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I Don't Understand The Locker Room Fuss

From the CNN Chris Cuomo thread:

Trans people have gender dysphoria and do not like their birth bodies. So the end result is...show your naked birth body, which you're repulsed by, to people who have the body you want? If you're self-conscious about your body, why would you put yourself in a situation where people can see it?

by Anonymousreply 37November 20, 2018 10:41 PM

forced affirmation, idiot. plus general anti-social acting out.

by Anonymousreply 1February 23, 2017 11:53 PM

Narcissism

by Anonymousreply 2February 24, 2017 1:56 AM

Watch "Candace" talk about this locker room fuss!

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by Anonymousreply 3February 24, 2017 2:36 AM

"Reasonable accommodation", R3? How dare they?

by Anonymousreply 4February 24, 2017 2:41 AM

Oh look, another anti-trans thread.

by Anonymousreply 5February 24, 2017 2:46 AM

Well, someone's gotta get to the bottom of this madness, R5.

by Anonymousreply 6February 24, 2017 2:54 AM

I don't get it. How would anyone even have known that Candace is a man? Trans women have been using the bathroom for years and women have never noticed before...

by Anonymousreply 7February 24, 2017 2:57 AM

I don't understand why this ever became an issue, R7. If someone can pass, they'll use the bathroom that they want and no one will notice.

If someone is just a cross dressing freak, yeah, I can see that being a problem.

by Anonymousreply 8February 24, 2017 3:01 AM

Required viewing:

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by Anonymousreply 9February 24, 2017 3:03 AM

But now laws have been put into place making it irrelevant whether one can reasonably pass, R8. The laws came about to address the growing population of trans women that don't pass.

by Anonymousreply 10February 24, 2017 3:17 AM

Why didn't you just ask in the thread this was posted in?

by Anonymousreply 11February 24, 2017 3:32 AM

If you don't understand, google the term "gender euphoria" in addition to "gender dysphoria".

Or "autogynophilia".

by Anonymousreply 12February 24, 2017 5:34 AM

You're a few years behind. According to current groupthink, associating trans people with gender dysphoria is transphobic. People - including trans people - who insist that gender dysphoria is a requirement of being trans are referred to as 'truscum'.

by Anonymousreply 13February 24, 2017 5:46 AM

Can you imagine the faces of some of these defenders of the rights of the cross-dressers to enter women's locker rooms/bathrooms if, say, they were waiting outside said locker room/bathroom for their 14 year old daughter and they saw a six foot two, 250 pound, bearded guy open the door and walk right in?

by Anonymousreply 14February 24, 2017 5:48 AM

I must really be behind. If trans people aren't experiencing gender dysphoria...then what ARE they experiencing?

by Anonymousreply 15February 24, 2017 5:48 AM

This small man has been swimming at my local pool for a couple of years. He has broad hips and the sort of nipple placement that causes his furry little chest to look cross-eyed.

When he was in the showers last year I noticed that he lacked a penis when he turned around to wash the soap off his back but when he saw someone else there he turned back toward the wall. Otherwise he always protects his modesty with his hand or a towel. I guess he was born a she but I don't know for certain.

Perhaps he has a genuine micropenis and not a DL seven inch micropenis. Very hairy crotch and belly.

Would the lack of a penis on this otherwise hairy muscled human inflame the desires of a straight guy? Is this guy exposing himself to a potential rape situation?

I really don't care that he's there but the opposite situation would upset me i.e. a penis in the women's room.

by Anonymousreply 16February 24, 2017 5:51 AM

I just wonder what's going to happen to all these kids who are being raised trans. I'll guess they'll pair off with each other.

by Anonymousreply 17February 24, 2017 5:59 AM

As a woman, the penis is the issue. It can be a weapon and every single woman in the world knows that inherently. Quite honestly, R16, I'd rather have the muscle-bound hairy dude who was born a woman in the women's locker room than even the most feminine MtT if it still had a penis attached to it.

Every single issue about this bathroom/locker room thing would go completely away if the rule or law became all penii go to the mens' room and anyone sans penis, whether you originally had one or not, is welcome in the womens' room. If a person is so sure that they were born in the wrong body then chop it off. You're still not a woman but we'll let you use our bathroom.

by Anonymousreply 18February 24, 2017 6:04 AM

Gurl, my hands are tired!

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by Anonymousreply 19February 24, 2017 6:08 AM

R15 here again. Seriously, what do trans people think is going on with them? How do they know that they're supposed to be the opposite sex? They don't acknowledge that this is a mental issue? A dysphoria? How do they explain it?

by Anonymousreply 20February 24, 2017 6:10 AM

I saw a link someone posted, I think it may have been on the banned thread about Trump rescinding the bathroom bill, where a bunch of trans were backslapping each other over their specialness and how trannydom is akin to Klinefelter Syndrome and they should be given special treatment in every area of life.

If that's true then it's physically diagnosable and everyone wanting to stroke his erect shenis front of the seventh grade swim team in the girls locker room should be able to produce a medical exemption certificate proving it. We have MRI scanners, we have the ability to identify chromosomal disorders, what are you waiting for fellas?

by Anonymousreply 21February 24, 2017 6:24 AM

I think the non-gender dysphoric trans are the modern day equivalent of the lesbians-til-graduation. It's attention seeking mixed in with a bit of rebellion. They'll all be GOP voters in 15 years.

by Anonymousreply 22February 24, 2017 10:01 AM

No r22, the lesbians til graduation aren't sexual predators demanding other people give up their right to safety and privacy. Big difference.

by Anonymousreply 23February 24, 2017 12:07 PM

They don't want each other, R17. Not validating enough?

by Anonymousreply 24February 24, 2017 12:50 PM

No R7 It isn't that women didn't notice. Very few transwomen pass, women, especially in public restrooms, are observant to the point of being almost hyper-vigilant, for their own safety but are also socialised to be polite and to be considerate of others who seem vulnerable. Women have always turned a blind eye, as a ccourtesy, to allow transsexual males into female restrooms. What's different now is that self declaration laws let in any male and if confronted, all he has to do is *say* he "identifies as a woman". Women were mostly ok with the transsexuals who were doing their best to fit in. They're not ok with heterosexual men with a sissy porn fetish, trans trenders and voyeurs.

by Anonymousreply 25February 24, 2017 1:13 PM

But I'm a LADY!

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by Anonymousreply 26February 24, 2017 1:17 PM

What was the trans community hoping to accomplish with this crazy strategy of co-opting female spaces?

As R25 points out, women already have the burden of having to be hypervigilant in public spaces. Now women have to think even more about what type of facilities will be available to them when they are out in public and whether they should use them at all.

That's why I don't see how this is going to help the trans community in the long run. It's not going to lead to greater trans acceptance it's just going to serve as a source of ongoing resentment.

by Anonymousreply 27February 24, 2017 1:34 PM

R27 - summary - why are they sabotaging their own lives and disrespecting or being oblivious to others? Answer - well, that is their raison d'être. That is their mental illness. A life of self-sabotage. Couple years after a full transition, many M2F are desperately unhappy. I suppose that could change with more respect from us and more civil rights for themselves, but the M.O. is so often about self-destruction.

by Anonymousreply 28February 24, 2017 1:38 PM

I wonder if trans people - because most of them don't pass - wouldn't fare better if they embraced trans as being a third gender deserving of its own space.

It's hard to increase the number of allies when you're invading their spaces and co-opting their identities as male and female.

by Anonymousreply 29February 24, 2017 1:50 PM

They are a chaos agent for globalists. T movement funded by US Army, drone manufacturers, S@r@s.

They are conditioned to behave this way by social media aimed at T and by formerly LGB orgs.

None of this is in their interests as individuals, sadly. The rate of suicide goes up after the magic of transitioning as the reality of loneliness, lack of employment and physical issues sets in.

They have ushered in Orwellian language quite swiftly though, huh?

by Anonymousreply 30February 24, 2017 1:52 PM

Third gender? Uh no. There are two genders. Male and female. That's it. Take your pick.

Want the "trans" problem to disappear? Stop socially engineering males and females. Et voila! *Poof*! Gone.

by Anonymousreply 31February 24, 2017 1:52 PM

Radical summary: Most have narcissism.

Methods: Seventy- three patients requesting sex reassignment surgery (SRS) were recruited for this crosssectional study. Of the participants, 57.5% were biologically male and 42.5% were biologically female. They were assessed through the Millon Clinical Multiaxial Inventory II (MCMI- II).

Results: The frequency of personality disorders was 81.4%. The most frequent personality disorder was narcissistic personality disorder (57.1%) and the least was borderline personality disorder. The average number of diagnoses was 3.00 per patient.

Conclusion: The findings of this study revealed that the prevalence of personality disorders was higher among the participants, and the most frequent personality disorder was narcissistic personality disorder (57.1%), and borderline personality disorder was less common among the studied patients.

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by Anonymousreply 32February 24, 2017 1:53 PM

What about the transgender population in India? Do they use female facilities? India seems to have a large trans community.

by Anonymousreply 33February 24, 2017 1:55 PM

Public defecation isn't gendered.

by Anonymousreply 34February 24, 2017 1:59 PM

R32's study is from Iran. I wouldn't necessarily take it as gospel.

"In this paper, we assessed the frequency of personality disorders in Iranian GID patients."

What's next, a study of mental illness among gay men from Russia?

by Anonymousreply 35February 24, 2017 2:01 PM

R35 Ya got me! I tried to pull a fast one.

by Anonymousreply 36February 24, 2017 2:05 PM

Update.

Headline: Boyertown students ask U.S. Supreme Court to hear appeal of transgender bathroom challenge

Students who lost their appeal in a challenge of Boyertown Area High School’s policy that allows transgender students to use the bathrooms and locker rooms matching their gender identity have asked the U.S. Supreme Court to hear their case.

Alliance Defending Freedom, the conservative group that argued the case on behalf of the students filing the challenge, said Monday it has filed a petition in the Supreme Court asking it to review a ruling in May upholding the policy.

The anonymous group of Boyertown students claimed the bathroom policy violated their fundamental right to bodily privacy and deprived them access to facilities in violation of the federal law against sex discrimination in schools...

Schools should not expect students to accept that the differences between females and males don’t matter in the very places set apart for privacy from the opposite sex,” said Randall Wenger, chief counsel with the Independence Law Center, a nonprofit legal organization whose attorneys also worked on the case...

The Supreme Court agrees to hear fewer than 1 percent of the cases that come before it. It typically takes about six weeks to make a decision whether to hear an appeal...

The Third Circuit issued its decision May 24 in an unusual ruling from the bench, citing a desire to issue its decision before some of the students involved graduated the following month. It followed up with a written opinion, and in July denied a request to reconsider its decision.

In refusing to suspend the policy, the Third Circuit upheld the decision of U.S. District Judge Edward G. Smith, who refused to issue an injunction suspending the policy last year. Smith made the decision after three days of hearings where students testified about being embarrassed by sharing bathrooms and locker rooms with transgender classmates. One testified that the policy affected him academically because he lost points for not changing clothes before gym class.

Although the students testified anonymously, one has decided to move forward following her graduation by using her true name, Alexis Lightcap.

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by Anonymousreply 37November 20, 2018 10:41 PM
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