French Pres Candidate Emmanuel Macron Says There is No Such Thing as French Culture

How is it gay news or gay interest????

1. The French Election is important and being discussed on DL.; 2. His comment is meant to appeal to anti-gay bloc.

This is EXACTLY was is driving voters to political parties that better serve their interests and sensibilities. It's just like London's Labour Mayor Khan stating that 'Terror Attacks ‘Part And Parcel Of Life In A Big City’, a real what the fuck attempt at redefinition.

^^^ what is, not was^^^

R2 I don't see how this appeal to the anti-gay. On the contrary the anti-gay believes in a Grand French Culture, Macron says french culture is diverse. So, it doesn't make sense.

Is the correct translation that there is no ONE French culture or that there is no French culture, period?

True, otherwise it would be "Il n'y a pas de culture française", not "il n'y a pas une culture française".

R6 Both arrive at the same conclusion. That Louis Catorze, Versaille, Balzac, Zola, de Maupassant, Matisse, Monet, Manet etc. etc. etc. are exclusive, no longer appropriate and must be dismissed so as not to offend or exclude other cultures.

R8 WTF?????? No one says they must be dismissed.

They're a huge part of french culture but french culture doesn't stop with them.

Why DL has become the Front national play ground?

[quote]a real what the fuck attempt at redefinition.

That is what it is, it's brainwashing. They want you forget culture, the history of that culture, how that culture informs a nation, national sovereignty, culture and the arts.

Trudeau said something similar: "There is no core identity, no mainstream in Canada,” Trudeau said, concluding that he sees Canada as “the first post-national state.”

It is traitorous and should be recognized as such. And here is a picture he put on his mother's day tweet (it's his mother and his wife) - seems to be recognizing an identity there...

French culture, though, would by definition perforce include people who speak French. Who embrace French traditions (by which I don't mean religion, as even the native French have abandoned that), French ways of education, celebrations, cultural history.

France has been influenced not only by the Enlightenment but also by its years of colonization; thus, France is already a diversified society (mmmmm....couscous!).

But France is right to push back at those who wish to dominate, impose, change, and destroy what is.

[quote]I don't see how this appeal to the anti-gay. On the contrary the anti-gay believes in a Grand French Culture, Macron says french culture is diverse. So, it doesn't make sense.

There may be some conservatives who believe in French culture, but there is are anti-gay power blocs that are being catered to with the no French culture remark - the globalists who want to destroy national sovereignty, and Islamists who want to promote Islam above everything else and have no interest in French or Western culture.

"Globalists" are not anti-gay or anti french culture.

Those who are anti-gay are the right wing, the FN and the religious ones (christians, jewish and muslims).

Those are people who don't vote Macron anyway.

Why is Russia wasting time posting on this site?

[quote]and the religious ones (christians, jewish and muslims). Those are people who don't vote Macron anyway.

Uh, no. In England, France, Germany, Belgium, Muslims typically vote "Left" because it promotes the Muslim agenda. Macron has aptly illustrated that in his statement.

There IS a French culture and I LOVE it. French cinema is world famous.

Soon French culture will only consist of Tchaikowsky, Tolstoy and moi-mëme as shirtless heartthrob!

R15 Wrong not since the gay marriage law. Studies show that muslim believers don't vote for the left wing anymore. Look at Kepel work about it.

Muslims are more likely not going to vote, than to vote for the left.

Après avoir dit tout cela pourquoi ne suis-je pas 50 points d'avance que vous pourriez demander?

Maybe the French will prove more receptive to launching my movie career and I won't have to sic wikileaks on them, like I was forced to do with the recalcitrant Sony nekulturny rabble.

R19 Please don't use google translation, it doesn't mean anything.

Trudeau and Macron do not mean the same thing. Macron means France is a diverse land of many cultures, which isn't strictly true as France was the first modern nation-state that really went in for cultural standardization at the center. In olden times, this would have been seen as essentially a populist, anti-Paris statement. The fact that it is being treated as though it were an endorsement of Muslim culture shows how inside-out things are in France right now.

Trudeau meant Canadians never saw themselves as Canadians, but as Quebecois, Acadians, British, etc. But Canada has been trying to impose a national identity through education for a couple generations now, and by default of something stronger it has become attached in the popular mind to "We're not like the USA." Since the USA is very obnoxious about its nationalism, this paradoxically means that to be a nationalist populist Canadian one has to insist one is not a nationalist! Odds bodkins! But it is not as artificial a statement as Macron's because the ambitious in Canada were never really convinced of Canadian difference as the French were. Yet in truth everyone from across the pond sees immediately that Canadians are North American to the core, but for some reason they won't admit to it, and everyone south of the border sees them as Uncle Fuckers!

R18 93 Percent Of French Muslims Voted For Hollande (from Business Insider International 2012)

True but it was before the gay marriage law.

You see it was part of the myth of Empire, and why British allowed half of Jamaica to come to their isle. The myth of the French empire was that having ruled it since 1830 Algeria was an integral part of France. So when they had to get out, the door was left open not just for the whites (who by then were mostly Spanish and Italian since French people never had a burning desire to live in Africa) but for blacks also even though the French administration of Algeria had been profoundly racist.

But, r24, same-sex marriage was in Hollande's manifesto, so Muslims would have known he was going to pass it.

In any case, it,was the monoculture French Catholics who most fervently campaigned against same-sex marriage.

Muslim-hater Le Pen has now apparently said she will abolish same-sex marriage.

Muslims will vote for Le Pen and Fillon because they are both against same-sex marriage.

They didn't vote for him for the gay marriage, at the time people barely spoke or debated about it.

what an idiot!!!

[quote]"Globalists" are not anti-gay or anti french culture. Those who are anti-gay are the right wing, the FN and the religious ones (christians, jewish and muslims).

The Globalists are promoting the Muslim religion and culture. They want to destroy French culture, and France's history and sovereignty. The Muslim culture is anti-gay. The Globalists are anti-gay because they cater to Islam.

R14, Hillary wasn't a good candidate.

93% Of French Muslims Voted For Hollande

93 % of French Muslims voted for the Socialist Party's Francois Hollande in the second round of the French election, La Vie reports.

R30 For Fuck sake no one is promoting muslim culture against french culture.

No one wants to replace french culture by muslim culture, whatever that means.

Get you head out of your ass.

But R33 your globalist friends say there's no such thing as French culture

They say that french culture is diverse, not that french culture doesn't exist or that the great french authors, painters and musicians are not hugely important. They just say that french culture was and still is influenced by other cultures.

How weak and insecure you must be to believe someone can erase more than 2000 years of culture and history?

There's a new Muslim Party, too

Macron means there's no such thing as what we see depicted in "Amelie": the cliches of accordions, berets, gamines on bicycles, that kind of shit.

Another graduate from the school of Rothschilds

My, my, you're desperate R36 . Citing a 2 years old article about a political party which died since;

Well, they can vote for Macron and the Socialists, it's the same thing. They don't need another party.

Pompidou was also working for the Rotschild bank and no one said he betrayed France.

The worst thing about Pompidou was his shitty taste in art, and it was mostly his wife's taste.

Every culture is influenced by other cultures. Duh! But his play with words is specious. And Macron wasn't just talking about French clichés.

This is just stupid globalist nonsense. Playing with words.

R33 has obviously had his head up HIS ass and completely missed France's on-going war with Muslims who demand their culture, values and sensibilities prevail over local values.

Tout le monde s'étonne, et pourtant Emmanuel Macron ne fait qu'exprimer les idées dans lesquelles souhaitent nous noyer les élites déracinées, celles qui ne supportent pas les Nations parce qu'elles n'en ont guère.

R43 Whatever..... have you even put one foot in France in your life???? Or are you just repeating breitbart and foxnews infos?

R45 Been there more times and far longer than you have, head up your ass.

What about this Muslim party, does it still exist? France’s Turkish-Muslim Equality and Justice Party (PEJ) ?

R46 I'm french dumbass.

Requiem

R47 If it still exists it's so small that it doesn't appear on polls.

The Parti Egalite Justice (the people's party) went tits up and is no longer listed among French political parties.

Idiot. There absolutely is one. I don't care what ethnicity, race or religion someone is. People should be allowed to practice their religions in their home/places of worship and we should respect each others beliefs, but the state has its policies and culture and if you can't respect that fact, get out.

R48 of course you are, head up your ass. And I'm la reine de belges.

The ultimate goal of globalization and neoliberalism.

How French of him

R53 La reine des Belges, abruti.

La reine des beignes

La reine des beignes rules mainly on the plains.

[2012] Paris's famed Louvre museum on Saturday opened to the public a new wing of Islamic art. Costing nearly 100 million euros ($131 million), it is funded by the French government and supported by handsome endowments from Saudi Arabia, Morocco, Kuwait, Oman and Azerbaijan.

R59 What is Islamic art? Such a regressive culture can't allow for much creativity.

[quote]Islamic art

Hahaha! that's a good one!

R60 Careful your stupidity is showing.....

Say what you want about today's Islam but it gave us a lot of masterpieces.

that's the least impressive collection of art I've ever seen

R62 Was that sarcasm? I'd take western art over it any day.

Excellent book about Muslim art and Islam's attitude toward art: Orhan Pamuk's My Name is Red.

R65 People here will tell you that Pamuk is a shit author and can't write good books cause he's turkish.

...funded by the French government and supported by handsome endowments from Saudi Arabia, Morocco, Kuwait, Oman and Azerbaijan.

R67 They've been funding universities all over the world too.

Yes, and the dolts repeat what they want.

Tiles.