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20 year old killed his gay friend by stabbing him more than 20 times after he tried to kiss him

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by Anonymousreply 160January 20, 2018 1:50 PM

Damn, pity Mark Salling is in jail. The lifetime movie with him and Chris Colfer would be gold.

by Anonymousreply 1January 17, 2018 10:24 PM

[quote]Woodward could remember neither the name nor address of his [bold]'girlfriend'[/bold], police said.

The writer must be a Datalounger

by Anonymousreply 2January 17, 2018 10:26 PM

Another day, another Trump voter committing murder!

by Anonymousreply 3January 17, 2018 10:34 PM

Just sad. Killer fucked up his own life to make a point that he's not gay. Hope it was worth it. RIP, Blaze.

by Anonymousreply 4January 17, 2018 10:34 PM

may he be dragged to the town square by his nuts and skinned alive

then have hot chicken fat oil thrown all over him..

how dare he hurt that sweet gay boy.

UNREAL HOW MEAN STR8S CAN BE !!!

by Anonymousreply 5January 17, 2018 10:36 PM

I'm dead, R1. Well done.

by Anonymousreply 6January 17, 2018 10:38 PM

They look very stereotypical.

by Anonymousreply 7January 17, 2018 10:39 PM

Openly gay men. Let be this lesson to you. So many gay men have died at the hands of some closeted gay man. These men are crazy. If you find out they are closeted, respectfully disapear from their life. You will end up dead if you don’t. There needs to be a psa. “CBS Reports The Closeted Homosexual”. We need one. Be careful.

by Anonymousreply 8January 17, 2018 10:40 PM

A girlfriend? A fight club? How straight he sounds!

What a horrible story, complete within an ironic Hobby Lobby cameo.

by Anonymousreply 9January 17, 2018 10:42 PM

Closeted gay in Orange county... Although it sounds like Bernstein was a bit of a Gossipy Gertrude so he may have been killed in retaliation. Woodward is hot though, so I see why the dead kid kept it up.

Seems weird to read this about young adults in this day and age. Shows that attitudes have not changed in some areas.

by Anonymousreply 10January 17, 2018 10:42 PM

R4, yep, and he’ll deal with a lot more than an unwanted kiss in prison. Whoo boy...

by Anonymousreply 11January 17, 2018 10:43 PM

[quote]Woodward was arrested on Friday after crime lab technicians determined that blood found on a sleeping bag in his possession belonged to Bernstein.

Well, sure, we might have laid down together on this sleeping bag that I kept for sentimental reasons...but please, I'm so so not gay

by Anonymousreply 12January 17, 2018 10:44 PM

Already a huge thread about this

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by Anonymousreply 13January 17, 2018 10:45 PM

I see the Trumpster dirtbag is trying to claim gay panic

by Anonymousreply 14January 17, 2018 10:45 PM

He kept meeting-up with Blaze, after disclosing to other "friends" he thought Blaze was romantically interested in him and yet claims he acted out in a fit of rage? Bullshit. Pre-meditated.

Evil, evil, evil...

by Anonymousreply 15January 17, 2018 10:53 PM

I don't know if it means he was gay, a lot of straight guys are willing to get their cocks sucked by anyone (or anything). If he felt like it was going to get out that he was letting another man give him blow jobs it would explain why he did it.

by Anonymousreply 16January 17, 2018 11:01 PM

R3 don't assume such BS. MANY so called liberal Democrats voting males HATE fags and are homophobic

Many many....

ESPECIALLY is they're non white straight males

by Anonymousreply 17January 17, 2018 11:05 PM

He was probably just a hate filled str8 asshole. This theory that every homophobe is a closeted homo has long outlived its usefulness. It has no place in the court of law.

by Anonymousreply 18January 17, 2018 11:05 PM

R17, it's not liberals voting for guys like Cruz, Pence, and Trump

by Anonymousreply 19January 17, 2018 11:06 PM

[quote]a lot of straight guys are willing to get their cocks sucked by anyone (or anything).

How do gay men end up with this thinking? Is it porn? Is it delusion? Is it that typical lust gay men have for straight men?

by Anonymousreply 20January 17, 2018 11:09 PM

[quote]He was probably just a hate filled str8 asshole. This theory that every homophobe is a closeted homo has long outlived its usefulness. It has no place in the court of law.

Science disagrees.

by Anonymousreply 21January 17, 2018 11:11 PM

[quote]Science disagrees.

Fuck science! Religion is the answer.

by Anonymousreply 22January 17, 2018 11:11 PM

Friends with no benefits...

by Anonymousreply 23January 17, 2018 11:12 PM

R20 it's called xtube hidden cam videos of guys going to get sucked by ugly as sin fatties..

by Anonymousreply 24January 17, 2018 11:15 PM

Yep, sure R24. Porn. 🙄🙄🙄

by Anonymousreply 25January 17, 2018 11:16 PM

It's not just an assumption r17. Take a look at the other thread to see what is known about this monster.

by Anonymousreply 26January 17, 2018 11:19 PM

R14, Gay Panic Defense is outlawed statewide in California.

The Trumpster will face life without parole in California.

by Anonymousreply 27January 17, 2018 11:20 PM

For real, Woodward and Bernstein?!

by Anonymousreply 28January 17, 2018 11:22 PM

He did all this so no one would find out he's gay. Hil-fucking-arious.

by Anonymousreply 29January 17, 2018 11:24 PM

[quote]Openly gay men. Let be this lesson to you. So many gay men have died at the hands of some closeted gay man. These men are crazy. If you find out they are closeted, respectfully disapear from their life. You will end up dead if you don’t. There needs to be a psa. “CBS Reports The Closeted Homosexual”. We need one. Be careful.

Also stay away from guys with fuhrer-black Hitlerjugen haircuts

by Anonymousreply 30January 17, 2018 11:26 PM

Agree r30. In fact, who could get it on with Simone that psychotic looking? He looks like an axe-murderer.

by Anonymousreply 31January 17, 2018 11:28 PM

"Bernstein claimed in the messages that Woodward 'hit on me', adding 'he made me promise not to tell anyone … but I have texted every one, uh oh."

What a shitty thing to do. The stupid asshole. I'm sure this is going to be used in the killer's defense. And it just might work.

by Anonymousreply 32January 17, 2018 11:34 PM

[quote] Prosecutors also revealed that Woodward returned to the scene of the crime while under police surveillance.

And all this time I thought that was just a hoary old cliche

by Anonymousreply 33January 17, 2018 11:35 PM

Woodward and Bernstein?!

by Anonymousreply 34January 17, 2018 11:37 PM

Wow, R28. Sad if you are the first one to point that out... though we should check the older thread, also.

by Anonymousreply 35January 17, 2018 11:38 PM

The killer seems to be a self loathing gay. His family religious, I'm sure didn't make him feel comfortable in his skin. If they had sex, he killed Blaze in a fit of remorse. 20 stabs is a case of over kill and where were the stabs? He rented a car so nobody would recognize him with a known homosexual. Blazes family is saying hate crime, I don't see it.

by Anonymousreply 36January 17, 2018 11:51 PM

[quote] Blazes family is saying hate crime, I don't see it.

It was a love crime?

by Anonymousreply 37January 17, 2018 11:55 PM

"The killer seems to be a self loathing gay. His family religious, I'm sure didn't make him feel comfortable in his skin"

Everyone said the same thing about the Pulse shooter Omar Matteen and it was was false. I personally would believe the family's claim than some anonymous idiot with antiquated beliefs that doesn't know shit.

Newsflash: gays are easy targets to psychopaths. Not every killer of gays is battling their own sexual demons.

by Anonymousreply 38January 18, 2018 12:07 AM

How obtuse are you, R38? Woodward 'hit on' and then subsequently repeatedly met with the victim. If he was so uncomfortable with homosexuality, why did he keep spending time with someone he knew was gay? Why were they driving around looking for secluded spots? I'm guessing Woodward killed him because he feared he was going to be outed in some way.

by Anonymousreply 39January 18, 2018 12:24 AM

[quote]He was probably just a hate filled str8 asshole.

Nope, closeted gay, gay, GAY. He initiated contact and met with Bernstein several times AFTER he claimed he hit on him. That's not what phobic straight guys do. They'd ghost the guy and cut off all contact.

by Anonymousreply 40January 18, 2018 12:34 AM

So every stab represented one thrust during anal?

by Anonymousreply 41January 18, 2018 12:38 AM

^^too soon

by Anonymousreply 42January 18, 2018 12:43 AM

r41 = premature ejaculation queen

by Anonymousreply 43January 18, 2018 12:43 AM

hope they tear his asshole up in prison and he bleeds from every hole.

by Anonymousreply 44January 18, 2018 12:43 AM

I meant *someone.

R31

by Anonymousreply 45January 18, 2018 12:49 AM

Not victim blaming but every bottom slut knows you don't go around blabbing and outing all the closet case/dl/straight/married dick you give head or give ass too . you blab and you're just asking for a beatdown:/

by Anonymousreply 46January 18, 2018 12:57 AM

People like r46 add so much to life, to the internet, to Datalounge. I wonder how old he was when his father first "wished he could have that sperm back."

by Anonymousreply 47January 18, 2018 12:59 AM

If anything, out them even more, R46. Fuck these people.

by Anonymousreply 48January 18, 2018 1:04 AM

Homosexual panic defense ?

by Anonymousreply 49January 18, 2018 1:10 AM

not admissible or valid in California ^^

by Anonymousreply 50January 18, 2018 1:13 AM

Tack on federal hate crime laws and he is looking at spending the rest of his life in prison [italic] without [/italic] the possibility of parole.

by Anonymousreply 51January 18, 2018 1:14 AM

Of course, death penalty via gas chamber is not out of the question, but highly unlikely as it has been over a decade since California has executed a prisoner.

by Anonymousreply 52January 18, 2018 1:17 AM

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by Anonymousreply 53January 18, 2018 1:25 AM

Horrible. Why do gay men think heterosexual men are gay?

by Anonymousreply 54January 18, 2018 1:29 AM

He stabbed another young man to death just because he tried to kiss him?! The last time I looked it's 2018.

The murderer likely has some same-sex feelings and other issues as well. Not safe for this guy to be in society!

by Anonymousreply 55January 18, 2018 1:33 AM

Why do R54s ask stupid questions?

by Anonymousreply 56January 18, 2018 1:34 AM

This.

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by Anonymousreply 57January 18, 2018 1:40 AM

I hope #MeToo is paying attention. This is how you handle sexual assault. Melania, I'm looking at you girl. No one on the planet would convict you. Putin might poison you, but there won't be any trial.

by Anonymousreply 58January 18, 2018 1:41 AM

You apparently didn't even read the original post, R54.

Here is the relevant piece:

"Tension between the two friends may have dated back at least to June, when Bernstein texted with two female friends about their friendship, according to a warrant affidavit reported by the OC Register. Bernstein claimed in the messages that Woodward 'hit on me', adding 'he made me promise not to tell anyone … but I have texted every one, uh oh.'"

The murdered kid is Bernstein. He unfortunately blabbed on social media to his girl friends that Woodward (the accused) "hit on him." So, if true, the accused at least had gay leanings and was the first to intimate an attraction.

by Anonymousreply 59January 18, 2018 1:47 AM

^ I shouldn't say "he blabbed on social media," as it actually only states that he texted the information.

by Anonymousreply 60January 18, 2018 1:49 AM

That's some real great logic on the part of the killer.

Closeted guy gets mad at other gay guy for outing him to a small group of girlfriends. He kills him in cold blood. Now the whole world knows he is gay instead of a small group of classmates!

by Anonymousreply 61January 18, 2018 1:50 AM

r46 is right.

I wonder why Blaze got into the car that night.

by Anonymousreply 62January 18, 2018 1:51 AM

The accused is young and foolish.

Now he's going to be young and foolish in prison.

by Anonymousreply 63January 18, 2018 1:52 AM

Woodward could have still been straight and just wanted some easy head. Bernstein should know that if you're lucky enough to score some straight dick that you keep it to yourself. Not that I'm trying to blame the victim here. Just have to be careful that a straight guy can snap anytime.

by Anonymousreply 64January 18, 2018 1:52 AM

I give this rich, Orange County brat 3 years tops of surviving in a tough prison before offing himself!

by Anonymousreply 65January 18, 2018 1:53 AM

R62 Cut him a lot of slack. The deceased was young and naïve, not knowing a great deal about life yet.

by Anonymousreply 66January 18, 2018 1:54 AM

Wasn't there a story that Sam pursued at least one other guy before Blaze? I don't really call that straight. DL maybe.

by Anonymousreply 67January 18, 2018 1:55 AM

I guess the other explanation is that Sam was intentionally targeting gay guys with the intention of fucking them up/murdering them.

by Anonymousreply 68January 18, 2018 1:57 AM

No r68 -- the affidavit said Blaze was the persuer

by Anonymousreply 69January 18, 2018 2:00 AM

R64 I was thinking that as well.

Bernstein's idea of Woodward "hitting" on him may have been overlaid with his own romantic idealism, when actually the accused just wanted someone to suck him off. But, we have no idea, at this point.

Victim was indeed very naive, unfortunately.

by Anonymousreply 70January 18, 2018 2:00 AM

"Victim was indeed very naive, unfortunately."

I wish this were true

by Anonymousreply 71January 18, 2018 2:17 AM

"If anything, out them even more."

Actually, it's quite a nasty, vindictive thing to do. I think it would make the person who was outed REALLY mad. Which results in gay guys getting beaten up, or in this case, killed. You sound pretty damn stupid.

by Anonymousreply 72January 18, 2018 2:18 AM

[quote] Which results in gay guys getting beaten up, or in this case, killed.

Yes because there is such a national epidemic of gay guys outing alt-right closet cases.

And no straight guy has ever gay bashed a victim without any provocation! Right?

by Anonymousreply 73January 18, 2018 2:20 AM

"Closeted guy gets mad at other gay guy for outing him to a small group of girlfriends. He kills him in cold blood. Now the whole world knows he is gay instead of a small group of classmates!"

It's called a "crime of passion", doofus. I'm sure that's what his defense will be. He was outed, humiliated, and he snapped. It's actually a pretty good defense. He just may get off lightly.

by Anonymousreply 74January 18, 2018 2:20 AM

Keep dreaming, R74. This is California. The killer is an alt-right Trumptard with neo-nazi and Confederate sympathies.

He is about to have the book thrown at him and the jury will sink him.

by Anonymousreply 75January 18, 2018 2:22 AM

If he were "outed" six months ago then this wasn't a crime of passion, but rather a premeditated, cold-blooded killing.

by Anonymousreply 76January 18, 2018 2:23 AM

[quote]Sheriff’s investigators were led to Woodward by entries in Bernstein’s social media accounts. In text conversations made in June, according to the affidavit, Bernstein told two female friends about his interaction with Woodward.

In one conversation, Bernstein wrote that Woodward was about to “hit on me” and “he made me promise not to tell anyone … but I have texted every one, uh oh.”

Doesn't sound that one-sided to me, R69

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by Anonymousreply 77January 18, 2018 2:25 AM

"Yes because there is such a national epidemic of gay guys outing alt-right closet cases.

And no straight guy has ever gay bashed a victim without any provocation! Right?"

There is no "epidemic of gay guys outing alt-right closet cases" because most gay guys know better than to do something like that. And nobody said that "no straight guy has ever gay bashed a victim without any provocation." But in this case there WAS provocation. The guy was outed and became enraged by it. All this the makings for a strong defense, no matter what optimistic twits like R75 and R76 say. A good slick lawyer would have a lot to work with in this case.

by Anonymousreply 78January 18, 2018 2:26 AM

And if people think that one, single pro-Confederate message is the extent of his online neo-Nazi sympathies, think again. He probably has a long history of comments and activities on websites like 4Chan, Reddit,Breitbart, etc.

Just wait until they scrub his computer and electronic devices for all of his websites, passwords and activities.

His ass is grass.

by Anonymousreply 79January 18, 2018 2:27 AM

WTF are you talking about, r70? There's no indication the victim thought they were engaged to be married or anything - it may well have just been casual sex for the both of them. R78, you think killing someone because they outed you is a good defence? Noone knows why he did it - we don't know that he found out Blaze had told friends about him, so your claim there was provacation is utter bullshit. Woodward told the police he snapped after Blaze tried to kiss him - not that he killed him because he told some friends about their sexual interaction. The victim blaming on this thread (yes, it is victim blaming) is fucking ghastly and some of you freaks should be ashamed of yourselves.

by Anonymousreply 80January 18, 2018 2:29 AM

oops, I meant provocation, not provacation

by Anonymousreply 81January 18, 2018 2:30 AM

Let R78 keep fantasizing in his own, delusional Breitbart-land.

His boy, Sam Woodward, is about to find out real soon that California juries and the justice system is not some make-believe 4Chan /pol/ "safe space," and people are not too fond of Trumptard Nazis in this state!

by Anonymousreply 82January 18, 2018 2:32 AM

The fact that this murder can't stand on its own but requires nasal braying about aspies, Nazis, depressed christian therapists in denial, Confederate flags, deplorables, and anti-semitism is pretty telling.

by Anonymousreply 83January 18, 2018 2:33 AM

Don't you worry yourself, R83. All of that will come out during the trial.

That is if your boy doesn't commit suicide first. 😘

by Anonymousreply 84January 18, 2018 2:34 AM

“he made me promise not to tell anyone … but I have texted every one, uh oh.”

"Uh oh", is right. So why did he do it? Because he thought it was funny? Because he wanted to out the guy, despite knowing he obviously did NOT wanted to be outed. Blaze sounds like he was douche.

And R80 is very naive if he thinks a lawyer couldn't make a good case in the guy's defense. It would probably be something along the lines of "he was toyed with and lied to and outed without his permission....the rage in him grew until he finally snapped. He was suffering from extreme emotional disturbance." It's they type of criminal defense that's been used many times.

By way, a person's political beliefs have no bearing in a courtroom, unless it's a hate crime. And this obviously wasn't a hate crime. The only hate was the self-loathing Woodward had for himself and his homosexuality. He certainly didn't hate little Blaze.

by Anonymousreply 85January 18, 2018 2:35 AM

He loves me. He loves me not. He loves me. He loves me not....

by Anonymousreply 86January 18, 2018 2:37 AM

[quote] By way, a person's political beliefs have no bearing in a courtroom, unless it's a hate crime. [bold]And this obviously wasn't a hate crime.[/bold]

Oh look, you moron. You're wrong yet again. Surprise, surprise!

Are you always this wrong? And this hopelessly stupid?

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by Anonymousreply 87January 18, 2018 2:41 AM

Okay, r85, name a case where a defence of 'he outed me/threatened to out me, so I killed him' has been successful.

by Anonymousreply 88January 18, 2018 2:47 AM

"Oh look, you moron. You're wrong yet again. Surprise, surprise!"

You're an imbecile. Oh I'm sure there might be an attempt to make this into a "hate crime" but it obviously wasn't one. You're really an idiot, you know that?

by Anonymousreply 89January 18, 2018 2:47 AM

Why, exactly, is it obviously not a hate crime?

by Anonymousreply 90January 18, 2018 2:50 AM

"Why, exactly, is it obviously not a hate crime?"

He wasn't killed because he was a homosexual. He was killed for outing Woodward, who most certainly did NOT want to be outed. That is not a hate crime.

by Anonymousreply 91January 18, 2018 2:52 AM

[QUOTE]All of that will come out during the trial.

That's what I keep hoping about the Joseph Comunale case. Let's hear all of the juicy details.

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by Anonymousreply 92January 18, 2018 2:53 AM

R89 can't even properly quote a post on Datalounge and he thinks he can argue the intricacies and nuances of law. 😂 I am arguing with a child or some mentally-deficient basement dwelling troll. Moving on...

by Anonymousreply 93January 18, 2018 2:55 AM

R91, provide some evidence that he killed Bernstein for outing him. You're talking out your ass. We don't know what happened to trigger the murder. If Bernstein was killed due to his sexuality then it could potentially be prosecuted as a hate crime.

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by Anonymousreply 94January 18, 2018 2:58 AM

I've noticed that mental defectives like R93 think that how you post quotes on Datalounge has some kind of bearing on what is being said. It's useless to try and talk sense to these poor creatures; they have shit for brains. Yes, it's a waste of time. Moving on...

by Anonymousreply 95January 18, 2018 2:59 AM

I wonder if the other Woodward and Bernstein were fags, too.

by Anonymousreply 96January 18, 2018 3:02 AM

Both of you are moron lawyer wanna-bes trying to argue a case when you don't have facts or evidence. Leave it to the professionals. This is way above your pay grade.

by Anonymousreply 97January 18, 2018 3:05 AM

What isn't conjecture is that Woodward is going to get ruthlessly ass-raped in prison.

I'm sure as a 20-year-old Neo-Nazi, he will have a great time in a California prison!

by Anonymousreply 98January 18, 2018 3:09 AM

R94, provide some evidence that this is a hate crime. You're talking out of your ass.

Common sense....there's not a lot of it on this thread. Obviously Woodward did NOT want his homosexuality revealed; he TOLD little Blaze "not to tell anyone." For whatever stupid reason, little Blaze decided to "text everyone." It kind of stands to reason that Woodward MIGHT get a little upset about that. It fueled his rage, and believe me, 20 stab wounds DOES indicate rage. And crimes committed in a rage do tend to be able to present a strong defense in that the person acted on impulse and that it was not planned or premeditated. I've seen it happen many times. Sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't. But it's a big help in a murder case; rage that is provoked by some kind of action perceived by the perpetrator as offensive.

by Anonymousreply 99January 18, 2018 3:09 AM

Friends close to the case in Santa Ana tell me that, no surprise, heavy drug use and alcohol were involved and contributory. The fact that Mr Bernstein's parents came out early with a statement about their son having "zero tolerance" for drugs is belied by the name of the Tumblr. As to victim blaming above, I don't care what Blaze supposedly did (kissing/outing), or whatever Mr Woodward felt or thought, stabbing someone to death (not to mention more than 20 times) is felony murder, period. He will go to prison for life. And blaming this on conservative OC (which in the last election was purple if not blue, and is increasingly so), or religion, or Trump, or similar extraneous crap is nonsense. If you are going to blame someone, start with the parents who could have, and likely should have, known their son had a problem. Maybe they did to no avail. His mom, after all, is a therapist. Either way, all that will come out at trial, if it even goes to trial. I give it 50-50 that there is a plea deal. Finally, it appears the OC cops and DA have been exceedingly cautious and thorough. Come on, the cops had stuck a tracking device on this rental car (!), and the kid was under surveillance when he revisited the scene of the crime. The cops new from Day 2, if not Day 1, who the perp was, and they let it play out for a week and hang himself.

by Anonymousreply 100January 18, 2018 3:10 AM

"I'm sure as a 20-year-old Neo-Nazi, he will have a great time in a California prison!"

If he's a Neo-Nazi he'll probably be protected in prison by just such groups as that. So all of you delightful people who are eagerly anticipating his anal rape will most likely be very disappointed.

by Anonymousreply 101January 18, 2018 3:14 AM

[quote]to victim blaming above, I don't care what Blaze supposedly did

As if what you care or don't care about has any bearing or is of any importance.

by Anonymousreply 102January 18, 2018 3:15 AM

You [italic] would [/italic] know all about Neo-Nazis in prison, R101. After all, you are the only one on here defending a Neo-Nazi murderer on here.

by Anonymousreply 103January 18, 2018 3:16 AM

R99 - that is not evidence. He texted a couple of friends; friends who may not have personally known Woodward at all. There's nothing to indicate he 'told everyone', and there's nothing to indicate Woodward knew about the texts. As I said, you're talking out your ass. Such a rage-filled act can also be plausibly presented as a hate crime. As others have said, leave the analysis to the investigative and legal professionals who are hopefully far more intelligent than you are.

by Anonymousreply 104January 18, 2018 3:16 AM

Woodward should do himself, and everybody else, a favor and just end it now. Save the state and all parties involved the expense of the trial, and the inevitable cost of housing and feeding his useless ass for the next 50 or 60 years! What a waste of a life!

by Anonymousreply 105January 18, 2018 3:20 AM

Not victim blaming but a big warning to gay guys that lust after the dl/closet cases if they let you suck them or fuck you , don't out them (even if its just a few people) and piss them off because most of them are fucking crazy!

by Anonymousreply 106January 18, 2018 3:23 AM

[quote] Not victim blaming but a big warning to gay guys that lust after the dl/closet cases if they let you suck them or fuck you , don't out them (even if its just a few people) and piss them off because most of them are fucking crazy!

Sure, NOW you tell us!

by Anonymousreply 107January 18, 2018 3:25 AM

Like those stupid Manson skanks who have been in prison since they were 20 years old, he will rot in prison! That is the existence he has to look forward to. 20 years old, the best years of his life ahead of him, and behind bars is how he will experience them!

by Anonymousreply 108January 18, 2018 3:26 AM

Except I'm not gonna lift a finger to set him free.

by Anonymousreply 109January 18, 2018 3:28 AM

Poor Blaze looks like Laura Dern

by Anonymousreply 110January 18, 2018 3:40 AM

R43

READ & OBSERVE what #43 posted for it is 100% accurate.

by Anonymousreply 111January 18, 2018 4:07 AM

I call bullshit on the "he outed/tried to kiss me, and I just snapped" defense. It looks to me like the little fascist Woodward decided it was time to go full-nazi and kill him a Jew, and poor Blaze was an easy target. Straight up premeditated (who carries a knife with them on an outing with friends?) thrill-kill.

by Anonymousreply 112January 18, 2018 4:51 AM

[quote]"Closeted guy gets mad at other gay guy for outing him to a small group of girlfriends. He kills him in cold blood. Now the whole world knows he is gay instead of a small group of classmates!"

The "Streisand Effect" taken to the ironic extreme.

by Anonymousreply 113January 18, 2018 5:00 AM

[quote]What isn't conjecture is that Woodward is going to get ruthlessly ass-raped in prison.

Well, at least he won't have to fight the same sex desires anymore, he may as well give himself over and enjoy it.

by Anonymousreply 114January 18, 2018 5:03 AM

So basically Woodward killed Bernstein because Bernstein ratted him out as a doodoo pusher?

by Anonymousreply 115January 18, 2018 5:04 AM

He broke the Golden Rule.

When messing around with straight guys, you can fool around all you want. But just don't call it gay sex

by Anonymousreply 116January 18, 2018 6:09 AM

It's funny how the people pointing out the various legal ways Woodward might be able to mount a defense in this case are getting accused of being Nazis or victim blaming etc. when all they're doing is commenting on objective reality. Versus the queens who want him to hang, who seem to be willfully ignoring reality because they don't want it to be true. Similar mentality to the Hillary haters of the alt right.

by Anonymousreply 117January 18, 2018 8:02 AM

[quote] It's funny how the people pointing out the various legal ways Woodward might be able to mount a defense in this case are getting accused of being Nazis or victim blaming etc.

Oh gee, I wonder why people might think the aforementioned troll, R101, could possibly be blaming the victim and is sympathetic to the killer?

[quote] Actually, it's quite a nasty, vindictive thing to do. I think it would make the person who was outed REALLY mad. Which results in gay guys getting beaten up, or in this case, killed.

[quote] What a shitty thing to do. The stupid asshole.

[quote] But in this case there WAS provocation. The guy was outed and became enraged by it.

[quote] If he's a Neo-Nazi he'll probably be protected in prison by just such groups as that.

by Anonymousreply 118January 18, 2018 8:09 AM

[quote]He did all this so no one would find out he's gay. Hil-fucking-arious.

I mean...this is such a dated concept. Not saying that it couldn’t happen but this all reads to me like one big-ass setup. Stabbing someone 20 times because they may out you seems…..extreme. And reaching.

Nah. Twenty times says to me “Creepy faggot wants to fuck me so I’ll play with his emotions before I end him.”

by Anonymousreply 119January 18, 2018 9:18 AM

I agree with R119 although self loathing can turn some people into raging psychos.

by Anonymousreply 120January 18, 2018 9:24 AM

I'm a straight transwoman and if a lesbian tried to kiss me I'd reply with a strong: "sorry, I'm not interested". I wouldn't get angry and try to murder her because I'm not a lesbian.

So in this case I suspect internalised homophobia or just homophobia. If you're not on the same page a kiss is just some lips being pressed against your face - it means nothing.

by Anonymousreply 121January 18, 2018 10:11 AM

Reddit rumors were that these two had a relationship in high school a few years back, & Woodward was really upset when it ended.

by Anonymousreply 122January 18, 2018 10:16 AM

R28 lmao

by Anonymousreply 123January 18, 2018 10:30 AM

I'm a sexually fluid gender non-binary free international citizen selective vegan. (apparently such ephemera are important in this discussion, R121?)

Woodward certainly did NOT kill Bernstein over an attempted kiss.

This thread title is dumb trolling.

Those 2 had some complex history and Woodward is a psycho and snapped about something small, but based on the complex history.

by Anonymousreply 124January 18, 2018 10:36 AM

Don't be a troll then (R124)

by Anonymousreply 125January 18, 2018 10:38 AM

Has it been mentioned that Woodward had Blaze's sleepingbag with blood on it?

by Anonymousreply 126January 18, 2018 2:17 PM

Woodward looks older than 20 in the photos. If you judge by some of the loonier anti-CMBYN trolls, we would be told he was at least 30.

by Anonymousreply 127January 18, 2018 2:48 PM

I think R116 might be on to something. Woodward might have killed Blaze because Blaze argued with him telling Woodward he was gay. And Woodward doesn't want to be gay. He wants to be straight and fuck guys.

by Anonymousreply 128January 18, 2018 2:49 PM

Death to goyim.

by Anonymousreply 129January 18, 2018 2:51 PM

R127 proves fans of that movie are bigots in addition to being creepers. Figures people over the moon about a movie set in a country that allied with Hitler would feel that way.

by Anonymousreply 130January 18, 2018 2:53 PM

Fake News.

White people are not homophobic and they do not commit crimes!

by Anonymousreply 131January 18, 2018 2:57 PM

Maybe at the start of the evening Woodward didn't know that Bernstein had outed him in June. Maybe Bernstein confessed to Woodward that night that he had outed him months ago. Or maybe Bernstein, thinking that Woodward didn't know about the previous outing, threatened to out Woodward face-to-face.

Are we leaning more toward premeditated execution or spontaneous crime of passion?

by Anonymousreply 132January 18, 2018 3:01 PM

I think we are leading towards foolish speculation for our own prurient thrills.

by Anonymousreply 133January 18, 2018 3:48 PM

If I had the morbid desire to date some Christian Nazi loon, or have one as fuckbuddy, I would make damn well sure somebody knows who my mystery man is in case something happens to me. No matter how many times he tells me that it has to remain a secret.

by Anonymousreply 134January 18, 2018 4:17 PM

In other words. R133, the very reason this website exists.

by Anonymousreply 135January 18, 2018 4:19 PM

Doesn't bother me for sex lives of the rich and vapid but it's pretty ghoulish when it's murder.

by Anonymousreply 136January 18, 2018 4:23 PM

Many years ago in a guy like Woodward was terrorizing gay men in Wilmington, DE. He would wait out in the parking lot of gay bars, and according to his victims he was very butch and attractive, and then drive them somewhere remote for sex. After the sex was over, he would beat them to a pulp while calling them "faggot" and "queer." It went on for several months until he was busted in an undercover sting operation by the cops.

by Anonymousreply 137January 18, 2018 4:41 PM

[quote]This thread title is dumb trolling.

Only to be expected from a thread that starts with a Daily Mail link. The other one was better, though it too got some trolls late in the game.

by Anonymousreply 138January 18, 2018 5:01 PM

"If I had the morbid desire to date some Christian Nazi loon, or have one as fuckbuddy, I would make damn well sure somebody knows who my mystery man is in case something happens to me. No matter how many times he tells me that it has to remain a secret."

Yeah, having sex with a "Christian Nazi loon" who doesn't want it known that he's gay and telling a lot of people is such a sensible safety measure.

by Anonymousreply 139January 18, 2018 6:09 PM

r139, yes, it is a sensible safety measure when you decide to hook up with strangers and shady characters. Or do you think it was justified that the guy was stabbed to death, because he couldn't keep his promise to keep their relationship a secret?

by Anonymousreply 140January 18, 2018 6:17 PM

[quote]Yeah, having sex with a "Christian Nazi loon" who doesn't want it known that he's gay and telling a lot of people is such a sensible safety measure.

Now you know why Corey Feldman wants money to name names about who ass-raped him.

by Anonymousreply 141January 18, 2018 6:24 PM

[quote]Woodward told the police he snapped after Blaze tried to kiss him

I don’t know why some of you believe this just because the killer said so. You think he wouldn’t tell a lie? He just stabbed someone to death!

by Anonymousreply 142January 18, 2018 6:41 PM

Gay panic defense needs to be outlawed and anyone who uses it should get the death penalty.

by Anonymousreply 143January 18, 2018 6:45 PM

It is outlawed, R143. In California.

by Anonymousreply 144January 18, 2018 6:47 PM

It needs to be outlawed nationwide. Hate crimes are why I not only support the death penalty, but demand it in cases where the attacks are fatal. Frankly, I'm ready to start demanding the death penalty for non-fatal hate crimes, too. To be carried out by the targets.

by Anonymousreply 145January 18, 2018 6:51 PM

Goyism is terrorism. The War on Terror is a war on goyism.

by Anonymousreply 146January 18, 2018 6:52 PM

r146 = a nut job posting to all of the Bernstein threads over and over.

by Anonymousreply 147January 18, 2018 7:09 PM

Oh, r147, r146 is just Matt spreading his vile hate speech all over the DL.

by Anonymousreply 148January 18, 2018 7:20 PM

Never EVER try to kiss a closet case, especially with his cum in your mouth.

by Anonymousreply 149January 18, 2018 8:17 PM

"He texted a couple of friends; friends who may not have personally known Woodward at all. There's nothing to indicate he 'told everyone', and there's nothing to indicate Woodward knew about the texts. As I said, you're talking out your ass."

You're talking out of YOUR ass, sweetie. Who told you he "texted a couple of friends?" How do you know whether or not they knew Woodward? His text stated and I quote, that Woodward was about to “hit on me” and “he made me promise not to tell anyone … but I have texted every one, uh oh.” He SAID he texted "every one." You don't know whether or not Woodward knew about the texts but it's likely he did. YOU are the one whose ass is talking.

by Anonymousreply 150January 18, 2018 8:28 PM

"If I had the morbid desire to date some Christian Nazi loon, or have one as fuckbuddy, I would make damn well sure somebody knows who my mystery man is in case something happens to me. No matter how many times he tells me that it has to remain a secret."

Blaze was not out to his parents, as had been rumored when he first went missing and now confirmed by a new LA Times article. I also had heard, third-hand, last week from someone who talked to a neighbor of theirs that the parents are very concerned with image and, in her opinion, the mom would not have been ok with Blaze being gay, contrary to the article/their interviews. The early rumors on reddit were that Blaze was in kind of a lockdown and that is why he had Woodward pick him up instead of using his own car and didn't use his own phone (to avoid any sort of tracking by the parents) when he went to meet Woodward.

R132 I lean more towards spontaneous since Woodward did such a crappy job of hiding the body and coming up with a cover story for the cops. He even had dirty fingernails when they interviewed him. There are isolated canyons close by to Lake Forest that Woodward could have dumped the body in and no one been the wiser for months. He left Blaze right next to a school so it seems like he came up with a plan in a panic rather than planned it out.

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by Anonymousreply 151January 19, 2018 4:11 AM

Maybe you should learn to read properly, r150. Then you might have picked this up: "Bernstein texted with two female friends about their friendship". You may think it's 'likely' Woodward knew about Bernsteins text conversations but there's nothing in the media to confirm or refute it, so all of your theorizing is just baseless speculation, but you sure sound certain for someone who knows none of the facts about what happened between those two. Again, leave the investigating to professionals who are far smarter than you (I'm starting to suspect a houseplant might have you beat for intelligence).

by Anonymousreply 152January 19, 2018 4:39 AM

R152, all of YOUR theorizing is just "baseless speculation." What make you think YOU are infinitely knowledgeable about this case? YOU "know no none of the facts about what happened between those two." Your superior attitude is quite out of place, considering how ignorant and dogmatic you are.

by Anonymousreply 153January 19, 2018 3:10 PM

Now that he is dead, Blaze's family is all pro-LGB, even to the point of wanting to pin a hate crime charge on the killer, but before, they seemed to be unhappy about Blaze's gayness, which means Blaze might have been self loathing and anti-social, too, with outing the killer,etc

by Anonymousreply 154January 19, 2018 5:32 PM

Men kill their wives and girlfriends all the time. Some men are crazy, violent and evil. I am saddened by the death of this seemingly sweet, bright young gay man, Blaze Bernstein, but I am not sure he was killed just because he was gay. The killer looks crazy and is probably a sociopath. Blake's sexual orientation probably had little to do with this crime. He befriended a killer.

by Anonymousreply 155January 19, 2018 5:42 PM

Anything new on this?

by Anonymousreply 156January 19, 2018 10:22 PM

Trump and Fox News want Hilary investigated for this. Their sure it was self defense against the Jew who was funneling money to the Clinton Foundation.

by Anonymousreply 157January 19, 2018 10:26 PM

r148 = a frau who's thankful she has her ugly hubby to fuck her. No Snapshot for her.

by Anonymousreply 158January 19, 2018 10:32 PM

Blaze was a self-loathing as SW. That is why Blaze outed him. That is why SW got mad. That is why Blaze is dead.

by Anonymousreply 159January 19, 2018 11:38 PM

When ya'd kiss me, I always used to wipe my mouth! Wipe my mouth!

by Anonymousreply 160January 20, 2018 1:50 PM
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