talk about him, that's all.

by Anonymousreply 143March 30, 2018 3:15 PM

[quore]are you purposely trying to make it bad for Sam?

Typical homophobic troll, assuming it's bad to be a gay man. Take your wagging finger and fuck off.

by Anonymousreply 144March 30, 2018 4:33 PM

[quote]I really like something our beloved Shamzie Queen has on her tumblr. CO is complaining, when googling Sam Heughan DL shows up first.

Folks, your Google search results are a combination of your own search frequency as well as others. I'm sure the CAPS-LOCK queen spends a lot of time lurking or trolling here so no surprise it's at the top of her list. She just busted herself.

by Anonymousreply 145March 30, 2018 4:37 PM

Soooooo.........what's the PR plan for this weekend? Any ideas? One is in NYC taking her lovely sentimental photos again and the other is pissed because some vacation rental company screwed him. (eyes rolling)

by Anonymousreply 146March 30, 2018 4:41 PM

[quote]Yvonne Villarreal (LA Times): Last show you binge-watched?

[quote]Heughan: Queer Eye for the Straight Guy. Oh, it's soon good!

Good news for Sam...

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by Anonymousreply 147March 30, 2018 5:11 PM

Sam's star has lost it's glimmer. He again is coming in second place for the E's Alpha Male Madness contest. The two previous year he won easily. It seems the crazy fan voters have lost their interest. Is this a bell weather for disappointment in Sam's personal love life or his gayness shining through? Maybe it is the disappointment of Season 2 an 3.IMO it is a combination. Gone too soon.

by Anonymousreply 148March 30, 2018 5:11 PM

No, 148, what it actually means is that other fandoms have got a handle on what is happening and are fighting back. Many have never heard of Outlander but they have heard of The 100. So they support them. Do not write Sam off too soon!!

by Anonymousreply 149March 30, 2018 5:18 PM

I'm sure the fans were voting for 'Jamie,' not Sam, originally. What has he been given to work with, in recent seasons? The storyline has become laughable.

by Anonymousreply 150March 30, 2018 5:21 PM

R148 R149 R150 I agree with all of you. OL has turned the entire production into the "Claire/Cait Show". The books are easily an even split in character development and storyline. The show refuses this though. Sam had some really great work in all seasons and they ended up on the cutting room floor. Why? Because he's gay and everyone knows it and can't admit it? Not even he himself because they told him not to? This has hurt SH's visibility and craft tremendously. It's being done intentionally because his true sexuality will not sell this show. The guy hasn't been given shit to work with. He's got what it takes. It is his job, though, to "get out" and let himself shine the way he's meant to. OL isn't interested in doing that for him. For fuck sake, he was the first lead chosen for this shit-show and CB wouldn't be where she is today if it weren't for SH. She succeeded in that screen test because of Sam. This ridiculousness isn't ending until the contract guidelines have been met. That may be years.

by Anonymousreply 151March 30, 2018 6:06 PM

this thread has become toxic. I wish you would stop reading it.

by Anonymousreply 152March 30, 2018 6:19 PM

I believe the best thing for Sam is if the whole show finishes. I only wish the best for him and I think the show is now hampering his future career. Some fans do not consider this - all they want is for this embarrassing story to continue - and to hell with anyone's future prospects. I like Outlander (with reservations) but I like to think I see it for what it is. Given the right material Sam is an actor of great intuitiveness and emotional intelligence - he does not benefit from being sidelined and under-used or under-valued.

by Anonymousreply 153March 30, 2018 6:44 PM

R152 is our "there's so much negativity and criticism" troll from the previous thread. Either be the change you want to see in the world or piss off, you hypocritical twat. Go clutch your pearls with the other tumblrinas and let the adults talk.

by Anonymousreply 154March 30, 2018 6:46 PM

No matter what I think of the show, it gave Sam a career. He was going to quit acting at all and then OL happened. He's not stupid, he knows he's lucky. There are many talented actors, who are unemployed and broke. He has two more years of his contract and he'll be stupid not to take advantage of OL fandom, cons, MPC etc. It's all business.

by Anonymousreply 155March 30, 2018 6:54 PM

Thank you R153 & R155 Totally agree. However, business or not, the "girlfriend experience" needs to go away. It just doesn't work...

by Anonymousreply 156March 30, 2018 7:45 PM

Is the beard in NYC?Her Instagram narrative seemed to imply it. Sam just posted a piece slamming One Fine Stay complaining about poor service etc. Was he with TB in NYCif that's the case is it for real Don't scream at me I really don't know. Seems like it would be difficult with the tight shooting schedule they have?

by Anonymousreply 157March 30, 2018 8:01 PM

I'd think he'd have some place in LA....he seems to travel there more often than to NY. I don't think it ever had anything to do with bottle blondie.

by Anonymousreply 158March 30, 2018 8:10 PM

One Fine Stay is in London,Paris, Rome ,LA. I would surmise that he might be bitching about LA seeing he was there for a short time not long ago. Just guessing.

by Anonymousreply 159March 30, 2018 8:15 PM

R157 Not screaming. Same thought crossed my mind. PR could be planning a romantic getaway. They need to step it up. The closet is imploding. The SHAMSIES are going to love this. Stay tuned....

by Anonymousreply 160March 30, 2018 8:43 PM

The drivers are going to be in NYC next weekend for the Tartan Day Parade so I wouldn’t be surprised if there isn’t something planned for him there.

by Anonymousreply 161March 30, 2018 8:46 PM

R161 "drivers"??? Who are they?

by Anonymousreply 162March 30, 2018 9:11 PM

Fantastic! A Tartan Day Parade intermingled with the SHAMSIE Circus... Oh boy! Redic!

by Anonymousreply 163March 30, 2018 9:13 PM

The Outlander Drivers. They marched in the parade in 2016 when Sam was Grand Marshall and they are marching again this year. Sam’s driver is getting his kilt ready now.

by Anonymousreply 164March 30, 2018 9:15 PM

[quote]They need to step it up.

Why???? Do you work for Jennifer Allen? lol R133/R160, you always come to DL to write the same type of comments, spreading fake rumors about fake pregnancies, about TB running the marathon, about imaginary future PDAs...

And it's SHAMzies, not Shamsies.

by Anonymousreply 165March 30, 2018 9:27 PM

He wasn't in NYC with TB. Give it a rest shamzies. Those drivers are a freak show onto themselves, begging OL fans to pay their way to NYC. What self-respecting person would feel the need to get close to the drivers of actors and fork their money over.

by Anonymousreply 166March 30, 2018 9:30 PM

Sam has been nominated for a Scottish Style Award and I believe it's this weekend at the Kelvingrove. I expect he will attend hopefully he will take his mum.

by Anonymousreply 167March 30, 2018 9:34 PM

Hey guys. Back to our topic please..

All the other stuff, including drivers to NYC will please discusse elsewhere.

BUT. NOT. HERE!

by Anonymousreply 168March 30, 2018 10:49 PM

R168 Fine. Couldn't agree more. Sam's gay. Enough said. Why continue.

by Anonymousreply 169March 30, 2018 10:58 PM

Scottish people don't use the word "tardy". You'd get a bloody hiding in Glasgow saying "tardy". Sorry, not wanting to feed the shamzies, Just sayin

by Anonymousreply 170March 30, 2018 11:04 PM

R170 what are you talking about? What’s tardy: just wondering.

by Anonymousreply 171March 30, 2018 11:11 PM

R170 sorry figured it out , Sam posting some complaint on his SM. What a little bitch to go on like that on his public SM.

by Anonymousreply 172March 30, 2018 11:46 PM

For Sam, bearding is easy. He and the beard don't even need to stay in the same continent or spend time together.

One intentional like from the beard, an 'anon' sent -of course- to Purv....and she will make up the rest of the story and the shamzies will fall for it, hook , line and sinker.

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by Anonymousreply 173March 31, 2018 1:01 AM

R173 This is so insanely stupid. FFS, Sam! Why?

by Anonymousreply 174March 31, 2018 1:55 AM

[quote]Sam posting some complaint on his SM. What a little bitch to go on like that on his public SM.

Yeah, WTF? Flexing his SM muscle and tanking their business because he feels powerless everywhere else in his life? That shit belongs on TripAdvisor.

by Anonymousreply 175March 31, 2018 2:05 AM

R174 & R175 Agreed... What a bitch! He's playing this game as much as TB and the rest. He used that little hotel reservation fiasco to play the game. What a disappointment. Hey Sam, Karma's a bitch when you are and you, of all actors, cannot afford to have her visit your little playhouse. She's nasty. Grow the fuck up. You're almost 38. Act like it.

by Anonymousreply 176March 31, 2018 2:09 AM

I've noticed that Sam hasn't congratulated Tobias. This is so not him.....

by Anonymousreply 177March 31, 2018 3:46 AM

“Lovely Sam” is in the sunken place.

by Anonymousreply 178March 31, 2018 3:56 AM

Poor Sammy didn't get his way and stomped his foot like a 5-year-old little bitch. You're almost 38, sweet-cheeks. Grow the hell up. Maybe you and TB are meant for each other after all.....even though you play for the other team and everybody fucking knows it. Hope you're happy. Hasta, baby. SMH

by Anonymousreply 179March 31, 2018 4:16 AM

About the ridiculous fanfic that the delusional shamzies are writing (proposal, wedding...... Who do they think they're fooling??? He can't stand being next to the beard. Or pose with her, lol

[quote]TB wants people to believe she was involved in it. Not buying he would be so upset on her behalf when they had to photoshop her in the vanity fair picture and he ignored her ass at the party.

[quote]Yeah, WTF? Flexing his SM muscle and tanking their business because he feels powerless everywhere else in his life?

BINGO,

by Anonymousreply 180March 31, 2018 4:56 AM

R179, calm the fuck down. One drama kween is enough.

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by Anonymousreply 181March 31, 2018 6:03 AM

Whatever respect I had for him is gone. He tweets like a child, and does not have the decency to congratulate his former co-star. As for TB, he made his bed, it ain't with her, but with the Benjamin's...pun intended. Now I just look at him on mute, cuz he s hot..no matter what..

by Anonymousreply 182March 31, 2018 10:35 AM

To be honest I don't think it was so strange that Sam complained about a hotel(or whatever is was). He apparantly has filed complaints the regular way with nu succes it seems. What does suck is TB and him are using it as an innuendo again.....

Maybe Sam called Tobias of sent him a text to congratulate him....we don't know that

by Anonymousreply 183March 31, 2018 12:06 PM

Sam’s not one to complain on Twitter. Yes he advertises products, Barbour etc., but doesn’t use his fame to receive preferential treatment, I don’t remember his ever giving a bad review on tw. He seems to have complained directly to the company privately and basically was butting his head off a brick wall. Whatever the weekend was, it was important enough to him that the poor quality of the rental and lack of communication from the company involved angered him enough to complain publicly. God knows we’ve all been in that position at least once, but didn’t have the followers to make a difference!

by Anonymousreply 184March 31, 2018 12:38 PM

Maybe it was the VF weekend.... it takes some time for complaints to be processed sometimes. Why would he have gone back to the US again a week later.....

Yes of course we've all been there, I agree with you that we don't because we know that tweeting a complaint is no use but when you're treated badly you can't stand up for yourself via twitter because you do have many followers? and maybe don't know what else to do? I would try to be heard if I could and it feels like he is doing that.The bearding however......

by Anonymousreply 185March 31, 2018 1:23 PM

He is a drama queen with a troll for a beard.

by Anonymousreply 186March 31, 2018 1:24 PM

there isn't a single person here that hasn't been frustrated by some company and Wish they had the means to come back at them. Every single person here & elsewhere would have done the same thing as Sam if they had the opportunity to do so.

by Anonymousreply 187March 31, 2018 2:16 PM

Uh, no, Church Lady @ R187, some of us are actually not into revenge. Heughan isn't just lodging a complaint; he's ensuring that the business loses thousands of customers.

by Anonymousreply 188March 31, 2018 3:00 PM

Typical Moon in Scorpio move.

by Anonymousreply 189March 31, 2018 3:07 PM

Now we know that R187 thinks either vengeance is normal or anything Heughan does is above question. In other words, typical OL fantard.

by Anonymousreply 190March 31, 2018 3:18 PM

I’ve shelled out for private rentals, they’re not cheap. I’d use any means at my disposal (legal of course) to get my money back if I’d been screwed. And if you’re altruistic, it’s warning other customers that a company’s advertising and claims might not be reliable or they have safety issues. Sam has greater reach than most but basically he’s still a customer who paid for a product or service that was less than advertised. I really don’t think he posted for revenge.

by Anonymousreply 191March 31, 2018 3:41 PM

He has nearly half a million followers worldwide, which is considerable clout in the marketplace and the reason he gets sponsors who pay him a lot to shill their products on SM. Don't tell me he doesn't know that he could potentially put that company out of business if his followers "Avoid!" and tell their friends.

by Anonymousreply 192March 31, 2018 3:51 PM

It's a slippery slope. When you draw negative attention to someone or something else, be prepared for someone to do it to you. Sam is only making a stink because he doesn't feel he was treated as he should have been. Fair enough, but there are a lot more important issues to express your righteous indignation about. Sam does seem to have changed, and may have bought into the hype around him. That's a dangerous thing because there is always someone else ready -- and more capable -- to take your place. He is still a big fish in a relatively small bond hoping to cash in on more dollars. His acting is uneven, and sometimes cringe-worthy. There's a reason he didn't get cast in GOT after seven auditions. Producers and casting agents are already well aware of who he is -- it's their business to know everyone and be on the lookout for great talent. Normally, if you auditioned one, two, maybe three times for a show/producer/director and they like you, they say, 'Oh, remember SH. He wasn't right for part X, but he'd be good as Y, and you are offered the part without further auditions. Auditioning seven times is a sign that they feel 'meh' about you and are polite enough not to say, 'No, we don't want to see him again.' Sure, Sam landed a supporting part in TSWDM, but it's affiliated with OL. Sam is bad in When the Starlight Ends -- I don't care how many OL fraus say he's great. And that is out there for decision-makers to see.

by Anonymousreply 193March 31, 2018 4:17 PM

People are bitching on TW all the time. What's the big deal? Steven Cree's favourite target is British Airways. And Sam barely has any negative posts, he's the ultimate "yes man".

by Anonymousreply 194March 31, 2018 4:25 PM

It was a very posh pansy complaint, about something the average person will never have to experience,which I guess adds more fuel to your gay Sam theory.Lovely Sam was his nickname in college according to one of his classmates. His complaint reminds me of Colin Firth and Hugh Grant bitch slapping in Bridget Jones Diary. This guy is not Bond material. He is out of the closet.

by Anonymousreply 195March 31, 2018 5:05 PM

This is just all so stupid... R181 Where is all this universe did you find that?! GAWD help him.... It may be too late.

by Anonymousreply 196March 31, 2018 5:25 PM

[quote]He is a drama queen with a troll for a beard.

That sums it all. An obvious GAY closeted actor who is a drama queen, with a troll as a beard.

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by Anonymousreply 197March 31, 2018 6:16 PM

agree R197

by Anonymousreply 198March 31, 2018 6:24 PM

I wouldn't be surprised if that rental house actually paid Sam to diss them. Now 400k more people know they actually exist. Don't believe what you see on SM.

by Anonymousreply 199March 31, 2018 6:30 PM

[quote]I wouldn't be surprised if that rental house actually paid Sam to diss them.

Uh, no. Not with those details.

by Anonymousreply 200March 31, 2018 6:41 PM

R194 He's the ultimate "yes man". He even said couple of times he had to learn from Caitriona to say "no". I wonder if he got his beard by constantly saying "yes".

by Anonymousreply 201March 31, 2018 7:02 PM

That's passive aggressive behavior to say "yes" to someone's face because you can't deal with direct conflict and then bitch about it later behind their back, or do something vengeful to undermine them.

by Anonymousreply 202March 31, 2018 7:25 PM

I see we have now progressed to doing psychiatric evaluations lol

by Anonymousreply 203March 31, 2018 7:41 PM

It's a well-known behavior that anyone can observe, R203.

by Anonymousreply 204March 31, 2018 7:46 PM

I thought this sight was for 'respecting' Sam Heughan, a gay man whom you wish would come out of the closet. But this last batch of replies has been downright mean, petty, and so hurtful to Sam if he were to see them. He is a very decent guy who is under huge pressure from every corner at the moment. He's exhausted from travels, working 12-16 hour days, supporting charities, running marathons. Well loved by virtually everyone he knows. And here you are, his gay brothers who are actually ADVOCATING for his demise. How does it serve you and the community to trash him? Why would Sam want to come out of the closet and be faced with you lot?

by Anonymousreply 205March 31, 2018 7:56 PM

We're not obsequious, fawning stans who either "love him or hate him," R205. We're a little bit bitchy, yeah, but that's not unusual for discussions, here. Just because someone's gay doesn't give them a pass within the gay community to behave badly and we'll say so. Now go back to tumblr and clutch your pearls with the other slobbering fantards who feel sorry for "poor, exhausted" Sam.

by Anonymousreply 206March 31, 2018 8:08 PM

Related: Ricky Martin, the Peurto Rican singer and actor who came out in 2010 after years of hiding his sexuality, now says, in hindsight, being in the closet was a complete 'waste of energy'.

[quote]Martin recently played late-designer Gianni Versace's partner Antonio D'Amico in true crime anthology series The Assassination of Gianni Versace, which airs on FX – and now BBC Two. He said his own experience of being a closeted gay man in the public eye fed into his performance in the 90s-set show, which touches on the issue of homophobia.

[quote]"I was a closeted gay man who was making my partners hide," he explains. "I had relationships with other men who were in the closet and I had other relationships with men who were not in the closet but because of me went back into the closet - and so I'm reliving everything I did."

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by Anonymousreply 207March 31, 2018 8:09 PM

At the risk of having a body part bitten off, I feel compelled to observe that after a bazillion embarrassing fails, SH can't even summon up the gumption to change out the people who do his RC hair and "style" him! What chance does he have to do or say anything about the bearding: the basic fact of it; the choice of a disastrous beard; or her vile behavior?

by Anonymousreply 208March 31, 2018 8:10 PM

Maybe Heughan's approach needs to be revisited.

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by Anonymousreply 209March 31, 2018 8:15 PM

If Sam is with TB in NYC or whereever wouldn't his buddies from JJ be photoing him to jam the TB deal home? Isn't that what this farce is all about?

by Anonymousreply 210March 31, 2018 8:16 PM

R205 I couldn't agree more, but this is DL and it's nasty. If there is shit to be called out, it will be called out. No one is immune. No one can prove SH's motives about anything, but his PR charade is real and people are shit-sick of it. Nothing will change in HW if the blatant homophobia is allowed to flourish, which it is.

R206 Can you please come up with another line to crush anyone you presume to be a "Tumblr fantard"? Those pearls are stale.

R207 GAWD that man is sexy....and he became sexier when he walked out of the closet. He's happy as hell too... Good for Ricky!

R210 Don't you know? It's real love. They need privacy. (Sarcasm! Don't lose your shit R206.)

by Anonymousreply 211March 31, 2018 8:21 PM

[quote][R206] Can you please come up with another line to crush anyone you presume to be a "Tumblr fantard"? Those pearls are stale.

I'm always open to suggestions, R211.

by Anonymousreply 212March 31, 2018 8:26 PM

when I first started reading this thread way back it wasn't nasty. A few trolls decided it was their thread and they became nasty. Then the shippers arrived and that made it even nastier. So now you have a combination of trolls and shippers and those that just wanted to discuss Sam's gayness and they kind of got pushed aside.

by Anonymousreply 213March 31, 2018 8:28 PM

Maybe the Death of his Father explains Sam's weird Social Media Behavior?

by Anonymousreply 214March 31, 2018 8:39 PM

On Sam's Twitter...

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by Anonymousreply 215March 31, 2018 8:43 PM

R215 His father died years ago, that reply was towards the fan. Many people who lost/are losing relatives commented.

by Anonymousreply 216March 31, 2018 8:47 PM

Okay, then I misunderstood it, I'm sorry.

by Anonymousreply 217March 31, 2018 8:54 PM

R212 Working on it...

by Anonymousreply 218March 31, 2018 8:56 PM

The last 24 hours has been the darkest and nastiest on this thread,,,,,,in forever or ever for that matter. Is it justified? Who knows, but one thing is for sure and that is HW needs to be exposed for the homophobic monster it is. It is a fucking shame SH is swimming in this shit. They are using him like a used up toothbrush on a filthy toilet bowl. FFS, Sam. Why did you sign up for this? Please, darling, cut the crap and get out. You're better than this. Is OL that golden? You usually blow rainbows out of your ass like a unicorn, which is a beautiful part of you, but your twitter post yesterday says something else. What is the deal?! That wasn't you. You're not a bitch and DL knows its bitches...

by Anonymousreply 219March 31, 2018 9:15 PM

R219 thank you. I wholeheartedly agree.

by Anonymousreply 220March 31, 2018 9:19 PM

Oh, please spare us the finger-wagging, peal-clutching and hen clucking at us. Heughan is doing just fine in his high-paying day job and side businesses and has the adulation of thousands. Give us a break and quit the pity party.

by Anonymousreply 221March 31, 2018 9:39 PM

[quote]The last 24 hours has been the darkest and nastiest on this thread,,,,,,in forever or ever for that matter.

It's the end times! Armageddon is here. Prepare thyself!

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by Anonymousreply 222March 31, 2018 9:57 PM

Related: Another good article calling out the oppressive HW closet and how it's worse for gay men than lesbians...

This old-school thinking is keeping a lot of Tinseltown publicists, flacks and shills employed but it's simply not true of younger, more sexually fluid "non-binary" audiences.

[quote]A top-level talent manager who spoke on condition of anonymity put it in blunter terms. “It’s all about perception. They want to believe that the lead guy is fucking the lead woman,” he said. “If a studio is backing a film with a ton of money … they want everyone who is buying tickets to believe that that’s in fact the case. Sadly, if we know that in real life the lead guy is screwing around with another guy, the fear is that it may hurt ticket sales.”

[quote]In that case, the solution may be to write fewer heterosexual romances altogether — which might not be a bad thing for actresses, straight or gay, as Hollywood attempts to reckon with its history of sexualizing women. It might lead to better movies, too.

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by Anonymousreply 223March 31, 2018 10:13 PM

This documentary turned up in my youtube feed...Gay in Hollywood: The Last Taboo. Probably been posted here many times before. It's from 2009. But I'd never seen it before and it had some interesting history in it too.

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by Anonymousreply 224March 31, 2018 10:45 PM

[quote]When Sam used to take Luke Neal to the parties.Two couples: Cait and her bf Tony; Sam and Luke:

On these days, two years ago -2 years anniversary ;)- Sam was travelling around the world with Luke:

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by Anonymousreply 225March 31, 2018 10:52 PM

On these days, two years ago, Sam brought Luke to Outlanders events and private parties.

Burberry party NYC:

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by Anonymousreply 226March 31, 2018 10:54 PM

Two years ago, Luke -and Sam- atTV Guide party, LA:

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by Anonymousreply 227March 31, 2018 10:56 PM

Wow a lot of action here today! This is not the darkest 24 hours on DL! This is a bitch fest, not a sympathic coffee . Have you read any other threads here? This is way kinder than a discussion about draining pasta for DL. Put your big girl pants on , we’re not Sam’s fan club, unless talking about his butt.

by Anonymousreply 228March 31, 2018 11:07 PM

Two years ago, Luke was right next to Sam's empty seat -Sam was talking to Cait and her bf Tony- at Outlander premiere, NYC:

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by Anonymousreply 229March 31, 2018 11:09 PM

And Luke Neal's birthday is on March..........

by Anonymousreply 230March 31, 2018 11:10 PM

r213. Stay calm. I am still here. And everything will be good and fine and nice. And a happy easter to you.

Those last 72 hours here where right off the scripted PR playbook.

Nothing really happened. Nothing. Really nothing. He was not in NYC in the last days. Surely not with TB.

And his TW complain was not about something happened in the last two weeks. Otherwise he wont be so upset about "tardy" reactions and additional costs. During his last two short stays in LA he was probably staying in a Hotel paid by production.

And, and and and: This was obviously a private trip. Could be everywhere. Could be with Duncan or any other guy. May be somewhere downtown where gays are not welcome? The talk about "unsafe". Could meen anything.

So, he did not show up at this obscure, best dressed scottish award thing? And they are still hitting the drums for this Alpha male thing?

And just for the record. He has spent less than 12 hours with TB since September 2017.

by Anonymousreply 231April 1, 2018 12:30 AM

[quote]And Luke Neal's birthday is on March..........

That's right, R230; it's March 16.

by Anonymousreply 232April 1, 2018 2:18 AM

Sam has lost two contests today, the Alpha Male Madness and that Scottish Style Award.

Two years ago, he won Alpha very easily (he also lost it last year). Sam should fire his PR team -and of course, the beard- and his ' great stylists'.....

[quote]"They can hype up the king of men all they want. Truth is his popularity is declining. He lost two contests today, that Scottish Style Award (and no wonder, he alternates between the Biebs, heroine addict looking to score, and suits in Toddler sizes) and Alpha Male Madness. Two years ago he would have won Alpha with one hand tied behind his back and the other diddling his musty balls. Boy, how things have changed."

by Anonymousreply 233April 1, 2018 3:26 AM

R233 imo the guy had bigger fish to fry. I doubt he cares at all.

by Anonymousreply 234April 1, 2018 6:19 AM

I agree that these awards are not important to him any longer. The big awards are the ones he would like to win. he's already won these other ones. They were good when he was first becoming known but won't do for him what the bigger awards will do.

by Anonymousreply 235April 1, 2018 12:53 PM

The issue is he is not even getting nominated for the bigger awards, let alone winning them. I doubt there will be any Emmy nominations for any of them either. There are two things out there that can't be changed. His tweet with Amy Shiels saying, not exactly but something like, my bat isn't straight, but you know that. The other is Luke's heartfelt IG post about his soulmate. He said they may come into your life for a very short or long time, or come and go. It doesn't matter how long, for he will be better for having them in his life. Sam jumped on and teased him about not using proper punctuation. After this post, Luke's instagram account was deleted. It was around the time they traveled together for S2 promo. Luke also did a podcast about the HW closet still being alive and well. I always thought that was geared towards Sam also.

by Anonymousreply 236April 1, 2018 2:25 PM

R236, yep, no straight guy would ever say this...

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by Anonymousreply 237April 1, 2018 3:31 PM

Nice reminder, R236.

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by Anonymousreply 238April 1, 2018 3:36 PM

Interesting that Luke says you meet a person,one of your soulmates, not soulmate. Luke is implying multiple people,not the one. I would think that Sam has similar thinking. Love the one your with. Good for them. Hollywood relationships have a less than 50% chance of lasting,do to time spent a part and having being exposed to so many pretty people of shared values. Why risk your money on that kind of bet? On/Off relationships are the best.

by Anonymousreply 239April 1, 2018 4:42 PM

R237 Listen Drama Queens, I’m so jealous he prefers you bitches over me. Luke was one lucky lover. Sam, you little fool...

by Anonymousreply 240April 1, 2018 6:43 PM

There aren’t any men on this thread anymore, you have not been paying attention. After the initial threads, it was concluded Sam is gay, there’s no porn, and they moved on , leaving us ladies to go over the details endlessly. Although we’ve had many, many threads about HW homophobia, and much sympathy for for those affected by it , at this point our sympathy for Heughan has grown thin. Not because he hasn’t come out ; that is none of our business. But because he keeps feeding fans so much confusing b. s. that’s just annoying.

by Anonymousreply 241April 1, 2018 7:14 PM

R233

The ridiculous PR bearding is backfiring and hurting Sam's image. And it's not making him look 'straight'. Just the opposite, in fact ..xd

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by Anonymousreply 242April 1, 2018 8:44 PM

R241 No one can be sure who's posting on this thread. It really doesn't matter though. You are very correct, however, in that the sympathy is running thin for Sam. Does he care? No one will ever know. If the paycheck is big enough, perhaps not. We can presume until hell and back again, but the fact is none of us know the guy personally. Although some claim to have solid proof/evidence from years ago and from far removed acquaintances. You're right. The entire point of this thread is not to call him out (although DL can be savage) but to call the PR BS for what it is. It's bullshit! Some may consider that calling on Sam to step out too, but the main point here is to shed light on the homophobic insanity in HW. R223; case and point.

R242 You may be right, but the Shamzies still dominate at the current time. However, the shift is in the air. Biggest mistake ever. #stopbearding

by Anonymousreply 243April 2, 2018 2:42 AM

R238 Well that's pretty damn sad... Whatever happened to Luke anyway?

R424 What's that from. Article about bearding? It's just a screenshot...

by Anonymousreply 244April 2, 2018 5:18 AM

R243 Does it really matter who Sam uses as a beard? He’s apparently not coming out of the closet anytime soon, but the game playing is sooo annoying. He hints he’s with Balfe, he appears with the blonde beard, he airs his stupid vacation complaints; on and on with constant mysteries. Why doesn’t he just stick to normal tw stuff about his tv show etc. He loves the games.

by Anonymousreply 245April 2, 2018 5:33 AM

R245 No, it doesn't matter. The entire crap idea of a beard, in general, is the problem. For some reason, though, MM is an extra sore subject. Go figure...

by Anonymousreply 246April 2, 2018 5:49 AM

I know this isn't Sam's fan club, but when he deserves it, we celebrate him as the gay actor he is. Here's a wonderful article about him with no beards mentioned. I'm wondering if people behind the scenes in HW know he's gay and that's why he isn't getting any nominations. Homophobia at its "best".

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by Anonymousreply 247April 2, 2018 7:49 AM

Holy fuck, R247, you're sending us into a diabetic coma. That was a fanfic worthy of Babbledon, herself. Prepare for the second coming of Heughan.

by Anonymousreply 248April 2, 2018 1:48 PM

I’ve seen puff pieces written by “entertainment journalists,” before but that one is OTT. If he were as brilliant an actor in every scene, as she claims, he’d have won more than just fan polls, by now. Smh

by Anonymousreply 249April 2, 2018 2:29 PM

I think this article is a paid piece -- like the ones in Just Jared.

by Anonymousreply 250April 2, 2018 2:35 PM

R236

Is Luke openly out? If not what was the context for speaking about the HW Closet?

by Anonymousreply 251April 2, 2018 2:46 PM

[quote][R241] No one can be sure who's posting on this thread.

Right, R243, and it's poor etiquette to make assumptions about sexuality and gender, here, and binary assumptions, at that.

by Anonymousreply 252April 2, 2018 2:50 PM

One thing is certain - when Sam wants to go missing, he can. Makes his PR lG and TW likes even more obvious. When he wants to be seen with his beard he "announces" it via SM a couple of days earlier. I'm not a very smart guy and even I notice it lol. PR fail

by Anonymousreply 253April 2, 2018 2:55 PM

That said, R252, we reserve the right to call you a cunt or a dick, regardless of your gender. 😝

by Anonymousreply 254April 2, 2018 2:59 PM

Fraus want to shut down DL

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by Anonymousreply 255April 2, 2018 4:46 PM

since she seems to be the voice of righteousness maybe she could make a list of all the sites that offend her and take it to someone to see if she can them all removed. what kind of a bubble do these people live in?

by Anonymousreply 256April 2, 2018 4:57 PM

You can bet those bitches are constantly trolling here or they wouldn’t know squat about what’s discussed on this thread.

by Anonymousreply 257April 2, 2018 5:16 PM

[quote]I think children should be shielded against this. It is not right. They are messing with people's personal lives, and livelihood. DL should be held accountable.

I want to say something so awful it would get me red tagged immediately. So I won't.

by Anonymousreply 258April 2, 2018 5:18 PM

Has Contemplating Outlander lost all her marbles? She is crying misogyny when she is in cahoots with William Shatner and Paul Camuso! Her life's mission is to push TB and Sam. If she doesn't like this site, she can just stay away. It's so easy. You can't remove every little thing that offends. There would be no internet content.

by Anonymousreply 259April 2, 2018 5:20 PM

OL is a hypocrite. She posted her conjecture about Sam being gay, but removed the post when Paul Camuso came after her hard.

by Anonymousreply 260April 2, 2018 5:32 PM

R260 is RIGHT.

Contemplating Outlander has talked about Sam's sexuality before, she has always suspected that he is gay....and Shatner and Camuso went after her.

Then, Camuso asked Purv to go back to the Outlander fandom but CO wants to be the SHAMzie Queen again......She wants to control and police everybody everywhere.

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by Anonymousreply 261April 2, 2018 5:38 PM

I've never seen a fandom so fucked up as the Outlander one - from all sides. What's wrong with people?

by Anonymousreply 262April 2, 2018 5:53 PM

R262 Loneliness and desperation.... I had to leave. Too weird. I have to say that the MPC crowd is a solid one. Many were lead there via word of mouth, not via OL. But the OL fandom needs serious intervention. Of course, it's made SH a shit load of money too.

by Anonymousreply 263April 2, 2018 6:12 PM

That the shamzies would want to shut down DL or this thread is an indication that on some level they know the truth. If SH and TB made any sense at all, they wouldn't have to defend it so hard, and if SH were not gay, they could ignore the rumors. They can't, because it's the truth of them that they find disturbing. I agree that there has been a shift in perception recently among hardcore fans and observers. Though not enough to change the fundamentals for the PR team, which is focused on the broad, casual fan base.

by Anonymousreply 264April 2, 2018 6:18 PM

Please know that there are OL fans who are liberal progressives with gay family members. We are listening carefully to you because we value what you say, even when it might be deemed 'crude' by intolerant others. I am MPC and value what Sam is doing there. 95% of the fandom content is harmless, providing a fun platform of book-Jamie and tv-Jamie discussions. The talk is about how gorgeous Sam is, his kindness towards others, and how he is overtired and needs to sleep. They spend a lot of money buying a lot of junk trinkets and paying $100 for a photo, this is true. But they are fans acting as a fandom. The odd nasty bitch should just be ignored by you. Every time you are riled, she scores a vindictive point against you. She loves stirring trouble and she needs to be utterly ignored. Don't call her any names, don't call her anything. Just ignore her and she'll go.

by Anonymousreply 265April 2, 2018 6:55 PM

r264. Sometimes I think, that they write their "anon" posts by themselves. Why does CO not post herself, that she wants DL closed? Which she obviously wants more than any other thing.

by Anonymousreply 266April 2, 2018 7:00 PM

r265. And honey, why exactly should we do that?

by Anonymousreply 267April 2, 2018 7:02 PM

Exactly r265.... Enough said....

by Anonymousreply 268April 2, 2018 7:02 PM

r255. And now CO started editing her lamento...

by Anonymousreply 269April 2, 2018 7:27 PM

R261 I feel sorry for her. She must feel so trapped if she really wants to say something, but knows those third-party fandom members with ties to Sam will come down on her like a ton of bricks. Especially, with her position in the fandom, she's not just a small OL blog.

R262

I think OL might be taking over SPN for having the most toxic and entitled fandom.

by Anonymousreply 270April 2, 2018 8:05 PM

191 is right. These rentals are pricey. The poor guy needs a,rest. Gay or not

by Anonymousreply 271April 2, 2018 9:24 PM

Is this the rental fiasco?? The beard just posted on Instagram. She supposedly is/was in France. She’s a little late with Easter greetings.

by Anonymousreply 272April 2, 2018 10:53 PM

r272. He is not allowed skiing. She was probably around there for skiing, concerning her local tagging.

by Anonymousreply 273April 2, 2018 10:58 PM

R273 why is he not allowed skiing? I don’t think for a second he was with her I’m just wondering at that comment.

by Anonymousreply 274April 2, 2018 11:08 PM

[quote]Has Contemplating Outlander lost all her marbles? She is crying misogyny when she is in cahoots with William Shatner and Paul Camuso! Her life's mission is to push TB and Sam.

CO thinks she's the Florence Nightingale of former "shippers" helping her "followers" "get off the ship." In reality, she's just another obsessed fan who doesn't know her own mind and can't even help herself.

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by Anonymousreply 275April 2, 2018 11:18 PM

r274. He is also not allowed to climb. Part of most actors contracts, sometimes also including motorcycling. To dangerous and to expensive for the production insurance.

by Anonymousreply 276April 2, 2018 11:19 PM

There were pictures of him in Switzerland in ski country last year.

by Anonymousreply 277April 2, 2018 11:27 PM

He said he was going to climb Kili in 2016 and never did. Wonder if that got nixed contractually, and if so, wouldn't skiing be nixed, too?

by Anonymousreply 278April 2, 2018 11:35 PM

And now Sam will probably like here IG post without actually posting anything on SM related to him being in France. Just enough game playing to send the Shamzies into overdrive on how they are vacationing together in France. Same old, same old.

by Anonymousreply 279April 2, 2018 11:56 PM

Now let the engagement speculation begin again, sine they celebrated their 2 year anniversary of blissful being together in romantic France.

by Anonymousreply 280April 3, 2018 12:05 AM

Interesting that anyone who questions the SM flimflam and doesn't buy what they're selling is called a "conspiracy theorist." What would the conspiracy be, excatly? That another HW actor has hired a PR firm to improve his image? That's just business as usual in Tinseltown.

by Anonymousreply 281April 3, 2018 12:05 AM

Well. What have I predicted? To lazy to look it up myself :-).

by Anonymousreply 282April 3, 2018 12:21 AM

There is no two year anniversary for her with Sam. She was still in photos with Billy the end of March 2016 and still with him for months after. End of March she was snuggling in the streets of NYC with Billy. No Sam. No anniversary. All a big trolling sham.

by Anonymousreply 283April 3, 2018 12:28 AM

R279 He won't even need to do that. His luxury rental tweet + her pic is more than enough PROOF for them. As I said before, they can just let them run w/the narrative at this point with very little actually being done.

by Anonymousreply 284April 3, 2018 12:36 AM

The tactics for promoting Shamzie are so predictable (DL accurately call it out before it even happens!) and heavy handed that it simply makes it even less believable. Real relationships don’t need to be promoted. How many times has Shamzie attempted to become RC official? Three or four? The only outlet interested in promoting the sham has been Just Jared. Most others have avoided it because they suspect that is all a sham because if Heughan was straight, they know that he could do much better than a dim-witted D-list actress (having seen her interviewed during the promo for Into the Woods, be assured that it would be challenging to spend even a short period of time with her as she’s as thick as a brick!) who’s clearly struggling to find employment. That she does not seem to be friends with anyone from previous acting jobs is also telling. At this point, it doesn’t matter how much effort Heughan and Balfe put into promoting the beard, no one with any intelligence is ever going to buy the shit their selling. The beard and Balfe are not besties (Cait was too heavy handed again) and Sam is still gay! He would be better off going to events solo rather than dragging the beard along. Along with his dreadful styling team (one note HW hairstyle that does nothing for him and a seeming inability to see that his suits are too small), the beard makes Sam seem like a lesser person - less attractive, less intelligent and far far less interesting.

by Anonymousreply 285April 3, 2018 12:45 AM

Ask about our affordable rates for struggling C- and D-list actors.

by Anonymousreply 286April 3, 2018 12:48 AM

All this SH and TB stuff aside, you are spot on r281 Business as usual and whatever the truth is behind all of this, it's not stopping anytime soon. Too much money at stake. It's all about the mighty $$ . Viewers and fandom = money. And that's all that matters... KaChing! In the meantime, homophobia is still strong and present. Disgusting... r285 Well said.... Now I'm curious about TB. Never gave her much thought. On second thought.....

by Anonymousreply 287April 3, 2018 12:48 AM

[quote]There is no two year anniversary for her with Sam. She was still in photos with Billy the end of March 2016 and still with him for months after.

You are right.

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by Anonymousreply 288April 3, 2018 1:00 AM

[quote] End of March she was snuggling in the streets of NYC with Billy. No Sam. No anniversary. All a big trolling sham.

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by Anonymousreply 289April 3, 2018 1:02 AM

Exactly right, R281. It's not a conspiracy theory to point out that this is following the typical script of a HW bearding scenario, which sadly is a fucking common strategy used by PR for gay actors.

by Anonymousreply 290April 3, 2018 1:10 AM

r283. Your comment about TB fails presumably capitalizing connections from her former jobs should be framed in Platin.

Thanks for that input. TB is just an overaged, former child/teen actor, who knows in her heart already, that she never will get an acting job. Those two years playing Sam beard did not get her another job, nor made Sam looking more straight. Classical lose/lose situation.

by Anonymousreply 291April 3, 2018 1:17 AM

TB's not worth your time, 287. You missed nothing. What I can't get is why, after a few outings with her, Sam didn't insist that they get him someone for a beard whom he could at least stand to be around. It would have been so much easier for him to "sell" the relationship then. He's certainly not doing so now. What has bothered me from the jump is that Sam may actually LIKE this horrible girl (not as a lover, of course, but just as a person) and that she is a true example of the type of people he looks to for friendship.

by Anonymousreply 292April 3, 2018 1:19 AM

Interesting observation R285. The whole cast from Into the Woods -- Anna Kendrick, Emily Blunt, Billy Magnussen, Chris Pine, James Corden -- have all had great roles since that film. Yet, none of them send her any SM love. If she's a double threat (actress, singer) why no role in the Pitch series or on Broadway in Frozen? Her ex has landed lots of good film roles (with good directors) and is much more high profile and better regarded as an actor than Sam. Seems she picked the wrong pony. In the two years of bearding, she's managed to bump up her Insta numbers from around 5,000 followers to a little over 23k (and those will likely drop when Sam's not part of the equation) -- not much return for her efforts. Now she's got to sell skin cream in a Mary-Kay-for-millennials pyramid scheme.

by Anonymousreply 293April 3, 2018 1:24 AM

Anna Kendrick happily interacts with a wide cross section of people (and has written about the paid bearding offer made to her which she refused!) yet no interaction (not even a “like”) of anything posted on SM by the airhead Mauzy (dear suits, having her post a picture of a book will not help her seem smarter when the bulk of her SM looks like it’s been written by a pre-teen and it’s always obvious when someone has written content for her). I’m waiting for Heughan’s SM person to post a picture of him in France or otherwise you can expect a mention of a holiday to France with his “GF” in an upcoming article. If only Heughan’s team spent their time promoting his acting skills rather than that of the dumb blond who escorts him (the link to her “CV” in recent click bait articles was a dead give away) perhaps he might actually get some recognition for his work. I agree with 285, the beard makes Heughan seem far less attractive, interesting or relevant. Just another HW wannabe dating a fake blond (with a very bad dye job).

by Anonymousreply 294April 3, 2018 1:48 AM

I also meant to say in my previous post that my sister, who is a fan of the soap that TB was on, read somewhere at the time that TB left that show (long before OL) that 1) TB asked to get out of the show bc she was going on to "bigger and better things" and 2) the soap's producers chose to kill off her character to make it clear to TB that there'd be no way she'd ever be returning. She had pissed them all off THAT much. I know no one ever "dies" on a US soap; but, even so, that was an extreme step.

Also, I've heard from several sources that TB really upset the company of "Into the Woods" with her diva-esque behavior. It was a big crew and cast, with a bunch of promising young actors, as well as icons Meryl Streep and Johnny Depp - yet TB stood out, but not in a good way. Apparently, lots of people have talked to their colleagues about her and the word is out - not just in HW but on BW as well. Excellent point, 293, about the wealth of musicals on BW right now with BIG casts, full of roles for 20-something singing actresses. TB got zilch. Did I mention that Rob Marshall, who directed "Into the Woods," was (and still is) a greatly-respected director/choreographer from BW? Word does get around and chickens do come home to roost ....

by Anonymousreply 295April 3, 2018 1:51 AM

Thanks for the info R295. Now it makes sense why she isn't being cast. Why the hell would SH agree to have her as his beard?

by Anonymousreply 296April 3, 2018 2:02 AM

Or even be seen with her in public [R296]! She’s a spoilt Daddy’s princess who thinks she’s far too good for supporting roles. Bearding suits her as it involves very little work and lots of attention. Her prance down the red carpet at SDCC spoke volumes about her true nature. And if Heughan wants to keep associating with her in any form, then more fool him. It’s not helping him professionally (hardly the “attractive HW sex symbol” when his “GF” is so obviously bargain basement).

by Anonymousreply 297April 3, 2018 2:10 AM

I assume she was chosen because she is Princess Rapunzel. A princess for the King of Men. People that do not research her , eat that kind of dumb shit up. PR must of decided she would do and perhaps cheap. The problem is ,they are not a very attractive couple when photographed together. No chemistry. No heat. Sam looks hotter alone.

by Anonymousreply 298April 3, 2018 2:18 AM

r294. The longer I watch TB s IG I believe, that 90 % of the posts are scripted from professionals or with PR helpers. Most, almost her pics from landscape are not published stock photos (so you can't track the source.

This tonight picture oft the Rhone Alpes looks like taken from an airplane according the level it was took from. And it must be taken, from an cruising height flying from west to East. This is probably a sun rise time, otherwise you will not get a pic with this Horizont.

May be I am wrong with times and dates. But for sure, this is a stock foto

by Anonymousreply 299April 3, 2018 2:20 AM

Sam, please, please, please.......FFS.... please. Starting to beg now....

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by Anonymousreply 300April 3, 2018 2:22 AM

[quote]. She was still in photos with Billy the end of March 2016 and still with him for months after.

Yes, lot of clues pointing that the beard MM and her boyfriend Billy Magnussen were still together.

What a PR mess for Sam, not everybody is as dumb and gullible as the shamzies....xd

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by Anonymousreply 301April 3, 2018 4:00 AM

Relationship built on stock photos and likes. Love of the century lolol

by Anonymousreply 302April 3, 2018 9:49 AM

According to his post on MPC, Sam has had the flu for the past week. Don’t think he has been in the Alps. Innuendo from TB yet again.

by Anonymousreply 303April 3, 2018 12:00 PM

maybe you could start a thread just about MM instead of posting her life in this thread

by Anonymousreply 304April 3, 2018 12:33 PM

These threads have gone way past Prancing Pony territory. Once a discussion about a closeted actor, now a place for unstable pissed off shippers to rant crazily about a woman they routinely harrass on Instagram.

I'm out, and I hope the webmaster shuts this lunacy down.

by Anonymousreply 305April 3, 2018 1:41 PM

Now the trolls are spraying air freshener over the stink of extreme cuntiness, here. Maybe the finger-waggers and beard haters can kindly piss off and/or get back to the thread topic...

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by Anonymousreply 306April 3, 2018 2:05 PM

Related: Taylor Swift defends a lesbian singer against homophobia...

[quote]Responding to fans who perceived Kiyoko’s comments as a slight, she wrote: “We should applaud artists who are brave enough to tell their honest romantic narrative through their art, and the fact is that I’ve never encountered homophobia and she has. “It’s her right to call out anyone who has double standards about gay vs straight love interests.”

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by Anonymousreply 307April 3, 2018 2:09 PM

Looks like the PR shill/head Shamzie has gotten instructions to lay it on thick for the fake anniversary and holiday since there was no real life encounter set up. They may repeat what they did last year for his birthday. Use old pictures that were taken then saved for bearding needs through out the year and/or photoshop the beard into pictures.. Doubt Lionsgate and Allen will want to pay for a trip to Scotland so soon after the huge expense of Oscars night.

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by Anonymousreply 308April 3, 2018 5:33 PM

You are on the money 285. The only thing that makes me suspect is that no gay man I know has taste like that. It's dreadful. Can he get a new stylist or is it a contractual thing. The beard as u call her is rich red neck gone wrong. BLESS HER HEART .If he's straight or gay he can do much better than that. No style no education mediocre talent .Thought the Vanity fair Oscar party was a joke. I would be embarrassed but I guess she does not care. The man needs a rest...He looks exhausted.

by Anonymousreply 309April 3, 2018 6:07 PM

[quote]According to his post on MPC, Sam has had the flu for the past week. Don’t think he has been in the Alps. Innuendo from TB yet again.

[quote]Relationship built on stock photos and likes. Love of the century lolol

And today, Sam is at the gym in Scotland while The Beard is hiring a bycicle in France (per Purv).....lmao

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by Anonymousreply 310April 3, 2018 7:39 PM

R310 Sam prefers to get sweaty with the guys in the gym (and outside)

by Anonymousreply 311April 3, 2018 7:54 PM

Last week, Sam has been ill. Today, Sam is in Glasgow............and Purv's lies are debunked...xd:

p-redux @pdxblonde And I just got a DM letting me know this morning Mackenzie followed a bike rental place on IG that rents bikes in vacation spots including in France. Look like a verra romantic trip a deux. ❤

by Anonymousreply 312April 3, 2018 8:18 PM

R312 Here's something for Purv and her bike.

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by Anonymousreply 313April 3, 2018 8:26 PM

That bike rental is not current. Probably from an old trip. Nobody is biking in the Alps now and Sam was home sick. Troll.

by Anonymousreply 314April 3, 2018 8:51 PM

R308 This is insane. Insane....insane....insane... At this point, what team SH plays for and TB are taking a cool second to the absolute insanity of this all. This is just way too weird and wrong no matter who the gossip is about.

R310 Ok, so that was posted today. Fantastic. Loved seeing Sam sweaty. Looking at the other hand though. Just playing the devil's advocate for a second. Cool your jets down "Queens". Read and think first. How do we know they're not yanking OUR chains by posting an old gym pic. Sam may be hiding. His flu could be BS. Maybe he DID jet off with you know who. (Yawn) Please think before you lose your minds over this post. I'm not a shipper or a Shamzie, but I'm also not a fool. None of them are trusted...that includes SH. Lies Lies Lies.... It also is very disturbing that one of SH family members is brought into this Shamzie ridiculousness just because "they" claim they liked an MM IG post. NOT ok. None of this stupidity belongs to any of the extended family members of SH or TB.

Calling the BS out for what it is is fine, but don't stoop to the lowest levels with the rest of the crackheads. It's hard to get the facts, but don't make up shit either.

Feedback anyone??

by Anonymousreply 315April 3, 2018 10:38 PM

R315 Craig McGinley did a live IG story of the 5 guys at the gym. Just letting you know.

by Anonymousreply 316April 3, 2018 10:47 PM

Thanks R316

by Anonymousreply 317April 3, 2018 11:09 PM

R315, the shamzies are the ones making up shit.

On these days two years ago, Sam brought Luke to private parties and Outlander events. He was as gay he is today.......;)

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by Anonymousreply 318April 3, 2018 11:43 PM

R318 Thanks...

by Anonymousreply 319April 3, 2018 11:55 PM

Shake that ass, Sam! ;))

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by Anonymousreply 320April 4, 2018 12:08 AM

R320

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by Anonymousreply 321April 4, 2018 12:11 AM

R318 And then JA happened...

by Anonymousreply 322April 4, 2018 12:13 AM

Nothing happened as hoped and predicted from the shamzie front. Sam had the flue, and was filming on Wednesday and half of Thursday last week. Then he was probably staying at home and relaxing. Yesterday he did his work out at the gym. He did us let know this with his posts on SM.

He has seen TB not more than 12 Hours since September.

by Anonymousreply 323April 4, 2018 11:04 AM

Safe to say that anything that Heughan posts on SM, or says in an interview, should not be taken to be the truth. He, Balfe and the beard have been so busy manipulating the OL fandom that they seem to have lost sight of the fact that many no longer trust of like them (many former fans just check in these days to watch the trainwreck that is OL and it’s cast/crew). Sam has now been reduced to a HW cliche with a bimbo blond D-lister in tow (whether fake or real) and crappy stylist. He hasn’t been nominated for any major acting awards (because PR focused on the “hot Scot” aspect) and is now losing the popular awards that he once won easily because his buddy Shatner has spent the last two years aggressively bullying those fans who once voted in fan polls etc. When Sam has to resort to tweeting about his beard’s dodgy charity (cameras for starving children who need food, clean water, access to education etc) just to generate online discussion, something has gone seriously wrong with the PR plan. Having spent many years as a top tier PR consultant, my advice would be to ditch the beard ASAP (she’s a toxic nightmare that no amount of PR can fix), acknowledge the harm caused by Shatner’s bullying and apologise for not speaking up against it and stop the manipulative SM games while he still has some fans left. For a supposedly humble and kind person, Sam has repeatedly shown very poor judgement over the past 3 years with respect to whom he associates with. I also recommend that Starz shut those annoying OL drivers up. Their repeated leaking of info about the cast is so unprofessional. They should have been shut down years ago but have been permitted to suck on the OL teat like Sam’s work adverse beard.

by Anonymousreply 324April 4, 2018 12:51 PM

r324. How true, but it’s never going to happen. Once they were humble and grateful, but then the lights of HW twinkled at them. The loss of the fan voted awards must sting a little, since Sam in particular used to win these at a canter. The fandom is unsettled by the fakery and drama, so withholding voting fingers and £$ to charities and sponsorship. However the beard narrative does work for the casual fan of the show, they don’t use SM and only see the odd red carpet/party photo in a magazine, they don’t realise what a shitshow it is behind the gloss. If they want to see how to handle a fandom, GoT does it really well. And they have dragons!

by Anonymousreply 325April 4, 2018 2:04 PM

like it or not Sam is friends with MM. He also supports his friends in their endeavors and posts quite frequently about those things that they are doing, not just MM. Just because you don't like MM there is no need to tear apart a charity that she supports.

by Anonymousreply 326April 4, 2018 2:32 PM

R326 Good point.. Family and charities should be left out as R315 noted.

How about closing this thread permanently, leaving SH & MM alone to do whatever it is they need to do IF they're actually doing it (who cares!) and let the train wreck where it may? This is all so nauseatingly dumb. The truth always comes out in the end and we won't know the truth for sure until it jumps out of that party cake. SURPRIZE! And are we really entitled to it? Who will be the fools eating crow in the end? In the meantime, this homophobic crap in HW needs to be called out for what it is until it stops... Not ok... But if an actor chooses to closet themselves, it's their business, their choice, their hide and their soul. All we can do is sit back and ask "How's that work'n out for ya?" :/

by Anonymousreply 327April 4, 2018 2:35 PM

Seriously, R327? Are you suggesting that anyone with an LGBT perspective just STFU? I'm sure JA & Co. would love to see DL and any further speculation that doesn't fit the HW narrative just disappear. Shame on you.

by Anonymousreply 328April 4, 2018 3:29 PM

I wonder who's tappin' dat at the gym?

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by Anonymousreply 329April 4, 2018 3:43 PM

Are you a paid troll R327? I bet you're one of those women who expresses righteous indignation about the #MeToo Movement, yet never hold the tangled network of enables responsible. MM is enabling a soul-crushing practice to keep people from openly loving who they wish to love. She's no different than all the women knowingly sent other women into the clutches of Weinstein, Lauer, Rose. et al. Why? Because "it was their job." I've seen plenty of comments here about "bearding is a job." It's a job that needs to end. When you root out the enablers who do it for their own financial gain, you make big strides in putting an end to harmful norms that shouldn't be acceptable to anyone.

by Anonymousreply 330April 4, 2018 3:51 PM

R328 & R330 Shame on yourself! Yes, seriously and why is someone suddenly a troll if they walk off the beaten path around here? Is that all you really have? Did you even read my post?! There is no way I suggested to anyone to STFU. As a matter of fact, quite the contrary. This thread is of no use anymore. Think about it. As a matter of fact, it's counterproductive. SH, MM, JA, JJ, and all the rest are completely capitalizing off this attention while we make complete assholes out of ourselves. That goes for the shippers and Shamzies too. This is exactly what they want; tons and tons of attention and PR, negative or not. $KaChing$! They don't give a shit! The focus needs to go back to homophobic HW in general. SH is not the only one presumed to be in the closet. He's a little fish in a big fucking shiny ocean of closeted gay actors who walk that red carpet and make complete fools of all the fans.. Relative to the rest, no one knows SH. This thread is perpetuating this PR game. It's the A'lister closeted gays that need to be called to the carpet before any of this changes in HW. There is no leverage with SH, but it's certainly giving him, MM, JA, and the rest everything they want.

by Anonymousreply 331April 4, 2018 4:03 PM

r331. If you don't like it here, why you are writing this long sermon? This is our thread and, we, the old inhabitants own it. Nobody is calling us out here!

by Anonymousreply 332April 4, 2018 4:09 PM

r329. Duncan?

by Anonymousreply 333April 4, 2018 4:11 PM

[quote]This thread is of no use anymore.

WTF? This thread is just a discussion forum. It's not meant to be a political statement or a hate blog or a message to JA or HW or anyone else. We're individual, anonymous posters, not looking for followers like all the little tumblrinas and OL fantards. This is not about you, either, R331. Geez, get a grip.

by Anonymousreply 334April 4, 2018 4:19 PM

What this thread needs is a little more caliente. Sam supplied it for us with that tantalizing ass wiggle @ R329. Let's imagine what's happening a the gym, shall we?

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by Anonymousreply 335April 4, 2018 4:34 PM

Or when he's taking care of himself...

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by Anonymousreply 336April 4, 2018 4:40 PM

Or after bagging a munro with a hiking buddy...

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by Anonymousreply 337April 4, 2018 5:07 PM

Could all the posters in the past couple of threads who are here to discuss Heughan beard ad nausium please start their own tumblr thread? Your cross - posting on tumblr and then on DL has not only ruined these threads, but brought unwelcome attention to DL on OL fan sites. The particular beard being used in this closeting scenario is irrelevant and way beside the point. Please let us return to the actual topic.

by Anonymousreply 338April 4, 2018 5:47 PM

Related: Speaking of the gym, a film from Switzerland tackles the stigma that exists for gay men in pro sports...

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by Anonymousreply 339April 4, 2018 6:00 PM

TB looks like she has a baby bump in her recent picture. Could it be Sam's?

by Anonymousreply 340April 4, 2018 8:25 PM

Only in the sense that Jesus is the Son of God, 340. You are ill. Put the tinfoil back on your head and go far away from here, please.

by Anonymousreply 341April 4, 2018 8:52 PM

Seriously 340...she just has a gut

by Anonymousreply 342April 4, 2018 8:53 PM

Plus, a pregnancy now would interfere with the forward momentum of her brilliant, red-hot acting career.

by Anonymousreply 343April 4, 2018 8:57 PM

R340, take the beard speculation elsewhere.

by Anonymousreply 344April 4, 2018 9:51 PM

I read on this thread that a lavender marriage and a child are sometimes the next step, when the person in the closet feels desperate and pressured to do this . She photo shopped before, maybe her gut is just that. Not speculation just observation.

by Anonymousreply 345April 4, 2018 10:01 PM

If a lavender marriage happens, we’ll discuss it, then, R345.

by Anonymousreply 346April 4, 2018 10:22 PM

[quote]Only in the sense that Jesus is the Son of God, 340. You are ill. Put the tinfoil back on your head and go far away from here, please.

Yes, please.

What a tangled web.....

[quote]"The nasty Bernadette G (one of Shatner’s besties, a serial promoter of Sam’s trashy red carpet escort and a bully whose Twitter account was suspended after she attacked SC shippers), is now apparently working as the PR person for Adam Sigal, who directed Sam in the indie film (they’re friends also apparently!) where Sam has an appalling American accent."

by Anonymousreply 347April 4, 2018 10:45 PM

I can’t work out if Sam is trolling fans or the beard with his latest matchy matchy “beautiful world” IG post. Irrespective, he’s now coming across as a comparable airhead! #ditchthebeard #getridofmonty #growthefuckup

by Anonymousreply 348April 4, 2018 11:51 PM

According to the SHAMzie Troll Purv and her minions, a like means 'couple' so.......xd This is more than a like.

MM and Hook n Sling:

MM: GET IT Hooknsling: GOT IT MM: GOOD

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by Anonymousreply 349April 5, 2018 12:08 AM

MM in Miami with Jimmy Graham?

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by Anonymousreply 350April 5, 2018 12:09 AM

My vote for tapping his ass is that Craig guy in the gym video. He is an actor and pretty hot. He's hanging with Sam quite a bit at the gym.

by Anonymousreply 351April 5, 2018 12:23 AM

Interesting thought, R351.

by Anonymousreply 352April 5, 2018 12:26 AM

Craig is hot.....

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by Anonymousreply 353April 5, 2018 12:33 AM

Is it me or are the same few tumblr trolls posting over and over and over again the same drivel? It is crazy.

by Anonymousreply 354April 5, 2018 1:03 AM

The Shamzie trolls have taken over this thread and their “leader” keeps threatening to shut DL down. Most of the former Sam/Cait shippers have finally figured out that Sam’s gay but the Shamzies are still eating up what is so clearly a paid bearding arrangement. If Sam was straight, he would not be dating a bargain basement work averse D-lister. And 37 year old men with a modicum of intellect (which Sam seems to have except in relation to his choice of leeching adjacents do not live out their personal lives on SM or post “matchy matchy” IG posts. Have to say that all the silly immature games have made me like Heughan a lot less. Difficult to respect a man who would beard with such a shallow woman. The longer this goes on, the more harm it will do to his image. It just makes him seem dishonest and weak.

by Anonymousreply 355April 5, 2018 1:40 AM

Difficult to respect any person who would beard.

by Anonymousreply 356April 5, 2018 1:52 AM

You could have predicted that their focus would eventually fall on DL because the lavrnder elephant continues to be in the room.

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by Anonymousreply 357April 5, 2018 2:49 AM

These women are everything that is wrong in today's society. What makes these entitled brats think they speak for Sam. What makes them think Sam wants this shut down? Just because they don't like the content, they can't just stomp their feet and ruin it for everyone else.

by Anonymousreply 358April 5, 2018 3:59 AM

The beard is also an entitled brat who seemingly doesn’t believe in working to achieve success but instead leeches off Sam’s work and fame to get ahead. As Heughan appears to condone the beard’s sense of entitlement (even his BFF Balfe has called the beard “amazing”), this gives his fans the greenlight to behave in the same entitled and obnoxious manner. More fool Heughan for associating with such a poison pill. I’ve no doubt that she’s very nice to anyone who can help her get ahead. Based on the lack of interaction with other cast members from Into the Woods and the fact that directors that she’s worked with do no rehire her, they may well have thought that she was toxic as well having worked with her in close quarters. The only people interested in her are the Shamzies.

by Anonymousreply 359April 5, 2018 4:29 AM

R358, why all the hand-wringing about some contingent of clucking tumblrinas? They're just raising DL's profile by sending people over here to troll and get busted. Please just continue to post about Heughan and related topics.

R359, did you get the memo? This thread is not about hating on the beard. Go start a new thread about the beard and you can bash and cunt out over her all you want.

by Anonymousreply 360April 5, 2018 4:37 AM

Good eye, R351. McGinlay was cast in OL to play a plantation owner in S4...

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by Anonymousreply 361April 5, 2018 4:45 AM

Looks like McGinlay's from the same town where Gerry Butler was born. He's a former rugby player who got injured and then became a model and an actor. He's 33 and single, according to this article from a few years ago...

[quote]Craig, 30, who’s single and now lives in London, grew up in Paisley and went to Hutchesons’ Grammar School in Glasgow.

Hmmm, another highly eligible, 30-something bachelor with no apparent relationship history...

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by Anonymousreply 362April 5, 2018 5:06 AM

Heughan and McGinlay working out at the gym...

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by Anonymousreply 363April 5, 2018 5:59 AM

Sam's good friend Tim Downie was cast in s4 as well. Connections everywhere.

by Anonymousreply 364April 5, 2018 6:28 AM

What is the topic of this thread these days? It's a mess -- needs a clean up and clear out of all the weird people.

by Anonymousreply 365April 5, 2018 5:20 PM

R365, define weird.

by Anonymousreply 366April 5, 2018 5:36 PM

R365, the topic of this thread is that Sam is gay, closeted and bearding.

And now, he may be spending time -on and off set- with another hot Scottish guy.

by Anonymousreply 367April 5, 2018 6:10 PM

R351 R353 R362 R363

Don't forget this ;)

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by Anonymousreply 368April 5, 2018 6:32 PM

Sam can add his dancing ass and double bird flipping off to his forever show reel. His Mom can be proud.

by Anonymousreply 369April 5, 2018 7:41 PM

More of his twitching ass, please. Next time, he can moon us. Nobody here cares what his mom thinks, Church Lady @ R369.

by Anonymousreply 370April 5, 2018 9:29 PM

R365 We are all weird in our own way. We should embrace it, and let others embrace theirs. March to the drummer you hear. Too many in the world trying to force others to live their way. A frog doesn't expect rabbits to live like them. We humans have a lot to learn, don't we? On with Sam...that handsome man. Waiting for the day he embraces who he is.

by Anonymousreply 371April 5, 2018 11:08 PM

I took a short view on one of the Shamzie Tumblr. They really discuss about Gofundme campaingns for financing private Investigation in between the Shamzie and Samcait group? Ho weird ist that. In the meantime Sam is leaving breads, no breadcrumbs on SM about gayness. See ass pic and Mary being ill in the bed with a book hided in a cozy bath coat.

by Anonymousreply 372April 5, 2018 11:19 PM

I saw that too R372. Legal battle to determine whether Sam is with the co-worker or the beard. Meanwhile, the truth floats just beneath the surface. What a bizzarre situation.

by Anonymousreply 373April 6, 2018 10:45 AM

Here we go.

Hello dear Mary. I love you.

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by Anonymousreply 374April 6, 2018 11:18 AM

Just had a quick look into the ‘legal battle’. One of the former SC shippers is using legal means (a specialist investigative service) to find out who’s been doxing her and others. Some of the SC shippers received multiple threats (some quite serious). The head Shamzie and the creepy Camuso are believed to have illegally engaged in doxing in order to gain access to information that could then be used to threaten the SC shippers. What’s very worrisome is that JA appears to have routinely passed images and video clips of Heughan and the beard to Purv (nothing like using a clearly unstable person to be your voice piece!). Purv then pushed them out into the OL fandom. It’s obvious to anyway with a brain that this “grand romance” is entirely manufactured and badly so as it’s made Heughan look far less intelligent, less interesting and much less attractive (he just looks awful and uncomfortable next to the beard).

by Anonymousreply 375April 6, 2018 11:30 AM

Clearly, Heughan’s PR team isn’t going for “interesting and attractive.” They’re going for “not gay.”

by Anonymousreply 376April 6, 2018 1:03 PM

R376 Yes, Sam must be pissed at Balfe. She really screwed him with that engagement. He was perfectly fine pretending to be her BF and fucking guys behind the scenes. That beard doesn't seem real at all.

by Anonymousreply 377April 6, 2018 1:11 PM

Seeming real is the important thing, isn’t it? Google’s next invention should be a self-driving beard who will escort you on the RC and appears lifelike in photographs.

by Anonymousreply 378April 6, 2018 1:22 PM

[quote] "The head Shamzie and the creepy Camuso are believed to have illegally engaged in doxing in order to gain access to information that could then be used to threaten the SC shippers. What’s very worrisome is that JA appears to have routinely passed images and video clips of Heughan and the beard to Purv (nothing like using a clearly unstable person to be your voice piece!). Purv then pushed them out into the OL fandom. It’s obvious to anyway with a brain that this “grand romance” is entirely manufactured."

And here are more PR games to feed the dumb SHAMzies, lol

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by Anonymousreply 379April 6, 2018 6:11 PM

[quote]"According to the SHAMzie Troll Purv and her minions, a like means 'couple' so.......xd This is more than a like. MM and Hook n Sling: MM: GET IT Hooknsling: GOT IT MM: GOOD"

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by Anonymousreply 380April 6, 2018 7:01 PM

[quote]Google’s next invention should be a self-driving beard who will escort you on the RC and appears lifelike in photographs.

Are they looking for funders?

by Anonymousreply 381April 6, 2018 8:29 PM

When the beard resorts to using a random academic quote generator because she’s exhausted her limited vocabulary and used all the emojis on her phone... and then Heughan actually “likes” her post. A perfect example of the degrading nature of bearding and it’s corrosive impact on a person’s soul. Wonder what Sam’s oldest friends think of his current behaviour? None of them interact with the beard or even seem to have met her (certainly no evidence of a group of friends/couples hanging out which is usual in real relationships - no doubt Jennifer Allen will now seek to rectify this but it’s far too late and only the brain dead Shamzies are buying the crap that being sold).

by Anonymousreply 382April 6, 2018 8:48 PM

So Sam has liked the kilted bag piper pic but not the 'beard in bikini ' one........lol

I'l post this Gay Sam vid again since the link above didn't work anymore.

Sam shaking his ass for Craig McGinlay IG......

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by Anonymousreply 383April 6, 2018 9:44 PM

Thanks, R383. Twerking Sam needs to be on infinite repeat, here.

by Anonymousreply 384April 6, 2018 11:03 PM

These Barbour videos keep repeating the same silly premise of a guy who presumably puts on a fresh shirt to walk the dog (?) but we know he's really looking to hook up with someone in the woods.

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by Anonymousreply 385April 6, 2018 11:23 PM

[post redacted because linking to dailymail.co.uk clearly indicates that the poster is either a troll or an idiot (probably both, honestly.) Our advice is that you just ignore this poster but whatever you do, don't click on any link to this putrid rag.]

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by Anonymousreply 386April 6, 2018 11:33 PM

[quote]....but we know he's really looking to hook up with someone in the woods.

Yep, this looks better. And more real ;)

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by Anonymousreply 387April 6, 2018 11:48 PM

.......

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by Anonymousreply 388April 6, 2018 11:50 PM

r387 That is a tasty smorgasborg...

by Anonymousreply 389April 7, 2018 12:41 AM

R386 Cats = Ping.

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by Anonymousreply 390April 7, 2018 12:55 AM

R379, Billy Magnussen also liked the kilted bag piper from Venice beach, lol

Are MM and Billy hanging out together?

by Anonymousreply 391April 7, 2018 1:33 AM

R391 TB is a busy girl......

by Anonymousreply 392April 7, 2018 1:54 AM

Billy has moved on in his career and is dating someone.

by Anonymousreply 393April 7, 2018 2:14 AM

R393, that's never been an obstacle for the beard....xd

Look at Billy's IG likes from today and you'll find MM's kilted bag piper from Venice beach.

by Anonymousreply 394April 7, 2018 3:24 AM

That bag piper post of hers is ridiculous. Let’s say you—a normal person in an actual relationship—see something that reminds you of your long distance boyfriend but is absolutely unremarkable otherwise. Is there any reason you’d post your dumb innocuous video and nonsensical quote publicly? No. You’d send it to him directly, have a laugh, and tell him it made you think of him. It’s so over the top and his like of the post is nauseating as hell.

by Anonymousreply 395April 7, 2018 7:31 AM

Ouch Sam! Something is going very wrong today in your little nice OL bubble. Fans talking openly on their tumblr about sueing each other. To defend your straightness?

Your driver, (DRIVER!) who used his position as your driver to collect money from your Fans for financing his trip to the NYC tartan parade. And is calling them cunts on his twitter?

Hey Sam. Not good. Really, really bad. And still no confirmation for a S 5 of OL.

Get rid of TB and Jennifer Allen.

And be very careful about your Barbour advertising contract.

This Saturday may get very uncomfortable for you.

by Anonymousreply 396April 7, 2018 8:27 AM

Holy crap that man needs to hire all of Barbour’s stylists for everything immediately

by Anonymousreply 397April 7, 2018 9:25 AM

Season 5 has been verified by Ron Moore. It's going to happen.

by Anonymousreply 398April 7, 2018 10:54 AM

He's going down the rabbit hole fast....he need's to boost his ratings quick. But as I said before it's all about the Benjamin's until it's not....

by Anonymousreply 399April 7, 2018 11:39 AM

r398. Sorry. No more trolls like you needed here. Your first post!

And No, no official verification from Starz/LG/Sony until today of a S5.

Are you the hired PR on duty today? Go back and try again! But not here.

by Anonymousreply 400April 7, 2018 11:40 AM

Interesting. r1 et alt.

New posters with out any posting history here on Datalounge. Trying to sell the "Sam Heughan is not gay" narrative.

Are this Jennifer Allen bots or just the poor young underpaid PR guy on duty, who has to watch gay Sam Heughan s SM?

by Anonymousreply 401April 7, 2018 2:21 PM

Even back in February it was odd there was no official announcement of S5. Matt Carter speculated it might be because they're trying to negotiate S5 and S6, together

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by Anonymousreply 402April 7, 2018 2:31 PM

R402 I read a TV guide article yesterday that they started s5 production while waiting for the official confirmation. They must be pretty confident. I hope the show will be canceled because I don't think it's good for Sam. But so far it looks like it will be renewed.

by Anonymousreply 403April 7, 2018 2:49 PM

Gawd help us. I wonder what implausible drivel is next on the menu for Rapelander that hardheaded Heughan will refuse to read.

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by Anonymousreply 404April 7, 2018 3:13 PM

R403. I suspect it’s only planning. Breaking the book down into episodic chunks. Deciding which plot points crucial and which can be dropped. Scouting some possible locations and additional cast breakdown. Nothing that can’t be shelved with little or no financial loss if not renewed. I’m on the fence about a possible S5 given the falling numbers, fewer fan voters and lower than anticipated sales/pre sales of S3. It is an expensive project. The cancellation of OL could be a good thing for Sam, and to a lesser extent Caitriona, before they completely turn their fans against them, many are fans of the books and will naturally fall off anyway. A toxic and inquisitive fandom when you’re hiding a secret would be too stressful to maintain through several more seasons.

by Anonymousreply 405April 7, 2018 3:17 PM

Do you think Barbour are aware Sam is gay? Can he lose the deal if he comes out?

by Anonymousreply 406April 7, 2018 3:29 PM

Barbour eems like a very traditional, stodgy, family brand but I think they know Heughan looks better on his own or with other men.

by Anonymousreply 407April 7, 2018 3:33 PM

[quote]before they completely turn their fans against them, many are fans of the books and will naturally fall off anyway. A toxic and inquisitive fandom

Starz tried to position OL to Lionsgate before the merger that they were delivering female eyeballs and ca$h to sponsors because of the "strong female protagonist" and Balfe, when it was really about Heughan and the showmance. Those conservative, middle-aged hausfrau Gabaldon cultists were never feminists.

by Anonymousreply 408April 7, 2018 3:40 PM

They’re into bodice-ripper romance novels. Hardly feminists.

by Anonymousreply 409April 7, 2018 3:44 PM

r406. How can anyone who met him in RL not notifying, that he is gay? Barbour is selling its stuff very well to their huge gay customers group.

by Anonymousreply 410April 7, 2018 4:27 PM

If Barbour wants to appeal to “single male” (read gay) customers they need to model more “body conscious” (read tighter) duds. I notice they’ve been doing it a bit more with Sam, lately.

by Anonymousreply 411April 7, 2018 5:20 PM

Barbour was once the mainstay of the middle class hunting, fishing, shooting crowd. Over recent times they’ve been reinventing themselves for the younger demographic and now the pink pound. Sam fits with this new campaign. I don’t think he’ll be dropped anytime soon.

by Anonymousreply 412April 7, 2018 7:22 PM

Heh reply 400

Mellow out. He announced while they were all in L.A. for Emmy forums...which was 3 weeks ago. It was all over the internet.

by Anonymousreply 413April 8, 2018 2:45 AM

r413 No, there is still no official verification of renewal. Moore said discussions were underway and in his view it would go ahead, but he also said that it was not officially confirmed yet. He said almost the same thing last November and again in February. I for one hope that OL is not renewed (although it probably will be) as it is increasingly poorly written, presented as the Balfe show, and dismissive of SH's talents - perhaps we will see that that these trends have been corrected with Season 4, but sadly I doubt it. Maybe without OL, while his bank balance would take a hit, this beautiful, talented, gay man might be more able and amenable to getting out of the corner he has painted himself into with the ridiculous bearding, and to escaping JA and the vapid attention-seeker - he seems to forget that they work for him, not the other way around.

by Anonymousreply 414April 8, 2018 6:40 AM

Outlander and the endorsements are his bread and butter. Without it he is a gorgeous mediocre actor in a field of younger ones. Once it is over, maybe he will go back to the stage, but right now He's building his nest egg .I'd do the same thing, albeit without the shitshow that he's allowed to happen. It's not too late for him to grow up, dump the beard and the PR circus queens, be himself and hone his craft.

by Anonymousreply 415April 8, 2018 11:48 AM

On this day, two years ago, Sam took Luke to the Burberry party in NYC, April 8 2016:

Since the SHAMzies keep refusing to post this pic......

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by Anonymousreply 416April 8, 2018 6:07 PM

R416 Well, if you ask the SHAMzies, Sam was helping a friend who had broken up with his GF.

by Anonymousreply 417April 8, 2018 6:22 PM

R415 Agreed.... I hope he's saving his pennies wisely..... He'll be 50 before he knows it. Once OL is gone, he'll have to rewrite everything in his life. Being Hollywood famous is very different from being a great and sought after actor. Sam, please prefer the latter and go back to who you once were. Gay and gorgeous..... Your art will flourish if you do...

As far as Barbour is concerned, Sam is selling that line successfully. Good for him. I don't think they care what team he plays for. Sam represents the fashion line very well. He's gorgeous..

by Anonymousreply 418April 8, 2018 6:26 PM

R417 These are the shippers that claim they're hiring private investigators and are going to sue the hell out of everyone on SM who discusses SH and TB??? Who are these people? The only ones who'd have half a chance to go after anyone who uses their 1st amendment right are the subjects at hand. That would be SH and/or TB themselves. Maybe JA. Yes, they could take legal action because it's done every day in HW, but would that pay off for them? SM is there #1 publicity tool. What a joke.

by Anonymousreply 419April 8, 2018 6:34 PM

r418. I do think, that they knew exactly, in which team he plays, when they announced him at their first global brand ambassador. Selling Barbour as a lifestyle to a wider market outside UK and Europe works very well with him. Interesting, that are they using ads with him barely in the german Barbour outlets.

by Anonymousreply 420April 8, 2018 6:38 PM

I agree with [R417], some of these other actors have moved on so quickly: Tobias Menzies to The Terror and then The Crown, Graham McTavish to Preacher and The Colony, Lotte Verbeek to Counterpart, Stanley Webber to Britannia.....perhaps a clause in his contract does not permit other productions,...but this should be a cautionary career tale.....it is always easier to find a job when you already have one....

by Anonymousreply 421April 8, 2018 6:45 PM

r421 all of those actors are completely finished with OL because they all Died. they also weren't the star.

by Anonymousreply 422April 8, 2018 6:51 PM

r422. Hhmmm? Makes me think about an Interview from the early times of OL, where Sam was talking openly about a probably recast of Jamie and Claire behind S 4, cause of the actors real age. May be someone with better searching skills with english mother tongue can find it?

by Anonymousreply 423April 8, 2018 7:01 PM

R422.....he had time for The Spy Who Dumped Me (2018) and When The Starlight Ends (2016) during Outlander (2014-2017)

by Anonymousreply 424April 8, 2018 7:04 PM

R424 Yes, but those were 2/3 months shoots. Shooting a show takes a lot of your time. That's why neither Sam or Caitriona can have another projects.

by Anonymousreply 425April 8, 2018 7:07 PM

R423 Couldn't find it, but I suppose Jamie can be recast, because he isn't that important. The show is about Claire/ Cait so they can even kill Jamie off.

by Anonymousreply 426April 8, 2018 7:08 PM

R423 I remember him saying that but don't remember which interview it was. He was joking though.

by Anonymousreply 427April 8, 2018 7:16 PM

[quote]The show is about Claire/ Cait so they can even kill Jamie off.

We can only hope.

by Anonymousreply 428April 8, 2018 7:19 PM

He's just a placeholder for Claire's husband, at this point. Please let them kill him off so he can go back to doing the interesting, homosex-y, edgy roles that made me interested in him in the first place.

by Anonymousreply 429April 8, 2018 7:24 PM

Sam has been shooting a new ad for Barbour in Northern Scotland:

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by Anonymousreply 430April 8, 2018 9:20 PM

[quote]He's just a placeholder for Claire's husband

And Claire doesn't seem to mind switching husbands, so they're good to go.

by Anonymousreply 431April 8, 2018 9:39 PM

Sam, do it now and don't be gentle. GET OUT NOW!!! Don't resign..... Move on, get ride of TB, be yourself.......and fly.....

by Anonymousreply 432April 8, 2018 10:44 PM

He may as well rake in the money while he can. I doubt he will make a big splash in TSWDM movie. He is too late for HW. OL is his meal ticket, he better hope for a season 5 and six. Re-inventing his PR approach will be the first step in people taking him seriously. I really hope he reads this site ( not the crazy posts) but the ones that want this gorgeous man to be himself, and do better.

by Anonymousreply 433April 9, 2018 1:59 AM

Gay or not, I just want the guy to do well but his PR team is not helping. This association with MM is unbelievable and definitely not a good look for him.

by Anonymousreply 434April 9, 2018 3:23 AM

R434 or not....right.....I miss the good old SH threads on DL

by Anonymousreply 435April 9, 2018 1:07 PM

We post when we have something to say, R435. Either make yourself useful by contributing something informative or go back to tumblr if you want drama and constant chatter.

by Anonymousreply 436April 9, 2018 5:44 PM

R436 after 30 threads it's not the question if SH is gay or not....c'mon....we know he is.

by Anonymousreply 437April 9, 2018 6:21 PM

On this day, two years ago, Sam was at the Tartan Parade in NY happily showing his obvious gayness to the world.

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by Anonymousreply 438April 9, 2018 6:42 PM

Gay Sam in the new OL S03 gag reel

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by Anonymousreply 439April 9, 2018 6:47 PM

Come on, David, you too lol "No. I don’t think you need much direction to look at Sam longingly. [Laughs] He’s a beautiful man. I can say that as a straight man…"

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by Anonymousreply 440April 9, 2018 6:53 PM

David Berry has never convinced us that his character longs/lusts after Jamie. He just can’t pull it off. But thanks for trying!

by Anonymousreply 441April 9, 2018 7:01 PM

For the newbies:

After everybody saw Sam pinging to high heaven at the Tartan Prade -April 9, 2016 R438- the predictable PR fuckery and horrible bearding started. Luke Neal disappeared from the public eye and closed his SM.

- in April, MM's name started to be dropped at the most important Outlander blogs inboxes by 'anon sources'.

- Purv started to make up fake 'sightings' -without any pics, of course.

- Also in April, William Shatner said in an interview that he had dinner with Sam and he had met his 'girlfriend'. It doesn't matter that MM was in NC with her family at that time.....

- In May, the beard started to post innuendo in her IG. She only had 3,000 followers. Now she has +23,000.

- In June 2016, a STARZ producer -of all the people- was 'casually' sitting next to the happy 'couple' at a winery and took a pic. She posted it in FB, tagging all the Outlander fandom.

SHAMzie was born.

by Anonymousreply 442April 9, 2018 7:07 PM

R442 Shitshow was born.

by Anonymousreply 443April 9, 2018 7:09 PM

After raking in all that fan adoration and ca$h from the showmance you left me twisting in the wind, bitch. You owe me, big time. You have to help sell this fauxmance.

by Anonymousreply 444April 9, 2018 10:21 PM

r442. William Shatner is a key word for Sam's behaviour in the last years.

As I see it:

An actor who tried make it to HW in his beginning 30s auditioned in Hollywood. A guy, who is very addicted to his job. A professional in pimping up his body for the audience.

A guy without a driving licence, who went to audition with the public transportation service.

And tried seven or eight times to get a part in GOT.

Then went back to the UK and was struggling as an actor. Jobbed as a servant for a local caterer, close to giving up his actor career.

Then, took the chance of his life playing Jamie Fraser.

Then was hyped as the "Scottish Hunk" out of from nothing.

Invited to have an interview, by phone, with his since young time adored hero Captain Kirk, alias Shatner.

He was proud of it. He went there then. He was open to Shatner and Camuso. It was fun for him. Little did he know, that they would use them afterwards.

by Anonymousreply 445April 9, 2018 10:37 PM

Oh gays and guys.

Here we go. Long sermon, shit music.

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by Anonymousreply 446April 9, 2018 10:48 PM

This one. Just for the road

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by Anonymousreply 447April 9, 2018 10:58 PM

He went from pretty boy to gorgeous man. He just may have pulled off the hot Scot if Shat and his flunky didn't get involved, that shit was weird. Shat's shenanigans made it worse for him. He's is too deep to dig his way out..of the closet. I did feel sorry for him at one time, now, he is just a part of the circus. Sad...

by Anonymousreply 448April 9, 2018 11:19 PM

Camuso, who runs Shatner's TW acct, has it bad for Sam - way worse than any female Shipper or Shamzie ever imagined having. Only person whose Sam-fixation approaches Camuso's is D. Gabaldon.

In other news from the "And-How's-YOUR-Career-Going" department - Laura Donnelly, who plays Jenny Fraser Murray (Jamie's sister) on OL and who went to acting school with Sam, just won an Olivier Award (English TONY Award) for Best Actress in a Leading Role in a Play for her work in "The Ferryman," which also won Best Play and which is still showing in London.

Come back, Sam! Come back to the stage.

by Anonymousreply 449April 10, 2018 3:38 AM

Didn’t Heughan win an Olivier for Outlying Islands?

by Anonymousreply 450April 10, 2018 4:19 AM

Nominated in 2003 for the Olivier for "Most Promising Performer" for that play (award is no longer given); but he did not win. Apparently he wore a kilt to the ceremony. I always found that very endearing.

by Anonymousreply 451April 10, 2018 4:33 AM

30th of April, Sams birthday is already rising on the Horizont. So any advices from our side for the next JA PR move?

"Hey Viewpoint, don't you think, that it is time that gay Sam Heughan and TB collect a little bit more time in the same room then that approx. 12 hours since the end of September?

Are you running out of ideas? The LA Bagpipe shit did not work, neither the Rhones Alpes innuendo. OK, CO is already busy those days to sell the Shamzie story again. But we need new input. The pink elephant question shows up again on a lot of former Samcait blogs."

by Anonymousreply 452April 10, 2018 8:12 AM

R452 Well, his birthday is on Monday, so he should be working. Unless the production give him a day off because 1st of May. Not sure how do bank holiday work in UK. But I expect at least a photoshopped pic - they have to follow the tradition, right?

by Anonymousreply 453April 10, 2018 9:10 AM

UK mayday bank holiday will be Mon 7th May this year. Always the first Monday in May

by Anonymousreply 454April 10, 2018 12:41 PM

We can't forget those bank holidays! Are there any red carpet photocalls, fashion weeks, fan cons, helicopter rides or concerts in the park coming up? We're facing a long, dry stretch until TSWDM and OL S4 premieres. Better think fast, JA.

by Anonymousreply 455April 10, 2018 3:18 PM

Remember, it's only true love if Jared Eng says so.

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by Anonymousreply 456April 10, 2018 3:22 PM

Supposedly Finn, Sam’s nephew, has been spilling the beans about his uncle and the beard per Tumblr site SIS.

by Anonymousreply 457April 10, 2018 8:17 PM

R457 That's wrong on so many levels. He's a kid ffs

by Anonymousreply 458April 10, 2018 8:31 PM

R457 what did he say about Sam and TB?

by Anonymousreply 459April 10, 2018 8:39 PM

Because it is normal for 40+ year old women to contact minors about Sam's love life??? The tumblr fraus have lost their everlasting minds.

by Anonymousreply 460April 10, 2018 9:22 PM

(457) I don't want to sound mean, but pls. check before what (where/who) really happened, not just throwing in a sentence like that to confuse. But yes, it's disgusting behaviour from adult women to take any opportunity to get private stuff from SH/CB/TB. Those people don't know any boundaries.

by Anonymousreply 461April 10, 2018 9:31 PM

[quote]Supposedly Finn, Sam’s nephew, has been spilling the beans about his uncle and the beard per Tumblr site SIS.

Sounds like it's not something good for the SHAMzies.....xd:

[quote]p-redux answered: Good points, Anon. Regardless of whether the nephew actually DID talk to a shipper, whatever he said would not confirm Sam and Cait, because there IS NO Sam and Cait. So, either they did DM with the nephew and are misconstruing what he said, or the DM’s are faked, or there are no DMs .

by Anonymousreply 462April 10, 2018 9:44 PM

Hey guys. Calm down please. And just a small reminder. This is not tumblr.

I ve stumbled over the Finn story too. The only thing I took for me out of this story: Sam is gay.

by Anonymousreply 463April 10, 2018 9:53 PM

R457 Ok, I'll bite. Beans about what?

R463 Agreed, this is DL and only DL, but he's a kid. FFS. This is insane. Time for Uncle Sam, mom and dad to put the breaks on this. These Tumblrs need to know they are crossing a line.

by Anonymousreply 464April 10, 2018 10:20 PM

r464. But really not my problem. And probably not even ours here.

So. Lets talk about something completly different...

by Anonymousreply 465April 10, 2018 10:29 PM

[quote]I ve stumbled over the Finn story too. The only thing I took for me out of this story: Sam is gay.

Yep.

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by Anonymousreply 466April 10, 2018 10:35 PM

Sorry guys. Could not resist to have a look on one of the prior samzie tumblr.

It is getting more than absurd. This Person now claims, that it came to her knowledge days before. And that she informed persons close to gay Sam Heughan and TB in forehand? How weird is this story getting?

by Anonymousreply 467April 10, 2018 10:39 PM

R467, don't worry. That Person is the SHAMzie Queen Purv pretending to be an 'insider'.

The comment I linked at R466 about Finn, was posted weeks ago in that Brazilian tumblr.

Going back to topic. Gay Sam at his NY hotel room before the Tartan Parade:

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by Anonymousreply 468April 11, 2018 12:49 AM

Related: Same sex love songs used to be rare, but maybe in pop music, "the times they are a changin'..."

[quote]Huge gay artists such as Sir Elton John and George Michael would often sing love songs about women. Fiorenzo Palermo, a senior lecturer in popular music at Middlesex University, says: "In the particular case of the LGBTQI+ community, the practice of adopting/adapting songs" - a strategy often called "queering" - "is by and large a result of the stigma and shame that has been attached in the past to same-sex desire and the difficulty in finding popular songs that openly and explicitly expressed it."

[quote]Eve says that "LGBTQ artists and listeners are still under-represented...." "We've been revisiting George Michael's career since his death - the idea of thinking that one of the biggest stars on the planet had to be closeted is mind-boggling.... In general, I think there's a lot more to be done in terms of the creation of non-binary mainstream pop music that can be enjoyed by fans of all gender identities and sexualities."

[quote]Since Years & Years won the BBC's Sound of 2015, lead singer Olly Alexander has been refreshingly open about his sexuality.Speaking at a Stonewall event recently, he said he was advised by a media trainer not to disclose his sexuality when the band signed a record deal - but he ignored the advice. "When a journalist did ask me about my sexuality, I said 'Yes, I'm gay and this song is about a man'. I needed to say that for my 15-year old self. I needed to say to him 'Look, we are not hiding any more.'"

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by Anonymousreply 469April 11, 2018 1:02 AM

R46. Exactly on point with this thread.....all 30 of them. Sam, get out!

by Anonymousreply 470April 11, 2018 4:39 AM

I don't understand at all why the nephew is getting involved or involving himself in this mess...Didn't I read somewhere on DL that he came out as bi? Now he is helping his uncle with the whole bearding? It doesn't make any sense....

by Anonymousreply 471April 11, 2018 8:17 AM

Everything about Sam atm is ridiculous - beards, nephews, stupid spy movies. Disappointing all around.

by Anonymousreply 472April 11, 2018 9:42 AM

If this crap continues, it will ruin his chance (If any) in HW, he's not well known enough to be bankable and nearly 40. The only people that will run to see whatever bad choice movie he makes will be his devoted fans, who believe he's the "King of Men"....sad, "he coulda been a contender..."..

by Anonymousreply 473April 11, 2018 12:24 PM

[quote]If this crap continues, it will ruin his chance (If any) in HW, he's not well known enough to be bankable and nearly 40.

Tom Hiddleston is more famous than Sam but he is still recovering from the HiddleSwift PR bearding mess......

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by Anonymousreply 474April 11, 2018 7:43 PM

The Hiddleston thread says it all and echoes our conclusions: Better to remain single and be thought a homosexual than to beard and remove all doubt.

by Anonymousreply 475April 11, 2018 8:58 PM

Totally agree! He can still lead his life on the down low, and no one would care if he brought his Mom to RC events....I'd respect him more....

by Anonymousreply 476April 12, 2018 1:02 AM

He's in too deep now. He's not coming out of the closet anytime soon.

by Anonymousreply 477April 12, 2018 2:34 AM

Enty has another blind that is obviously about Sam Heughan and the beard. There was one a month ago too, from the Oscars party.

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by Anonymousreply 478April 12, 2018 3:33 AM

One thing I've always wondered; so I'll just come out and ask it: Why her? Yes, bearding is awful for many reasons; but can we put that discussion aside for now in order to ask - once the decision to beard was made - why they picked a particular person who is not pretty, talented, or charming enough to fool anyone (except for the bunch who'd self-immolate for anyone their shared psychosis told them was SH's lady-du-jour). Sam appears unable to stand her; JA seems to need the additional help of the utterly loathsome Camuso, Purv, and that Bernadette "journalist" to sell her; and has even roped in STARZ producers, OL production staff, Balfe herself, and recently SH's own nephew to try to put the scam across. Isn't HW chock-a-block with agreeable young actresses dying for a gig that would give them connections to use to further their careers? Couldn't they have found someone better from that target-rich environment?

by Anonymousreply 479April 12, 2018 5:15 AM

R479 This! Why her? Because her daddy has friends in Sony/ Starz/ Lionsgate?

by Anonymousreply 480April 12, 2018 6:03 AM

Mostly, it just looks like a budgie job.

by Anonymousreply 481April 12, 2018 7:12 AM

Maybe Sam feels he is doing what he has to do for his career and management, he is doing the absolute minimum with TB and I am sure he is aware of the fact that he's not fooling most people. I don't think he even wants to fool everyone so perhaps a "bad"beard is in this case better than a likeable and succesful one. When the bearding is over he can say they were never lovers and it will make sense to most people because they are such an unlikely match.

by Anonymousreply 482April 12, 2018 9:10 AM

Bargain basement beard, as said before Daddy has connections. I don't really care about her. I think his BF is Duncan, for reasons stated in other posts. Also, Duncan shut his TW feed down when something about "cockmunching" appeared on it. I also attended a paying event that he was at, that there were so many women (about 200)that he got flustered and had to leave (Duncan), I found it weird behavior. Many did not get to meet him as promised. They bring his character back on the show (the character dies in the book). So I think everyone from the top down is in on the selling sham for Sam. So much bullshit for a mediocre actor. Yes he's gorgeous. I'm here because the truth is here.

by Anonymousreply 483April 12, 2018 9:54 AM

Imo he's not mediocre as an actor, I think he is talented however he seems to have lost focus...

by Anonymousreply 484April 12, 2018 11:13 AM

I've seen most of the work he's done, nothing spectacular. He could be so much more if he concentrated on his craft, and put the branding of himself to the side. Many of his co-star's are winning accolades for their acting. He's being left in the PR dust. He's got the looks, he need's to build up his acting chops more than his body. Who knows he may be just happy to be where he is...imho

by Anonymousreply 485April 12, 2018 12:37 PM

R485 I agree that he is focussing on the wrong things....horrible PR indeed and being in the closet must be energy draining

by Anonymousreply 486April 12, 2018 12:49 PM

Sam is working and has steady work for a while

He is a Barbour spokesperson

He is a Tennent's spokesperson

he has a whiskey coming out

he probably has more stuff going on that we don't even know about

He has a movie coming out

He has thousands and thousands of fans

He's doing this his way because basically the only person he has to please is himself.

the only people complaining about his life are the people here and the shippers

seems to me he's doing pretty well for himself and seems relatively happy

by Anonymousreply 487April 12, 2018 12:55 PM

If it's about money and endorsment for him you'd think he's happy. To me he looks exhausted and not that happy-->the closet

by Anonymousreply 488April 12, 2018 1:33 PM

Love this list! You forgot to list his BAFTA and GG nomination!

by Anonymousreply 489April 12, 2018 1:33 PM

R489 He hasn't been nominated for a GG, and his nomination was only for Scottish BAFTA, not a big deal. He's a D list actor who happens to be beautiful. That's it

by Anonymousreply 490April 12, 2018 1:58 PM

[quote] I also attended a paying event that he was at, that there were so many women (about 200)that he got flustered and had to leave (Duncan), I found it weird behavior.

Interesting. Thanks, R483.

by Anonymousreply 491April 12, 2018 3:04 PM

R487 = Heughan's retirement planner

by Anonymousreply 492April 12, 2018 3:22 PM

The retirement planner forgot to add his major awards on his Acting resume...because that sure looks like a list of how he is branding himself. Look, I think he is gorgeous and gay. That's wonderful I wish him all the luck in the world, but he is foremost an Actor, and all of those endorsements and fans are now, not the future if he does not hone his craft.

by Anonymousreply 493April 12, 2018 5:00 PM

Once outlander ends many fans will drop away, they’re only there for Jamie and Claire. He’s making as much money now as possible with endorsements, MPC etc., which is perfectly understandable. TB is is more of a hindrance to him than a benefit. He can’t seem to act happy in her company....in the little time they actually spend together. If anything she throws a spotlight on his sexuality. For example recently posting the Easter holiday photo, you’d think first her people would speak to his people for the green light, but no and the sham is exposed. Again.

by Anonymousreply 494April 12, 2018 5:17 PM

Sam was unsuccessful actor until OL came along. Being an actor is fucked up. Unless you're Meryl Fucking Streep you can end up unemployed tomorrow. And what about gay actors? They can barely get jobs. Sam isn't stupid. He'll make as much money as he can milking the OL crazy fans while playing the hetero unicorn guy. Then who knows, he may not want to act. He can open gyms etc. and still make money. The most important part is the closeting. That must stop, not only for him, but for any person out there who feels the pressure of homophobia.

by Anonymousreply 495April 12, 2018 5:29 PM

I quite agree the closet is deep for him....and he's making all his money now, I would too. I wonder if, when it's back to reality will the Sammites follow him blindly, if he does come out? I think he is beautiful and is getting better looking with age......

by Anonymousreply 496April 12, 2018 5:44 PM

r496 to disagree. He is not ageing well, more the opposite. Remember the recent fanfic with his goldenframed glasses? His styling at the VF Party? His average, boyish look at the LA time Interview and even in this Dumped movie?

He looks good in full make up and costume and a wig, directed, filmed with all that filters, special objectivs, special camera ankles, a couple of body doubles for narrow and wide shots and A LOT of post production and VFX done. He is good basic material, no question. And he knows that, that he has to build his body. Put in the moment it mostly relies on this.

He is a Sissy and a drama Queen! Have another look on the IG from GMcT. A straight guy (Graham), Sams manly looking BF Duncan and Marina, the out and proud lesbian. Question, who is the girl in the pic?

by Anonymousreply 497April 12, 2018 6:40 PM

Hmmmm...Ok, I can see that, albeit I don't really look at other sites, just probably what is the gkosssed over pictures...

by Anonymousreply 498April 12, 2018 9:10 PM

*glossed *

by Anonymousreply 499April 12, 2018 9:11 PM

I watched an Errol Flynn and a Tyrone Power movie today. Sam reminds me of Errol . I read some where that these guys were rumored to be bi. They were not that masculine either,but played the swashbuckler, romantic lead quite well. Perhaps Sam body builds to compensate for some of effeminate qualities. Back in the 30's and 40's men were in shape .but nothing like they are expected to be now if they are in action roles. There is a lot of pressure put on these guys to keep in shape, perhaps too much. To stay closeted on top of that, tough way to live.

by Anonymousreply 500April 12, 2018 9:16 PM

You all need to get reading your OL novels. Sam bodybuilds because he must depict Jamie - a warrior with a gorgeous fit body and he never stops looking great as he ages right through towards his 60s. The whole nine books are centred on the passionate love between Jamie and Claire - that's its core plotline. So who of you are writing about Jamie being written out? Your ignorance is hilarious. The books are not the old style corset tearing things -- DG is a feminist academic who has better ways to spend her time than spend her life writing that shit. Sam's going to be going for all 9 of those books/seasons by the look of it. Because OL is booming -- audience figures were up to their highest ratings during Season 3 (see OL wiki on this); Starz has few big name shows -- OL is their 'hit'. As a subscription service they need to please the customers and guess who pays their bills? The Ladies. They are a huge demographic that has been ignored by male dominated television executives who have to sharpen up to keep Starz solvent -- and who are mending their ways to keep their jobs. Why the craze on OL? Because women love it. Women love Jane Austen period dramas. Check the airwaves. OL is a period drama. And they can easily pay for all that they love. Because they are wealthy enough to do so. That's why all the actors race off to the conventions making up to 5-6 figures for a weekend of work. Sam surely would prefer the Game of Thrones demographic, but this is making him rich, and he is beloved by OL fans. Just look at the feeds! Jamie makes their pants wet - and why shouldn't they have their fun? They just want to get off on the hot guy, and Sam is hot. They have raised millions for his charities -- and more is pouring in. These women tell hubby they will be taking the 3 week tour of Scotland with little pushback. Women decide on 85% of family income and the men go along. Season 5 and probably 6 will renew -- it's a fabulously successful show. This fact may not serve DL interests, but it serves the corporates and it serves Sam. He is very astute. Did you not see S3 Ep 1,2,3,4? The man is hugely talented. Read the reviews (like the NY Times!) and 'That's Normal' OL which OL stars love. Sam was cast into the Jamie role in just 4 days; they were stunned as he is 'perfectly cast' (see Starz OL site for the Sony casting director's comments on this). She considers him to be a very fine actor who has many good roles ahead of him. It would be good to do some basic internet research before stating such bullshit as some of you are writing. Some of you seem spiteful towards SH, and i thought you were on his side as gay men. What gives?

by Anonymousreply 501April 13, 2018 5:28 PM

*Sony thought it would be a miserable, hard search to find a 'Jamie' and shocked with the SH screen test- utterly perfect for role.

by Anonymousreply 502April 13, 2018 5:36 PM

r501. PR volunteer, allowed to publish your first sermon? Sorry. Wrong place. This is about gay Sam Heughan.

by Anonymousreply 503April 13, 2018 5:36 PM

R501 No one is disputing much of what you say about the show (though if you know much about DG, you would know that she does NOT consider herself a feminist...but that is neither here nor there).

However, has R503 posted, most of us here are not against the show or SH. We're against gay SH continuing to beard. That's all.

by Anonymousreply 504April 13, 2018 5:54 PM

SH is not getting award nominations because there is twice the competition for him against CB actress awards. He is up against absolutely everything -- HW, subscription, pay-for-view, independent originality, commercial big money films. The biggest HW names have only been nominated a few times and have a win or two under their belts. Only Meryl Streep gets the 31 nominations. Why be so harsh on SH? The guys a newcomer!

by Anonymousreply 505April 13, 2018 6:27 PM

R501, we respectfully invite you to take your Gabaldon cultist homophobic/racist/sadistic/misogynistic/Rapelander shillin’ PR flack ass the fuck outta here.

by Anonymousreply 506April 13, 2018 7:20 PM

Take the PR drivel somewhere else. Nobody here cares about That's Normal. Nice push for your tacky site though. I see the homophobes are trying to push the screwed up timeline with the beard again. No way she was with Sam in Oct of 2015. They think people can't figure this out, especially when she is in snuggly photos with Billy Magnussen in 2016 and her own birthday party in October of 2015. They are desperate to deny Sam's truth for him.

by Anonymousreply 507April 13, 2018 8:25 PM

Please more 507 and less 501.

by Anonymousreply 508April 13, 2018 8:29 PM

r501 What gives? This beautiful talented gay man is involved in one of the most bizarre bearding setups of all time, with a talentless attention-seeker who can't even photoshop competently, and who he doesn't even seem to like being in the same room with; and he has conducted a SM campaign of innuendo and teasing that has seriously detracted from where his focus should be - his acting. This is what gives. And if you think Gabaldon is a feminist, you are seriously mistaken - take it from one who is, and who is old enough to have marched for equal pay and maternity leave/child care, lesbian rights etc. She can also be racist at times (see the book treatment of Mr Willoughby) and from my own knowledge of my wonderful gay relatives and friends, she has a very strange idea of gay men - I wonder if she has ever met any (see her descriptions in Brotherhood of the Blade). And OL IS a bodice-ripper, with some time-travel, historical research and beautiful descriptive work thrown in. Don't get me wrong - I have been reading the books for years, but see them for what they essentially are - bodice-rippers with a fascinating twist. SH is a fine actor and it is great that he has been given this chance with Jamie, and some of his acting has been just superb, but he has done himself no service with his PR games - if he has been pressured into the bearding rather than making his own misguided choice on it as a means to furthering his ambitions, then that just serves to underscore the whole tragedy of bearding. SH is also very poorly served with the writing in a number of OL episodes. He has sometimes been reduced to a sidekick, undercutting the very plotline that you claim is the core of OL. As it stands at the end of Season 3, OL has become not the story of an equal and strong marriage, but of Super Claire, (which Balfe is naturally exploiting to the full). This only serves to reduce him to beefcake and further reduce his chances of any nominations, let alone awards. It is very unfair and it could well get worse as Starz pushes the strong woman barrow. Unlike most of those who watch OL, I have been interested in SH's career for many years - saw him on stage twice, followed his limited but extremely good turns on shows such as Rebus, cheered his bravery in taking on gay roles that so many others would avoid, cringed for him in the Princess movie etc. OL has indeed given him a springboard but he has got to be rather more mature with his PR if he is to bounce into the mainstream, and get the opportunities that he does so thoroughly deserve. Resorting to bearding, with such a bizarre leech, does nothing for him in the longer term - what mainstream studio heads and casting directors would want to have anything to do with that baggage? I very much doubt if anyone here feels spiteful or hateful toward SH - but some of us are very disappointed in his bearding and PR games and want this beautiful talented gay man to shine in his own light. This is what gives.

by Anonymousreply 509April 13, 2018 8:36 PM

Kudos 509! You hit the nail on the head!

by Anonymousreply 510April 13, 2018 8:41 PM

I love 509 and would add that TB is not just bad at being a beard, which she is, and which reflects badly on SH in itself. But she also has VERY negative histories with TV, HW, and theater in her own right. The People Who Matter know her, have pretty much given her a pass, and wonder WTF Sam is doing wasting his time with her (which they would wonder about even if he was straight and he and TB were a legit couple). They also know that she is a leech (as she was with Billy) and has glommed on to SH at many events, looking to advance her own pathetic career (witness her at SDCC and at the 2018 VF party -- VERY un-beardlike behavior, which netted her zilch). No one is willing to take Sam and her as a package deal; so they just pass on both.

I'm curious about the reasons behind the evolution of CB's behavior towards TB. CB started out indifferent if not oblivious to TB; then there was a time when CB actively seemed to dislike the little fraud (look at CB's face in that kitchen group SH "birthday" photo and then CB's own behavior on the RC at SDCC, when she appeared to storm off at the mere sight of TB). Now CB seems to love TB, tweeting admiring things about her. What's with THAT? If anyone thinks it helps to sell the SH/TB relationship, they're deluded. But I wonder: Why would CB do it? What's in it for her? She's already getting way more out of her association with OL than SH. So, why?

Oh, and (to 501) - if "That's Normal" is a legit TV reviewing site, I'm Rex Reed.

by Anonymousreply 511April 13, 2018 9:32 PM

I would not want to get into a long discussion here about the cast of OL and the beard, but my general take is that they are all very awkward around the subject, maybe because (this would be to their credit) they find the whole USA / HW pressure for bearding to be distasteful but they also feel protective of Sam and his career and choices. Maybe CB feels guilty because she was essentially his cover with the showmance for the first season and then she was the one who pushed for the public denial. I mean - whether they are Will & Grace type besties or not, whether she's a nice person or not, or any of OL cast - the pressure to cover up his being gay is not fundamentally coming from them; no doubt they know and are fine with him being gay. Yet they have all been forced to cover for him, on some level. All the stupid questions asked by "journalists," etc., and apparently SH or someone asked her to post that birthday photo that she knows is a lie. That has to feel a little gross. They're all part of the net now. Homophobia is warping for everyone who comes in contact with it.

by Anonymousreply 512April 13, 2018 9:59 PM

[quote]Homophobia is warping for everyone who comes in contact with it.

This ^

by Anonymousreply 513April 13, 2018 10:09 PM

I love that he advocates for and raises a lot of money for testicular cancer. Cahonas Scotland is very cheeky and their messages take some of the stigma out of addressing the subject, or subjects as it were. But then Caitriona chimes in with a "black balls" comment. Clearly innappropriate for a newly engaged woman with her co-worker. Totally okay with her gay guy friend.

by Anonymousreply 514April 14, 2018 11:07 AM

R514 I don't like Balfe, she's dimishing his charity work. I hope he stays away from her.

by Anonymousreply 515April 14, 2018 12:23 PM

Moon in Scorpio doesn't forget...

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by Anonymousreply 516April 14, 2018 3:28 PM

R515 I've never liked her much either. Claims to be all about women and respect, but her behavior doesn't match her words. And yes, she does dismiss Sam, as though she is above him. Without Sam, she would be nothing. She treats him like a boy toy.

by Anonymousreply 517April 14, 2018 4:19 PM

R515. She’s jokingly outed him occasionally

by Anonymousreply 518April 14, 2018 4:45 PM

Hey guys. Small reminder. This is thread No. 30 about gay Sam Heughan. We are not discussing opinions about Caitriona Balfe Charakter here. Plesse do this on your related tumblr blogs.

by Anonymousreply 519April 14, 2018 5:11 PM

[quote] But then Caitriona chimes in with a "black balls" comment. Clearly innappropriate for a newly engaged woman with her co-worker. Totally okay with her gay guy friend.

EXACTLY ;)

Sam is at the gym:

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by Anonymousreply 520April 14, 2018 7:40 PM

"Black balls" doesn't do much to support people with testicular cancer or the people who care about them. SH's own brother is a survivor of the disease. That's a further illustration of Balfe's essential insensitivity.

by Anonymousreply 521April 14, 2018 7:47 PM

R521 His brother? Now I understand his involvement.

by Anonymousreply 522April 14, 2018 7:52 PM

Sam Heughan himself started this with using the emoji of the pool billiard black eight for some reason, which is the last ball to play in the game. May be that was just coincidentally or posted with a purpose. Balfe jumped on that train, asking If he got black balls. I can not see any more meanings besides being blackballed...which also has his charm when used by Sam with the connection of being lucky about this.

by Anonymousreply 523April 14, 2018 8:08 PM

More Heughan at the gym...

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by Anonymousreply 524April 14, 2018 8:16 PM

I'm pretty sure Sam's estranged-for-most-of-his-life father died of a blood cancer (leukemia?), which explains SH's involvement with Bloodwise, which is a blood cancer charity founded in Britain and which has been a part of SH's My Peak Challenge charity from its inception.

On the "balls" thing, over the holidays SH does a lot of silly-serious advocating for men's self-examination featuring aptly-sized Christmas ornament balls. He has narrated a string of humorous PSA's for Cahonas Scotland encouraging men to care for their "two best friends."

by Anonymousreply 525April 14, 2018 8:18 PM

Now to something compeltly different..

Can be found as well on Shamzie tumblr as on Samcait blogs. All of them suffer of a genetical caused desease, called the "Missing the Sam Heughan is gay receptor" (MTSHIGR).

One of the symptons are described by posting gifs like that, but being unable to see the giant pink elephant in the room.

Check link for example.

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by Anonymousreply 526April 14, 2018 8:56 PM

exam. II

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by Anonymousreply 527April 14, 2018 8:58 PM

exam III

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by Anonymousreply 528April 14, 2018 8:59 PM

exam IV

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by Anonymousreply 529April 14, 2018 9:00 PM

exam V

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by Anonymousreply 530April 14, 2018 9:01 PM

exam VI

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by Anonymousreply 531April 14, 2018 9:02 PM

It's fabou gestures like those little winks, blinks, eye rolls, head wiggles, shoulder shrugs, and over-the-top grins that give it away every time. And not to suggest Sam is anything other than a gorgeous delicious, beautiful man - BUT - his pecs are WAAAAY over-developed. When your boobs are bigger than your female co-star's, it's time to switch to another part of the body; perhaps the calves???

by Anonymousreply 532April 14, 2018 9:58 PM

r532. Will probably not work for him. Just google Marfan-Syndrom. Sam shows for me a probably lighter variation of this genetical caused out of the order physical features. His long forehead, his long hands and feet, his over flexible fingers and hand ankles. Skinny calfes come also with that. He will probably not be able to build more muscles on his calfes without using stereoids. If you have a very boring night and nothing interesting on TV, than crawl thru all the TW he is following. There is a TW years ago and it is something you can connect with stereoids.

Probably.

by Anonymousreply 533April 14, 2018 10:32 PM

R514 R515 R516 R517 R521 R523 Fuck off

by Anonymousreply 534April 15, 2018 1:42 AM

Ahem r534. As I am r523. What was wrong with my post :-)

by Anonymousreply 535April 15, 2018 2:02 AM

oh look, we've progressed to medical diagnosing over the internet and without a degree.

by Anonymousreply 536April 15, 2018 2:06 AM

R534 called herself a Glasweigian who apparently has her panties in a twist over criticisms of Balfe.

by Anonymousreply 537April 15, 2018 2:20 AM

[quote]Can be found as well on Shamzie tumblr as on Samcait blogs. All of them suffer of a genetical caused desease, called the "Missing the Sam Heughan is gay receptor" (MTSHIGR).One of the symptons are described by posting gifs like that, but being unable to see the giant pink elephant in the room.

True, lol!

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by Anonymousreply 538April 15, 2018 2:21 AM

R536 = Finger-Wagging Cunt

by Anonymousreply 539April 15, 2018 2:27 AM

Twerking Sam has a message for the annoying trolls...

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by Anonymousreply 540April 15, 2018 2:45 AM

r535 oops sorry 😉

by Anonymousreply 541April 15, 2018 10:04 AM

r537 Glaswegian - yes, panties in a twist over Balfe criticisms - no. I'm not a fan. Scants in a twist over twats making comments about Balfes black balls chat being unbecoming for an engaged wummin - absofuckinlutely. Guess I'm just in mourning for the way this thread used to be 😘

by Anonymousreply 542April 15, 2018 10:12 AM

What can I say - I like beardless Sam. Look his smile at this pic, he never smiles with the beard...

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by Anonymousreply 543April 15, 2018 4:59 PM

Today, Sam is touring Scotland with his workout buddies Valbo, Bobby Maximus, Tommy Young...

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by Anonymousreply 544April 15, 2018 6:02 PM

r544. Thanks. I love his body language, when he is not directed. Watch him standing...

by Anonymousreply 545April 15, 2018 7:00 PM

That video is so quick, wondering how is he keeping his hairpiece on in that wind? Do you think he maybe got plugs?

by Anonymousreply 546April 15, 2018 8:49 PM

[quote]Today, Sam is touring Scotland with his workout buddies Valbo, Bobby Maximus, Tommy Young...

That's Peter Olivier (@bigredolivier), who's as tall as Sam, next to Tommy.

by Anonymousreply 547April 15, 2018 8:59 PM

How can you tell anything from that ; it was too quick for me. Just a follower of Sams hairline,which seems remarkably filled in lately.

by Anonymousreply 548April 15, 2018 10:47 PM

Oh. Here comes another very well documented case of suffering from the above mentioned MTSHIGR syndrom.

Posting the pic (see link below) of Sam resting his left arm on his boyfriends Duncan Lac Croix armchair at Ron D. Moore birthday party. Using this pic to explain that Sam is not with Cait, because Sam als wraps his arm not only around her chair.

Oh, by the way, have a look at the date. July 2014.

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by Anonymousreply 549April 15, 2018 10:50 PM

Hey r534, why don't you take some of your own advice.

by Anonymousreply 550April 15, 2018 11:52 PM

r550. Even you must have realized, that this DL and not tumblr. So no discussions here about, If you like Balfe or not.

We discuss gay Sam Heughan here and not the character oft Balfe. Got it? Thank you.

by Anonymousreply 551April 16, 2018 12:11 AM

Hey r551, I guess I'm the only one to go off topic, briefly. Balfe is relevant for her involvement in the charade.

Maybe we don't like your posts. Would never be so crass as to tell you to fuck off. Would scroll by.

by Anonymousreply 552April 16, 2018 12:52 AM

r552 it wasn't r551 who told you to fuck off, it was me. Sorry you were offended by the language, maybe DL isn't for you. I used to love this thread - now I only dip in and out occasionally....and this last time was just a bit too much for me. MORE tumblr nutters and, worse than that, the idea that this bloody black balls comment, on what is CLEARLY Balfes gay best friends twitter, being inappropriate for an engaged chic just took the piss for me. Get a grip hen

by Anonymousreply 553April 16, 2018 10:17 AM

Oh. Thanks for your r553 help. You are right, to much tumblr nutters here. But we survived them all up to now. And they will leave after some time.

What me made go hhmmm?. This two guys modelling for Sams ball show shirts look like a kind of lookalike of Sam an TB. What should that be for? Or just coincidence? Or I am the only one, stumbling over that? Who made this decision? Probably the PR of Cahonas.

by Anonymousreply 554April 16, 2018 11:44 AM

R553, I've been here for a few years. I don't do Tumbler. I'm fond of the word fuck, but am not in the habit of telling people I don't know to fuck off for posting on a forum. Then taking it a step further by calling me a hen? Didn't your parents teach you anything? You can be bitchy, snarky, edgy, and all of the other Uber cool things you're trying to be behind your keyboard, but still be a decent human. Back to the topic, Sam is gay. Sam should be his gay self. Sam should quit the Hollywood BS. Sam should come out of the closet. Sam needs to dump the beard.....etc, etc. You know, the approved stuff.

by Anonymousreply 555April 16, 2018 2:17 PM

JB - you're right, sorry if I offended you. For what it's worth I am a very decent human being. Also - 'hen' isn't an insult, it's a commonly used Glaswegian colloquialism in the same context as "alright love", "OK dude" - term of endearment might be pushing it but you get the jist. Likewise fuck off is used ALL the time here over a range of strengths, but I appreciate what you're saying. I'll cool it. OK back to the approved stuff. Over and out 😉

by Anonymousreply 556April 16, 2018 3:45 PM

R554 Cahonas just came up with Ballsy and MPC designed the rest. I personally believe those models are just a coincidence? otherwise the PR is more fucked up than I ever imagined.

by Anonymousreply 557April 16, 2018 4:07 PM

Those two models have as much or more chemistry than the TB and Sam.

by Anonymousreply 558April 16, 2018 4:09 PM

Sam liked this tweet....he does look close to Duncan

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by Anonymousreply 559April 16, 2018 4:12 PM

R558 true

by Anonymousreply 560April 16, 2018 4:13 PM

I am that nasty 507 person. So I am a homophobe? I have a gay son; his godfather (my good friend) is also gay with a beloved husband. You, sirs, call me names and hence are the intolerant ones. I believe Sam is gay. I also believe you are hell-bent on outing him and don't give a fig for the emotional hurt inflicted on him so you can win the argument. Why are you so hostile? Because he is beautiful and you resent him for it? Thought so.

by Anonymousreply 561April 16, 2018 4:49 PM

Hey, Nasty, @ 561, Heughan was openly gay, so nobody is outing him. That crack about resenting him for being beautiful is cunty as hell. Having gays in your life that you love doesn’t give you a free pass to bash other gays and piss all over this thread. Do us all a favor and take a fucking hike.

by Anonymousreply 562April 16, 2018 5:21 PM

Sam with his idol, Bobby Maximus.

Bobby's compliments about Sam:

[quote] "In my career I’ve had the opportunity to work with various people in the acting industry and hands down I’d put Sam as one of the fittest I’ve ever met. I’d go on record and say there’s no doubt he’s one of the fittest actors on the planet. So fit that I’d put him against almost any actor in a test of fitness. I wouldn’t even limit his level of fitness to the acting world. He can hang with anyone, in any gym, any time. It’s a testament to his work ethic and never quit attitude."

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by Anonymousreply 563April 16, 2018 6:43 PM

R506, thank you for the kind words. Now that you explained where you're from, I understand. Different words, different meanings across the pond. It probably doesn't help I am from a part of the US where we are well known for our "niceness". We are actually pretty passive aggressive! Back to the regularly scheduled topics. Sam is gay. Sam should come out. Etc.

by Anonymousreply 564April 16, 2018 7:21 PM

R563 Is he really THAT fit or this Bobby guy just had to say something lol

by Anonymousreply 565April 16, 2018 7:40 PM

R563 and R565 I believe Sam is fit(and I have much respect for his perseverance and discipline) but that extraordinarily fit?! Nah, the past few months he looks exhausted and he is nearly 40. I think Sam paid him better than any other actor Bobby has worked with. I believe the tickets for the Maximus workshop at EDA were like 500 dollar for one day.

by Anonymousreply 566April 16, 2018 9:12 PM

Sam Heughen is the fittest actor on the planet!

by Anonymousreply 567April 16, 2018 9:19 PM

r565. All this Bobby Maximus stuff is first all about business. From both sides.

Sam met him before, If I get it right, thru his working out at Roar gym in Capetown, when Sam did his forced training for his South African MH magazine title shoot. Bobby is no longer working for the Franchise Roar gym and now publishing a book which is on sell 8 of may.

So, Sam liked the working with him, adores him in a kind of ways and hired him to come to the EDA gym in Glasgow (where Sam is probably a co-owner). They had great fun.

So, Bobby is probably not lying to call Sam very fit, also in comparation to other actors he Trainer and oft cause very addicted. The legt rest is just PR for both of them.

by Anonymousreply 568April 16, 2018 9:22 PM

*sorry, spellcheck is killing me. But I hope, you'll understand my post anyway.

by Anonymousreply 569April 16, 2018 9:32 PM

I understand and l agree, Sam is fit but this thing between Bobby and him is all about money. Like I said earlier.

by Anonymousreply 570April 16, 2018 9:41 PM

r570. I also think that Sam is really adoring him and likes to share his experience with outhers. If this is coming with money for both of them. Fine. But keep it in mind.

by Anonymousreply 571April 16, 2018 9:50 PM

My son is a body builder and he considers Sam to be skinny. He was at his biggest when he was naked in the mill stream in season 1. He probably was on roids or other shit as well. He is lean now because he is training for 2 marathons. IMO

by Anonymousreply 572April 16, 2018 11:24 PM

So. Countdown to Sam's birthday on Monday 30rd April. He running the Stirling Marathon on 28th.

Prediction for bearding:

Script I: TB flying in on Friday morning via London or Amsterdam, (note for the US people, transatlantic flights are all arriving in Europe in the morning, early morning), then short connection to Glasgow. So probably TB will be there around noon.

Pap walk Friday night " all and out about" on Glasgow streets with ... Saturday, the Stirling Marathon, finishing line. TB is spotted in the audience a couple of miles before, wearing a ballsy shirt, giving her love of her life the most support. Will be a shot oft her back as usual, because it his her trade mark.

Sunday: Nothing will happen, cause Duncan is taking care of Sams sore muscles. TB will post some stock photos from famous places around Glasgow/Sterling without having a look at the actual weatherforecast or webcams.

Monday: Sams birthday. He will be on set working, may be a related post or repost on his/CB/OL/or drivers (sorry forgot, this pawn has been kicked out recently) with birthday wishes. Sam brings a cake and some bottles of whiskey.

TB is posting some thoughtful, anyway stolen poems about Taurus/Bulls illustrated with the well known Osbourne sign from Spain, additional a Hemingway quote is also possible.

Tuesday: TB is leaving Glasgow after staying at the Hotel, where the stuff knows her already, with a paycheck, which makes her a comfortable living at her parents house in Seattle, because she has not to ask for money for her next travellings in the next three months.

Script II: Following script I: The same story, but everything photoshopped or based on innuendos. No expenses for Hotels and flights. TB is having a great time with her recent fuck buudy.

Script III: Nothing will happen, besides Sam is finishing his Marathon and smashing his PS best time.

I dont know, I am still in negotiation with Jennifer Allens Viewpoint company over my last work for them.

by Anonymousreply 573April 16, 2018 11:44 PM

Something to add.

Very interesting, how this complete OL fandom is falling apart after Balfe made her engagement public.

Tumblr blogs getting private, or where just deleted.

Cold and heating wars between the samzies and samcaits. Fighting about importance highness. Culminating in production drivers (sic!) accounts getting private and finally deleted (Sams driver has surely Insider knowledge).

So Starz has a huge, very huge PR-Problem to solve:

A lead, who never denied being gay. With a beard, only hardcored fans believe in, and only for the reason to proof, that he is not with Balfe.

The still ongoing believers, that he is married to Balfe with a hidden child.

Sam is really a victim of his success. Very well paid. His interaction with Balfe on all the RC and Interview was real. He loves her and he adores her, no question. He loves and adores her and can be touchy to her like millions oft gays around the world inbetween every coulor and Religion. Balfe is his soulmate.

But nevertheless he is into men.

I am really curious, how they will solve this Problem. And, If there will be a S5.

by Anonymousreply 574April 17, 2018 1:10 AM

[quote]a Hemingway quote is also possible

Nice touch, R573.

by Anonymousreply 575April 17, 2018 1:53 AM

ECTOMORPH An ectomorph tends to be thin, and struggles to gain weight as either body fat or muscle. They can eat piles of food and stay looking the same, even when gaining muscular weight is their biggest goal. People who battle to gain muscle are often known as "hardgainers."

Ectomorphs tends to have a lean build, long limbs, and small muscle bellies. Even if an ectomorph manages to put on weight, they may still look skinnier than they are, particularly in the calves and forearms.

Being an ectomorph doesn't mean you're doomed to be weak, though. You can still get remarkably strong, and you can be every bit as fit and healthy as someone who looks larger and more muscular. But if you want to gain weight, you'd better be prepared to eat like you've never eaten before.

ECTOMORPH An ectomorph tends to be thin, and struggles to gain weight as either body fat or muscle. They can eat piles of food and stay looking the same, even when gaining muscular weight is their biggest goal. Ectomorphs tends to have a lean build, long limbs, and small muscle bellies. Even if an ectomorph manages to put on weight, they may still look skinnier than they are, particularly in the calves and forearms. Being an ectomorph doesn't mean you're doomed to be weak, though. You can still get remarkably strong, and you can be every bit as fit and healthy as someone who looks larger and more muscular. But if you want to gain weight, you'd better be prepared to eat like you've never eaten before.

by Anonymousreply 576April 17, 2018 2:43 AM

That Bobby quote was cringeworthy, made Sam look arrogant. But 35,000 fans loved it!

by Anonymousreply 577April 17, 2018 2:47 AM

Vain? Well, let's say he's just proud of us...

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by Anonymousreply 578April 17, 2018 3:04 AM

"is our Sam vain?" -- R577, haha, methinks he has some diva in him, yes ;) I agree with R572 that he's used steroids during this OL run as we've seen his physique, including his face, get bigger, and now he's back to his normal slimmer profile - which is not to doubt his hard work or his fitness or musculature, just that he's built tall and slender. He sure does love the gym (and the gym boys, no doubt).

R573 -- you have their scripts in hand! Will be interesting to see which one they use this time.

R574 -- re Starz having a huge problem to solve. This is just my opinion, and it's not a strong one, and YMMV. My take is that Starz and the production company don't see this drama as a big problem. Those shippers and shamzies, as intense and incredibly annoying as they are, number in the hundreds. There's another set of mostly younger fangirls doing fanfic and fanart. And there's Gabaldon's cult of older women that fawn over her every pronouncement. Now we're up to the low thousands of fans who are really, really invested in the books and/or show on a daily basis. That's a tiny percentage of the viewer base that has paid to see the show--a viewership that actually grew last year. The bearding is aimed at the much larger, casual group. The vast majority of them are utterly unaware that bearding is longstanding sub-industry in HW so they don't think to question the gossip sites when they google "Sam Heughan girlfriend." All of which is to say that if there isn't a S5 I don't think Sam's being gay or his or Cait's love/sex lives will be the driving factors. And I'd take the bet that there will be a renewal, mainly because the show is successful for the studio and the actors are still under contract. But I could be wrong.

by Anonymousreply 579April 17, 2018 5:13 AM

Oh yes....he is a bit vain and look also how easily he seems to be starstruck

by Anonymousreply 580April 17, 2018 9:54 AM

R573 "You have the scripts in hand"

And the SHAMzie troll #1 is again pushing the PR fuckery and lies from previous years:

It doesn't matter to her that the beard was actually dating Billy Magnussen just a few days before....xd

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by Anonymousreply 581April 17, 2018 7:28 PM

Maybe Sam cut MM loose...she hasn't liked Sam's Maximus posts -- or any of his SM lately and that's what Purv always point to as proof of their sexy true love.

by Anonymousreply 582April 17, 2018 8:30 PM

let's hope he did

by Anonymousreply 583April 17, 2018 8:40 PM

R582 I doubt it would be that easy to get rid of her, but we can hope. I guess she's waiting in the shadows with her phone filled with stock photos

by Anonymousreply 584April 17, 2018 9:23 PM

[quote]I doubt it would be that easy to get rid of her, but we can hope. I guess she's waiting in the shadows with her phone filled with stock photos.

Yes.

The beard always disappears when they need $$$ support - DVDs, charities......

by Anonymousreply 585April 17, 2018 9:37 PM

R577 I do think Sam is vain. Just look at his tone death tweet he posted in commemoration of the anniversary of the horror that was Culloden, along with a photo of Outlander shooting the Culloden battle. Or maybe he's just not that bright.

by Anonymousreply 586April 17, 2018 11:14 PM

Old interview but interesting replies.

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by Anonymousreply 587April 17, 2018 11:25 PM

All my long very thoughful stuff disappeared while trying to figure out, how to qoute...

So, now the Readers Digest variant. TB and Sam Heughan met and spent maximum 12 hours together in the same room since September 2017.

From the Samzie queens tumblr, explaining the world: Sorry, still not able to quote properly

(quote"This guy makes great music and currently doing a musical, touring it seems, so maybe Mackenzie is doing something music related with him since she’s a singer and also plays guitar. And before the haters start saying she’s dating him, NOPE—if you go to his IG you’ll see he has a girlfriend. Like someone said to me in DM, just because Mackenzie doesn’t post about everything she does, doesn’t mean she’s not working. Case in point, she guest starred in the TV Series “Gone” most recently and didn’t post one thing about it on her own IG.

And I love that she “liked” the “Fresh Out OF Fucks” post. She actually has a lot in common with Cait, Cait is not afraid to set some of the haters straight, and neither is Mackenzie…probably a reason Sam is so fond of both women. They are strong, though balanced and not over the top, since they are both Libras, while Sam is the people pleaser who doesn’t like confrontation. This combination seems to work in his costar and good friend relationship with Cait, and in his romantic real-life girlfriend relationship with Mackenzie)

by Anonymousreply 588April 18, 2018 8:19 PM

FYI - That "Gone" show TB filmed an episode of last summer in Pittsburgh was supposed to be on NBC's fall, 2017 schedule. It wasn't. They dumped it in Australia this winter, where it played to reactions that were at best "Meh." Maybe it might see the light of day as a summer replacement, but NBC in the US is unlikely to throw good money after bad for any more of it. Maybe a clue to its eventual fate was the fact that the character TB played in it was a "pop superstar." HA! Anyway, the show's fate pretty clearly demonstrates why TB "didn't post one thing about it." Why attract attention to yet another in your string of professional failures? Remember, this chick promoted the devil out of that truly terrible "Girls Night Out" TV movie she made in Canada a couple of years ago; so imagine how awful "Gone" had to be for her to ignore it!

by Anonymousreply 589April 19, 2018 2:16 AM

R588 There are not enough eyeroll emojis for that Shamzie-splaining. There’s something wrong when you have to explain and defend a relationship to this degree.

by Anonymousreply 590April 19, 2018 2:30 AM

Related: Model and actor Zander Hodgson comes out as gay.

[quote]The 27-year-old Hodgson played a gay hustler in Ray Donovan and has also appeared in British series including Eastenders and Shameless.

[quote]“When I think of all the kids out there who are being bullied or are really struggling with their sexuality, or even teenagers and adults…I just want you to know you’re not alone. There are people out there like you, and everything's going to fine, you’re going to get through this, there is going to be a better tomorrow.”

[quote]The actor said he had held back from going public with his sexuality because there were still so few out and proud actors of his age, and he feared it would stop him from being cast in the future.

[quote]Hodgson said he no longer wanted to be kept in the “prison” and he decided it was now time to just be himself and he hoped for a time in the future when coming out was a thing of the past.

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by Anonymousreply 591April 19, 2018 2:44 AM

Let's get a better look at Zander and his treasure trail before we move on...

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by Anonymousreply 592April 19, 2018 2:49 AM

[quote]TB and Sam Heughan met and spent maximum 12 hours together in the same room since September 2017.

[quote]There are not enough eyeroll emojis for that Shamzie-splaining. There’s something wrong when you have to explain and defend a relationship to this degree.

Exactly.

The SHAMzie Troll is trying to calm down her minions because her adored MM is hanging out with this guy in San Diego, Ca...;):

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by Anonymousreply 593April 19, 2018 4:32 AM

One more to add to the list of MM's guys during the two last years while -supposedly- she has been Sam's 'girlfriend'.... lol

by Anonymousreply 594April 19, 2018 4:39 AM

Maybe, and I'd love you to be right - but this is more likely part of a pre-Marathons-and-SH's-birthday PR fakeout by TB. She's pretty good at that shit. I'll give her that.

by Anonymousreply 595April 19, 2018 4:42 AM

[quote]One more to add to the list of MM's guys during the two last years while -supposedly- she has been Sam's 'girlfriend'.... lol

Billy, Jon, Alex, Jimmy.................She has a BIG heart and a GAY PR 'boyfriend' who lives in a different country.

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by Anonymousreply 596April 19, 2018 4:49 AM

Not suprised by her slutty behaviour...she takes whatever she can get.

Sam liked and RTed Duncan again....

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by Anonymousreply 597April 19, 2018 8:50 AM

Given that the beard and Sam have gone to ridiculous lengths to be seen to be “red carpet official” (how many attempts have they made?) why would she play immature innuendo games in the lead up to Sam’s birthday? I know that she’s not the smartest cookie in the jar (okay, she’s as thick as bricks) but that type of innuendo just makes her presence seem even more like bearding. If they were in a real relationship, she would just head over to Scotland without the usual SM “like” ramp up and “look at me on a plane” pictures. Not to mention that her immature games will just lead to more people disliking her.

by Anonymousreply 598April 19, 2018 11:32 AM

r598. They question is, when really being his GF, why does TB not spend her life with him every day. She can easily stay with a tourist visum at Scotland, leaving the country from time to time to renew her status a a tourist.

If TB will be seen in real life at the Marathon you can add another two hours to the 12 hours since September 2017. Sam would rarely got his birthday he is celebrating with his guy Duncan spoiled by her. Probably he is heading on the next available plane after the Marathon to spend some days off with Duncan in Southern Europe. 1st of may is a Bank holiday in the UK. So he has probably to be back on set on Wednesday.

by Anonymousreply 599April 19, 2018 12:10 PM

[quote]Sam liked and RTed Duncan again....

And in the words of the SHAMzie biggest troll, that means....

[quote] p-redux: And Whoomp, There It Is! More of Sam letting EVERYONE know WHO his REAL girlfriend is, and how much he supports her and the charity she backs. Can’t get more public or clear than an RT of Mackenzie’s Tweet for everyone to see right on Sam’s own Twitter timeline.

by Anonymousreply 600April 19, 2018 12:17 PM

It's all because she's pandering to the part of the fandom, that still believe she is his girlfriend, that he's not gay. They are all blind. Anyone can see by his behavior offscreen that he's a gorgeous gay man-child, that needs to be put in check, because he outs himself all the time.I'd turn the eye on Duncan, who I think is his BF.

by Anonymousreply 601April 19, 2018 12:23 PM

R601 I definitely see a pattern here. Both Luke and Duncan deactivated their SM accounts. Isn't that weird?

by Anonymousreply 602April 19, 2018 12:27 PM
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