That abysmal mess Big Little Lies will win nothing.
"FEUD" leads Critics Choice nominations!
|by Anonymous||reply 80||Last Tuesday at 6:48 AM|
Of course your link is tumblr.
|by Anonymous||reply 1||12/06/2017|
OP's thread is useless since he didn't even include a link.
Here are the critics choice nominations for TV.
|by Anonymous||reply 2||12/06/2017|
People will always love Joan Crawford and Bette Davis. Their timeless.
|by Anonymous||reply 3||12/06/2017|
I'm very happy to see "GLOW" got recognized with several nominations.
|by Anonymous||reply 4||12/06/2017|
“Feud” got just one more nomination than “Big Little Lies.”
It also earned two more Emmy nominations than the HBO series earlier this year, and look how that turned out. Zero major Emmys, but it did win for Makeup and Hairstyling!
|by Anonymous||reply 5||12/06/2017|
Yeah r5 makes the obvious point. Feud got a ton of emmy nominations, it was still largely snubbed when it came to taking them home.
|by Anonymous||reply 6||12/06/2017|
So they've got Asia Kate Dillon from Billions in the supporting actor category. Fine, I guess. But Walter Goggins is a co-lead in Vice Principals.
|by Anonymous||reply 7||12/06/2017|
R5 Big Little Lies is exactly what it's titled.
|by Anonymous||reply 8||12/06/2017|
The Emmys was always going to be the best shot “Feud” had for a major win, since their winners usually skew older and more traditional than the other awards shows (Lange won for “Grey Gardens,” then lost the other major ones to her co-star Drew Barrymore).
It’ll lose these awards, then the Globes, then the SAG awards. But every time, people will insist that this is when Lange will finally beat Nicole Kidman. And it’ll never happen.
|by Anonymous||reply 9||12/06/2017|
R9 We'll see.
|by Anonymous||reply 10||12/06/2017|
Lange won the Critics Choice Award for AHS: Coven.
She's winning it again for Feud.
|by Anonymous||reply 11||12/06/2017|
These are not important awards.
|by Anonymous||reply 12||12/06/2017|
What could've been a perversely satirical long-running joke became a forceful examination of women's issues and the horror of Hollywood's inner machinations thanks in large part to Lange's measured portrayal of Joan Crawford. Steeped in research -- as well as a compassionate view of a woman who's become a caricature -- Lange's Crawford is still scary, yes, but played with so much empathy, control and simmering rage that Lange's shifts from furor to desperate to vulnerable feel tectonic every time. Forget any of her previous Ryan Murphy collabs, Lange has never shined like this before on TV
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|by Anonymous||reply 14||12/06/2017|
I love how all the major papers are actually using op's thread title or a variation of...
AFTER he posted it.
|by Anonymous||reply 15||12/06/2017|
I think it’s interesting Sarandon was snubbed. Was it because of her dreadful politics?
|by Anonymous||reply 16||12/06/2017|
R16 I dont think so. I think it's indicative of the Critics finding Lange and the rest of the nominees better. It's also the first sign that Lange is winning.
Even if Kidman had a shot (what a truly tepid performance) she'll split with Witherspoon.
|by Anonymous||reply 17||12/06/2017|
[quote] I love how all the major papers are actually using op's thread title or a variation of...AFTER he posted it.
Do you always refer to yourself in the third person, OP? You *are* OP.
|by Anonymous||reply 18||12/06/2017|
R18 I Am.
|by Anonymous||reply 19||12/06/2017|
You are also making shit up. That was the original variety headline. I linked it back at r2. This OP is tiresome.
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|by Anonymous||reply 21||12/06/2017|
I think this clip is lovely. I hope you get your wish, OP. You know I love you.
|by Anonymous||reply 22||12/06/2017|
Sally Struthers on Joan Crawford.
|by Anonymous||reply 23||12/06/2017|
R23 omg. Joan filing her nails.
|by Anonymous||reply 24||12/06/2017|
Better quality, R22.
|by Anonymous||reply 25||12/06/2017|
This sequence was everything.
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Forgot to post better quality vid.
|by Anonymous||reply 27||12/06/2017|
The above is actually part 3/3. 1 and 2 are below.
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|by Anonymous||reply 29||12/06/2017|
OP, I'm pretty sure you also a gifted pianist (we're anonymous, so I could be wrong), but I if you're the same guy, I'm not a match for you, but I really do treasure you. From what I've seen, you're very sexy (HAF, to be honest) and you're one of the most interesting men I know on DL. The only thing I want to say: protect your heart: you're a vulnerable soul. The Emmy thread left you hurt, and I felt your hurt, too. You're a really fine man.
|by Anonymous||reply 30||12/06/2017|
R30 Not I.
|by Anonymous||reply 31||12/06/2017|
Some of the other nomiees didn't deserve it. Chrissy Metz sucks as an actress. Mayim Bialik needs to stop getting nominations too.
|by Anonymous||reply 32||12/06/2017|
Will Jackie Hoffman have a meltdown when she loses another award?
|by Anonymous||reply 33||12/06/2017|
God. Lange was terrible. No clue of the Crawford character, or even the superficial mannerisms.
And we have to keep being reminded of it? Shit.
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|by Anonymous||reply 35||12/06/2017|
Jessica Lange as Joan Crawford is the worst performance ever given by a major actress. It's sad to witness what she's been reduced to by that HACK Murphy. She's absolutely wrong for the part. As a matter of fact, I began to hate her after Feud.
|by Anonymous||reply 36||12/06/2017|
From TV Guide this week:
|by Anonymous||reply 37||12/06/2017|
And the the Critics Choice goes to... Nicole Kidman, for Big Little Lies!!!!
|by Anonymous||reply 38||12/06/2017|
It's not happening, Nic.
|by Anonymous||reply 39||12/07/2017|
[quote]I think it’s interesting Sarandon was snubbed.
|by Anonymous||reply 40||12/07/2017|
R40 I see what you did there!
|by Anonymous||reply 41||12/07/2017|
I can't take reviews and critics like R13 seriously. Has she even seen a Joan Crawford film or interview or done any research herself (as much as she'd like to give Lange credit for it)? Lange didn't capture one iota of Crawford. Not in looks. Not in mannerisms. Not in voice. Nothing. She was just playing a variation of one of her bitchy grand dame AHS characters. Sure, Lange can be a great actress and can make you weep like nobody's business, but that doesn't mean that her Joan Crawford was a success. It wasn't. Articles like that just come off like they're kissing her ass. If they were honest and had done proper research, they'd know that Lange failed in almost every way to bring Crawford to life.
|by Anonymous||reply 42||12/07/2017|
See r42? Mimicking a real life figure isn't as easy as it appears.
|by Anonymous||reply 43||12/07/2017|
R34 You're tiresome, Matthew.
Move on, please.
|by Anonymous||reply 44||12/07/2017|
I will finish R3 [quote] their timeless
performances are better than this fun piece of trash.
|by Anonymous||reply 45||12/07/2017|
I just love how asshats like R42 presume to know one iota about Joan.
Lange captured her exquisitely.
|by Anonymous||reply 46||12/07/2017|
As it should. Lange's work was a tour de force and Sarandon was very good as well (even though I have come to loath her stupid mess of a mind.)
|by Anonymous||reply 47||12/07/2017|
Agree with you R46. Frightened, damaged, steely ambitious woman who in a mountain of insecurity wanted to (and did ) succeed to become a major film star, although at cost to herself and those around her. It all practically screams at you in that BBC clip.
|by Anonymous||reply 48||12/07/2017|
R48 that's you projecting. Also, if you knew anything about Joan, she was always performing in public.
|by Anonymous||reply 49||12/07/2017|
The clip of Joan in that Sally Struthers interview SCREAMS Lange.
|by Anonymous||reply 50||12/07/2017|
I'll slap the shit outta Christina if she fucks this one up.
|by Anonymous||reply 51||12/07/2017|
Feud: Bette and Joan: You Mean All This Time We Could Have Been Friends?
This delectable eight-episode drama, which launched Ryan Murphy’s latest anthology series, focused on the notorious rivalry between screen legends Joan Crawford and Bette Davis but never failed to show their humanity amid the catty remarks and backstabbing. The final episode perfectly encapsulates this balance, showing Bette and Joan’s decidedly less glamorous lives, a decade removed from the filming of their 1962 cult classic “What Ever Happened to Baby Jane?”
Jessica Lange and Susan Sarandon bring their A-game as Crawford and Davis, respectively, in the episode’s most ambitious scene. A dying Crawford imagines attending a dinner party with gossip queen Hedda Hopper, studio exec Jack Warner (Stanley Tucci) and her longtime nemesis, with whom she finally makes peace. The reveal that it’s a complete figment is both cathartic and cruel.
Also consider: “And the Winner Is . . .”
|by Anonymous||reply 52||12/07/2017|
Sarandon was ignored. Keep up your political work Susan! As was Heughan in Outlander.
|by Anonymous||reply 53||12/07/2017|
Sarandon's work on the show really wasn't that impressive.
R40 nailed it, define snub.
|by Anonymous||reply 54||12/07/2017|
I'm rooting Rachel Brosnahan, Alex Borstein and The Marvelous Mrs Maisel. That's all.
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|by Anonymous||reply 56||12/07/2017|
I think it’s interesting that Jessica Lange gets the praise and nominations for the biopic about the movie that her character was in real life snubbed for, WHILE her costar gets mixed reviews and less nominations for playing the character that shined in real life.
|by Anonymous||reply 57||12/07/2017|
Sarandon did a great job, but she underplayed a great deal early on and dialed it up for later performances. Which actually matches Davis in real life; the stereotypical "Bette" became more prominent in later years.
But Lange was masterful. She had to play Joan Crawford AND play AGAINST the Dunaway version that every one had in the front of their minds, and she did both, masterfully.
|by Anonymous||reply 58||12/07/2017|
R53 what did Heughan say/do?
|by Anonymous||reply 59||12/07/2017|
Lange was awful as Crawford. She no real understanding of Crawford's character.
Just watch the difference here. Notice how Crawford carries herself vs. Lange.
Watch Lange's sloppy Shelly Winters style walk at her entrance.
See how Crawford holds her body and head perfectly still.
Note how Lange is always looking down while she reads. Joan would never, but never do that. She looks up and out.
Crawford was convinced she was the Queen of Hollywood and her bearing showed it.
Those are the small touches that made Crawford, Crawford. Lange got it all wrong.
|by Anonymous||reply 60||12/07/2017|
[quote]She no real understanding
|by Anonymous||reply 61||12/07/2017|
I have a feeling the posters praising Lange in FEUD are just Jessica stans, first and foremost, and probably don't know much, if anything, about Joan Crawford. So, when they're defending her performance, they're really defending Lange's honor, if you will. They couldn't give two shits about the real Joan, only that Lange played her, and God forbid anyone criticize the inaccurate portrayal!
|by Anonymous||reply 62||12/07/2017|
R62 The critics and the various voting bodies are ALL Lange stands, don't you know? It's a conspiracy!
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|by Anonymous||reply 64||12/07/2017|
I know about both Crawford and Lange.
I am not a 'stan' of ANY performer. Someone who appreciates a performance is not automatically a 'stan.'
I don't need some caftan wearing, talking wall of fat to assume anything about my knowledge or my aesthetics, thank you.
|by Anonymous||reply 65||12/07/2017|
You go, R65.
|by Anonymous||reply 66||12/07/2017|
R63 that means nothing where the real Joan Crawford is concerned. Like I said, ass-kissing. No one's saying that the performance was terrible, per se, I mean, she acted well for all intents and purposes and made you cry. That's what those acting bodies are rewarding/praising. The technique. But it is nothing like Crawford, which is where I and others think she fails.
|by Anonymous||reply 67||12/07/2017|
R67 Well you're wrong. Watch the other clips of Joan in this thread. Lange's work is brilliant in echoing both Japan's fragility AND strength.
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|by Anonymous||reply 69||12/07/2017|
R68 In her public appearances, photo shoots, film and TV roles, Crawford never cracked her veneer. Never showed fragility. (Except in her final PR photograph.)
The biggest problem with Lange's performance is that she acts like a modern, Method-style actress. And that's why it's so wrong.
Crawford acted like a star. She couldn't give a shit about Stanislavski. Crawford was about style.
Stars of Crawford's era had a body language, a vocal register, a diction, facial expressions, that you have to understand to portray her. It was all about the surface.
|by Anonymous||reply 70||12/07/2017|
R70 We, have you even watched her first television appearance (posted upthread)?
|by Anonymous||reply 71||12/07/2017|
^*Er, have you...
|by Anonymous||reply 72||12/07/2017|
R71 Yes, I know that interview. It's pure Joan: the stylish movement, the erect body posture, the phoney sentiment, the mid-Atlantic-Hollywood accent.
She probably even made sure the interviewer was seated higher than she was so she could elongate her neck and appear more youthful.
Crawford cunningly displays all of her tricks there.
Don't confuse it with fragility. That's what Lange did. It was really quite the opposite.
|by Anonymous||reply 73||12/07/2017|
R73. Whatever intentions you read into Joan's behavior in that clip, Lange captured her perfectly. We'll just have to agree to disagree.
|by Anonymous||reply 74||12/07/2017|
Especially awful was the quivering Jessica Lange trying to play Crawford in Straightjacket.
Completely missing Crawford's glamour and grit and unintentionally campy performance.
She's just soooo wrong.
|by Anonymous||reply 75||12/07/2017|
I gotta say even though I HATE what she did about Hillary, Sarandon was amazing in that Oscar loss clip
|by Anonymous||reply 76||12/07/2017|
Lmao, R75. Right.
|by Anonymous||reply 77||12/07/2017|
If they ever do a biopic about Shirley Booth, Jessica Lange would be perfect.
But please, not Crawford.
|by Anonymous||reply 78||12/07/2017|
meow meow meow
|by Anonymous||reply 79||12/09/2017|
God. She mimicked Crawford perfectly at R77.
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