European Court Says That All EU Countries Must Recognize Same-Sex Marriages.

Perhaps now some countries will have the balls to leave the evil EU

Oh, dear, MPC.

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Funny how the EU didn't give a toss about homophobic discrimination when Britain was in the EU. This feels like a PR stunt.

Funny how the EU keeps importing Muslims who want us all dead.

Funny how any mention of the EU or the UN gets the trolls to post almost immediately with some vague condemnation of it.

The EU is a magical organization that spreads good cheer, financial prosperity and beautiful diversity far and wide. Globalism and an authoritarian bureaucracy are in everybody's best interests whether they like it or not.

Happy now, r6?

Funny how the EU souds like PU!

Fantastic news.

That some idiots are going about musliims(?!) is absurd, you trolls are walking cliches.

the trolls never leave their own basements

So about 76 million more people will live in fair minded nations. That's great OP!

Which countries does this force to recognize same sex marriage?

Now that I have read about that, OP's article is misleading.

Countries are not required to give same-sex marriage holders from other countries the rights of marriage.

They are required to recognize the spousal residency rights. Basically, just because they might not accept the marriage, they are still required to recognize that because they are married elsewhere the spouse has residency rights.

And this is not the court's decision yet, but usually they accept the advocate general's decision.

[QUOTE] R4 Funny how the EU didn't give a toss about homophobic discrimination when Britain was in the EU. This feels like a PR stunt.

Britain (The UK) is still in The EU until Friday 29th of March 2019 - at least. It is also pretty certain that The European Court of Justice will have jurisdiction for many years after.

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Countries such as Poland and Hungary are rebelling because they have experienced totalitarianism and they recognize that the EU is becoming more of the same.

So true r16. A non elected, totally un democratic system tells people what to think and how to behave.

The Eastern European countries came out of 40 years of Communist rule , after some were virtually destroyed by the Nazis. They were either oppressed by the Russians for hundreds of years as in Poland’s case or Islam in Greece, Bulgaria and Hungary’s case and we wonder why they don’t want to follow EU rules?

Why the hell should they?

I live in the EU. How come this did not make any news headlines here???? Frankly amazed that it was not a news item.

Curious that Erna (aka Mrs Patrick Campbell), a Hitler apologist and general far-rightist, becomes very indignant about "totalitarianism" when what's at issue is protection of individual rights (in this case, as gay people) against local, nationalist discrimination.

Funny how people like (R5) are happy to indulge in violent Islamaphobia whilst they think homophobia is wrong. Double standards and hypocrisy.

The receptionist at my local chemist is Muslim. She's helped me so many times. She's one of the loveliest people I know.

But you say she wants me dead... OK.

So glad Britain left the EU. Now the EU wants to charge us for having the audacity to leave. That shows the EU's true colours.

The EU exists to screw over workers, slowly dismantle their rights, making the poor poorer and the rich richer. It exists to make business between Europe and the United States simpler. It's a CIA bourne business blueprint.

The UK's Conservative government killed 81,000 sick and disabled citizens - the EU looked the other way.

[quote]Funny how people like ([R5]) are happy to indulge in violent Islamaphobia whilst they think homophobia is wrong. Double standards and hypocrisy.

Funny how people like R20 equate criticism of Islam with "violence" while ignoring that homosexuality is a crime in Muslim majority countries.

This is nice fuck you to all the Muslims who are trying to take Europe over by outbreeding the indigenous peoples.

Thanks, R13, for fact-checking OP’s clickbaity, erroneous article.

On another note - do all EU countries even follow EU resolutions anymore? I read Poland keeps giving Brussels the finger. They also recently tried to kick out EU’s leader, Tusk.

Further to R13, from The Independent 11 Jan 2018

(NOTE: OP's thread title is deceptive. The Euro Court has been ADVISED and the Advocate General RECOMMENDS.)

Definition of marriage has now ‘evolved’ to include same-sex couples, EU court says

Advocate general recommends that member states be compelled to recognise same-sex marriages from other

The rights of same-sex spouses have to be recognised by every member of the European Union, even if a nation’s government does not permit gay marriage, the European Court of Justice (ECJ) has been advised.

The ECJ’s advocate general, Melchior Wathelet, said in an official legal opinion there had been “evolution” in the societies of EU countries, and the idea that “the term marriage means a union between two persons of the opposite sex can no longer be followed”.

If the advocate general’s recommendation is followed by the ECJ, European Union citizens will be allowed to bring in their same-sex spouses from non-EU countries to live with them in any member states under free movement rules – a right some countries only recognise for opposite-sex marriages.

The official opinion of the advocate general – the highest officers of the court who advise judges on how to rule on complex cases – will now be considered by a panel of ECJ judges. If they confirm his opinion, the ruling will become law across the whole EU.

“In his opinion delivered today, advocate general Melchior Wathelet states, first of all, that the legal issue at the centre of the dispute is not that of the legalisation of same-sex marriage, but that of the free movement of EU citizens,” the court said in a statement.

“While member states are free to provide for marriage between persons of the same sex in their domestic legal system or not, they must fulfil their obligations under the freedom of movement of EU citizens.”

The judge said the term “spouse” in EU law had to be “interpreted autonomously and uniformly throughout the EU”, adding that it “refers to a relationship based on marriage while nevertheless being neutral as to the sex of the persons concerned and indifferent as to the place where that marriage was contracted”.

Concluding, he said: “In that context, the advocate general considers that, in view of the general evolution of the societies of the member states of the EU in the last decade in the area of authorisation of same-sex marriage... the term ‘marriage means a union between two persons of the opposite sex’ can no longer be followed.”

The judge added that “the objective of protecting the traditional family cannot justify discrimination on grounds of sexual orientation” and that “the concept of ‘spouse’ within the meaning of the directive also includes spouses of the same sex. Accordingly, such a person may also reside on a permanent basis in the territory of the member state in which his or her spouse is established as an EU citizen after exercising his or her freedom of movement”.

Sophie in ’t Veld, vice president of the Liberal group in the European Parliament and vice president of the European Parliament’s LGBTI Intergroup, said: “This is fantastic news and a landmark opinion for rainbow families. Freedom of movement is a right of all EU citizens, it cannot be restricted because of whom they love. The European Union protects our rights.”

The case in question was brought to the European Court of Justice by Relu Coman, a Romanian national who married his US partner while living in Brussels in 2010.

In the EU, same-sex marriage is legal in Belgium, Denmark, Finland, France, Germany, Ireland, Luxembourg, Netherlands, Portugal, Spain, Sweden and the UK, excluding Northern Ireland.

Bulgaria, Latvia, Lithuania, Poland, Romania and Slovakia have no legislation on the matter – while Austria, Croatia, Cyprus, Greece, Hungary, Malta, Slovenia, the Czech Republic and Estonia all allow some form of civil partnerships.

It was much more fun in the old days when it was secret and dirty!

What R26 said.

The EU is the ECB and that is it's reason for existence.

Zac is a homo

Poland and Hungary are showing disturbing signs of eroding democratic principles. One of the hallmarks of a democratic government is an independent judiciary which keeps the legislative and executive branches in check. The ruling party in Poland which controls the legislature and presidency has, despite massive protests, ended an independent judiciary and placed the courts under the control of the ruling party. It's shocking betrayal of democracy.