Madonna is Not Taking This Ageing Thing Well

She's "re-inventing" herself.

The trouble with Madonna is that she has no sense of humor about herself. That sets her apart from someone like Cher. Even Tina Turner could be sexy in her 40s and 50s and keep her dignity. Madonna just takes herself waaaay too seriously.

Madonna has tried to be as cool as Dolly Parton her whole life, and has failed miserably. Now she's getting desperate.

Aging.

Behold the ravages of age!

[quote]Behold the ravages of age!

lol!

She doesn't want to believe she's the age she is. She wants to believe she's still 25, still hot (was Madonna ever really "hot?"), still a relevant sex symbol. She's an aging celebrity who doesn't want to be old.

None of her pics have ever made me want to slap her as much as the thumb sucking one does. Even the ones with her wrinkled old dugs hanging out didnt phase me ,but this one really is ridiculous .

Trying to compete with 19 year old girls at 58 is a no win situation. Know your audience, dear girl. A 15 year old kid isnt ever going to chose to masturbate with your Instagram selfies over those of Selena Gomez.

What is going on here?

Grillz. Smoking.

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Why?

"Why do people laugh at me? Why??"

She's always been an attention whore.

[quote]was Madonna ever really "hot?"

She could clean up well. She was never a natural beauty. She's turned herself into a laughing stock. The bitterness is unbelievable and why the hell is she hanging out with the Kartrashians???!

Is she dating anyone these days?

Yeah, yeah Janbot (OP). Slow night in your basement is it?

We can all smell your rancid, trolling stench posting all the anti-Madonna threads for attention...

Any word on Janet's fake baby, her disastrous tour which had to be cancelled due to lack of interest in a flurry of made up excuses and lies or her last flop of an album and dead career? No? Nothing at all?

And I haven't even mentioned how [bold]FAT[/bold] she continues to be... Not to mention her shocking plastic surgery addiction. It's all bad Janbot.

Also - you forgot to screech "MADONNA FELL DOWN THE STAIRS!!!!"

Stay pressed cunty.

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Fat Janet:

Who the hell is she even writing this to? Who the hell even bothers to tell that old slag to act her age?

Fatty:

Dead career:

Fat ass:

Top selling music artists of all time:

[bold]Madonna #4 with 175 millions certified unit sales.[/bold]

Janet Jackson #48 with 52.1 million certified unit sales.

Oh dear. Madonna is just out of Janet's league...

Suck it Shitbot.

behold the ravages of time!

Vadge just wanted some attention, nothing new. She's furious that people forget she exists unless she's ranting on social media or having custody issues. Great example for her kids...

Janet Jackson nixes shows after poor ticket sales:

NEVER, EVER, EVVVVVVER did I think the Madonna I grew up with, worshiped, and loved, would end up this tragic. Honestly, its mindbogling and sad at the same time. Why? WHY?!?!?!?!????

Janet Jackson cancels tour dates due to poor ticket sales:

Makes up lie about requiring an urgent operation. Fans catch on and are furious.

R31 because at the time you were growing up, you couldn't see past her charades and bs. If social media had been around in the 80s, she would have publicly displayed how pathetic she is back then too.

Janet Jackson Cancels MORE Unbreakable World Tour Dates… What's Going On?!

What's going on? Nobody was interested in going to watch a has-been with a dead career embarrass herself so she had to cancel her tour due to lack of interest. In doing so she pissed off the last fans she had.

Except for Stenchbot who continues to plague Datalounge with anti-Madonna threads.

R20 seems to be the JanBot. No one mentioned her until this poor poor psychotic person did.

Janet Jackson has nothing to do with this discussion about Madonna. The JanBot apparently has a burning need to bring up her name in a thread about Madonna. I guess the JanBot thinks Janet needs the attention.

Well, we know if it was her whole face we would be afraid. Where is the wrinkle of a real person. She is so Mae West.

She actually looks great in the face. Good surgery. And her body is excellent. Why doesn't she go for an elegant image in her old age? She could carry off high fashion beautifully. She could mentor young artists, write books, direct vanity projects.....whatever. But this teenage thug act? Pathetic. Truly. Doesn't she have ANYONE in her life who can tell her the truth. Jesus, she needs help. Bad.

[quote]She actually looks great in the face.

Are you blind??? She's pumped so full of fats and toxins it's not even funny. Her face was botched a long time ago.

Her body is alright, but her only real talent was ripping off other people. Unfortunately, she ripped off everyone and everything and there's nothing left, so she's back to repeating herself. She only showed actual originality in social commentary, and that lasted for about a second back in the late 80s, early to mid 90s.

...and she was the first female pop star to purposely release and market a pornographic book and music video.

She's not a very bright woman when it all comes down to it. She made money the easy way. I guess she should get an award for not turning to drugs and alcohol like her peers to deal with her narcissism. She did however, turn to a cult.

Madonna is under-developed emotionally and intellectually, which is why at her age, with her achievements, she is still incapable of not entering EVERY pissing contest that will have her as a contestant!

She's also petty and vulgar.

I agree she does not look good. Her face and lips are full of fillers. She is another famous person who is inherently unhappy even though she has millions. And it's very anti-spiritual to deny aging.

Why does someone want to be known as The World's Oldest Teenager? She should be injected with some sense, not more filler.

Back in her heyday, she wasn't warm or charming or funny, but she was totally fearless - and that made her cool. It was her best quality and now it's gone, you can feel the desperate fear of age in every pixel of those photos.

With her money and her looks she could have aged into an incredibly elegant woman, and that would have been the fearless way to go - if she'd let herself age and still looked good, she might still be cool! But no, she can't live without projecting sexuality, and she doesn't know how to be a sexy grownup so she tries to be young and looks like a fool doing so.

Her face changes every few months. She looked good in the pictures taken in London a couple of weeks ago. I don't know when this photo shoot was done but her face looks off except in the straight ahead shots.

Careful Madge, your face is becoming dangerously close to this

R8, it didn't faze you.

Dietrich at 61 in 1962

Dietrich 1963

At Piaf's funeral, 1963

What R43 says. See Dietrich mostly was seen dealing with her age elegantly and dressing appropriately. So she could occasionally do this (1962), and it wasn't pathetic. Just an amusing reminder of everything she was and could still be.

Madonna attempts it 24/7. It's tiring.

Marlène Dietrich en répétition à l'Olympia (Paris), 1962

R38 is Lil Kim / Jocelyn Wilderstein level of insanity.

Dietrich was a crazy narcissist too but at least she wasn't trashy and stupid.

This is like the Donald and his hair. At least he's said to hell with his body.

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I am her age and she embarrasses me.

She's going to end up like Dietrich, never getting out of bed. Lourdes will have to stop by once a week to empty the bucket of pee.

She's like a female version of Stefonknee - a 50-something weirdo acting like a 5-year old girl.

+2 with r43.

So vulgar.

She should do a gig in Vegas. Sing her old hits to her old fans. Stop bothering going after the teen age market- no kid wants to pay good money to see some menopausal old lady that looks like their mother.

And those pictures of Janet make her look like Queen Latifa.

I have to wonder what Lourdes thinks of her. She must be mortified. All her friends probably have normal, frau moms. Wonder if she ever wishes one of them would adopt her. Rocco got away. When will the younger two make their escape?

Lourdes male friends at Michigan probably think for 1 second if Madonna is a MILF or too old to be a MILf, and at second 2 firmly decide that Madonna is much too old to be a MILF.

She really needs to do us and her legacy a favor and go away.

The smoking is really disturbing from someone "whose body is their temple". Still think she's great but sad for her if she's so unhappy.

She's crazier than a shithouse rat and although I'm just being an enabler, she does look good. She's not 20 but she looks good.

...and no matter what, you have to admit that her boy toy period produced some of the most enduring, perpetually catchy pop songs in our culture. You can still turn on some of those songs and they feel completely fresh.

She looks amazing here at the Beatles premiere. I don't see any pictures of a fat "pregnant" Janet Jackson there, she probably wasn't invited.

They accept a few wrinkles around the eyes but insist on the smooth face, and neck too, if possible.

[quote]...and no matter what, you have to admit that her boy toy period produced some of the most enduring, perpetually catchy pop songs in our culture. You can still turn on some of those songs and they feel completely fresh.

*snort*

A hoodie! Madonna is SO with-the-times! I accept her as hip and YOUNG!!!

A HOODIE, Y'ALL!!!!!!

R69 If "Get into the Groove" comes on, you're fighting back the urge to move and don't pretend otherwise.

I think her hand has been photoshopped. Odd.

Madonna could have been great elder-celeb if she could have taken it all in stride.

[quote][R69] If "Get into the Groove" comes on, you're fighting back the urge to move and don't pretend otherwise.

Nothing like watching a 50-year-old fat fag getting down to "Into the Groove". lmao.

Madge, talk to Helen. No, actually, listen to her. Just shut-up and listen. Surely you're now at least wise enough to do that?

[quote]—Like a surgeon

LOL. Excellent. WW for R72.

R75. YES! x 1000. Helen needs to do an intervention, stat. Perfect solution.

Helen Mirren was(is) a beautiful woman when she was young,she learned a long time ago what true beauty really means and how to live with it. Madonna was NEVER beautiful,so her insecurity has always been on display ,hence the nudity and vulgar actions etc. I loved me some Madonna back in the day,but shes been embarrassing for a very long time now .

Madonna does NOT "need" to be a clone of other old aging performers. She IS Madonna, after all.

Writing books, heading charities... she did all that shit in the Early 2000s - try to keep up.

She looks ridiculous in the grill & hoodie, but she would look even more silly trying to IMITATE what some DL Queen thinks older ladies should dress like and act like.

No one said she had to "imitate" anyone else, dear. Pay attention. MDNA can have her own style and her own passion projects, of course. But instead of desperately trying to hang on to youth with her veiny, arthritic claws, which is humiliating, she should seek to emulate the attitude, philosophy and spirit of those who have successfully traversed the rickety bridge from youth to middle age to old age with grace and elegance. The lucky ones have even greater respect and admiration (as well as opportunities---see Mirren) in their golden years than they ever enjoyed in their youth.

r39 and r40 are right about Madonna's intellectual dimness. Get your education, kids. It may not seem muck like at the time but when you are older it will be the one thing you have left of any real value.

I'm torn as to whether Madonna is or ever was bright. I think she may have been at one point and at the least had great instincts, however I think fame and wealth work to stunt a person mentally, emotionally, intellectually. Now, are those implants or just fillers in her cheeks?

R81, I'm torn on that as well. It seemed like she had some great smarts and instincts to get where she did. But if that were the case how did she fall for the Kaballah? Or is it that she really is smart but so emotionally unstable that she fell prey to them because she felt it would provide her with some kind of internal stability?

Unfortunately for Madonna, her voice is annoying and no one will listen to her music in the future.

I think I've found a pic of her that isn't Photoshopped.

I'm convinced the grill is some sort of device to close the gap in her teeth and pull her teeth closer together, sort of like Invisalign. He teeth certainly look like they've been moved a bit. I've always liked her gap, but they do appear a bit different since the grill.

I think Helen Mirren is great, but I wouldn't cite her as a beauty. She has always had a great body, and is attractive enough, but her strength is in making the most of what she does have and being sensuous with class, no matter what her age. Madonna is not so much sensuous as in your face, always has been.

r34 her rider stated she wanted three buffets! these places only offered her one :(

ugh Madonna. gross

I agree with the lack of maturity issue. Saying she should act/dress her age, follow the example set by Helen Mirren, mentor younger artists etc. is not gonna work. She doesn't have it in her. She sees HERSELF as a younger artist. She's acknowledging her immaturity and saying "I'm living my life the way I want to, in a way that feels right for me. This is how I'm wired." She has never given two fucks about what anyone's thought about her and she can afford to live any way she chooses.

And yes she's made some atrocious/embarrassing decisions that look like a meltdown, like a subtler version of Britney Spears shaving her hair off and attacking the paparazzi with an umbrella. She's totally over projecting a certain image for the public and is just letting her freak flag fly. If social media was around when she was up-and-coming we would seen this side of her all along.

Well, the sad fact is she's not relevant anymore, and none of this shit is going to make her relevant. She should just do what makes her happy. Lord knows she has enough money to say Fuck You to the world.

She does give some fucks about how people see her. If she didn't she wouldn't be so defensive.

Her Super Bowl Performance should have been her last- go out with several hundred million simultaneous viewers then call it a career.

But no. She has to continue to subject us all, and herself, to an embarrassing spectacle.

Madonna? Gross UGH!

I love her. No one else compares. Her zero fucks given was her from day one, it's nothing new. So many have come as the "New Madonna", and have gone. I love each album, tour, and each show that I go to of hers. I don't care if she's 100 In the studio and on stage, I'll be there with my $$$$$$$$ in hand, whatever the cost. And that's more than what floppy-flop Gaga has.

Sheryl Crow and Sarah MacLachlan both GAVE UP and followed the Frau/Helen Mirren "aging gracefully" clone model and are now complete nobodies in the eyes of the public.

Madonna is herself and is still Front Page News with mega-selling tours (Crow is playing the County Fairs when her kids aren't needing her help with a project for school).

It's fun to watch Madonna's antics and make fun of the grill and the fillers. But she is still being MADONNA, not the Helen Mirren-Sanitized Version of Madonna.

Mentoring younger artists??? WHY do ALL performers need to follow some SCRIPT?

Keep it REAL, Madge!

I don't think Madonna was ever smart but she was very canny.

Where is Madonna front page news anywhere? That is your fantasy

All I remember hearing about Madge over the years is that she is/was a good business woman. It was hotly debated whether she had talent, but no one ever questioned her killer business acumen. But, as we all know, having good business instincts is NOT the same thing as having a superior intellect. Not at all.

All I have heard about Madonna is that she is a royal bitch, she likes MDMA, and she and Guy Ritchie were into hiring dims and submissives. And of course she is a plastic surgery junkie, but anyone with a brain can see that.

She's morphing into late Jayne Mansfield. Only Mansfield had a sense of humor about herself.

"and no matter what, you have to admit that her boy toy period produced some of the most enduring, perpetually catchy pop songs in our culture. You can still turn on some of those songs and they feel completely fresh."

Not really. Her songs seem like relics, not "completely fresh" at all. I find a lot of them painful to listen to.

Exactly R101

She is a relic of the 80s, up there with John Hughes movies and Really Big Hair

She made good pop songs but they were just pop songs.

Haters of the Madonna should be quiet. She will always be young in spirit and even in body. That's right. She has been a fighter for sensual freedoms her whole life. The love of the Madonna spreads throughout the universe.

Young in spirit sounds like immature and bratty.

I think Madge has done a great job staying fit. At times, her face looks good, and other times, no. I really don't give a shit, because I no longer buy her music or follow her. But I find it really fucked up that she is always criticized about her age inappropriate attire, style, behavior, while Mick Jagger, and countless other men (Larry King comes to mind) have a lot less criticism, when they behave in ways that are divergent to their expected social norms for men their age.

Oh FFS, false equivalency. Larry King and Mick Jagger aren't wearing hip hop hoodies and ghetto grills. They aren't going off on twitter rants like attention starved 16 y/o kids.

I can't tell if people like r94, r95, and r103 are being funny or not. Or if they are all really the same person.

I enjoy making fun of her plastic surgery and embarassing attempts to stay young, as I'm sure do a lot of people. So I'm grateful to her for that, and most certainly don't want her to stop.

Helen Mirren was certainly not considered a beauty in her younger years. I will never forget the late Joan Rivers remarking that she was needed to do something about the "warts" on her face during the red carpet coverage for the Golden Globes back in the early/mid 90s.

She was out and out plain in The Mosquito Coast(in which she played Harrison Ford's wife) an nothing special in White Nights with Baryshnikov in '85. Therefore the comparison with Madge is not that far fetched. Neither was a natural born beauty.

Helen Mirren has become the go to example of how great women in their 50s-60s can look if they maintain a great figure and keep it chic and elegant. I just don't think Madonna even understands that concept. Has she ever looked "elegant?" The right stylist could get her close though, and she really needs to give it a shot. Otherwise she IS going to be what Mae West was in the 70s. A jokey old former bombshell.

Madonna's audience simply outgrew her. The teenage girls from the mid '80s are now 50 and the gay club boys of the early 2000s are around 35. For the most part, her fan base grew up and moved on to other things. Her would-be fan base of the next generation didn't materialize because there were other singers doing the same thing who weren't in their Mom's CD collection. It's happened with every musician - if they don't mature with their fan base, eventually they become nothing more than a nostalgia act because the new audience doesn't care. Plenty of 40- and -50-year-olds will see Madonna in concert because she may have been fun and reminds them if their youth but I doubt they have much interest in whatever she's doing next.

Her fingers are plumped up with Radiesse in the OP's pic. She got the note about her skelator hands. Radiesse is improved for hands now. Those sausage fingers on her aren't natural. It's funny that her palm got blurred out - either intentionally or ... who knows.

I meant it is "approved" for hand use... not improved.

She doesn't need to create new music. She could still make a lot of money from just touring. A lot of people who don't even like her music will go to her concerts because a Madonna show is considered an "event."

Other women a little older are still successfully touring regularly: Stevie Nicks (going out in a few months with the Pretenders), Heart, Cher (unless her last tour really was a farewell tour).

[quote]Even Tina Turner could be sexy in her 40s and 50s and keep her dignity.

[bold]Even[/bold] Tina Turner? Ms Turner has done dignified sexiness for decades.

she looks like Faye Dunaway...yikes

Close ups of Madonna's crinkly, badly eczematoid fingers are some of the scariest things ever!

Again, why does Madonna "need" to go glam? She did that in the Early 200os with her silly books and English accent. She did that in 1996-1997 with "Evita" promotion. She's DONE it. She doesn't "need" to follow Helen Mirren's Script For Old Ladies.

Madonna has DONE glamorous photo shoots and sleek dresses and high class elegance several times throughout her career. She doesn't "need" to be a Helen Mirren Clone.

Stevie Nicks, Cher, Chrissie Hynde... All still following their own paths with their own unique styles. I guess they all need to put on designer gowns and sing show tunes in order to successfully transform into Proper Old Ladies a la La Mirren.

FFS, R117. Give it up. You admitted it yourself. You mention several people who are NOT anything like Helen Mirren and yet they STILL have their own style and are writing their own script in an sensible, mature way to remain relevant, admired and respected into their 70's. None of these women are acting like teenage ghetto thugs.

From my vantage, she is not gracefully aging into anything

Showing your old ass at the Met Ball is her shtick

Her music gets worse every year

r95

[quote]Keep it REAL, Madge!

Yeah, photoshopped hands and all!

She will be perfect for playing Norma Desmond or Baby Jane Hudson.

I guess you didn't see Mick Jagger in his Hello Kitty bikini and slippers.

Yes, R121, either would be fabulous. Not THAT would be a way for her to show that she doesn't take herself too seriously, while affording her an opportunity to take on a juicy role. She's never been one to be able to poke fun at herself though. Too bad. It could work so well in her favor.

She is vulgar.

MANdonna has done a stadium tour ONCE in her career. That was the Sticky and Sweet tour. Before that tour, like Janet, she would play arenas in the US, and some stadiums outside the states. The MDNA tour played stadiums abroad, but mostly arenas in the states. The Rebel Heart tour was ARENAS only.

Most people had written Queen Janet off, and said she would never play arenas again, and she made that happen with the Unbreakable tour, even playing a Stadium sized venue in Japan (The Saitama Super Arena... look it up) on THIS tour.

and...

weep...

bitches...

Enough with the Janet Jackson shit. She's a nobody who barely ever was.

White people really don't age well, and Madonna is doing it worse than most.

[quote]Enough with the Janet Jackson shit. She's a nobody who barely ever was.

LOL, clearly you've been under a rock for the last 30 years.

R130 She is not white. She is Italian, French and distant Spanish

She'll never age as well as me!

[quote]She is Italian, French and distant Spanish

i.e., white.

R134 Nope. Only Anglo-Saxons are white.

Oh no. Someone opened the door for the JanLangeBot. It is a vicious hack once it gets in the system

(R126) How sweet, Janbot thinks we really care about Janice J(whatever).

Didn't Janet have her miracle baby? I thought Janbot would be too busy to check DL, being that she's so busy sending over flower arrangements to Saudi Arabia for Janet's new arrival.

Madge makes me sad because I know there really is no hope once you hit 50, if you are really fair skinned as she is. And I am too. With how well she's taken care of herself (no booz or drugs. clean diet) and all the money in the world for the best surgeons, she should look great, but she still looks like crap.

Madonna's lookalike YOUNGER sister Melanie offers several clues to how Madonna might have aged sans surgery:

And Here:

Go to YouTube and watch some of your favorite Madonna music videos from the 80s and 90s. It will provide irrefutable evidence she's become a fucking pathetic joke.

I watched Like a Virgin, Deeper and Deeper, Open Your Heart to Me, Material Girl, Secret, Frozen and others. She really had "it" and now she's tragically trying to keep up with girls 3 times younger than her.

[quote] This is why I’m against all forms of invasive ‘anti-ageing’ procedures. Too many women (and men) regardless of age, do not know when to stop. I keep saying this, they don’t look younger, they just look as if they’ve had work done.

I can see HOW it happens though. That first shot of Botox melts away the years and you look fresher, a better version of yourself – isn’t that what we all want?

But then you begin to find fault with other parts of your face. Along with your next needle (needles!) of Botox, you might want to tackle that thin upper lip, or those drooping cheeks – And so the cycle begins.

Know when to stop before you become a caricature.

Every time I see a pic of Madonna, it's like she's done something else to her face. Does she get new procedures on a weekly basis now?

The problem is these fillers take so long to dissolve completely, there can be days when it doesn't look like there's anything there, then it can swell again. No question things can get messy under the surface with repeated injections.... If there was rehab center for chronic filler addiction (Madonna, Meg Ryan, Nicole Kidman) they would literally need to kept away from injectables for five years or more so all the chemicals can dissolve away.

I'm getting a Jocelyn Wildenstein aka "Catwoman" vibe from that pic @ R143.

Dietrich held up beautifully, and she was a chain-smoking alcoholic! It's just all in the genes with some people.

What worked for her in her 40s -- plastic surgery, diet and exercise -- is just making her look worse now. Menopause probably didn't help matters.

This is the Madonna that I will always love and cherish.

r139 it's so funny you mentioned that because a friend and I were just talking about how Madonna and Tom Cruise both prove that after 50 it's just over, no matter what you do. Here are two people who have the money for the best cosmetic surgeons and dermatologists in the world, they never got into drugs or drinking, and they've always been healthy eaters and exercise fiends. And guess what? They STILL look old and busted. You might as well just have those drinks and eat those cheeseburgers because there's nothing that can be done after a certain age.

Sad ass thread of sad asses.

So many people get normal, conservative, facelifts and look good. My friend's grandmother did this around 65 and looked incredible. It wasn't just anti-aging, but she looked happier and healthier. Tens of thousands of facelifts are done every year, often with some *small* amount of fat grafting for lost volume (not the 10 tons of fat she has had injected).

If Madonna would've just stayed on the conservative path (which stars seem unable to do) then she would've looked better - plain and simple. It appears she is either dictating her delusional needs to a surgeon who won't say no - or she is going to one of the over-the-top surgeons. Kenny Rogers and Burt Reynolds and Meg Ryan, and Melanie Griffith have all given facial surgery a very visible bad name.

Normal everyday patients, however, are another story. I realize the smiling is different in the two pics, but you can still tell the change is normal and natural. I picked this somewhat randomly - the point being there's nothing wrong with facial rejuvenation for the average person. She lost it a long time ago. Even her brother quipped "maybe they shouldn't have pulled it all so tight" in an interview. He's right.

One more for fun... this is a good surgeon doing proper facial rejuvenation work.

It boggles my mind why stars, with infinite money, cannot achieve this.

Some big stars can be unbelievably rude, vain and idiotic to cosmetic surgery staff, like they're God's gift therefore don't need to put their ego's aside long enough for the surgeon's to see them as anything but big bags of money (cough*Kartrashians)

Those two do look good. Maybe it all goes bad when you try to look 25 instead of just a healthier, fresher 50. I also think Madge's low fat diet, touted to be "healthy" for decades, is actually not healthy at all. We need fat---lots of it. What we can not metabolize is sugar and carbs.

You fit right in r151

There are fair skinned women who can and do age well. Think of Dina Merrill. If you are under 55, Google her.

The sister actually looks better. She's pretty wash and wear, but with a blowout and a little makeup and more flattering glasses she could look downright elegant. Sadly they look a lot alike, but Madonna has had so much work done she's barely recognizable now. It reminds me of a remark Margit Kidder once made along the lines of the problem with being a woman in the business isn't all the dumb blondes setting the tone but all the smart women who should know better who still get sucked into that mindset. Probably the best thing Melanie has going for her is she hasn't spent the last 30 years in a millieu where aging is akin to death.

[quote]Here are two people who have the money for the best cosmetic surgeons and dermatologists in the world, they never got into drugs or drinking

Never got into drugs? Not only did Madonna used to smoke (a lot), but she also partook in various drugs in her earlier days. She also drinks, and has gone out on stage recently half-lit. Don't let that yoga-new age shit fool you.

MARY R149!

One thing that boggles my mind is she got a facelift that ruined her hairline. I thought those went out of style decades ago. R152, I can totally see Madonna telling plastic surgeons the kind of work she wants done and not listening to her advice.

Fighting ageism by making the worst music of career as she gets older. I guess that beats making great albums that no one hears because of your age

She should have called it quits with the heavy duty work circa 2007 and just continued with basic maintenance. She was stunning at the Academy Awards that year.

Yasmin Le Bon and her hubby Simon from Duran Duran look great and I believe Simon is Madonna's age.

Is it part of her act to post like an embittered 14 year old?

She's worried she'll be sacrificed next by the cabal responsible for her fame, hence the sudden blitzkrieg on social media. She wants to make it past the age of 58 (5+8=13), a number which has esoteric meaning in their and her belief system . It's insurance; as long as she's having her public hissy fit, they won't try to fuck (with) her (see Amanda Bynes, Bill Cosby & Brad Pitt). The average citizen cannot fathom how scary the real world is.

r163, I agree she looked stunning at that event.

But part of the deal there was that she was indeed trying to look like a glamorous star, not like a ratchet teenager.

Yes, she does look good there in 2007. She's reflecting the image we have all suggested would be best for her: age appropriate, elegant, mature but still beautiful.....the envy of every other woman HER OWN AGE.

The most important thing for older stars to remember is to never compete with younger women. That's a game you can't win, so don't even play. Take yourself out of that race. Stop playing checkers and learn how to play chess by 1.) out classing everyone else and 2.) making sure you look better than 99% of women your own age.

You're welcome!

[quote] Madonna has tried to be as cool as Dolly Parton her whole life, and has failed miserably.

Indeed. Dolly sings better songs (some of which she actually writes), makes better movies, and is much nicer to her fans.

r168 that's how they should do it. Look at past divas like Katharine Hepburn and Marlene Dietrich. They had an age-appropriate look and it worked wonders for them. In fact, when we think of Hepburn our popular image of her is when she was an older woman, not when she was young.

Lady Gaga WISHES she looked like this. MADONNA QUEEN OF POP

R171 = the fetid cunted BUMP TROLL.

This happened YEARS AGO, numbnuts.

This happened YEARS AGO, numbnuts.

This happened YEARS AGO, numbnuts.

This happened YEARS AGO, numbnuts.

This happened YEARS AGO, numbnuts.

This happened YEARS AGO, numbnuts.

This happened YEARS AGO, numbnuts.

This happened YEARS AGO, numbnuts.

This happened YEARS AGO, numbnuts.

This happened YEARS AGO, numbnuts.

This happened YEARS AGO, numbnuts.

This happened YEARS AGO, numbnuts.

This happened YEARS AGO, numbnuts.

Madonna is furious that Gaga won the first-ever TRICON Award last night and gave a thrilling performance. Do the younger generations even know who Madonna is anymore?

This performance is what Madonna tried to do with the Madame X tour but failed.