Would you date a "lower class" man?

Considering how difficult it is for you to meet people without alienating them, your particularity & judgement of others is quite amusing. No one should settle, and we like what we like, but you seem to hold people to such high standards. Life is short, enjoy it while you can, OP.

OP, seek help. You need it.

Oh honey before you worry about class you'd best have some.

There are not any lower class men than you, OP.

Don't you think you should have linked the photo for those of us who weren't following the thread?

Absolutely NOT!

R5, here's the pic.

R1, What do you mean by this: "but you seem to hold people to such high standards. "

R1, Can you give me an example of where I demonstrated this?

[quote] He was wealthy but has fallen on hard times but has the ability to bounce back.

People with a lot of money can still be lower class.

[quote] he didn't find the beauty of one guy appealing

Tom Hardy does not have beauty.

[quote] Can you give me an example of where I demonstrated this?

I'm not R1, but it's your cunting threads, P/M/BR.

Oh, and I would not date a lower class man. And because I hold people to such high standards, I would also not date Thais or Filipinos or people from another major.

Who dates?? Thats my question. I thought that mating ritual was last seen in the 80s.

I dated men of all classes. Some of these men however, if not my class, I was a big exception for the them. Hottest lovers were lower middle class latinos. Yeah kind of a stereotype but there it is.

Funniest lovers were elite-educated cynics, who were in fact boot-strappers.

Chicest were French Bobos of course. Now there are lots of bobos in many countries and all bobos are pretty much insufferable.

I hate the whole human race because of bigoted idiots like what is described here.

R10, I never said do not date thais, and filipinos . However, I know that I am very judgmental, and demand more than is deserving of my current condition in life, which is probably why I am a loser for so many years...haha...I don't ask for too much, but what I'm asking is considered too much for my ability.

"Tom Hardy does not have any beauty". Really? I guess we all have a different definition of what is beautiful.

[quote] I am a loser for so many years

Apparently.

[quote] what I'm asking is considered too much for my ability

And thus you will lash out at others.

R14, I am trying to think of ways to lower my standard to what is my just deserts. Any suggestions?

OP is the Tom Hardy troll, also the M/P/BR Troll.

R16 is Captain Obvious.

[quote] I am trying to think of ways to lower my standard to what is my just deserts. Any suggestions?

Try the Ainu.

OP --- you're the guy with no friends who lusts after a guy that ignores you ........who are you to have such "high standards" .....

Most people consider stalking a low class activity.

You should talk to your roommate about this .......oh, wait ....

Or maybe your mother ....before you move out at 23.

Date? Sure. Marry? Most likeIy not.

I not only dated one, we signed a lease together. I'd like to say love conquered all, but it didn't. We broke up only a few months in and almost every problem could be traced to class differences. We had different expectations. Things that I considered to be "understood" weren't and others that "goes without saying" in relationships where both parties were middle to upper middle class needed to be said.

Iow, he was a big old piece of trash. lol.

I was young and didn't realize that there are significant differences that need to be bridged. I thought that we were all the same underneath and background didn't matter.

Well, it does. It can be done, I suppose, but it's more work and I'm not good at relationships and communication anyway. I'll leave the challenges to the professionals.

"Things that I considered to be "understood" weren't and others that "goes without saying" in relationships where both parties were middle to upper middle class needed to be said." r20

Inquiring minds want the sordid details.

If you suck at relationships, are you sure the problem was class conflict, and not just you?

It was both. I wasn't *that* bad. It's just not my forte. I need someone almost exactly like me basically.

But I've noticed that friends of mine who have long-term, successful relationships that bridge a significant class or racial gap are usually people who are exceptionally good at personal relationships and enjoy the challenge that that bit of extra distance brings. They get bored otherwise like a high IQ person forced into remedial math.

Details? Oh hell no. Maybe some other time when I'm not sober.

R22 was to R21

Yes.

I'm with you OP! There's no way I'd allow a brutish, thick-lipped wage-slave inside my [italic]maisonnette[/italic], so he can cover my [italic]chaise-longue[/italic] with his malodorous body-hair. I prefer them smooth, thin-lipped, with toothpick-legs,, a fivehead, a fake British accent and thinning, brittle white-blonde hair.

Uh...ya R25, what I posted was the opinion of another poster. I just thought it was an interesting pont of view. Would I date a lower class man, I've given reasons to as to why I would.

Gimme the garbage man over these mincing queens.

Money can't buy you class.

Nothing says "lower class" quite as loudly and clearly as the OP's hillbilly writing "skills."

Small close set eyes like the guy in the photo above are a sign of inbreeding and lower class.

All the lower class men I've been with are back in prison

I find New York blue collar ethnic guys with their coarse accents, manners and manner of dress quite repulsive. One would think that type of Brooklyn Italian accent, if that's what it is, would have disappeared.

Now that I am borderline rich, yes I absolutely would. I am very drawn to swarthy construction worker/contractor types. I like a can do man. At this point, if he has his hair, can make me laugh and doesn't want much in the way of romance, I'd take a chance.

Is he climbably tsll? Does he look like Howie - Dean or Long?

I like romance, and from what I've seen (not experienced) blue collar men don't do that well.

When it's just fucking around this "class" thing doesn't come into play for me. Those sexy latin minim wage guys here in Chicago are often awesomely hot in the sack. Pretty damn wild as long as you insist on condoms. Now seriously dating or marriage are completely different things. The sex becomes less important and having common ground becomes extremely important. We just live in a completely different worlds in terms of experiences and life expectations and education level. It's just not going to work for anything serious. That's just the reality of the situation.

Most of you are such fairies!

I take whatever I can get.

If you only knew rhe number of higher class gay men who live like they're still in college.

My husband's parents were OTR truckers and his grandfathers Appalachian coal miners. He's a chef and runs an opera company. We both wonder how his family managed to produce him.

LOL..it happens R40. I just got back from visiting my father and it's quite striking just how different we are in education, careers and overall life. We essentially live on different planets and that has very little to do with me being gay at this point. My life took a very different path ( by choice) than his. Couple of days is about all the time we can spend together in a go and then we're both totally bored with each other. He's actually over time gotten totally ok with the gay thing..it's just all the rest very very little common ground there. But your relationship with your adult parent is entirely different than your relationship with someone you're dating or partnered with. There has to be a lot more common ground there.

I would, yes. Honestly, I am more comfortable being the one who makes more money. He still has to have a job.

Does he look like this?

What does class have to do with it? It has to do with things in common other than class.

Do you enjoy the same activities? Do you read the same genre? Appreciate music together? Have equal levels of intelligence? Have similar hobbies or enjoy trying new things?

These are the things that allow relationships to flourish. Class has nothing to do with it.

I suppose I could date my chauffeur, but probably not the cook or houseman.

My partner obviously can, and I am extremely appreciative of that. He is beautiful (and quite upper class). He went to a boarding school where they wore straw boater hats and the school event of the year was the debutante ball. At my school the event of the year was an Armed Offenders Squad lockdown, the drug and weapon searches were too commonplace to be notable events in the school calendar

Yes, I would prefer a blue-collar guy, especially a handy man. That way, he can help me do the home projects that I am incapable of doing by myself. I'm book smart, but dumb when it comes to any work with my hands.

I just can't stay gay men who think like half-witted str8 women

I just can't stand gay men who think like half-witted str8 women

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R47, you should give yourself a chance and try out some projects! I was just like you, and eventually, I learned all kinds of stuff, by watching YouTube videos, or reading how to manuals/instructions, online.

I *am* the lower class, so, anyone is welcome to woo me ;-)

Variety is the spice of life so yeah I've dated and up and down. Anyway there are all sorts of different kinds of class. One can be "working class" but come from a family with impeccable morality and social value - a bedrock type family. And we all know the super rich can be sociopaths and vulgar, trashy people.

I did it once. I am a Professor and he was a mechanic. We met when we were young (late 20's), I had finished my Ph.D. and I accepted a tenure-track position in another state so we broke it off. But, it was clear that it was not going anywhere. I usually had to work during weekends (writing, reading....) and he would just be around the house, bored. He was very sweet but he did not have any hobbies and not many friends. He did not even like sports. So, it was sex or little else. We were together for over a year. Looking back, it should have been a one-night stand or a FWB. It is difficult if the interests/hobbies are radically different or if one of the two has the necessity to be together all the time, or most of the time.

If someone is intelligent, somewhat curious about the world and reasonably compatible with me in other ways, I couldn't give two hoots about 'class'. The problem would be excessive class loyalty on their part (or their cohort's) - i.e. disdaining me for not doing things their way.