Executions were carried out in two Iraqi cities over the weekend
" ISIS has branded LGBTI people ‘the worst of all creatures.’
The jihadist group executed nine men and a boy accused of being gay in Syria last month and claimed responsibility for the killings of at least 30 other gay men. "
by Anonymous | reply 1 | October 5, 2015 3:51 PM |
And those are only the ones they are able to report about. Wonder how many gay executions go unreported?
by Anonymous | reply 2 | October 5, 2015 3:52 PM |
Isn't it that Russia is already attacking ISIS?
How come they are still doing this?
by Anonymous | reply 3 | October 5, 2015 3:57 PM |
It should be noted that in the Middle East, accusing someone of being "gay" is sometimes used as an excuse to get rid of rival clan members as well as settling personal and power disputes.
by Anonymous | reply 4 | October 5, 2015 3:58 PM |
When did they start using i at the end of LGBT?
by Anonymous | reply 5 | October 5, 2015 4:00 PM |
R3 Russia is not attacking DAESH. Russia is attacking those who are a direct threat to al Assad.
by Anonymous | reply 6 | October 5, 2015 4:02 PM |
Religion will cause the WW III.
Islam and Christianity on the same boat since both promote inequality and the supremacy of their religion.
by Anonymous | reply 7 | October 5, 2015 4:04 PM |
R7 No dear... Islam and Christianity are not in the same boat.
Take a look at the state human rights in every Muslim majority country in the world. Look at the rights of women and gays for starters.
THAT is Islam.
by Anonymous | reply 8 | October 5, 2015 4:09 PM |
They were just following their conscience.
by Anonymous | reply 9 | October 5, 2015 4:16 PM |
Yes, R6 is right. Russia is attacking the western-backed rebels.
Because of its support for Israel the US cannot support the Assad regime. But if course it also can't support DAESH. So it supports the very marginal non-Fundie rebel groups who stand virtually no chance of defeating either Assad or DAESH.
And of course the rest of the West follows suit.
The Russians sensed weakness and struck. In doing so they support an ally, embarrass the USA and reassert themselves as an international military presence. Win-win-win.
The only way for the west to retaliate would be to bomb Assad and that would be idiotic -- threatening to escalate conflict with Russia, but more importantly, allowing DAESH to gain more ground. The Russians realize this.
It's really the stupid policy of the US that we are suffering from right now, thanks to the stranglehold that supporters of Israel have on US foreign policy.
by Anonymous | reply 10 | October 5, 2015 4:23 PM |
[quote]Religion will cause the WW III.
Yes, the religion known as Mammonism, the worship of money and power.
by Anonymous | reply 11 | October 5, 2015 4:30 PM |
[quote]Because of its support for Israel the US cannot support the Assad regime.
Rubbish! The US had no problem supporting Hafez al Assad and his brutal aspirations for decades.
The West has been supporting the rebels who started the civil war 5 years ago, not Assad. Russia is looking to make nice with Iran and its old ally and Iran client Syria, therefore Russia is more interested in bombing the rebels threatening Assad than DAESH.
by Anonymous | reply 12 | October 5, 2015 4:37 PM |
Funny how Putin did more to smash ISIS in one week than the US military has done in over a year. It's amazing what you can accomplish when you actually want to accomplish something.
by Anonymous | reply 13 | October 5, 2015 4:40 PM |
R13 Putin is not hintered by democratic processes or Gulf politics. He's a dictator, doing whatever the fuck he wants; ergo, more effective.
by Anonymous | reply 14 | October 5, 2015 4:45 PM |
[quote]Rubbish! The US had no problem supporting Hafez al Assad and his brutal aspirations for decades.
That's complete nonsense, of course. The US has in fact lent support to Israeli military operations against Assad and has never given Syria a penny in support.
by Anonymous | reply 15 | October 5, 2015 5:09 PM |
[quote]Putin is not hintered by democratic processes or Gulf politics. He's a dictator, doing whatever the fuck he wants; ergo, more effective.
Putin is demonstrating the same Shock and Awe tactics in Syria that the USA unleashed in Iraq. We could smash ISIS in Syria if we wanted to. That we have not done so is evidence that we do not wish to do so. We could have eradicated the poppy crop/heroin trade in Afghanistan twelve years ago if we really wanted to fight a War on Drugs.
by Anonymous | reply 16 | October 5, 2015 5:12 PM |
BOTH Assads in fact.
The US gave enormous logistical aid to Israel in 1973, and gave intelligence support to Israel for its airstrike in 2007.
by Anonymous | reply 17 | October 5, 2015 5:12 PM |
R8 Are you aware that it is because of christianity and christians that LGBT people have been oppressed, denied rights and persecuted to death in the West, right?
Both Islam and Christianity are incompatible with an egalitarian society.
by Anonymous | reply 18 | October 5, 2015 5:13 PM |
[quote]Funny how Putin did more to smash ISIS in one week than the US military has done in over a year.
What's the evidence of that? The Russian air strikes aren't even aimed primarily at DAESH.
The western air strikes have not destroyed DAESH but they have struck a major blow against them both militarily and economically.
by Anonymous | reply 19 | October 5, 2015 5:15 PM |
Jesus Christ (he says ironically) what the hell does DAESH mean and when did it become the new name?
by Anonymous | reply 20 | October 5, 2015 5:28 PM |
They did not execute gay men - they murdered them.
by Anonymous | reply 22 | October 5, 2015 5:46 PM |
I thought it meant "Douchebag Arabs Exterminating Sensible Humans"
by Anonymous | reply 23 | October 5, 2015 5:52 PM |
Kind of like the way the USAF murdered 19 or more people, including three children, in a hospital in Afghanistan last week.
by Anonymous | reply 24 | October 5, 2015 5:53 PM |
Yeah R24, it is just exactly like that.
by Anonymous | reply 25 | October 5, 2015 6:00 PM |
Its like when there's no more Ben & Jerry's Karamel Sutra at the mini-mart and I want to cut a bitch.
by Anonymous | reply 26 | October 5, 2015 6:03 PM |
Obama and his red line will cost us for decades. He's a sad boy trying to do a man's job.
by Anonymous | reply 27 | October 5, 2015 6:22 PM |
What was the adult thing to do then, R27? Enlighten us.
by Anonymous | reply 28 | October 5, 2015 6:53 PM |
Maybe should have stayed out of it completely and forced mighty and rich mid-eastern countries to figure it the fuck out, or not. Their problem. However I suppose the Mid-east powers just see it as a Russian and American problem.
by Anonymous | reply 29 | October 5, 2015 6:56 PM |
R29 are you also R27?
by Anonymous | reply 30 | October 5, 2015 7:02 PM |
no i am not 27
by Anonymous | reply 31 | October 5, 2015 7:05 PM |
No proof that any of these gen were gay, this is a propaganda war also and executing gay men will appeal to the arab masses. They threw men off a building they had in custody, who knows if they were gay or not.
by Anonymous | reply 32 | October 5, 2015 7:11 PM |
True, R32. The state of Oklahoma is on the verge of executing a man in spite of evidence that came to light years after his conviction that may exonerate him. The "mass appeal" of the death penalty in the USA makes it painfully hard to push for clemency in cases where guilt is not clearly proven.
by Anonymous | reply 33 | October 5, 2015 7:16 PM |
Op is just a plant..trying to get people all riled up and calling for war. Don't fall for it.
by Anonymous | reply 34 | October 5, 2015 7:23 PM |
How does Ilsam operate to create psychopaths?
by Anonymous | reply 35 | October 5, 2015 8:12 PM |
And yet some retards on here will still defend these disgusting Mooslims and call you racist if you don't like them, even after all the gays they've murdered.
by Anonymous | reply 36 | October 5, 2015 10:21 PM |
From the quran:
Quran (2:191-193) - "And kill them wherever you find them, and turn them out from where they have turned you out. And Al-Fitnah [disbelief or unrest] is worse than killing... but if they desist, then lo! Allah is forgiving and merciful. And fight them until there is no more Fitnah [disbelief and worshipping of others along with Allah] and worship is for Allah alone. But if they cease, let there be no transgression except against Az-Zalimun (the polytheists, and wrong-doers, etc.)"
by Anonymous | reply 37 | October 5, 2015 10:38 PM |
Frankly, I think it's just convenient to call these men gay I doubt most of them were. Just psychos trying to create fear.
R36, that's "Muslims", dear. Are you some hillbilly? IS doesn't really care about religion they are just homicidal, power hungry psychos like all would be dictators. They attract disenfranchised young men. I was reading the other day that a lot of the kids are getting there and wanting to leave but can't. Too bad they were not smarter.
by Anonymous | reply 38 | October 5, 2015 10:41 PM |
R38 = Retarded MOOSLIM apologist
by Anonymous | reply 39 | October 5, 2015 10:44 PM |
R38 has seized the raging idiot prize.
by Anonymous | reply 40 | October 5, 2015 10:44 PM |
ISIS DOES care about their religion. They are destroying all pagan monuments and reliques because they were not built for Allah.
by Anonymous | reply 41 | October 5, 2015 10:49 PM |
They may care a bit R41 but they care more about power and being feared. Unfortunately, the only really successful way to do that is to crush the religious zealots like Hussein did.
by Anonymous | reply 42 | October 5, 2015 10:55 PM |
Turn the whole fucking region to glass. Kill them all, fucking useless eaters.
by Anonymous | reply 43 | October 5, 2015 11:55 PM |
[quote]The US has in fact lent support to Israeli military operations against Assad and has never given Syria a penny in support.
WRONG! Syria was obligated a total of $107M from the United States government in 2012, an increase of 75% from last year's aid ($26.8M).
by Anonymous | reply 44 | October 6, 2015 4:26 AM |
If Islam is a religion of peace why aren't muslims extremely peaceful?
by Anonymous | reply 45 | October 6, 2015 4:28 AM |
For the same reason that half the Christians in the USA own guns, R45, and for the same reason that "God's Chosen People" in the Holy Land think they need nuclear weapons to defend their "Promised Land" just in case God doesn't really care if they live there or not.
by Anonymous | reply 46 | October 6, 2015 4:33 AM |
R46 I haven't seen any Christians doing things like this.
by Anonymous | reply 47 | October 6, 2015 4:47 AM |
The point, R47, is that Christ presumably would not have instructed his followers to stockpile weapons that kill. Christians are to forgive their enemies and turn the other cheek and to love all mankind as their brethren.
by Anonymous | reply 48 | October 6, 2015 4:54 AM |
Stuff happens.
by Anonymous | reply 49 | October 6, 2015 5:01 AM |
Mike huckleberry and Rick Santorum would do the exact same thing to gays if they could.
by Anonymous | reply 50 | October 6, 2015 5:05 AM |
That's all well and good, r48, but nothing in Christianity demands that you not defend yourself against those that would harm you or your family.
You can argue about whether a "stockpile" of weapons is necessary for that purpose, but owning weapons capable of killing people is not the same as actually doing it.
You can murder someone by tossing them off a building. No weapon necessary.
by Anonymous | reply 51 | October 6, 2015 5:05 AM |
What fuckwits like R46 and others comparing US Xtians to Islam are ignorant of is that in the US, there still exists the rule of law, and there are laws and legal mechanisms protecting the individual. In tribal Muslim societies, the individual has no protection, and the only rule of law is the one with the gun.
by Anonymous | reply 52 | October 6, 2015 5:14 AM |
Remember the inquisition?
That's what happens when Abrahamic religions take over.
by Anonymous | reply 53 | October 6, 2015 5:33 AM |
[quote] Are you aware that it is because of christianity and christians that LGBT people have been oppressed, denied rights and persecuted to death in the West, right? Both Islam and Christianity are incompatible with an egalitarian society.
R18 What on earth are you babbling about? In the end, the countries with THE MOST egalitarian societies, the most gay rights are those with majority Christian populations and leaders who identify as Christian. Separation of Church and state is NOT an Islamic concept.
by Anonymous | reply 54 | October 6, 2015 10:45 AM |
This is what would happen if we had gun control in America.
by Anonymous | reply 55 | October 6, 2015 11:17 AM |
[quote] Remember the inquisition? That's what happens when Abrahamic religions take over.
Wrong! That's what happened when the CATHOLIC CHURCH took over.
by Anonymous | reply 56 | October 6, 2015 11:24 AM |
The catholic church is a branch of Abrahamic religions, R56
by Anonymous | reply 57 | October 6, 2015 12:34 PM |
Actually r19 they've have factored western attacks into their plans and one of those plans is to flood Europe with "migrants" in their plans to conquer Europe before moving on to America.
by Anonymous | reply 58 | October 6, 2015 1:05 PM |
R57 The ONLY Abrahamic religion that started and perpetuated the Inquisition for 500 years was the Catholic Church.
by Anonymous | reply 59 | October 6, 2015 1:09 PM |
R58 DAESH does not need "migrants" to conquer Europe. There are thousands of European Muslims pursuing jihad, fighting for DAESH in Syria and Iraq.
by Anonymous | reply 60 | October 6, 2015 1:11 PM |
[quote] Frankly, I think it's just convenient to call these men gay I doubt most of them were.
Right r38, they were bisexual.
by Anonymous | reply 61 | October 6, 2015 1:43 PM |
What is Daesh briefly explained?
by Anonymous | reply 62 | October 6, 2015 1:47 PM |
Iraq. Yet, America gets the most hate by the morons on these boards.
Peace, love and understanding! "Religion of peace"!
by Anonymous | reply 63 | October 6, 2015 2:59 PM |
If the CIA ever decides to show us someone actually hitting the ground or actually dying hanging, then we might believe their pathetic propaganda crap.
by Anonymous | reply 64 | October 6, 2015 3:40 PM |
R64 Are you serious? These news sites show clips because of the sensitivity of their audience. The full videos are everywhere, online if you can stomach them. Yes, this is real.
by Anonymous | reply 65 | October 6, 2015 3:56 PM |
where are they? Please show us!
by Anonymous | reply 66 | October 6, 2015 4:41 PM |
I hate Fuckabee and Santorum with the heat of a thousand suns, but I do not believe that they would KILL gay men if they could. Neither do I believe that Xtian fundies would destroy ancient historical artifacts because they contradict the teachings and history of Xtianity.
Face it, the Islamic extremists, particularly those from SA and its geographical neighbors are worse than Xtians.
by Anonymous | reply 67 | October 6, 2015 4:54 PM |
R67 Speaks sanity. There's "obnoxiously opinionated, with opinions that I disagree with" and there's "trying to kill me and annihilate my people's culture". They are not the same thing.
by Anonymous | reply 68 | October 6, 2015 4:55 PM |
R67 Thank you! That's all I wanted to see on here, for a moment: Some honesty. Yes, there are obnoxious, superior Christians out there with a superiority complex. But Islamists want to murder gay people. These are not the same things.
Speak truth to power, even if that power is an activist who is tongue-tied by PC limitations.
by Anonymous | reply 69 | October 6, 2015 4:58 PM |
Deniers on here have been so numbed by PC, SJW indoctrination that they'd rather pretend these videos don't really exist, even though tons of Islamic leaders have personally declared that The Quran does call for the death of homosexuals.
by Anonymous | reply 70 | October 6, 2015 5:00 PM |
How about the US evangelical church behind the promotion of death penalty for homosexual people in Uganda and other places in Africa?
Do you doubt that if Christianity had total control of a country it would be hard to pass laws to kill LGBT people?
by Anonymous | reply 71 | October 6, 2015 5:33 PM |
[quote]Do you doubt that if Christianity had total control of a country it would be hard to pass laws to kill LGBT people?
Yes.
by Anonymous | reply 72 | October 6, 2015 5:38 PM |
R71 No, a handful of independent crazies that are in no way representative of any, Christian doctrine -- while they should be shunned and publicly condemned -- are not responsible for people in Africa finding excuses to kill gay people. Unless, of course, you consider Africans mindless, sub-humans.
Islam demands this, The Quran does, The Islamic Clerics that are the head of Islamic theocracies and The Muslim Brotherhood (the one always calling Israel evil) demand this and some Muslims follow religious law while others do not.
by Anonymous | reply 73 | October 6, 2015 5:40 PM |
R71 Stop fabricating false equivalencies, to get Islamists off the hook for killing gay people for being gay.
by Anonymous | reply 74 | October 6, 2015 5:42 PM |
Inquisition. That word says it all.
Abrahamic religions create people with superiority complex. They despise you all, homosexuals. Open your eyes.
by Anonymous | reply 75 | October 6, 2015 5:47 PM |
R75 To what? The "glory" of Islam?
No religion, in The World, is like Islam nor produces followers like Islam does.
by Anonymous | reply 76 | October 6, 2015 5:48 PM |
R8, the rights of women and gays are better in countries with Christian populations solely because liberal democracies were created as a reaction against Christian law.
Islam never went through an enlightenment period like Christianity did-- during which there was a mass rejection of the strict tenets of the religion.
by Anonymous | reply 77 | October 6, 2015 5:49 PM |
R76 "Abrahamic relgions" includes Islam because Muhammad invented islam based on the former branches.
by Anonymous | reply 78 | October 6, 2015 5:51 PM |
R73, the Christian bible also demands the killing of gays. We have just learned to reject that absurdity.
These people aren't muslims; they are conservative fanatics.
Do you think for a second that if the US didn't criminalize murder, the right wing evangelicals wouldn't do the same thing to gays?
by Anonymous | reply 79 | October 6, 2015 5:51 PM |
Yes, it's the three main Abrahamic religions and their spreading around the world via British, French, and Portuguese imperialism that has caused this crazy animosity towards gays.
Hinduism, Buddhism, Shintoism, etc preach no such hatred.
by Anonymous | reply 80 | October 6, 2015 5:54 PM |
R78 "Allah" is not the God of Abraham, he is the Lord of Sirius; Moon god. The Islamic Calander is based on moon cycles. Look at the imagery and learn:
by Anonymous | reply 81 | October 6, 2015 5:55 PM |
R81 Christianity is actually strongly against occult astrology.
by Anonymous | reply 82 | October 6, 2015 5:56 PM |
R82 This is not just a statement on God being master of everything. Read the Quran.
by Anonymous | reply 83 | October 6, 2015 5:57 PM |
R80 Really? Amazing, how the Catholic priest who outed himself as gay wasn't immediately hanged for it. Or that this is allowed to happen, without a death penalty, in Israel:
by Anonymous | reply 84 | October 6, 2015 5:59 PM |
Stop being a bunch of fucking cowards and call Islam out.
by Anonymous | reply 85 | October 6, 2015 5:59 PM |
R81 [calendar]
by Anonymous | reply 86 | October 6, 2015 6:00 PM |
Hmm, Buddhism doesn't seem to speak much about homosexuality, but still buddhism and hinduism have some episodes of violence of some sort.
Shintoism, on the other hand, seems to be the most peaceful of the three. As far as I know, it doesn't mention homosexuality and sexuality in general. Ancient Japanese like most ancient cultures were very tolerant of homsoexuality. It just wasn't an issue.
by Anonymous | reply 87 | October 6, 2015 6:01 PM |
R87 I am willing to include Islam alongside other, mainstream religions, even with what I consider their inadequate position on homosexuality if Islam will go through a reformation like the others, where it condemns the murder of gay people because they are gay, as immoral: Under a "thou shalt not kill" type directive.
by Anonymous | reply 88 | October 6, 2015 6:03 PM |
Could someone please post the passages of the quran that speak against us?
by Anonymous | reply 89 | October 6, 2015 6:06 PM |
I bumped into this news but there is a little pic of another news about ISIS killing people and the picture is too explicit. I can't believe what is happening in the world.
by Anonymous | reply 90 | October 6, 2015 6:55 PM |
R80
[quote]Yes, it's the three main Abrahamic religions and their spreading around the world via British, French, and Portuguese imperialism that has caused this crazy animosity towards gays.
Funny isn't it: all of the countries with legalized gay marriage are majority (by a WIDE margin) Christian. And the majority also happen to be majority Catholic.
So where's the prosecution?
Now tell us about the majority Muslim countries....
by Anonymous | reply 91 | October 6, 2015 7:10 PM |
R91 The inconvenient truth.
by Anonymous | reply 92 | October 6, 2015 7:21 PM |
With one little though BIG detail, R91 Most of those countries have separated religion from the state. You wouldn't be telling the same story if those countries were passing laws according to the bible (theocracry).
by Anonymous | reply 93 | October 6, 2015 7:21 PM |
R93 Answer his question. You are purposefully avoiding the massive, Islamic elephant in this conversation. This is enabling.
by Anonymous | reply 94 | October 6, 2015 7:24 PM |
R94 My position is that all Abrahamic religions (that includes Islam) are backwards, totally incompatible with a more peaceful and egalitarian society based on rational thinking that learns from facts (science) and not giving mythology the status of "truth".
by Anonymous | reply 95 | October 6, 2015 7:31 PM |
R95 It is a foolish position because as R91 pointed out, all of the most advanced countries with the most human rights protections, are full of Christians and/or Jews and unofficial, National values are based on these value and morality systems; they ALLOWED there to be that separation. That is impossible, if you are truly following The Quran.
by Anonymous | reply 96 | October 6, 2015 7:41 PM |
No one is denying that there are some extreme kooks in Xtianity. There are plenty. BUT, they truly are in the margins. That is the primary difference between them and Islam. Nowhere in the bible does anyone call for the extermination of gay men. And no matter how socially retarded and backwards Xtians may be, very very few believe in killing abortion doctors and even fewer would support killing gay men. I cannot believe that I am writing anything which smacks of a defensive posture of Xtianity, but god dammit, the truth is the truth. Compared to radical Islam, 99% of the Xtian fundies in this country seem sane in comparison. I'll give you a crude example: I had an old racist backwards ass grandmother who hated everyone and everything which did not conform to her limited world view socially and politically. But even SHE conceded that without gay men and black people our culture and arts would suffer terribly. Have you ever heard a Mullah or Imam say such a thing about great artists/musicians/thinkers who were gay?
by Anonymous | reply 97 | October 6, 2015 7:41 PM |
R96 Please, read my answer ---> R93
by Anonymous | reply 98 | October 6, 2015 7:47 PM |
With the exception of Leviticus 20:13, R97
If christians were the state things would be very similar to how things are in the Middle East for homosexual people. They would certainly pass laws based on Leviticus to kill two men or two women who have slept together. Following this direction, any display of same-sex affection would be banned and punished in some way if observed. That would mean that you would have to stay in the closet for safety purposes making all those arounD you believe you are heterosexual denying and repressing your natural need for affection and sexual bonding with someone of your own sex. No sex, no boyfriend.
Do you really think you would live a fulfilling life with christians in power? The homophobia that still remains in western societies it is because of Judeo-christianity and the same about the Middle East since Islam stems from Judeo-christianity.
Do you really think you would live a fulfilling life with christians in power?
by Anonymous | reply 99 | October 6, 2015 8:03 PM |
R99 WTF?
[quote]Do you really think you would live a fulfilling life with christians in power?
Uh...99.9% of the leaders in the US and Europe are Christian.
Are you able to understand that Christians ALLOWED ...demanded....fought for ....separation of church and state.
Got it?
by Anonymous | reply 100 | October 6, 2015 8:34 PM |
Just as we thought - there is no proof that Towels murder sisters.
by Anonymous | reply 101 | October 6, 2015 8:41 PM |
R100 Please, stop making up stories.
There's no room for gays in christianity except if you renounce to live your same-sex attraction (repression) or turn heterosexual because male and female god created them. Be fruitful and multiply.
by Anonymous | reply 102 | October 6, 2015 8:42 PM |
There are Christian denominations that conduct same-sex marriages today, R102, and there will be more in the future. Mainstream Christianity is evolving to be more inclusive -- and the day when Christian bigots suffer socially and economically for their anti-gay views is not too far away.
The same is not true of Islam.
by Anonymous | reply 103 | October 6, 2015 8:51 PM |
R102Really? And what are the consequences if you don't renounce to live your same-sex attraction (repression) or turn heterosexual?
by Anonymous | reply 104 | October 6, 2015 8:56 PM |
To those defending Christianity: you do understand that Christian culture went through a period called the Enlightenment, where it was decided that separating religious doctrine from government was a more humane way of governing? And that Islam has not gone through such a period and thus its fundamentalist crazy wing is allowed to take a horrific route that the fundamentalist crazy Christians aren't allowed to?
by Anonymous | reply 105 | October 6, 2015 9:01 PM |
R103 Yes. My parents attend a very upmarket Presbyterian church in a Northeastern city and their Minister recently married another man in the clergy. I'm not going to say that the congregation was 100% elated, but no one called for him to resign.
And, who turned this thread into a discussion of how great Xtians are or society? I thought the point was how abominable fundamental Islam is to personal freedoms? I'm no cheerleader for anything which is tied in anyway to Pat Robertson and Puke-A-Bee. But I'll take them any day of the week over the likes of the mullahs of Iran and Saudi Arabia.
by Anonymous | reply 106 | October 6, 2015 9:02 PM |
R100- to call European leaders "christian" is a misnomer, American christian leaders would consider them to be atheists. European Christianity has pretty much only the name in common with American Christianity.
by Anonymous | reply 107 | October 6, 2015 9:17 PM |
[quote]the Christian bible also demands the killing of gays.
That is the Jewish Old Testament.
The Christian New Testament doesn't instruct people to kill anyone for any reason.
by Anonymous | reply 108 | October 6, 2015 11:45 PM |
R10, US support of Israel is NOT the main reason for refusing to support Assad. He's a brutal dictator who's led to the growth of ISIS by gassing and indiscriminately murdering countless civilians. Many other Western and Mid East countries are also opposed to his continued rule.
The US gains nothing by continuing to spend huge amounts of money trying to combat ISIS. Let the Russians deal with the inevitable repercussions.
by Anonymous | reply 109 | October 7, 2015 1:08 AM |
R110 I refuse to use any sacred terms or terms of respect for Islam, either. I have no respect for this horrible religion and I absolutely will not pretend to. As an adult living in a free country, nobody is going to force me to do otherwise. It does not deserve such reverence. I will defend the humanity of Muslims but never defend this terrible religion.
by Anonymous | reply 111 | October 7, 2015 2:45 AM |
Amen R111!
by Anonymous | reply 112 | October 7, 2015 3:04 AM |
Russia is currently coordinating armed attacks on Syria and specifically on ISIS WITH Israel.
Many are questioning WHY Russia appears to be weakening ISIS so quickly, compared to long-term US efforts that have had minimal results. There have been stories the US has even indirectly supplied ISIS with food. Yes Putin doesn't care about "collateral damage." Wonder how many Syrians have "gotten out of harms' way" after reading about the coming bombing raids dropped from Russian planes. Supposedly rebels who surrendered were promised food and aid at border check points. Wonder if they dared to take the risk.
by Anonymous | reply 113 | October 7, 2015 3:09 AM |
China along with Russia appear to be the new world powers. Goodbye ISIS.
by Anonymous | reply 114 | October 7, 2015 3:36 AM |
R104, You would not be treated as an equal, you would be seen as a threat to christian values and laws would be passed to ensure the supremacy of christianity dictating the way society must be conducted.
Seriously, it is not hard to tell that LGBT people would have it even harder if we live in a christian theocracy. The bible reinforces heterosexism; not inclusion of non-heterosexual people.
Even today when religion has lost a lot of its influence on society we still see how christians try to exert their power and refuse to treat LGBT as equals: service has been denied to gay couples such as baking wedding cakes. Kim Davis, the most recent case denying marriage licence to a gay couple. Schools doing nothing to stop bullying against LGBT students, etc and etc.
The nature of all Abrahamic religions (read Islam here too) is like this. Just read the OT. The is a constant vengeful attitude from god because Hebrews were trying to build a strong identity they deemed superior to the other surrounded cultures.
by Anonymous | reply 115 | October 7, 2015 3:58 AM |
[quote]The nature of all Abrahamic religions (read Islam here too) is like this. Just read the OT. The is a constant vengeful attitude from god because Hebrews were trying to build a strong identity they deemed superior to the other surrounded cultures.
Lemme guess. You neither read nor understand Hebrew.
by Anonymous | reply 116 | October 7, 2015 4:02 AM |
R116 Let me guess. You still believe the bible is true.
by Anonymous | reply 117 | October 7, 2015 6:39 AM |
I'm reading news about ISIS being already attacked by Russians.
by Anonymous | reply 118 | October 7, 2015 6:23 PM |
It will be interesting to see how the Western world will react if Russia and China team up to defeat ISIS, when the U.S. and its allies couldn't. I presume Russia and China will feel even less hampered by human rights and world opinion matters than we were, so they actually could do it. Just flatten them.
by Anonymous | reply 119 | October 7, 2015 6:29 PM |
Islam creates organizations like ISIS. They may destroy ISIS, but then another group may form and this will go on and on.
You need to abolish Islam.
by Anonymous | reply 120 | October 7, 2015 6:38 PM |
This year's annual DL Fall Fun and Frolic Tour to the Middle-Eastern countries has been cancelled.
by Anonymous | reply 121 | October 7, 2015 6:47 PM |
[quote]You need to abolish Islam.
And just how do you propose to do that? Another Holocaust? A Holocaust multiplied by a thousand?
by Anonymous | reply 122 | October 7, 2015 9:23 PM |
Not proposing any methods to do that, R122 Just acknowledging the root of the whole problem. ISIS may be defeated, but then other groups will rise because what gives birth to these groups still exists and has tremendous power.
Abolishing Islam is certainly much more complex than defeating ISIS and I don't think anybody has come up with an idea to do that. The Middle East will continue to be problematic for a very very long time.
by Anonymous | reply 123 | October 7, 2015 9:38 PM |
Golly, R123, wouldn't it be more cost-effective to eradicate Israel? I am not advocating the eradication of Israel, but since you seem to think we need to eliminate entire religious populations from the planet, wouldn't it take far less time and effort to get rid of one little nation and its small population of millions than the whole host of Islamic nations and their over one billion followers? After all, the USA had no enemies in the Middle East until Israel was founded.
by Anonymous | reply 124 | October 7, 2015 9:52 PM |
You misunderstand, R124
I am talking about abolishing the ideology; not muslims.
What does Israel have to do with this? ISIS want to convert the whole world to Islam.
by Anonymous | reply 125 | October 7, 2015 9:59 PM |
R124 Brilliant. Eliminate the only Middle Eastern country where gays have the right to live without being murdered or bashed to appease a bunch of woman-beating, child-raping, gay-killing camel jockeys.
by Anonymous | reply 126 | October 8, 2015 3:19 AM |
The Likudniks in Israel helped the Neocons do 9/11, R126. The evidence is overwhelming.
by Anonymous | reply 127 | October 8, 2015 4:30 AM |
R127's tin hat is on way too tight.
by Anonymous | reply 128 | October 8, 2015 4:32 AM |
Let me guess, R128, you studied propaganda arts and disinformation strategies in college.
Math and science are on the side of 9/11 truth. A bunch of war-mongering insider traders are on R128's side.
by Anonymous | reply 129 | October 8, 2015 4:38 AM |
R129 Actually, I studied logical thinking. Which provided the tools to recognize a disturbed moron.
by Anonymous | reply 130 | October 8, 2015 4:42 AM |
For a mere $2.50 you can download this well-made, thorough, and easy-to-understand fifty-page pamphlet in which the group Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth lays out the irrefutable case for 9/11 being an "inside job."
My hat is off to you, R130, if you can identify and explain the errors in logic presented therein. I wouldn't want to go up against this many experts in all the relevant fields.
by Anonymous | reply 131 | October 8, 2015 4:48 AM |
[quote]I am talking about abolishing the ideology; not muslims.
You can't "abolish" the ideology without "abolishing" the people, since they are one and the same. Islam re-enforced tribal social structures and was therefore readily integrated into what already existed. The ideology confirmed to its followers that they could be hate-filled, misogynist, homo-hating, and blood thirsty and Allah would be with them.
by Anonymous | reply 132 | October 8, 2015 4:51 AM |
R131 You're a raving lunatic, who does not need yet another poster to disprove what has been disproven on the many other threads on which you've posted the exact same horseshit.
by Anonymous | reply 133 | October 8, 2015 4:52 AM |
There is something really grotesque about refusing to acknowledge how fundamentally anti-social Islam is, by bringing up some random crackpot pretending to be Christian to deflect blame from the actual culprits in this scenario, even though Christianity specifically condemns such hate and violence and Christian leaders and the overwhelming majority of global Christians condemn and protest it.
Face it. There is something wrong with Islam. This thread is not about searching for obscure crazies who call themselves Christian, this is about what is wrong with the core tenets of Islam, Islamic leadership around The World and the, either, approval or complacency of Muslims around the globe who look the other way or try to justify what's happening in Islam's name.
This is a global epidemic of collapsing, Islamic legitimacy -- everywhere -- based on, both, the terrible values of the religion and the terrible actions of its adherents; values that are fundamentally incompatible with humanity.
by Anonymous | reply 135 | October 8, 2015 11:14 AM |
Judeo-christianity and that includes Islam are problematic.
by Anonymous | reply 136 | October 8, 2015 4:52 PM |
If you live in the "West," Judeo-Christianity is at the foundation of all its values, regardless of whether they have become secularized over time. Among those are respect for one's individual worth and his or her own responsibility before the Almighty.
Islam approaches the question of the proper relationship of humans to the Supreme Deity from a whole different angle. You either follow the dictates of the Koran and Surahs to the letter or you are subject to enslavement or death.
by Anonymous | reply 137 | October 8, 2015 6:18 PM |
R137 "Free Will" is huge in Christianity. Islam means "submission".
by Anonymous | reply 138 | October 8, 2015 6:19 PM |
Thank you R135. and R137.
Glad to see some truthful, intellectually honest and sensible posts around here.
by Anonymous | reply 139 | October 8, 2015 9:01 PM |
[quote]You're a raving lunatic,
And you are a deliberate bonehead who couldn't pass a high school physics class.
by Anonymous | reply 140 | October 8, 2015 9:05 PM |
They seem to have a shocking amount of disrespect for gay men. I wonder why.
by Anonymous | reply 141 | May 17, 2020 2:22 AM |
The only good thing about the Trump administration was their going after our leaky borders. Though, like the rest of their policies, it was mostly a fail. Either do it right or don't do it at all.
by Anonymous | reply 142 | May 17, 2020 3:05 AM |
2015? Really? What's with this troll?
by Anonymous | reply 143 | May 17, 2020 3:12 AM |
They probably deserved it.
by Anonymous | reply 144 | May 17, 2020 3:31 AM |
BARBARIC CREATURES
by Anonymous | reply 145 | May 17, 2020 3:35 AM |
It's kinda like white vigilantes and sociopathic cops killing black people without repercussions in America, amirite?
by Anonymous | reply 146 | May 17, 2020 3:40 AM |
He's been in prison for the last five years, R143.
by Anonymous | reply 147 | May 17, 2020 3:43 AM |
For the love of Allah, r141, stop bumping all these fucking 2015 threads.
by Anonymous | reply 148 | May 17, 2020 3:48 AM |
[quote]amirite?
Uh, no R146 you're wrong. There are laws protecting the individual in the US. There are no laws protecting homosexuals in Muslim countries.
by Anonymous | reply 149 | May 17, 2020 3:56 AM |
Thread is from 2015. Why? Anti-Muslim sentiment from a troll looking to stir up trouble?
Please don’t respond to this.
by Anonymous | reply 150 | May 17, 2020 3:59 AM |