Fire island Pines reality show Episode 1

Jorge is fucking hot.

Rather entertaining review (written by an ex; the only way to do it)

I lasted 30 seconds into the first episode.

Jorge is very sexy, especially when he's angry.

Cheyenne apparently was a terror in his West Hollywood days.

The guy who wrote that review, Jeffrey Self, is well known on the DL.

Overweight housemate - "I've spent years being insecure about my appearance because of my weight"

Smoker housemate with the plastic teeth who hangs out in a speedo - "I know. I go to the gym twice a day and I still feel insecure sometimes."

Here's housemate Patrick in some movie

Fire Island attracts all the hot boys.

Patrick, some guy, and two caterpillars.

Patrick was kind of cute when he was with Jeffery and he was the "normal" one of the two... who knew he would turn into such a freaky looking queen.

The first episode is already out? I didn't realize it had premiered already.

[quote]Patrick, some guy, and two caterpillars.

That's Chris Salvatore. A d-list actor with a pretty nice D who had his elderly neighbor he took care of and managed to get into every news outlet on Earth.

Patrick is better off when he's not trying to make that manbun happen.

R14 His inner queen has taken over... and to think, I thought he was the (relatively speaking) butch top in the ill-fated relationship with Self.

Jorge is fuckin hot and completely unstable. Good combo for reality TV I spose.

Patrick is fun and brought a much needed energy to the show. Though his look is so not sexy, he actually used to be good looking in those pictures.

Khasan seems like a great guy I want to be friends with, but almost too well adjusted for reality TV lol. Guess the house needs someone sane.

The rest didnt justify a comment yet. Also, all that build up to the Pines party and we saw none of it or even got stories.

Jeffery your recap was pretty entertaining, will keep reading.

Patrick was way more attractive back in his Self days. His weight in these stills is making me wonder if he's skipping eating as a byproduct of drug benders. His IG suggests he was in rehab recently.

He used to be a PA on The Talk. He was also in that DTLA series that I never got round to watching - strange as it featured my first gay crush, Danny from Real World New Orleans.

Jeffery's recap is good. I like him when he's... relaxed. His movie, You're Killing Me is worth a watch. Not a go go boy in sight, as I recall.

R17 Patrick does look like he's gone off the deep end... But then he was the one who quit his LA job, dumped the rebound guy and drove across the country to "find himself".

Jorge comes across as incredibly fake, all the others seem ok.

I would be interestesld to know if Patrick's relationship with Jeffrey involved a large caregiver aspect. I remember Self remarking about literally chasing Patrick down the street out of a bar. I'm not a drugs person, so perhaps that episode was coke related and not a manic/bipolar episode.

I think it's possible that the relationship became unworkable but that Patrick was so used to being the "strong one" that he lost it without someone to take care of, hence his party escapades. His attempt at doing drag seemed very odd.

So Brandon is a whore right? He has a guy who is flying him out to Texas, seems very escorty.

Also the lack of mention of drugs is very noticeable, it isn't just alcohol that is keeping this partying afloat.

Here is the original thread on this, has some good stuff.

The Pines party from the first episode was the last weekend of July, these guys didn't actually show up to Fire Island til near the end of the summer.

Here's a drinking game: Every time they say "Fire Island" take a drink...

Is it odd that none of them are white except for the uber-femme guy?

Even the Italian-American guy looks Puerto Rican.

And, as if it needs to be said, but THIS is why they hate us.

It's a like a Gay Pride Parade, only you get to meet the guys in the gold lame thongs.

The first episode was shown on MTV, however the show is on LOGO on Thursday nights. The first ep repeats this Thursday on LOGO.

I laughed at Cheyenne's "I'm a brand" nonsense. I guess that is a nice way to say you don't have a real job and your life is trying to be hot on instagram.

Though Khasan I guess is the only person in the cast that seems to have a career.

R27 That "brand" thing is so 2015.

All of them are so queeny... it's hard to watch.

Which ones are Mark Consuelos fucking?

[quote]Which ones are Mark Consuelos fucking?

What Kelly Ripa told Anderson, who whispered it to Rafael Alencar, who told my blatino husbear is that Mark got dicked down fierce by Khasan's dancer moves which earned him the right to be the show's leader. He ended up having to take turns fucking both Cheyenne and Brandon when a threesome went awry as neither one of those hungry bottoms will top. He tried to make a move on Jorge but ended up in some drama filled screaming match about how Mark isn't treating Kelly Ripa with respect. He never bothered with other the two since after giving them a second look, he realized he would actually rather have sex with his wife.

When I heard there was going to be a Fire Island series, I though it was going to be a drama series. Well, after the first two minutes I found out it was a gay reality show with too much drama. Needless to say, l lasted about three minutes before cutting it. Talk about drama queens!

+1 R29

The show need some hunky eye candy type who talks less and "presents" more.

That seems to be the role Cheyenne is meant to play r34. Someone who will be hot, naked and slutty. They had him changing his shorts in the middle of the store for his intro.

R35 The slutty part sort of kills the eye candy part. But then this show seems to go for trashy instead of classy, so there is no way it could get the type of guys that would appeal to me.

[quote]When I heard there was going to be a Fire Island series, I though it was going to be a drama series. Well, after the first two minutes I found out it was a gay reality show with too much drama

[quote] But then this show seems to go for trashy instead of classy

It is a bit hilarious to me that anyone could be confused about what type of show this was meant to be. Obviously it wants to be a silly reality TV show, the promos have been pretty clear. Like the first thread on it said "the real housewives of fire island"

The fact that the Pines Party was on the first episode was very strange until someone pointed out they didn't get there until mid summer. I didn't notice them until late August last year. Who starts a summer that late? Was the Logo budget so low they couldn't pay for a house for the whole summer?

Did valuables go missing from the house during filing? One of them is said to have a history of sticky fingers.

This guy really is straight from a Florida panhandle trailer park

"I was diagnosed with the possibility of having colon cancer".

A possibility diagnosis, huh?

The 21 year old doesn't read as younger than the rest. He'd probably be devastated to hear that.

I felt the same way r42, his big angle is being the baby of the group but I would not have guessed that. He looks pretty old for 21.

R40 The red state of Georgia, actually. A few years ago, I would never have guessed Jeffery Self would turn out to be the stable and classy (relatively speaking) one of these two.

I'm watching it now and I think Patrick is amping up his queendom for the camera - a backdoor way of helping his acting career (see also: doing drag).

The 21 year old keeps bringing up that he's 21 as if it's a big fucking issue. Ffs - that's when invites to B Singer parties STOP coming.

I think Jeffrey's bottomless ambition keeps him relatively discreet. He'll mention a threeway, but not that it was with Quinto and his child bride etc.

Horhay gave up being a doctor to do what in New York?

Cheyenne is the most annoying. He thinks he's quippy but he's not remotely funny.

Kyle Krieger has arrived.

Khasan in those brown briefs. Phew!

The 21-year-old looks at least 30. He goes to NYU business school. What will this show do for his job prospects.

I didn't understand the possible colon cancer thing either, especially when he said he had a bunch of stuff removed. If he didn't really have colon cancer, what did they remove and why was there so much of it?

[quote]He goes to NYU business school.

Well technically correct, but misleading. He is doing a marketing major for his undergrad, and the major is offered through the school of business.

He is not actually a business school student at Stern, getting his MBA. NYU has a very reputable business school, and that would be way more impressive.

Maybe the cook had a thorough colonic. John Wayne was apparently very backed up whrn he died, of cancer. I won't say those things were necessarily related but the cook seems a little dizzy and may have got 5 from 1+2.

[quote]Like the first thread on it said "the real housewives of fire island"

Or the gay [italic]Jersey Shore[/italic] ...

Wow, who did the casting for this? Most guys in the Pines are New Yorkers and this bunch does not represent in any way.

Cheyenne was the only one who wasn't based in the New York area r54, as he was living in LA. Unless I am missing something.

R50 It's probably years of backed up shit, it was probably really pounded in there.

Makes me miss FINDING PRINCE CHARMING

Looks like they go to the underwear party as well in tomorrow's premiere. Will it be the real one in Cherry Grove or the one no one goes to in the Pines. My guess is the Pines since these guys seem clueless.

R57 No it doesn't. I mean, this shit isn't great but it's not that bad.

Well hopefully next episode has some fun sex stories r58, if these guys go to this type of underwear party and there is no action they picked the wrong cast.

R60, have you been to the underwear party there? It's mostly posing in the main room and groping in the back room which isn't really a back room. It doesn't really bring in the most attractive guys. Look up Daniel Nardicio underwear party pictures and you'll see what I mean.

The Fire Island crew have an "emotional heart to heart" with eldergays.

Also does anyone know anything about Brandon (not the main cast member, the one Jeffery's ex was fucking).

I swear the "a guy is flying me out to Texas" means he is likely a whore, we should find his profile.

Cheyenne's been a big feature in the WeHo scene, used to get fucked by Murray Swanby. Some writings about him getting arrested on Saint Paddies.

Though I feel like everybody in WeHo was at point getting fucked by Murray Swanby

Underwear party? I hope the husky guy packed boxers.

The underwear party is mostly husky.

So I guess these are Patrick's nudes

Cheyenne sounds "slow"

No one is at their pool party. No one went to their end of the summer party, either.

Cheyenne is trying to act like society. That's the first sign of trash. And his past in WeHo.

Cheyenne is a drag.

Did the producers check for arrest records?

Probably checked to make sure they had one r73. Boring people make for boring television.

Look at the hashtags. He's like a self help basket case

Let's take a second to appreciate Khasan in those incredibly thin white shorts. In case you were wondering, he is apparently cut.

I remember those awful green tiles in Jeffrey's nudes. I wonder if they fucked the same guy and he leaked them. He went to the trouble of setting up a tumblr to leak a bunch of LA guys. Not a great dick among the lot, as I recall.

[quote]"I was diagnosed with the possibility of having colon cancer".

Translation = I got anal warts, had to be burned off.

FYI for any of you guys who don't know, the HPV virus that causes anal warts can actually cause cancer. Especially if you have a impaired immune system. Yet another reason to wear a condom. Its much more common than HIV. Close to 50% of Americans might be infected and not know it.

R78

For gays, it's more like 90-100% have hpv (the numbers are lower depending on the study because the test to detect it is not perfect).

People with Hiv, even if perfectly controlled, are much more likely to get cancer from it. Condoms don't really do much to protect against hpv.

To continue a discussion from another thread- PrEP may actually help to decrease cancer rates among gay men.

Ugh....can't believe I watched it. They tried to keep it out of the gutter with the elder gay sitdown and the gallery show.. Maybe Kashan is the best one. He's very good looking and doing something with his life. Liked the recap from Patrick's ex and learning Patrick is a student of these shows.

Miss Jeffery's recap of the second episode

If you, like most of America, don't have LOGO here is second ep.

Didn't Kelly Ripa and Consuelos get the dailies or weekend cuts and see that they didn't have a show? You could do an episode alone on the Pines Party or the underwear party if you cast funny people who had personalities you cared about.

This show was so boring. Nothing at all happened. All pretentious full-of-themselves instagram queens. And what's with Khasan and Jorge's weird relationship? If I was Khasan's boyfriend, we'd be having a come to Jesus convo.

If I was Khasan's boyfriend, we'd be having a c̶o̶m̶e̶ ̶t̶o̶ ̶j̶e̶s̶u̶s̶ ̶c̶o̶n̶v̶o̶ threesome.

FTFY.

Here is some interview with Cheyenne about the show

Opps, I believe this is the link

If they've already done the Pines Party, the next episode will be August so how many more episodes could there be?

Also, I'm pretty sure that house is for 8 people (and it's a dump inside). Why didn't they cast more housemates? If you've never been to Fire Island, you would never know what it's like by watching this train wreck.

I enjoyed the first two episodes but nothing really happens. I never thought I'd actually miss crazy reality-show drama. There are some very minor conflicts but nothing crazy.

Interesting to see that all these reality shows are shot exactly the same way: shot, shot, shot of the scenery and then a small scene with the character. More scenery, another short scene, etc etc etc

Fire island looks beautiful and there does seem like a variety of gays there (fat and ugly ones can be seen on the short beach shots).

I think the hairy Italian bear is so fucking sexy, but his low self esteem is painful

Someone in a previous thread said the Italian guy is a self absorbed bartender in NYC

Do these people have real jobs? What does Jorge do? He might come from South American money

🔥 🌴 is going 💣💣💥

Not much drama surprisingly.

Not much personality either

[quote]Do these people have real jobs?

Khasan is a successful back up dancer.

Brandon- Student Cheyenne- Model/instagram ho'/"burgeoning designer" Justin- Bartender/wannabe artist Patrick-currently bartending(?) on fire island Jorge- Supposedly a former doctor(want to check this...) who moved to New York to "reinvent himself". DEFINITELY comes from a wealthy family in South America. I mean c'mon, he showed up several million escalades in that story Khasan tells.

I'd assume they're making some kind of income from the reality show.

[quote]Cheyenne is a drag

Agreed, was on Patricks side this episode. Cheyenne was being an annoying little bitch and bringing down the vibe at the party while Patrick was desperately trying keep the energy up.

Also feel bad for Brandon realizing how almost everyone has a boyfriend when the point is a show about having fun on Fire Island.

Isn't Jorge from Venezuela? The family money might be gone.

Is Cheyenne allowed back in California or is there an outstanding warrant?

[Quote] I can't help but point out that there's a soothing sense of validation that comes from watching one's ex-boyfriend be confronted about his issues with compromise on a reality show.

Maybe Jeffrey and Patrick could be an upcoming season of FEUD if his reviews continue in this vein. Perhaps a vehicle for Matthew Broderick and Nathan Lane?

Jeffrey and Patrick are more like the Hatfields and McCoys.

I know a lot of people don't get Logo, but it doesn't show up in the top 150 shows from last night's ratings. I've never heard of some of the channels on this list

He had colon polyps surgically removed but they weren't cancerous. Nevertheless, they probably threatened him that they wanted to do bariatric surgery if he didn't work on his weight, so he's going to be a grouchy baby all series.

Why is the Gold Club advertising on Logo?

This show is nothing a well placed asteroid strike couldn't fix.

Which one of you bitches wrote this recap, I swear they must be a DLer? It's so fucking shady and I lived for it.

Well, the author of the recap admitted that he knows Justin "socially", as did one DL poster in the previous thread on this show who also tried to insist that Justin is hot and is a top.

The Jorge and Khasan storyline is tiresome.

Cheyenne's vocal fry is very off putting.

Possibly Anal's bf is cut and seems more all round appealing than any of the main cast.

*cute

I love how the bf was so unabashedly unimpressed at the prospect of wearing Polyps' underwear.

You are right r105, embarrassed I didn't connect those dots myself We see you Brian.

Cheyenne is a chain smoker.

Has Patrick lost weight for his drag career? He kind of has Liza mouth, even in the talking heads.

Which one is Brian?

Brian is the writer of the recap Rose.

I missed that. I remember seeing him on the Prince Charming after show.

My main problem is that there's no funny guys among the main cast. It's all a bit too weak drama.

Ugh...I much prefer Jeffrey Self to Bryan Moylan - Moylan was almost as bad as Rich Z for oversharing his sex life at gawker.

The 21-year old seems the most mature out of all the guys.

That's because he was frozen in the stone age and only recently thawed out for filming.

Oh snap, R117!

I'm going to Fire Island this summer with my new boo and my sisters in tow. What should we bring with besides lots of lube?

I love this show.

[quote]I'm going to Fire Island this summer with my new boo and my sisters in tow. What should we bring with besides lots of lube?

Your own groceries. Sexy beachwear. That's about it.

Id rather be in Ptown all summer

This show is another example of why they hate us . . .

This is why you are self-loathing r123. Don't try to blame it on other people, they aren't the ones ever watching this show.

Btw, they aren't representing "gay people". They are trying to do a gay version of trashy reality TV shows that straight people do all the time. The Jersey Shore was super-popular...

Patrick would be exhausting to deal with, but Cheyenne is just a wet blanket. Lighten up Mary!

I agree, R125.

I taped the premiere and just watched it last night. It was okay -- not bad, not great but definitely worth tuning in again next week. The cutest ones in my opinion are Khasan and Patrick (though, as R125 stated, he would be a lot to deal with).

I find it more enjoyable than Finding Prince Charming mainly because I think the guys are hotter. I wasn't attracted anyone in FPC. But I find almost every main cast member on this show hot except for the bear.

R127 . The bear has the biggest dick.

How do you know R128?

R128 is the bear. You bitches really think the cast isn't on this thread? Lol

[quote]You bitches really think the cast isn't on this thread?

Yeah, they are certainly checking it out, we know the "Finding Prince Charming" cast was reading these threads.

Cheyenne reminds me of Chad from Prince Charming. Essentially selfish and always in a little huff about everything.

Jorge suggested that there's going to be a season 2 in his Instagram.

Well obviously the cast desperately wants a season two but that ain't up to them.

Why is the Brazilian so uptight? I thought Brazilians were usually more outgoing? Why does he freak out over a little bit of nudity?

Well it might have something to do with the fact that he is definitely not Brazilian. He is Venezuelan.

R136 But didn't he say he was Brazilian? I'm confused.

Nope r137

Patrick doesn't get many likes on his Instagram pictures. So odd since he has 12,000 I'm sure legitimate followers. I guess this show wasn't his ticket to fame.

Camouflage thong, bandanas, and a barber's scissor tattoo. Did these guys just gets back from Milan?

Worse than the awful A List NY. A bunch of delusional nobodies. Who cares about any of them?

The "drama" on these episodes is so lame. Why bother manufacturing these stupid conflicts. They ought to just be more docudrama ala The Real World in its initial season instead of trying so hard to be Real Housewives. Fake fake fake.

Why even drama? It could be a sex comedy if they did it right. That's what weekends in the Pines are like. Having fun, laughing with friends, eating, drinking, hooking up, etc. They could try to catch that instead of low level, manufactured drama.

Forget them, This is why I hate us.

The first episode was rushed and had petty drama that no one cares about on a reality show. Nobody watched it.

Huh

Did anyone notice when the bear was talking to his boyfriend, the bit about Cheyenne offering to help set up the art show was dubbed in, not something he actually said to the bf. Very sloppy of the producers.

Those of you who know Patrick, is he playing a character? Is this all a ploy to raise his profile and maybe get on Drag Race with his drag alter ego?

Patrick's boyfriend seems trashier than he his. He seems to have a lot of attitude for someone who had to sleep outside after the Pines Party.

The best thing about the picture at r76 is Cheyenne and Brandon are staring hard and taking in the sight of dat bulge.

[quote]Patrick's boyfriend seems trashier than he his. He seems to have a lot of attitude for someone who had to sleep outside after the Pines Party.

He definitely has this very stand-offish attitude, and yeah, motherfucker has angel wing's tattooed on his back. You don't get much trashier than that.

But it ain't boyfriend, Justin already made that mistake. Don't think they are more than occasional fuckbuddies (and probably drug buddies)

Austin come back!

The brazilian guy's over the top reactions and facial expressions make him look like a silent movie actor.

R153 There is no Brazilian guy.

Patrick looks like John Waters.

No one has posted Cheyenne's nude bathroom pics? They're out there...

Very disappointed in the nipplage on this show. Not a perky set of nips on any of them. Patrick's are the best but hardly something to tune in for. Bunch of flat mosquito bites.

[quote]No one has posted Cheyenne's nude bathroom pics? They're out there...

What's the point of trying be cutesy? Why not just post them then...?

Patrick is gross yet seems like he'd be a fantastic fuck.

I think Patrick is yucking it up for the cameras. I can't believe anyone would want to actually hang around a guy like that

I like Patrick but could only tolerate him in small doses...his enthusiasm is fun. Cheyenne is a good looking but the whiniest of whiny bitches. Brandon the juvie is boring af. The other guys would be fun to hang with except the South American that is constantly trying to control the environment...that gets old quick.

Wonder if Jorge is as "on" when the cameras aren't rolling?

[quote]I think Patrick is yucking it up for the cameras. I can't believe anyone would want to actually hang around a guy like that

Honestly Patrick is the only one that has actually made me laugh so far, so I hope he doesn't stop yucking it up for the cameras or this show would be hella boring.

Patrick was pretty gorgeous in his LA days, before he dieted/drugged to drag queen weight. There's flame in this vid (hands!) but more chill. Jeffrey was very brave here.

r163 Self looks almost anorexic in that video although he seemed to have a nice package but that might be an allusion next to his emaciated body...

Where are all the penis pics of the cast?

As a flyover gay I'm eating this show up. I could never afford to go there. It looks cool to have a gays only island and so many scantily clad men all around. That said that guy with the Ricky Ricardo Sofia Vegaro shtick has to go. The model is hot but what's up with his eyes? The hot beefy guy is not hot due to his low self confidence. I bet that old couple with the yacht hired the 21 year old.

I bet Cheyenne is a great bottom.

r163 Damn DL typos - illusion not allusion.

Speaking of dick pics, didn't Jeffrey Self's leak a few years back? Anything nice?

Jeffery's dick pic is posted in the thread about him linked at r3 etseq

R6 rather*

[quote]I bet Cheyenne is a great bottom.

One of the posters at WeHo Confidential claimed that Murray said Cheyenne was one of his favorite bottoms.

I can't imagine a bossier bottom than Cheyenne. And he probably lights up halfway through.

He kind of looks like a monkey but I can't figure out which type.

Cheyenne has lost weight since the show taped

Yeah r172, he went vegan so lost some mass

Did he think he looked fat when he saw the show?

And where was Patrick's Southern accent in the movie review Youtube? Suddenly, he gets to Fire Island and he turns into Scarlett O'Hara, by way of Mobile.

Lean Cheyenne, pass

So tonight's show looks like beach volleyball and a trip to the Grove for a drag show. Will we hear more about the big guy's insecurity? Will Cheyenne forget he has a boyfriend? Will there be another Latin hissyfit?

Will anyone watch?

Like sand in the vasoline, so are the Gays of our Lives.

Fire Island is the gay Disney Land.

What's up with the bandannas?

They're the new hankie code for 1) insufferable 2) whiney 3) dumb as a stump and 4) fame whore

I guess no one on the East coast watched tonight's episode.

When does Sepulveda show up?

[quote]I guess no one on the East coast watched tonight's episode.

Who watches LOGO live? I'll catch the ep tomorrow on their website.

Who spends a Friday on the Logo website?

What are the ratings like for this? I never see it on the Top 150 cable series.

I thought Jorge freaked out about nudity at the house?

[quote]Who spends a Friday on the Logo website?

Girl, how long do you think it takes to watch an episode? Spoiler alert, it doesn't take up your entire Friday.

Anyway, apparently the episode is already up on their website.

These guys don't get a lot of likes on their Instagrams so the ratings must be nothing.

Is the Rock Bottom podcast coming back to cover this? They should. Their coverage of Prince Charming was spotty but fun.

When does Reichen show up?

Patrick does drag!

Aww.. Jallen. They didn't include how he's like the first college basketball player to come open publicly. He might feel he really stands out... Looks like he's getting dumped or told to back up next week. When you meet someone at that age and it's mutual it's so tempted to dive in before you even know what you want..

Cheyenne is the villain of the cast.

They have area code 347 in Venezuela?

Why does Cheyenne promote the show on his Instagram since he's coming out so douchey on it? Is fame all that matters in whatever form?

[quote] Is fame all that matters in whatever form?

Fame is all that matters to all of these guys. Is that a real question? Why do you think they wanted to do a show like this in the place? It's fantastic exposure for them.

It's fantastic exposure for what? To get more Instagram followers? That's pretty much all it will lead to. This won't lead to jobs. Who would want to hire these guys after this? You think they'll turn this into a book or end up with talk shows?

I didn't realize this was being produced by Mark Consuelos and Kelly Ripa. I wonder if Andy Cohen is a silent partner...and if he is hiding under one of the beds.

For someone like Cheyenne his relevance (and sense of self-worth....) is pretty much completely based off how many people follow him on instagram r198.

The bearish guy keeps talking about how uncomfortable he is with his body yet he's always shirtless and has run around in tiny shorts and underwear plus he has a young bf. So, how uncomfortable is he really?

The bearish one looks ok I think.

What kind of a "model" is Cheyenne considered? He's too short for a runway model and too generic for a fashion spread. Catalog work for gay clothing lines?

[quote]Aww.. Jallen. They didn't include how he's like the first college basketball player to come open publicly.

I wouldn't say poor Jallen, they had Brandon bragging over and over that he is hung like a horse, which what guy isn't going to appreciate that being said about you lol.

But yeah, he is a less superficial article about him being the first openly gay college basketball player.

[quote]They have area code 347 in Venezuela?

Yeah, I clocked the New York area code as well.

Does ANY gay people really use the word mistress? I was so confused that this was shown as some normal gay thing. None of my friends use that term and I've never seen it on the DL either.

You are in an open relationship with your boyfriend and you have tricks/hook-ups on the side. None of this "mistress" shit.

Jeffery's recap

Brian's recap

I will say I agree with Brian how it is weird how this show treats sex. We hear from Cheyenne than Brandon has been having threesomes and orgies. We see no evidence of that on the show.

We hear Jorge say that he regrets hooking up with "his mistress", we never see that go down on the show.

This Jallen person must have improved since the pic linked. I hate struggle facial hair.

I agree about the oddly sexless vibe of the show, even with people apparently pulling their dick out at barbecques.

Brit trash tv shows have long shown dick. I guess Logo can't show such shocking appendages?

I know LOGO can't show dicks, that isn't even what I mean, I don't expect them to show us them having sex. It just seems like when anything sexual might go down the camera crew makes sure to stay a mile away. We don't even see any lead up to these things getting ready to happen. We just hear about it later.

Logo has a very tight budget and, like Finding Prince Charming, the camera crew probably only films them during the day and leaves at night.

Plus, the cast is only there during the weekends so we really don't know what happens during the entire week OR on weekend nights.

R213 - I was at their house at night on a weekend and the crew was there (though not much of one). They've already showed night footage.

These guys are pretty repulsive. This is what we eldergays fought so hard for? This? Shame.

The whorebag shtick is getting old.

I couldn't help but laugh when they were walking through the meat rack and the dancer starts to give a gay history lesson on anonymous sex.

Cheyenne refers to this guy and Jorge as his "brothers" yet neither one seems to like him.

The basketball player seems like a decent guy so the rest will surely shit all over him.

I love how Cheyenne and Justin could bother to be there for more than 18 hours of the weekend and Patrick was working over the weekend too.

This show isn't THAT much of a time commitment. It's not like Big Brother where they lock you in a house for 2-3 months without any contact to the outside world. They have to be there from Friday evening to Sunday evening for 8 weeks. Don't sign up for the show if you can't be there. Did LOGO not have them sign any contracts?

Who has the biggest penis ?

Hmmm...weren't there any attractive people who wanted to be on this show?!? Nellie gurls swishing around...sibilant Ss slithering from their gaping maws...'Gay Face' in every iteration...so pathetic! Did the gay porn industry shut down while these cum-dumpsters were squealing for supper on Fire Island?!?

Does that happen a lot that gay friends do Fire Island only on weekends and travel back and fourth? How does that work with the house in Fire Island? Do you rent it only for the weekend and others rent it on work days?

I am surprised that I have not yet seen one gay porn star on the show. And I've seen all three episodes so far.

I find the drama a bit silly. In the first episode it's jorge who is uptight about guests getting naked and frisky with each other and in the next episode it's Cheyenne who is bothered by people showing up. And boy, that Cheyenne is such a dick when he can't even be bothered to send a text not being able to show up at events he promised to show up.

The whole show seems rather sad. Since it doesn't look like these guys (well, apart form Jorge and Khasan) like each other that much and still they have the lamest drama ever on a Reality TV show. It's like, why even bother with the drama?

Most of the boyfriends (except Cheyenne's) look way hotter than the main cast members. But I already feel sorry for Jallen since, apparently, he gets the clingy edit in the next episode. He seems so nice.

Jorge is such a drama queen. The way he was crushed when his boyfriend blew him off and doesn't want visit him on Fire Island after all felt so melodramatic.

The show is almost sexphobic with its lack of make out sessions. Why do a Fire Island Reality Show when you don't show casual hook-ups?

And what is up with these guys not even being able to stay the whole week-end? Doesn't the production pay these guys enough to even commit fulltime to the filming schedule? That's just sad.

Yup. You pay for the season and come out on the weekends. Unless you're kept or rich.

House rentals work where you have it for a certain set of weeks, but yes often people can only come out to their house on weekends because they have jobs.

So people can afford to rent houses for several weeks and only use them on weekends? That's extravagant. I get that it's roommate situation and everybody chips in, but still it must cost a fortune to rent a house for several weeks and then use it only on the weekends and also pay for all the back and fourth travelling as well (not to mention for all the clubs, restaurants, and party drinks on the Island).

I've had friends do more of a time share thing with the rentals. Like you go out with a group for one or two full weeks and then the house moves on to another tenant. It's really a pain to get out there, so the coming and going every weekend isn't ideal. Honestly, I've never heard of anyone doing that all summer long.

And the island is not completely gay AT ALL. I would guess there are about 10-12 little communities and most are straight. Lots of families out there. The Pines is gay and Cherry Grove is lesbian and some gay, but the rest of it is straight.

Didn't Jorge say in the first episode that he left his family, career, and boyfriend back in Venezuela to start a new life in New York? Now, he's claiming he still has that boyfriend? I don't blame that guy for not taking his calls. If Jorge loved him, he would have taken him with away from that hellhole. But no, he left his boyfriend to starve in Venezuela.

It sounded like the boyfriend was in Barcelona, or traveling to Barcelona. He seems to be doing just fine.

Jorge is so stupid with his "long distance relationship." Lame.

Jorge's boyfriend, Fabio, (who still might be somewhat closeted?) was traveling to Barcelona for a party that weekend rather than coming to visit Jorge on Fire Island, even after Jorge begged him to come and admitted that they hadn't seen each other in months.

Obviously, the relationship is basically over and Jorge's just holding on to it as a security blanket. He doesn't have any issues hooking up with his mistresses, so call it what it is and be over with.

Fabio was sending Jorge's calls to voicemail and refused to say "I Love You" although Jorge tried three times to prompt the response.

I think before the end of the show Jorge is going to do a Carmen Miranda bit.

[quote]Obviously, the relationship is basically over and Jorge's just holding on to it as a security blanket. He doesn't have any issues hooking up with his mistresses, so call it what it is and be over with.

They have been together 8 years at that point, it's not like they are newbies to this or whatever shit. They also have an open relationship and so other hookups aren't anything new.

Like Khasan said, he has seen them fight a million times but they are still together after all these years. I guess I have seen relationships similar to Jorge and his boyfriend, so it isn't that crazy to me.

[quote] If Jorge loved him, he would have taken him with away from that hellhole. But no, he left his boyfriend to starve in Venezuela.

Lol, do you think everyone in non-western countries are poor? Jorge and his boyfriend obviously come from wealthy society in Venezuela. His boyfriend was going off to vacation in Ibiza rather than "slumming it" in Fire Island. Being left to starve, please bitch, as was noted earlier in the thread the cell he called had a New York area code.

Did Cheyenne have some lip surgery recently or does it just look like that because he became a vegan?

Does anyone know the current status of Fabio and Jorge? Are they still together? What about Justin and the guy from Alabama?

Justin's situation was weird to me. Those two had only been together for three months and yet Justin was already calling him his "partner" and "the one." The bf seems to go to school in Alabama, but maybe had decided to spend the summer in NYC? Justin said they moved in together almost immediately after they met. So did this guy come up from Alabama, see that Justin had a nice apartment and needed a place to stay? I feel like Justin was an easy mark with his low self-esteem and this guy got a nice spot to crash for a couple months.

I think Cheyenne is by far the hottest, irrespective of personalities. I don't think Whore-hey is all that, and the dude with the pitiful excuse for a man bun looks like a half drowned rodent

[quote] So people can afford to rent houses for several weeks and only use them on weekends? That's extravagant.

Maybe not as much as it might sound? The houses are presumably not priced as hotels.. Also, it's less than obvious to get to and there's not really a lot of there there.

R235 - "His boyfriend was going off to vacation in Ibiza rather than "slumming it" in Fire Island."

Fire Island is "slumming it" compared to Ibiza? You've never been to either place, have you? Ibiza is one a the trashiest places in Europe, and that's saying something.

Cheyenne seems to be starting a new business called Maison Parker. Oh my, that sounds so chichi and exclusive. As of yet, he only has to posts on its Instagram page and the website doesn't work. Not the usual way to launch a venture. I wonder what it's all about? Is cheyenne trying to be the gay GOOP?

...Did you notice my purposeful use of quotes around slumming it r240? It really ain't that serious. The real point is that traveling to Ibiza is more expensive than traveling to Fire Island. That poster saying that Jorge needs to rescue his starving boyfriend who is trapped in Venezuela was funny to me.

Any good pics of Jorge's BF? He looked kind of hot in the video call, but it wasn't all that clear.

I agree, R238. Cheyenne is definitely the hottest one.

r238 r244 I'm not physically attracted to Cheyenne tho. His personality doesn't help either. To me, physical wise, Jorge is the hottest. But he seems unstable so that's a turn off.

The only two I find attractive are Khasan and Patrick. The rest, even Jorge, are okay but nothing I'd go for personally.

Jorge's thick accent bugs me.

It misses the big drama scandal like Prince Charming had (Prince Charming being a common hustler with porn clips of him swallowing semen out of condoms). It gave Prince Charming a great Reality TV trash feel. Fire Island Pines feels just meh.

Yes. Charming had a meta entertainment value - what they were trying to get us to swallow onscreen versus what RSJ was swallowing... eh... onscreen.

Prince Charming was really incredibly boring to watch, it was just a lot of fun to bash Robert and the ridiculousness of the whole enterprise with you bitches.

Fire Island is so far a more entertaining show purely based on whats on the screen, though that ain't saying much at all

As per R228, the way the island is laid out, the two gay towns are separated from the straight towns by a large state park. So very limited interaction. The straight towns vary between very family-oriented and very singles oriented

R251, how far away are the straight towns? I mean, could a person rent a place in the straight towns (presumably much cheaper) and just walk over to the Pines?

Heading east, the next settlement is Water Island, about a 20 minute walk on the beach. No town and the only gay there is Michael Kors and his Scandinavian husband. Another 15 minutes is Davis Park which is cheap and like the Florida panhandle.

You could take a water taxi to the towns to the west but why would you want to? You can see who gets off on the train for those places and the crowd is pretty trashy.

You can find deals in the Pines.

Cheyenne was the hottest one when the show started, but probably not at the end.

As someone who has done Fire Island shares in previous years, it is kinda crazy how you pay for full weeks but most of us only go for the weekends. So say you do a Quarter share (5 weeks) and drop 5K - then with the transportation, food, drinks etc - you're basically spending about $1400 PER weekend (two nights)

I've had a half share in a very nice house for 5 years and if you're coming out to $1400 per weekend, you're doing something very wrong.

Here's a quarter share for $2400. R255 got suckered.

That house is so nice, R257. Maybe I don't understand Fire Island.. Also, if you took them up on this and you weren't 2 people and you wanted the $2400 cost, you'd potentially agree to share a room with someone you don't know?

Of course r258, you would be rooming with someone you don't know. I mean the people interested are responding to an ad to live in a house with guys they don't know at all.

Not trying to sound like a snob but the house isn't on the ocean nor even the bay - which is fine - but it will be a bit less expensive than if it was

That Craigslist ad seems like a scam. Why would six (normal) gay men look to fill spots on CL to randoms? They would go on Facebook and post and look for either friends, acquaintances, or referrals

Agree totally with R238. I like how Cheyenne speaks to the camera with a completely straight face and then ends with a laugh. Justin seems kind of needy and I was unimpressed with his cornpone "boyfriend." I thought his art was nothing to write home about.

And Patrick is just sad. When he showed up with his cheap townie co workers it sucked all the air out of the room. And why did they decide to drag that entire dinner all the way down the beach in that wind storm?

They're all so flat and one dimensional that it's hard to get plot lines underway. And I don't get the whole "family dinner" deal either.

Patrick's accent keeps getting thicker. He's making Paula Dean sound like she's from the Bronx. It's totally fake.

R261 - Lots of people fill shares with randoms. The gay & lesbian center in the village hosts shareathons in the winter and spring where share seekers and sellers can meet and connect. It's pretty popular. Also, friends frequently want to come out for weekends for free and not commit to paying for a quarter or half share. Everyone has a story about this kind of friend so it's not always easy to fill a house with people you know. Third, people use Instagram now, not Facebook.

A short pictorial history of The Pines...

Ok, I've to to say that this thread is a much better and more entertaining than the show itself.

Thank you, especially the ones sharing their experiences regarding renting a house on Fire Island and r264 about the shareathons.

I wonder if Andy Cohen had any input on this show. He rents a house for a week or two on the beach every summer not from from where this was filmed. He shares the house with that Hickey actor who everyone seems to dislike and wasn't nominated for 6 Degrees. You can find a lot of pictures of him out there. A few summers ago, one house made t-shirts with his face on them and wore them to tea in hopes of meeting him. I happened to witness the humiliating moment and Andy looked a bid taken back, but maybe that was just his wonk eye.

My favorite among the cast members is BRANDON. A cute, bearded, 21-year old Latin twink, YUM!

I do not believe for a second that Brandon gets rejected for being too young (with 21????). I could see him being rejected for looking like a cub (young bear, because of his hair).

So far I like Jorge's Latin "mistress" the best. He was adorable.

The show would have been so much better if they had eight random strangers come together for a share on the island. At the beginning of the pilot they tried to play it off like these were all friends (or at least good acquaintances) of Khasem and he had organized these summer so they could all be together. It's clear only he and Jorge really know each other. Everyone else is a total stranger and the producers should have played it that way. Be like an all gay cast of The Real World: Fire Island.

Didn't Jorge say he's been going there for 4 years? And most of the others have spent time there yet the only one who seems to know anyone else in the Pines is Patrick. That's very strange. You run into people from the city there left and right. Cheyenne seems like the only one who wouldn't run into anyone since he seems sod L.A. and people probably go the other way when they see him.

I'd fuck Brandon and Cheyenne. Justin's boyfriend had a surprisingly decent body. Kazan and Jason = zzzzzzzzzz

Cheyenne has an "intellectual disability".

R240, how dare you, betch! Ibiza is everything. TRASH! You're trash! I have a charity that helps poor people, betch.

Fabio was going to Barcelona, not Ibiza; Barcelona is most definitely a step up from Fire Island.

Comparing Fire Island to Barcelona is stupid. They're entirely different places. However, this would have been the point in the summer when Europe's biggest circuit party was being held in Barcelona. It attracts the cheesiest guys Europe has to offer and they look like they're still in the circuit scene from the 90s. I'm sure that's where Fabio was and probably had 15 of his own mistresses every day. Here's an old article about the event.

This is an unimportant argument, but I am pretty sure Jorge does mention Fabio ended up going to Ibiza. At least the towleroad recap backs that up.

[quote]We later learn Fabio promised to come visit this weekend but went to Ibiza instead, and I just want to know what kind of lives do they lead where Fabio can just go to Ibiza on a whim and Jorge shows up to J.Lo’s dancers’ hotels with five Escalades? Are they some kind of heirs?

Patrick= Jack McFarland

So, apparently the "drama" on this show is going to be listening to each of these queens whine and dither over whether they are going to be "faithful" to their b.f. or go out and fuck their brains out on the Island. Sounds exciting. (not)

r280, you forgot the "Don't be tardy to my party" drama where roommates don't show up for stuff they promised to show up for.

I would imagine there's plenty of sex going on, they just aren't showing it because gay sex is, you know, icky.

When I was a kid my father got cruised by Mr. Clean on Fire Island. He had a small coffee shop right off the ferries in Ocean Park. (The straight area.) We were opening up one day when I noticed this man in all white with a bald head and a gold earring leaning up against the fence with his arms crossed. He was staring at my father. I was six. I said, "Dad look! It's Mr. Clean!" He turned around real quick and said, "Don't look at him!" LOL.

[quote]The bear has the biggest dick.

Sure about that Justin?

Cheyenne's dick looked pretty big in the bathroom shot but he was a twink then and skinny so maybe that made it look bigger.

It was Patrick posted above r285, not Cheyenne.

Justin need a brazilian wax

Khasan is easily the hottest on the show.

Khasan be gorge, but I still wanna grab Cheyenne, take him deep into the woods and skewer him

R286, there's a nude bathroom selfie of Cheyenne from his West Hollywood days.

So now just waiting for naked Jorge and Khasan

Oh, I should have known it was you. You said that earlier but didn't post it then either. What a great contributor to the board you are dear.

Why do these guys not seem to be talking about the show at all? At least on FPC the suitors were all over social media gossiping about the show.

"Person who posted Patrick and Justin's dick pics"

What a rich and exciting life.

[quote]What a rich and exciting life.

You cut me so deep!

[quote]Why do these guys not seem to be talking about the show at all?

Yeah, it does seem like they should be making a bigger effort to really try to promote this show.

The FPC suitors were so thirsty for fame. They dished out the tea after every episode, giving interviews or instagram posts galore.

Granted, there was a lot more to discuss re: Robert's seedy past (pun intended), but even Cheyenne isn't promoting this well and his profession is instagram ho.

I wouldn't be surprised if the production put some severe clauses in the cast's contract for that very reason (the cast of Prince Charming dishing out the tea and shading each other on social media) and, as a result, killed all the (social media) buzz coming from that.

That wouldn't surprise me either, R296, but production should still want them tweeting/instagraming positive things about the show.

Maybe they saw the rating and realized it was futile.

Yes, they had to pass rigorous, er, background tests.

Khasan is the grown up. And the hottest. And the most stable. The rest are pure trash.

Khasan has the hottest body, but when he opens his mouth it's a turn off. Such a masculine looking guy and then the gay voice. A waste.

At least Jorge and Cheyenne don't sound so gay. Jorge in particular is essentially straight acting, which de facto makes him the hottest.

Jorge is straight acting? Compared to Carson Kresley, maybe

Brandon just said he flew to LA for a couple of days to make $30,000 for a styling gig? He was somebody's stylist? I thought he was a model? Do stylists make that much money.

R303 Stylists who give blowjobs don't even make that much money. #delusionalBrandon

Did the Bear just say he tried to kill himself because he thought he MIGHT have colon cancer? Is that because he wouldn't be able to bottom anymore?

I thought it was Cheyenne, and not Brandon who said he went to LA for $30,000 for a photo shoot

It was Cheyenne. Thank you for correcting me. They all have such hip masculine gay names I get them confused.

If that photo shoot cost $30,00 it was because of coke.

I knew you must have made a mistake. Brandon, a model?

Cheyenne is starting a lifestyle brand. I'm sure it will be a success.

Brandon is 21. When you are 21, older men will find you cute, no matter what you look like.

Is Cheyenne's lifestyle brand for primates?

Patrick was cast to be the "bad guy"/villain of the show, right? He is obviously there just to create drama. He's such an attention whore with his fake accent.

[quote]Did the Bear just say he tried to kill himself because he thought he MIGHT have colon cancer? Is that because he wouldn't be able to bottom anymore?

Remember, R305, Justin is a "top" with a "big dick", and "gets as much tail as he wants".

I like Cheyenne and Brandon's friendship, it's cute.

Does Cheyenne have a crush on Brandon?

Didn't Brandon say in last week's episode that could be never be a real friend with someone like Cheyenne who treats people so poorly?

[quote]Patrick was cast to be the "bad guy"/villain of the show, right

As Jeffery has said, Patrick is an aficionado of reality TV and he is the one most aware they are characters on a reality TV show. He has definitely been going out of his way to stir the pot because of course.

[quote]Did the Bear just say he tried to kill himself because he thought he MIGHT have colon cancer?

Yeah, I know that was meant to be a serious emotional moment but I honestly laughed.

"We really want to go dance" "we got back and of course none of us are ready to sleep" yes, you guys are rolling hard on molly.

Its fine if Brandon doesn't want anything relationshippy with the big-dicked giant, but he didn't have the balls to say that to him at all. I appreciated Cheyenne calling him out on that.

I would give that big dicked giant all the relationshippy he wanted. Then again if I was 21 maybe not.

Getting boring

They're busking so hard for plotlines. "OMG Patrick, you and the other Brandon aren't a thing, I feel so misled!"

"I'm starving for a cocktail"

"Move tepidly [with Brandon]".

Where is this charm of which Justin speaks re Brandon?

Its very charming the way he spreads his legs so freely.

I love watching these guys just be themselves and having a wonderful time of Fire Island.

When I came out, I was too afraid of rejection to ever consider going to Fire Island. I love the self confidence in these guys and wish I had that at that age.

Lovely to see Brandon go through his young love moments.

You wouldn't know that Brandon was whoring it up from watching this show. They present everything as SO chaste. For all the sexual energy and casual sex that goes on there, why aren't we seeing these guys making out, grinding, going off into the woods?

Needs something soon.....zzzzzzzzzzzzz

R248 odd how the guy who claims to have body image issues has his nudes all over the internet

I like Jorge's body but does he actually have a job of some sort?

I love Khasan's personality-- loving and accepting of all

Yes but he's in the background on the show

Khasan doesn't have any African-American gay male friends?

They should do a musical episode a la Buffy and OMWF.

Jorge is a doctor R329

R332, I was asking the exact same question.

R334,he's a doctor in Venezuela. He's a nothing here.

In order for a foreign doc to practice in the US, he must re-do internship and residency.

No evidence that Jorge is doing any training

Jorge specifically said in the pilot that he gave up being a doctor to move to the US. He obviously comes from a wealthy family and I'm sure they help support him. Maybe he escorts in HK. It would be nice to know a little more about these guys and how they support themselves.

Justin is trying to pass himself off as an artist, but after seeing his "art" thumbtacked up in the gallery we know that avenue isn't paying the rent.

Cheyenne is apparently making 30K for a photo shoot (ha!) and is a self-described liftestyle brand, but where exactly is his cash coming from?

Brandon is a student, but where is he getting money to pay the bills. NYC is not cheap! I don't think he's living in an NYC dorm...

Khasan clearly has the most stable work life.

Have they mentioned what parts of city they live in?

Don't understand why they had to import Cheyenne from LA. Seems like there would be plenty of famewhore queens in NY wanting to be on this show.

LOL, R338.

[quote]Khasan doesn't have any African-American gay male friends?

Let's be real, the only person on this show that was actually a real friend of Khasan's was Jorge. All this other people picked for the show might have met him before, but obviously they weren't close.

Cheyenne taking a picture to show off his ass, and pairing it with some silly mumbo jumbo that is the sort of thing stupid people thinks sounds wise.

I guess that sums him up.

So many Instahoes do that. I have no idea why, because I doubt many of their followers read through the "inspirational" babble. They just tap the like button and scroll past to the next narcissist. Or they might take a moment to post a gushing comment.

Yep it is so dumb. One reason Max Emerson annoys me less than these type of people is never does that sort of bullshit and actually has a sense of humor about the whole thing, sees it for what it is.

The last episode was filmed in late August of last year. Does that mean there's only one episode left? I doubt if they stayed past Labor Day.

Sounds like real must not see tv.

No you love Max because his ass is bubbly without looking fake.

Cheyenne had enough cash to pay for that body.

Whose cash?

Whose body? He doesn't look enhanced. It costs nothing to work out.

I don't even know what r346 was trying to say.

Opps, meant to sign that R343* But I would never describe Max's ass as bubbly. Nor Cheyenne's as fake.

I hate that Jorge dude. He has freckles too. Cheyenne is a little bitch, and he is not that hot. Neither is his boyfriend. I ended up liking Patrick the best, he needs a stylist though. That hair is a mess. The show is pretty boring. I think I will pass.

Jorge's definition of trashiness suggests middle class anxiety. Rich people like trashy.

The only one worth a second look is Khasan. He's gorgeous (stunning dancer's body) and he seems normal---gainfully employed, levelheaded and sweet. You can keep the rest of them. They seem like a typical collection of damaged losers--dreamers, addicts, leeches and instagram attention whores.

[quote]The only one worth a second look is Khasan. He's gorgeous (stunning dancer's body) and he seems normal---gainfully employed, levelheaded and sweet.

True, but um, he's black.

Khasan is deep, dark and delicious--well not too deep I am sure. His skin is beautiful..

Bullshit, R355. We LOVE beautiful black men.

When I was Brandon's age (21) I was just like him, a hot little twink, and older men lined up to plow my ass.

R357, that's just not true.

Honestly Jorge's theatrics make this shit that was borderline unwatchable, definitely unwatchable.

More of their paid vacation shots. They all look very different without studio lighting and Photoshop.

Bulge looks much smaller in candid shots

[quote] without studio lighting and Photoshop.

LOL! Don't be naive, that picture has been altered with facetune. It's the photoshop app that lets you easily adjust pictures on your cell before adding them to instagram. Everyone who is "a person" on instagram uses, no picture you see on is actually unaltered.

They certainly do a lot of drinking on the show-- how do they maintain those bodies with all that alcohol?

This is just a BAD show. It seems rushed and the drama is very forced. My biggest annoyance is that they SPOIL what's coming up ahead on the episode. I understand why they do that to keep their minimal audience tuned in, but it just ruins any "suspense" that's coming.

[quote] Twice they've used clips of Cherry Grove.

HORRORS, MARY!!!

R363, I think you're missing the point. They look at hell of a lot different when they're styled and photographed by a professional who makes them a lot more muscular, pretty, and with a lot more bulge. Sure, they use an app on vacation. Who doesn't? But that doesn't compare.

At least no one will try this again. First the old Bravo tried it and it was depressing,, then there was that A-LIst show, now this disaster. Enough.

R9 Kevin Nash still has a house on Fire Island, which I have visited many a time, thanks for asking.

Looks like they go to the Grove again on tomorrow's episode. Why so much time there? Were they shunned in the Pines? Didn't they get invited to any house parties or dinners?

Many people prefer the Grove to the Pines, r370, as unfathomable as that may seem to you.

Doesn't everyone always go to the Grove Friday night for the underwear party?

There's an underwear party in the Pines, too. The Grove underwear party gets the plump, hairy set. I mean men.

People who prefer the Grove don't live in the Pines. Duh. Duh, Duh.

Zzz Zzz Zzz ... The fights are fucking lame in this show. If your aren't going to have anything reasonable to show for drama, and your cast's sexuality has no teeth - then this show is fucking bland as a sears catalogue.

Watched two episodes and they were highly forgettable. I don't know anyone's names and don't care to bother too.

Cheyenne looked better on the show than now

Agreed r376. I don't think losing the muscle mass and getting skinnier was an improvement at all.

I think he looks fine with less mass and I prefer the longer hair. I'm not fond of the smoked out voice/vocal fry, though.

His eyebrows need less attention. Why do these queens wax their eyebrows like that? He is a drag too.

[quote]Why do these queens wax their eyebrows like that?

It's part of the gay uniform. All those scenesterand wanna be sceneters have their perfectly plucked, waxed and arched eyebrows.

May Cheyenne is trying to copy Brad Pitt with the skinny look and plastic teeth.

I like the show precisely because it doesn't have all the fake drama that most reality shows have. The conflict here is so minor.

I just love watching the scenes of Fire Island and the activities there

Fuck that. R380 when I see those overly waxed brows that is a sign of a cheesy gay. No gay uniform. A nice brow is sexy as hell.

Sometimes it's difficult not give in to the "gay uniform" when you are surrounded by it everywhere, everyday.

Cheyenne is fugg now

So the trip they're on is fully paid for by the resort? How does it work? Anyone know?

I think they get a resort vacation in return for advertising it on their social media. This resort must be pretty low rent if it's relying on Logo and Instagram people with a few thousand followers for advertising.

Everyone from the Pines goes to the Grove Friday underwear party now. There used to be one in the Pines but after the venue burned down, nobody likes the new, rebuilt Pavillion

The House of Cheyenne has launched. We've got grim gray walls, a stick in the corner, what appears to be a mink throw, and a bizarre, atrocious rug.

The underwear party in the Grove

More Ice Palace underwear madness

Did he have work done on his face. Yuck

So what is Cheyenne doing exactly? Is he an interior decorator now? I don't get what this Maison Parker business is exactly. Wasn't he billed as a model/stylist on the show? I mean, not that any of that was true.

Is it another Repulveda situation? An interior decorator with no actual clientele?

I'll decorate your colon and your breakfast nook. Will Cheyenne?

Cheyenne's a brand guys! He is desperate to try anything that will make him relevant.

Definitely getting Repulveda vibes from Cheyenne and his brand

This is unwatchable. Each scene is ickier than the last.

Which episode is Robert Sepulveda in?

Cheyenne is definitely Repulveda 2.0. Smarmy and greasy.

The fat one is the creepiest.

Tonite's episode was dedicated to someone who recently passed? Anyone know who it was? That's the only thing that was remotely interesting about the ep which was dreadful. What a bunch of self centered cry babies.

I think the heavy guy's father died. I think I saw an Instagram post about it.

it's bad that RSJ is in this too

Jorge is so annoying with his neediness and grand emotional displays. I also hated how he tried to get in on Khasan's moment with his mother as they told their story to the group. He should have sat with the others. His jealousy of Khasan's bf is annoying and weird too

Patrick is obviously a producer plant trying to cause desperate drama for ratings.

Cheyenne is annoying too.

I only like Justin and Khasan.

Brandon is tolerable

Chris Salvatore is coming next week. Hopefully with minimal clothing

Cheyenne's personality is probably on par with most of the Instagram models slavishly followed by DLers.

Christ Salvatore, next week's guest hanging out with one of the Prince Charming contestants. He likes his reality show guys.

If Chris Salvatore is "Prince Charming" for Season 2 the ratings will go sky high!

Who the hell is Chris Salvatore?

No one really r410. As I said at r13, he is a minor actor who worked hard to some publicity for taking care of an elderly neighbor.

Jorge deeming Patrick and Jallen inappropriate? With his and Khasan's relationship?

Jallen is much more likeable than Brandon. And damn he looked good in that speedo.

Khasan looked great in that white shirt n shorts. But he has no sex appeal.

Jorge is easily the most anoying. And after his understandable breakdown over his loss, to suggest he and these strangers (minus Khasan) are family.... phony baloney.

Does every LA gay know each other? Is it all down to hook up culture?

Maybe I'm taking gangster tv/movie stuff as gospel, but a speedo wouldn't need explanation/disclaimer to an Italian, would it? Italians often have more of a European sensibility when it comes to male peacockery, right?

Jorge's father was shot to death in his own driveway?

I gotta admit that seeing Justin's parents and Khasan's mother having fun and being so open with the guys on Fire Island was nice. Things like that are warming to watch because so many gay guys don't have that level of support and acceptance from their parents. Also I was sad to see the notification at the end of the episode that Justin's Dad died this year. Look at me letting this show get me emotional.

Patrick is hosting the first underwear party of the season tonight in Cherry Grove. Send your pictures.

Hope he has better hair now

Cheyenne's nudes

Maybe that Birdcage cunt who posts with "dear" will shut up now that the nudes are out.

....really? Lol, well that cunt you are referring to is the one who posted his nudes. Dear.

So he's a huge slut...shocker!

Finally, a nice dick. Thanks, dear/cunt.

How long till all these guys are doing porn?...professionally.

[quote]Finally, a nice dick

Attached to a hungry bottom...

[Quote] Attached to a hungry bottom...

Fine by me. I like to see it flop around.

Id honestly fuck all these guys except for Patrick. Its like he's trying too hard.

Patrick is looking much better while promoting the show than he does actually on the show.

God bless Jorge but his youtube channel is inept. The mean comments video? I've seen ones with porn stars that had better delivery and material.

You weren't kidding r428. Fucking painful. And that laugh track really doesn't help

I guess Vh1 has decided to stop airing episodes after Rupaul. Must not have garnered an audience. Anyone know?

I don't know any numbers but as you said, it must not have garnered enough of an audience. If VH1 was happy with the ratings they would still be airing it.

Apparently Repulveda is in the next episode, hosting a party to raise money for HIV in Africa.

R430 I don't think they were planning on airing every episode, just a few to hopefully entice people to watch it on Logo. They did the same thing with Finding Prince Charming. Nashville, which airs on CMT, also did this on Nick-at-Nite. Some Bravo shows air on E!, though usually it's re-runs of a previous season to promote an upcoming one. It's cross-promotion on sister channels.

Will there be a meal at the party? Will RSJ serve parmesan?

Is he still with his Prince Charming?

Here are scenes from the first underwear party last week

As long as this stays firm, Cheyenne will have income

Cheyenne is like the D-list version of Colton Haynes.

Cheyenne is petite no?

Here's the latest from Maison Parker, Cheyenne's lifestyle venture. Am I wrong or is he selling beaded necklaces and bracelets here, like the kind you see high people making at a Grateful Dead show? Is this his signature item? How could that make money?

Nasty, low rent whores.

[quote]Am I wrong or is he selling beaded necklaces and bracelets here, like the kind you see high people making at a Grateful Dead show? Is this his signature item? How could that make money?

Don't speak that way about a luxury one of a kind Cheyenne©

Cheyenne lives with an old queen in the Hollywood hills whose got a colostomy bag, an oxygen tank and a lifetime membership at Costco.

Is there anyone watching this anymore?

When is Robert Repulveda gonna be in it?

You believed that?

Finally, it's getting good. Just as its ending.

Good is a very relative term in this case R447.

Chris is hot but what a crybaby

How bizarre that Patrick would pretend that his history with Jeffrey was actually his history with Chris. The former were together years and got the dog together. The latter were together months before Patrick left to find himself in the wilderness and to find drugs, it seems, on the East coast.

I guess Patrick and the producers, like the Prince Charming producers, view their shows as products for straight women. The gay world is so tiny that he couldn't have thought his lie would go unnoticed.

R450, if that's true and this Chris guy was in on the lie, I doubt that whole business with the old lady. Was that all fiction, too?

Cheyenne going down next week, pun intended

I get that they're playing versions of themselves but why not go all fiction? To paste the real life details of your most significant relationship onto a relationship that you exited almost as soon as it began? That's not merely tacky, it's hugely disrespectful. I guess Patrick is truly as thirsty and desperate as some have described him.

Doesn't his old boyfriend Jeffrey write the show reviews for EW?

Chris Salvatore's crying fit were an award-winning performance.

Patrick is scum. I would love to see a nice fist fight with Cheyenne giving him the black eye he deserves.

I doubt Cheyenne has a good right or left hook (his back dat ass up, on the other hand...). Khasan can probably throw down. Those nuns he lived with could be brutal, I bet.

The only likable cast members to me are Khasan and Justin. The youngest one (the slut) is OK. I really can't stand Patrick, Cheyenne or Jorge.

Jorge saying Khasan should move to NYC and forget his bf...pathetic and obnoxious. I wouldn't be able to date someone who had such a close friend like Jorge trying to get in the middle of everything all the time

I'm here for Cheyenne getting exposed since he seems so judgmental of Brandon and the sex he's having. At least Brandon is single.

Cheyenne and his BF are even more pathetic than Justin and his

Unless it ends in a murder/suicide I'll pass.

When Patrick has his crying jag, the "Chris" sounds totally dubbed in - he's speaking in a sobbing tone both before and after that name. Perhaps the producers decided that changing it to "Chris" would strengthen the narrative.

Either way, the dog/family story is lame because he hightailed it with the dog on both Jeffrey and Chris.

That dinner conversation reminded me of Nina and Tina's improv pilot. I'm guessing Patrick, Cheyenne and Chris (hilariously crying Chris) don't take classes at UCB or the Groundlings.

"Mercury's in retrograde too."

Why didn't they cast space cadet Chris in the first place?!

Seriously, why doesnt the black guy not have ANY other black friends? At least on the show?

It would be a great place for an Ebola outbreak, they could do a very special episode about it.

Relax, I'm sure Khasan has black friends but, remember, this is tv so only one black at a time. This ain't TVOne, hon.

Khasan was talking to a black guy at the community centre/retirement home gig of Patrick's. His only friend on the show is Jorge. It's not surprising that the housemates are white or white adjacent (Brandon). Doesn't Fire Island fall into the portfolio of rich white gaydom?

....Why are people so obsessed about Khasan having friends from the same race as him is a better question?

And please, I said this already but these aren't Khasan's "real friends". The only actual friend was Jorge, the rest of people are reality TV antics.

What is Brandon's ethnicity? last name?

R469, I totally agree with you that these aren't Khasan's real friends, save Jorge, but what I want to know is why did the production set it up that this was all Khasan's idea to invite a group of his friends out to Fire Island? I remember in the pilot that Khasan sat everyone down in a restaurant in NYC (except Patrick) and told them all about the house and would they like to come. Since it's clear as day that they aren't friends AT ALL, why the ruse? Wouldn't it be more interesting to pull a Real World and say, "6 gay strangers were invited to share a house and spend a summer (aka 6 weekends- attendance optional) together on Fire Island?"

All this stuff at the beginning of this last episode about this being the most amazing summer and how they'll remember it forever, blah, blah, blah is so EXTRA phony because we know this didn't even start until the summer was halfway over and they were only there for the weekend, when they bothered to show up. It's not like they weren't going about their private lives most of the time. If we want to be generous and count the weekend as 3 days, then these guess spent a mere 18 days total together. With all the absences it was really much less.

I wonder what the odds are of this getting a second season. I mean, Finding Prince Charming wasn't a ratings bonanza (or a cultural phenomenon) and it got a second season.

[quote]What is Brandon's ethnicity? last name?

Brandon Osorio, I assume he is from some sort of latino ancestry.

Don't the real housewives have to pretend to be friends? I guess TPTB feels it adds more drama and intrigue if the participants pretend to have history and veer from love/bonding to "I am going tp destroy you".

If Cheyenne has been fucking around on Fire Island, it's like Finding Prince Charming all over again, i.e. why aren't they filming the "good" stuff instead off sticking to an unconvincing narrative of X, Y, Z telling us how they're really bonding. Zzzzzzzzzz

Where's that asteroid strike when you really need it?!?!

I finally watched the latest episode. They are already on their last weekend? Was surprised by that, but then this show didn't even start filming til the last weekend of July.

Man Patrick knows how to play this game so way. Debuting his song to a national audience, trying to have a "vulnerable moment" afterwards. Inviting Chris Salvatore over since he knows he has a history with Cheyenne (while transposing details of his relationship with Jeffery onto Chris for added stakes) and then arrangeing it to explode into a dramatic screaming filled reality TV show dinner. That bitch played this episode like a fiddle.

[quote]Chris Salvatore's crying fit were an award-winning performance.

I honestly laughed when he started crying at the table. Justin gave a great talking head there "Who is this guy?" But bitch Chris knows how to milk that camera time for his guest appearance.

I will say this was actually the most fun episode. Add in some more sex and this is basically what I was expecting when I tuned into this mess.

[quote]If Cheyenne has been fucking around on Fire Island, it's like Finding Prince Charming all over again, i.e. why aren't they filming the "good" stuff instead off sticking to an unconvincing narrative of X, Y, Z telling us how they're really bonding. Zzzzzzzzzz

Yeah I was thinking that when it was made clear Cheyenne had been fucking around behind his boyfriend's back. Of course we as an audience have no idea. Based on what we have actually seen on screen it would seem like all these guys are fucking celibate.

I don't think grafting the Jeffrey details onto Chris was Patrick's idea. The story producer must have decided on it - that's why Patrick's tearless blubfest had Chris' name dubbed onto the audio recorded at the same time as the footage.

Exactly, R475. This show has too little fucking. I'd like to see Cheyenne hooking up instead of these lame fake fights.

How did Kelly Ripeget this show so wrong? She's been around enough gay men to know how to make an entertaining show out of a gay summer house in the Pines. It could write itself. Instead, they ended up with this disaster. It's worst crime is that it's just boring. The casting may have been what doomed it as well as starting filming halfway through the summer

R480 Filming starting so late probably did play a major part in why not a lot has happened on the show. With roughly seven weekends toward the end of the summer to film a show like this, that's just not enough time to get enough interesting footage. If it weren't for Patrick's studied reality tv pot-stirring, we likely wouldn't have had any dramatic tension on the show. I wonder why production started so late.

Are we really supposed to believe that Khasan and Jorge have never fucked???

Even if production had started Memorial Day weekend last year, the start of summer, I don't think that would have helped much with this show. They really needed entertaining people as housemates and a full house of eight guys like most shares out there.

One of them was out all this weekend in the Pines. Not much to tell about that.

The best actors on the show are the two dog; Brodie and Luna, at least their fights seem authentic.

Patrick's dog's name is Bhodie, not Brodie.

I'm thinking the boyfriends are fake too. They're never mentioned w hen theyre not in an episode

Patrick is all thin and muscular on the show but on Jorge's Youtube show, he's suddenly bulked up and not talking like a crazy queen. Was it all an act?

These are basically guys who are desperate to be famous (Patrick and Cheyenne) but will go nowhere in life.

Patrick is amazingly handsome when he has the right hair. Jorge has a great body but his freckles are distracting,

Yes, they are all strangers to each other as Cheyenne made it clear when he said something like, "You're not my friends; you're my housemates."

I guess the producers were hoping for lots of drama if you stuck strangers together. Instead we got this tepid series.

The lack of sex is appalling. Fire Island and all they do is squabble about cleaning up and who shouldn't be in the house. Their mouths should be full of cock at all times.

R489 is correct

I'm SURE they're mouths and stinkholes are constantly filled with cock. Logo just chooses not to show it.

Boo You Whores!!!

Meh. Boring ending

So is Robert Repulveda definitely in the next episode?

Yes, boring. All these men and no fucking?! I miss Queer as Folk, Noah's Arc, and The L Word and The Real L Word.. Yes, they were scripted (excl. TRLW, somewhat), but there was a lot of action! When is Showtime going to air another gay show?! LOGO is lame as hell.

Super lame. Staged confrontation. No one cares. Blah.

Wait. So Jorge ended up with Khasan? I didn't see it but my friend told me on the phone.

No his partner came

And Brandon was with Chris right?

They kissed

The lack of interest in this shit show is amazing. The premise alone should have brought in viewers. What went wrong? Did the producers lose interest when they saw how blah the cast turned out to be?

Patrick really is a disaster.

[quote]The premise alone should have brought in viewers

Really? What about this show's premise said break out hit?

Get your Cheyenne "tea" shirts. I guess you're supposed to wear them to tea. The shirts thus far are photoshopped

R502 - Gee, I don't know? Hot guys at a beach house where sex is everywhere. You wouldn't tune in to see that?

No mention of the show on Kelly Ripa's Instagram and she's the producer. That's never a good sign.

Will there be a reunion show?

so did Cheyenne blow that guy or not?

Can someone please explain why they are trying so desperately to make this has-been wannabe Betty Who happen? She's been trying to break through for the last 5 years and it's so obviously never gonna happen.

"I've learned what it means to be somewhat of a boyfriend".

Seven is such a strange episode count. First seasons of a show like this usually do 8-10 eps. Not that they had enough footage for even one more episode. There's no reunion for this right?

Yeah, I was wondering the same thing R510. Did they pull this train wreck off the air before it got into the station?

In this last episode we see Jorge kissing one of his "mistresses" via hidden camera. Um, where the hell were these cameras the rest of the season? Even in this episode we have Cheyenne hammering home Brandon's promiscuity and then Cheyenne himself is accused of whoring around on his boyfriend and there's no footage whatsoever. I don't understand that. Now that I know that they had cameras around to catch these things, what gives?

Yep r512, Brian starts off his recap with a little rant about that

[quote]Just think about all of the revelations in the final episode. We found out that Cheyenne spent the night with and possibly slept with Patrick’s friend Alex while he had a boyfriend, that Fabio has hooked up with at least three “mistresses” over the course of the summer, that Brandon routinely comes home before Cheyenne and brings dudes home with him, and that Cheyenne is routinely out partying until 9 or 10 a.m. Where is the footage of all of this? I know there are only seven episodes, but why is the camera crew not getting any of this partying, hooking up, and misbehaving? We didn’t even know that this guy named Alex was even visiting Patrick, except for one appearance on the beach where they didn’t explain who he was or why he was there (but sure did show off how incredibly fine he is). And it’s not like there is so much footage of these dudes going to the beach or pool parties during the day. What was the camera crew filming? Just them at meals in the house? I know it’s not easy to make a reality show, but we expect more! I wanted this to be a show about six dudes partying, hooking up, having fun, meeting boys, generally misbehaving, and occasionally fighting while living in a house together. Apparently all of those things happened, but we didn’t see them.

[quote]so did Cheyenne blow that guy or not?

Cheyenne invited over this guy who he was very attracted to and they spent hours and hours in his bedroom behind a locked door but totally nothing happened! You all totally buy that right?

I mean I think neutral-party Brandon's talking head was very clear, it was like please bitch, I'm your roommate, I know you've hooked up with other guys.

I will say I liked that moment between Jorge and his boyfriend. They meet up and ask about other guys, are honest with each other, and then move on. An important depiction of non-monogamous relationships for the audience.

[quote]Are we really supposed to believe that Khasan and Jorge have never fucked???

Honestly my read of their situation is that Khasan would totally be down, while Jorge just loves using Khasan as his support system.

It was really terribly produced. It was like the producers had no clear idea what they wanted the show to be.

Jeffery says he liked it and hopes for a season two.

[quote]I’ve really enjoyed this show and writing these recaps. It was a strange experience for the obvious reasons, but entertaining and oddly cathartic at the same time. As with everything, there have been many negative things said about Fire Island and these recaps have included a bounty of sassy comments and disses, but at the end of the day, I think this show was a lot of fun. Sure, it might not depict the gay person you are, or that I am, or that your son is or friend is or whatever. But it depicted six different gay people living an open and mostly happy life. Even if you don’t mesh with this show, that is something we need to see more of. In all different mediums, tones, genres, and forms. If gay people on television are going to be equal, we need our guilty-pleasure reality filth just as much as we need the intellectual and enlightening stuff. So, for that, I say, good job to all involved and God, I hope there’s a season two.

I was just going through social media and Chris Salvatore is apparently not happy

[quote]Reality show editing is the best! I wasn't crying about Cheyenne being a dick. The boys were asking me about my very recent breakup.

[quote]I am honestly done explaining having an emotional response to life. If crying bothers you or you think it's "gross" that is your own issue!

Chris Salvatore needs to be a regular on season 2. Jeffrey Self also needs to guest star. I believe Patrick went right to Chris when he walked out on Jeffrey.

I'd like to see more of Austin than Justin. Ditto Jaylen Brandon. I don't think Justin, Khasan, Jorge and Brandon aren needed should the show return.

If Cheyenne returns, he and Patrick should be in separate house shares. They could have the occasonal showdown but not a repeat of Season 1.

I wonder if Jeffrey's other gay comedian friends would do the show. Most are quite good looking and more importantly have an improv background.

Khasan was a big blank to me. Never mentioned his BF Jason unless he was there. Justin was like the Mom - pass.

Cheynne's voice makes my dick hard.

Who died in the final episode?...They all live?...Damn!!!

Yep makes you wish Prince charming would return

Repulveda blocked me and everyone I know on Instagram.

r516 Jeffrey is such a hypocrite - he trashed every episode but suddenly thinks it is a good show now. Please - he just wants more work and gets off on his semi-celebrity because of that talentless whore Patrick.

Some ideas for next season. Mark Consuelos moves in without Kelly. Patrick comes back with a better haircut and drops the sassy queen but. Cheyenne gets his own house next door and hand picks his roommates. Justin does Jenny Craig. One of the housemates is a drug dealer. Lance Bass is on for just an episode or two and then they kick him out. The Situation, Pauly D and Angelique from Jersey Shore move in.

More hot guys making out, having sex, being naked etc. We old.

Jeff never went hard on the show, or Finding Prince Charming before it. He just uses it as a jumping off point for snark.

Jeffrey is the worst thing to come out of this mess.

R529 = Brian

How did this do in the ratings? I noticed VH1 stopped airing it after Drag Race on Fridays a few weeks ago so it I'm assuming they were abysmal.

I like it, R526, I like it !

the fuckk???

I mean...jeeesusss

The cast was a bore. Next season needs to be a completely new group

What next season? No one was filming Memorial Day weekend.

The first season didn't start filming til the last weekend of July so there is still time.

The cast hasn't said whether or not there will be a season 2 yet, so I am guessing LOGO is still deciding?

The fact that they waiting two thirds of the way into the summer was one of the biggest problems. There was no time for any stories to develop.

I hope there is a second season of "Fire Island"; and that Christ Salvatore is in it.

Jesus Christ Salvatore?

The "Boys of OUTspoken" on YT aired out Chris Salvatore on their finale recap. A funny tidbit concerned Chris bitching out an audience who were not feeling his music at an Open Mic in West Hollywood.

They should a WeHo "Fire Island" - just change the title. We don't need the "getaway" aspect as a central premise. Just some messy queens, preferably ones with a modicum of wit.

[quote]We don't need the "getaway" aspect as a central premise. Just some messy queens, preferably ones with a modicum of wit.

R541, just watch us!

When will the new season of Finding Prince Charming air? I thought it was due in spring?

They were having a lot trouble casting season 2 of finding prince charming (shocker after Robert), I don't know if they ever filmed it or not.

Logo is still running promo for Season 2

I was shocked at how uninteresting a place Fire Island came across on the show. It looks kinda boring. No wonder the show flopped.

I suspect the lack of presence/character re the island was more down to venue filming permission refusals. Where the fuck was that singing gig of Patrick's?

I think Fire Island came across as a gorgeous paradise.

I still pray for a season 2 of "Fire Island."

"Finding Prince Charming" season 2 still hasn't happened even though they announced they were going to do one.

"venue filming permission refusals"

I'm pretty sure none exist there. His concert was at the Pavilion, the main bar that no one goes to.

Michael Lucas has never turned off his camera there.

They should film it at the Belvedere! It's so . . . gay!

So it is mid-July and still no word on a season 2? Looks like they are quietly canceling this.

Mercy killing

It had like 10 viewers.

How does Logo even turn a profit? It has no viewers. This show was not even ranked in the top 150 on cable during the night it aired.

They need to get rid of some old retreads

Finally watching this in my dvr and these guys are insufferable, with lots of contrived "drama" and it's like an SNL skit...

The show is so dull but the threads and recaps make me laugh