Bernie Sanders and Martin O’Malley interrupted by Black Lives Matter protesters in Phoenix

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Subsequently, a second protester, a Black Lives Matter activist who was introduced as Patrice, was invited on to the stage to ask a question.

“It’s not like we like shutting shit down, but we have to,” she said. “We are tired of being interrupted.”

She added: “We are in a state of emergency. If you don’t know that emergency, you are not human.”

“I want to hear concrete actions,” she told O’Malley, “and I want to hear an action plan.”

“Let me say a couple of things,” O’Malley began in response. “All of us as Americans have a responsibility to recognise the pain and the grief throughout our country for all of the lives that have been lost to violence, whether at the hands of police or civilians.”

His words were greeted by heckling.

O’Malley tried to respond, saying: “This is … let me … sure. I’ll just share with you … I’m trying to respond as best I can. No … hey. Look … I know, I know.”

Vargas said: “What just happened there? I’m so lost.”

O’Malley switched to an inclusive tack. He said: “Every life matters and that is why this issue is important. Black lives matter, white lives matter, all lives matter.”

He was greeted, repeatedly, by booing.

Among pressure groups, support for the protesters was strong.

Anna Galland, executive director of MoveOn, issued a statement which said: “The presidential candidates’ responses today to the powerful protest led by black activists at Netroots Nation … make clear that all Democratic candidates have work to do in understanding and addressing the movement for black lives.

“Saying that ‘all lives matter’ or ‘white lives matter’ immediately after saying ‘black lives matter’ minimises and draws attention away from the specific, distinct ways in which black lives have been devalued by our society and in which black people have been subject to state and other violence.”

A joint statement from Democracy for America and the Progressive Change Campaign Committee said: “Black lives matter and we stand in solidarity with every single organizer and activist who stood up and demanded that presidential candidates challenge power and respond to the crushing consequences of structural racism.”

Immediately after the event, in a tweet, O’Malley said: “Everyone deserves a voice. #blacklivesmatter. I WILL promote a racial justice agenda as president.”

Using the same medium, Vargas said: “To folks who ask me why I didn’t stop protestors: We cannot silence people of colour and women of colour #BlackLivesMatter. #nn15”

Black people kill other black people at an alarming rate. White cops or white on black violence is miniscule in comparison. Black people really need to sort their shit out in their own communities.

Every time Bernie opens his big, fat, fucking mouth.....I LOVE HIM MORE!

Thanks for your contribution r2 now go fuck yourself.

I'm sure that Clinton's supporters paid the blacks to cause disruption.

Oh, how obnoxious. I get their message, but how fucking rude to try to hijack someone else's event for this bullshit which will accomplish NOTHING. And why do it to these guys? Why not harass fucking Donald Trump?

I live in Phoenix & I was going to go to the rally tonight, but it looks like a dust storm is coming and the friend I was going to go with hasn't confirmed...think I'll just stay home. I don't like crowds of people even when everyone is on their best behavior.

These #BlackLivesMatter protestors are making fools of themselves, booing and jeering two progressive politicians.

So says the racist at r2. Where is Obama appearing next so you can wave that horrible Confederate flag at him? Traitor.

So they should STOP what they're doing to make YOU feel comfortable? How mighty white of you r7. The signs say Black Lives Matter. The last time I looked, neither O'Malley or Sanders were black hence the protest.

I'm not racist, r8. The biggest threat to a black person's life is another black person. That is recorded fact. Look at Chicago. For black people to move up they need to change the culture and themselves, but self-reflection is disturbing, I suppose.

R6, my thoughts exactly. I was wondering why - even though they said that every debate will be a target - they chose to interrupt Sanders and O'Malley and not one Republican. Mot saying this was a set-up or conspiracy, but now I'm waiting to see if it will actually happen.

Well, if they want someone black instead of a progressive, they can vote for the Black Republican who will do absolutely nothing and make their lives worse.

Would Black Lives Matter be this assertive at an Obama event? Obama's hardly a radical when it comes to law and order issues - all of the cases that inspired the BLM movement happened under his government, and I don't know of any measure that his administration has taken to tackle the issue of police misbehavior against the Black community, either systemically or even in individual cases.

It could be a Republican conspiracy, too.

American people are sick of this stuff. 2016 is going to be President Trump. Mark my words. And it's because of SJWs.

This sort of politics is the opposite of radical - it divides the working-class and gets them to fight amongst themselves, while the 1% laughs. A lot of this is agent-provacteur stuff. There are serious issues - police violence, inequality but these will not be solved by racial divisions - it is class struggle that is needed because that is what it really is about.

Perhaps it has to do with Sanders support of the NRA and O'Malley's tenure as mayor of Baltimore and governor of Maryland?

Oh goody r10. You get to judge others while not tending to your own backyard. Still won't address what's going on around you and NOT the Black community? If you're NOT part of the solution (Black on Black or any other crime - crime is crime), YOU are part of the problem!

Wonder how many Bernie Sanders supporters will leave Netroots Nation 2015 angry & frustrated but ironically unaware that black activists live that daily.

[quote]This sort of politics is the opposite of radical - it divides the working-class

As a right-wing pundit said on Twitter, this is a symptom of the dissonance between the social democratic order of older left-wing politicians with the identity politics of the new generation of progressive activists. But let's be honest, this is not unprecedented. Gay groups who heckled politicians of both parties in the 80s and 90s to call attention to the HIV epidemic, were in an analogous situation. They, too, were fighting for the rights of a specific minority - they did not accept to sacrifice their agenda for the sake of left-wing unity.

R19 - read the article. Sanders turned things and around and the crowed loved him.

R20 and other you're missing the obvious. O'Malley was big claim WAS the turnaround of Baltimore and Maryland. As it turns out it may have been his policing tactics that lead to this mess.

[quote] read the article. Sanders turned things and around and the crowed loved him.

Nowhere does the article suggest that.

[quote] O'Malley was big claim WAS the turnaround of Baltimore and Maryland. As it turns out it may have been his policing tactics that lead to this mess.

????

Yes, but "identity politics" has had its day - some people are starting to recognize it for the fraud that it was/is. This is anti-progressive and anti-left. It started in the 80s as the right-wing's handmaiden - it distracted, and divided and suppress a real left, a real opposition. As the right-wing and coprorate right-wing, now globalist right-wing grew and grew - so did the identity politics from poststructuralist horseshit to SJW useful idiots of today - and the promotion of trans, too. Interesting that identity politics of today supports all the right wing goals - promoting trans (anti-gay, anti-feminism) and promotion of black-white hatred (so there is division of the working class and they cannot unite to fight the 1%)

Sanders' supporters on Twitter are very pissed. To quote one of them:

[quote]When you shout down a guy talking about 45,000 deaths from no health care in America to say your issue is more important, evaluate your life

Dats right gramps

The leader of the protest doesn't come off well in this post-event interview. She appears to believe there are not class and economic issues in America, that everyone has it good but Black people.

[quote]Because [economic issues are] a more comfortable space for [Sanders]. But if you really want to talk about economics, do you want to talk about incarceration, do you want to talk about defunding the public sector, do you really want to talk about, oh job creation. There’s plenty of jobs! Right? We’re in America...

She's an idiot. Those are EXACTLY the issues that Sanders is pounding home every day.

Sanders and his lily white supporters just don't understand what these "coloreds" want.

Love it when R2 states fact and then R8 comes out and yells....RACIST! Fuck!

According to many journalists, Bernie Sanders handled the situation very badly. Bernie fan Krystal Ball of MSNBC tweeted "Neither @SenSanders or @MartinOMalley handled that well. Bernie jumped right to stump on econ. Didn't engage on mass incarceration. #NN15." Bernie also canceled a scheduled meeting with AZ Dem party officials soon 40 minutes after the interruption by BlackLivesMatter. When he was asked by a Latino group how to respond to income equality, he just basically pulled the Socratic Method and asked the group how they think they could solve the problem.

Sanders only knows how to speak to angry white men, but seems inadequate when it comes to minority problems. I don't agree with hecklers, but like it or not, immigration activists, climate change activists, and black lives matter is what is driving the conversation in the Dem Primary right now so you have to engage and know how to address those issues. Bernie failed. O'Malley tried.

I'm a Hillary supporter and I think these people are crazy. Why don't they troll Republicans? Bernie's a good man who has supported liberal causes his whole life.

r31 I'm sorry but Bernie is not a liberal. He's a Socialist. To me being a liberal means civil liberties. Gay rights and women's right and protection of environment. To me, it isn't trashing Wall Street or those who are wealthy. I'm okay with people being rich (like FDR, JFK, LJohnson) so long as they have a social conscience.

Elizabeth Warren and Bernie Sanders are not about civil liberties. They're all about class warfare and demonizing the success of others. That's not what liberalism is about to me. I don't want a class warfare. I want to deal with climate change and with inequity and social issues like equal rights. Whatever they think they are, they're liberal Democrats. They Socialists.

Bernie Sanders is a lifelong Socialist and now he wants to run in the Democratic Primary. Why not be bold and run as a Socialist/Independent in his own Primary?

Why go after Sanders and O'Malley? Have they been involved in or supported police brutality? Republicans might be a more suitable target, but, of course, they aren't going to give any leeway for 1st Amendment free of speech. Or, maybe they think a Repub in the White House next round will lessen police brutality. Fat chance of that. The cops will be so militarized that North Korea will look like a vacation spot.

r33 O"Malley as Mayor of Baltimore, created many of the problems of mass incarceration. You know the HBO show "Wired?" that show was a rebuke of his policies.

They activists weren't going after O'Malley or Bernie. They wanted to be heard. Unfortunately, both men (espcially Bernie) handled it very poorly.

Did anyone notice that Hillary was not at Netroots? Why do you think that is? My idea is that she actually funded this surrepticiously. Apparently Netroots said they invited her several times and she refused.

Hillary wasn't there because she couldn't handpick the audience, feed them the questions to ask, have her talking points be about how happy she is to be a grandma, or try to pull her just like you schtick. She can't leave her bubble.

She's not there r35 because she was already committed to the annual Arkansas Jefferson-Jackson Dinner as their keynote speaker. Since 2008, Democrats have basically lost Ark. and she's trying to rebuild a coalition there (a lost-cause those). She's also attending other events so that it would raise the hope of Democrats there

By the way, Netroots was a disaster. The event ended early today because of the disruption. Nothing good came of it.

"I don't want a class warfare."

Too late. We got it, and they started it.

r36 I know it makes you feel better thinking that, but it's just not true. Sanders had his first test today, and he failed miserably. He pulled a tantrum because they interrupted his speech and abruptly left and canceled his scheduled meeting with AZ Party officials. The Chairman of the AZ Dem even tweeted how Sanders pulled out of a meeting. Krystal Ball said he didn't even bother addressing the protesters. I guess all he's really good at is talking. Just sticking to his stump speech.

who is "they," r38? Some of us actually want to become successful. Why are you so envious of those who are successful? Being an American is not about being envious. It's about working hard to achieve your potential. It's not sitting back and cheering as an old man wages a class warfare. Many of our great Democrat Presidents have come from wealthy families. Sanders is not Democrat. He's a Socialist. If you support him, you're a Socialist. So get out of our Primary.

[quote]Elizabeth Warren and Bernie Sanders are not about civil liberties. They're all about class warfare and demonizing the success of others. That's not what liberalism is about to me. I don't want a class warfare. I want to deal with climate change and with inequity and social issues like equal rights. Whatever they think they are, they're liberal Democrats. They Socialists.

Wealth redistribution from the rich down through the middle class ,down to the working class and working poor is long, long overdue. Fish and nations rot from the head down. The unchecked greed of the One Per Cent will spell the undoing of us all, themselves included.

surreptitiously

r41 then run as Independent/Socialist. Instead, Sanders is piggybacking on a Democratic Primary. He's never been a Democrat. Chafee is not a Democrat. What is up with a Socialist and former Republican running in our Primary. I don't give a damn about Sanders or Chafee. With Webb, at least he's a traditional southern blue dog Democrat. Clinton and O'Malley are solid Democrats.

All this class warfare only serves to divide people. To shame people who have made it. There are many ways to close the income gap without demonizing those who have worked hard to become successful. Majority of wealthy people did not inherit it. They worked hard.

The Democratic Party is the party which defend civil liberties and social inequality. If you want class warfare, that is what communists and socialists do.

I was a Hillary supporter in 2008 and was bitterly disappointed when she didn't win the nomination but I am not excited AT ALL at the prospect of a Hillary presidency. Sad to say but r36 is probably closer to the truth than many of you would like to think.

r44 Netroot is the equivalent of CPAC where all the nuts gather. We witness today how disorganized and out of control it seemed to be. The moderator actually invited a member of BlackLivesMatter onto the stage to ask O'Malley a question. He said later that as a man of color, he didn't want to shut out any person of color.

Shame on HRC for trying to expand Democrat's reach beyond the blue states. Dems lost Ark since Obama came into office. A party's future lies in being inclusive and not just appealing to the core. I believe the South can be saved. Why should she cancel a prior plan because idiots like you love a good conspiracy?

She should have gone to Netroots now people think she's afraid of the base.

Can anyone tell me how much it was to get into Netroots? I don't believe it was free. I still think HIllary was behind that disruption

r46 she is the base. Netroots is the fringe of the base.

Holy shit look at ticket prices. SOMEONE paid for BLM to show up. I still say Hillary made that donation. Very Watergate.

Ha people are angry that Hillary is smart enough to avoid the shitfest that is Netroots nation. Gee I wonder if Bernie would show up again if he had the chance. All indications are that NN knew that this would happen and supported it. What kind of organization allows protestors to completely takeover their convention?

r49 welcome to Datalounge, Bernie. Sorry you couldn't handle a few black people. Being from Vermont and all, black people and their problems must seem very foreign to you.

Going after soft targets is so typical of these people. I'd love to see them try to pull this stunt with Donald Trump or someone who won't feel the need to coddle them.

How can an illegal immigrant host something like this? Doesn't he risk deportment when he puts his face out there like that?

*deportation

[quote]Being from Vermont and all, black people and their problems must seem very foreign to you.

Obama is perfectly willing to ignore and exacerbate black peoples' problems if that is what it takes to keep his masters at Goldman Sachs happy.

Nutroots is really a very white event. It doesn't represent the Democrat Party as a whole. It's just one faction of the Dem Party. From the Los Angeles Times:

"The difference, said conference attendee Lexis Clark of Chicago, was that O’Malley seemed to waffle and waver during the protest, while Sanders, used to long, loud debates, simply boomed his way through the interruptions.

“I wasn’t blown away” by O’Malley, said Clark, 30. “He didn’t do a very good job controlling it.”

To the protesters themselves, neither candidate did much to assure them that the goals of the Black Lives Matter movement would be considered.

“They all fumbled when we brought black issues to the table,” said Ashley Yates, 30, one of Saturday’s protest leaders. “That was by design.”

You can’t hold anyone accountable for something they haven’t agreed to yet,” Yates said, adding that Netroots, for all its progressive leanings, remained a largely white space.

“Let’s be honest: It’s mostly white, concerning white issues,” Yates said, “when we are out here dying.”

TBF they are dying because they shoot each other and use drugs, and have children without having stable employment. Relying on the government sucks.

r54 is a parrot who mimics. I've heard that line so many times. Attacking Obama now? Why? Can't you people come up with anything original? Obama is a self-made man. Bill Clinton is a self-made man. Most people who are successful have done it through hard work. I come from a poor family. Studied hard and made it to law school. Many of my former classmates are middle to lower-income class. There are many people out there who started out as either poor or middle class and worked our asses off. We didn't sit around and talked like Sanders or Warren. In every society there will always be very poor and very wealthy. That's just the human condition. The question is how can we made the lives of those who are struggling better. It's not to demonize success.

[quote]Obama is a self-made man. Bill Clinton is a self-made man.

If by self-made, you mean CIA-made.

I feel as though with Sanders and Warren, it's not even about the poor anymore. It's just dividing Americans, much in the same way the Republicans divide Americans. Talk about how we can improve the lives of those struggling, versus this demagoguery.

Gates is filthy rich. Buffett is wealthy. Both men just out there doing good. We don't need a class warfare. We need solutions.

Look at Warren. She's living in a multi-million dollar home. She's a millionaire.

r58 shut the eff up, conspiracy nut.

lol, so typical for those protesters, they can't even think clearly who they should boo

Real wages for the laboring class need to rise. CEOs are not working 300 times harder than they were forty years ago. They are just paying themselves that much more while choke-holding the cost of labor. Sorry, R60, if you don't believe Obama and Clinton have CIA connections. Ignorance on your part does not make me a conspiracy theorist.

r62 so long conspiracy idiot. Come back to the real world. You want to be successful? Stop being so envious and work hard. I love the ignore button.

Hillary got booed at Netroots Nation the last time she was there. Next.

r64 there is this fiction that HRC is somehow a conservative. According to Nate Silver's site... "Clinton was one of the most liberal members during her time in the Senate. According to an analysis of roll call votes by Voteview, Clinton’s record was more liberal than 70 percent of Democrats in her final term in the Senate. She was more liberal than 85 percent of all members. Her 2008 rival in the Democratic presidential primary, Barack Obama, was nearby with a record more liberal than 82 percent of all members — he was not more liberal than Clinton."

She's a traditional Democrat. The nutroots are not the Dem base. They are themselves on the far left fringe. Unfortunately, today, they met a group that is even more left than they are. I hope Bernie felt the burn from African-American who just want him to care about their issues and their lives. Instead, he ignored them and plowed through with his stump speech. AA is the base and Bernie just lost a huge chunk of the Dem voting block. Great job, Bern! Hope he felt the burn.

Now that R63 has put me on ignore, I'll tell the rest of you that he has posted sixteen times in this thread and he has posted in no others. Nearly a quarter of the replies in this thread are his.

He hates Sanders and Socialism and I think he's a shill for Hill.

I'm not talking about traditionally "successful" people. I work every day.

I'm talking about the true one percenters, the untouchables who want all the toys in the world for their very own.

Do we have to have this conversation all over again?

r67 that is the sad reality of living in something called life. In every society, there will always be those at the top and those at the bottom. Great majority of us are in the middle. If you can't deal with it, then you're hopeless. I don't care if people are in the 1%. Not all of them are like Donald Trump. These are people who will contribute to museums and hospitals and so on and so on. So many institutions that we use are funded by the 1%. I care about what we can do to help those who are struggling. We can never eradicate the destitute, but as a society we can make their lives somewhat easier.

Seriously, get over the envy. I will never be part of the 1% and I'm fine with it. Some of us are born lucky and some of us have to work for what we have. That's life. Class warfare benefits no one. Just remind yourself that some people would consider Elizabeth a one-percenter. She can deny it, but she is pretty wealthy. Wealthier than you and wealthier than me.

[quote]Do we have to have this conversation all over again?

Absolutely! One should never ignore lunatic conspiracy-ists.

Here is an eye-opening video that will show you how crazily skewed wealth inequality is in the USA.

Chances are very good that what you think wealth distribution looks like, and what it really looks like are very different.

The rich in the USA are much, much richer than most people know.

This is why 300 million of us need a Bernie Sanders more than we need another Wall Street Clinton.

R70 I've seen the light! I believe! Now all you have to do is cure the mental illness of Jew hatred from bigoted America and you may actually get your wish.

R72, we all know Bernie isn't going to win. I'll wager the Jews who really matter in things prefer Hillary and have the power to stop Bernie themselves. They and their equally influential non-Jewish peers will prevent a Sanders Presidency long before the bigotry you allege is permitted to be tested.

That video equates socialism with communism R70. Not very intelligent.

R72 You've just proved that "alleged" bigotry, and illustrate just how entrenched anti-Jewish bigotry is in America.

I was just up in Maine vacationing in Ogunquit, Maine...no black people up here...anywhere? Stunning place as we stayed at the B&B The Trellis House.

How great would it be if BlackLivesMatter, Occupy Wall Street, the student loan revolt group Debt Collective, Move to Amend, and other activist movements join forces and complete what Dr. King' s REAL mission was before his death- economic equality. A major anti-corporatist takeover is desperately needed to purge the disastrous effect Reaganomics has had on our country. Social media can really be the trigger to mobilize a mass movement

Sorry for my ignorance, but can someone explain to me what "Say My Name" refers to, that the protesters were shouting?

All in all, I think O'Malley tried and even though he fumbled on "All White Lives Matter" (which is true as all lives matter), he did make amends by talking to activists afterward. It was a tough situation. Bernie Sanders handled it terribly. This is not his rally. It is afterall a liberal activists gathering and these things will come up. Instead of stopping like O'Malley did, Sanders basically just ignored them and continued with his stump speech LOUDLY. A candidate is judged on how he reacts to the unpredictable and the protesters. Sanders was just tone deaf. He didn't know how to react. He didn't know what to do. He just decided to out-shout them.

[quote]You've just proved that "alleged" bigotry, and illustrate just how entrenched anti-Jewish bigotry is in America.

Are you suggesting that Jews don't have power, money, and influence in US politics?

Or are you asserting that while Jews may have power, money, and influence in US politics, it is anti-semitic for a non-Jew to acknowledge that fact?

Of the top one thousand most influential Jewish Democrats, how many would you say support Hillary compared to Bernie? If Hillary by a large margin is the answer, then my point was a fair one.

R79 I'm stating that your over-generalization about what Jews in the US do or don't have is exactly the bigotry that is so entrenched and accepted.

Black Lives Matter? Stop killing each other.

R43 You're a poser troll, not a Democrat. And deaf to party tone as well. Raise your game, idiot.

This white progressive who attended the event gets it.

Frustration. Anger. Being silenced.

Frustration.

Anger.

Silenced.

Talked over.

Ignored.

r82 you think you get to decide who is a Democrat or not? I've been Democrat my whole adult life. Because I don't support your idiot Sanders I'm not a Democrat, right? Sanders isn't even a Democrat. He's a Socialist running in our Primary. So if you support Sanders, you're Socialist. Get out of our Primary. Sanders is too much of a coward to run as a Independent.

Everyone has issues they care about. Clearly Sanders doesn't give a damn about the blacklives matter movement. I have my core beliefs. You're Sander's drone.

r83 they are angry. They are a movement. Sanders treated them like hecklers. O'Malley treated them with respect and he listened. At one point, Sanders said, "if you don't want me here..." and then he looks towards the exit. I'm not voting for the old fool.

Americans FINALLY get a good politician - Sanders - and a bunch of clowns won't let him speak. FOOLS. He is on their side, but I guess they only see RACE. This kind of stupidity THRILLS the 1% that is hurting black people, poor people.

R86 Look Lindsey I mean Whitney. Put the pipe down! Quit dreaming!

If Bernard can't address people of color protest or NO protest, his chances of getting the nomination OR winning the election are a big fat ZERO!

But YOU KNEW THAT ALREADY! Cut the nonsense. You've been warned!

You have to be one dumb motherfucker to disrupt the appearance of Bernie Sanders.

He is on your side, dimwits.

Nice going, shit for brains

[quote]You have to be one dumb motherfucker to disrupt the appearance of Bernie Sanders.

I don't think they know that. From the interview the protest leader gave afterwards, it seems she has no knowledge whatsoever of Sanders' political career and the positions he has taken over the years. So, because she doesn't know (from lack of research) of Sanders' support for the Voting Rights Act, his denunciation - repeated throughout decades - of the impact that overpolicing has on minority communities, and that he's for the expansion of the public sector, it means, for her, that he's never taken any of those positions, so she can badmouth him for being "silent" on all these issues.

It also seems her attitude towards him is motivated by something very akin to racial animosity. This is her attempt to explain how he thinks (in her head):

[quote]"We have to get out of this idea that it’s already established that I deserve to be the President. I’m a white man, that’s how we roll here. And we gave you Barack Obama so let’s just get back to business as usual."

[quote]Sanders' supporters on Twitter are very pissed

Welcome to a presidential run. What did they expect?

[quote]You have to be one dumb motherfucker to disrupt the appearance of Bernie Sanders.

Of course. Blame the protestors.

Sanders is running for head office, dears. You gotta learn to expect things like this and deal with them accordingly. It's a very important issue facing this country today. Stomping your feet and running off in tears isn't going to cut it.

This is worth noting. Sanders drew a bigger crowd in Portland, Maine than even many sitting Presidents have done. Remarkable considering the way people often turn out at such events just to say they saw a President , yet here's a politician who hasn't even won the nomination but can still out-draw Obama, Clinton, Gore, etc..

How Does Bernie Sanders' Turnout in Maine Compare to Other Democratic Rallies? It Was Epic. -With Election Day still 16 months away, Sanders draws biggest turnout for a Maine Democratic rally in 25 years

Lol this same group disrupted violently Chicago gay pride. Far left is killing the Democratic Party a

[quote]Far left is killing the Democratic Party

Phooey! You know the Clinton campaign paid the black activists to break up the Sanders/O'Malley rally.

Hillary is Nixon in a pantsuit. She was a Nixon supporter when she was young. Name one real liberal her age who supported Nixon when they were in college. She's a corporatist wolf in liberal sheep's clothing. She'll sell out all of us to her mega-rich donors.

Go Hilary!

Blacks are their own worst enemy. Nearly all I hear is "give us" because they are black. You have to earn it. You have to work for it. Almost every White person I know is poor and hard working. I'm more and more offended by Blacks and illegal immigrants with each passing day. I had a hard working job taking care of special needs persons in a school for a little over $13,000 a year. My Black next door neighbor sat home smoking dope and such while receiving governmental benefits living better off than I did. I'm not going to support all this "give me what I want because I'm Black" stuff. I'm not going to support the illegal immigrants either. When I applied for my last job it wanted me to check whether I am White, Black or Other. That's it. I'm an Other. I'm tired of Blacks being racist to me. Whites don't treat me nearly as bad as Blacks treat me. They can take their "Matter" T-shirts and stick them up their noses.

Almost every White person I know is poor and hard working.

and Bernie's gurls are turning on him over this.

Presenting your typical SJWs in action. Let's see if they crash any Republican events. Nah, they're too chickenshit to do that.

[quote]Name one real liberal her age who supported Nixon when they were in college.

Elizabeth Warren, who was still a Republican not too many years ago.

[quote]How Does Bernie Sanders' Turnout in Maine Compare to Other Democratic Rallies? It Was Epic. -With Election Day still 16 months away, Sanders draws biggest turnout for a Maine Democratic rally in 25 years

and still doesn't have the support of the Democratic party as a whole, and he's still not a Democrat.

[quote]He is on your side, dimwits.

Yes, he's on our side!

[quote]Americans FINALLY get a good politician - Sanders

Not in the White House, they ain't.

Sanders threw a hissy fit before.

Bernie's campaign manager is a comic book store owner.

Why do you think people like Maine? Why is it constantly in the top five places of most peaceful places on the planet to live?

His fangurls can keep dreaming all they want.

It's Bernie Sanders -- they scratched him and found that only #JewishLivesMatter

It is patronizing to me keep whenever I read insulting shit about angry, poor black people not knowing any better. There are just as many angry, poor white people not knowing any better in this country as well. They are just better at hiding it. Nobody tells them to get their shit together. America has never had a particularly civilized or cultured populace. Do not be fooled. Ignorance is justified as culture, and that is for both races. The ones with the power love that the underclass are self-destructive, poorly informed, and vote against their own interests. Intelligent people are the minority, NOT the majority in this country. America is a country that is all about style and symbolism.

The nutroots left-of-left are whites who have a burning need to feel guilty about it. This kind of episode is catnip for them. However, they are VERY good at organizing. If Hill thinks she's headed for a coronation for the nomination, caucus states like Maine will prove a rude surprise.

Well done, R99. Thank you.

R109 is correct. But I still think Hillary will have a coronation If Bernie (or any other primary candidate) starts to get close to 50%, she'll bring them down with some dirty tricks you can't even imagine.

And I would appreciate it if she did, r111, in order to save this country from a Republican president, which Sanders will gladly present to whatever crazy Republican runs against him.

r93 can you provide a link that showed HRC supported Nixon? I believe she was a young lawyer on the impeachment trial. You can hate her w/o fictionalizing her life.

You get 4 pinnocchios.

I thought Hillary was a Goldwater Girl

R114 is right.

r114 I don't think Sander;s supporters really care about the truth. They're mimicking the Republicans in their attack against HRC. She hasn't attacked any of her fellow Dems. O'Malley has and so has Sanders. Sander's supporters are especially vicious towards HRC online

She was a Goldwater Girl when she was about 18-19. During college years, her worldview changed. This is young woman who was corresponding with Saul Alinsky while in college and law school. I'm not voting for Sanders. The behavior of his supporters is such a turn. Sanders true self was revealed at the #nn115

I get it. I'm white, I'm old and I have been getting it for years. But most white people do not get it, don't understand it at all.

[quote]The nutroots left-of-left are whites who have a burning need to feel guilty about it

More like, they have a need to be seen as better than other whites.

Hillary was a Goldwater Girl. She was fired from the impeachment committee.

r119 there Sanders supporters go lying again. Come on. We live in the age of the internet where information is at the tip of our fingers. It makes you rather pathetic and just a chronic liar. Sanders' supporters have become the cancer within the Democratic Party.

She also flunked the bar so she ran down to AK to be with Bill.

She gave Sen Brooks (the first black GOP Senator) a brutal verbal bitch slapping when they shared the podium at her Wellesley graduation. She made Time magazine for that.

But Bernie is one of those Jews who insist he is an athiest until The Tribe wants to put their hands on something.

Maybe a fairer, American election, would be Trump against a real Democratic not groomed by the retread machine.

A couple of Oh, Dears for R121.

AK is Alaska; Arkansas is AR.

It was Sen. Ed Brooke!

Hillary girls can try to rewrite history as much as they want. She was fired. She was opposed to gay marriage, very much for mandatory sentencing, very much for brutal policing, did get a child rapist out of jail by not letting the court know she knew where the evidence was, very much for draconian welfare "reform", very much an inveterate liar(even about the smallest of things), had her own little war on women to protect her sexual predator husband, yes this is the monster you support. Let us not forget her support for DOMA and Don't Ask Don't Tell.

Good they have no way and hell of getting the democratic nomination ...so move on dudes!

r123 how is it rewriting history when you are being fact-checked? Zeifman and HRC were not even on the same staff. He had no authority to fire her. If you don't care about the truth, just say so and I'll leave you alone to your own fictional world.

You are a proven liar and it's not expected that anything else you say is to be believed.

R122, "AK" was used for Arkansas before Alaska became a state. Many in Arkansas still use it.

Snopes told us why Hillary wasn't fired, but it didn't say why she (left, was asked to leave) the committee.

A woman must keep some secrets, R127, it's part of the wonderful mystery of being a woman.

She's a fucking monster. You have two candidates who have a long progressive record but you want to support this woman who has a record of actively working against you. She sold you down the river when the polls told her it was the thing to do. How can gays be so self loathing?

R40, you're talking about an America that once was. These days they stacked the deck. We no longer live in a democracy. We live in an Oligarchy. That has to be fought and ended and democracy brought back. Most of the very rich didn't get there honestly by hard work. They stole and cheated and murdered (think the trillions that went to war mongers). Some like the Koch Brothers just inherited. Many of them never did a hard day's work in their lives. The very rich live off tax payers and hide that money in other countries where none of it can help this country. They are anti-American traitors. They must be stopped.

Wanting to even the playing field is not "Socialist." It's just FAIR!

Hear, hear, R130!

We are ruled by the worst among us, Clintons and Bushes alike are lackeys for a gold-plated criminal class of thieves and knaves.

It's funny you should say that r131. Obama has been in office for almost 7 years and all things you're ranting about happened under his watch. Income equality has widen since 2008. Why not attack Obama?

Most black people will be left in the dust for eternity. They are too stupid to realize that by not assimilating into American culture, they will never succeed. By embracing their blackness at every bend, they isolate themselves more and more. Angry because they are not getting enough handouts? They still do not realize that education is the only way to success. Having a script tattoo on your neck will not get you a corporate job. They are their own worst enemy.

r133 Jesus! what has happened to DL? Crazy Sanders loon and racist jerks like r133

I have a friend that works in HR at a corporate 500 and she says blacks are rarely seen for positions as they are not qualified and always carry an angry chip on their shoulder and are notoriously late for work and are not valued as good employees.

#berniesoblack erupting on twitter right now. His arrogance at #nn2015 created this.

Bernie you're DONE...RETIRE!

At least black people have an excuse for generational poverty unlike the gun-loving inbreds in small town America. These are the same deluded people who love Murica and the U.S. military but celebrate the Confederacy and you have the gall to call blacks lost. A treasonous symbol is their biggest pride and joy. These are the same people who hate big government but reside in places that would be as 3rd world as Nicaragua without government handouts. There is a reason why people who want to succeed get the hell out of backwater towns or the ghetto. Dysfunctional communities who rely on guns, government handouts, and religion as a security blanket are not just black.

*that rely on.

the hashtag #BernieSoBlack has been trending all day on Twitter and I don't think it's flattering to Bernie.

[quote]Obama has been in office for almost 7 years and all things you're ranting about happened under his watch. Income equality has widen since 2008. Why not attack Obama?

If it pleases, you, I will. Fuck Obama too. He works for the good of Goldman Sachs at the expense of the public good. We voted for Obama and he gave us Bush's Secretary of Defense and Romney's health care plan. Obama and Hillary are Republicans. Anyone left of center is without adequate representation in the Wall Street-owned Congress.

Sanders supporters are throwing tantrums on Democratic Underground over this. They're showing their true colors.

Blast Hillary all you want to, but she would have been able to discuss the issue with the protestor in a rational manner, managing to address each point that was mentioned. A President has to be able to think on their feet. Bill Clinton and Obama have done the exact same. This is an urgent issue in the black community right now. People want real solutions. For Bernie to get an attitude and then to roll on with a pre-prepared speech shows an inability to connect with the general public. I give O Malley credit, because he at least made the effort to engage. It's simply not enough to be a good politician to be President. You have to have a great rapport with the people.

Bottom line is Bernie handled it badly and instead of his supporters admitting the mistake and going forward they now want to trash the movement and those associated with it. Good luck getting black votes with that strategy. One Maine rally isn't going to be enough to swing an entire country.

BUT HILLARY DOESN'T DISCUSS THINGS!

Sure she does and she's smart enough to know to keep away from these events. That's why she wins. Politics is a game of chess. Sanders and O'Malley are politically tone deaf and aren't ready for primetime.

Why she wins? LOL

R144, Are we speaking about the same Hillary? She is wooden and awkward whenever she has to speak candidly with everyday folks, and you think she can handle a crowd of roaring activists. Quelling heckling is probably second nature to Obama with his community organizer background but it definitely is unfamiliar territory for Hillary.

Hillary looks like she wants a Silkwood shower after mingling with riffraff.

[quote]She is wooden and awkward whenever she has to speak candidly with everyday folks,

Hillary speaks with everyday folks all the time. It's second nature to her at this point. She's warm and engaging.

[quote]and you think she can handle a crowd of roaring activists

She couldn't fail completely like Sanders did. Or his supporters, who now seem intent on chasing away the black vote.

Again, let's divert the issue from Bernie's inadequacies to something else (the obligatory Hillary trashing when all else fails). And then you wonder why very few are taking this campaign seriously.

I hope you all realize you're being trolled by right-wingers who have invaded DL. This Bernie vs Hillary nonsense is just shit-stirring by RWNJs.

Christ, even the fuck off conspiracy nuts asshole is not as tiresome as r149. Get a clue Sherlock. We are Democrats who think for ourselves. I pity you if you never question where the candidates and the party leadership stand on the issues that are important to you.

Love how idiotic R136 is. No it's not. I love people here try to make twitter trends happen. Nope. THIS is what is trending on twitter

United States Trends · Change

#MyUnpopularBlackOpinion #WWEBattleground #Mets #GrowingUpWithMyName Carter #ANTHONYHOWDOYOUFEELABOUT Riley Curry Vamos Mexico Penedo Patrice

I googled Bernie Sanders looking for that hashtag and I found this instead...

Hillary has the black and latino vote. Bernie will NEVER get those.

Why?

As has been said, where are the Black Lives Matter people at Hillary rallies. Nowhere. Why is that? It's ok to besmirch Bernie & O'Malley but not Hillary? Because Hillary is funding them.

R151 You're ridiculous. R136 comments were 4 hours ago. You cannot jump in 3 and a half hours later and dispute him. It's true that Bernie was trending on Twitter for hours. It was #4 trending for US this afternoon. Now things have changed since then.

It's clear that Bernie Sanders didn't make that many black friends with his response.

Radical Rapper Killer Mike Endorsed Bernie Sanders for President

Lil B Endorses Presidential Candidate Bernie Sanders

Give it a rest, r94. Hillary will not be the Democratic nominee. Accept that and move on.

What the Hillary loons don't realize is that many many many many progressives will stay home if she is the nominee. That is a fucking fact whether the Hillary loons wish to admit it or not. They support this cunt at their own peril.

Why all these posts on Sanders...the reality is that it will never happen so give it a break you DL queens!

People are too wrapped up in personalities. It's the CURRENT agenda that matters. If Hillary brings a leftish agenda with her to the White House who cares about her past? Bernie, Martin, Lincoln, Hillary-- it's all smoke and mirrors. I want a Democratic Congress and a Democratic President. As long as those southern Blue Dogs stay gone, I'm good.

yeah Bernie being in the trenches all those years while Hillary bragged about Bill signing DOMA and DODT. O'Malley with a long and successful record as a progressive governor. It's Hillary that's all smoke and mirrors.

[quote]I have a friend that works in HR at a corporate 500 and she says blacks are rarely seen for positions as they are not qualified and always carry an angry chip on their shoulder and are notoriously late for work and are not valued as good employees.

Yes because only incompetent white frat boys who, via the good ole boy network are handed positions and white women (the biggest beneficiaries of affirmative action) who those frat boys want to fuck are qualified to work in Corporate America. Look at the wonderful job the Wall St Bankers did or America's favorite frat boy George Bush. Being that your friend does not hire blacks how would she know what they are or are not qualified to do. Almost every manager I ever had has been a white male and they were all lazy, incompetent, angry jerks. One of them barely came to work. What was his reward for barely showing up? His blond hair and blue eyes got him promoted to an even higher position. The good ole boy network moved continued to promote each of them. One fortune 200 company that I once worked for gave a test (logic/reasoning/personality) to all new applicants. HR, at one point, suspended the testing in our district because the white males that HR wanted to hire could not pass the test. I can assure you that most everyone has worked for an incompetent white male who was both stupid and unpleasant. Being that your bigot friend does not hire blacks how would she know what they are or aren't qualified to do? Or was she just talking out of her bigoted ass hole. Certainly, she has hired many many more incompetent whites than she has blacks but I'm sure she doesn't talk about that.

I agree r264. And then those same managers will get nasty when you call them on their shit! You know the 5 year old child excuse "Well he's doing it too".

Incompetence is NOT exclusive to people of color OR white women.

[quote]and white women (the biggest beneficiaries of affirmative action)

Is that a slur against our beloved Hillary?

[quote]If Hillary brings a leftish agenda with her to the White House who cares about her past?

The American voter who, unlike you, has more than a single functioning brain cell. That's exactly why people are chosen for a job based on their past record. So that their skills can be assessed as to appropriateness and competency for the position. If, based on her past, the candidate is deemed neither appropriate nor competent, she doesn't get the job. The job is the POTUS, not burger-flipping at McDonald's.

Idiot at R167, politicians are not people. They are meant to be vehicles for the people's agenda. Hillary means nothing to me except what she can accomplish while she in office.

And I don't find your declaration of her incompetence based in reality She's seems competent enough.

You might want to work on the reading comprehension thing , r168. r167 did not declare Saint Hillary "incompetent". He called her a flip flopper. "I am Hillary Rodham Clinton and I will love you long time. Maybe. I need to see more research. And money".

Similarly with what should have been done to Kanye West when he interrupted Taylor Swift, O'Malley should have grabbed the fat girl' arm & catapulted her ass out into the audience !!

Hillary will get shit done!

No Go for Bernie

Black lives do matter. From Black life A to Black life Zimbabwe. #VoteTrump

[quote]People are too wrapped up in personalities. It's the CURRENT agenda that matters. If Hillary brings a leftish agenda with her to the White House who cares about her past?

I cannot believe I just read that.

Character NEVER matters in politics. It seems that quite a few Democrats, Progressives and Blue Dogs, want another choice besides Bernie or Hillary. O'Malley is not a serious contender. No passion for him among the faithful. That leaves Papa Joe. Anyone excited about a possible Biden run?

Let Bernie Speak. Thousands came to see what he had to say and provide support. Those protesters are plants, or stupid, trying to get attention, rude and disrespectful, and grossly and overly entitled. Offer them a real job, and they'd run away.

There's a name for this: Shitting where you eat.

Hillary will get things done? What, in her past, has she ever gotten done?

Hillary is running from the e-mail fiasco. Or so it seems. Which is just as bad. While she hides herself away on her "discovery tour" in the "real" America, Bernie and Fiarino are stealing her thunder. She's done that political stunt to death. Just get out there on the stump and let the press ask the hard questions, Toots. You have had plenty of time to formulate the answers. The reason the polls show that so many Americans don't trust you is because you act like you have something to hide. You're a Scorpio. Of course you have plenty of shit to hide;) Just take a cue from Bill for once and act like you have some blood pumping through those veins. Warm and fuzzy is the way to go. What. You are above pretending to be something that you're not? Why the hell are you in politics? Oh, for the HISTORY. Not good enough.

[quote]As has been said, where are the Black Lives Matter people at Hillary rallies. Nowhere. Why is that? It's ok to besmirch Bernie & O'Malley but not Hillary? Because Hillary is funding them.

You are obviously old and don't understand sjw and Tumblr culture.

[quote]Hillary will get things done? What, in her past, has she ever gotten done?

I guess the Senate and SOS are meaningless.

They were kind of meaningless. I mean what did she get done? Anything that was a success anyway. I guess she knows how to set up a server now. But what the fuck has she done?

[quote]What the Hillary loons don't realize is that many many many many progressives will stay home if she is the nominee. That is a fucking fact whether the Hillary loons wish to admit it or not. They support this cunt at their own peril.

80% of the party wants Hillary as the nominee. That's been reported repeatedly since Sanders has supposedly soared. The ones stamping their feet are Bernie's childish fangurls.

[quote]yeah Bernie being in the trenches all those years while Hillary bragged about Bill signing DOMA and DODT.

Oh,dear, and DOMA and DADT were good for us. DADT was introduced by Colin Powell. Had the compromise not been past, gays would be banned from serving. DOMA stopped a constitutional amendment banning gay marriage. A constitutional amendment is almost impossible to overturn. We were able to get marriage equality because DOMA could be repealed.

*passed

R184 loves her pink triangle.

R178 Such a good point. I would constantly point out what a lying bitch she was and people would say, "Yes, but look at how qualified she is." Qualified how?! Everything she has ever touched has gone to shit. She's never been worth one ounce of the trouble whatsoever.

I also think it's funny that BLM kept protesting every candidate except Hillary. Wonder who sent them?

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Ruh roh

Why don't they interrupt the MAGA rallies? Because they know they'd be killed.