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New Yorkers are the most nostalgic people in the world. Mention AZUMA and they start having orgasms...Part II.

this is Part II.

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by Anonymousreply 314December 31, 2018 12:16 AM

Bump

by Anonymousreply 1July 25, 2017 11:45 PM

I never had an orgasm at Azuma. But it was on Sixth Avenue.

by Anonymousreply 2July 26, 2017 2:52 AM

The Adonis.

by Anonymousreply 3July 26, 2017 4:20 AM

The Cheyenne Diner on 9th and 33rd. A real tin can but I loved it for weekend lunch. I ate there every day the last week it was open.

The Luna in Little Italy (NOT the Bella Luna, which was nearby). Old style Italian restaurant full of all types of old style New Yorkers. One day several years ago I took some friends there but it was gone. I wept. (Mary!)

There was a great old dingy bar on 1st Ave and around 12th or 13th where they played the blues every night. Can't remember the name, but will never forget some of the nights I went there.

And I will never forget Cafe des Artistes.

by Anonymousreply 4July 26, 2017 4:47 AM

Does anyone remember the tiny conveyer belt sushi place that was near the Persian rug district. Somewhere in the 30s I believe ? My mother was always taking me to fun places as a kid in the 1970s.

by Anonymousreply 5July 26, 2017 10:46 AM

R4 I remembered a place like that but I remember it being on 2nd Avenue around 12th or 13th street. I grew up around that neighborhood and I got into bars as an underage teen, starting around 15 and without ID. That was in the 80s things sure are different now. My mother and aunt used to love taking me to Cafe des Artiste . It was my mother and aunts favorite brunch place ,as a kid i thought it was so genteel and magical and i would just stare at the murals.

by Anonymousreply 6July 26, 2017 10:56 AM

Angelica Kitchen, the vegetarian restaurant on East 12th Street just off 2nd Avenue. It closed in March of this year after 40 years. It was a great healthy alternative to all the eateries in the neighborhood.

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by Anonymousreply 7July 26, 2017 11:02 AM

Of course we are nostalgic. Look at the boring place NYC has become. NY is becoming like any other city. It's a bunch of chain stores/restaurants and banks.

by Anonymousreply 8July 26, 2017 11:16 AM

The Magic Pan.

East 57th Street (Lexington & Third)

This was all I could find.

Funny, I remember the matches.

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by Anonymousreply 9July 26, 2017 11:27 AM

Strangely, people say very little about "New York Magazine" on DL NYC nostalgia threads. It was such a thing in the 70s and 80s (but less so).

Year end issue 1977.

"It all happened here. Where else?"

Such a cool cover. Such a cool NYC year.

New York really was 'it' then.

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by Anonymousreply 10July 26, 2017 11:37 AM

Hot Town - Summer 1977.

You'll have to click on it to see it >>

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by Anonymousreply 11July 26, 2017 11:39 AM

Did anyone here ever go to Catch A Rising Star?

This was how people (people like this, anyway) looked in 1977 - not like the kitschy weird look of 70s retro rubbish like you see in shows like Vinyl.

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by Anonymousreply 12July 26, 2017 11:43 AM

NOT like this >>

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by Anonymousreply 13July 26, 2017 11:45 AM

Has this been posted yet?

If not, why not?

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by Anonymousreply 14July 26, 2017 11:50 AM

Blimey!

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by Anonymousreply 15July 26, 2017 11:54 AM

more 70s

Lexington Ave.

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by Anonymousreply 16July 26, 2017 11:55 AM

[quote]The Luna in Little Italy (NOT the Bella Luna, which was nearby). Old style Italian restaurant full of all types of old style New Yorkers. One day several years ago I took some friends there but it was gone. I wept. (Mary!)

I think I used to eat at the Luna on Friday nights, if I'm thinking of the right place. Did it have a big white sign over the door, maybe hanging over Mulberry Street, backlit by fluorescent bulbs, and it just said LUNA in black caps?

Another place I liked eating was the somewhat more expensive Il Cortile. Since I didn't know how to pronounce Italian then, I called it "eel cor-TEEL."

[quote]And I will never forget Cafe des Artistes.

I wish I had eaten there, even once. I used to walk past it on my way to work every day (I lived on W. 69th), but my life blew up and I ended up leaving the West Side, and the next year, New York. I can't say "I will never forget Cafe des Artistes," and I wish I could.

by Anonymousreply 17July 26, 2017 12:18 PM

I wanted NY very much to survive the 70s in the worst way because there was still so much fucking beauty in it.

Little did I know it was going to survive it in literally the worst way and it wasn't going to be worth it.

by Anonymousreply 18July 26, 2017 12:25 PM

The Luna isn't there anymore. OMG. What's there now?

The food was HORRIBLE. Overcooked, mushy spaghetti with sauce from a jar.

But it was atmospheric and historic enough to make it worthwhile.

by Anonymousreply 19July 26, 2017 12:25 PM

R12 I see Elaine Boosler and Richard Belzer, who else is there in the group?

by Anonymousreply 20July 26, 2017 12:28 PM

Do anyone remember a 1970s Japanese restaurant called Hidè on west 56th street?

No one spoke English. It was probably one of the first sushi places in NYC. I have never had sushi that good.

by Anonymousreply 21July 26, 2017 12:28 PM

[quote][R12] I see Elaine Boosler and Richard Belzer, who else is there in the group?

I don't think may of those gurls' stars rose high enough for anyone to catch them.

by Anonymousreply 22July 26, 2017 12:30 PM

It's still a witty and eccentric place - sometimes.

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by Anonymousreply 23July 26, 2017 12:33 PM

Looks like Cockapoos and Labradoodles are very popular in NYC

by Anonymousreply 24July 26, 2017 12:40 PM

I remember The Luna. It wasnt fancy at all, I remember our waitress was like one of my old Italian aunts. I had ravioli, and I think some peppers. It was delicious. My mother told me she thought someone was rubbed out there many years prior (or on the sidewalk) but she might be thinking of another Little Italy eatery.

by Anonymousreply 25July 26, 2017 1:01 PM

I always had veal Marsala at the Luna. The entire dinner cost just $10, plus wine.

by Anonymousreply 26July 26, 2017 1:07 PM

R4 Was it called Dan Lynchs

by Anonymousreply 27July 26, 2017 5:06 PM

[quote]Does anyone remember the tiny conveyer belt sushi place that was near the Persian rug district.

I wish more places had conveyor belt service. It was fun to sit there and watch the food go by.

by Anonymousreply 28July 26, 2017 6:39 PM

they're still a thing in London.

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by Anonymousreply 29July 26, 2017 6:57 PM

Does anybody remember the Gay movie houses? The Jewel, the Adonis and the 57th St Playhouse where I met my first partner who was married to a woman when I met him.

by Anonymousreply 30July 26, 2017 6:58 PM

I don't remember the 57th Street Playhouse being a gay movie house. I saw regular movies there. Though it was kinda sleazy.

by Anonymousreply 31July 26, 2017 7:01 PM

I went to the New David Cinema. A lot of old men there. I always wondered where they all came from.

by Anonymousreply 32July 26, 2017 7:03 PM

Boots & Saddle - Christopher Street.

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by Anonymousreply 33July 26, 2017 7:12 PM

R21 Was it east across the avenue, behind St Pats? I know thats 51st/52nd, not 56th, but otherwise, your description is spot on. It was pretty formal, IIRC.

If so, that was the first Japanese restaurant I ever went to. My grandfather spoke fluent Japanese, as he was stationed in Japan for several yrs post WWII. He took us there numerous times. The owners & staff loved that an American could speak Japanese so well.

by Anonymousreply 34July 26, 2017 7:15 PM

OP, I fondly remember Part I. How I miss it. If only I could go back in time to visit it.

by Anonymousreply 35July 26, 2017 7:40 PM

R17 I would go to Cafe Des Artistes with 2 friends who were very well liked by the staff one time the waiter asked what we wanted for dessert and one of them said jokingly bring us one piece of every dessert . The waiter brought out a big platter with a small piece of every dessert in the house. After that whenever we dined there that was what we had for dessert, we never had to make a choice of desserts.

by Anonymousreply 36July 26, 2017 8:01 PM

More please.

by Anonymousreply 37July 26, 2017 11:27 PM

Hole in the wall Great Jones Cafe is possibly closing. The Lower East Side was the last area that held on to its dive restaurants, but they are quickly slipping away.

Imagine a city where hole in the wall places like this were in every neighborhood. That's the New York that I loved.

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by Anonymousreply 38July 26, 2017 11:37 PM

That was my take-out place for years, R7.

by Anonymousreply 39July 26, 2017 11:42 PM

OP, where is the link to PT.1?

by Anonymousreply 40July 26, 2017 11:43 PM

Ask, and you shall receive.

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by Anonymousreply 41July 26, 2017 11:50 PM

Looks like Lucky Strike is still going, all these years later.

People used to say Madonna had worked there.

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by Anonymousreply 42July 27, 2017 12:09 AM

But "I Tre Merli" - another of my SoHo 80s haunts, has closed.

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by Anonymousreply 43July 27, 2017 12:11 AM

Tortilla Flats - another 80s survivor.

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by Anonymousreply 44July 27, 2017 12:12 AM

The Cupping Room in SoHo is still there.

I always liked it very much.

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by Anonymousreply 45July 27, 2017 12:13 AM

Inside The Cupping Room >>

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by Anonymousreply 46July 27, 2017 12:14 AM

Bagels on the Square - still going.

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by Anonymousreply 47July 27, 2017 12:17 AM

John's Pizza on Bleecker - still going.

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by Anonymousreply 48July 27, 2017 12:18 AM

Cornellia Street Cafe - still there, since 1977.

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by Anonymousreply 49July 27, 2017 12:20 AM

162 Spring Street

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by Anonymousreply 50July 27, 2017 12:22 AM

What about it, R50?

Joe's Pizza still there. Used to be on the corner of Carmine & Bleeker now @ 7 Carmine.

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by Anonymousreply 51July 27, 2017 12:24 AM

Zito's Bakery on Bleecker closed in 2010, after 80 years.

I always thought their bread was very overrated, actually. So I won't be crying over that one.

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by Anonymousreply 52July 27, 2017 12:28 AM

Disco Donut - 14th & Third - closed.

It was just a dive.

People used to say - "It's where the drag queens go!" Who gives a fuck, quite frankly?

I guess it did have a sort of 70s sleaze about it.

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by Anonymousreply 53July 27, 2017 12:33 AM

I used to drink there, R51.

[quote]The Spring Street Bar opened in January 1972, and, according to Anderson and Archer’s SoHo: The Essential Guide to Art and Life in Lower Manhattan, it was “the crossroads of West Broadway and on any given day or night you [were] likely to see Holly Solomon, Leo Castelli or Paula Cooper having lunch with clients or an artist of two.” So I guess it was for the arty-types. It also supposedly set the tone for the “SoHo-style” restaurant when it expanded and renovated in 1977, with its “brown epoxy tables, angular windows and saffron orange bar” serving “Italian whole-wheat bread and potted butter, quiches, spinach salad and entrees that interpret both French and American cooking.” If that doesn’t sound like every neighborhood meal I had with my family in my tween years. . .

by Anonymousreply 54July 27, 2017 12:35 AM

[quote]Cornellia Street Cafe - still there, since 1977.

They're having a lot of problems and may fall to high rents. Cornelia Street has seen the closures of Home and Po this year.

by Anonymousreply 55July 27, 2017 12:36 AM

I used to like The Bell Telephone Stores, because I liked telephones and Bell Phones were beautiful and fantastic. Those stores all went in the 90s. This photo is from 1979.

(Americans always look slightly bemused when I say that about the phones - because they never even thought about them. They were so everyday to them).

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by Anonymousreply 56July 27, 2017 12:38 AM

[quote]I used to drink there, [R51].

You used to drink at Joe's Pizza?

by Anonymousreply 57July 27, 2017 12:40 AM

Oh, I see - sorry, R54 - The Spring Street Bar.

by Anonymousreply 58July 27, 2017 12:42 AM

No, at 162 Spring Street. Aren't you the one who asked?

by Anonymousreply 59July 27, 2017 12:42 AM

where was it, Spring and what, R59?

by Anonymousreply 60July 27, 2017 12:45 AM

West Broadway, I think. On the southeast corner.

by Anonymousreply 61July 27, 2017 12:48 AM

Do you remember a place, it had a spiral staircase - the music would stop - and the owner would suddenly walk down it doing a Dusty Springfield impersonation. He'd do it every night.

Maybe that was the Spring Street Bar.

by Anonymousreply 62July 27, 2017 12:50 AM

No, that wasn't it, at least not in 1977-78. It was a mainly straight crowd. I used to go with my female roommate.

by Anonymousreply 63July 27, 2017 12:51 AM

No, it wasn't a 'gay place' - but the Dusty thing was pretty gay, yes, it was.

Inspired by this performance >>

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by Anonymousreply 64July 27, 2017 12:53 AM

Who remembers Rounds, the hooker bar in the East 50s? A bleach blond older woman sat at the piano decked out in a 1950s tafetta dress. I never knew whether that was her real dress or if she was just trying to be retro. I doubt playing piano in a gay hooker bar paid much, so maybe it was her real dress.

by Anonymousreply 65July 27, 2017 12:55 AM

It's definitely something I'd've stayed for if I'd seen it happening, R64. I was a big Dusty Springfield fan in the mid-'60s.

by Anonymousreply 66July 27, 2017 12:55 AM

I miss the Royal Canadian Pancake House in the East 50s. So much better than IHOP.

by Anonymousreply 67July 27, 2017 12:56 AM

[quote]No, that wasn't it, at least not in 1977-78.

You must remember 'Food' in SoHo - if you were around SoHo then.

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by Anonymousreply 68July 27, 2017 12:58 AM

[quote]I miss the Royal Canadian Pancake House in the East 50s. So much better than IHOP.

OMG. I remember that. On Lexington.

by Anonymousreply 69July 27, 2017 12:59 AM

Food in SoHo.

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by Anonymousreply 70July 27, 2017 1:02 AM

[quote]I miss the Royal Canadian Pancake House in the East 50s.

I think it was around 71st & Lexington, actually.

by Anonymousreply 71July 27, 2017 1:04 AM

Did anyone ever go in the Life Cafe before Rent made it popular? I've always wondered what it was like.

by Anonymousreply 72July 27, 2017 1:05 AM

Did any one here go to Burger Heaven on East 53rd Street?

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by Anonymousreply 73July 27, 2017 1:08 AM

[quote]I think it was around 71st & Lexington, actually.

They may have had a location at 71st, but the one I went to was definitely East 50s.

by Anonymousreply 74July 27, 2017 1:09 AM

[quote]Did anyone ever go in the Life Cafe before Rent made it popular?

Yes. I'm trying to remember where it was.

by Anonymousreply 75July 27, 2017 1:09 AM

[quote]Did any one here go to Burger Heaven on East 53rd Street?

Burger Heaven is still open. You can go eat there.

by Anonymousreply 76July 27, 2017 1:10 AM

[quote]They may have had a location at 71st, but the one I went to was definitely East 50s.

I'll look it up in my 1976 Manhattan Phone Book....which I still have.

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by Anonymousreply 77July 27, 2017 1:11 AM

[quote]Burger Heaven is still open. You can go eat there.

I thought they closed it. There was a great sadness.

by Anonymousreply 78July 27, 2017 1:12 AM

They may have closed the specific location you are talking about, but there are still two Burger Heaven locations in Manhattan, one is on East 53rd Street. A friend of mine dragged me in there about 3 weeks ago.

by Anonymousreply 79July 27, 2017 1:13 AM

No, that's it. The same one.

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by Anonymousreply 80July 27, 2017 1:15 AM

[quote]I miss the Royal Canadian Pancake House in the East 50s.

It's not in my 1976 Phone Directory.

by Anonymousreply 81July 27, 2017 1:16 AM

Oh, yes - I totally remember Life Cafe.

What's its connection to Rent?

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by Anonymousreply 82July 27, 2017 1:19 AM

Oh, I see - it was much more recent than the 70s.

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by Anonymousreply 83July 27, 2017 1:22 AM

[quote]Oh, yes - I totally remember Life Cafe. What's its connection to Rent?

Have you never seen Rent? The song La Vie Boheme is performed in The Life Cafe.

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by Anonymousreply 84July 27, 2017 1:24 AM

I would go to the Donut Pub on 14th St after having fun at the after hours clubs, (The Mineshaft) I would pick up a few fresh donuts and the Sunday Times and head uptown on the #1 to 112th St. I haven't been there in a long time, The Donut Pub is still there!

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by Anonymousreply 85July 27, 2017 1:25 AM

[quote]Have you never seen Rent?

No. Never saw it. Thanks for the clip.

by Anonymousreply 86July 27, 2017 1:26 AM

Village Comics which was at 163 Bleecker Street on the 2nd Floor for about 2 decades was a great place to buy new releases and back issues of comics. They moved to Sullivan Street in the late 1990s, but ended up closing soon afterwards.

by Anonymousreply 87July 27, 2017 1:28 AM

[quote]I would go to the Donut Pub on 14th St after having fun at the after hours clubs, (The Mineshaft)

The Mineshaft was some pretty heavy duty shit. I remember when they closed it. The police went in to shut it down.

Did you dress like THIS >> ?

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by Anonymousreply 88July 27, 2017 1:29 AM

Donut Pub is still there, but it's really expensive. $4.00 donuts? C'mon!!

by Anonymousreply 89July 27, 2017 1:31 AM

I think once Rent made the Life Cafe a tourist spot, they changed. I have a feeling it used to be just a casual hangout place. I walked by it a few years after Rent was on Broadway and it seemed full of tourists.

by Anonymousreply 90July 27, 2017 1:32 AM

[quote]I think once Rent made the Life Cafe a tourist spot, they changed. I have a feeling it used to be just a casual hangout place.

Yes, it was. Nothing fancy. Just an East Village Hangout - nice outside eating space, overlooking the park.

by Anonymousreply 91July 27, 2017 1:34 AM

Anyone miss Carl Fischer at Cooper Square? I used to love to dive into their filing cabinets for music. I shopped there the last day it was open and was in a very long line when they locked the doors. It took about 3 hours to get up to a cashier, but in the last 20 feet or so there were numerous stacks of music books that people had dumped at the last minute. Either they couldn't afford them or changed their mind. I found a lot of fantastic music in that pile that I somehow carried home.

After that, Colony was my only resource. May they both RIP.

by Anonymousreply 92July 27, 2017 6:00 AM

Yes, r92, I miss Carl Fischer. I hate what they've done to the Astor Place area. It's just not that funky, off-beat East Village that it once was.

Kids who come to NYC today don't see how divese the city once was. They see generic glass building after generic glass building. They don't understand how great it was.

by Anonymousreply 93July 27, 2017 12:41 PM

^^^^^diverse

by Anonymousreply 94July 27, 2017 12:41 PM

Definitely, R68.

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by Anonymousreply 95July 27, 2017 1:15 PM

LOL. This thread needs a musical break.

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by Anonymousreply 96July 27, 2017 1:22 PM

There you go, R96.

by Anonymousreply 97July 27, 2017 1:24 PM

[quote]Kids who come to NYC today don't see how divese the city once was. They see generic glass building after generic glass building.

I think the New York of today is the New York people who had never been there used to expect. They were surprised how old so much of it was.

by Anonymousreply 98July 27, 2017 1:25 PM

I think there were already references to One Fifth in the last thread - so we won't be going there again.

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by Anonymousreply 99July 27, 2017 1:28 PM

actually, I'd forgotten how fucking good that soundtrack is/was.

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by Anonymousreply 100July 27, 2017 1:29 PM

Oh, just for one scene, R99.

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by Anonymousreply 101July 27, 2017 1:35 PM

yes, we had that photo - posted by - guess who? Where were you?

by Anonymousreply 102July 27, 2017 1:37 PM

Probably outside on E. 8th Street

by Anonymousreply 103July 27, 2017 1:38 PM

I miss good bagels. I haven't had a decent bagel in years. I think they stopped boiling them and just went to baking them. They're so hard now rather than being chewy like a bagel should be.

by Anonymousreply 104July 27, 2017 1:40 PM

I already miss the nostalgification in the first thread of Ray's Pizza (the [bold]real[/bold] Ray's Pizza, at 11th Street and Sixth Avenue.

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by Anonymousreply 105July 27, 2017 1:51 PM

In NYCs outer boroughs, we had guys who came around to sharpen knives, scissors, etc. Another who sold fruits & vegetables, another who sold fresh seafood, on ice.

We had uniformed milkmen who delivered dairy products to your front door & another uniformed guy who picked up/delivered laundry & dry cleaning, from your home.

All until the early 1980s.

by Anonymousreply 106July 27, 2017 2:15 PM

Does anyone remember the Gilded Grape on 8th Avenue.

Today everything is so prudish. Young people today will never know or believe how blatantly sexy NYC was in the past.

by Anonymousreply 107July 27, 2017 2:16 PM

I wonder how many of today's kids actually want to be in NYC. When I was growing up, it was my passion. I *had* to go to NYC. It was electric. It was chic. It was nothing I'd ever known before. I'm wondering if today's kids, their parents want them to go to NYU and they just end up in NYC by default, with no real passion for being here.

by Anonymousreply 108July 27, 2017 2:22 PM

Remember when the executive office in Washington wasn't filled with corrupt New Yorkers?

by Anonymousreply 109July 27, 2017 2:22 PM

Look what I've done! - don't say I don't love you.

& it was tricky to scan because AZUMA was on the edge.

This is from my 1977-78 New York Phone Book - that I've had for forty years and schlepped all the way back to London.

Posted here for clarification purposes.

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by Anonymousreply 110July 27, 2017 2:30 PM

Thanks r110, that's great.

by Anonymousreply 111July 27, 2017 3:11 PM

You're welcome, R111.

Did you see the names on that thing?

Imagine having to spell "Vaghef Azarpayvand" over the telephone with a foreign accent, on a daily basis.

or

"Girmachew Azbite".

by Anonymousreply 112July 27, 2017 3:27 PM

I love r110 We would get on very well. 😘

by Anonymousreply 113July 27, 2017 4:19 PM

R85 here, R88 I was just a twink at that time I dressed in faded jeans, sneakers and tight t-shirts.

by Anonymousreply 114July 28, 2017 10:35 AM

R110 I knew I recalled correctly that there was an Azuma on 8th Street on the corner of University Place.

by Anonymousreply 115July 28, 2017 10:49 AM

Twinks used to go to The Mineshaft? To 'the back room', R114?

[quote][R110] I knew I recalled correctly that there was an Azuma on 8th Street on the corner of University Place.

Yes, that's the one I remember too. I'm trying to locate it on google maps - but the street looks so different now.

by Anonymousreply 116July 28, 2017 10:57 AM

[quote]Twinks used to go to The Mineshaft? To 'the back room',

I was still a twink then. Once, they wouldn't let me in because I was wearing cologne. Another time, they didn't want to let me in because I was wearing an alligator shirt. So I took it off and stuffed it down the back of my jeans. No problem getting in after that. And IIRC, wasn't "downstairs" the hotter part?

by Anonymousreply 117July 28, 2017 2:39 PM

[quote]there was an Azuma on 8th Street on the corner of University Place.

The one on Sixth below W. 8th is the one I remember best. But it wasn't my kind of place, so I never went it. I just walked past it a lot. I usually went across E. 10th to get to University.

by Anonymousreply 118July 28, 2017 2:41 PM

I think they still make stuff. If this is the same place.

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by Anonymousreply 119July 28, 2017 2:49 PM

Yes R116 if you were dressed right they let you in.

by Anonymousreply 120July 28, 2017 3:17 PM

Azuma had a dress code, r120?

by Anonymousreply 121July 28, 2017 3:31 PM

I miss Dosanko. The best Japanese fried chicken.

by Anonymousreply 122July 28, 2017 3:45 PM

The Four Seasons. Mortimer's, The first Le Cirque.

by Anonymousreply 123July 28, 2017 5:46 PM

And thanks another million times to whoever it was who sent me the tracks to the soundtrack a couple of years back.

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by Anonymousreply 124July 28, 2017 6:19 PM

It was ME, gurl.

& you're welcome.

It's so beautiful, isn't it? To think there were cunts on imdb who used to complain about the soundtrack.

I always loved THIS location down by the river. I must watch it again.

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by Anonymousreply 125July 28, 2017 10:28 PM

another great snap >>

254 East 68th

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by Anonymousreply 126July 28, 2017 10:32 PM

[quote]To think there were cunts on imdb who used to complain about the soundtrack.

That had to have been before my time. Or I'm better than I imagined at ignoring those whose opinion doesn't count. Again, thank you, thank you, thank you.

by Anonymousreply 127July 28, 2017 10:48 PM

Talking of New York Phone Directories - here's the 1940 one, in its full glory.

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by Anonymousreply 128July 28, 2017 11:52 PM

NY Subway of the 70s & 80s.

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by Anonymousreply 129July 28, 2017 11:58 PM

Anyone remember soda trucks? I grew up in Bed-Stuy in the 70's and there was this broken-down truck that came though every 3 weeks or so, selling bottled soda (this was before the change to plastic bottles). There were cases stacked on open shelves and you could hear the clinking of glass as soon as it hit the block. They sold to individuals, not just to stores. We were so envious when it would stop and deliver bottles to the people on the block who were customers. Our parents didn't splurge for stuff, having 5 kids, so we could only watch others get this treat until eventually us kids saved some money and bought a few bottles.

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by Anonymousreply 130July 29, 2017 12:22 AM

>>>>

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by Anonymousreply 131July 29, 2017 1:49 AM

Anyone remember a gourmet food store in the early-mid 80's, (trying to be another Dean & Deluca) briefly in Chelsea on a Northeast corner of 8th Ave and maybe West 19th or 20th Street? Green awning and the name was? Think it began with an 'M'?

by Anonymousreply 132July 29, 2017 1:55 AM

^^ Miss Marys Meat Market?

Well, you said Chelsea..

by Anonymousreply 133July 29, 2017 2:02 AM

r133 you've been an ENORMOUS help.

by Anonymousreply 134July 29, 2017 2:04 AM

I think this was posted in the first thread but I think it should be reprised in this one it is a wonderful video.

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by Anonymousreply 135July 29, 2017 1:51 PM

People get ticked off when I tell this story, buuuuuuuuuuuttttt...

When Uncle Charlies gay bar was in the West Village, they had a Ladies Room sign on a door. When the door was opened, it was a fire exit to the alley outside. They did not encourage women to visit there.

by Anonymousreply 136July 29, 2017 7:52 PM

Banana Republic - remember when it looked like this?

Sixth & Bleecker

'80s

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by Anonymousreply 137July 29, 2017 10:55 PM

All Banana Republics looked like that, R137. Not just the one in NY.

by Anonymousreply 138July 29, 2017 10:58 PM

[quote]Not just the one in NY.

I didn't say it was.

by Anonymousreply 139July 29, 2017 11:02 PM

[quote]Sixth & Bleecker

That was a grocery store before Banana Republic. A Grand Union, I think.

by Anonymousreply 140July 29, 2017 11:07 PM

No, gurl - that was Bleecker & La Guardia.

by Anonymousreply 141July 29, 2017 11:11 PM

Thank you, R141. What are those buildings called?

by Anonymousreply 142July 29, 2017 11:13 PM

>>>>

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by Anonymousreply 143July 29, 2017 11:13 PM

[quote]Thank you, [R141]. What are those buildings called?

What do you mean?

by Anonymousreply 144July 29, 2017 11:14 PM

Banana Republic 1980s.

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by Anonymousreply 145July 29, 2017 11:16 PM

R144 Those apartment buildings below NYU on La Guardia Place where the Grand Union was located.

by Anonymousreply 146July 29, 2017 11:25 PM

Yes, R145. You posted that already.

by Anonymousreply 147July 29, 2017 11:26 PM

[quote]No, gurl - that was Bleecker & La Guardia.

Yes, I know there was a Grand Union there, now it's a Morton Williams. But there was also a grocery store at 6th and Bleecker before the Banana Republic. I just can't remember whether it was Grand Union or another chain.

by Anonymousreply 148July 29, 2017 11:26 PM

[quote][R144] Those apartment buildings below NYU on La Guardia Place where the Grand Union was located.

Washington Square Village?

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by Anonymousreply 149July 29, 2017 11:28 PM

[quote]Yes, I know there was a Grand Union there, now it's a Morton Williams. But there was also a grocery store at 6th and Bleecker before the Banana Republic. I just can't remember whether it was Grand Union or another chain.

I can't remember.

by Anonymousreply 150July 29, 2017 11:30 PM

[quote]Washington Square Village?

That's it. Thanks.

by Anonymousreply 151July 29, 2017 11:33 PM

[quote]Yes, I know there was a Grand Union there, now it's a Morton Williams. But there was also a grocery store at 6th and Bleecker before the Banana Republic. I just can't remember whether it was Grand Union or another chain.

It was Pioneer.

by Anonymousreply 152July 30, 2017 12:05 AM

Anyone remember David's Potbelly on Christopher St? I would pick up guys in Ty's bar and bring them into the Potbelly restaurant so I could see them in normal light.

by Anonymousreply 153July 30, 2017 12:10 PM

R153 Blue Cheese Burgers

by Anonymousreply 154July 30, 2017 12:18 PM

R153, someone mentioned in another thread that David's was co-owned by John James, of DYNASTY, who was 77 WABC dj Herb Oscar Anderson's son.

A friend of mine worked there in the '70s, the same friend who introduced me to good coffee, from McNulty's, where he also worked.

by Anonymousreply 155July 30, 2017 12:19 PM

Talking of which - remember David's Cookies - they were all over New York.

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by Anonymousreply 156July 30, 2017 12:21 PM

or is that what you're talking about, R155?

I'm confused.

by Anonymousreply 157July 30, 2017 12:24 PM

R157, I am referring to David's Pot Belly, a restaurant on Christopher Street, which R153 asked about.

Was David's Cookies attached to Larry's Ice Cream? The two shared a store in Dupont Circle during the 1980s, maybe longer.

by Anonymousreply 158July 30, 2017 12:35 PM

I don't know.

by Anonymousreply 159July 30, 2017 1:08 PM

I miss Manatus. It was a nice little diner on Bleecker Street. Now it's just another empty building the owner is holding to try and get an exorbitant rent. And some eclectic restaurant might eventually take it, but it won't be what's needed in the West Village, which is a diner like Manatus.

by Anonymousreply 160July 30, 2017 1:43 PM

I miss the Factory Cafe, which was located at 104 Christopher Street. I would go on Sundays, and read the New York Times. It was an alternative to the more youthful Big Cup in Chelsea.

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by Anonymousreply 161July 30, 2017 1:55 PM

I had asked on the previous thread, but I think my question got lost, so I'll ask here.

The 60s and 70s had Truman Capote, Babe Paley, Jackie Kennedy

The 70s and 80s had Andy Warhol, Liza, Studio 54

What are the 90s, 00s and 10s known for? To me, they seem drab in comparison to the color that used to be NYC. But maybe I'm just looking through my own experience? I saw the 60s-80s in glossy magazines. the 90s - present, I've lived them.

by Anonymousreply 162July 30, 2017 2:01 PM

Please help an eldergay remember the name of a most-loved neighborhood watering hole from the 1980's.

It was on Ninth Avenue, mid block between 55th and 56th, on the east side of the street. In front was a long bar in the middle of the room. In the back, a small balcony overlooking the bar. Maybe (probably?) where Route 66 has been for years.

I scored my first orgy in that room. Conveniently held right across the street. And so much other great sex got its start in that bar.

But the name of it. What was the name?

Thank you.

by Anonymousreply 163July 30, 2017 2:16 PM

[Quote]What are the 90s, 00s and 10s known for?

That might be an interesting separate thread, especially if you focus from around 1995, when the Giuliani administration was in full swing with the debilitating changes to New York's then gritty and creative character.

I pretty much remember the early 90s Club Kid scene, which had actually started in the late 80s. I suppose the East Village/Williamsburg hipster scene would be another topic of discussion.

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by Anonymousreply 164July 30, 2017 2:16 PM

R163, was it Bar Nine?

by Anonymousreply 165July 30, 2017 2:21 PM

Kojak - 1974

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by Anonymousreply 166July 30, 2017 3:26 PM

actually some of the NYC street scenes were excellent in Kojak. really caught New York in its beautiful 70s-ness.

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by Anonymousreply 167July 30, 2017 3:28 PM

>>>>

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by Anonymousreply 168July 30, 2017 3:29 PM

R162 I agree with others that would be a great separate thread.

by Anonymousreply 169July 30, 2017 4:27 PM

623 East 68th Street. Thin air.

by Anonymousreply 170July 30, 2017 6:48 PM

R163 - was it "Cross Road" ?

by Anonymousreply 171July 30, 2017 7:13 PM

This is a wonderful thread.

by Anonymousreply 172July 30, 2017 8:36 PM

I used to love cruising The Rambles in central park on my 10 speed bike, good times.

by Anonymousreply 173July 30, 2017 9:01 PM

Funny, I just remembered my father, who was English, used to say " If you don't look up it, becomes a very friendly place".

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by Anonymousreply 174July 30, 2017 9:11 PM

this intro seems to capture an old NYC of circa 1970, very well >>>

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by Anonymousreply 175July 30, 2017 9:24 PM

Can't do that one without this one, r175.

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by Anonymousreply 176July 30, 2017 9:35 PM

That Girl - New York locations.

A must if you're a fan of That Girl (I almost wrote That Gurl) - or New York in the 60s.

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by Anonymousreply 177July 30, 2017 9:49 PM

Both That Girl and The Odd Couple filmed in California, but made regular trips to NYC to film outdoor scenes to make it all look legit.

by Anonymousreply 178July 30, 2017 10:25 PM

Kojak as well, R178.

by Anonymousreply 179July 30, 2017 11:10 PM

I worked with Sharon Gless one time. She said they would shoot street scenes in NYC for Cagney & Lacey. One day after a lot of shooting, she was exhausted and she was trying to catch a cab back to her hotel. No cabs were stopping for her, so she finally went up to a policeman and said, "How does anyone catch a cab in this city?"

by Anonymousreply 180July 31, 2017 12:16 AM

[quote] I used to love cruising The Rambles in Central Park

It's The Ramble

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by Anonymousreply 181July 31, 2017 1:03 AM

I remember those gurls in the Ramble.

(Not that I went ramblin')

by Anonymousreply 182July 31, 2017 1:04 AM

The Ramble used to be rocking. Group sex, 1:1 behind trees. It was a sexual mecca.

by Anonymousreply 183July 31, 2017 1:13 AM

Thank you, r177! What's amazing is how recognizable everything is some 50 years later. New York is wonderful in that way. In many ways, it's as if you never left.

by Anonymousreply 184July 31, 2017 2:06 AM

[R106] the West Village in the 60s had a horsedrawn fruit and vegetable wagon, a junk man with a green push cart and a bell, a knife sharpener in an odd scooter, at least one milkman and an ice man.

[112] people used to invent names, just for fun, for their telephone listings. Also, at the very beginning and at the very end of the phone book, you'll see names listed with multiple A's or Z's, clearly designed to make it easy to find someone's listing.

Did David's Potbelly have mini potato pancakes?

by Anonymousreply 185July 31, 2017 3:28 AM

Bless you, R171. That's it! Cross Road. It was a GREAT neighborhood bar.

Thank you!!!

by Anonymousreply 186July 31, 2017 4:08 AM

Glad to be of help.

by Anonymousreply 187July 31, 2017 9:19 AM

[quote]R112, people used to invent names, just for fun, for their telephone listings. Also, at the very beginning and at the very end of the phone book, you'll see names listed with multiple A's or Z's, clearly designed to make it easy to find someone's listing.

No kidding!

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by Anonymousreply 188July 31, 2017 9:22 AM

But those freaky names were real in fact.

by Anonymousreply 189July 31, 2017 9:22 AM

There must have been NYers in the 1920s who missed the New York of their youth as well.

Lexington & 83rd, 1900.

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by Anonymousreply 190July 31, 2017 12:02 PM

1975 - gloomy day on Sixth Avenue.

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by Anonymousreply 191August 1, 2017 6:36 PM

R191 Good find. It took me several minutes to figure out this was 6th Avenue looking north from Houston to Bleecker street. That red 3-story building on the left is the Little Red Schoolhouse.

by Anonymousreply 192August 2, 2017 12:20 AM

Anyone ever visit the original Museum of the American Indian on Audubon Terrace around 155th St? It was 3 floors of artifacts. The first floor was about North American Indians the second floor was Central American Indians and the top floor was South American Indians. The South American Indian display had an area devoted to shrunken heads, there was 3 shrunken people as part of the display. When I first saw them I thought what cute dolls until I was closer and realized it was 3 people about 2 ft tall. One was an Indian another was an African and the third was a blond white guy. The collection was divided many years ago and the bulk of the collection went to the new Museum of the American Indian in DC. The shrunken people were sent to DC I don't know if they were put on display.

by Anonymousreply 193August 2, 2017 12:43 AM

R188. Damn! Good one. 50 points. Mrs. David X. Cohen. It's the only Cohen with an X in the book!

by Anonymousreply 194August 2, 2017 1:40 AM

I thought her new husband was called Cohn, not Cohen.

But anyway, thank you for the 50 points.

by Anonymousreply 195August 2, 2017 2:08 AM

I fondly remember part one of this topic.

by Anonymousreply 196August 2, 2017 2:14 AM

More misery from the folks who want New York to remain the same >>

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by Anonymousreply 197August 2, 2017 2:40 AM

[quote]I fondly remember part one of this topic.

What's wrong with Part 2?

by Anonymousreply 198August 2, 2017 2:47 AM

I can't be nostalgic about the current thread, R198, though I have warm memories about your post of 29 minutes ago.

by Anonymousreply 199August 2, 2017 3:16 AM

My heart broke when The Ballet Shop closed. It was located on Broadway in the ground floor of the Empire Hotel. It was the best collection of ballet related materials I have ever seen offered for sale. Ballet programs stretching back for decades. Toe shoes from favorite ballerinas. Scores. Recordings. Posters Photos. Autographs. All of it devoted to ballet. The Ballet Shop was magnificent. But doomed. It probably didn't make it to 1990.

by Anonymousreply 200August 2, 2017 3:25 AM

R198, how can I miss you if you won't go away?

by Anonymousreply 201August 2, 2017 3:46 AM

R200 I remember passing the Ballet Shop in the early 1990s and it was still open. It probably closed in the mid 1990s.

by Anonymousreply 202August 2, 2017 10:43 AM

[quote]My heart broke when The Ballet Shop closed. It was located on Broadway in the ground floor of the Empire Hotel.

There was also a theater bookshop near there - where you could get scripts etc...

Anyone remember?

Might still be there!

by Anonymousreply 203August 2, 2017 3:37 PM

The NY Times reports that The Ballet Shop closed in 1996.

The owner seems to be the stuff from which DataLounge legend is made.

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by Anonymousreply 204August 2, 2017 9:47 PM

[quote]I can't be nostalgic about the current thread, [R198], though I have warm memories about your post of 29 minutes ago.

gurlfriend, you're talking like a crazy gurl.

by Anonymousreply 205August 2, 2017 9:51 PM

[quote]There was also a theater bookshop near there - where you could get scripts etc...

Applause Books was in that basement store at 71st and Broadway.

by Anonymousreply 206August 2, 2017 11:50 PM

No, the place I remember was circa 63rd St.

by Anonymousreply 207August 3, 2017 12:20 AM

R163 Was it the rectory of St Malachys Church?

by Anonymousreply 208August 3, 2017 12:35 AM

MORE misery for the olde tyme New Yorkers >>>

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by Anonymousreply 209August 3, 2017 10:23 PM

Thanks for posting r209. That's a good article. I bet they tear that building down and build a 5-6 story luxury co-op building. That seems to be what they are doing with every building in the Village.

by Anonymousreply 210August 3, 2017 10:35 PM

It was always a sun spot, that place.

by Anonymousreply 211August 3, 2017 10:37 PM

The Grand Finale on 70th Street, just west of Broadway. What a great nightclub. I saw Dorothy Collins perform there in 1976. What a treat.

by Anonymousreply 212August 4, 2017 3:08 AM

R212 Singing waiters?

by Anonymousreply 213August 4, 2017 3:11 AM

No singing waiters. The Grand Finale was one of the top nightclubs in NYC during the 1970 's.

by Anonymousreply 214August 4, 2017 3:21 AM

Do you remember a restaurant with singing waiters in the W. 70s during the '70s, R214? I think it was on the south side of 72nd.

by Anonymousreply 215August 4, 2017 3:25 AM

Sounds like Palsson's, the original venue for FORBIDDEN BROADWAY.

I'm so fucking old that I saw that first version. At Palsson's.

Nurse, get my oxygen, please.

by Anonymousreply 216August 4, 2017 12:43 PM

Were all the old Supper Clubs torn down? For example, in I Love Lucy you see the Ricardos go out for a night of dinner and dancing. I guess those places fell out of fashion and were replaced by discos? Ballroom dancing gave way to a style of dance where the partners didn't touch but did individual moves?

by Anonymousreply 217August 4, 2017 12:47 PM

R217 Most have gone away the few that remain are dinner theaters, not my thing.

by Anonymousreply 218August 4, 2017 8:46 PM

The building that houses the Riviera probably can't be torn down under landmark laws. Expect a bank. Or a European clothing company (that will last 2 years).

by Anonymousreply 219August 4, 2017 10:48 PM

On location

"Clean your own sneaker!"

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by Anonymousreply 220August 4, 2017 11:00 PM

workin' downtown at the gallery

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by Anonymousreply 221August 4, 2017 11:03 PM

Love the pic R190. Especially the house right next to the brick building.

by Anonymousreply 222August 5, 2017 9:01 AM

1970 - Jones nr West 4th St.

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by Anonymousreply 223August 5, 2017 9:26 AM

Carmine Street in the West Village - 1895

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by Anonymousreply 224August 5, 2017 9:29 AM

The whole of the wonderful film Hester Street is on Youtube >>

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by Anonymousreply 225August 5, 2017 9:31 AM

Never went there, but it's a place old New Yorkers of a certain age like to wax lyrical about.

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by Anonymousreply 226August 5, 2017 10:20 AM

finally I've found a photo of Azuma. The 8th Street location.

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by Anonymousreply 227August 7, 2017 11:01 PM

Full photo - 1975

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by Anonymousreply 228August 7, 2017 11:02 PM

I had a friend who liked to get in fights with store clerks. One of his most memorable scenes was at that Brentano's.

So embarrassing.

by Anonymousreply 229August 7, 2017 11:02 PM

What was Brentano's?

by Anonymousreply 230August 7, 2017 11:49 PM

[quote]What was Brentano's?

A bookstore which was later bought by Waldenbooks which was later bought by Borders Books.

by Anonymousreply 231August 7, 2017 11:56 PM

Here are some interesting photos to flick through.

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by Anonymousreply 232August 8, 2017 8:32 PM

Thanks R232, those pics are wonderful.

More more more from you New York boys. I love this thread.

by Anonymousreply 233August 11, 2017 11:12 AM

Rocks In Your Head, the punk and alternative rock record store on Prince Street in Soho was a great place to search for independent rock music. It was at the same location from 1978 - 2006, when it closed up shop due to high rent and moved to Williamsburgh Brooklyn. I visited the new store once, but it doesn't have the same vibe and the selection is not at all the same.

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by Anonymousreply 234August 12, 2017 12:50 PM

On the west side of Columbus Avenue, probably between 73rd and 74th streets, was a great little toy store called The Last Wound Up. All the toys for sale there were wind-up toys. It was such a great place to investigate or to buy a small gift for someone.

"Don't Postpone Joy" was the store's motto. Good advice.

by Anonymousreply 235August 13, 2017 3:47 AM

My favorite aunt used to bring me there as a child in the 70s she lived on 74th and Amsterdam r235 one of my better memories from childhood. Thanks for reminding me of that store. I remember the owner being friendly and gregarious.Z

by Anonymousreply 236August 13, 2017 4:08 AM

R235 I was trying to recall the store name and location but couldn't. I knew it was somewhere in the West 70s but that's all I knew for sure. It was such a great place.

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by Anonymousreply 237August 13, 2017 11:57 AM

"Love Saves the Day" was another astounding independent business that could constantly amaze and delight. So many wonderful things to be found there. And the owners had a remarkable sense of color and style. A visit was always a treat.

A new comer to NYC would never know the wonders the city used to contain. If I came to NYC today, I would leave thinking, "What's so great about nail salons and Chase Bank branches?"

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by Anonymousreply 238August 13, 2017 2:35 PM

You might be impressed with the energy of the place. The incredible buildings. The history. The extroverted people. The food.

by Anonymousreply 239August 13, 2017 2:42 PM

FOOD in SoHo again - 1972

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by Anonymousreply 240August 15, 2017 2:36 PM

I remember

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by Anonymousreply 241August 15, 2017 3:50 PM

The old New York grew organically into a complex, multifaceted, multicultural megacity. The new New York is just a cheesy, bland corporate imitation of it.

by Anonymousreply 242August 15, 2017 3:53 PM

I'm watching An Unmarried Woman again, R240. Erica and Martin's meals came to a total of $3.75 or $3.95.

by Anonymousreply 243August 15, 2017 3:56 PM

[quote][R12] I see Elaine Boosler and Richard Belzer, who else is there in the group?

I recognize Larry David, Elaine Booszler, Richard Belzer and Bob Shaw (or Shore). Bob was a writer on Seinfeld, obviously Jerry knew him from the comedy club scene. Bob also had small roles on Seinfeld.

by Anonymousreply 244August 15, 2017 4:00 PM

This is very New York-in-the-1970s:

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by Anonymousreply 245August 15, 2017 6:09 PM

this is the Village in the 80s.

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by Anonymousreply 246August 15, 2017 6:12 PM

Veselka, 1970

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by Anonymousreply 247August 20, 2017 10:36 PM

FOOD was run by Cornell educated installation artist Gordon Matta Clark, he died too young, think he was around 35-36.

Very little of his art remains.

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by Anonymousreply 248August 21, 2017 5:31 PM

Dongful looking, R248.

by Anonymousreply 249August 21, 2017 5:33 PM

Yes, R249, what a shame!

by Anonymousreply 250August 21, 2017 5:35 PM

Gordon, again.

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by Anonymousreply 251August 21, 2017 5:51 PM

Gordon died of pancreatic cancer. Think he was gay. So he'd have someone to run his art estate, Gordon's father forced him to marry a female artist/curator friend. Gordon's father was Roberto Matta, a famous Chilean Surrealist painter.

Years before, Gordon's brother committed suicide, he jumped from the window of Gordon's Soho loft.

Gordon was also friends with Laurie Anderson.

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by Anonymousreply 252August 21, 2017 6:13 PM

[quote]Gordon died of pancreatic cancer. Think he was gay.

You think?

by Anonymousreply 253August 21, 2017 6:17 PM

Gordon was a mysterious downtown art figure, there was never a mention of a girlfriend, or wife, until he quickly married during the last months/weeks before his death. It's assumed he was gay.

by Anonymousreply 254August 21, 2017 7:25 PM

I'm a big fan of Gordan Matta-Clark's work. His deconstruction art/architecture work was very creative and groundbreaking. He was diagnosed with Addison's disease and was prescribed cortisone for years to counter the side effects. It may have contributed to his pancreatic cancer.

by Anonymousreply 255August 22, 2017 12:21 AM

Addison's Disease is usually a disorder middle aged women get.

Poor Gordon, had he lived, I wonder if he'd be an art star like Cindy Sherman. Cutting buildings in half was pretty out there and definitely groundbreaking for it's time! The art world is so weird, lots of hype and just plain bullshit, for sure, yet so random who actually makes it. I think of Damien Hurst, putting dead cows and sharks in formaldehyde, which fetched millions.

by Anonymousreply 256August 22, 2017 5:43 PM

The Village Voice is ending its print edition. Technically, it hasn't been a good paper for several years, but I wish it had gone out with a bang instead of a whimper.

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by Anonymousreply 257August 23, 2017 12:27 AM

I only ever read it for the property.

& awful memories of that.

NEVER found a place thru The Voice. It was always word of mouth.

by Anonymousreply 258August 23, 2017 12:39 AM

The Pan Am building lit up at night. Looking up nowadays and seeing "MetLife" isn't too inspiring.

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by Anonymousreply 259August 23, 2017 12:58 AM

R226. My apartment is around the corner from the old (and historical) Max's Kansas City. It is now a Korean deli called Fraiche. In a small vestibule just next door, through the glass door, they have two black and white photos of Max's back in the day. Truly historic place. Bob Dylan, Andy Warhol, Edie Sedgwick. All of them ended up there to end a night (morning). It was there one drunken night that Mick Jagger got idea for cover of Sticky Fingers album w Andy.

by Anonymousreply 260August 23, 2017 1:11 AM

While re-arranging my glassware, I came across some Max's swizzle sticks. My brother was a regular, he used to collect everything and gave me a lot of his NYC club collectibles. I even have invites to private parties at Danceteria.

Can you imagine this double bill at Max's! I did see Television perform there and Lou Reed hanging out in the first floor's 'backroom'.

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by Anonymousreply 261August 23, 2017 3:42 AM

R193 - I visited that location decades ago.

by Anonymousreply 262August 23, 2017 4:00 AM

R261 Apparently that was in 1973. I wonder why rock concert tickets and posters so seldom print the year.

by Anonymousreply 263August 23, 2017 12:50 PM

I often wonder what would have happened if I'd stayed. I moved to Los Angeles, but I could have kept my Village apartment instead and had this boy move in me whom I was fucking at the time. He was my best friend in high school's cousin, he had given me mono (smoking pot, not kissing) when we were juniors, so we had history.

He was absolutely the best fuck of my life up to that point, but he insisted he was bi, and I knew from past experience that that meant he would end up with a woman, breaking my heart. He hinted that he was looking for a place to live, and how nice it would be if we shared a place, but I ended up saying "no" and moving to LA. No more bis for me.

He died of AIDS somewhere in California, while living with a woman. She made his quilt, which is how I found out he'd died. Still, I wonder "what if" from time to time.

by Anonymousreply 264December 21, 2018 1:07 AM

R249 Dongful looking? Love that!

Anyhoo does Twilight, Star Sapphire mean anything to anyone out there?

by Anonymousreply 265December 21, 2018 1:50 AM

Little mention of the fantastic gay nightclub scene. Maybe theres more mention in Part 1 ?

Anyway....The Saint, The Ice Palace, The Peppermint Lounge, Styx, Alex in Wonderland, the various Uncle Charlies, Waterworks, Private Eyes, Area, the Tunnel, the original Limelight....and thats only a few & only in Manhattan.

The outer boroughs had plenty of gay clubs & bars of their own. So did Jersey, Long Island & even Westchester County.

The Azuma I remember best was on 86th & 2nd. Back then, Yorkville was almost a completely German & Hungarian neighborhood.

Fioruccis IN 58th/Lex.

Anyone remember the 80s punk/new wave stores in the LES & Village? Manic Panic, Reminiscence?

by Anonymousreply 266December 21, 2018 3:04 AM

I remember getting Marimekko prints and stretching them over frames to hang on my walls.

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by Anonymousreply 267December 21, 2018 5:09 AM

Anyone remember a mafia bar from 1969 called The Gold Bug on W. 3rd? It was located in the basement of the building Edgar A. Poe lived in with his wife in the 1880s. Now gone.

by Anonymousreply 268December 21, 2018 5:11 AM

What was that Italian restaurant on the corner of Carmine and Bleeker catty-cornered from Joe's Pizza? It was run by nice people who took pity on students and small bank accounts. You could get a large bowl of minestrone soup and a generous chunk of Italian bread for three dollars.

by Anonymousreply 269December 21, 2018 8:34 AM

I don't remember the name, r269, but there was one place on Carmine (not sure of the intersection, but it could have been Bleecker) where I really liked the food. My friend who always got in fights with waiters took me there, and what do you know—he got in a fight with our waiter. So I never wanted to go back. But it might have been your place. I thought everything was lovely. I never saw things the way this person saw things. It got to be so embarrassing...and nervous-making, never knowing when he would blow up at nothing.

He is one reason I'm glad I don't live in NY any longer. I was adDICKted to him.

by Anonymousreply 270December 21, 2018 8:45 AM

[quote]Anyone remember a mafia bar from 1969 called The Gold Bug on W. 3rd?

Yes. My friends in NJ my last two years in HS and I used to drink there and the Red Witch on W. 4th. St. I probably wouldn't remember either place, but I was with them at the Red Witch when I saw my first gay man, a tiny little leprechaun of a man who approached us to buy us a drink. One of my "friends" suggested letting him buying us a drink then taking him out in the alley—were there even alleys?—and beating the shit out of him.

In order to keep the guy from getting beat up, I just said, "No, get the fuck outa here." And I wasn't friends with that group of friends anymore. I've googled the beater-upper, but his name is either ungoogleably common or he died. Perhaps of AIDS. If anyone I knew was one of those self-hating closet cases we talk about so often, it was this guy Sam.

by Anonymousreply 271December 21, 2018 8:52 AM

I had no idea so many great establishments have closed down.

by Anonymousreply 272December 22, 2018 6:33 AM

[quote]I had no idea so many great establishments have closed down.

It's just age. How many great establishments from 1938 were still open in 1978 (the same amount of time between 1978 and now)?

by Anonymousreply 273December 22, 2018 7:58 AM

Whew. I shouldn't worry then. Carry on.

by Anonymousreply 274December 22, 2018 8:19 AM

[quote]I saw my first gay man, a tiny little leprechaun of a man who approached us to buy us a drink.

Sounds about right. The Gold Bug had a door with a little window. A guy would look at you, close the peephole and if the door didn't open you didn't try to open it yourself. All these places were operated by mobster Matty Ianello. He was the gay bar kingpin. Young guys were never carded. I went to the Gold Bug when I was 16 and ordered a 7&7. They had a DJ who played songs like "Woman to Woman" by Shirley Brown for slow dancing. A lot of wronged women in that bar!

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by Anonymousreply 275December 28, 2018 5:07 AM

[QUOTE] While re-arranging my glassware

by Anonymousreply 276December 28, 2018 5:18 AM

[quote]he had given me mono (smoking pot, not kissing) when we were juniors, so we had history.

Ah, young love!

by Anonymousreply 277December 28, 2018 5:22 AM

There used to be a little hole in the wall on W. 4th called "The Bagel," which was good for breakfast (obv.) and celebrity spotting. And then there was The Pink Tea Cup (the original).

by Anonymousreply 278December 28, 2018 5:27 AM

R269 that place made great soup! I miss the drinking at Dew Drop Inn, Holiday cocktail bar, BBar, and Peggy Sue's.

by Anonymousreply 279December 28, 2018 12:31 PM

I remember shopping at the Azuma on 8th Street and there was one near my old high school, near Bloomingdales, Art & Design.

I'd also go to Alexanders department store once or twice a month to buy a few LPs. They had a great selection, the sale prices were amazing, around $2.59 for a single LP. They also had a great $1 LP bargain bin where I found some obscure gems! I bought Yoko's Grapefruit book at Alexanders, I still have it somewhere. IIRC, Dump was involved in Alexanders downfall. Quelle surprise!

Fiorucci was across from Bloomingdales, on East 59th Street. I bought black jeans and their cool T-shirts, as well as gifts for the hip trendy female friends in my life.

It's incredibly sad that NYC will never be the same.

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by Anonymousreply 280December 28, 2018 1:10 PM

Once a year Mom would put us in the station wagon and drive into the city so we could go to Luchow's on 14th Street (near S. Klein on the Square) for Sauerbraten and potato pancakes with apple sauce. The space eventually became the Palladium Disco and is now a PC Richards.

by Anonymousreply 281December 28, 2018 2:47 PM

R281, NYU student housing took over most of that block where the Academy of Music/Palladium and Luchow's were located.

RIP NYC.

by Anonymousreply 282December 28, 2018 4:30 PM

Getting my hair cut at Paul McGregor's in the Village and thinking how cool I was, even though I was still buying my clothing at Chess King at the mall.

by Anonymousreply 283December 30, 2018 6:37 PM

[quote]I don't remember the name, [R269], but there was one place on Carmine (not sure of the intersection, but it could have been Bleecker) where I really liked the food. My friend who always got in fights with waiters took me there, and what do you know—he got in a fight with our waiter. So I never wanted to go back

I used to go there. I lived on Carmine. The staff were notoriously horrible. Their soup was famous. You ordered. You didn't smile. You kept your mouth shut, except to eat.

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by Anonymousreply 284December 30, 2018 7:04 PM

[quote]Fioruccis IN 58th/Lex

Yes. Remember it well.

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by Anonymousreply 285December 30, 2018 7:06 PM

[quote]There used to be a little hole in the wall on W. 4th called "The Bagel," which was good for breakfast (obv.) and celebrity spotting. And then there was The Pink Tea Cup (the original).

I think we covered these in Part One.

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by Anonymousreply 286December 30, 2018 7:10 PM
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by Anonymousreply 287December 30, 2018 7:10 PM

Pink Teacup

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by Anonymousreply 288December 30, 2018 7:12 PM

Does Macy’s still have its wooden escalators?

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by Anonymousreply 289December 30, 2018 7:13 PM

I don't know.

Who really cares, quite frankly?

by Anonymousreply 290December 30, 2018 7:16 PM

1968 - name the location.

(love the traffic lights)

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by Anonymousreply 291December 30, 2018 7:27 PM
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by Anonymousreply 292December 30, 2018 7:29 PM

^^ '68 again

by Anonymousreply 293December 30, 2018 7:29 PM

West 8th St. December 17, 1966.

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by Anonymousreply 294December 30, 2018 7:30 PM

R44, Tortilla Flats closed a few months ago after 30 years thanks to a greedy landlord.

by Anonymousreply 295December 30, 2018 7:41 PM

R291, Sheridan Square Park. IIRC, The Duchess is on the left.

by Anonymousreply 296December 30, 2018 7:43 PM

I was looking at Part 1 of this and a few of the places mentioned as still open have since closed - in just the last 18 months.

by Anonymousreply 297December 30, 2018 7:43 PM

R289, one is still operating.

by Anonymousreply 298December 30, 2018 7:45 PM

Where's that gurl? (1969)

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by Anonymousreply 299December 30, 2018 7:46 PM

R286, The Bagel is now part of Tio Pepe who owns the building.

by Anonymousreply 300December 30, 2018 7:47 PM
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by Anonymousreply 301December 30, 2018 7:48 PM

^ 1980

by Anonymousreply 302December 30, 2018 7:49 PM

The Bagel was never that great. Dark little hole in the wall. Food - mediocre.

But it had character.

by Anonymousreply 303December 30, 2018 7:49 PM

Someone was trying to name the little coffee shop at 65th & Madison - it was called The Mayfair.

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by Anonymousreply 304December 30, 2018 7:52 PM

R33, Boots had to move. Landlord doubled rent. Relocated to former Actor's Playhouse, 100-A Seventh Avenue South. After three years closed in April 2017. Pieces's from Christopher Street has applied for a liquor license on Seventh.

by Anonymousreply 305December 30, 2018 7:53 PM

R284, Bleecker Luncheonette has been Spaghetto Trattoria since 1992.

by Anonymousreply 306December 30, 2018 7:56 PM

[quote]Bleecker Luncheonette has been Spaghetto Trattoria since 1992.

Remember Caffe Lucca - just a little farther down Bleecker?

by Anonymousreply 307December 30, 2018 8:01 PM

R257 The Village Voice was at Seventh and Christopher, now The Duplex.

by Anonymousreply 308December 30, 2018 8:10 PM

R225 The street scenes were shot on Morton between Bleecker and Seventh Avenue South.

by Anonymousreply 309December 30, 2018 8:15 PM

R1122 to avoid paying a monthly fee for a Non-Published number, Tony Randall was listed as Rudolph von Egg Cream.

by Anonymousreply 310December 30, 2018 8:22 PM

R52 read about a longtime Italian bakery that was going out of business. Today people are concerned about carbs and don't want to eat white flour that has no nutritional value.

by Anonymousreply 311December 31, 2018 12:00 AM

R55 Cornelia now pays $33,000 a month. Landlord wants more. They are closing in a few days.

by Anonymousreply 312December 31, 2018 12:03 AM

R140, this was Pioneer Super Market. Grand Union was at Bleecker and La Guardia, now Morton Williams Associated.

by Anonymousreply 313December 31, 2018 12:06 AM

New York was special and different. The internet and money have leveled that out. I had a festive early Christmas dinner at Cornelia, sorry they are being erased.

by Anonymousreply 314December 31, 2018 12:16 AM
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