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Why Was Sharon Stone A-List In The 90s When She Never Had A HIT MOVIE?

Other than Basic Instinct, Sharon Stone never had a hit movie.

So why was she A-List with tons of scripts heading her way in the 90s?

by Anonymousreply 274January 14, 2018 6:36 PM

I think Casino did okay

by Anonymousreply 1September 3, 2017 4:25 PM

[quote] I think Casino did okay

Despite an Oscar nod, that was a flop too

by Anonymousreply 2September 3, 2017 4:27 PM

I believe THAT movie she did with Michael Douglas actually was a hit but I can't remember the name.

by Anonymousreply 3September 3, 2017 4:29 PM

She was hot for 5 minutes.

by Anonymousreply 4September 3, 2017 4:30 PM

She was beautiful

by Anonymousreply 5September 3, 2017 4:30 PM

She also was 36 when she hit it big so that limited her choices

by Anonymousreply 6September 3, 2017 4:30 PM

[quote] I believe THAT movie she did with Michael Douglas actually was a hit but I can't remember the name.

Yes 1 movie, and she was A-List in the 90s despite never having another hit movie. Why?

by Anonymousreply 7September 3, 2017 4:31 PM

Because Basic Instinct was huge. But they tried again with films like Sliver and they just did not work for her

by Anonymousreply 8September 3, 2017 4:32 PM

Her snatch was A-list. This was before the internet and the fappening

by Anonymousreply 9September 3, 2017 4:33 PM

She had a lot of glamour and they hoped to recapture the Basic Instinct magic. But all of her follow up projects were not so great. And then she turned 40 which is 80 in Hollywood years.

by Anonymousreply 10September 3, 2017 4:39 PM

Same a Meg Ryan I guess. She only had 2 hit films (When Harry Met Sally & Sleepless In Seattle) yet she was A List for YEARS, and turned down tons of projects. And what she did was flops. Her last successful film was "You've Got Mail" which is approaching its 20th Anniversary!

by Anonymousreply 11September 3, 2017 4:43 PM

Yes r8. Sharon Stone has a magic pussy-- just like Amber Herd. Magic pussies automatically get a 3-picture deal.

by Anonymousreply 12September 3, 2017 4:43 PM

Sharon is also a nut case. Her bad b.o. mixed with bad personality...no one wanted to hire her.

by Anonymousreply 13September 3, 2017 4:44 PM

Because "Casino" was a movie for its time - worshipping Cocaine, Grifting, Violence. Because she spread 'em for het males in "Basic Instincts" that glorified Violence, subtle lesbianism. Cheap shots all. The deciding factor was that she was a creation of the tail end of "Hollywood Studio Days" the last house sponsored Diva to Graduate from the studio machine. She was the last.

by Anonymousreply 14September 3, 2017 4:57 PM

Last Dance, directed by Bruce Beresford, was her "Barbra Streisand in Nuts" attempt at an Oscar nomination. She also did Diabolique the same year. Instead of an Oscar nomination, she was actually nominated for a Razzie for Worst New Star for both films, as "the new serious Sharon Stone". Ouch.

by Anonymousreply 15September 3, 2017 5:02 PM

OP, prior to BASIC INSTINCT, Sharon was in TOTAL RECALL, also directed by Paul Verhoeven

The crappy film was a hit. There was buzz about Sharon being a 'it' girl. The rest is history

by Anonymousreply 16September 3, 2017 5:05 PM

Amber Heard reminds of Sharon, minus the personality and breakout role. Most movie stars in Hollywood are lucky to get a 5 year run, then they retire or go to TV.

by Anonymousreply 17September 3, 2017 5:06 PM

R13... I've never heard about any hygiene issues with Sharon...tell us what you know.

by Anonymousreply 18September 3, 2017 5:08 PM

[quote] The crappy film was a hit. There was buzz about Sharon being a 'it' girl. The rest is history

If you were to ask people who the female lead in Total Recall no one would be able to answer.

by Anonymousreply 19September 3, 2017 5:08 PM

After Basic Instinct throughout the 90s Sharon Stone graced all the magazine covers, got sit down interviews on Late Night TV (even appearing on the Barbara Walters Oscar special) and YEARLY appearances on the Oscars from 1992 to 2000

All that for just one movie, Basic Instinct?

by Anonymousreply 20September 3, 2017 5:10 PM

She had the hit with basic instinct but I think what made her considered a-list was her PR team. They had her in every magazine and at every party. She wore the men's Gap shirt to the Oscars, that got ALL the publicity that year. "I just saw this today and threw it on" riiiiiiight.

by Anonymousreply 21September 3, 2017 5:11 PM

Most of her post BI films did fail... I remember reading a GQ article on her and she came across as thirsty and basically told the reporter that she worked hard to make it to where she was and that she "wasn't leaving".

by Anonymousreply 22September 3, 2017 5:13 PM

R19 is soooo wrong.

by Anonymousreply 23September 3, 2017 5:13 PM

I remember when Barbara Walters asked her about being 35 and she cringed. She knew her time was limited

by Anonymousreply 24September 3, 2017 5:15 PM

r21 has it. She was marketed as a "fashion icon" and got some publicity from that, she was a tabloid target for a while, too

by Anonymousreply 25September 3, 2017 5:15 PM

R23 If you were to ask people "Who was the female lead in Demolition Man?" No one would know

(It was Sandra Bullock)

by Anonymousreply 26September 3, 2017 5:15 PM

BTW Sandra Bullock hit it big with the film "Speed" when she was 30, and followed it up with two box office hits "The Net" & "While You Were Sleeping" at age 31

by Anonymousreply 27September 3, 2017 5:17 PM

There was no female lead in Total Recall. If you had to choose one, it would more likely be Rachel Ticotin over Sharon Stone, but both were supporting roles in an ARNOLD movie.

by Anonymousreply 28September 3, 2017 5:18 PM

R28 which is the total point, those roles were so insignificant that it is unfair to label it a "Sharon Stone" movie

by Anonymousreply 29September 3, 2017 5:19 PM

She might have had more luck under the studio system. With modern Hollywood you have to be bankable and she was not. It's actually worse now than it was in the 80's with the proliferation of comic book films. Young pretty types are wanted and they are over by 35. At least she was given a chance

by Anonymousreply 30September 3, 2017 5:23 PM
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by Anonymousreply 32September 3, 2017 5:26 PM

"Basic Instinct" was a hit INTERNATIONALLY so that helped. But let's face it, she was really famous for being the first star to spread her legs on camera. (She was good in "Casino" though).

by Anonymousreply 33September 3, 2017 5:28 PM

I loved her in Casino. That's a movie I have watched many times. Basic Instinct, no -- and I'm a lesbian! Just didn't like it.

by Anonymousreply 34September 3, 2017 5:30 PM

Sharon was and is beautiful and is aging very well. Unlike Meg "fish lips" Ryan.

She also has a great personality. She gave a great performance in Casino.

by Anonymousreply 35September 3, 2017 5:30 PM

Well she showed pubic hair. Let's be honest. Look, she hit late, when she did she was lightning in a bottle and as short lived. The international crowd loved her Hollywood loved her and her embrace of the "movie star". She was beautiful, smart and controversial. She definitely filled a niche for that time-period when there were few gorgeous it girls with a bit of talent.

by Anonymousreply 36September 3, 2017 5:32 PM

Sharon's A-List ranking was largely a publicity-fueled stardom. One top-grossing movie catapulted her to the top, but good PR sustained her for quite some time, despite appearing in flop after flop, and developing a bad reputation on the set. She played the game, making herself available for interviews and cover stories, attending red carpet events in full Hollywood glamour girl drag, headlining AmFar events, etc. A lot of the credit goes to her publicists for keeping her name out there and landing her those PR gigs.

by Anonymousreply 37September 3, 2017 5:35 PM

She was great in Irreconcilable Differences. Not bad in The Mighty.

by Anonymousreply 38September 3, 2017 5:44 PM

Sharon was a beautiful and a good actress. She was apparently a bitch on set, so she killed her own career.

by Anonymousreply 39September 3, 2017 5:52 PM

Wasn't there a 1995 Gun Western type film that she did with Leonardo Di Caprio that was a hit?

I remember being really keen to see her film The Muse in 1999 and being disappointed at how underwhelming it was.

by Anonymousreply 40September 3, 2017 5:56 PM

I think it is really unrealistic to think she could be a big star in her 40's. She was glamorous but cold, and audiences were not into her acting

by Anonymousreply 41September 3, 2017 6:00 PM

Cate Blanchett is a big star in her 40s

by Anonymousreply 42September 3, 2017 6:03 PM

The black Gap tee shirt she wore to the Oscars was not a men's shirt. It was a women's shirt, and I have mine even today.

She wore her husband's white dress shirt several years later, so I think you have confused the two occasions.

by Anonymousreply 43September 3, 2017 6:05 PM

Right, but she has acting range and Sharon does ... not. Cate is also more of an art house darling than a big box office star.

by Anonymousreply 44September 3, 2017 6:05 PM

R44 exactly Sharon chose mainstream trashy roles

by Anonymousreply 45September 3, 2017 6:07 PM

Isn't she supposed to be a genius?

by Anonymousreply 46September 3, 2017 6:12 PM

if you're too young to remember, you should know that when Basic Instinct came out she was HUGE. It was one of the biggest A star is Born moment in the history of Hollywood. That massive thing alone sustained for at least 4-5 years after BI. And she was funny, brazen and controversial in every interview. I think the problem was that there weren't many larger-than-life woman roles for her, so she made a lot of wrong choices. She's quite talented, IMO. But she really shines in big crazy parts like in BI and Casino.

by Anonymousreply 47September 3, 2017 6:16 PM

R40 That was The Quick and the Dead. Not sure how well received that was.

by Anonymousreply 48September 3, 2017 6:21 PM

When I first saw her on screen in Basic Instinct, my jaw dropped. She was a better-looking, more-talented Madonna. I looked around the theatre wondering whether or not everyone was thinking the same thing.

It seemed so obvious, and the timing of her making a huge impact when and how she did played a big part in her being shoved to the front of the film star class.

She was the Madonna of the film world - something Madonna wanted desperately to be, but couldn't back up - Sharon filled that lucrative slot.

I also wondered (perhaps DL sleuths would know) if this was when Greta Scacchi fled town, rejecting the sexy, ice queen mold Hollywood was fashioning for her.

Greta preferred Merchant-Ivory type stuff.

When Sharon showed up, did Greta see the writing on the wall? Or did Sharon only have a shot because Greta said "Thanks, but no thanks?"

by Anonymousreply 49September 3, 2017 6:23 PM

I recall stories that crew members peed in any hot tub or bath tub that she had to do scenes in. Her run was basically age 35-40.

by Anonymousreply 50September 3, 2017 6:25 PM

R43,She wore a mens white GAP shirt with long skirt to the Oscars. Don't be so smug when you are WRONG.

by Anonymousreply 51September 3, 2017 6:37 PM

R49, I remember one critic commenting that she played Madonna better than Madonna. Ironically, Madonna ended up doing Body of Evidence, which tried to capitalize on the Basic Instinct sexual thriller heat, but only ended up proving that Madonna was no Sharon Stone.

by Anonymousreply 52September 3, 2017 6:42 PM

R51 OK cuntessa, whatever you say, but in 1996, she wore a BLACK women's Gap tee shirt with cap sleeves t the Oscars.

As I said in my post, years later she wore a men's dress shirt with a long VW skirt.

by Anonymousreply 53September 3, 2017 6:46 PM

R40 I loved her in Muse. I would watch that first of a SS marathon and probably not bother watching anything else.

I think she got a lot of mileage from having fucked around a lot pre-BI with powerful people (i.e., Joel Silver). Someone would have to confirm this though as it was just gossip from around that time.

by Anonymousreply 54September 3, 2017 6:50 PM

[quote] she wore a mens white GAP shirt with long skirt to the Oscars. Don't be so smug when you are WRONG.

[quote] OK cuntessa, whatever you say, but in 1996, she wore a BLACK women's Gap tee shirt with cap sleeves t the Oscars.

You are BOTH RIGHT. In 1996 when she was nominated for an Oscar she showed up with her dad as her escort and said she was wearing a black gap t-shirt with a skirt out of her closet.

A few years later (days after she got married) she wore her husband's White Dress Shirt with a long skirt, and told everyone on the Red Carpet that fact.

So both of you are right.

by Anonymousreply 55September 3, 2017 6:52 PM

[quote] Wasn't there a 1995 Gun Western type film that she did with Leonardo Di Caprio that was a hit?

That was a FLOP as well

by Anonymousreply 56September 3, 2017 6:54 PM

Fun fact - Both Madonna and Sharon Stone are the same age, both turn 60 next year

by Anonymousreply 57September 3, 2017 6:57 PM

Let's not forget her remake of "Gloria" that TANKED at the box office flop as well.

by Anonymousreply 58September 3, 2017 6:59 PM

I don't know if it's true but a friend in LA told me she faked that brain injury story for cheap publicity. The x-rays and everything...faked. Just like Angelina and her Bell's Paulsy.

by Anonymousreply 59September 3, 2017 7:00 PM

I love her. She was gorgeous when most starlets were merely cute.

by Anonymousreply 60September 3, 2017 7:01 PM

Sharon Stone in her Oscar Bait performance as trailer trash inmate on death row in Last Dance

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by Anonymousreply 61September 3, 2017 7:02 PM

i remember reading an interview before BI, maybe around the time of Total Recall. She said she basically came from trash, and that her parents sent away at first chance (modeling) because her brother was a small time criminal and they wanted to saver her from being sucked in that world.

by Anonymousreply 62September 3, 2017 7:04 PM

For being pretty

by Anonymousreply 63September 3, 2017 7:12 PM

When I first saw Basic Instinct I remember thinking that this is the kind of role that Theresa Russell would have done when few others would have touched it (mainly because of the open-snatched interrogation scene). Like Stone, Russell is/was a terrible actress, and she certainly would have fit the part physically.

by Anonymousreply 64September 3, 2017 7:15 PM

R50, Joe Eszterhasz revealed that tidbit in his book, "Hollywood Animals." He also said about La Stone, "we used to have a saying among us at the agency. 'Put Sharon Stone in the room alone with the director and she'll close the deal.'"

by Anonymousreply 65September 3, 2017 7:16 PM

She was/is so pretty but she you can only go so far with one note acting performances. Madonna, Sharon, Demi ... they were unlivable and mostly flat on screen with a few exceptions. And if you are a bitch in real life, then you really are done at 40. There is someone right behind you who is younger, cheaper and easier to work with

by Anonymousreply 66September 3, 2017 7:23 PM

Unlikeable

by Anonymousreply 67September 3, 2017 7:24 PM

[quote]And if you are a bitch in real life, then you really are done at 40.

Indeed.

by Anonymousreply 68September 3, 2017 7:32 PM

R64 Russell's saving grace is Black Widow. She was watchable and had a couple of good scenes in that.

by Anonymousreply 69September 3, 2017 7:39 PM

[quote]Russell's saving grace is Black Widow.

I agree, it was her best film IMO.

by Anonymousreply 70September 3, 2017 7:41 PM

I think she first got attention for Irreconcilable Differences. Shelly Long, Ryan O'Neal as a pair of married screenwriters, Drew Barrymore their kids. Long played the starlet Ryan O'Neal had an affair with and then left his wife for. She was very funny. She went from sort of an earthy, faux ingenuous, European style sexy bohemian to a shrill movie star-wannabe who starred in a remake of Gone with The Wind (as a musical). She was pretty and funny in that. It got her opportunities. She also was a fashion icon for awhile, as already said.

by Anonymousreply 71September 3, 2017 7:45 PM

Didn't Michelle Pfeiffer only have one hit (Dangerous Minds)? Everything else was co-star. It's harder for women, especially if they lack frau appeal.

by Anonymousreply 72September 3, 2017 7:45 PM

R66 Yes, Madeline Stowe's fame is a mystery. She's pretty if you had to say she wasn't ugly, but a huge cunt and a bad actress.

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by Anonymousreply 73September 3, 2017 7:53 PM

I always found Sharon trashy, distasteful and nothing like me, I, myself. That's why America picked me to love. Now I have another trashy, distasteful Milleneal of all things trying to take my crown.

by Anonymousreply 74September 3, 2017 8:01 PM

R74 didn't you drive your sister to suicide?

by Anonymousreply 75September 3, 2017 8:08 PM

Is Jennifer Lawerence the Sharon Stone of this decade? Except positive critical acclaim with less sexiness?

by Anonymousreply 76September 3, 2017 8:14 PM

Because she was a great slutty actress.

by Anonymousreply 77September 3, 2017 8:25 PM

she had a cameo in Woody's Stardust Memories. Do you think she slept with Allen for that?

by Anonymousreply 78September 3, 2017 8:32 PM

R78 she was too old for Woody. He likes younger women and/or men.

by Anonymousreply 79September 3, 2017 8:35 PM

R79, she was 23 and a gorgeous blonde WASP. Basically Woody's wet dream. SO i guess he slept with her

by Anonymousreply 80September 3, 2017 8:38 PM

R76, Charlize Theron.

by Anonymousreply 81September 3, 2017 8:42 PM

R76 Jennifer Lawrence is ugly.

by Anonymousreply 82September 3, 2017 8:56 PM

My hero, Robert Evans, despised her for saying she would not meet with him anywhere not pubic because a friend of hers had been chained by a dog collar and kept hostage for months in his house. Total bullshit, of course. Despite her rather studied persona of being smart, her true nutty shit came to the surface pretty fast -- and things like breaking up the marriage of one of her producers didn't help.

But, really, if she was a great enough actress, all would have been forgiven. She wasn't.

by Anonymousreply 83September 3, 2017 9:01 PM

JLAW for some reason has been given the label of great actress. I find her plain and amateur but she is the most in demand. Julia lost her crown a long time ago. She was eclipsed by Sandra Bullock and then JLAW.

Bullock is hoping Ocean's 8 next year shows she can still be box office in her 50's. Sharon would be good in a TV series. Maybe as Kay Scarpetta or some kind of a detective

by Anonymousreply 84September 3, 2017 9:02 PM

Sharon. At the time of the filming and release of BI, she'd proven herself to the forward-thinking ingénue of her day. According to the BI screenwriter, Joe Eszterhas, (who'd later written "American Rhapsody, a detailed expose on his life as a successful Hollywood screenwriter). La Stone had hooked up with one of the movie's producers, who was also one of the producers of her follow-up film, Sliver, the then married Bill MacDonald.

Long story, short: Eszterhas married MacDonald's ex-wife, Naomi.

Though he'd subsequently left his career in Hollywood, due to health reasons (throat cancer), it's apparent (in his book) lovely Sharon was a 'Mean Girl,' taking and using anything at her disposal.

(In his book he also provides juicy behind-the-scene details about Showgirls (he was the film's screenwriter) and the casting of Elizabeth Berkley as its lead character, "Nomi," which was his nickname for his new bride, the former Naomi MacDonald.)

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by Anonymousreply 85September 3, 2017 9:05 PM

Yes? What about the casting of Elizabeth Berkley?

Berkley's a perfect rejoinder to the assertion that Stone is one note. What is Berkley? Toneless?

by Anonymousreply 86September 3, 2017 9:09 PM

Stone had some awful show on TNT about a year ago. In this age of Prestige TV, she will never get anything like gold standard HBO backing her. She burned alot of bridges and is not talented enough for people to overlook that. Skip some of the photo shoots and parties and work on your craft.

by Anonymousreply 87September 3, 2017 9:20 PM

I actually liked her in "The Muse" but, then, she was basically playing herself.

by Anonymousreply 88September 3, 2017 9:20 PM

She could play the villain in one of those superhero movies. No real range required and she'd look great in the costumes.

by Anonymousreply 89September 3, 2017 9:47 PM

In his book JE wrote neither he nor his new bride were happy with the film's director (Verhoeven) casting of EB as "Nomi" (and nor was Gina). They were pissed. JE had originally written the film's main character as a lost girl, who'd made the wrong choices due to her life's circumstances. However (he'd written), the film's director had other plans for EB's character.

by Anonymousreply 90September 3, 2017 9:47 PM

R21, It was not a "men's shirt" La Stone wore to the 1996 Oscars:

[Quote] It was March 25, 1996, at the 68th Academy Awards ceremony where Sharon Stone arrived on the red carpet, not in a designer gown, but wearing a black Stretch Mock Turtleneck - and she made sure the whole world knew it was from Gap! Customers all over the country stormed their local Gap stores in search of “The Sharon Stone Top” - but there were none! The Mock Turtleneck Sharon wore was from the Fall 1995 collection and was no longer available. That very week, Gap rushed the Short-Sleeved Stretch Mock Turtleneck back into production and into stores to meet the demand for the layering piece that had become an instant must-have item.

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by Anonymousreply 91September 3, 2017 9:49 PM

R89, she ready did that in that debacle, CATWOMAN.

by Anonymousreply 92September 3, 2017 9:51 PM

1994's "The Specialist" was a HUGE hit and Sharon was definitely part of the reason, along with Stallone and Woods.

by Anonymousreply 93September 3, 2017 9:56 PM

[quote] 1994's "The Specialist" was a HUGE hit

No it was another FLOP

by Anonymousreply 94September 3, 2017 9:57 PM

[Quote] The Specialist opened in the U.S. on October 7, 1994 and was one of Stallone's few box office hits in the 1990s.[citation needed] It opened to $14,317,765 in its opening weekend and ended up making back its budget with $57,362,582 at the domestic box office while making another $113,000,000 overseas, giving it a worldwide gross of $170,362,582. It was Stallone's third highest grossing movie at the box office in the 1990s and the second highest overall gross next to Cliffhanger.[6]

by Anonymousreply 95September 3, 2017 10:02 PM

R95 the entry says ".[citation needed]"

by Anonymousreply 96September 3, 2017 10:03 PM

her pussy didn't stink

by Anonymousreply 97September 3, 2017 10:05 PM

Don't forget, in that whining Madonna letter that was up for auction recently (then retracted) M said Sharon Stone was having the film career she (M) deserved. Hahahaha, stupid Madonna was envious of Sharon Stone because SS is more beautiful, was popular for explicit "sexiness" (M thought she'd cornered that market) and appeared to have a hot film career ahead of her. That letter made public must have embarrassed both of them. D'oh!

by Anonymousreply 98September 3, 2017 10:29 PM

I would guess that Sharon's 1992 "Basic Instinct"'s mega-success and Faux Lesbianism in it caused Madonna to ramp up the graphic sex and Faux Lesbianism in her SEX book to come out later in 1992, as well as the album EROTICA.

Madonna was chasing Sharon's success.

by Anonymousreply 99September 3, 2017 10:32 PM

It didn't embarass Sharon. She wrote an open letter to Madonna.

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by Anonymousreply 101September 3, 2017 10:36 PM

Is there a difference between Kathleen Turner and Sharon Stone?

by Anonymousreply 102September 3, 2017 10:58 PM

Kathleen Turner was, is and always shall be 100x the actress that Sharon Stone never was. And Kathleen had more than a few classic movies to her name. She was my favorite star of the '80s, bar none, especially in "Crimes of Passion" and, later, "War of the Roses".

by Anonymousreply 103September 3, 2017 11:06 PM

Agree. Sharon can be entertaining as a kook but she is a B actress at best. Kathleen also had that successful theatrical run of Who's Afraid of Virginia Wolfe

by Anonymousreply 104September 3, 2017 11:10 PM

Kathleen Turner was my fave in childhood as well, along with Michelle Pfeiffer.

I wish Ryan Murphy would write Turner a juicy part. She would have been more fun as Bette Davis than Sarandon.

by Anonymousreply 105September 3, 2017 11:11 PM

[quote]In his book JE wrote neither he nor his new bride were happy with the film's director (Verhoeven) casting of EB as "Nomi"

Well who the fuck else who even consider taking that part, except for some unknown actress?

by Anonymousreply 106September 3, 2017 11:19 PM

[quote]Well who the fuck else who even consider taking that part, except for some unknown actress?

Charlize Theron, apparently....(she was an unknown actress at the time though)

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by Anonymousreply 107September 3, 2017 11:27 PM

"Jennifer Lawrence is ugly."

In what world? She's pretty much the stereotypical hot blonde with boobs

by Anonymousreply 108September 4, 2017 12:09 AM

R49 on what planet does Sharon have more talent than Madonna? As an actress of course but not as an entertainer in general.

Madonna is one hundred times the star Sharon is/was.

by Anonymousreply 109September 4, 2017 12:32 AM

I do think Jennifer Lawrence is pretty but like all of them now, she has had plastic surgery. Her look now is very dewey and generic, which is perfect for selling handbags

by Anonymousreply 110September 4, 2017 12:39 AM

R99 Madonna was doing the faux lesbian thing in photoshoots and her Justify My Love video back in 1990 well BEFORE BI and Sharon Stone

Also the SEX book was photographed and completed from fall 1991 to February 1992, BEFORE BI was released.

And Madonna was the highest paid most successful female entertainer during the early 90s so I dont think Madonna was chasing Sharon's so called "success". Even in 1993 when Sharon was at her supposed peak and Madonna's career had entered backlash mode, Madonna STILL made more money than her that year according to Forbes magazine.

Oh and Madonna was on more magazine covers worldwide during the 90s than any other celebrity. Including Newsweek in 1992 and her second Time magazine cover in early 1997. Sharon could only dream...

by Anonymousreply 111September 4, 2017 12:39 AM

I too have never understood why Sharon Stone is considered a movie superstar. Everything she's in automatically flops

by Anonymousreply 112September 4, 2017 12:41 AM

I always thought Madonna's 1991 lipstick lesbian inspired Rolling Stone cover shoot inspired the writers of BI

There's even a shot of the Steven Meisel shot photos were Madonna appears to be showing vagina

Very sexy much more so than her SEX book

It was also Rolling Stone's #1 selling issue of the year

by Anonymousreply 113September 4, 2017 12:43 AM

[quote]And Madonna was the highest paid most successful female entertainer during the early 90s

but let's also remember Demi Moore was the highest paid actress in Hollywood at the time

by Anonymousreply 114September 4, 2017 12:43 AM

R114 yes in the film world but in the entertainment business as a whole it was always either Madonna or Oprah in the early 90s.

Also Madonna is STILL one of the highest paid entertainers when she releases new music and goes on tour

According to Forbes, Madonna made $125 million in 2013, THE highest paid celebrity, male or female, of the year

That's more money than Sharon's entire career networth.

by Anonymousreply 115September 4, 2017 12:47 AM

R99, i suppose so. Madge had been ramping up the sexuality and flirting with lesbianism since Justify My Love (1989) and that Steven Meisel 1920s Brassaï tribute spread in Rolling Stone (1991). SS's portrayal of the sexually aggressive, bisexual villainess took a page out of Madge's playbook and stole her thunder. Madge's recourse was to amp it up and outdo SS by being even more brazen and blatant. Hence, Erotica, Sex, and Body of Evidence.

by Anonymousreply 116September 4, 2017 12:57 AM

I really enjoyed her performances in The Muse and Casino. She's very good with odd men: Albert Brooks and James Woods. Maybe it's because she's odd herself? I heard she was also good in The Mighty, but I haven't seen that one. She definitely would have benefited from the studio system of the 30s and 40s. I thought the treatment of Stone on the Casino set was very telling, in an ugly way, about Scorsese.

by Anonymousreply 117September 4, 2017 1:13 AM

R117, maybe Sharon Stone was the 90s answer to Cybil Shepherd? Or maybe I'm just pulling at straws here. When reading your post, I started thinking about the days when Cybil was attractive and she was in Taxi Driver.

by Anonymousreply 118September 4, 2017 1:23 AM

[quote] SS's portrayal of the sexually aggressive, bisexual villainess took a page out of Madge's playbook and stole her thunder. '

I don't remember ever hearing that Joe Eszterhas based the Catherine Tramell character on Madonna.

by Anonymousreply 119September 4, 2017 1:32 AM

If you want to see a truly sad misguided attempt at an Oscar nomination, watch Sharon Stone playing frumpy middle-aged mother in "Lovelace". Oh, how The Mighty have fallen (see what I did there?)

by Anonymousreply 120September 4, 2017 1:59 AM

P.S. It's sad because she obviously would've been a strong contender to play Linda Lovelace herself and probably would've done a much better job (had there been a better script anyway). Instead, she is stuck in the thankless role of her MOTHER? And not even a fun abusive Mo'neeq good Mother role. Just a snooze for the most part.

by Anonymousreply 121September 4, 2017 2:05 AM

(Meant to say she'd have played Linda in her younger days, not now, of course).

by Anonymousreply 122September 4, 2017 2:06 AM

Please. No one cares about Madonna in a Sharon Stone thread.

by Anonymousreply 123September 4, 2017 2:11 AM

Maybe Sharon could play Dolly Sharp AKA Helen Wood, Lovelace's co-star, who'd been a Broadway & MGM contract star. She was middle aged when she turned to porn and looked older than present day Sharon. She fled New York when Deep Throat became a crossover hit and waitressed in the middle of nowhere until succumbing to cancer. She was apparently bipolar as well.

by Anonymousreply 124September 4, 2017 2:15 AM

It's really too bad Sharon was not cast as Joan Crawford in Feud. She is the right age and could easily look like Joan with makeup. Sharon is definitely in her mom phase and I wish her well.

by Anonymousreply 125September 4, 2017 2:22 AM

r59, the aneurysm that ruptured? Are you saying she faked that? That is a serious accusation.

by Anonymousreply 126September 4, 2017 2:29 AM

Looks like Lola has cankles too based on R101's photo

by Anonymousreply 127September 4, 2017 2:48 AM

Kathleen Turner was a real actress. There is no comparison.

by Anonymousreply 128September 4, 2017 4:17 AM

Casino, Basic Instinct and The Muse were probably the only times that she really acted well, with Casino being the best performance-actually a great one.

by Anonymousreply 129September 4, 2017 4:23 AM

Ive never seen the film. Did she really show her pussy? Really, really?

by Anonymousreply 130September 4, 2017 4:36 AM

The movie is terrible. But kinda trashy hot. She shows her bush mostly. No true pussy lips

by Anonymousreply 131September 4, 2017 4:38 AM

I remember Total Recall being the film that first put Sharon Stone on the map--it was an Arnie pix, but it made a huge amount of money and Stone popped in it as the bad girl. The brunette love interest, on the other hand, just disappeared.

She then followed it up with Basic Instinct, which was the movie everybody talked about and saw.

Her following movie, Sliver, bombed, BUT it had a decent opening--and the ability to open a movie is what determines star power.

She then had multiple bombs, but nabbed an Oscar supporting nom for Casino, which gave her a bit more respectability, but not more bankability.

Someone asked about Michelle Pfeiffer. Pfeiffer had more than two successful movies--she broke through with Scarface, got more notice with Dangerous Liaisons. She headlined Married to the Mob and Dangerous Minds, some years apart and both made money. Batman Returns was as much her movie as Michael Keaton's. Fabulous Baker Boys got her good notices. Same with Age of Innocence.

She was and is less of a flash in the pan than Stone.

by Anonymousreply 132September 4, 2017 5:01 AM

Pfeiffer is actually a good actress. Or was anyway. Sharon Stone is always playing Sharon Stone. She's just not very good. Even her big scene- yelling at James Woods in Casino - is poorly acted.

by Anonymousreply 133September 4, 2017 5:06 AM

Again enough with the comparisons. Michelle Pfieffer was gorgeous but a really good actor. Sharon Stone is neither in her or Kathleen Turner's world. These women actually understood what it meant to build a character. Stone was just beautiful and hot. That's okay too. But no. They are not colleagues of hers.

by Anonymousreply 134September 4, 2017 5:14 AM

Bush? Looks near bald to me...

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by Anonymousreply 135September 4, 2017 5:17 AM

Ask George Clooney. Has he ever carried a movie? Yet he's Hwood royalty.

by Anonymousreply 136September 4, 2017 5:21 AM

Clooney has never opened a film. It's crazy to me Hollywood doesn't notice. His money making movies have been genre or him handcuffing himself to his famous friends. He secured Ocean success by colluding with his pals Pitt, Roberts, Damon and Soderberg. And at the time he was less than all of them. This is manipulative calculating person.

by Anonymousreply 137September 4, 2017 5:38 AM

[quote] Stone was just beautiful and hot. That's okay too. But no. They are not colleagues of hers.

I don't think she's a bad actress, at all. She has an incredible amount of screen presence and sometimes it works against her. But I've seen her opposite some serious heavy hitters and she's always held her own..... Russell Crowe, Robert DeNiro, Gene Hackman, Richard Gere, James Woods, and Michael Douglas.

by Anonymousreply 138September 4, 2017 5:38 AM

Don't you mean held their member?

by Anonymousreply 139September 4, 2017 5:44 AM

Is this the slutty "actress" who tried to steal my thunder while I was lighting crack pipes and taking DDL prime dick

by Anonymousreply 140September 4, 2017 5:56 AM

Out of Sight opened pretty well. Gravity opened really well. So, yes, George Clooney can open a film, though, admittedly, his biggest films have other big stars in them. He's shrewd about how he manages his career. He stays bankable with the Ocean's films and then mixes in prestige pix. Unlike a lot of people, he seems to have an eye for a script--and he gets what kind of parts he plays effectively.

by Anonymousreply 141September 4, 2017 6:12 AM

Gravity was not a success because him or Bullock were in it. He's actually terrible in it. The movie was like Titanic. A visual, special effects success with recognizable talent.

by Anonymousreply 142September 4, 2017 6:16 AM

A-List involves more than just making money. First, she DID make money with Basic Instinct, and Casino probably eventually did. Second, she won an Oscar. Third, she was glamorous and a red carpet fave for a while.

Times were different. Now being A-List means you were cast in Marvel movie.

by Anonymousreply 143September 4, 2017 6:21 AM

Puleeeze this whore never won an Oscar. She's lucky she was nominated one time.

by Anonymousreply 144September 4, 2017 6:25 AM

That's right, Golden Globe. Big mistake.

by Anonymousreply 145September 4, 2017 6:27 AM

[quote]but nabbed an Oscar supporting nom for Casino

She was nominated for Lead, not Supporting.

by Anonymousreply 146September 4, 2017 6:32 AM

Stone was never the IT girl. She got lots of attention deservedly so when BI became a thing. But Julia was still the IT girl of the time. Ask any Frau.

by Anonymousreply 147September 4, 2017 6:35 AM

Say what you will about Stone, but she was fantastic in Basic Instinct. She oozed charisma and had great screen presence. You could see why people were drawn to Catherine.

Stone did a funny interview around the time BI was released - either with Movieline or Premiere - and she went through all of her films up to that point. For each role she would start off "I played a blonde who..."

by Anonymousreply 148September 4, 2017 6:44 AM

At one stage she was offered all the parts Greta Scacchi rejected

Was she on the payroll for the gap?

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by Anonymousreply 149September 4, 2017 6:54 AM

God she looks like trash there.

by Anonymousreply 150September 4, 2017 6:59 AM

Gravity gave Bullock a serious career boost, so I'd say it was not simply a special-effects movie. Titanic gave both Winslet and diCaprio career boosts--Winslet got an Oscar nomination, so I'd say that wasn't just a special-effects movie either. On the other hand, I can't even remember who starred in Avatar--definitely a special-effects movie.

by Anonymousreply 151September 4, 2017 7:03 AM

Honey no one went to see Gravity because that boring lesbian chick was in it. No way. They went just like me cause it was a special effects triumph.

by Anonymousreply 152September 4, 2017 7:06 AM

Winslet was laughable in Titanic. Both Ally Sheedy and Julia Roberts should've been nominated over her and Helen Cunt that year. Both Siskel and Ebert campaigned for them.

by Anonymousreply 153September 4, 2017 7:16 AM

[quote]On the other hand, I can't even remember who starred in Avatar

Probably because the humans were in the movie for about a minute. 99% of the movie featured the VFX-generated Na'vi creatures.

by Anonymousreply 154September 4, 2017 7:48 AM

She was around for a decade before Basic Instinct. I think it was Paul Verhoeven who told her she needed to get serious about being An Actress.

Yet... we're still waiting for That Role that we know she's capable of. And it never comes. She's the biggest thing that never happened.

Charlize Theron basically took the baton from her and ran with it.

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by Anonymousreply 155September 4, 2017 8:08 AM

R155 Casino was that role

by Anonymousreply 156September 4, 2017 8:10 AM

Stop it, R151, just stop it. I don't want to hear about Boost. I don't like that stuff. I like Yoohoo. Gravity gave Sandwich a serious bank account BOOM. 70 million smackers she snatched from that spaceship buffet. Massive windfalls are one of my favorite things. Whenever I think about Candy Bagfulls, err, ahem, whenever I think about Sandy Bullock's big whopper windfall I somehow get wistful. Where is the chip thread?

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by Anonymousreply 157September 4, 2017 8:40 AM

Good interview with Katie Couric from 15 years ago. She seems grateful just to work, and doesn't care to be on the A-list anymore.

What happened to the cute hubby?

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by Anonymousreply 158September 4, 2017 9:19 AM

Meanwhile Sharon keeps dancing away!!!! When I think of her, I just think of her and Ellen having sex in the HBO movie back in the day. Shudder....

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by Anonymousreply 159September 4, 2017 9:32 AM

Um really?

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by Anonymousreply 160September 4, 2017 9:35 AM

Her 'acting' reminds me so much of Joan Crawford's: incredibly phony; though I think Crawford could be more convincing, probably because her phoniness had a desparate, people-pleasing quality to it, whereas Stone always comes across as smug. They were both at their best when they were playing shallow and callous and not attempting to be earnest.

by Anonymousreply 161September 4, 2017 10:04 AM

[quote]I also wondered (perhaps DL sleuths would know) if this was when Greta Scacchi fled town, rejecting the sexy, ice queen mold Hollywood was fashioning for her.

Greta Scacchi said way back around the time of Presumed Innocent that the reason she came to Hollywood in the first place was because she kept losing roles she wanted due to not being a name. She'd been in art house hits, so she'd come to the attention of various industry people, but it would come down to her and somebody more famous, and she'd lose out. The directors wanted her for the parts but the studios would say no. So taking on all these mainstream projects was an attempt to get over that. But she wasn't able to turn her Presumed Innocent success into the kind of status she wanted, and around that time she became pregnant by Vincent D'onofrio, with whom she had a tumultuous relationship and a custody battle that apparently left her depressed and fucked up for several years. Then I think her priorities realigned with motherhood and she just went back to doing her art house/British TV thing.

by Anonymousreply 162September 4, 2017 10:11 AM

Sharon on how she got the role in Basic Instinct... She's enough.

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by Anonymousreply 163September 4, 2017 10:17 AM

Screen Test for Basic Instinct. Vids are always better then boring words written by elders opinions. :)

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by Anonymousreply 164September 4, 2017 10:20 AM

Thin hair, arrogant, mediocre actor, generally annoying....I guess studios didnt want to be bothered.

by Anonymousreply 165September 4, 2017 10:21 AM

Oops, sorry, OP, you asked WHY she was hot. Well, two words: "crotch shot."

by Anonymousreply 166September 4, 2017 10:22 AM

It was also annoying when she did that coy victim thing once "Basic Instinct" was released -- saying she was "tricked" into doing that shot. Didn't know the camera was down there. Even Kirstie Alley made fun of her on some late night show, imitating how the light guy has a measuring tape up to Stone's "triangle" and she doesn't know they are shooting down there?

All that talk about how that shot was about empowerment (bullshit in and of itself) and then Stone acts like some abused schoolgirl. When I knew she was a bit nuts.

by Anonymousreply 167September 4, 2017 3:11 PM

Thanks, R162.

Had no idea Greta was already on Mainstream Hollywood's radar before Presumed Innocent. Too bad she was passed over for name actresses before that.

I love her work in the Brit/art house films. I think Emma was the first thing I saw her in post-femme fatale.

I also thought she was great as Countess Rostova in Last year's War and Peace miniseries.

by Anonymousreply 168September 4, 2017 7:18 PM

I think Greta Scacchi's biggest barrier to making it big in Hollywood was the fact that she fucked and had a baby with her first cousin.

by Anonymousreply 169September 4, 2017 9:34 PM

Because like George Clooney, in person, they have a lot of charisma.

by Anonymousreply 170September 4, 2017 9:45 PM

FYI, Stone didn't know they were going upskirt for the filming in that scene, she was pretty upset about it.

by Anonymousreply 171September 4, 2017 10:14 PM

Right, R171, see R167 above. If you believe her, I have some swamp land to sell you.

If you've ever worked on a movie set, you know that is bullshit. And she would've had a modesty patch per SAG rules if spelled out full frontal nudity was not in her contract.

by Anonymousreply 172September 4, 2017 10:30 PM

I will always love Sharon Stone for her conversation with Amanda Seyfried which was overheard. Stone told Seyfried that she could be one of the greats like Judi Dench. But if she started plastic surgery now, she would need to maintain it for the rest of her life. And they always need older actresses with wrinkles--like Judii Dench. So if she wants to be one of the greats, she may want to lay off having any plastic surgery.

That struck me as both kind and savvy, especially since she was an actress who DID have plastic surgery at a young age.

by Anonymousreply 173September 4, 2017 11:32 PM

R91 It made my night that you showed up here to give us the definitive Gap/Sharon Stone details. You're a DL classic.

by Anonymousreply 174September 4, 2017 11:40 PM

R167 - Sharon was not "tricked" per the exposure of her junk during filming of the BI interrogation scene:

In JE's booked, he writes about the lead up to said scene, " . . . In the preparation for the scene, Sharon had approached me, dressed in a white dress, holding her right hand behind her back. She presented her right hand to me, delivering her balled up panties in my hand, saying, "I won't be needing these today."

by Anonymousreply 175September 4, 2017 11:54 PM

I don't really care whether she knew it was going to be an upskirt shot or not, but that story sounds fake. Too elaborate. Why wouldn't she just leave them off instead of taking them to the set and handing them of to him?

by Anonymousreply 176September 5, 2017 12:18 AM

*off* to him

by Anonymousreply 177September 5, 2017 12:18 AM

She was flirting, R176, and eventually Joe had her. She apparently said, "Why didn't you come along ten years ago?", knowing she was too old to cash in much then. (For whatever reason, I believe every word in Joe E's book/s).

by Anonymousreply 178September 5, 2017 12:21 AM

"Winslet was laughable in Titanic. Both Ally Sheedy and Julia Roberts should've been nominated over her and Helen Cunt that year. Both Siskel and Ebert campaigned for them."

You really think Julia Roberts is a better actress than Kate Winslet? Really? I personally think Winslet was very good in Titanic, despite being stuck with such cliched dialogue.

by Anonymousreply 179September 5, 2017 1:02 AM

SS claims Paul Verhoven told her the white panties were causing acglare on the camera. He promised her there would be no beaver in the shot. This story always seemed dubious to me, since she was wearing a white dress. I think she knew her bare crotch would be in the film and did not care. It catapulted her to fame but limited her career choices.

by Anonymousreply 180September 5, 2017 1:09 AM

Interesting screen test. You can tell that she had a ton of presence in it, even if her acting was just okay.

by Anonymousreply 181September 5, 2017 1:23 AM

Mariel Hemmingway write in her biography she auditioned over and over again for the part in Basic Instinct and was DEVASTATED she didn't get the part

by Anonymousreply 182September 5, 2017 1:30 AM

Rebecca Romijn(-Stamos) now that's a flash in the pan career

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by Anonymousreply 183September 5, 2017 1:45 AM

R179 Julia is not a better actress than Winslet. But that year she was better and the character she played in MBFW was better than Winselt's ludicrously written character in Titanic. Every character was a total cliche. It almost seemed deliberate.

by Anonymousreply 184September 5, 2017 3:14 AM

So now we hate Sharon Stone? Gay men are miserable. No, she's not an insane talent, but she's fine and seems like a decent enough person.

by Anonymousreply 185September 5, 2017 4:25 AM

I like Stone but I can't disagree with the OP. It always felt like people were waiting for Stone to have a hit or another iconic role like Basic Instinct and it never happened. Sliver had a great soundtrack but it was marred by reshoots and people weren't interested. The Specialist did okay but it's barely remembered. She was great as the conniving, shrewish wife in Casino but there wasn't much after.

by Anonymousreply 186September 5, 2017 4:33 AM

[QUOTE]Despite an Oscar nod, that was a flop too

Casino was NOT a flop, you nitwit. And it's one of the greatest movies ever made.

by Anonymousreply 187September 5, 2017 4:51 AM

R175 I don't buy that story at all . There is no way someone as ambitious as SS would hand off her underwear to a writer. If she did that to anyone it would been Verhoven.

R178 I doubt she fucked JE either. He was and is butt ugly and could not have done anything for her career.

I don't believe SS's story either. I am with R172. All of this gets negotiated long before any of these people reach the set.

by Anonymousreply 188September 5, 2017 5:36 AM

[quote]Had no idea Greta was already on Mainstream Hollywood's radar before Presumed Innocent. Too bad she was passed over for name actresses before that.

Heat and Dust came out in 1983, and Merchant-Ivory films always got attention and admiration from Hollywood directors and creative types. Then in 1987 she had three films back-to-back that got a lot of the film festival sort of attention that the industry takes note of: White Mischief, Good Morning Babylon and Diane Kurys' A Man in Love. So she was probably getting brought up in casting meetings for a while, even though it wasn't materializing into roles for her.

The relationship and child with her first cousin came long after Presumed Innocent, when she had already sort of taken herself off the Hollywood radar. I think they're still together too.

One of my favorite films of hers is Salt On Our Skin (released in the US as Desire). A beautiful love story, worth seeking out if you're a fan.

by Anonymousreply 189September 5, 2017 6:31 AM

I think she would have had a longer career had she taken more comedic roles. She became a sex symbol at 34, the half life on that was bound to be short - and she never got beyond the type even though she's proven she can do more.

All that said, Interesection is one of the most laughable trying to be serous movies ever. But Stone and Gere are capable of being quite terrible and boy were they ever.

by Anonymousreply 190September 5, 2017 6:51 AM

R188 You are pretty dim aren't you?

by Anonymousreply 191September 5, 2017 7:51 AM

R188

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by Anonymousreply 192September 5, 2017 8:43 AM

I read JE's book too. I think he wrote that Stone eventually fucked him after the success of BI. As a payback because she owed him.

by Anonymousreply 193September 5, 2017 12:09 PM

I've been watching some of her 80s b-movies again (Tears in the Rain, Sleeping Dogs) and it's fascinating how she elevates the mediocre material. She just had a classiness, a regal quality that sets her apart. I guess back in the days that she was hungry she still had plenty to prove.

Would be interesting to guess how her career might have panned out if not for Basic Instinct, as she was already starting to get more tasty, showier roles that were well suited to her in films like Scissors and Diary of a Hit Man.

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by Anonymousreply 194September 5, 2017 12:28 PM

she might be a diva and hard to work with but the response she gave to the infamous Madonna's letter was pure class. She was great.

by Anonymousreply 195September 5, 2017 12:38 PM

I LOVE her in Sleeping Dogs, a hilariously bad B movie which is based on that murder of the family in that house in Los Feliz.

She is mesmerizing in her scenes...I wanted more.

by Anonymousreply 196September 5, 2017 12:52 PM

I agree that she should do more comedies. She is a klutzy delight in her episode of If These Walls Could Talk 2.

by Anonymousreply 197September 5, 2017 3:00 PM

Her performance in Total Recall was Oscar worthy.

by Anonymousreply 198September 5, 2017 3:35 PM

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by Anonymousreply 199September 5, 2017 3:53 PM

Clooney is Hollywood gold, no matter what. He's part of the elite group (like Tina Fey) who are darlings to the people behind the scenes, who control everything. One only has to read the Sony emails to see how Clooney can do no wrong even if he doesn't make them any money.

by Anonymousreply 200September 5, 2017 4:22 PM

[quote] Casino was NOT a flop, you nitwit. And it's one of the greatest movies ever made.

It was NOT a commercial success

by Anonymousreply 201September 5, 2017 4:25 PM

R49, Greta also aged very badly. I remember seeing her in some PBS show 20 years after White Mischief, when both she and Charles Dance were perfect. Her sagging chin and matronly figure were disappointing. Dance has gone the same way. Meanwhile Sharon Stone continued to look amazing.

by Anonymousreply 202September 5, 2017 4:43 PM

Casino grossed 116M worldwide, so not a flop but a pretty middling success.

by Anonymousreply 203September 5, 2017 5:05 PM

R137, he made Good Night and Good Luck. His father had been in local news and Hollywood respected the film, which was very good. He had a business partner and did production, when not a lot of people were doing it as a business instead of a one-off. There was also a time when he looked like a Cary Grant of today and the film community loved that as well. With Rosemary Clooney as his aunt, he was looking like part of a dynasty, which Hollywood likes as well. He didn't need to be hitched to his friends to be a success. In fact, it was the other way around with some of those actors.

by Anonymousreply 204September 5, 2017 5:06 PM

[quote] Casino grossed 116M worldwide

Peanuts when you have a movie like Batman Forever gross over 300 Million worldwide

by Anonymousreply 205September 5, 2017 5:08 PM

R199, does anyone remember Madeleine Stowe when she started out as having snaggle teeth? In early films I could barely keep track of the plot for staring at her teeth in disbelief. Then. later in some made for TV thing when she played a mother, her teeth had been fixed.

by Anonymousreply 206September 5, 2017 5:09 PM

"Greta also aged very badly. I remember seeing her in some PBS show 20 years after White Mischief, when both she and Charles Dance were perfect. Her sagging chin and matronly figure were disappointing. Dance has gone the same way. Meanwhile Sharon Stone continued to look amazing."

I think Greta looks okay for a woman pushing 60. Dance is in his 70s and I don't think he looks bad for his age, either.

by Anonymousreply 207September 6, 2017 12:51 AM

[QUOTE]Peanuts when you have a movie like Batman Forever gross over 300 Million worldwide

You're seriously gonna sit there and compare Casino to Batman Forever? LMAO. I take it you were born in the 90's as well.

Casino is a three-hour long, hard-R gangster epic, laced with profanity and gore. The type of movie parents are warned to keep their kids away from. And because it's so long you can only show it a limited amount of times per day. Batman Forever is an hour shorter and a PG-13 piece of shit summer popcorn movie for families--that means it had more showings per day, wider theater availability and probably quadruple the marketing budget, including kids meal toys at McDonalds. They're two completely different vehicles.

Considering everything that Casino had going against it, it did damn good. More importantly it's withstood the test of time as one of the finest films Martin Scorsese ever made. And I personally think it was one of the last few times where De Niro looked like De Niro.

by Anonymousreply 208September 6, 2017 1:15 AM

R208 Indeed, Casino is a cult classic too, among a diverse crowd (ghetto white & black boys who want to be gangsta, gays for Sharon's style and cinephiles)

by Anonymousreply 209September 6, 2017 1:52 AM

I'm actually a fan of Basic Instinct 2. I didn't really like the way Stone played Catherine, though, in the sequel. She was too serious, too stiff and seemed uncomfortable. She lacked the confidence and sex appeal that made her 1992 performance so memorable. But David Morrissey was hot in it and I loved the London setting. It wasn't as bad as critics made it out to be.

by Anonymousreply 210September 6, 2017 2:11 AM

[quote] black boys who want to be gangsta

In my entire life, I've never heard a black man make a reference to Casino in any context. Scarface is another matter...

by Anonymousreply 211September 6, 2017 3:10 AM

r211. YAAS! That or Godfather movies. Ugh.

by Anonymousreply 212September 6, 2017 3:13 AM

R208 then it is unfair to say Casino was a box office hit, because clearly it wasn't.

Casino only made $42 million domestically, and with an all-star cast it was clearly a commercial flop.

by Anonymousreply 213September 6, 2017 3:21 AM

Casino is sometimes seen as a lesser Goodfellas. It's not a bad film but it was for me when Scorsese started to become less interesting as a director.

But I thought Stone was great in it. She held her own with De Niro and Pesci.

by Anonymousreply 214September 6, 2017 3:26 AM

Stone must have had the world's greatest publicist.

by Anonymousreply 215September 6, 2017 3:27 AM

Gays go wild for Sharon Stone's wardrobe in Casino?!

by Anonymousreply 216September 6, 2017 3:27 AM

I don't think Stone needed the world's greatest publicist. Flashing the gash did all of the work. Full frontals were usually accompanied by bush so no vagina was even seen. People went wild. In Italy she was dubbed "La Vagina", which translates as... well, never mind.

by Anonymousreply 217September 6, 2017 3:30 AM

Actually, R217, in Italy they say "bello fico" which is slang for nice pussy.

by Anonymousreply 218September 6, 2017 3:36 AM

La Stone in "Casino." She gave the role her all. She knew it was her last chance for an Oscar, let alone her only opportunity to land a leading role, any role, in a film directed by Scorsese.

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by Anonymousreply 220September 6, 2017 3:59 AM

Did stone get any good cock?

Was there REALLY a basic instinct sequel? When?

What did helena say backstage when stone was a bride for valentino on his catwalk? Was she worried hutchence and stone would cross paths?

by Anonymousreply 221September 6, 2017 5:28 AM

R221 2006

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by Anonymousreply 222September 6, 2017 5:34 AM

R210 - I too liked Basic Instinct 2 but unlike you, I thought David Morrissey had zero sex appeal.

by Anonymousreply 223September 6, 2017 11:33 AM

Interesting/

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by Anonymousreply 224September 7, 2017 3:04 AM

She was pretty great in Basic Instinct and Casino, whether the movies are good or not.

by Anonymousreply 225September 7, 2017 3:34 AM

It is strange that despite being a supposedly big movie star, she was offered so few roles. She's must be a real pain.

by Anonymousreply 226September 7, 2017 3:43 AM

Kelly Lynch could have been Catherine Tramell... u mad?

Kelly Lynch knows why she was cast in 1988’s Cocktail.

“It was one of those parts that models get because my audition was [wearing] various bikinis,” the actress, whose background was in modeling and children’s theater, tells PEOPLE.

After acting opposite Tom Cruise, she got steamy with Patrick Swayze in 1989’s Road House. “To do your first two films with Patrick Swayze and Tom Cruise, who are both — were, in Patrick’s case — really amazing sweet and kind, guys, I loved working with both of them,” says Lynch, now 58. “They were really, really fun.”

But it wasn’t until the Minnesotan received a call from her mom that she knew she’d hit her stride in Hollywood. “My mother called me up when I was doing Desperate Hours with Mickey Cimino and Mickey Rourke, and she said, ‘Kelly you’ve made it!’ ” Lynch explains. “And I was thinking, ‘Oh my gosh, something really amazing must’ve happened.’ ”

The “amazing” instance: “She went, ‘You’re on the cover of the [National] Enquirer holding hands with Mickey Rourke.”

Despite explaining that the two were simply acting on set in the photo, Lynch’s mom continued to show the magazine to “everyone at the grocery store,” adds the star.

Lynch went on to appear as a drug addict in Drugstore Cowboy, which she calls, “my favorite movie in my career.”

“Really complicated characters where the humor is dark — that’s when I’m in heaven,” she says, adding that critics loved the 1989 crime drama, too. “Roger Ebert almost trampled me trying to get to me at the Toronto Film Festival to say, ‘This is my favorite movie.’ ”

In the midst of her newfound fame, Lynch raised daughter Shane, now 32, which caused her to reconsider her career. “Like Katharine Hepburn said, ‘You can be a wife, a mother or an actor, but you can only be two of the three,’ ” Lynch continues. “That definitely happened [to me]. I would just say no to things to be with Shane.”

Most notably, Lynch passed on the lead role in the 1992 erotic thriller Basic Instinct. “As interesting and titillating as I thought that movie was, with a kid you just make different decisions,” she explains. “But I don’t regret a bit of that.”

Shane, now an actor, writer and animator, was up for a role in a recent David Lynch project — as was mom. “She got the part, I didn’t,” Kelly recalls. “But I was super proud!”

From 2012–13, both Lynch ladies worked together on Magic City, which was created by husband of 25 years, Mitch Glazer. Next up, as star Mr. Mercedes (based on the Stephen King novel of the same name), Kelly gets to further explore the troubled characters she loves as an agoraphobic widow sleeping with her son (Harry Treadaway).

“When you first meet our characters you’re kind of horrified,” she admits. “But at the end of this story, you feel for both of those. You’ll see the humanity in both of us, even in our relationship.”

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by Anonymousreply 227September 7, 2017 6:28 AM

A younger Sharon Stone would've been dynamite as the lead in Showgirls.

by Anonymousreply 228September 7, 2017 2:13 PM

Broken Flowers was an independent Jim Jarmusch ensemble comedy but Sharon was good in her scenes. And the film was a success. Not a megahit but it recovered its costs.

by Anonymousreply 229September 7, 2017 2:23 PM

She claims she wasn't a beauty or considered sexy yet her first role was Stardust Memories where she played a beautiful woman that waves to Woody Allen and blows him a kiss. She really is full of it.

by Anonymousreply 230September 7, 2017 2:38 PM

Well, she was gorgeous and very classic looking. Like if Grace Kelly showed her pussy.

And Basic Instinct wasn't just a hit, it was a cultural phenomenon. When you're marked with that, it doesn't fade for a while.

The Gap thing was also a cultural phenomenon, a real lightning bolt. I was working at the Gap in college at the time. They made run after run of that damn black shirt and they all sold out for like two years after.

She also did a lot of AmFAR charity work, so she was front and center at the benefits, working Old Hollywood glamour.

Iconic movie + iconic fashion moment + prominent charity = comfortable A list spot. She wasn't just a dumb starlet with a hit movie, she really worked pop culture from a number of angles.

by Anonymousreply 231September 7, 2017 3:05 PM

Always wondered what happened to Kelly Lynch. She was hot. I liked her.

by Anonymousreply 232September 7, 2017 3:29 PM

LOVE Drugstore Cowboy.

by Anonymousreply 233September 7, 2017 6:50 PM

[quote] Iconic movie + iconic fashion moment + prominent charity = comfortable A list spot.

While Basic Instinct was a commercial success, it is NOT an iconic movie (or even a cult film) by any stretch.

It is a piece of garbage.

by Anonymousreply 234September 7, 2017 8:04 PM

Who knew you could become a movie star just by not wearing your panties?

by Anonymousreply 235September 7, 2017 8:11 PM

Sharon Stone was INSTANTLY international. My take is that she somehow magically benefitted from Madonna also becoming an INTERNATIONAL superstar. Sexy blond cunts. Stone was the first international MILF. I worked in the Middle East. All the arab young men were fans of SHARON STONE. They wanted to FUCK Sharon Stone and then a few years later it was Britney Spears. Men around the world want to fuck the blond cunt. Doesn't matter if she's a bottle blond or 20 or 40 it seems. Stone had great PR management and rode the AIDS charity bandwagon to influence in jet-setting parties. She was THE hostess of AMFAR benefits from the mid 90s on. Those were also MAJOR fashion rat fucks and sort of like mini MET Balls of their time.

by Anonymousreply 236September 7, 2017 8:18 PM

But R236 studios do not care how many AIDS charities you go to. The bottom line is box office. And Sharon Stone was box office POISON. Yet she still got the A-list scripts.

by Anonymousreply 237September 7, 2017 8:21 PM

Sharon Stone was never labelled as Box Office Poison, for whatever reason. She doesn't go down in history as the star of celebrated bombs. And how do you know she go A-List scripts? If the scripts were such A-list, why did they all bomb? She wasn't a crappy actress, nor was she a great actress. I can't think of that many (any) "A-list movies" she shot which turned out to be bombs.

by Anonymousreply 238September 7, 2017 8:26 PM

[quote] Sharon Stone was never labelled as Box Office Poison, for whatever reason.

She had not one, not two, not even three. But FOUR FLOPS IN A ROW

Sliver, Intersection, The Specialist, The Quick and the Dead,

Then after Casino she had THREE FLOPS IN A ROW

Diabolique, Last Dance, Sphere

You don't call that box office poison?

by Anonymousreply 239September 7, 2017 8:29 PM

Of course she was in many flops. But she was never known as box office poison. I know whereof I speak, dahling.

by Anonymousreply 240September 7, 2017 8:32 PM

Were they A-list scripts? If you think of the premiere Oscar bait of the 90s, she wasn't even near it except for Casino.

by Anonymousreply 241September 7, 2017 8:51 PM

If she had won an Academy Award, she would have continued to work. Poor Halle Berry. Has the award and still faded quickly away. Anyone try watching that premium series a few years bad. Boy was that meh.

by Anonymousreply 242September 7, 2017 9:04 PM

a few years back.... Extant. Completely forgettable WHILE i was watching it.

by Anonymousreply 243September 7, 2017 9:05 PM

She's really not a bad actress. Just limited, as most actors are. No one did the sexy femme fatale better than Stone and no one these days can pull it off without looking ridiculous.

I don't know if having an Oscar would have made a difference. As mentioned previously, it didn't do Halle Berry any favors. I think it opens a few doors, but if you don't prove your worth and carry your weight, it's not going to help that much.

by Anonymousreply 244September 7, 2017 9:06 PM

I really liked most of Stone's "flops."

Even when she's bad, she's interesting to watch,

by Anonymousreply 245September 7, 2017 9:12 PM

R234: Basic Instinct was not trash. Or, better said, it was "trash" as intended by Verhoeven, who's a genius in his way to give people what they want (sex, blood, violence) while taking the piss on the audience. Basic Instinct is not only sexy, dangerous and tense, it's also one of the funniest exercises in trolling done by a major american movie. Watch it again.

by Anonymousreply 246September 7, 2017 9:55 PM

R231, Did you save any Gap In-Store Playlists from when you worked at Gap???

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by Anonymousreply 247September 7, 2017 10:09 PM

She was never the good girl everyone loved like me. And no...I was international not her.

by Anonymousreply 248September 9, 2017 6:16 AM

I remember being in France and overhearing several conversations about her next movie. Maybe Sliver or Quick and the Dead? Either way they fucking love her over there for some reason. I guess the French love of blond sex goddess.

by Anonymousreply 249September 9, 2017 12:24 PM

that is not what she says. r85

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by Anonymousreply 250September 13, 2017 3:26 AM

I just watched the Quick and the Dead for free at Crackle.

I love it.

by Anonymousreply 251September 13, 2017 3:28 AM

She was terrific in "The Quick and the Dead"--my favorite western.

by Anonymousreply 252September 13, 2017 6:15 AM

R236, are you part self hating Irish by any chance?

by Anonymousreply 253September 13, 2017 7:38 AM

R231, don't degenerate Grace. Never associate w/Sharon Stone the Shanty

by Anonymousreply 254September 13, 2017 7:40 AM

R250 see? Tatum O Neil No Germanic back drop like Grace Kelly. Perfect meld of Irish/German.

by Anonymousreply 255September 13, 2017 7:43 AM

Why has nobody mentioned Fatsuit Sharon Stone at the end of Alpha Dog?

by Anonymousreply 256September 15, 2017 1:03 AM

She was absolutely hilarious in Cold Creek Manor

by Anonymousreply 257September 15, 2017 1:54 AM

Because she's always had some fucking nerve!

by Anonymousreply 258September 15, 2017 6:01 AM

They should do a Sharon episode on Drag Race, with SS as a judge.

by Anonymousreply 259September 15, 2017 6:18 AM

Sharon Stone says that her time on 'Law & Order: SVU' was 'humiliating'

When Sharon Stone found herself in a recurring role on NBC's '"Law & Order: Special Victims Unit," she felt "humiliated."

The Oscar-nominated actress described the career low in a new interview with Harper's Bazaar, which has been making headlines for the 57-year-old actress' nude photo shoot in the magazine.

Fifteen years after being nominated for an Oscar for her role in "Casino," Stone found herself playing Assistant District Attorney Jo Marlowe on "SVU's" 11th season in 2010. In addition to dealing with the less glamorous side of procedural television compared to movies, she was having a hard time remembering her lines, the probable remains of surviving a brain aneurysm in 2001.

"That was humiliating," Stone told the magazine. "Having worked with the finest people in the industry, I was like, 'Wow, I'm really at the back of the line here. I'm wearing L'eggs panty hose, and in makeup they start out by putting this white primer on my face. I'm like, 'This is so bad. What did I do to deserve this?'"

Instead of continuing to feel horrible about where her career had ended up, Stone decided she needed to humble herself and deal with the reality that she would have to work her way back up the Hollywood ladder.

She said, "I thought, 'You know what? I got thrown off the bullet train, and now I'm going to have to crawl up a hill of broken glass, get back on the train that's going a million miles an hour, and work my way from the cattle car up. That's just the way it is, so I'd better get humble and shut the f--k up and do the job. Because if I can't do this job, I'm certainly not going to be able to do anything else.' "

by Anonymousreply 260November 24, 2017 1:53 AM

[quote] If you think of the premiere Oscar bait of the 90s

Last Dance where Sharon played a woman on death row. That is Oscar-bait if I ever saw one

by Anonymousreply 261November 24, 2017 1:54 AM

Miss Dunaway really goes after Michael Douglas in her biography. She was friends with Sharon Stone and coaching her back then. She felt Douglas should give Stone above the title billing with himself because the film was going to make Stone a star. She said Warren Beatty did this for her back on Bonnie and Clyde because he was generous and felt that film would make a star too.

Douglas refused and Dunaway recounts Stone being very hurt by that. Funny nowadays you say Basic Instinct and Stone is who comes to mind. Douglas is sort of forgotten.

by Anonymousreply 262November 24, 2017 2:05 AM

Last Dance always bugged me because they cut out Rob Morrow's full frontal nude scene in the final version.

by Anonymousreply 263November 24, 2017 2:06 AM

Sharon Stone will be on CBS Sunday Morning this AM to talk about her comeback

by Anonymousreply 264January 14, 2018 1:40 PM

She looks just as beautiful as ever. For 61 she's incredible.

by Anonymousreply 265January 14, 2018 1:54 PM

I kind of root for her because she is gorgeous, a little crazy and seems fun.

She has a Stephen Soderbergh produced series coming out called Mosaic. Anybody know anything about it?

by Anonymousreply 266January 14, 2018 2:25 PM

[quote] Anybody know anything about it?

Think "Choose your own adventure" where the public interacts with their screen and chooses/decides which way the plot goes.

by Anonymousreply 267January 14, 2018 2:30 PM

Sharon Stone is marvelous. She’s beautiful and a very talented actress. I saw many of her movies in the 1990s and I found them entertaining. Yes, some of them did poorly at the box office, but she shined in:

The Quick and the Dead

Casino

The Muse

Last Dance

Diabolique

Basic Instinct

Total Recall

She also brought back that old Hollywood glamour. She was breathtaking. It’s sad that she didn’t get comedic roles, because she could have a wonderful comedienne.

by Anonymousreply 268January 14, 2018 2:41 PM

The unrated DVD of 'Sliver' was re-released this Fall - I just ordered it!

Billy Baldwin in his 1993 prime...

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by Anonymousreply 269January 14, 2018 3:07 PM

Madeline Stowe during her time was the female Al Pacino: screaming one's lines does not equate to acting. Period.

by Anonymousreply 270January 14, 2018 3:40 PM

I kind of liked Sliver and the soundtrack was excellent. Apparently she owed Evans that movie. Yes she played the game. Someone up thread said she was the last of the studio system. Is that what someone upthread was referring to the Studio system? The studio system ended well before Stone. She wasn't contracted to a Studio.

by Anonymousreply 271January 14, 2018 4:09 PM

She was comedic in the Muse. I think it’s the genre she does best.

by Anonymousreply 272January 14, 2018 4:24 PM

She seems to be having a minor comeback with Mosaic on HBO and some Martin Scorsese movie in the works. Though the Scorsese film might be questionable as she has announced projects prematurely before (still waiting for that Marvel movie she said she signed on for).

by Anonymousreply 273January 14, 2018 4:25 PM

Gap and Sharon are timelessly classic!

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by Anonymousreply 274January 14, 2018 6:36 PM
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