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Londoners

Please tell me about your city.

I've decided to relocate to London from the East Coast before Drumpf takes over. I won't be a party to his reign of terror.

Some friends of mine are scouting properties in the greater London area for me, but I have to admit that I know nothing about your city, and I'm going to have to learn fast.

Any helpful tips before I arrive in January?

by Anonymousreply 266January 1, 2019 12:07 AM

No thanks

by Anonymousreply 1November 29, 2016 10:52 PM

Residential property is expensive, but the decline of the £ since Bexit makes prices appear more attractive to buyers from outside the UK. Where you live needs to felate to where you'll work ( or play, if a non-worker), since rush hour commuting is miserable. Do you have a job waiting for you?

by Anonymousreply 2November 29, 2016 10:54 PM

Well, what a privileged, special little snowflake you are OP.

by Anonymousreply 3November 29, 2016 10:54 PM

[quote] Where you live needs to felate to where you'll work

Um, excuse me?

by Anonymousreply 4November 29, 2016 10:55 PM

Islamic radicals are taking over with the help of their Muslim mayor . London is now a shithole.

by Anonymousreply 5November 29, 2016 10:57 PM

Gives "who's cock do I have to suck to get an apartment around here?" a whole new resonance r4.

by Anonymousreply 6November 29, 2016 10:58 PM

R2, I'm searching for a residential property, and I work from home.

I'm going to be paying cash and based on what my friends have showed me so far, the homes are within my price range.

The problem is that London is a huge city, and I don't know anything about it. I don't know what areas are nice, what areas are not nice, what areas have good restaurants and hangouts, or a vibrant community, etc. etc.

I guess my question is, if you had your choice of places to live in London, where would Londoners choose to live?

by Anonymousreply 7November 29, 2016 10:59 PM

[quote] Islamic radicals are taking over with the help of their Muslim mayor . London is now a shithole.

Not nearly the shithole that the US is going to become under der fuhrer Drumpf.

by Anonymousreply 8November 29, 2016 11:00 PM

OMG - OP.......Take a trip over there first. If you have cash to buy you can afford to investigate and see first hand.

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by Anonymousreply 9November 29, 2016 11:03 PM

Richmond is one area I've liked when visiting.

by Anonymousreply 10November 29, 2016 11:03 PM

r8, the irony of your post is hilarious.

by Anonymousreply 11November 29, 2016 11:04 PM

Yikes!! Gays are not welcome here

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by Anonymousreply 12November 29, 2016 11:04 PM

Britain is turning batshit conservative, too!

They're about to ban porn and isolate themselves. What are you thinking, OP?

Move to the Netherlands.

by Anonymousreply 13November 29, 2016 11:05 PM

This will end in bruises and gentle sobbing

by Anonymousreply 14November 29, 2016 11:06 PM

[quote]Not nearly the shithole that the US is going to become under der fuhrer Drumpf.

R8 has never been in Bradford or East London.

by Anonymousreply 15November 29, 2016 11:09 PM

If you could afford to live there and take the time and expense needed to move there you wouldn't have to ask what it's like. They don't want you anyway. Stop sniveling and get on with your life. The truth is your life wont be much different under Trump as it would have been under Hillary. Just like it wasn't much different under Obama as it was under Bush, Clinton, Bush, Reagan, or Carter.

by Anonymousreply 16November 29, 2016 11:13 PM

Poor deplorable at R16.

Upset that real human beings don't want to live in DisUnited States of Drumpf.

Enjoy the shithole that you voted for! You'll be crying four years from now.

by Anonymousreply 17November 29, 2016 11:16 PM

R17, IS BLACK AND PROBABLY A MUSLIM.

by Anonymousreply 18November 29, 2016 11:17 PM

Pretty impressive border controls in U.K.!

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by Anonymousreply 19November 29, 2016 11:19 PM

You are so incredibly lame, R18. Incredibly lame.

And the all caps prove that you're also unhinged.

by Anonymousreply 20November 29, 2016 11:20 PM

Amsterdam. You are welcome.

by Anonymousreply 21November 29, 2016 11:20 PM

[quote]Just like it wasn't much different under Obama as it was under Bush

Seriously?!? You really think life for a gay man during Obama's presidency was substantively the same as during W.'s? We gained legal protections under Obama (which we might possibly lose now) and we gained the right to marry (see previous parenthetical).

As for London, I'm over there constantly, working in Brixton, thank you very much. East London is fine. The last time I was there, I even spent a few nights at a fabulously seedy gay bar next door to a mosque. Don't buy into the DL/Daily Mail lunacy.

by Anonymousreply 22November 29, 2016 11:21 PM

The drive to France via Calais this summer was so relaxing.....some of us even got to BBQ on the roadside since we had a WHOLE weekend to waste just getting out of the U.K.

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by Anonymousreply 23November 29, 2016 11:22 PM

Well then go to London and see if you can pull it off. Anyone who cries over an election does not have what it takes to locate to another country. More precisely a city in that country they apparently know nothing about. Anyone serious who had any kind of gumption would have been reading up on employment for non EU immigrants, cost of living, political climate, and a myriad of other things. If it seemed plausible to them they would have sought out an immigration attorney. Not posting on a board asking about it. Maybe you would have gotten a better response if your thread was titled: "Hot Guys Presenting Their Passports".

I've lived in other countries and I know what it takes to do so. Keep fantasizing but don't call people deplorables because they gave you an honest answer.

by Anonymousreply 24November 29, 2016 11:22 PM

Why are deplorables like R24 so butthurt that people don't want to live in a Drumpfocracy?

You should be happy that people who don't think like you want to move away from you.

Then you and all your deplorable friends can live in peace and harmony, with your white power salutes, your sanitized communities, your repressed media, your unqualified leaders, and your gun toting maniacal neighbors. Peace and harmony in Drumpfland. rofl.

Enjoy!

by Anonymousreply 25November 29, 2016 11:25 PM

What r16 said.

by Anonymousreply 26November 29, 2016 11:26 PM

If only they would actually move...

by Anonymousreply 27November 29, 2016 11:26 PM

OP, are you wealthy? This will make all of the difference in the world. And by wealthy, I mean are you worth at least 5M.

by Anonymousreply 28November 29, 2016 11:29 PM

OP in search of a brain.

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by Anonymousreply 29November 29, 2016 11:36 PM

r24, rocks

by Anonymousreply 30November 29, 2016 11:38 PM

You're buying a property without having been there?

Yeah, right.

0/10

by Anonymousreply 31November 29, 2016 11:45 PM

So you plan to be an illegal immigrant? You know you can't just show up in another country and stay there indefinitely, especially if you plan to work.

by Anonymousreply 32November 29, 2016 11:52 PM

OP, you're going to be a male model, am I right?

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by Anonymousreply 33November 30, 2016 12:10 AM

The people are cunts, even by US deplorable standards.

by Anonymousreply 34November 30, 2016 12:13 AM

[quote]So you plan to be an illegal immigrant? You know you can't just show up in another country and stay there indefinitely, especially if you plan to work.

Lots of Americans think the rules don't apply to them, that they can just show up in another country and live there without going through immigration or any of the other checks and balances.

by Anonymousreply 35November 30, 2016 12:18 AM

I know. Those preaching open borders and how Trump's immigration proposals would be inhumane seem to have ZERO clue about other countries immigration policies. Mexico has a wall at its southern border.

by Anonymousreply 36November 30, 2016 12:22 AM

OP.......

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by Anonymousreply 37November 30, 2016 12:23 AM

and r36, Canada has VERY strict immigration policies. check out their website .

by Anonymousreply 38November 30, 2016 12:23 AM

[quote]Some friends of mine are scouting properties in the greater London area for me

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by Anonymousreply 39November 30, 2016 12:25 AM

[post redacted because linking to dailymail.co.uk clearly indicates that the poster is either a troll or an idiot (probably both, honestly.) Our advice is that you just ignore this poster but whatever you do, don't click on any link to this putrid rag.]

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by Anonymousreply 40November 30, 2016 12:26 AM

So many hateful and jealous bitches on this thread.

by Anonymousreply 41November 30, 2016 12:27 AM

If you try to sneak into Canada, they tie you up force-feed you their shitty round bacon and make you listen to the entire Anne Murray catalog at top volume. If we here in the US patrolled our southern border this way, we would never see another Mexican again.

by Anonymousreply 42November 30, 2016 12:28 AM

R41 >>>>

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by Anonymousreply 43November 30, 2016 12:29 AM

R41......

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by Anonymousreply 44November 30, 2016 12:29 AM

I'm well aware of Canada's immigration policies. I'm the Quebec troll who went to university there and wanted to stay. HA. HA. HA. Basically the only way I could have stayed would have been if I could come up with a huge amount of cash, deposit it in a Canadian bank, then come up with some more scratch to buy a certain level of property.

by Anonymousreply 45November 30, 2016 12:29 AM

How much is a huge amount, R45?

by Anonymousreply 46November 30, 2016 12:30 AM

It's a shithole, OP.

Most of the infrastructure is Victorian, so the roads aren't wide enough for the traffic, the street plan is all over the place, the pavements aren't wide enough for the amount of people, the Tube trains can't carry the amount of passengers, there aren't enough railway lines, etc. London exists in an almost permanent state of gridlock for any given means of transport. The buses are also overcrowded. Cyclcing is quite literally terrifying.

Also, travelling by tube is very slow. In some stations it can take 10 minutes just to walk down to the platform, and while it feels like you're going quite fast when you're on the train, it actually crawls along at a snail's pace. In many places, if you're only going one stop, it's quicker to walk.

Everything central shuts down at midnight. It's quite the culture shock if you've come from a 24 hour city. That includes most of the tube network, which means you have to either get a taxi, or get the night bus, which is usually full of loud drunks and a sense of vague unease.

Violent crime is pretty bad in all central boroughs, as is car crime and burglary. However, the murder rate is low compared to US cities. Homophobic crime is increasing, especially in East London, but it's still quite low. It's much quieter in the suburbs.

Houses are tiny, and very expensive. You won't get a house in a remotely decent area for less than £1m. If you do manage to find one, check it out on streetview because it will probably be right next to a really rough estate. Apartments are easier to find for less than that. However, the same rule applies to check it on streetview, and unless it's a new building, it is unlikely to have either a lift or parking. In fact, parking is generally a nightmare unless you have a driveway, which most houses don't. Usually it's on street parking with a permit-only scheme that allows one car in front of your house, which can make it very difficult to have friends round. Houses usually also have no garden, or a very small one.

It's also very hard to say what is a nice area. All of the boroughs have nice parts and horrible parts. The councils have a tendency to put rough etates right next to nice streets, so even living somewhere like Kensington is no guarantee it'll actually be nice.

Like all English cities, it looks nice if you don't look at anything for too long. If you do, you start to notice that everything is actually quite scruffy; the houses are all stained by the huge amount of air pollution, the pavements are often a random (and uneven) patchwork of paving slabs, concrete and tarmac, ugly brutalist architecure is plonked right next to grand old terraces, skyscrapers seem to pop up everywhere with no apparent congruence, front gardens have all been paved over for parking, there's litter everywhere, and so forth.

Eating out can be found quite cheaply if you aren't that picky. If you are, it's very expensive, as is drinking. The gay scene is also spread out over the city, so you need to travel between venues. In Soho, it's all in one place, but then Soho tends to attract a younger crowd, and shuts down at midnight.

It's true that some parts of the East End do look like Karachi. Whether that's an issue, is entirely up to you.

As an American, you'll be quite surprised how rude people are, and how poor customer service is.

by Anonymousreply 47November 30, 2016 12:31 AM

Did someone mention my name?!?

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by Anonymousreply 48November 30, 2016 12:32 AM

Totally r47 and......

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by Anonymousreply 49November 30, 2016 12:34 AM

Estate = what Americans call 'the projects.'

by Anonymousreply 50November 30, 2016 12:35 AM

I live in London.

Unfortunately, R47 is correct.

by Anonymousreply 51November 30, 2016 12:36 AM

I've forgotten the amount. I'm in my thirties now and that was over a decade ago. It was an only millionaires could come up with that kind of money. I loved it there so much. I never felt so at ease anywhere else in my life. It was just a great place. Alas dreams evaporate. Some so slowly like piss on a toilet seat. Now I'm just a corporate whore.

by Anonymousreply 52November 30, 2016 12:37 AM

I live in London, and R47 has written a load of bullshit.

by Anonymousreply 53November 30, 2016 12:38 AM

R47, we now have 24 hour tubes!

Central London is pretty much 24 hour. There are 24 hour supermarkets all over London and outer London. Nearly all Tescos are 24 hour. The other shops are open 8-8, late night Thursdays.

by Anonymousreply 54November 30, 2016 12:39 AM

Yeah but do you have a Winn Dixie?

by Anonymousreply 55November 30, 2016 12:40 AM

Wow, R47... that was a very good write-up.

by Anonymousreply 56November 30, 2016 12:42 AM

Having social housing cheek by jowl with million dollar properties means there are no ghetto areas in London as there are in New York. There are housing estates but even these will be surrounded by residential areas.

You can buy a house for cheaper than 1million. Look around East Finchley or Hendon.

by Anonymousreply 57November 30, 2016 12:46 AM

I live in London... I love it... You're very lucky to be able to afford to buy a place here... Stay in West London, it's far nicer than South, East or North London... Check out beautiful and affluent areas like Kensington, Chelsea, Holland Park and Notting Hill ... If you don't have a big budget then areas like and Fulham, Chiswick, Putney, Richmond and Wimbledon are still as nice but a little bit cheaper... How much do you have to spend? Do you want a flat (apartment) or a house? What are your necessities?

by Anonymousreply 58November 30, 2016 12:46 AM

Nonsense, R54 - it's all shut and dead by 12...apart from a few 24 hour Tescos...yippee!

by Anonymousreply 59November 30, 2016 12:47 AM

So! Nothing ' s really changed from 1979 - when I spent a summer in London as a student.

Was pretty shocked at the rudeness, outmoded (even back then) transport infrastructure, narrow roadways, incredible almost stifling urban over - crowding, expensive dining.

Could wait to leave. Appreciated Canada when I got home.

Thanks for the walk down memory lane r47.

by Anonymousreply 60November 30, 2016 12:47 AM

It's much more crowded now, R60

by Anonymousreply 61November 30, 2016 12:50 AM

& the people are much more friendly (immigrants).

by Anonymousreply 62November 30, 2016 12:51 AM

LONDONSTAN

by Anonymousreply 63November 30, 2016 12:52 AM

[quote]Having social housing cheek by jowl with million dollar properties means there are no ghetto areas in London as there are in New York.

There are projects all over Manhattan that are right next to luxury apartment buildings.

by Anonymousreply 64November 30, 2016 12:52 AM

WTF OP? You do realize that they voted to leave the EU bc they are hate-filled xenophobe there too, and you will be an outsider there.

by Anonymousreply 65November 30, 2016 12:54 AM

R65 The majority of Londoners voted REMAIN... This is a multicultural city...

by Anonymousreply 66November 30, 2016 12:55 AM

r65, - Muslim or incredibly brainwashed SJW.

by Anonymousreply 67November 30, 2016 12:55 AM

What part is bullshit R53?

(He won't respond).

by Anonymousreply 68November 30, 2016 12:55 AM

R65 NO I'm not Muslim, I'm a proud Roman Catholic

by Anonymousreply 69November 30, 2016 12:56 AM

Yes, multi-zero-cultural.

by Anonymousreply 70November 30, 2016 12:56 AM

There is a BIG difference between "xenophobe" and "we've had quite enough of those Medieval barbarians at our gates."

by Anonymousreply 71November 30, 2016 12:56 AM

R71, IS BLESSED!

by Anonymousreply 72November 30, 2016 12:58 AM

Oh, God - the English are arriving - wait until they start droning on about the NHS.

by Anonymousreply 73November 30, 2016 12:59 AM

Jeez Louise.. The OP wanted recommendations.. Just stay on subject and stop making this about race/religion/brexit

by Anonymousreply 74November 30, 2016 12:59 AM

*Couldn't* wait to leave.

That said, very fond memories of my week on the Isle of Wight.

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by Anonymousreply 75November 30, 2016 12:59 AM

I was in London in June and didn't find any of the problems you mentioned. The public transportation (I took both the Tube and buses) is excellent, and customer service was just fine everywhere I went. Now, granted, I was only in a very small area -- basically from around Victoria Station to Covent Garden, so it was mostly tourists and upscale residential. That said, prices were definitely higher than I'm used to for restaurants.

by Anonymousreply 76November 30, 2016 1:03 AM

Are there ever any shark attacks in English beaches?

You always hear about them in Florida and California, but never in England.

by Anonymousreply 77November 30, 2016 1:07 AM

Waffle House is open 24 hours.

by Anonymousreply 78November 30, 2016 1:09 AM

This is NOT rocket science. As previously stated by a wise poster, if one is 1% serious about re-locate Ngel to another country, you do your due diligence - from ALL angles.

Datalounge (with a nod to all our scholarly posters!) is hardly a spot from which to begin any research relating to a wide range of topics such as property values and best locations let ALONE cultural and political considerations to factor in prior to moving.

Moving from your home country in this day and age requires an extremely sober assessment of one's needs, wants snd desires and one's financial capacities not to mention the various levels of risk (some good, some bad) one is willing to absorb or tolerate.

Moving and/or re-locating is not a trivial matter. OP - r47 has given you an exceptionally good assessment of the context you may find yourself in. That is r47's point of view but I doubt if he/she is far off the mark.

Google is your friend. As well as your feet. Book a flight. Walk. Talk. Decide. Not on a whim.

by Anonymousreply 79November 30, 2016 1:13 AM

*re-locating* ^^^^

by Anonymousreply 80November 30, 2016 1:14 AM

Well R79, there's only a month and a half before Inauguration Day on January 20, so there's not much time to flee the country...

by Anonymousreply 81November 30, 2016 1:16 AM

You may need this then.

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by Anonymousreply 82November 30, 2016 1:18 AM

Yes, get out of USA!!! Go to UK or any city in Europe. It will be much safer.

by Anonymousreply 83November 30, 2016 1:18 AM

See if you can get property overlooking Hampstead Heath - it's a beautiful area and excellent for cruising. The men's bathing pond on the Heath is hundreds of years old and offers wild swimming in the heart of the city. Beautiful, intellectual men gather there and swim and sunbathe naked. Boy George and George Michael live in Hampstead.

by Anonymousreply 84November 30, 2016 1:31 AM

Pay very close attention to r47.

by Anonymousreply 85November 30, 2016 1:37 AM

[quote]See if you can get property overlooking Hampstead Heath - it's a beautiful area and excellent for cruising. The men's bathing pond on the Heath is hundreds of years old and offers wild swimming in the heart of the city. Beautiful, intellectual men gather there and swim and sunbathe naked.

Gurl, please!

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by Anonymousreply 86November 30, 2016 1:39 AM

[quote]Boy George and George Michael live in Hampstead.

Is this supposed to be some sort of recommendation?

by Anonymousreply 87November 30, 2016 1:40 AM

Mary, at R86!

Gays as far as the eye can see!!

by Anonymousreply 88November 30, 2016 1:41 AM

Don't forget your bike!

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by Anonymousreply 89November 30, 2016 1:42 AM

Where does Edina live?

by Anonymousreply 90November 30, 2016 1:43 AM

Holland Park, everyone knows that.

by Anonymousreply 91November 30, 2016 1:44 AM

[quote]Mary, at [R86]! Gays as far as the eye can see!!

it was 'Beautiful, intellectual men gather there' that I was gurl pleasing about.

by Anonymousreply 92November 30, 2016 1:45 AM

I googled Hampstead Heath and came up with a ton of pictures of snakes. Why??

I thought there were no snakes in England.

by Anonymousreply 93November 30, 2016 1:45 AM

No, no snakes in England.

Hampstead Heath is lovely.

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by Anonymousreply 94November 30, 2016 1:47 AM

So is Primrose Hill

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by Anonymousreply 95November 30, 2016 1:48 AM

So is Regent's Park.

North London is much nicer than overrated West London.

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by Anonymousreply 96November 30, 2016 1:50 AM

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by Anonymousreply 97November 30, 2016 1:52 AM

Lovely Hampstead Heath pond...

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by Anonymousreply 98November 30, 2016 1:52 AM

Little Venice

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by Anonymousreply 99November 30, 2016 1:52 AM

London weather is pretty dismal. You get months of tepid white skies and temps in the 50s and 60s. Rain can and does fall at any time of year. The winters can be nice, with clearer skies and frost. Snow hardly ever settles, but when it does, even a few inches, London's transport comes to a standstill and schools declare a Snow Day. Last time this happened was in 2013.

Summers are the worst. Whenever the temp goes over 70f, London suddenly feels disgusting. The humidity will drive you mad, especially in the tiny flats inhabited by the majority of people under 35. Very few residences have air conditioning and, when the temps go above 80f, which they do a few times every summer, it's impossible to sleep at night. Sometimes temps go above 90f and then the whole city suffers from chronic insomnia. We actually got air-con fitted in our bedroom ten years ago but most Londoners tough it out. The bigger shops, restaurants and hotels are all air-conditioned now.

by Anonymousreply 100November 30, 2016 1:52 AM

John Waters was recently on Stephen Colbert's show and snarked on people who say they'll move to Canada because of Trump's election: "Go ahead, nobody fucking cares what you do."

by Anonymousreply 101November 30, 2016 1:54 AM

[quote]The winters can be nice, with clearer skies and frost

Not really. They're generally muggy and mild.

Haven't worn a winter coat in years.

by Anonymousreply 102November 30, 2016 1:54 AM

That's not Hampstead Heath, R98.

by Anonymousreply 103November 30, 2016 1:55 AM

R102 weighs 350 pounds.

by Anonymousreply 104November 30, 2016 1:56 AM

This article says that it is, r103

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by Anonymousreply 105November 30, 2016 1:57 AM

Lovely garden squares everywhere

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by Anonymousreply 106November 30, 2016 1:58 AM

OMG, you're right, R105.

But it doesn't usually look like that, they were draining it.

It usually looks like this >

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by Anonymousreply 107November 30, 2016 2:01 AM

Aerial view of Highgate ponds. The heath is real countryside, quite wild, not like spazzy Central Park.

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by Anonymousreply 108November 30, 2016 2:03 AM

London in springtime.

Is that Mary Poppins?

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by Anonymousreply 109November 30, 2016 2:04 AM

UK elitism and corruption is just as bad as Trumpland so don't think this is some kind of ethical decision.

The Netherlands would be a better fit for you particularly if you landed a hot Dutch husband.

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by Anonymousreply 110November 30, 2016 2:27 AM

From r110's article:

[quote]The well heeled residential areas of London are now virtual ghost towns. Trying to spot a light on in a Belgravia house on an evening is becoming increasingly difficult as property ownership becomes pure investment or holiday homes for the super rich.

This is true in NYC as well. Walk past luxury apartment buildings or rows of townhouses at night and you don't see a lot of lights on. Real estate is a place for the international wealthy to park their money, and nobody really lives in any of these residences. It's had a negative impact on city life for a variety of reasons.

by Anonymousreply 111November 30, 2016 2:31 AM

I want to move to the Faroes Islands. Part of Denmark.

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by Anonymousreply 112November 30, 2016 2:31 AM

Nice Dutch boy.

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by Anonymousreply 113November 30, 2016 2:32 AM

Yeah, real estate is one easy way for the super rich to move dirty money around and make it look legit.

by Anonymousreply 114November 30, 2016 2:35 AM

R114 Much like the Art world.. and Football...

by Anonymousreply 115November 30, 2016 2:38 AM

Oh, God - everything's so awful!

by Anonymousreply 116November 30, 2016 2:41 AM

Unless you are rich ... London is a tough unfriendly place ... If you are over 40, really tough. If you can afford Hampstead you will have a nice start. But we Brits are insular folk ... And our politics post Brexit are toxic and the economic outlook is grim. London feels like a busted flush right now. Oh and I'm in that video of the bike protest lol

by Anonymousreply 117November 30, 2016 2:55 AM

Fascinating article, R110. No wonder Brexit happened.

People all around the world seem to be feeling pissed off at what their governments are doing to them.

Selling us all out to the highest bidder. Fucking bloodsuckers.

by Anonymousreply 118November 30, 2016 3:14 AM

OP after reading this thread.

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by Anonymousreply 119November 30, 2016 3:21 AM

Some helpful cultural insights for OP.

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by Anonymousreply 120November 30, 2016 3:40 AM

More insights for OP.

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by Anonymousreply 121November 30, 2016 3:41 AM

OP, I LOVE London, been visiting there regularly since 1994, and I've noticed changes in the city over time that gives me pause for concern. But with that said, I still would love to live there, and if that were to happen, I would have to have a shit load of money, and buy property in a nice part of town to feel comfortable. Living in the UK is very different than the US and you need to actually visit there first before you think about moving there. You need to do some serious homework and study immigration laws to England. Even being an American, it's just not that simple.

by Anonymousreply 122November 30, 2016 3:45 AM

If you move to 'greater London' you will just end up living off a high street and it will feel like a small town that could be anywhere. You can buy three bedroom terrace houses for way under 1m in zones 5 and 6, though.

Hampstead is lovely and people do really live there, there are lights on all along the streets at night, at least in the smaller, 3 bedroom houses. Don't expect your neighbours to be friendly. You can get to know people by signing up for local activities - there is a real community feel there. It's also a very white area.

by Anonymousreply 123November 30, 2016 3:51 AM

[quote]It's also a very white area.

This is probably what OP was waiting to hear, but couldn't just come right out and ask.

by Anonymousreply 124November 30, 2016 3:52 AM

[quote]You can buy three bedroom terrace houses for way under 1m in zones 5 and 6, though.

OP, never, ever listen to someone who talks about London in ZONES.

by Anonymousreply 125November 30, 2016 3:55 AM

Why? No-one calls it 'Greater London anymore'! We discuss house property in terms of zones first, then areas. You can get 3 bedroom terraced houses for $300m in some parts of Zone 6. People commute to work on the train, no-one drives into central London anymore. The zones refer to travelcard zones.

Here's some Hampstead houses.

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by Anonymousreply 126November 30, 2016 3:57 AM

[quote]You can get 3 bedroom terraced houses for $300m in some parts of Zone 6

I've lived in London for 53 years and even I don't know what the fuck you're talking about - how do you expect OP to?

You're an idiot.

by Anonymousreply 127November 30, 2016 4:03 AM

I would love to live in this house.

Can you imagine? London. This house. Absolute heaven. I'd never leave.

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by Anonymousreply 128November 30, 2016 4:04 AM

And you're a mega spaz. I guess you never travelled by train or tube? Do you just live and work in High Barnet?

by Anonymousreply 129November 30, 2016 4:05 AM

No, which zone is High Barnet in?

by Anonymousreply 130November 30, 2016 4:06 AM

This is another beauty..

I wonder how much it sells for?

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by Anonymousreply 131November 30, 2016 4:08 AM

Zone 5, you deacon

by Anonymousreply 132November 30, 2016 4:09 AM

That house is very nouveau riche, R128.

Try this >>

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by Anonymousreply 133November 30, 2016 4:09 AM

I know that Paris is divided into arrondissements, but I've never heard of London being divided into "zones."

Is that a new thing?

by Anonymousreply 134November 30, 2016 4:10 AM

What's the area around Buckingham Palace like? Is it posh or is it ghetto?

by Anonymousreply 135November 30, 2016 4:10 AM

I've lived in Chelsea, Kensington and Chelsea, Notting Hill and Kennington. Preferred the latter of late as it is most like the old London I knew with a very mixed community but with many whose families have been there for decades ( don't listen to the fearful and bitchy on here who clearly never travel anywhere ), walkable to the centre of town, very green with parks and trees and some great pubs. Kensington and Chelsea, like Knightsbridge, has rather been taken over by wealthy foreigners. As many Americans though as others so... Notting Hill, while not being as funky and bohemian as it used to be, still has its own character and great properties. Chelsea is, as it has long been, plagued by snobs who think they are a cut above just because they live there but it has long since lost the true, old school English style it was known for. Great properties as well though. Hampstead, St John's Wood, Primrose Hill also worth checking out. Somewhat further out so not immediately walkable into centre but very green, full of trees and handsome houses. I have really only lived West and South and never not been able to walk into town in less that half an hour so can't speak for elsewhere. Lived there for 30 years and only moved because partner is older and wanted sea air. Like any city gentrification has altered many parts and is either a bane or a boon depending on your outlook. There is a sizeable Muslim community but only in a small part ( a few streets ) will you encounter any unpleasant insularity. Like all large, international cities there are areas that are inhabited by many different nationalities and cultures. One of the reasons eating around the city is so good. There is traffic congestion and public transport can be a bit of a nightmareas mentioned but you said you will work from home so may be able to miss the worst of it. I have an American friend who still remains impressed by the underground system as it is so extensive compared to US cities. It is a very walkable city. In fact, you can get across the city West to South entirely through parks. There are great museums, a lot of galleries both public and independent, many theatres, many music venues of all types. Loads of good places to eat as mentioned and, once you are settled and more familiar, you will discover plenty of reasonably priced ones. Got to recommend the Newman Street Tavern near Tottenham Court Road here for an excellent menu that changes daily depending on what they get in. Lunches there are a treat. Also, the SummerHouse on the canal in Maida Vale. I've lived in Baltimore, Palm Springs, LA and San Francisco and you are far safer walking around or socialising out than in any of those ( well, yes, Palm Springs was safe but very dull ). That said, I loved Baltimore and SF so maybe I have a different outlook to those on here that assume everyone and everything everywhere are out to get them. Compared to the US service can be worse on occasion and yes, it will rain. London is a large and very cosmopolitan city with all that entails, good and bad. The shared language does not mean we share social and cultural customs. I experienced that as something of a shock when living in the US. But quickly worked through it. It would be the same anywhere. But there are very few guns and a hell of a lot of history and culture. I loved it and it was the making of me. Check it out for 6 months and see.... Have fun. Take care.

by Anonymousreply 136November 30, 2016 4:10 AM

[quote]Zone 5, you deacon

You're the one who knows where it is, I don't - and you're accusing ME of living there, like it's something terrible.

by Anonymousreply 137November 30, 2016 4:11 AM

[quote]People commute to work on the train, no-one drives into central London anymore.

I do. I drive everywhere.

by Anonymousreply 138November 30, 2016 4:12 AM

R136, PARAGRAPHS!!!

Please post it again and press the return key twice between paragraphs.

by Anonymousreply 139November 30, 2016 4:13 AM

R137, you seem rich and posh.

by Anonymousreply 140November 30, 2016 4:13 AM

[quote]What's the area around Buckingham Palace like? Is it posh or is it ghetto?

It's mostly parkland.

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by Anonymousreply 141November 30, 2016 4:14 AM

How large is London? How long would it take to get to know the entire city, R136? You seem to be a life-long resident.

Is it this behemoth that one can never really explore completely?

New York is fairly easy to get to know, as is San Francisco. In fact, most American cities (with the exception of Los Angeles which is just HUGE) are pretty easy to discover over the course of a year.

How does London compare? There seems to be so many different districts and areas and neighborhoods, that it would seemingly take forever to explore.

by Anonymousreply 142November 30, 2016 4:16 AM

[quote][R137], you seem rich and posh.

Not especially.

You seem poor and common.

You're not FROM London, are you, Mr. Zone Man?

by Anonymousreply 143November 30, 2016 4:18 AM

[quote]How large is London?

It's HUGE. VAST.

[quote]How long would it take to get to know the entire city, [R136]?

Unlikely you'd ever know it all. You need to find your corner. The distances are great.

by Anonymousreply 144November 30, 2016 4:20 AM

[quote][R137], you seem rich and posh.

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[quote]You seem poor and common.

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If you want to understand England, OP - you'll need to understand CLASS.

CLASS underlies EVERYTHING in England.

by Anonymousreply 145November 30, 2016 4:23 AM

This area looks lovely. Where is it?

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by Anonymousreply 146November 30, 2016 4:25 AM

That's Camden Lock.

Not very lovely.

by Anonymousreply 147November 30, 2016 4:27 AM

Let's test who's really in London now.

What time is it?

What does it mean if someone calls you a Deacon or a Joey?

by Anonymousreply 148November 30, 2016 4:31 AM

Lol, anyone can google your "test," R148.

Massive fail.

by Anonymousreply 149November 30, 2016 4:32 AM

Excellent point r145. The issue of class distinctions is lost on North Americans when they first visit London. It is pervasive and informs everything you do.

You will be 'classed' by your education, your 'social breeding' in terms of family background and accent.

That is why I posted the"Posh Moms" comedy videos in r120 and r121.

The Brits are 'insular' comment - a euphemism if ever there was one.

by Anonymousreply 150November 30, 2016 4:33 AM

Never heard anyone use the words deacon or Joey. What the fuck is that?

It's 5:34 AM & I can't sleep. God knows why there are so many Londoners on here at this time. Why are you here Zone Man?

by Anonymousreply 151November 30, 2016 4:35 AM

R150 isn't in London as he couldn't tell us what time it is there.

You're not classed by your education. You're immediately judged by your occupation, though. That's the first thing anyone asks. People don't ask where you went to university and school straight away.

by Anonymousreply 152November 30, 2016 4:36 AM

This just suddenly turned into the Idiot Thread (r148).

by Anonymousreply 153November 30, 2016 4:36 AM

In terms of what you wrote R150, where do Americans fit into that picture?

by Anonymousreply 154November 30, 2016 4:36 AM

deacon and joey sound Australian.

by Anonymousreply 155November 30, 2016 4:37 AM

It's 5.36 and quite a few Londoners are already up and driving to work to beat the rush hour.

Joey Deacon was a famous guy with cerebral palsy. Kids in the 1980s used to call each other 'JOEY' instead of 'spaz'. Maybe the posh guy is too old to remember this.

I don't have to work tomorrow and plan to sleep when the house is quieter.

by Anonymousreply 156November 30, 2016 4:39 AM

[quote]You're not classed by your education.

They can tell by your accent - they don't need to ask.

[quote]You're immediately judged by your occupation, though.

They also ask you where YOU LIVE, very quickly.

by Anonymousreply 157November 30, 2016 4:40 AM

They don't darling at r154.

by Anonymousreply 158November 30, 2016 4:40 AM

[quote]I don't have to work tomorrow and plan to sleep when the house is quieter.

It's noisy at 5:30 in the morning? What's going on?

by Anonymousreply 159November 30, 2016 4:41 AM

Asking someone where they live can be meaningless, as there is council housing even on the Kings Road. In fact, a lot of social housing is in Zone 1, not where you'd expect it to be at all.

by Anonymousreply 160November 30, 2016 4:42 AM

People are getting up, showering, radio on. Only just, though. They will be gone by about 7am.

by Anonymousreply 161November 30, 2016 4:43 AM

[quote]Asking someone where they live can be meaningless, as there is council housing even on the Kings Road.

Do stop. You know nothing.

by Anonymousreply 162November 30, 2016 4:43 AM

What is all of this "zone" stuff, Londoners?

Is there such a thing, or will you just be laughed at by the natives?

by Anonymousreply 163November 30, 2016 4:44 AM

[quote]What is all of this "zone" stuff, Londoners?

Ignore it. It's just one pleb (who actually sounds sweet). He's not a native Londoner.

by Anonymousreply 164November 30, 2016 4:45 AM

You sound like you live in a council estate r161.

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by Anonymousreply 166November 30, 2016 4:46 AM

Big fat uncut cocks. Heaven.

by Anonymousreply 167November 30, 2016 4:47 AM

Yes, I live in an ex council property in Kensington.

by Anonymousreply 168November 30, 2016 4:47 AM

You don't even know about the travelcard zones, so you must be very old, very frail. That's probably why you can't sleep. I am guessing you're 76.

by Anonymousreply 169November 30, 2016 4:49 AM

Those Apartment posted by r166 are Depressing. Tiny windows in a cramped layout in an uninspiring highrise. Awful.

by Anonymousreply 170November 30, 2016 4:50 AM

How filthy rich are you OP?

by Anonymousreply 171November 30, 2016 4:51 AM

They are grim indeed, but typical London. Every time you turn round there's a block like that. But because there are so many, all over the place, it does stop ghettoes forming like they do in New York.

by Anonymousreply 172November 30, 2016 4:53 AM

Total and utter con. I figured it out immediately.

by Anonymousreply 173November 30, 2016 4:53 AM

[quote]You don't even know about the travelcard zones, so you must be very old, very frail. That's probably why you can't sleep.

Of course I know about them. I never go beyond zone 2 in the tube. I drive if going out that far.

I'm now going to make porridge.

by Anonymousreply 174November 30, 2016 4:53 AM

Porridge. Now THAT's English! LOL!

Wonder if there'll be marmalade on soldier toasts, soft-boiled egg, and Earl Grey tea.

by Anonymousreply 175November 30, 2016 4:59 AM

Bit of marmite on some Hovis granary bread and hot chocolate.

by Anonymousreply 176November 30, 2016 5:01 AM

Lived in Australia for a few years. Still can't get over how those poor buggers love that awful substance called Vegemite. I gather Marmite isn't much better. Or is it?

by Anonymousreply 177November 30, 2016 5:09 AM

[quote]Porridge. Now THAT's English! LOL!

Not really, gurl. It's Scottish.

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by Anonymousreply 178November 30, 2016 5:12 AM

From Waitrose?

by Anonymousreply 179November 30, 2016 5:15 AM

[quote]Lived in Australia for a few years. Still can't get over how those poor buggers love that awful substance called Vegemite. I gather Marmite isn't much better. Or is it?

I don't really know. I never liked it personally. I should think the zone man likes it, from what I've gathered about him so far.

I sometimes used to have Bovril though.

by Anonymousreply 180November 30, 2016 5:15 AM

[quote]From Waitrose?

LOL. Maybe. I think I bought it at Sainsbury's, actually.

by Anonymousreply 181November 30, 2016 5:16 AM

I love those videos at R120 and r121! Yeah, we Americans don't have the same equivalent, but we do have certain similarities regarding public vs private schools, mainstream vs regional/ethnic accents, ghetto/trailer park vs bougie black/trust-fund white, etc ...

by Anonymousreply 182November 30, 2016 5:23 AM

But where are the better postal codes?

by Anonymousreply 183November 30, 2016 5:37 AM

Thank you R150 for introducing me to the hilarious Catherine Tate!

by Anonymousreply 184November 30, 2016 6:01 AM

Catherine Tate's 'Gay Son' >>

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by Anonymousreply 185November 30, 2016 6:10 AM

Gay Son Part 2 >>

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by Anonymousreply 186November 30, 2016 6:12 AM

I do like marmite, but I am partial to porridge too.

I need to renew my Travelcard today.

by Anonymousreply 187November 30, 2016 6:33 AM

I don't think anyone would say 'Hi, my name is Sally and I live in zone 4', but Sally might complain about being stuck out in zone 4 or joke about me being lucky and living in zone 1. It's not how you identify where you live but is instead mentioned to make comparisons, or moan about travel costs and how long your journey to work is.

Not all council flats are ugly tower blocks, by the way. Mine is an old red brick.

by Anonymousreply 188November 30, 2016 7:19 AM

OP, learn these zones off by heart.

Porridge Man: You are very lucky living in Zone 1.

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by Anonymousreply 189November 30, 2016 7:22 AM

I didn't say I lived in Zone 1 - I live in zone 2, just. I had to look it up.(see link). I tend to drive or use the bus and then walk. I hate the tube.

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by Anonymousreply 190November 30, 2016 7:30 AM

OP fled to Amsterdam scared off by all the 'zone' talk.

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by Anonymousreply 191November 30, 2016 7:30 AM

OP looks like a fun guy.

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by Anonymousreply 193November 30, 2016 7:37 AM

How about Edinburgh?

by Anonymousreply 194November 30, 2016 8:59 AM

R183 W8 (KENSINGTON), SW3, SW10 (Chelsea)

by Anonymousreply 195November 30, 2016 9:21 AM

Go to Tower Hamlets. Have Fun!

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by Anonymousreply 196November 30, 2016 10:32 AM

What's the area where the drunken chavs pass out?

by Anonymousreply 197November 30, 2016 11:33 AM

Was in London for a month to work last December and really didn't find some of what r47 said- we took the Tube everywhere with no delays at all, everyone was pleasant, customer service was great. Dining out is expensive (but the food was way better than England has been fabled for), and we stayed in Marleybone. There is a great little neighborhood between that and Oxford Street. I'd love to live in London or Paris for a while, but really OP, you need to check out Amsterdam- I'd move there in a heartbeat.

by Anonymousreply 198November 30, 2016 11:40 AM

Oh R133 that's the one I want! Do you think someone on an administrative assistant's salary could afford to live there?

by Anonymousreply 199November 30, 2016 11:45 AM

The term'zones' is euphemism for racial geographic segregation.

by Anonymousreply 200November 30, 2016 11:53 AM

Move to Berlin instead. Although it is closer to Russia and the winters tend to last forever.

by Anonymousreply 201November 30, 2016 12:20 PM

For English speakers, Amsterdam and Berlin are not really options.

London is the best choice.

Btw, is Kensington a nice area? Are there actual places to live there, or is it just a bunch of parks and gardens?

by Anonymousreply 202November 30, 2016 12:30 PM

R202 Kensington is a beautiful area.. It has a high street, High Street Kensington with shops such as Whole Foods and Marks And Spencer.. It's also home to Hyde Park... You won't find any flaws with Kensington...

by Anonymousreply 203November 30, 2016 3:01 PM

R203 Except that this garage that's been converted into a "house" for the princely sum of £850k is the cheapest housein the borough.

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by Anonymousreply 204November 30, 2016 3:05 PM

R204 NO it's not.... here is a nice 1 bed flat for £500,000 .... OP hasn't told us what his budget is

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by Anonymousreply 205November 30, 2016 3:08 PM

OP - why don't you skip the London move and move directly to where you need to be, as a 1%er, insulated from the world's problems. Switzerland. I've kindly linked to Sotheby's real estate for you, and suggest Cologny or Conches in Geneva. Looking forward to welcoming you soon.

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by Anonymousreply 206November 30, 2016 3:10 PM

That's a flat, not a house, R205.

by Anonymousreply 207November 30, 2016 3:26 PM

R207 PAY ATTENTION I clearly said it was a flat.. OP hasn't told us what his budget is so we don't know what he can afford

by Anonymousreply 208November 30, 2016 3:28 PM

Perfect pied-a-terre R204, and certainly in 'the right zone.'

by Anonymousreply 209November 30, 2016 3:37 PM

Sorry R139 it won't happen again!

by Anonymousreply 210November 30, 2016 3:58 PM

R203 North Kensington W10 is Ladbroke Grove...... Kensington is W8

by Anonymousreply 211November 30, 2016 4:02 PM

Whoops sorry.. above comment is for R204 not R203

by Anonymousreply 212November 30, 2016 4:03 PM

"I met a Londoner first, but we did not hit it off

Cause everytime I approached, he got a bronchial cough."

by Anonymousreply 213November 30, 2016 4:05 PM

Apologies to all for lack of paragraphs previously. It was in the early hours. I couldn't sleep but was clearly not firing on all cylinders...

Have lived in Chelsea, Kensington and Chelsea, Notting Hill and Kennington. Preferred the latter of late as it is most like the old London I knew with a very mixed community but with many whose families have been there for decades ( don't listen to the fearful and bitchy on here who clearly never travel anywhere ), walkable to the centre of town, very green with parks and trees and some great pubs.

Kensington and Chelsea, like Knightsbridge, has rather been taken over by wealthy foreigners. As many Americans though as others so... Notting Hill, while not being as funky and bohemian as it used to be, still has its own character and great properties. Chelsea is, as it has long been, plagued by snobs who think they are a cut above just because they live there but it has long since lost the true, old school English style it was known for. Great properties as well though. Hampstead, St John's Wood, Primrose Hill also worth checking out. Somewhat further out so not immediately walkable into centre but very green, full of trees and handsome houses. I have really only lived West and South and never not been able to walk into town in less that half an hour so can't speak for elsewhere.

Lived there for 30 years and only moved because partner is older and wanted sea air. Like any city gentrification has altered many parts and is either a bane or a boon depending on your outlook. There is a sizeable Muslim community but only in a small part ( a few streets ) will you encounter any unpleasant insularity. Like all large, international cities there are areas that are inhabited by many different nationalities and cultures. One of the reasons eating around the city is so good.

There is traffic congestion and public transport can be a bit of a nightmare as mentioned but you said you will work from home so may be able to miss the worst of it. I have an American friend who still remains impressed by the underground system as it is so extensive compared to US cities. It is a very walkable city. In fact, you can get across the city West to South entirely through parks.

There are great museums, a lot of galleries both public and independent, many theatres, many music venues of all types. Loads of good places to eat as mentioned and, once you are settled and more familiar, you will discover plenty of reasonably priced ones. Got to recommend the Newman Street Tavern near Tottenham Court Road here for an excellent menu that changes daily depending on what they get in. Lunches there are a treat. Also, the SummerHouse on the canal in Maida Vale.

I've lived in Baltimore, Palm Springs, LA and San Francisco and you are far safer walking around or socialising out than in any of those ( well, yes, Palm Springs was safe but very dull ). That said, I loved Baltimore and SF so maybe I have a different outlook to those on here that assume everyone and everything everywhere are out to get them. Compared to the US service can be worse on occasion and yes, it will rain.

London is a large and very cosmopolitan city with all that entails, good and bad. The shared language does not mean we share social and cultural customs. I experienced that as something of a shock when living in the US. But quickly worked through it. It would be the same anywhere. But there are very few guns and a hell of a lot of history and culture. I loved it and it was the making of me. Check it out for 6 months and see.... Have fun. Take care.

by Anonymousreply 214November 30, 2016 4:07 PM

r202 is misinformed and has never come to Europe. Amsterdam and Berlin are fine for English speakers. Quite good in fact. A few years of study and one will be adequate in local language/s.

by Anonymousreply 215November 30, 2016 4:08 PM

It's never quite the same living in a country where English isn't the primary language, R215.

Hard to explain, but it just ... isn't.

Also, I've been to both Amsterdam and Berlin, and the natives are quite selective about when they choose to speak English, and when they don't. It doesn't always make for a pleasant experience if you don't speak Dutch or German.

by Anonymousreply 216November 30, 2016 7:03 PM

London is doomed!

by Anonymousreply 217November 30, 2016 7:45 PM

Where ever I live I find that I am the center of the social hub. I'm known for my candlelight suppers. I'll be very popular in ANY zone.

by Anonymousreply 218November 30, 2016 8:28 PM

Where ever I live I find that I am the center of the social hub. I'm known for my candlelight suppers. I'll be very popular in ANY zone.

by Anonymousreply 219November 30, 2016 8:28 PM

Where ever I live I find that I am the center of the social hub. I'm known for my candlelight suppers. I'll be very popular in ANY zone.

by Anonymousreply 220November 30, 2016 8:28 PM

Where ever I live I find that I am the center of the social hub. I'm known for my candlelight suppers. I'll be very popular in ANY zone.

by Anonymousreply 221November 30, 2016 8:28 PM

The OP said his friends were looking at properties in Greater London, which means ZONE 5 AND 6. He won't be able to afford Kensington or even Highgate.

Maybe check out High Barnet or Totteridge and Whetstone, OP.

by Anonymousreply 222November 30, 2016 8:40 PM

[quote]London is doomed!

London ALWAYS rises from the ashes. ALWAYS.

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by Anonymousreply 223November 30, 2016 9:02 PM

I live in District 9.

by Anonymousreply 224December 1, 2016 12:57 AM

R224 >>>

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by Anonymousreply 225December 1, 2016 1:03 AM

What a fucking bore at R214. London blows.

by Anonymousreply 226December 1, 2016 1:05 AM

R224 posted this in his front yard...

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by Anonymousreply 227December 1, 2016 1:06 AM

R224's mother >>

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by Anonymousreply 228December 1, 2016 1:09 AM

R224's family pet >>

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by Anonymousreply 229December 1, 2016 1:13 AM

Is the Golden Girls on any of the London stations?

by Anonymousreply 230December 1, 2016 1:18 AM

There's a British version which might interest you, OP

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by Anonymousreply 231December 1, 2016 1:29 AM

If you can afford it, the cultural side is unbeatable ... Opera, galleries ... Superb restaurants etc. All takes a lot of money. Americans get a pass on the class thing, if they are educated enough. Otherwise, socially, they are sneered at and pegged alongside fat chavs, just above Muslims

by Anonymousreply 232December 1, 2016 1:37 AM

Zones refers to the pricing of public transport in London. The zones radiate out in something approximating concentric circles, with Zone 1 being in the centre. The price of the fare goes up according to how many zones you have to travel through.

by Anonymousreply 233December 1, 2016 1:52 AM

[quote] Americans get a pass on the class thing, if they are educated enough. Otherwise, socially, they are sneered at and pegged alongside fat chavs, just above Muslims

yet they're obsessed with America and things American, which they try to reproduce but never get right.

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by Anonymousreply 234December 1, 2016 2:42 AM

Hamburger, German? French Fries, Belgian?

by Anonymousreply 235December 1, 2016 3:30 AM

[quote]yet they're obsessed with America and things American, which they try to reproduce but never get right.

Like Benedict Cumberbatch's American accent in Doctor Strange.

by Anonymousreply 236December 1, 2016 5:49 AM

London is a city of skinny people. You won't find pies there. Americans who are overweight will be scorned by the average Londoner.

by Anonymousreply 237December 1, 2016 10:50 AM

Americans who are overweight are scorned by other Americans, i.e. the fat flyover tourists in NY.

by Anonymousreply 238December 1, 2016 12:40 PM

I would recommend the move highly. So many opportunities for a young girl that America just wouldn't allow. I mean, who in America is going to buy a vag steamer. (I got the idea in UK when my maid said she needed a new veg steamer).

by Anonymousreply 239December 1, 2016 1:28 PM

I can tell you where to avoid, OP.

Barking, Dagenham, Plaistow, Poplar, Beckton, Forest Gate, Canning Town, West Ham, East Ham, Stratford, Isle of Dogs, Walthamstow, Leytonstone, Mile End, Shadwell.

Like the plague. Incidentally, the plague did break out in West Ham when I lived there in the 90s - a few cases of bubonic plague.

by Anonymousreply 240December 1, 2016 1:41 PM

You can't just pick up and move to England on a whim. They let the rest of the world move there, but if you are American it's a completely different thing. You probably won't be able to get a bank account. Have you ever traveled to a foreign country? They ask you what the nature of your visit is for. And telling them that you plan to move there is not an acceptable answer. You are only allowed to stay 6 months as a tourist. Even if you did this legally (and that takes time), you have to have a job that pays you £45,000 a year

Once again, you probably won't even be able to get a bank account. Your credit rating in America doesn't mean a thing in England

by Anonymousreply 241December 1, 2016 4:19 PM

He could claim political asylum, R241.

by Anonymousreply 242December 1, 2016 6:02 PM

[quote]Once again, you probably won't even be able to get a bank account. Your credit rating in America doesn't mean a thing in England

Not true.

Open an account in the the USA with a branch in England and do it thru them - I did that, but the other way round.

by Anonymousreply 243December 1, 2016 6:44 PM

OP, I hope you'll visit me for tea when you come to London.

We'll invite ZoneMan over (he can come on the tube) and we'll have scones and clotted cream and treacle tart before the open fire.

Do you TALK like an American DLer in real life? Do you say things like "GURL, please..." - I hope so.

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by Anonymousreply 244December 1, 2016 6:58 PM

I do like treacle tart and scones with clotted cream.

Another area to avoid is Tower Hamlets. Do not be deceived by the fact that it's in Zone 1.

by Anonymousreply 245December 1, 2016 7:40 PM

Will it be just like Bridgette Jones's diary?

by Anonymousreply 246December 1, 2016 11:07 PM

No: more like Attack the Block

by Anonymousreply 247December 1, 2016 11:19 PM

Just remember, if you want to flip someone off, you use TWO fingers.

by Anonymousreply 248December 1, 2016 11:45 PM

Which fingers, R248?

by Anonymousreply 249December 1, 2016 11:46 PM

No, people under 45 are using just the one now.

by Anonymousreply 250December 2, 2016 12:26 AM

Another great Catherine Tate

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by Anonymousreply 251December 2, 2016 5:43 AM

London is pretty great, if you have the capital. It's probably more fascinating and interesting than New York City, just maybe not as exciting. But of the Euro-caps, I'd still prefer to live in Berlin.

by Anonymousreply 252December 2, 2016 12:55 PM

[quote]Which fingers, [R248]?

You're index finger and you're middle finger.

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by Anonymousreply 253December 2, 2016 1:14 PM

Lol R253... that used to be called the "peace" sign.

Funny how now it's become "fuck you."

by Anonymousreply 254December 2, 2016 6:35 PM

No, the peace sign, the hand's the other way round.

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by Anonymousreply 255December 2, 2016 6:51 PM

Sorry to bore you R226. 'London blows'. Are you a petulant teenage girl by any chance?

by Anonymousreply 256December 12, 2016 5:31 PM

London and Paris will both be majority Muslim in about 40 years. And then the REAL fun will begin!

by Anonymousreply 257December 12, 2016 6:14 PM

All the major museums in London are free still so I don't know why people are saying you can't be a tourist there on a budget. Flights from Europe to Gatwick or Luton are literally pennies - you can easily get there for about $60 return.

As for the Muslim majority, that's already happened. The most popular boy's name in London has been Mohammed for several years running now. Muslims have huge families whereas a lot of middle class London couples don't have any children at all by choice.

by Anonymousreply 258December 14, 2016 12:18 AM

Have you moved yet OP?

by Anonymousreply 259November 7, 2017 12:36 PM

R259 - OP ain't goin' nowhere.

by Anonymousreply 260November 7, 2017 12:50 PM

Yes, that's where I was going with that R260.

by Anonymousreply 261November 7, 2017 1:00 PM

OP moved to London and died in a terrorist attack

by Anonymousreply 262November 7, 2017 1:13 PM

It's been two years, OP, are you there yet?

by Anonymousreply 263December 31, 2018 11:51 PM

OP has been placed on the "fixated persons" list.

by Anonymousreply 264December 31, 2018 11:54 PM

Yes we did move to London. Loving the laid back small town lifestyle and fitting right in.

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by Anonymousreply 265January 1, 2019 12:02 AM

I'm curious about the gyms in London. Anyone have a recommendation for a gay-friendly gym (or chain)?

by Anonymousreply 266January 1, 2019 12:07 AM
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