This kind, please. What is the (sub-) genre?
What? A fan of Townes on DL? Who would have imagined.
by Anonymous | reply 1 | August 3, 2017 4:58 PM |
It is the first song I heard by him, r1. Any suggestions?
by Anonymous | reply 2 | August 3, 2017 6:26 PM |
I too am flabbergasted to find Townes getting a mention here. And someone actually wanting to explore country music! His best known song is probably Pancho and Lefty but he wrote many great ones. If you like him you could explore fellow Texan Guy Clark (LA Freeway, Anyhow I Love You, Desperadoes Waiting for the Train), along with Steve Earle (Guitar Town, Taneytown, Jerusalem). Gillian Welch is great (Look at Miss Ohio, Time the Revelator, My First Lover) and you might give some Lucinda Williams a try though I personally have gone off her (Crescent City, Sweet Old World, Side of the Road). And to go back a few or more decades, check out some Gram Parsons w/- Emmylou Harris (Love Hurts, $1000 Wedding, Return of the Grievous Angel, In My Time of Darkness). So many more but I'll pass the baton on to ... hopefully someone other than me and R1. The song titles are ones I'd recommend to get an idea what these people are like though they are all very eclectic. BTW, Guy Clark called Townes' lyrics 'hillbilly haiku'. Rosanne Cash (Johnny's daughter) is also excellent (Burn Down this Town, God is in the Roses, When the Master Calls the Roll). Happy (and melancholic) listening.
by Anonymous | reply 3 | August 3, 2017 6:44 PM |
PS The genre that these people operate in is usually referred to as Americana or alt-country but ironically it is more rooted in country music history than the crap that makes up the vast majority of what's referred to as 'country' these days. The people I like are generally considered outside the CMT tent, and I'm sure that's where they want to be.
by Anonymous | reply 4 | August 3, 2017 6:48 PM |
Here's one from 10 years ago, a country rocker by Randy Hauser
by Anonymous | reply 5 | August 3, 2017 6:49 PM |
The entire cosmic cowboy collection of singers coming out of Austin in the seventies was great. Try Jerry Jeff Walker, BW Stevenson, Mike Murphy and the list goes on. Townes was in a league of his own. I love, love, love the man and he was even from my hometown. Listen to Flyin shoes. One of my favorites.
by Anonymous | reply 6 | August 4, 2017 12:21 AM |
Try this. Rosanne Cash - What We Really Want
by Anonymous | reply 7 | August 4, 2017 12:38 AM |
Thank you all. I like this hard, dirty, depressing iteration of country music. And what is popularly known as country are the slick cheeseball stylings of Garth Brooks and Reba and Blake Shelton etc.
I was aware of Steve Earle because of Copperhead Road. Presumably his son Justin Townes Earle was named for Townes Van Zandt.
I guess Gram Prasons fits into the mix somehow but I have never known where to start with him.
And I love Right In Time, Can't Let Go and The Night's Too Long from Lucinda Williams, but admittedly little beyond that.
by Anonymous | reply 8 | August 4, 2017 8:12 AM |
Oh my God, I love Townes Van Zandt. Get his Live at the Old Quarter album, if you haven't already.
I was going to respond to the thread about music that makes your heart ache (or something like that) and I was going to mention Van Zandt, along with Emmylou Harris and Graham Parsons' "Love Hurts", Guy Clark's "L.A. Freeway" and a couple of Roseanne Cash songs. I figured there wasn't any point in actually posting. Can't believe R3 mentioned so many of the songs. I also love Neil Young, btw. You'd probably like "Cowgirl in the Sand."
Just sharing this for the hell of it.
by Anonymous | reply 9 | August 4, 2017 8:29 AM |
Hi OP, R3 again. No worries re the recommends. Myself and I'm sure the other fans of good country are more than happy to help out when someone wants to explore a genre we love. Yes, Steve Earle's son was named after Townes van Zandt. For a really sad song about his friend's death, there's this:
I also like his cover of Towne's Two Girls. The tribute album to him, Poet, is great.
With Gram and Emmylou, I'd first check out the two solo albums, GP and Grievous Angel. Dying young means there's not TOO much of a back catalogue. I'll post a couple of links in a subsequent post.
With Roseanne Cash I'd start with the most recent releases - Black Cadillac, The List and The River and the Thread.
by Anonymous | reply 11 | August 4, 2017 9:03 AM |
If you feel like wallowing in the pain of a broken heart you can't do better than this from Gram and Emmylou
by Anonymous | reply 12 | August 4, 2017 9:06 AM |
I love the strong Texas accent in song
by Anonymous | reply 14 | August 4, 2017 7:38 PM |
Wow! I had no idea so many Townes fans in the world much less on DL.
by Anonymous | reply 16 | August 4, 2017 11:02 PM |
Nanci Griffith performs Desperados Waiting For A Train with Guy Clark, Jimmie Dale Gilmore, Rodney Crowell, Eric Taylor, Jerry Jeff Walker and Steve Earle.
by Anonymous | reply 17 | August 6, 2017 8:29 PM |
If you pop back in OP, this is another band (husband and wife duo) well worth exploring.
by Anonymous | reply 18 | August 7, 2017 1:40 PM |
Thanks for the recommendations. This is real country, not the type that's playing on the radio.
by Anonymous | reply 19 | August 7, 2017 2:37 PM |
Yep, it is. I wouldn't even know what's 'popular' in mainstream country these days but I doubt I'd like it anyway. The other good thing about the people you've been recommended is that they don't fit into that 'country is conservative' pigeonhole. The lyrics are usually intelligent and the music is not generic. As Townes van Zandt apparently said, 'there's two types of music - the blues and zippeteedooda'.
by Anonymous | reply 20 | August 7, 2017 2:53 PM |
Any more recs?
by Anonymous | reply 21 | January 20, 2018 3:40 AM |
This song has everything White Trash: cousin fucking, giving kids booze to make 'em pass out, Meth labs, etc...Choctaw Bingo by James McMurtry
by Anonymous | reply 22 | January 20, 2018 4:10 AM |
Joe Ely is another one you should check out. Also, Hal Ketchum was pretty strongly influenced by Townes and that crowd.
by Anonymous | reply 23 | January 20, 2018 4:59 AM |
by Anonymous | reply 24 | January 20, 2018 5:00 AM |
Mr. Gram Parsons. So long gone, but never forgotten.
by Anonymous | reply 25 | January 20, 2018 5:10 AM |
Lone Justice used to be referred to as Cow Punk before the term Alt-Country and then Americana became vogue.
by Anonymous | reply 26 | January 20, 2018 5:28 AM |
I don't drink beer but I crave it when I listen to The Rock by Lee Roy Parnell and Lily's White Lies by Martin Delray. Country at its best.
by Anonymous | reply 27 | January 20, 2018 7:42 AM |
She’s not for everyone but I love Iris Dement
by Anonymous | reply 28 | January 20, 2018 7:58 AM |
I ADORE the Swedish sister duo First Aid Kit
by Anonymous | reply 29 | January 20, 2018 8:01 AM |
Patty Loveless had a lot of Nashville success but she has always been authentically country. Perfect name too.
by Anonymous | reply 30 | January 20, 2018 8:06 AM |
Margot Price, she's also performed with people from Willie Nelson to Jack White.
by Anonymous | reply 31 | January 20, 2018 5:34 PM |
(early) Rae Spoon (he's doing a bunch of folktronica now)
by Anonymous | reply 38 | January 21, 2018 1:42 AM |
I love this version of "YOU WERE ALWAYS ON M MIND"
by Anonymous | reply 43 | January 21, 2018 1:51 AM |
For a more popular/conventional radio artist, I have Kasey Musgraves. This song became an instant favorite of mine when it played on radio.
by Anonymous | reply 45 | January 21, 2018 1:59 AM |
Segueing from Musgraves, Brandi Carlile & John Prine
by Anonymous | reply 47 | January 21, 2018 2:06 AM |
Funny duet, r47. One more of Musgrave's and done. Love her lyrics
by Anonymous | reply 49 | January 21, 2018 2:14 AM |
This is a link to a very goofy album recreation of all the major audio from the film Nashville by a bunch of Vancouver musicians
by Anonymous | reply 50 | January 21, 2018 2:21 AM |
Scooter Incident with Brandi Carlile & Kacey Musgrave
by Anonymous | reply 51 | January 21, 2018 2:24 AM |
Listening to Townes at this moment. One band I fell in love with a few years back was the Continental Drifters with Vicki Peterson from the Bangles and Susan Cowsill among others. They do a great remake of Gram Parsons's, "A Song for You".
by Anonymous | reply 52 | January 21, 2018 2:34 AM |
A little more pop country, Rhett Miller with Rachael Yamagata
by Anonymous | reply 53 | January 21, 2018 2:34 AM |
Since R53 posted a Rhett song, I'm gonna post a Murry song for balance.
by Anonymous | reply 54 | January 21, 2018 2:43 AM |
Vnv Nation, Solar Fake, Eis Fabrik, Assemblage 23, and Rotorsand.
by Anonymous | reply 55 | January 21, 2018 3:31 AM |
Neko Case (her sub-genre would be Noir Twang)
by Anonymous | reply 56 | January 21, 2018 3:59 AM |
Enjoyable thread. In general, this stuff is called progressive country and Americana. There's a station in Santa Cruz and San Luis Obispo CA that has been devoted to this music for 25 years or so, the wonderful KPIG. They have a large online audience.
by Anonymous | reply 59 | January 21, 2018 5:03 AM |
For a little more Americana try Alejandro Escovedo's 13 Years.
by Anonymous | reply 60 | January 21, 2018 2:07 PM |
Frazey Ford, though she’s getting more (and brilliantly) rhythm and blues.
by Anonymous | reply 61 | March 28, 2018 4:45 AM |
(ahem)
by Anonymous | reply 62 | March 28, 2018 5:17 AM |
Another vote for both Nancy Griffith and Iris Demint - who was once described as “Nancy Griffith raised by wolves.”
If you are interested in Blue Grass, the late lamented Seldom Scene are a wonderful introduction. Go to YouTube to hear their epic version of “Rider.”
by Anonymous | reply 63 | March 28, 2018 5:37 AM |
More please.
by Anonymous | reply 64 | March 28, 2018 9:40 PM |
Listen to Loretta Lynn's last two albums. Brilliant, simple (unlike the previous one with Jack White, which also was excellent). It's a tutorial without the phony "hard-drinking, 4 a.m,, reaching for the coke" shit.
by Anonymous | reply 67 | March 28, 2018 9:59 PM |
Carrie Underwood - Miranda Lambert - Luke Bryan - Martina McBride - Reba - Kate Rusby
by Anonymous | reply 68 | March 28, 2018 10:03 PM |
R68, I am waiting for Miranda's time in the limelight to be over so that she can really be herself and fall into that category that currently includes Rosanne Cash, Lucinda, Emmylou. They have the respect of the industry and loyal followings that don't care if they never have another Top 40 Country hit.
R67, Ms Lynn's albums are fantastic with the Jack White produced Van Lear Rose being a perfect album.
by Anonymous | reply 69 | March 28, 2018 10:26 PM |
Of course this thread got over-run with shitty music. Every DL "music" thread is awful.
by Anonymous | reply 70 | March 28, 2018 11:35 PM |
Old great Loretta Lynn stuff. Fist City is brilliant.
Tammy's Your Good Girl is Gonna Go Bad and Dolly's Dumb Blonde - recorded when she was 20.
by Anonymous | reply 71 | March 28, 2018 11:38 PM |
"Deep Red Bells", a murder ballad by Neko Case
by Anonymous | reply 72 | March 28, 2018 11:41 PM |
With the exceptions of Lambert and McBride, R68 lists all that is WRONG with today's so-called "country music."
by Anonymous | reply 73 | March 29, 2018 3:40 AM |
This Is The Kit is hardly country.
by Anonymous | reply 76 | March 29, 2018 2:39 PM |
Everyone gave great recommendations. I would add two blogs to read for real country music: Saving Country Music and Country Universe. These two sites always have great offerings of country music.
by Anonymous | reply 77 | March 29, 2018 4:28 PM |
R68, OP asked for music similar to Townes Van Zandt, not Reba and Carrie.
by Anonymous | reply 78 | March 30, 2018 6:13 AM |
Rhiannon Giddens and the Carolina Chocolate Drops
by Anonymous | reply 79 | March 30, 2018 7:19 AM |
Well the sheriff came around in the middle of the night
Heard mama cryin', knew something wasn't right
He was headed down to Knoxville with the weekly load
You could smell the whiskey burnin' down Copperhead Road
by Anonymous | reply 80 | April 22, 2018 6:27 AM |
Casey Chambers and Shane Nicholson two albums are amazing.
by Anonymous | reply 81 | April 22, 2018 9:08 AM |
Thanks for the Casey Chambers and Shane Nicholson recommendation.
by Anonymous | reply 82 | April 22, 2018 5:38 PM |
Shake Russell and Gary P Nunn for more Texas music.
by Anonymous | reply 83 | April 22, 2018 5:45 PM |
The O'Kanes. This group was formed when two (living in) Nashville songwriters (Jamie O'Hara and Kieran Kane) joined together to produce their own album entitled 'The O'Kanes' which was released in 1986. They went on to release two more albums, both of which are worth having but the first is especially good. Excellent songs from the first album include Oh Darlin' , Daddies Need to Grow Up Too and When I Found You.
by Anonymous | reply 84 | April 22, 2018 6:51 PM |
Sturgill Simpson is a good choice. He won a Grammy for best country album a few years back. Plus, he's kinda hot.
by Anonymous | reply 85 | April 22, 2018 7:20 PM |
Ashley Monroe, like Kacey Musgraves, is another artist that doesn't get a lot of airplay...but is very talented.
by Anonymous | reply 86 | April 22, 2018 7:29 PM |
Jason Isbell is a favorite of mine. Here's a sample:
by Anonymous | reply 87 | April 22, 2018 8:41 PM |
Underrated Joan Baez album "one Day at a Time", with Jeffrey Shurtleff.
by Anonymous | reply 88 | April 22, 2018 8:45 PM |
Townes Van Zandt is one of those rare artists who never put out a bad record. I can only say that I've liked some more than others. In a life touched by alcoholism and a serious mood disorder he put his pain and wisdom (and sometimes humor) in every song. He was an artist to the core.
One of the few people I would compare him to is Gene Clark of the Byrds, Dillard & Clark and, briefly, the Flying Burrito Brothers. Gene went on to have an interesting solo career. Like Van Zandt, his life was haunted by mood issues and alcoholism. It killed him in his forties. He put out many great records and the one I would recommend first to a fan of Townes Van Zandt is entitled 'So Rebellious a Lover' which was a collaboration between Gene Clark and Carla Olson. Listen to 'Gypsy Rider' and 'Del Gato' and I guarantee that you'll be a fan for life.
by Anonymous | reply 89 | April 22, 2018 8:45 PM |
We got tickets to see Darlene McBride at the Odessa Permian Arena this summer.
by Anonymous | reply 91 | April 22, 2018 9:35 PM |
Patsy Cline and Hank Williams.....nothing else matters
by Anonymous | reply 92 | April 22, 2018 11:57 PM |
All the Federales say
They could have had him any day
They only let him slip away
Out of kindness, I suppose.
by Anonymous | reply 93 | April 23, 2018 12:31 PM |
BUMP
by Anonymous | reply 95 | September 20, 2018 4:10 PM |
Anything by the Zac Brown Band is nice. Country music leanings without being too twangy.
by Anonymous | reply 96 | September 20, 2018 4:13 PM |
Emmylou, Willie. Here is something interesting. Reba says her next album will be straight up country.
by Anonymous | reply 97 | October 9, 2018 1:18 AM |
I saw ZBB at a music festival and didn't love them, TBH. They put on a fine show, and played a bunch of covers (Deep Purple, Led Zepplin) but were kind of arena rock.
by Anonymous | reply 98 | November 4, 2018 11:18 AM |
Townes' song To Live is to Fly is probably my favorite song ever. Check out the Black Lillies. They are based in my city, really good, and the lead singer is really hot.
by Anonymous | reply 99 | November 4, 2018 11:24 AM |
Look up the old V-Roys stuff too. I believe Steve Earle was th producer on that. And new Scott Miller scott miller how am i gonna be me
by Anonymous | reply 100 | November 4, 2018 11:28 AM |
Resurrecting this thread because I heard my first Drive By Truckers song today.
by Anonymous | reply 102 | May 30, 2019 12:32 PM |
^^^ Huh.
So? Where ya been?
by Anonymous | reply 103 | May 31, 2019 7:07 AM |
"I sat tall in my saddle 'till my blister broke"
by Anonymous | reply 104 | May 31, 2019 11:25 AM |
BUMP
by Anonymous | reply 105 | November 20, 2019 2:20 AM |
Sera Cahoone's Only as the Day is Long is a fantastic album
by Anonymous | reply 106 | November 20, 2019 2:34 AM |
Another vote for Neko Case.
Fox Confessor Brings the Flood is my favorite of her albums
by Anonymous | reply 107 | November 20, 2019 2:36 AM |
I feel like John Hartford fits in here somewhere... he was the original songwriter of Gentle On My Mind, later made famous by Glen Campbell
by Anonymous | reply 108 | November 20, 2019 2:42 AM |
One from the past. The guy on the fiddle pings too.
by Anonymous | reply 111 | November 20, 2019 2:47 AM |
Gram Parsons is who got me into country music, and he remains at the top of my list.
Here are some other suggestions: Randy Travis, Dwight Yoakam, Lyle Lovett, Dolly Parton
Then there are the old classics like Johnny Cash, Willie Nelson, and Merle Haggard
And, the ones that are usually associated with rock and roll, but who also do a lot of country, like The Everly Brothers, Jerry Lee Lewis, or The Grateful Dead.
by Anonymous | reply 112 | November 20, 2019 3:59 AM |
I sat tall in my saddle 'til my blister broke
by Anonymous | reply 113 | November 20, 2019 4:38 AM |
I getting recommended Deer Tick after playing Gillian Welch. They seem like hipsters.
by Anonymous | reply 114 | November 21, 2019 10:34 PM |
Well this thread comes as a surprise, though I arrive a couple years late.
I’ll leave my favorite TVZ song, the stunningly sad and beautiful Snow Don’t Fall.
by Anonymous | reply 115 | November 21, 2019 11:10 PM |
Orville Peck.
Gay with a gimmick.
Shades of Roy Orbison, kd lang, and Wall of Voodoo, but also the Handsome Family cited upthread - albeit with less murder and more longing.
by Anonymous | reply 116 | November 22, 2019 1:25 AM |
R107 Also a Neko Case fan. The Fox Confessor Brings the Flood album is a great introduction.
by Anonymous | reply 117 | November 22, 2019 1:39 AM |
Old Crow Medicine Show
by Anonymous | reply 118 | December 3, 2019 4:05 AM |
I lived in Tennessee for a year (don't ask) and I think 90s country music was the best.
by Anonymous | reply 122 | December 3, 2019 6:00 AM |
My advice is to start with Gram Parsons. Realize that in his short career he had several bands, but they are ALL Gram: • His Solo Material included two albums: "G.P." and "Grievous Angel" • The Byrds: "Sweetheart of the Rodeo". This is when he commandeered The Byrds and basically turned them into a traditional country band. Research this subject and try to download the versions of the songs with Gram on vocals, because after the album was made The Byrds attempted to rip him off by removing his vocals from 80% of the songs • The Fallen Angels: "Live 1973" • The Flying Burrito Brothers was maybe his most successful band and included 3 albums, after which he abandoned the band, even though they continued to record: These are the albums when it was Gram's band: "Burrito Deluxe", "Sleepless Nights", and "The Gilded Palace of Sin". • The International Submarine Band: "Safe at Home". This was his first album. Note that all of the above material is classed as "traditional country".
by Anonymous | reply 123 | December 3, 2019 1:18 PM |
And here is and attempt at putting Gram Parson's albums into a list, though the makers of this forum have not become sophisticated enough at web page writing that what you post will come through how you wrote it!: • "G.P." by Gram Parsons • "Grievous Angel" by Gram Parsons • "Sweetheart of the Rodeo" by The Byrds • "Live 1973" by The Fallen Angels • "Burrito Deluxe" by The Flying Burrito Brothers • "Sleepless Nights: by The Flying Burrito Brothers • "The Gilded Palace of Sin" by The Flying Burrito Brothers • "Safe at Home" by The International Submarine Band
by Anonymous | reply 124 | December 3, 2019 2:09 PM |
You could start near the beginning: The Carter Family.
by Anonymous | reply 125 | December 3, 2019 2:17 PM |
Gram Parsons’ death was a great loss. He was incredibly talented. And hot, for that matter,
by Anonymous | reply 126 | December 3, 2019 4:41 PM |
Last few years I've really been enjoying Texas country/alt country more and more. Bands like Mickey and the Motorcars, Vandoliers, Wade Bowen, Randy Rogers Band, American Aquarium, Reckless Kelly. They all straddle the line between country and rock with a more authentic feel than most of what you hear out of Nashville. You get some great storytelling, but you also get some great Saturday night party tracks.
by Anonymous | reply 127 | December 3, 2019 6:29 PM |
Canadian country. The Dead South. I want the cello player to marry me just so I can wake up every day and look at his gorgeous face and body. Also so he will fuck me hard. He happens to be an engineer and doesn't always tour with them, because he's got some kind of high-powered job. You're welcome.
by Anonymous | reply 128 | December 4, 2019 6:21 AM |
I'm seeing The Dead South on Saturday! Looking forward to it -- and getting DP'ed by the cellist and the lead singer.
by Anonymous | reply 129 | January 6, 2020 9:33 PM |
R&B legend Solomon Burke recorded a country album called Nashville near the end of his life, and it’s pretty damn near perfect.
Witness his heartbreaking turn with Tammy Wynette’s Til I Get It Right.
All the worn sorrow with a glimmer of hope.
by Anonymous | reply 130 | January 6, 2020 9:55 PM |
The Jayhawks, Dawes, and The Avett Brothers for more recent stuff. Gene Clark, Gene Parsons, and especially Danny O'Keefe and Jerry Jeff Walker for older stuff. Danny O'Keefe wrote the classic "Good Time Charlie's Got the Blues." Also, Mickey Newberry.
by Anonymous | reply 131 | January 6, 2020 11:59 PM |
I never listened to country music growing up, but my old roommate bought the cd "Wynonna" from the mid-late 90s and it is incredible. Wynonna Judd is freaking incredible and her self-titled album is well worth buying.
by Anonymous | reply 133 | August 24, 2020 4:08 AM |
Emmylou Harris (along with Bill Danoff) wrote "Boulder to Birmingham" about Gram Parsons. It is one of her loveliest songs.
by Anonymous | reply 134 | August 24, 2020 4:22 AM |
Disclaimer: I hate country music. Some of the music is okay but the vocals with the accents kill my ears. That being said, there is one country song I like. It is by, all of people, The Pointer Sisters. This is the album version of "Fairytale" but there is a live in a TV studio version that is visually beautiful (the Pointers wore all those great 1940s costumes) but the album version uses more instruments.
by Anonymous | reply 135 | August 25, 2020 2:09 PM |
The television version:
by Anonymous | reply 136 | August 25, 2020 2:12 PM |
Emmylou Harris is such a lady. The juxtaposition of her with those wild Southern guys, tomboy Linda Rondstadt and showgirl Dolly Parton was always fascinating.
by Anonymous | reply 138 | December 25, 2020 5:09 PM |
Trio by Linda Ronstadt, Dolly Parton and Emmylou Harris is exceptional...as well as Heart Like A Wheel by Linda Ronstadt...a stunning album.
by Anonymous | reply 140 | December 25, 2020 5:22 PM |
Lyle Lovett - If I Had A Boat. It’s a bit Sting/Adult-Contemporary but I love him.
by Anonymous | reply 149 | June 9, 2021 12:43 AM |
Did anyone mention Buddy Miller? The song at OP’s post reminds me of him.
by Anonymous | reply 150 | June 9, 2021 1:09 AM |