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Why'd everybody turn down Norma Rae?

I read Diane Keaton, Jane Fonda, Marsha Mason, and Jill Clayburg all turned it down. (and then Sally Field beat them all for the Oscar)

Did the script not look good for some reason? I can see Fonda having other options but the other three should have jumped at it.

by Anonymousreply 91April 22, 2019 6:12 PM

Add Louise Lasser to that list.

by Anonymousreply 1December 2, 2016 5:18 AM

really r1? that seems like an odd choice. I'd think Sally would have been higher on the list than Lasser.

by Anonymousreply 2December 2, 2016 5:22 AM

I think Marsha Mason declined because her husband-at-the- time, Neil Simon, didn't want her going away on location for it.

by Anonymousreply 3December 2, 2016 5:27 AM

Tuesday Weld was actually one of the first actresses who was offered that role.

by Anonymousreply 4December 2, 2016 5:35 AM

I can see that r4. Tuesday was on a roll after Goodbar and Who'll Stop the Rain. She should have taken it.

by Anonymousreply 5December 2, 2016 5:37 AM

[quote]Sally would have been higher on the list than Lasser.

Lasser is an excellent actress and funny to boot. I know it's not a comedy but she's hysterical and a scene stealer.

by Anonymousreply 6December 2, 2016 5:40 AM

Horrible film.

by Anonymousreply 7December 2, 2016 5:40 AM

I think it would've been better with Karen Carpenter

by Anonymousreply 8December 2, 2016 5:40 AM

it was a factory strike not a hunger strike r8

by Anonymousreply 9December 2, 2016 5:47 AM

Helen Reddy was also considered for the role.

by Anonymousreply 10December 2, 2016 5:51 AM

jessica chastain

by Anonymousreply 11December 2, 2016 9:29 AM

Faye Dunaway turned it down too.

by Anonymousreply 12December 2, 2016 9:41 AM

Marni Nixon was offered the role of Norma Rae's voice but turned it down.

by Anonymousreply 13December 2, 2016 10:11 AM

It should have been moi. I understand the common people.

by Anonymousreply 14December 2, 2016 11:15 AM

Charlotte Rae turned it down due to scheduling conflicts with her TV series.

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by Anonymousreply 15December 2, 2016 11:30 AM

[quote]Jill Clayburg

Oh, dear.

by Anonymousreply 16December 2, 2016 11:59 AM

At the time, Sally Field was known as a tv actress, and a comedy actress mostly. She had done Sybil three years ago, but producers were doubtful that she could carry a big screen drama. Sally was known as "Gidget" "Flying Nun" "Girl With Something Extra" and Burt Reynolds comic sidekick. So I'm sure that there were many meetings about whether they should go forward with Field or another actress.

Louise Lasser had a well known drug problem. Even if she was seriously considered, she probably wouldn't have been insurable. Plus she was also known more as a comic actress.

Diane Keaton, at the time, was in her Woody Allen "muse" phase. She probably thought that was more interesting work.

I imagine that Jane Fonda was already busy. She banged out "Coming Home" "Comes A Horseman" and "California Suite" in that time period.

by Anonymousreply 17December 2, 2016 1:09 PM

Hey, they offered it to me, too, but I was busy making a movie in South Korea!

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by Anonymousreply 18December 2, 2016 1:48 PM

[quote] I can see that [R4]. Tuesday was on a roll after Goodbar and Who'll Stop the Rain. She should have taken it.

King Kong wouldn't let her do it.

*kisses doll*

by Anonymousreply 19December 2, 2016 2:00 PM

I read the script, what a stinkeroo!

by Anonymousreply 20December 2, 2016 2:21 PM

Well, I saw no meat in the role, so I chose The Fan, instead.

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by Anonymousreply 21December 2, 2016 2:25 PM

Because Norma Rae only had a budget of $4.5 million, director Martin Ritt had a tough time getting big name actresses like Jane Fonda, Faye Dunaway, Diane Keaton, and Jill Clayburgh on board to work for less than their usual price. Sally was at a transition in her career, was hired on the cheap, and became an Oscar-winning movie star.

by Anonymousreply 22December 2, 2016 2:31 PM

Lucille Ball was all set to sign but Gary Morton talked her out of it.

Besides, she wanted the factory changed from making garments to chocolates and a scene added where they increased the speed of the assembly line for comic relief.

by Anonymousreply 23December 2, 2016 2:55 PM

Lucille Ball wanted Viv Vance to play Norma's sassy best friend and she wanted a scene where she and Viv sang "Bosom Buddies" but Jerry Herman wouldn't license the song for the movie.

by Anonymousreply 24December 2, 2016 3:22 PM

I passed.

by Anonymousreply 25December 2, 2016 3:35 PM

I had scheduling conflicts.

by Anonymousreply 26December 2, 2016 3:35 PM

Corporations make movies. Corporations don't like anti-corporate movies.

by Anonymousreply 27December 2, 2016 3:59 PM

I died.

by Anonymousreply 28December 2, 2016 4:02 PM

I wanted a couple of song and dance routines......never heard back.

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by Anonymousreply 29December 2, 2016 4:16 PM

R29 You should've offered to show your tits, Julie.

by Anonymousreply 30December 2, 2016 4:31 PM

WE were tired of seeing them by then, R30.

by Anonymousreply 31December 2, 2016 4:40 PM

[quote]WE were tired of seeing them by then

I wasn't.

by Anonymousreply 32December 2, 2016 4:44 PM

Why did the main character stand up on the table in the cafeteria with a big sign that said onions? Was it the onions that made her eyes water?

by Anonymousreply 33December 2, 2016 4:44 PM

My offer to look at the script required a gift from Tiffany's. And mink coat. Turned it down as they were too poor and couldn't meet my $20 million up front sign up fee. Excluding my artistic fee.

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by Anonymousreply 34December 2, 2016 8:56 PM

[quote]Diane Keaton, at the time, was in her Woody Allen "muse" phase. She probably thought that was more interesting work.

Keaton said in one of her books that after the Oscar for Annie Hall she became fearful of taking movies on her own and stayed in the ensemble of Woody Allen films even though she had so many offers because it felt safer to be in the Allen films.

by Anonymousreply 35December 3, 2016 1:02 AM

[quote]Why'd everybody turn down Norma Rae?

She hit on a lot of guys, but none of them were into that scarf and T-shirt look.

by Anonymousreply 36December 3, 2016 1:09 AM

Because it's a preachy, overrated bore, and only the sanctimonious Sally Field could do it justice.

by Anonymousreply 37December 3, 2016 3:08 AM

She was the only one who fit the costumes, little known fact.

by Anonymousreply 38December 3, 2016 3:18 AM

IT WAS RIGGED!!! I WAS ROBBED!!!

by Anonymousreply 39December 3, 2016 3:23 AM

They said my accent was too thick. I'll show them though my dahlings. I'll outlive that Flying little Nun

by Anonymousreply 40December 3, 2016 3:23 AM

The factory setting was....so...depressing.

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by Anonymousreply 41December 3, 2016 3:34 AM

Peggy Lipton was actually the first choice

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by Anonymousreply 42December 3, 2016 3:46 AM

We should be thankful that Ron Liebman didn't come with his wife of-the-time as a double-act.

by Anonymousreply 43December 3, 2016 4:09 AM

Others who were up for the role:

• Glenda Jackson

• Vanessa Redgrave

• Maggie Smith

by Anonymousreply 44December 3, 2016 4:28 AM

Don't forget Divine.

by Anonymousreply 45December 3, 2016 4:30 AM

Glenda Jackson was up for the Beau Bridges part.

by Anonymousreply 46December 3, 2016 4:40 AM

R37 made me think of this at the link.

Burt Reynolds was so fucking cute and so fucking hot! He's a bit before my time so I never got him before seeing this.

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by Anonymousreply 47December 3, 2016 4:48 AM

Actually, thinking about Norma's little speech now gives me chills. You gotta give it to Sally. That broad could emote like no one else.

by Anonymousreply 48December 3, 2016 4:48 AM

Did schedule conflicts prevent Linda Lavin from getting the role?

by Anonymousreply 49December 3, 2016 4:49 AM

No. Linda wanted to sing the theme song It Goes Like it Goes. The producers thought it required one of the most subtlest, heartbreaking performances ever and they thought Linda's singing was too over the top and would ruin the song. When they told her Linda quit in a huff. Walked right off the set. Took her bandannas with her.

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by Anonymousreply 50December 3, 2016 4:53 AM

I have ESP! I'm not an axe-murderess!!!!

by Anonymousreply 51December 3, 2016 4:57 AM

Most of these actresses had way too sophisticated an aura to be believable as that type of character.

The only other actress I can see playing that type is Sissy Spacek (who hasn't been mentioned). But she wouldn't have had the same kind of fire in her portrayal, I don't think.

by Anonymousreply 52December 3, 2016 7:35 AM

Debra Winger would have been a good choice, but I don't think she was a leading lady yet.

She was very believable as a blue-collar factory worker in "An Officer and a Gentleman" (1982).

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by Anonymousreply 53December 3, 2016 10:58 AM

I wish the director and producers would have thought of Patty Duke for the role. This role would have given Miss Duke a second Oscar win and started her career back in the movies.

by Anonymousreply 54December 3, 2016 11:41 AM

r50, that is a lovely song. Jennifer Warnes seldom disappoints.

by Anonymousreply 55December 3, 2016 12:05 PM

I can see Marsha Mason pulling off a working class woman named Norma Rae - but no the other three.

by Anonymousreply 56December 3, 2016 12:32 PM

I loved Marsha Mason in Frasier. Too bad a certain lead actor insisted she get the boot.

by Anonymousreply 57December 3, 2016 4:15 PM

I could do blue collar with the best of them! I'd have been a doozy!

by Anonymousreply 58December 3, 2016 4:43 PM

spill the story r57!!!

by Anonymousreply 59December 4, 2016 12:53 AM

I could see Susan Sarandon in the role.

by Anonymousreply 60December 4, 2016 1:31 AM

Yeah, R57, what happened?

by Anonymousreply 61August 17, 2017 5:54 PM

Lainie Kazan was going to do it but was fired because she was too fat.

by Anonymousreply 62August 17, 2017 5:56 PM

[quote]I read Diane Keaton, Jane Fonda, Marsha Mason, and Jill Clayburg all turned it down. (and then Sally Field beat them all for the Oscar)

Only Fonda (THE CHINA SYNDROME), Mason (CHAPTER TWO), and Clayburgh (STARTING OVER) were nominated with her that year. The other nominee was, of course, Bette (THE ROSE).

by Anonymousreply 63August 17, 2017 5:57 PM

Sally Kirkland was also up for the role.

by Anonymousreply 64August 17, 2017 5:57 PM

You were saying, Zsa Zsa/R40?

by Anonymousreply 65August 17, 2017 5:57 PM

Marsha Warfield turned it down too.

by Anonymousreply 66August 17, 2017 6:13 PM

Jill Clayburgh decided to be in that crap film where she is fucking her son instead. That wasn't one of her wisest decisions...

by Anonymousreply 67August 17, 2017 6:14 PM

I've always had a fondness for Jill Clayburgh and wish her moment had lasted longer. Her Oscar loss to Jane Fonda's thoroughly unremarkable 'Coming Home' performance was BS.

by Anonymousreply 68August 17, 2017 6:22 PM

R4 Tuesday Weld turned down EVERYTHING, including, inexplicably, "Bonnie and Clyde" which would have made her a HUGE star. She also turned down "Rosemary's Baby," "True Grit', and that "Ted & Alice" movie. I'm sure there are more. WTF was her problem? Why become an actor if you're not willing to work?

by Anonymousreply 69August 17, 2017 6:31 PM

R69, she didn't need to work, she had family money....it was always a hobby for her.

by Anonymousreply 70August 17, 2017 6:33 PM

R17, I don't think anyone questioned Sally Field's dramatic gravitas after Sybil, for which she won the Emmy.

Also, Norma Rae was what they used to call "a sleeper." It was released on March 2nd, 1980 - I imagine just a few weeks after that year's Oscars. It wasn't until the end of the summer that word of mouth really started to build. Critics really supported it; even though Field was awarded Best Actress by the jury at Cannes, she didn't really emerge as the front runner for the Oscar until the end of the year. (And despite what Bette Midler may have thought it was without question Field's year.)

I remember reading it was even offered to Barbra Streisand.

by Anonymousreply 71August 17, 2017 6:59 PM

R71 NORMA RAE was released in '79. 1980 was the year of another powerhouse, undeniable performance -- Sissy Spacek in COAL MINER'S DAUGHTER..

by Anonymousreply 72August 17, 2017 8:23 PM

Sally's Burt Reynolds inspired breast augmentation was on display in Norma Rae. Ewwww.

by Anonymousreply 73August 18, 2017 12:13 AM

R73 I don't know what any of that means.

by Anonymousreply 74August 18, 2017 12:16 AM

Streep eventually remade it anyway.

by Anonymousreply 75August 18, 2017 12:17 AM

Ron Leibman and Beau Bridges were yummy in this one/

by Anonymousreply 76April 21, 2019 4:46 AM

My Factory Myself.

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by Anonymousreply 77April 21, 2019 4:54 AM

I thought it was strange that Ron Leibman didn't get an Oscar nomination for it. He was just as good as Sally in it.

by Anonymousreply 78April 21, 2019 5:18 AM

Did they write out an affair between Norma and Reuben because it looked like the story was heading that way.

by Anonymousreply 79April 21, 2019 5:20 AM

Despite all the quality of many of those offered the role, and others who weren't offered the role, in the end the best person got the role: Sally Field.

by Anonymousreply 80April 21, 2019 6:00 AM

Keaton had her head up her ass and demanded 12 million for the roll plus 2% of the back end, and I don't think she had the chops to pull it off....Keaton doesn't do white trash or working poor very well.

by Anonymousreply 81April 21, 2019 6:44 AM

SF interview with Howard stern two years ago goes into all of this and so much more. He asked about everything. I actually found I liked her

by Anonymousreply 82April 21, 2019 6:59 AM

But did you really really like her?

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by Anonymousreply 83April 21, 2019 7:48 AM

I was offered it but I turned it down because I wasn't born yet.

by Anonymousreply 84April 21, 2019 3:49 PM

Patty Duke would have been brilliant as Norma Rae.

by Anonymousreply 85April 21, 2019 5:16 PM

Patty Duke had zero sex appeal, she may have fucked a lot, but had zero sex appeal.

by Anonymousreply 86April 21, 2019 5:59 PM

R83 LOL

by Anonymousreply 87April 22, 2019 3:09 AM

Jessica Lange?

by Anonymousreply 88April 22, 2019 6:12 AM

R88 At that time Jessica Lange was considered a joke. She really didn't gain any artistic respect until 1981 in The Postman Always Rings Twice.

by Anonymousreply 89April 22, 2019 7:02 AM

Wonder how it ended with the dangerous drug that Sally used to do commercials for ?

by Anonymousreply 90April 22, 2019 7:16 AM

Sally aged naturally.

by Anonymousreply 91April 22, 2019 6:12 PM
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