Right? So what other recourse is there? Mueller probably can indict him, correct?
The Republicans won’t impeach Trump no matter what happens
|by Anonymous||reply 32||Last Thursday at 8:36 AM|
Wasn't the US government set up to prevent someone like Trump from coming to power???
|by Anonymous||reply 1||12/04/2017|
They will impeach him when it's close to the mid-term elections. Then they make themselves look like victims (pretending not to know what he did) and as heroes for finally getting rid of him. Of course the GOP propaganda machinery, all those media outlets owned by GOP supporters, will bombard the US with that narrative hoping it will make it look more convincing when the Republican Party doesn't lose too many seats, because the votes are most certainly not rigged.
|by Anonymous||reply 2||12/04/2017|
You vote for candidates who will impeach him, or at least can inhibit the damage he will do.
|by Anonymous||reply 3||12/04/2017|
If Mueller’s case is strong enough and people take to the streets, it could compel Republicans to act.
From my vantage point, the FBI was on to Flynn, Manafort, Kushner & Trump for money laundering and dealing with Russian spies. I think Mueller and his staff took the case do the level of Russian collusion known BEFORE they even started. I would not be surprised to find that Trump is essentially a Russian asset.
|by Anonymous||reply 4||12/04/2017|
I think all comes down to the NY AG and whether he has enough financial criminal activity to charge the Trump Klan. Trump can’t pardon those crimes.
|by Anonymous||reply 5||12/04/2017|
The GOP would love to dump Trump's ass after their shitty Tax Bill passes. However, they would still have to contend with Trump's deplorable 33% base who aren't going anywhere and will turn on them in protest. Those bitches in Congress will still be too afraid to impeach Trump regardless of what Mueller finds...
|by Anonymous||reply 6||12/04/2017|
Right now, the Republican base likes Trump a lot better than they like Congressional Republicans. As long as that rabid fervor continues to exist, none of those Congressional Republicans are going to buck Trump. They noticed what happened to Flake and Corker.
|by Anonymous||reply 7||12/04/2017|
The delusion is strong among Hillary's defeated and scattered minions. POTUS Donald Trump will benefit from 4% +GDP growth in 2018 and his party will retain the House and Senate. There will be a mild recession in 2019, then rebounding strongly for the 2020 election where he will be elected for another four years. Do you really think his own party is going to impeach President Trump. Really, Obama did not achieve or exceed a 3.0% GDP growth rate during EIGHT YEARS. People vote the economy, just ask former President Carter. You lefties could always move to Venezuela and enjoy that Socialist Paradise...Yea right... Mean while President Trump is stacking the Federal Judiciary from top to bottom with conservatives. Just think of the Supreme Court after eight years of Trump.
|by Anonymous||reply 8||12/04/2017|
That base of crazy-ass deplorables is the real sticking point here. They're a huge chunk of Republican voters. But Repugs can't keep giving handouts to billionaires and keep deplorables happy, too -- there have been rumblings, slowly growing, amongst Republicans online about how Trump is caving to globalist and 1% interests.
|by Anonymous||reply 9||12/04/2017|
[quote]The delusion is strong among Hillary's defeated and scattered minions.
LOL... Oh, the irony....
[quote]POTUS Donald Trump will benefit from 4% +GDP growth in 2018
I rest my case. We aren't going to get 4% growth in 2018, moron.
[quote]and his party will retain the House and Senate
Probably retaining the Senate; the House is up for grabs. If Democrats continue to perform as they have in the past year, say goodbye to the House, moron.
[quote]There will be a mild recession in 2019, then rebounding strongly for the 2020 election where he will be elected for another four years.
LOL... Speaking of delusional....
[quote]Do you really think his own party is going to impeach President Trump.
Of course, we don't. Are you incapable of reading?
|by Anonymous||reply 10||12/04/2017|
In another thread I mentioned that Trumpsters must be unemployable meth heads with emotional issues, and right on cue, R8 arrives. He's forever changing IPs/devices to avoid being ignored and he posts about a million times a day. Who even has time for that?
I can't decide if it would be more pathetic if he were being paid or if he were doing it for free.
Anyway, back into the killfile you go, R8, along with 100 of your sockpuppet accounts.
|by Anonymous||reply 11||12/04/2017|
He's just going to drop dead. That high-fat diet and what appears to be no exercise at all is a recipe for disaster.
|by Anonymous||reply 12||12/04/2017|
R12: Unfortunately, he will probably live to be 90+.
|by Anonymous||reply 13||12/04/2017|
So many of these Trump people meeting with Russians. And Congress is not acting now?
It would not be that long ago such would be rounded up, tried, convicted, and executed for Treason.
|by Anonymous||reply 14||12/04/2017|
Duh, as much as haters may want impeachment, there has to be a legitimate reason for it. Hate is not enough.
|by Anonymous||reply 15||12/04/2017|
Obstruction of justice is sufficient, R15. The grounds for impeachment are whatever Congress says they are.
|by Anonymous||reply 16||12/04/2017|
Trump is the GOP's most valued asset. He keeps their base (the crazy 27% of the population) happy, and he serves as a useful scapegoat. Everything the Republican Congress enacts, they'll ascribe to Trump once the shit hits the fan.
Never forget: Trump can only do what the Republicans in Congress allow him to do. They very effectively hamstrung Obama during his second term; if they really objected to anything Trump wanted to do, they'd block him.
As for what WE should do - well, if you believe in a diety, I suppose you could pray for it to take appropriate action. Other than that, the best we can hope for is that Putin eventually decides Trump's too big of a liability and pulls a move out of the old KGB playbook.
|by Anonymous||reply 17||12/04/2017|
Simple! If the Republicans won’t impeach, the FLIP THE FREAKING HOUSE!!!
|by Anonymous||reply 18||12/04/2017|
[quote]He's just going to drop dead. That high-fat diet and what appears to be no exercise at all is a recipe for disaster.
And his frequent rages. His blood pressure must be terrible.
|by Anonymous||reply 19||12/04/2017|
Venezuela is not a socialist county R8. Not even close.
|by Anonymous||reply 20||12/04/2017|
I'm not convinced Republicans or Democrats will impeach Trump. Forget about the deplorables. We all know over 49 has the largest voter turnout. Guess whose retirement funds are making that group smiles since Trump was elected?
Nobody in the House or the Senate will want to go back to their districts if starting the impeachment process causes the economy to tank. .
|by Anonymous||reply 21||12/04/2017|
Guess which group of people are most affected by some of the other decisions in that tax bill, R21, including a $25 billion cut to Medicare?
|by Anonymous||reply 22||12/04/2017|
[quote] R15: Duh, as much as haters may want impeachment, there has to be a legitimate reason for it. Hate is not enough.
It’s really a political question. The reason could be simply that he’s rude.
btw, using the term “haters” for Trump opponents is inappropriate. Trump is the most publically hateful person in public life, probably ever.
|by Anonymous||reply 23||12/04/2017|
R22 - Not exactly. The cuts aren't in the bill. They are a separate federal mandate. It will probably turn to a game of chicken between Republicans and Democrats. Will the cuts happen or will Democrats and Republicans agree to wave them? I suspect if the mandatory cuts are waved both parties will share the blame.
|by Anonymous||reply 24||12/04/2017|
When Republicans are done with him, I think they will kill him and blame it on a liberal nutter. Things are piling up, and the chaos that would come would allow Pence to take over without too much outcry.
|by Anonymous||reply 25||12/04/2017|
[quote]The cuts aren't in the bill.
I understand that but it's trivially easy to write a commercial that points out that the Republican bill will result in a $25 billion cut to Medicare. As of right now, that statement is true. Will the Democrats vote to waive that requirement? They have little incentive to do so, other than, well, doing the right thing. Right now, it's all on Republicans.
|by Anonymous||reply 26||12/04/2017|
R26 - why hasn't that happened? The bill passes the cuts go into effect. Last week was the time for the commercial.
My guess is the Republicans and Democrats have done enough internal polling to know not waving the paygo cuts to know they have to necessary votes. What I wonder is will the waive the cuts entirely or reduce/exempt certain programs form the cuts. Medicare for example.
I also wonder does this mean either Ryan or Trump has the Tea Party under control?
|by Anonymous||reply 27||Last Tuesday at 10:57 AM|
The urine from the pee pee girls rendered magical powers. Trump is invincible.
|by Anonymous||reply 28||Last Wednesday at 3:47 PM|
Impeachment=Pence becomes President and then gets to run as an incumbent against the hot new Democratic contender who is ........... well no one seems to be to concerned about that one. Dems still stuck in 2016.
|by Anonymous||reply 29||Last Wednesday at 3:50 PM|
R8 is nuts.
|by Anonymous||reply 30||Last Wednesday at 3:52 PM|
R29, let's indulge in the scenario that the Dems flip the House in 2018 and hopefully the Senate too, impeach Pence first, then Trump, and then the Democratic Speaker of the House becomes President.
|by Anonymous||reply 31||Last Wednesday at 4:50 PM|
R31 - just to be clear impeaching Pence and Trump doesn't remove them from office. You still need a trial in the Senate, and a two-thirds majority vote to convict and remove from office. There are only 8 Republican seats up for election in 2018. Best case scenario for Democrats in 2018 is they end up 57 seats. That's assuming Moore loses in 2017. That leaves the Democrats needing all of their members to vote for conviction and 9 Republicans to voter for conviction.
Plus your scenario also requires Democrats to do something incredibly irresponsible and probably very unpopular. They would have to leave the VP spot open while Trump is impeached and than convicted.
|by Anonymous||reply 32||Last Thursday at 8:36 AM|