According to Box Office Mojo, it's only grossed $7.5M in the U.S., and I suspect it's not going much wider than is has. LADY BIRD on the other hand has grossed $37M, and it came out only a few weeks earlier.
CMBYN is a flop?
by Anonymous | reply 148 | February 13, 2018 8:02 PM |
I’m sure half of that haul is from repeated viewings by obsessed Datalounge queens.
by Anonymous | reply 1 | January 15, 2018 11:51 PM |
'Lady Bird' is in nine times the number of theaters that CMBYN is in. Not a congruent comparison.
by Anonymous | reply 2 | January 15, 2018 11:53 PM |
Arty movies never make money
by Anonymous | reply 3 | January 15, 2018 11:57 PM |
Lady Bird has been out longer.
by Anonymous | reply 4 | January 15, 2018 11:57 PM |
A gay movie for straight people who like Europe doesn't exactly command the potential audience of The Emoji Movie.
by Anonymous | reply 5 | January 15, 2018 11:58 PM |
nope, Sony Pictures is waiting for the inevitable Oscar noms to coincide with wide release. They're trying to maximize profit, not awards
by Anonymous | reply 6 | January 16, 2018 12:07 AM |
It isn’t going wide until the end of January.
I don’t expect it to gross north of 10 million.
by Anonymous | reply 7 | January 16, 2018 12:14 AM |
It won't have any problem crossing 10m at this point. It's probably headed for 15-20 million.
by Anonymous | reply 8 | January 16, 2018 12:18 AM |
[quote]and I suspect it's not going much wider than is has
Suspect? You realize this is a thing you can look up? It finally goes wide release this weekend.
by Anonymous | reply 9 | January 16, 2018 12:21 AM |
Quit your bitching when you got more exposure than [italic]God's Own Country[/italic]. And keep in mind that Sony Pictures Classics is an indie imprint of Columbia while the US distributor of GOC is Samuel Goldwyn Films, which isn't really part of a studio though MGM owned part of them at some point. Sony has more clout as a distributor, that's all.
by Anonymous | reply 10 | January 16, 2018 12:38 AM |
You never shut up about this movie, then you cry victim when not everyone is as interested in yet another have-your-cake-and-eat-it-too melodrama, especially when it comes at the expense of an actual gay romance made by a gay director without the tragic ending that was so cliché even Michael called it out in [italic]The Boys in the Band[/italic].
by Anonymous | reply 11 | January 16, 2018 12:43 AM |
CMBYN is only in 174 theaters, and that is up from 115 last week.
by Anonymous | reply 12 | January 16, 2018 12:47 AM |
At least it is doing better in the US than overseas.
by Anonymous | reply 13 | January 16, 2018 12:49 AM |
[quote] From Wikipedia--As of January 15, 2018, Call Me by Your Name has grossed $7.2 million in the United States and Canada, and $2.8 million in other territories, for a worldwide total of $10 million, against a production budget of $3.5 million.
Making $6.5 million profit since November 24, 2017 when it was released at four theaters until now in a limited release is hardly a flop. It will make a lot more when it ends up on Netflix or Hulu, and then on DVD.
by Anonymous | reply 14 | January 16, 2018 1:21 AM |
um, it's about fags, so ....
by Anonymous | reply 15 | January 16, 2018 2:07 AM |
CALL ME BY YOUR NAME HAD THE HIGHEST PER-SCREEN GROSS AVERAGE OF ANY MOVIE IN 2017! IT IS A HIT FOR INDIES.
It was not a "flop," nor was it expected to be AVENGERS at the box office, nor did it cost as much as AVENGERS, nor is it even done with its theatrical release yet.
STOP COMPARING APPLES TO ORANGES and STOP HATING ON QUALITY, GAY ART. You need to be supportive and uplifting, because these kinds of movies rarely come along.
by Anonymous | reply 16 | January 16, 2018 7:10 AM |
Timmy's collapse is complete!
by Anonymous | reply 17 | January 16, 2018 7:13 AM |
[quote] CMBYN is a flop?
Too soon to tell. Much depends on how strong is the Kevin Spacey demographic.
by Anonymous | reply 18 | January 16, 2018 7:22 AM |
No, it’s NOT a flop.
by Anonymous | reply 19 | January 16, 2018 7:28 AM |
A sexless homophobic gay movie is flopping, I couldn't be happier. GOC is the better gay movie of 2017 anyway.
by Anonymous | reply 20 | January 16, 2018 7:46 AM |
[Quote]A gay movie for straight people who like Europe
Apt description.
by Anonymous | reply 21 | January 16, 2018 7:48 AM |
R20 = tirelessly tiresome
by Anonymous | reply 22 | January 16, 2018 10:58 AM |
I may not see GOC because of r20.
by Anonymous | reply 23 | January 16, 2018 10:58 AM |
BFD
EVERYTHING that's not a superhero movie is a flop, OP. The days of "Blockbusters" have been over for quite some time now
by Anonymous | reply 24 | January 16, 2018 12:16 PM |
Big surprise: No one want to see a limp movie about two exceedingly plain looking dishrags, except blubber queens and their frau hags. Once you’ve exhausted that ticket market — *crickets*.
One day it will dawn on someone that a movie featuring smoking hot fucking lads, & which isn’t about the tired memes of coming out, first lurve, suppressed lurve, or hidden lurve, but instead features a cracking good story, might actually make money.
by Anonymous | reply 25 | January 16, 2018 12:24 PM |
"Cracking good story." LOL.
by Anonymous | reply 26 | January 16, 2018 12:30 PM |
It looks boring and the hysteria on DL about it turned me off. Also, I can't stand Timothy Chalamet's face. I'll pass.
by Anonymous | reply 27 | January 16, 2018 12:35 PM |
It's a crap movie and I wish DL would ban any further threads about it.
by Anonymous | reply 28 | January 16, 2018 12:36 PM |
Sorry to the naysayers but it's actually not a flop. The rule in Hollywood is that a movie is deemed a success if it makes at least double it's production budget at the box office. CMBYN's production budget was $3.5 million and as of Sunday has made $7.4 million at the box office. So it's already in the profit zone and hasn't even had a wide release. This isn't going to be some power house movie, it's considered a small "critical darling." Anyways Sony Classics is already taking about a sequel so clearly they're happy with it.
by Anonymous | reply 29 | January 16, 2018 12:53 PM |
R29? ZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
Nobody really cares all that much, chill.
by Anonymous | reply 30 | January 16, 2018 1:01 PM |
It’s a flop and it’s not getting a single Oscar. Deal with it, queens.
by Anonymous | reply 31 | January 16, 2018 1:11 PM |
Not trying to throw gasoline on the fire, but It sure as hell isn't "Brokeback Mountain."
Then again, maybe I am.
by Anonymous | reply 32 | January 16, 2018 1:17 PM |
Oh no! That means there won't be a sequel.
by Anonymous | reply 33 | January 16, 2018 1:17 PM |
Personally I'm fine with it flopping because I'm offended that they chose two breeders to play the roles of GAY MEN when there are dozens of fine, OUT actors from our community.
by Anonymous | reply 34 | January 16, 2018 1:30 PM |
This movie was awful. I only made it halfway through.
by Anonymous | reply 35 | January 16, 2018 1:39 PM |
What am I looking at R18??
by Anonymous | reply 36 | January 16, 2018 1:51 PM |
Love, Simon will be homo historic
by Anonymous | reply 37 | January 16, 2018 1:57 PM |
[quote]Not trying to throw gasoline on the fire, but It sure as hell isn't "Brokeback Mountain."
For which I will be eternally grateful.
by Anonymous | reply 38 | January 16, 2018 1:58 PM |
R34 yes that annoyed me too but it's because the mentality in Hollywood still is that a gay actor who plays a gay character isn't really acting.
I saw this movie last weekend and I really liked it, but I get why others might not have. It's an art house film, slow moving and there are subtitles and lets face it most DLers have a Melania level of English.
by Anonymous | reply 39 | January 16, 2018 2:28 PM |
R39 the problem is not the subtitles.
by Anonymous | reply 40 | January 16, 2018 2:48 PM |
Are all of these comments from the same bitter, lonely old queen?
by Anonymous | reply 41 | January 16, 2018 2:52 PM |
R41 I think it's one queen who is bed bound and can't get out of the house and is bitter about it!
by Anonymous | reply 42 | January 16, 2018 3:05 PM |
R41 is whining about seeing the comments while being a lonely old queen himself.
Seriously? This type of "queen" is the same insecure person who gets upset when he sees atttractive gay dudes hanging together and call them clones by default.
by Anonymous | reply 43 | January 16, 2018 4:24 PM |
Luca Guadagnino has confirmed a sequel has been green-lit with a tentative 2020 release date.
by Anonymous | reply 44 | January 17, 2018 3:56 PM |
Huzzah! ^^^
by Anonymous | reply 45 | January 17, 2018 3:59 PM |
it's because you can't tear fat twee millennials girls (intended audience for this snoozer) away from their tumblr! they aint leaving their rooms when they can "ship" timotee and armie from their beds!
by Anonymous | reply 46 | January 17, 2018 4:01 PM |
R44 I'm hesitant about a sequel only because it appears Guadagnino isn't planning on following the original intentions of the novel. He says that he wants to bring back Timothee, Armie and the rest of the cast and set it only a few years after the original film. In the novel, Oliver and Elio only meet again 15 and then 20 years later after Elio's father dies but they never resume their romance. I think a sequel in which Oliver and Elio reunite and fuck around again cheapens the ending of this movie.
by Anonymous | reply 47 | January 17, 2018 6:18 PM |
No it doesn't. A movie where Timo and Armie get it on would only enhance the story. <3
By then, the haters won't be able to say that the film looks like a father and son.
by Anonymous | reply 48 | January 17, 2018 6:35 PM |
If James Ivory is going to write the sequel than there is nothing to worry about.
by Anonymous | reply 49 | January 17, 2018 7:14 PM |
Then James had better get busy, because the human mortality table is ticking.
by Anonymous | reply 50 | January 17, 2018 7:16 PM |
Will the sequel have Armie Hammer romancing a 3-year-old?
by Anonymous | reply 51 | January 17, 2018 10:46 PM |
I hope Timmy will put one more muscle in 3 years, because I want to see a muscle butt sitting in Armie’s face for the entire movie R51
by Anonymous | reply 52 | January 17, 2018 10:50 PM |
Pussycunt versus Creepygay.
Naturally Pussycunt draws more viewers.
by Anonymous | reply 53 | January 17, 2018 11:01 PM |
[quote] It looks boring and the hysteria on DL about it turned me off. Also, I can't stand Timothy Chalamet's face. I'll pass.
R27 Those are really poor reasons not to see this movie, before seeing the movie I couldn't understand the casting of Timothée Chalamet for the part, I saw zero appeal from him for anything, but I was blown away by his acting and appeal. Not sexual appeal he does nothing for me, but he is very likable, a very good actor and he is perfect for the role, much better in the role than Hammer was in his, and I wanted to see the movie for Hammer.
If you like a touching love story, beautiful scenery of the Italian country side and good acting, then you will most likely enjoy this movie. There were dull parts of the movie, in no way did I think it was perfect, but it was very good.
by Anonymous | reply 54 | January 17, 2018 11:17 PM |
Just saw it. What a touching, coming-in-ass drama.
by Anonymous | reply 55 | January 18, 2018 1:58 AM |
There was no anal, surprise or otherwise
by Anonymous | reply 56 | January 18, 2018 2:17 AM |
Pedo trolls and GOC trolls are out in full force in this thread.
by Anonymous | reply 57 | January 18, 2018 2:34 AM |
Clash of the titans R57
by Anonymous | reply 58 | January 18, 2018 2:35 AM |
I do hope there’s a sequel: Call Me A Poz Whore.
You’ll be gripped to your seats as the boys get methed up and take no prisoners on their way to a 1,000 load weekend. Not just for Tumblr gurls, but for the Ages!
by Anonymous | reply 59 | January 18, 2018 11:22 AM |
to judge such a work of art in terms of bucks is awful.
some of you posters are pitiful with ur dragging that georgous movie across the dirt..
by Anonymous | reply 60 | January 18, 2018 11:25 AM |
[bold] 12 more days til GOC is out on DVD!!!
[/bold] Mark yo calendars, people!
by Anonymous | reply 61 | January 18, 2018 11:43 AM |
Game of Cunts?
by Anonymous | reply 62 | January 18, 2018 12:26 PM |
Lol, there will never be a sequel.
by Anonymous | reply 63 | January 18, 2018 1:00 PM |
I think the people who are saying this a pedo film are off their meds. If Elio had been a kid or like 14 or something ok but come on most people are sexually active by 17/18.
by Anonymous | reply 64 | January 18, 2018 3:23 PM |
Most people who post on DL are virgins or they haven’t gotten laid since 1988 R64
by Anonymous | reply 65 | January 18, 2018 3:35 PM |
CMBYN goes nationwide tomorrow!
by Anonymous | reply 66 | January 18, 2018 4:00 PM |
Couple of things about CMBYN's box office. With a budget of $3.5 million the box office and a domestic box office of $8 million and international of $3 million, the film is in profit territory and is Sony Picture Classic's highest grossing movie of 2017.
That being said, the film will not do the box office like other award generating films (like last year's best picture winner Moonlight which pulled in $27 million at the domestic box office) largely because of Sony Picture Classic's terrible release strategy. SPC seems to have under estimated the initial buzz surrounding the film and kept it in limited release too long. The film should have been given a wide release in November or early December when the iron was still hot. By waiting two months from its limited release to its wide release, SPC seems to have let too much of the buzz to die down and for CMBYN to get lost in the pool of other major award contenders like The Post, Lady Bird, I Tonya etc. SPC has frequently been categorized as a great film production company but a terrible distributor.
However the film can't be categorized as a flop. SPC seems happy enough with the film that they have soft green-lit a sequel for 2020.
by Anonymous | reply 67 | January 20, 2018 2:52 PM |
Unless I'm getting a cut, box office percentages bore me.
by Anonymous | reply 68 | January 20, 2018 2:56 PM |
What's the weekend projections?
by Anonymous | reply 69 | January 20, 2018 3:05 PM |
R69 Box Office mojo is estimating $2.5 million. Although it's technically now nation wide, it's actually only playing on about 800 screens which is still a limited release.
by Anonymous | reply 70 | January 20, 2018 3:37 PM |
Boring.
by Anonymous | reply 71 | January 20, 2018 3:39 PM |
Can't believe this is actually opening in my country on February 1st. I've seen the leaked screener four times now but you can bet I'll be there in the theatre, showing my support. Must be a special experience for the senses, seeing those glorious luscious trees on the big screen. I just hope the subtitles don't make me cringe the fuck out, though.
I admit I'd much rather see and support GoC in the theatre but beggars can't be choosers and all that.
by Anonymous | reply 72 | January 20, 2018 4:01 PM |
R67 Yeah I agree that Sony Classics should had the movie out in wide release before Christmas but they may have wanted the film more widely available during award season. Sony Classics has always been more of an awards powerhouse instead of a big box office generator.
Also as R72 points out the screeners were leaked during the film's prolonged limited release allow a lot of people to see it illegally.
by Anonymous | reply 73 | January 20, 2018 5:09 PM |
I wonder if certain theaters are rejecting it due to its graphic portrayal of pedophilia?
by Anonymous | reply 74 | January 20, 2018 5:16 PM |
R74 got a dictionary and an Italian law book?
by Anonymous | reply 75 | January 20, 2018 5:19 PM |
R74 you’re either a Frau or the mentally ill Matt, so your comment is to be pitied and laughed at.
by Anonymous | reply 76 | January 20, 2018 5:24 PM |
Sony Classics has always judged its movies success by the number of nominations they receive. Unlike other major distributors and studios, Sony Classics doesn't actually release it's box office numbers publicly so CMBYN's box officer numbers are estimations based on theater reports.
by Anonymous | reply 77 | January 21, 2018 12:09 AM |
Box Office Mojo is estimating the film took in $1.5 million this weekend.
by Anonymous | reply 78 | January 21, 2018 7:01 PM |
SPC’s big Oscar hopeful Call Me By Your Name had a big theater jump to 815 runs from 174 last weekend. The company also aired commercial spots in the lead-up to its nationwide near-wide expansion. Starring Timothée Chalamet and Armie Hammer, the title grossed $1,505,553, averaging $1,847, which puts it on the lower end of some of its competition with similar theater counts, though unlike the other contenders, it’s not entirely in English.
by Anonymous | reply 79 | January 22, 2018 2:54 AM |
Yes, it's a flop.
by Anonymous | reply 80 | January 22, 2018 2:59 AM |
[quote] Sorry to the naysayers but it's actually not a flop. The rule in Hollywood is that a movie is deemed a success if it makes at least double it's production budget at the box office. CMBYN's production budget was $3.5 million and as of Sunday has made $7.4 million at the box office. So it's already in the profit zone and hasn't even had a wide release. This isn't going to be some power house movie, it's considered a small "critical darling." Anyways Sony Classics is already taking about a sequel so clearly they're happy with it.
You really don't know what you're talking about. Sony gets roughly half that take at the box office. Then there's the P&A costs (marketing), which I would say are probably somewhere around $5-10m (probably on the lower end, though they will definitely increase once the film has some Oscar nominations thanks to all the ads). Plus if the film cost that little to make, you can be sure there were back end deals for Armie, Ivory and Luca, and possibly Chalamet, though he may not have gotten one that will likely kick in due to the low grosses. This means before the studio can see money, it has to pay out part of those grosses to the participants in the film. While this won't be a huge flop, it's certainly not going to bring much to the coffers of SPC.
by Anonymous | reply 81 | January 22, 2018 3:04 AM |
SPC has always been a low box office generator. CMBYN is their highest grossing 2017 release and their highest earner in terms of budget to box office since 2014's whiplash.
by Anonymous | reply 82 | January 22, 2018 3:21 AM |
That still doesn't make it a hit.
by Anonymous | reply 83 | January 22, 2018 3:33 AM |
R83 I'm not saying it's a hit what I'm saying by pure mathematics it's not a flop for SCP.
by Anonymous | reply 84 | January 22, 2018 3:46 AM |
[quote] SPC seems happy enough with the film that they have soft green-lit a sequel for 2020.
Best news I've heard all day.
by Anonymous | reply 85 | January 22, 2018 3:54 AM |
[quote] [R83] I'm not saying it's a hit what I'm saying by pure mathematics it's not a flop for SCP.
If a movie doesn't make back what was put into it by the people who financed it, then it doesn't matter how much it grossed, it's a flop.
by Anonymous | reply 86 | January 22, 2018 4:26 AM |
R86 1) The film has now made nearly 3 times it's production budget. The estimates are that Sony has spent about $1 million promoting the film which means the film has still made a profit for its investors.
by Anonymous | reply 87 | January 22, 2018 2:19 PM |
Budget: $3.5 million
Box office: $12.6 million
by Anonymous | reply 88 | January 22, 2018 2:42 PM |
Still a flop compared to DL's expectations. How many posts do we have about this movie and its actors? 3 billions?
by Anonymous | reply 89 | January 22, 2018 2:49 PM |
Then block all CMBYN threads R89, instead of whining like little bitch.
by Anonymous | reply 90 | January 22, 2018 2:52 PM |
R90 Lol, who is butthurt here? Not me.
I don't care one way or the other, I'm just noting the difference between CMBYN's BO and DL frenzie about this movie since months.
by Anonymous | reply 91 | January 22, 2018 2:56 PM |
Probably need to find another site to visit if gays creating a "frenzie" about gay movies makes you bristle.
by Anonymous | reply 92 | January 22, 2018 3:04 PM |
And once again, CMBYN comes up empty handed at an awards show.
by Anonymous | reply 93 | January 22, 2018 3:06 PM |
It doesn't have anyone famous starring in it. If I've not heard of them, they ain't famous. Yes, I said it. Ain't is a word.
by Anonymous | reply 94 | January 22, 2018 3:08 PM |
R92 Stop the booze and get to bed Timmy fan, he and Hammer won't get their Oscar.
by Anonymous | reply 95 | January 22, 2018 3:16 PM |
R91, it's a well-made gay film that some people are extremely enthusiastic about. I hadn't even heard of the novel before stumbling on a very first CMBYN thread here. It's a nice little thing but I can't say I'm blown away by either the novel or the movie. That said I get why some people love both. Things are left vague enough to let the reader or the viewer to inject their own ideas into it all.
R93, I'm fairly certain #MeToo hurt the film badly. It's just a tad too dangerous to become an awards darling right now. Same goes with box office although obviously it's doing quite well for such a small movie.
by Anonymous | reply 96 | January 22, 2018 3:17 PM |
If it had been directed by a woman it would be sweeping all the awards.
by Anonymous | reply 97 | January 22, 2018 3:19 PM |
R96 I agree that a movie about an adult man seducing a teen had no chance at the awards anyway.
by Anonymous | reply 98 | January 22, 2018 3:20 PM |
[quote] I'm fairly certain #MeToo hurt the film badly. It's just a tad too dangerous to become an awards darling right now. Same goes with box office although obviously it's doing quite well for such a small movie.
If that were true you'd see a LOT more outrage about it in social media and online essays. Face it, it was a film with limited appeal.
by Anonymous | reply 99 | January 22, 2018 3:30 PM |
I think we all should support the film. Go and see it. Films like this one are rare and deserve commercial success. If we don’t even support our own kinds, who would? Trashy DL people, your help is needed.
by Anonymous | reply 100 | January 22, 2018 3:31 PM |
I think we all should support the film. Go and see it. Films like this one are rare and deserve commercial success. If we don’t even support our own kinds, who would? Trashy DL people, your help is needed.
by Anonymous | reply 101 | January 22, 2018 3:34 PM |
[quote]If we don’t even support our own kinds
Our own kind? We are talking about that movie that stars two straight guys?
by Anonymous | reply 102 | January 22, 2018 3:51 PM |
See this is why we can't have nice gay movies because we don't support them if they don't fall into our narrow definition of what it is to be gay.
by Anonymous | reply 103 | January 22, 2018 3:53 PM |
[quote] Budget: $3.5 million Box office: $12.6 million
Can someone tell me why people willfully ignore how much money goes back to studios and financiers and pretend that because the film has grossed a little over three times its production budget, that must mean it's made a profit?
Again, for the slow kids- Domestic take usually shakes out at 50% going to the producers/financiers/studio, however you want to call it- the people who put up the money. Internationally, that number is much smaller, around 20%-25%. So that leaves an MAGR of around $5.2m give or take.
Add in P&A. The fact that the film has been open for so long means there have been several weeks of incremental spends. Perhaps SPC initially earmarked a $1m rollout media campaign, but there's no way they haven't spent more than that in the ensuing weeks. I work in marketing. $1m buys you nothing and it certainly buys you nothing for a very short amount of time. But I'll be frugal and cut my estimate of $5m in P&A in half. So now we're down to $2.7m of MAGR.
As explained before, on a film this low budget with names like James Ivory, Armie Hammer and Luca Guadagnino (and hell, let's even throw in Stuhlbarg the more that I think of it), there are going to be back end deals for them in order to get them to work for a lower salary to bring that film in at $3.5m. All likely worked for scale with a nice big back end in case the movie became a runaway hit. If it doesn't, well, they made some art and had fun in Italy for a couple months. But that money also comes out before financiers see anything back. I cannot say how much this would be, but let's say all in, 10-15% of the MAGR. That now leaves you with roughly $2.3m MAGR.
Also, there is the distinct possibility that SPC went outside to finance their P&A spend. By the looks of the number of producers on the film, this is a very likely possibility, but as I was not privy to the contracts, I won't assume that. But let's say they did. The financing entities that put up P&A are usually in the catbird seat with their investments, as they are "last money in, first money out," meaning they get paid back before the film's financing entities. So that $2.3m that's left goes to the people who put up the P&A, at best before the producers, at worst, in pari passu with them. Let's give the poor producers a break. They've worked hard. Let's make it pari passu. So that's $1.15m to the producers/financiers of the film. On an investment of $3.5m.
Part 2 continued below
by Anonymous | reply 104 | January 22, 2018 3:58 PM |
Part 2
Now, the film is poised to do decently tomorrow at the AA noms. Not gangbusters, but enough to run a good marketing campaign. That will require an additional amount of P&A, the sum of which has already likely been decided upon and has already been received from the entity(ies) financing that arm of it. And since SPC may try to do an even wider release, things are going to get expensive fast. That means nationwide commercials, not just regional, in prime time, larger print ads, larger online ads, getting the major players in front of press and tv cameras (travel costs money)... And don't forget the even larger amount of Oscar ads in the trades, which cost a fortune. If it's warranted, they will likely put up another $2.5-$5m in P&A, depending on how that first post-Oscar nom weekend shakes out at the box office. And because CMBYN isn't exactly setting the screens on fire, it's logical to assume that touting 6 nominations (as opposed to something like TSOW of 3 Billboards being able to tout 10 or 12) isn't going to be as impressive and is no guarantee to motivate a large number of people to see it. So there's little to no possibility that the film will see any profit theatrically, and will by all accounts be even deeper in the hole.
The film will likely be able to eke out a small profit when all is said and done thanks to ancillary sales. But you have to think that SPC is somewhat shocked that a movie that's been talked about like crazy for over a year, has a ton of awards buzz and great reviews, hit the theaters with a collective shrug and is virtually being ignored by every award entity (in terms of wins). This is not the way they thought things would go.
by Anonymous | reply 105 | January 22, 2018 3:58 PM |
Rent the goddamn video when it comes out.
by Anonymous | reply 106 | January 22, 2018 4:01 PM |
R106 when does it come out on VHS?
by Anonymous | reply 107 | January 22, 2018 4:03 PM |
I'm surprised it's not doing well at award shows. I thought this was supposed to be the next Brokeback Mountain or Moonlight?
Seriously, what happened? The staggered theater release can't take all the blame.
by Anonymous | reply 108 | January 22, 2018 4:07 PM |
1) "Moonlight" just happened last year. Brokeback Mountain was redeemed, the gay movie won. Back to back gay movie wins? Many voters aren't down for that.
2) The optics of 30-something looking guy having sex with a teenager is not the ideal thing in the current climate.
by Anonymous | reply 109 | January 22, 2018 4:10 PM |
3) The movie really isn't all that great.
by Anonymous | reply 110 | January 22, 2018 4:13 PM |
Let CMBYN be its own thing. It's not the next anything. It's a movie, an object of art and like people art objects should be allowed to be themselves in all their strengths and weaknesses.
by Anonymous | reply 111 | January 22, 2018 4:25 PM |
You’re making actual sense R111, free from personal agendas.
What are you doing on Datalounge?
by Anonymous | reply 112 | January 22, 2018 4:47 PM |
Bedridden with the flu. . Sorry to interrupt the "pointless bitchery"
by Anonymous | reply 113 | January 22, 2018 4:59 PM |
Feel better, oh sensible sage
by Anonymous | reply 114 | January 22, 2018 5:10 PM |
Yes CMBYN is art and for those who seen with an open mind will be talking about it forever.
But when you talk about some talk about the book and........
by Anonymous | reply 115 | January 22, 2018 5:53 PM |
I meant when you talk about movie some also talk about book and .......,.....
by Anonymous | reply 116 | January 22, 2018 5:54 PM |
Two helpings of word salad. Do you want to try a third time to construct some meaningful sentences?
by Anonymous | reply 117 | January 22, 2018 6:00 PM |
R104 & R105 Seriously, how do you have that much free time to rant about a movie's box office...use that energy to do some good in the world.
by Anonymous | reply 118 | January 22, 2018 6:01 PM |
It's opening soon in Italy!! Will it be ignored by Luca's compatriots like the rest of his films? A Bigger Splash made 100k euros at italian BO. Yes, you read that right.
by Anonymous | reply 119 | January 22, 2018 6:05 PM |
It's gay enough for me:
Gay director
Gay screenwriter
Gay composer
Gay subject matter
Gay kissing, and more...
by Anonymous | reply 120 | January 22, 2018 6:13 PM |
[quote] It took 10 minutes. Worth it to watch you fangurls have your bubbles burst. I'd be more concerned with how much time you take fantasizing that something like CMBYN would actually happen to you. This shit is your frau porn.
by Anonymous | reply 121 | January 22, 2018 6:26 PM |
That was meant for R118. I accidentally deleted the quote.
by Anonymous | reply 122 | January 22, 2018 6:27 PM |
It doesn't star (or was written or directed by) a woman, a black, or a trans. This is simply not the year for white cis men, gay or otherwise.
by Anonymous | reply 123 | January 22, 2018 6:32 PM |
I’m beginning to think it is one person bitching about grammar on the Oscar, Timmy and Armie threads.
by Anonymous | reply 124 | January 22, 2018 6:50 PM |
R123 Please stop using the word cis, it's a slur.
by Anonymous | reply 125 | January 22, 2018 8:05 PM |
The production budget was about $3.5 million however that was not the film cost Sony Classics. The film was made with support from various production companies and investors. After the film's screening at Sundance last January, Sony Classic bought the rights to the film for an estimated $5 million. So really you should ignore the $3.5 million budget because that has already been paid back to investors with profit, the film actually cost Sony Classics $5 million plus advertising which means the film really does need to make $15 million domestically to be considered a financial success.
by Anonymous | reply 126 | January 25, 2018 1:39 PM |
The only flop I want to see is Armie's massive member flopping out of his khakis.
by Anonymous | reply 127 | January 25, 2018 1:46 PM |
R126 Correct: Sony purchased the distribution rights for the film for $6 million.
by Anonymous | reply 128 | January 25, 2018 2:31 PM |
Call Me By Your Name (SPC), 815 theaters (0)/ $344K (-19%) Fri/3-day: $1.2M (-15%)/Total: $11.2M/ Wk 10
by Anonymous | reply 129 | January 28, 2018 2:30 AM |
Yikes. Well, I guess the Oscars aren't gonna help this turd. It's now OFFICIALLY a flop.
by Anonymous | reply 130 | January 29, 2018 1:25 AM |
I'm not sure $1.2 million for a weekend art picture is such a flop
by Anonymous | reply 131 | January 29, 2018 3:34 AM |
For one with all the press and major Oscar nominations it is. Every film that got major nominations got a bump at the box office this weekend except for CMBYN, Phantom Thread and Get Out. And Get Out was a vanity re-release that's already made its money and is available on disc, streaming and cable tv.
Even Lady Bird and Three Billboards, both of which have been out for nearly three months, saw box office bumps this weekend.
by Anonymous | reply 132 | January 29, 2018 5:23 AM |
I love you R34!
by Anonymous | reply 133 | January 29, 2018 5:28 AM |
It's performing very well in Italy. It was released in only 150 theaters but BO is encouraging so it'll be expanded. In its first week it made 750k euros. It's pretty good for an artsy film. A Bigger Splash made 100k total.
by Anonymous | reply 134 | January 29, 2018 12:31 PM |
R132 There are a variety of reasons why the film is likely doing lukewarm box office:
1) the subject of the film (a 17 year old with a guy who looks like he's 30) has turned people off
2) LGBT films focused on two men having sex are still niche films
3) Sony Classics films typically under perform at the box office due to minimal ad campaigns and slow release schedules. The company has long focused more on critical acclaim rather than box office profits. Its last true box office success was 2011's Midnight in Paris. It's believed that when Michael Barker and Tom Bernard (the two current heads of SPC) retire in 2020 as expected, Sony will reabsorb Classics into it's main distribution system rather than keeping it going.
The one remarkable thing is that CMBYN has earned over $11 million at the box office mostly on word of mouth. It has out grossed their last two critical darlings, Maudie and Lady in the Van, two films they promoted much more aggressively.
by Anonymous | reply 135 | January 29, 2018 1:18 PM |
Including international box office, CMBYN has now made $17.5 million
by Anonymous | reply 136 | January 29, 2018 2:14 PM |
[quote] It has out grossed their last two critical darlings, Maudie and Lady in the Van, two films they promoted much more aggressively.
Wrong. They spent nothing on those films.
by Anonymous | reply 137 | January 29, 2018 4:05 PM |
R137 I have no idea about Sony's promotional spending but I do vividly remember seeing posters for Maudie and Lady in Van and trailers in the theater for both films. I haven't seen a single poster or ad for CMBYN and I live in San Fran.
by Anonymous | reply 138 | January 29, 2018 4:39 PM |
Sony Classics has announced today that CMBYN will be available on digital platforms on Feb 27 and DVD Blu-Ray March 13.
by Anonymous | reply 139 | January 29, 2018 11:32 PM |
Rivals have been critical about the performance of Sony Pictures Classics’ Call Me By Your Name, believing that the gay romance left major cash on the table, especially with the kudos it amassed in the fall with wins at the Gotham awards (Timothee Chalamet breakthrough actor, and best feature) and wins at the National Board of Review.
Rivals believe SPC went wide too late in the pic’s run (weekend 9 at 815 venues), hence why the four Oscar-nominated pic looks to only make $14M by March 4.
Compare this to Focus Features 2005 gay western Brokeback Mountain which amassed $83M during its entire run.
by Anonymous | reply 140 | February 1, 2018 3:26 AM |
This turd dropped 234 screens this weekend and is back to 581 screens. It grossed a paltry $1m for a $1700 PSA. Its pathetic domestic gross is $12.9m.
Something called Padmaavat, which is in its 2nd week of release and ONLY on 354 screens has already grossed over $9m.
Erase that question mark. There's no doubt about it now.
by Anonymous | reply 141 | February 4, 2018 5:06 PM |
R141 Actually dropping 200+ screens and still making just over $1 million is better than I expected. This confirms to me what we already knew, the film is doing well in the major city markets but only soft interest in the film in the rest of America. The domestic box office is double what SPC put into the film (including advertising) and is making a profit.
by Anonymous | reply 142 | February 4, 2018 9:10 PM |
It's the studio's 15th highest grossing film of all time and next week will move to number 13. There's no reason why they wouldn't be happy with that.
by Anonymous | reply 143 | February 4, 2018 9:12 PM |
[quote] The domestic box office is double what SPC put into the film (including advertising) and is making a profit.
No, it isn't. Pull your head out of Timmy's ass and go read up on how a film generates revenue at the box office.
by Anonymous | reply 144 | February 4, 2018 9:15 PM |
R144 Sony keeps 45 to 50% of the domestic box office and about 25% of the international box office. General rule of thumb is a film needs to make double it's budget domestically for it to be considered a profit. As of this weekend, the film has made just under $12.9 million domestically and approx $9 million internationally. CMBYN cost Sony $6 million to purchase the distribution rights. SPC is very conservative with is advertising but lets say they spent $2 million on advertising so the film has at the very least broke even for them at this point. It's their best performing film since 2015's Still Alice ... it's fine. Yes, the could have made more box office with a better release schedule but SPC is a notorious slow and steady distributor.
by Anonymous | reply 145 | February 4, 2018 9:33 PM |
So everyone is talking about it but it's a flop OP? Are you living in the matrix?
by Anonymous | reply 146 | February 4, 2018 9:38 PM |
Sony Classics’ Call Me By Your Name, a Best Picture nominee, peaked last weekend with 815 theaters. Now in its 11th frame, the feature by Luca Guadagnino played 581 locations, grossing just over a million dollars, averaging $1,723, a bit of an uptick from last weekend’s $1,651 PTA. Call Me took in $1.34M the weekend prior and has cumed $12.94M.
by Anonymous | reply 147 | February 5, 2018 1:19 AM |
[quote]the film actually cost Sony Classics $5 million plus advertising which means the film really does need to make $15 million domestically to be considered a financial success.
As of today, the film has grossed $13 million domestically and $11 million foreign, with a total cume of $24 million. Thus, the movie is profitable and not a flop.
Incidentally ,it has grossed $2.7 million in Italy, which is way better than Luca's last film, A BIGGER SPLASH, which only grossed $189,000 there.
by Anonymous | reply 148 | February 13, 2018 8:02 PM |