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CMBYN is a flop?

According to Box Office Mojo, it's only grossed $7.5M in the U.S., and I suspect it's not going much wider than is has. LADY BIRD on the other hand has grossed $37M, and it came out only a few weeks earlier.

by Anonymousreply 148February 13, 2018 8:02 PM

I’m sure half of that haul is from repeated viewings by obsessed Datalounge queens.

by Anonymousreply 1January 15, 2018 11:51 PM

'Lady Bird' is in nine times the number of theaters that CMBYN is in. Not a congruent comparison.

by Anonymousreply 2January 15, 2018 11:53 PM

Arty movies never make money

by Anonymousreply 3January 15, 2018 11:57 PM

Lady Bird has been out longer.

by Anonymousreply 4January 15, 2018 11:57 PM

A gay movie for straight people who like Europe doesn't exactly command the potential audience of The Emoji Movie.

by Anonymousreply 5January 15, 2018 11:58 PM

nope, Sony Pictures is waiting for the inevitable Oscar noms to coincide with wide release. They're trying to maximize profit, not awards

by Anonymousreply 6January 16, 2018 12:07 AM

It isn’t going wide until the end of January.

I don’t expect it to gross north of 10 million.

by Anonymousreply 7January 16, 2018 12:14 AM

It won't have any problem crossing 10m at this point. It's probably headed for 15-20 million.

by Anonymousreply 8January 16, 2018 12:18 AM

[quote]and I suspect it's not going much wider than is has

Suspect? You realize this is a thing you can look up? It finally goes wide release this weekend.

by Anonymousreply 9January 16, 2018 12:21 AM

Quit your bitching when you got more exposure than [italic]God's Own Country[/italic]. And keep in mind that Sony Pictures Classics is an indie imprint of Columbia while the US distributor of GOC is Samuel Goldwyn Films, which isn't really part of a studio though MGM owned part of them at some point. Sony has more clout as a distributor, that's all.

by Anonymousreply 10January 16, 2018 12:38 AM

You never shut up about this movie, then you cry victim when not everyone is as interested in yet another have-your-cake-and-eat-it-too melodrama, especially when it comes at the expense of an actual gay romance made by a gay director without the tragic ending that was so cliché even Michael called it out in [italic]The Boys in the Band[/italic].

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by Anonymousreply 11January 16, 2018 12:43 AM

CMBYN is only in 174 theaters, and that is up from 115 last week.

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by Anonymousreply 12January 16, 2018 12:47 AM

At least it is doing better in the US than overseas.

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by Anonymousreply 13January 16, 2018 12:49 AM

[quote] From Wikipedia--As of January 15, 2018, Call Me by Your Name has grossed $7.2 million in the United States and Canada, and $2.8 million in other territories, for a worldwide total of $10 million, against a production budget of $3.5 million.

Making $6.5 million profit since November 24, 2017 when it was released at four theaters until now in a limited release is hardly a flop. It will make a lot more when it ends up on Netflix or Hulu, and then on DVD.

by Anonymousreply 14January 16, 2018 1:21 AM

um, it's about fags, so ....

by Anonymousreply 15January 16, 2018 2:07 AM

CALL ME BY YOUR NAME HAD THE HIGHEST PER-SCREEN GROSS AVERAGE OF ANY MOVIE IN 2017! IT IS A HIT FOR INDIES.

It was not a "flop," nor was it expected to be AVENGERS at the box office, nor did it cost as much as AVENGERS, nor is it even done with its theatrical release yet.

STOP COMPARING APPLES TO ORANGES and STOP HATING ON QUALITY, GAY ART. You need to be supportive and uplifting, because these kinds of movies rarely come along.

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by Anonymousreply 16January 16, 2018 7:10 AM

Timmy's collapse is complete!

by Anonymousreply 17January 16, 2018 7:13 AM

[quote] CMBYN is a flop?

Too soon to tell. Much depends on how strong is the Kevin Spacey demographic.

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by Anonymousreply 18January 16, 2018 7:22 AM

No, it’s NOT a flop.

by Anonymousreply 19January 16, 2018 7:28 AM

A sexless homophobic gay movie is flopping, I couldn't be happier. GOC is the better gay movie of 2017 anyway.

by Anonymousreply 20January 16, 2018 7:46 AM

[Quote]A gay movie for straight people who like Europe

Apt description.

by Anonymousreply 21January 16, 2018 7:48 AM

R20 = tirelessly tiresome

by Anonymousreply 22January 16, 2018 10:58 AM

I may not see GOC because of r20.

by Anonymousreply 23January 16, 2018 10:58 AM

BFD

EVERYTHING that's not a superhero movie is a flop, OP. The days of "Blockbusters" have been over for quite some time now

by Anonymousreply 24January 16, 2018 12:16 PM

Big surprise: No one want to see a limp movie about two exceedingly plain looking dishrags, except blubber queens and their frau hags. Once you’ve exhausted that ticket market — *crickets*.

One day it will dawn on someone that a movie featuring smoking hot fucking lads, & which isn’t about the tired memes of coming out, first lurve, suppressed lurve, or hidden lurve, but instead features a cracking good story, might actually make money.

by Anonymousreply 25January 16, 2018 12:24 PM

"Cracking good story." LOL.

by Anonymousreply 26January 16, 2018 12:30 PM

It looks boring and the hysteria on DL about it turned me off. Also, I can't stand Timothy Chalamet's face. I'll pass.

by Anonymousreply 27January 16, 2018 12:35 PM

It's a crap movie and I wish DL would ban any further threads about it.

by Anonymousreply 28January 16, 2018 12:36 PM

Sorry to the naysayers but it's actually not a flop. The rule in Hollywood is that a movie is deemed a success if it makes at least double it's production budget at the box office. CMBYN's production budget was $3.5 million and as of Sunday has made $7.4 million at the box office. So it's already in the profit zone and hasn't even had a wide release. This isn't going to be some power house movie, it's considered a small "critical darling." Anyways Sony Classics is already taking about a sequel so clearly they're happy with it.

by Anonymousreply 29January 16, 2018 12:53 PM

R29? ZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

Nobody really cares all that much, chill.

by Anonymousreply 30January 16, 2018 1:01 PM

It’s a flop and it’s not getting a single Oscar. Deal with it, queens.

by Anonymousreply 31January 16, 2018 1:11 PM

Not trying to throw gasoline on the fire, but It sure as hell isn't "Brokeback Mountain."

Then again, maybe I am.

by Anonymousreply 32January 16, 2018 1:17 PM

Oh no! That means there won't be a sequel.

by Anonymousreply 33January 16, 2018 1:17 PM

Personally I'm fine with it flopping because I'm offended that they chose two breeders to play the roles of GAY MEN when there are dozens of fine, OUT actors from our community.

by Anonymousreply 34January 16, 2018 1:30 PM

This movie was awful. I only made it halfway through.

by Anonymousreply 35January 16, 2018 1:39 PM

What am I looking at R18??

by Anonymousreply 36January 16, 2018 1:51 PM

Love, Simon will be homo historic

by Anonymousreply 37January 16, 2018 1:57 PM

[quote]Not trying to throw gasoline on the fire, but It sure as hell isn't "Brokeback Mountain."

For which I will be eternally grateful.

by Anonymousreply 38January 16, 2018 1:58 PM

R34 yes that annoyed me too but it's because the mentality in Hollywood still is that a gay actor who plays a gay character isn't really acting.

I saw this movie last weekend and I really liked it, but I get why others might not have. It's an art house film, slow moving and there are subtitles and lets face it most DLers have a Melania level of English.

by Anonymousreply 39January 16, 2018 2:28 PM

R39 the problem is not the subtitles.

by Anonymousreply 40January 16, 2018 2:48 PM

Are all of these comments from the same bitter, lonely old queen?

by Anonymousreply 41January 16, 2018 2:52 PM

R41 I think it's one queen who is bed bound and can't get out of the house and is bitter about it!

by Anonymousreply 42January 16, 2018 3:05 PM

R41 is whining about seeing the comments while being a lonely old queen himself.

Seriously? This type of "queen" is the same insecure person who gets upset when he sees atttractive gay dudes hanging together and call them clones by default.

by Anonymousreply 43January 16, 2018 4:24 PM

Luca Guadagnino has confirmed a sequel has been green-lit with a tentative 2020 release date.

by Anonymousreply 44January 17, 2018 3:56 PM

Huzzah! ^^^

by Anonymousreply 45January 17, 2018 3:59 PM

it's because you can't tear fat twee millennials girls (intended audience for this snoozer) away from their tumblr! they aint leaving their rooms when they can "ship" timotee and armie from their beds!

by Anonymousreply 46January 17, 2018 4:01 PM

R44 I'm hesitant about a sequel only because it appears Guadagnino isn't planning on following the original intentions of the novel. He says that he wants to bring back Timothee, Armie and the rest of the cast and set it only a few years after the original film. In the novel, Oliver and Elio only meet again 15 and then 20 years later after Elio's father dies but they never resume their romance. I think a sequel in which Oliver and Elio reunite and fuck around again cheapens the ending of this movie.

by Anonymousreply 47January 17, 2018 6:18 PM

No it doesn't. A movie where Timo and Armie get it on would only enhance the story. <3

By then, the haters won't be able to say that the film looks like a father and son.

by Anonymousreply 48January 17, 2018 6:35 PM

If James Ivory is going to write the sequel than there is nothing to worry about.

by Anonymousreply 49January 17, 2018 7:14 PM

Then James had better get busy, because the human mortality table is ticking.

by Anonymousreply 50January 17, 2018 7:16 PM

Will the sequel have Armie Hammer romancing a 3-year-old?

by Anonymousreply 51January 17, 2018 10:46 PM

I hope Timmy will put one more muscle in 3 years, because I want to see a muscle butt sitting in Armie’s face for the entire movie R51

by Anonymousreply 52January 17, 2018 10:50 PM

Pussycunt versus Creepygay.

Naturally Pussycunt draws more viewers.

by Anonymousreply 53January 17, 2018 11:01 PM

[quote] It looks boring and the hysteria on DL about it turned me off. Also, I can't stand Timothy Chalamet's face. I'll pass.

R27 Those are really poor reasons not to see this movie, before seeing the movie I couldn't understand the casting of Timothée Chalamet for the part, I saw zero appeal from him for anything, but I was blown away by his acting and appeal. Not sexual appeal he does nothing for me, but he is very likable, a very good actor and he is perfect for the role, much better in the role than Hammer was in his, and I wanted to see the movie for Hammer.

If you like a touching love story, beautiful scenery of the Italian country side and good acting, then you will most likely enjoy this movie. There were dull parts of the movie, in no way did I think it was perfect, but it was very good.

by Anonymousreply 54January 17, 2018 11:17 PM

Just saw it. What a touching, coming-in-ass drama.

by Anonymousreply 55January 18, 2018 1:58 AM

There was no anal, surprise or otherwise

by Anonymousreply 56January 18, 2018 2:17 AM

Pedo trolls and GOC trolls are out in full force in this thread.

by Anonymousreply 57January 18, 2018 2:34 AM

Clash of the titans R57

by Anonymousreply 58January 18, 2018 2:35 AM

I do hope there’s a sequel: Call Me A Poz Whore.

You’ll be gripped to your seats as the boys get methed up and take no prisoners on their way to a 1,000 load weekend. Not just for Tumblr gurls, but for the Ages!

by Anonymousreply 59January 18, 2018 11:22 AM

to judge such a work of art in terms of bucks is awful.

some of you posters are pitiful with ur dragging that georgous movie across the dirt..

by Anonymousreply 60January 18, 2018 11:25 AM

[bold] 12 more days til GOC is out on DVD!!!

[/bold] Mark yo calendars, people!

by Anonymousreply 61January 18, 2018 11:43 AM

Game of Cunts?

by Anonymousreply 62January 18, 2018 12:26 PM

Lol, there will never be a sequel.

by Anonymousreply 63January 18, 2018 1:00 PM

I think the people who are saying this a pedo film are off their meds. If Elio had been a kid or like 14 or something ok but come on most people are sexually active by 17/18.

by Anonymousreply 64January 18, 2018 3:23 PM

Most people who post on DL are virgins or they haven’t gotten laid since 1988 R64

by Anonymousreply 65January 18, 2018 3:35 PM

CMBYN goes nationwide tomorrow!

by Anonymousreply 66January 18, 2018 4:00 PM

Couple of things about CMBYN's box office. With a budget of $3.5 million the box office and a domestic box office of $8 million and international of $3 million, the film is in profit territory and is Sony Picture Classic's highest grossing movie of 2017.

That being said, the film will not do the box office like other award generating films (like last year's best picture winner Moonlight which pulled in $27 million at the domestic box office) largely because of Sony Picture Classic's terrible release strategy. SPC seems to have under estimated the initial buzz surrounding the film and kept it in limited release too long. The film should have been given a wide release in November or early December when the iron was still hot. By waiting two months from its limited release to its wide release, SPC seems to have let too much of the buzz to die down and for CMBYN to get lost in the pool of other major award contenders like The Post, Lady Bird, I Tonya etc. SPC has frequently been categorized as a great film production company but a terrible distributor.

However the film can't be categorized as a flop. SPC seems happy enough with the film that they have soft green-lit a sequel for 2020.

by Anonymousreply 67January 20, 2018 2:52 PM

Unless I'm getting a cut, box office percentages bore me.

by Anonymousreply 68January 20, 2018 2:56 PM

What's the weekend projections?

by Anonymousreply 69January 20, 2018 3:05 PM

R69 Box Office mojo is estimating $2.5 million. Although it's technically now nation wide, it's actually only playing on about 800 screens which is still a limited release.

by Anonymousreply 70January 20, 2018 3:37 PM

Boring.

by Anonymousreply 71January 20, 2018 3:39 PM

Can't believe this is actually opening in my country on February 1st. I've seen the leaked screener four times now but you can bet I'll be there in the theatre, showing my support. Must be a special experience for the senses, seeing those glorious luscious trees on the big screen. I just hope the subtitles don't make me cringe the fuck out, though.

I admit I'd much rather see and support GoC in the theatre but beggars can't be choosers and all that.

by Anonymousreply 72January 20, 2018 4:01 PM

R67 Yeah I agree that Sony Classics should had the movie out in wide release before Christmas but they may have wanted the film more widely available during award season. Sony Classics has always been more of an awards powerhouse instead of a big box office generator.

Also as R72 points out the screeners were leaked during the film's prolonged limited release allow a lot of people to see it illegally.

by Anonymousreply 73January 20, 2018 5:09 PM

I wonder if certain theaters are rejecting it due to its graphic portrayal of pedophilia?

by Anonymousreply 74January 20, 2018 5:16 PM

R74 got a dictionary and an Italian law book?

by Anonymousreply 75January 20, 2018 5:19 PM

R74 you’re either a Frau or the mentally ill Matt, so your comment is to be pitied and laughed at.

by Anonymousreply 76January 20, 2018 5:24 PM

Sony Classics has always judged its movies success by the number of nominations they receive. Unlike other major distributors and studios, Sony Classics doesn't actually release it's box office numbers publicly so CMBYN's box officer numbers are estimations based on theater reports.

by Anonymousreply 77January 21, 2018 12:09 AM

Box Office Mojo is estimating the film took in $1.5 million this weekend.

by Anonymousreply 78January 21, 2018 7:01 PM

SPC’s big Oscar hopeful Call Me By Your Name had a big theater jump to 815 runs from 174 last weekend. The company also aired commercial spots in the lead-up to its nationwide near-wide expansion. Starring Timothée Chalamet and Armie Hammer, the title grossed $1,505,553, averaging $1,847, which puts it on the lower end of some of its competition with similar theater counts, though unlike the other contenders, it’s not entirely in English.

by Anonymousreply 79January 22, 2018 2:54 AM

Yes, it's a flop.

by Anonymousreply 80January 22, 2018 2:59 AM

[quote] Sorry to the naysayers but it's actually not a flop. The rule in Hollywood is that a movie is deemed a success if it makes at least double it's production budget at the box office. CMBYN's production budget was $3.5 million and as of Sunday has made $7.4 million at the box office. So it's already in the profit zone and hasn't even had a wide release. This isn't going to be some power house movie, it's considered a small "critical darling." Anyways Sony Classics is already taking about a sequel so clearly they're happy with it.

You really don't know what you're talking about. Sony gets roughly half that take at the box office. Then there's the P&A costs (marketing), which I would say are probably somewhere around $5-10m (probably on the lower end, though they will definitely increase once the film has some Oscar nominations thanks to all the ads). Plus if the film cost that little to make, you can be sure there were back end deals for Armie, Ivory and Luca, and possibly Chalamet, though he may not have gotten one that will likely kick in due to the low grosses. This means before the studio can see money, it has to pay out part of those grosses to the participants in the film. While this won't be a huge flop, it's certainly not going to bring much to the coffers of SPC.

by Anonymousreply 81January 22, 2018 3:04 AM

SPC has always been a low box office generator. CMBYN is their highest grossing 2017 release and their highest earner in terms of budget to box office since 2014's whiplash.

by Anonymousreply 82January 22, 2018 3:21 AM

That still doesn't make it a hit.

by Anonymousreply 83January 22, 2018 3:33 AM

R83 I'm not saying it's a hit what I'm saying by pure mathematics it's not a flop for SCP.

by Anonymousreply 84January 22, 2018 3:46 AM

[quote] SPC seems happy enough with the film that they have soft green-lit a sequel for 2020.

Best news I've heard all day.

by Anonymousreply 85January 22, 2018 3:54 AM

[quote] [R83] I'm not saying it's a hit what I'm saying by pure mathematics it's not a flop for SCP.

If a movie doesn't make back what was put into it by the people who financed it, then it doesn't matter how much it grossed, it's a flop.

by Anonymousreply 86January 22, 2018 4:26 AM

R86 1) The film has now made nearly 3 times it's production budget. The estimates are that Sony has spent about $1 million promoting the film which means the film has still made a profit for its investors.

by Anonymousreply 87January 22, 2018 2:19 PM

Budget: $3.5 million

Box office: $12.6 million

by Anonymousreply 88January 22, 2018 2:42 PM

Still a flop compared to DL's expectations. How many posts do we have about this movie and its actors? 3 billions?

by Anonymousreply 89January 22, 2018 2:49 PM

Then block all CMBYN threads R89, instead of whining like little bitch.

by Anonymousreply 90January 22, 2018 2:52 PM

R90 Lol, who is butthurt here? Not me.

I don't care one way or the other, I'm just noting the difference between CMBYN's BO and DL frenzie about this movie since months.

by Anonymousreply 91January 22, 2018 2:56 PM

Probably need to find another site to visit if gays creating a "frenzie" about gay movies makes you bristle.

by Anonymousreply 92January 22, 2018 3:04 PM

And once again, CMBYN comes up empty handed at an awards show.

by Anonymousreply 93January 22, 2018 3:06 PM

It doesn't have anyone famous starring in it. If I've not heard of them, they ain't famous. Yes, I said it. Ain't is a word.

by Anonymousreply 94January 22, 2018 3:08 PM

R92 Stop the booze and get to bed Timmy fan, he and Hammer won't get their Oscar.

by Anonymousreply 95January 22, 2018 3:16 PM

R91, it's a well-made gay film that some people are extremely enthusiastic about. I hadn't even heard of the novel before stumbling on a very first CMBYN thread here. It's a nice little thing but I can't say I'm blown away by either the novel or the movie. That said I get why some people love both. Things are left vague enough to let the reader or the viewer to inject their own ideas into it all.

R93, I'm fairly certain #MeToo hurt the film badly. It's just a tad too dangerous to become an awards darling right now. Same goes with box office although obviously it's doing quite well for such a small movie.

by Anonymousreply 96January 22, 2018 3:17 PM

If it had been directed by a woman it would be sweeping all the awards.

by Anonymousreply 97January 22, 2018 3:19 PM

R96 I agree that a movie about an adult man seducing a teen had no chance at the awards anyway.

by Anonymousreply 98January 22, 2018 3:20 PM

[quote] I'm fairly certain #MeToo hurt the film badly. It's just a tad too dangerous to become an awards darling right now. Same goes with box office although obviously it's doing quite well for such a small movie.

If that were true you'd see a LOT more outrage about it in social media and online essays. Face it, it was a film with limited appeal.

by Anonymousreply 99January 22, 2018 3:30 PM

I think we all should support the film. Go and see it. Films like this one are rare and deserve commercial success. If we don’t even support our own kinds, who would? Trashy DL people, your help is needed.

by Anonymousreply 100January 22, 2018 3:31 PM

I think we all should support the film. Go and see it. Films like this one are rare and deserve commercial success. If we don’t even support our own kinds, who would? Trashy DL people, your help is needed.

by Anonymousreply 101January 22, 2018 3:34 PM

[quote]If we don’t even support our own kinds

Our own kind? We are talking about that movie that stars two straight guys?

by Anonymousreply 102January 22, 2018 3:51 PM

See this is why we can't have nice gay movies because we don't support them if they don't fall into our narrow definition of what it is to be gay.

by Anonymousreply 103January 22, 2018 3:53 PM

[quote] Budget: $3.5 million Box office: $12.6 million

Can someone tell me why people willfully ignore how much money goes back to studios and financiers and pretend that because the film has grossed a little over three times its production budget, that must mean it's made a profit?

Again, for the slow kids- Domestic take usually shakes out at 50% going to the producers/financiers/studio, however you want to call it- the people who put up the money. Internationally, that number is much smaller, around 20%-25%. So that leaves an MAGR of around $5.2m give or take.

Add in P&A. The fact that the film has been open for so long means there have been several weeks of incremental spends. Perhaps SPC initially earmarked a $1m rollout media campaign, but there's no way they haven't spent more than that in the ensuing weeks. I work in marketing. $1m buys you nothing and it certainly buys you nothing for a very short amount of time. But I'll be frugal and cut my estimate of $5m in P&A in half. So now we're down to $2.7m of MAGR.

As explained before, on a film this low budget with names like James Ivory, Armie Hammer and Luca Guadagnino (and hell, let's even throw in Stuhlbarg the more that I think of it), there are going to be back end deals for them in order to get them to work for a lower salary to bring that film in at $3.5m. All likely worked for scale with a nice big back end in case the movie became a runaway hit. If it doesn't, well, they made some art and had fun in Italy for a couple months. But that money also comes out before financiers see anything back. I cannot say how much this would be, but let's say all in, 10-15% of the MAGR. That now leaves you with roughly $2.3m MAGR.

Also, there is the distinct possibility that SPC went outside to finance their P&A spend. By the looks of the number of producers on the film, this is a very likely possibility, but as I was not privy to the contracts, I won't assume that. But let's say they did. The financing entities that put up P&A are usually in the catbird seat with their investments, as they are "last money in, first money out," meaning they get paid back before the film's financing entities. So that $2.3m that's left goes to the people who put up the P&A, at best before the producers, at worst, in pari passu with them. Let's give the poor producers a break. They've worked hard. Let's make it pari passu. So that's $1.15m to the producers/financiers of the film. On an investment of $3.5m.

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by Anonymousreply 104January 22, 2018 3:58 PM

Part 2

Now, the film is poised to do decently tomorrow at the AA noms. Not gangbusters, but enough to run a good marketing campaign. That will require an additional amount of P&A, the sum of which has already likely been decided upon and has already been received from the entity(ies) financing that arm of it. And since SPC may try to do an even wider release, things are going to get expensive fast. That means nationwide commercials, not just regional, in prime time, larger print ads, larger online ads, getting the major players in front of press and tv cameras (travel costs money)... And don't forget the even larger amount of Oscar ads in the trades, which cost a fortune. If it's warranted, they will likely put up another $2.5-$5m in P&A, depending on how that first post-Oscar nom weekend shakes out at the box office. And because CMBYN isn't exactly setting the screens on fire, it's logical to assume that touting 6 nominations (as opposed to something like TSOW of 3 Billboards being able to tout 10 or 12) isn't going to be as impressive and is no guarantee to motivate a large number of people to see it. So there's little to no possibility that the film will see any profit theatrically, and will by all accounts be even deeper in the hole.

The film will likely be able to eke out a small profit when all is said and done thanks to ancillary sales. But you have to think that SPC is somewhat shocked that a movie that's been talked about like crazy for over a year, has a ton of awards buzz and great reviews, hit the theaters with a collective shrug and is virtually being ignored by every award entity (in terms of wins). This is not the way they thought things would go.

by Anonymousreply 105January 22, 2018 3:58 PM

Rent the goddamn video when it comes out.

by Anonymousreply 106January 22, 2018 4:01 PM

R106 when does it come out on VHS?

by Anonymousreply 107January 22, 2018 4:03 PM

I'm surprised it's not doing well at award shows. I thought this was supposed to be the next Brokeback Mountain or Moonlight?

Seriously, what happened? The staggered theater release can't take all the blame.

by Anonymousreply 108January 22, 2018 4:07 PM

1) "Moonlight" just happened last year. Brokeback Mountain was redeemed, the gay movie won. Back to back gay movie wins? Many voters aren't down for that.

2) The optics of 30-something looking guy having sex with a teenager is not the ideal thing in the current climate.

by Anonymousreply 109January 22, 2018 4:10 PM

3) The movie really isn't all that great.

by Anonymousreply 110January 22, 2018 4:13 PM

Let CMBYN be its own thing. It's not the next anything. It's a movie, an object of art and like people art objects should be allowed to be themselves in all their strengths and weaknesses.

by Anonymousreply 111January 22, 2018 4:25 PM

You’re making actual sense R111, free from personal agendas.

What are you doing on Datalounge?

by Anonymousreply 112January 22, 2018 4:47 PM

Bedridden with the flu. . Sorry to interrupt the "pointless bitchery"

by Anonymousreply 113January 22, 2018 4:59 PM

Feel better, oh sensible sage

by Anonymousreply 114January 22, 2018 5:10 PM

Yes CMBYN is art and for those who seen with an open mind will be talking about it forever.

But when you talk about some talk about the book and........

by Anonymousreply 115January 22, 2018 5:53 PM

I meant when you talk about movie some also talk about book and .......,.....

by Anonymousreply 116January 22, 2018 5:54 PM

Two helpings of word salad. Do you want to try a third time to construct some meaningful sentences?

by Anonymousreply 117January 22, 2018 6:00 PM

R104 & R105 Seriously, how do you have that much free time to rant about a movie's box office...use that energy to do some good in the world.

by Anonymousreply 118January 22, 2018 6:01 PM

It's opening soon in Italy!! Will it be ignored by Luca's compatriots like the rest of his films? A Bigger Splash made 100k euros at italian BO. Yes, you read that right.

by Anonymousreply 119January 22, 2018 6:05 PM

It's gay enough for me:

Gay director

Gay screenwriter

Gay composer

Gay subject matter

Gay kissing, and more...

by Anonymousreply 120January 22, 2018 6:13 PM

[quote] It took 10 minutes. Worth it to watch you fangurls have your bubbles burst. I'd be more concerned with how much time you take fantasizing that something like CMBYN would actually happen to you. This shit is your frau porn.

by Anonymousreply 121January 22, 2018 6:26 PM

That was meant for R118. I accidentally deleted the quote.

by Anonymousreply 122January 22, 2018 6:27 PM

It doesn't star (or was written or directed by) a woman, a black, or a trans. This is simply not the year for white cis men, gay or otherwise.

by Anonymousreply 123January 22, 2018 6:32 PM

I’m beginning to think it is one person bitching about grammar on the Oscar, Timmy and Armie threads.

by Anonymousreply 124January 22, 2018 6:50 PM

R123 Please stop using the word cis, it's a slur.

by Anonymousreply 125January 22, 2018 8:05 PM

The production budget was about $3.5 million however that was not the film cost Sony Classics. The film was made with support from various production companies and investors. After the film's screening at Sundance last January, Sony Classic bought the rights to the film for an estimated $5 million. So really you should ignore the $3.5 million budget because that has already been paid back to investors with profit, the film actually cost Sony Classics $5 million plus advertising which means the film really does need to make $15 million domestically to be considered a financial success.

by Anonymousreply 126January 25, 2018 1:39 PM

The only flop I want to see is Armie's massive member flopping out of his khakis.

by Anonymousreply 127January 25, 2018 1:46 PM

R126 Correct: Sony purchased the distribution rights for the film for $6 million.

by Anonymousreply 128January 25, 2018 2:31 PM

Call Me By Your Name (SPC), 815 theaters (0)/ $344K (-19%) Fri/3-day: $1.2M (-15%)/Total: $11.2M/ Wk 10

by Anonymousreply 129January 28, 2018 2:30 AM

Yikes. Well, I guess the Oscars aren't gonna help this turd. It's now OFFICIALLY a flop.

by Anonymousreply 130January 29, 2018 1:25 AM

I'm not sure $1.2 million for a weekend art picture is such a flop

by Anonymousreply 131January 29, 2018 3:34 AM

For one with all the press and major Oscar nominations it is. Every film that got major nominations got a bump at the box office this weekend except for CMBYN, Phantom Thread and Get Out. And Get Out was a vanity re-release that's already made its money and is available on disc, streaming and cable tv.

Even Lady Bird and Three Billboards, both of which have been out for nearly three months, saw box office bumps this weekend.

by Anonymousreply 132January 29, 2018 5:23 AM

I love you R34!

by Anonymousreply 133January 29, 2018 5:28 AM

It's performing very well in Italy. It was released in only 150 theaters but BO is encouraging so it'll be expanded. In its first week it made 750k euros. It's pretty good for an artsy film. A Bigger Splash made 100k total.

by Anonymousreply 134January 29, 2018 12:31 PM

R132 There are a variety of reasons why the film is likely doing lukewarm box office:

1) the subject of the film (a 17 year old with a guy who looks like he's 30) has turned people off

2) LGBT films focused on two men having sex are still niche films

3) Sony Classics films typically under perform at the box office due to minimal ad campaigns and slow release schedules. The company has long focused more on critical acclaim rather than box office profits. Its last true box office success was 2011's Midnight in Paris. It's believed that when Michael Barker and Tom Bernard (the two current heads of SPC) retire in 2020 as expected, Sony will reabsorb Classics into it's main distribution system rather than keeping it going.

The one remarkable thing is that CMBYN has earned over $11 million at the box office mostly on word of mouth. It has out grossed their last two critical darlings, Maudie and Lady in the Van, two films they promoted much more aggressively.

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by Anonymousreply 135January 29, 2018 1:18 PM

Including international box office, CMBYN has now made $17.5 million

by Anonymousreply 136January 29, 2018 2:14 PM

[quote] It has out grossed their last two critical darlings, Maudie and Lady in the Van, two films they promoted much more aggressively.

Wrong. They spent nothing on those films.

by Anonymousreply 137January 29, 2018 4:05 PM

R137 I have no idea about Sony's promotional spending but I do vividly remember seeing posters for Maudie and Lady in Van and trailers in the theater for both films. I haven't seen a single poster or ad for CMBYN and I live in San Fran.

by Anonymousreply 138January 29, 2018 4:39 PM

Sony Classics has announced today that CMBYN will be available on digital platforms on Feb 27 and DVD Blu-Ray March 13.

by Anonymousreply 139January 29, 2018 11:32 PM

Rivals have been critical about the performance of Sony Pictures Classics’ Call Me By Your Name, believing that the gay romance left major cash on the table, especially with the kudos it amassed in the fall with wins at the Gotham awards (Timothee Chalamet breakthrough actor, and best feature) and wins at the National Board of Review.

Rivals believe SPC went wide too late in the pic’s run (weekend 9 at 815 venues), hence why the four Oscar-nominated pic looks to only make $14M by March 4.

Compare this to Focus Features 2005 gay western Brokeback Mountain which amassed $83M during its entire run.

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by Anonymousreply 140February 1, 2018 3:26 AM

This turd dropped 234 screens this weekend and is back to 581 screens. It grossed a paltry $1m for a $1700 PSA. Its pathetic domestic gross is $12.9m.

Something called Padmaavat, which is in its 2nd week of release and ONLY on 354 screens has already grossed over $9m.

Erase that question mark. There's no doubt about it now.

by Anonymousreply 141February 4, 2018 5:06 PM

R141 Actually dropping 200+ screens and still making just over $1 million is better than I expected. This confirms to me what we already knew, the film is doing well in the major city markets but only soft interest in the film in the rest of America. The domestic box office is double what SPC put into the film (including advertising) and is making a profit.

by Anonymousreply 142February 4, 2018 9:10 PM

It's the studio's 15th highest grossing film of all time and next week will move to number 13. There's no reason why they wouldn't be happy with that.

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by Anonymousreply 143February 4, 2018 9:12 PM

[quote] The domestic box office is double what SPC put into the film (including advertising) and is making a profit.

No, it isn't. Pull your head out of Timmy's ass and go read up on how a film generates revenue at the box office.

by Anonymousreply 144February 4, 2018 9:15 PM

R144 Sony keeps 45 to 50% of the domestic box office and about 25% of the international box office. General rule of thumb is a film needs to make double it's budget domestically for it to be considered a profit. As of this weekend, the film has made just under $12.9 million domestically and approx $9 million internationally. CMBYN cost Sony $6 million to purchase the distribution rights. SPC is very conservative with is advertising but lets say they spent $2 million on advertising so the film has at the very least broke even for them at this point. It's their best performing film since 2015's Still Alice ... it's fine. Yes, the could have made more box office with a better release schedule but SPC is a notorious slow and steady distributor.

by Anonymousreply 145February 4, 2018 9:33 PM

So everyone is talking about it but it's a flop OP? Are you living in the matrix?

by Anonymousreply 146February 4, 2018 9:38 PM

Sony Classics’ Call Me By Your Name, a Best Picture nominee, peaked last weekend with 815 theaters. Now in its 11th frame, the feature by Luca Guadagnino played 581 locations, grossing just over a million dollars, averaging $1,723, a bit of an uptick from last weekend’s $1,651 PTA. Call Me took in $1.34M the weekend prior and has cumed $12.94M.

by Anonymousreply 147February 5, 2018 1:19 AM

[quote]the film actually cost Sony Classics $5 million plus advertising which means the film really does need to make $15 million domestically to be considered a financial success.

As of today, the film has grossed $13 million domestically and $11 million foreign, with a total cume of $24 million. Thus, the movie is profitable and not a flop.

Incidentally ,it has grossed $2.7 million in Italy, which is way better than Luca's last film, A BIGGER SPLASH, which only grossed $189,000 there.

by Anonymousreply 148February 13, 2018 8:02 PM
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