Which of these presents the tougher coming out process?
LGBT and Atheism
by Anonymous | reply 99 | January 4, 2021 10:51 PM |
One of the great conceits of atheism is that a vast number of people care either way. Even most people of faith are pretty quiet about it these days.
by Anonymous | reply 1 | June 19, 2015 12:14 AM |
The greatest conceit of r1 is thinking his comment made sense.
by Anonymous | reply 2 | June 19, 2015 12:17 AM |
OK, remedial version. Many, many atheists, especially on DL, think everybody cares that they don't believe in God, because very often being atheist and being smug go hand in hand.
But most people don't care.
These days, most people who do believe in some aspect of a religion don't make a big deal about it. This makes them very different from most atheists.
Get is now, R2?
Honestly, it'll be a long night if we all have to go to these lengths for you.
by Anonymous | reply 3 | June 19, 2015 12:23 AM |
depends where you live. Coming out as an atheist would make no ripple in major cities. You'd be like most others. Same is true for LGBT I guess.
by Anonymous | reply 4 | June 19, 2015 12:23 AM |
Don't worry r1/r3 that's what I thought you said and was confused because I've never seen an atheist go knocking on anyone's door.
People of faith however are perpetually trying to convert everyone else, pass religious laws, refuse you service, deny women choice, it goes on and on and on.
Frankly I've never seen an atheist in here be half that obnoxious.
I don't know where you got the idea that "these days" people don't make a big deal of religion, have you been paying attention lately?
I would think not.
by Anonymous | reply 5 | June 19, 2015 12:28 AM |
Interesting question. I am both, although it was a lot easier for me to acknowledge that I am gay, because the evidence is empirical. It took a lot longer for me to admit that I'm an atheist, rather than just a agnostic, and there's a big difference.
by Anonymous | reply 6 | June 19, 2015 12:31 AM |
[quote]I'm an atheist, rather than just a agnostic, and there's a big difference.
That's true. I take back what I said at r4. Most people in urban areas are probably more agnostic. Atheism would probably get you a bit of a second look. Mostly because even non-believers often have trouble saying they are atheist just because of the "well what if" factor.
by Anonymous | reply 7 | June 19, 2015 12:35 AM |
I'm both too. It was much easier for me to come out as an atheist. I'm wondering why this is.
I guess the approval ratings, so to speak, of LGBT people and atheists are probably about even. So what gives?
by Anonymous | reply 8 | June 19, 2015 12:48 AM |
I have found over my 73 years that religious beliefs are seldom discussed by educated people or ignorant people. All people have beliefs whether it's deity based of simple common sense or the lack of there of. I've also found the final result is pretty much the same for all. When I'm asked what I believe in, I always say the same thing, "the more information I absorb gives me a little more understanding of the ever deepening appreciation of the vastness of my ignorance." I don't even pretend to be concerned with sexuality. Hell, that stuff is fluid and evaporates long before we return to being worm food or charcoal briquettes. So you can scratch off that LBGT bullshit.
by Anonymous | reply 9 | June 19, 2015 12:50 AM |
r9 sounds like they would be a lot of fun at parties.
by Anonymous | reply 10 | June 19, 2015 12:53 AM |
I'm pagan and it was easier--MUCH easier-- coming out as gay. I was born gay, I chose Paganism. My family really doesn't care that I have sex with other men, but they were extremely upset when I mentioned that I don't believe in the christian god or Jesus. Of course, I had to do the whole, "No, I'm NOT a Satanist, I don't even believe in the concept of Satan, blahblahblah" speech.
I think my parents don't grasp the concept that I can't believe in a religion that told me I was sinful, that I was going to hell, that I was an abomination, etc. Pagans and atheists, on the other hand, don't give a fuck and most pagan belief systems are VERY gay accepting.
by Anonymous | reply 11 | June 19, 2015 1:24 AM |
OP needs to banned.
by Anonymous | reply 12 | June 19, 2015 1:31 AM |
Why, r12?
by Anonymous | reply 13 | June 19, 2015 2:02 AM |
I love how very smug R3 gets while claiming that atheists are smug.
by Anonymous | reply 14 | June 19, 2015 2:10 AM |
Neither caused me much turmoil. I guess I'm lucky to be from a non Christo-fundy family and region.
by Anonymous | reply 15 | June 19, 2015 2:45 AM |
My whole family nearly is atheist. No problems there at all
by Anonymous | reply 16 | June 19, 2015 2:46 AM |
[quote]Many, many atheists, especially on DL, think everybody cares that they don't believe in God, because very often being atheist and being smug go hand in hand.
Typical christian-poisoned weasel words.
You can't EVER claim a lack of supernatural beliefs without being accused of all kinds of awful qualities. The Churchies will come for you by any means possible for daring to use your brain, and not fall in lock-step.
by Anonymous | reply 17 | June 19, 2015 2:48 AM |
I think the reason many US atheists are so obnoxious (see Twitter) is because they grow up surrounded by hypocritical, judgemental churchies. I'd probably make a bigger deal of my atheist beliefs if everyone around me was so duped by the narrow-minded hypocrisy that passes for faith in so many communities.
by Anonymous | reply 18 | June 19, 2015 3:08 AM |
[quote] Atheism would probably get you a bit of a second look. Mostly because even non-believers often have trouble saying they are atheist just because of the "well what if" factor.
Agnosticism isn't about 'what if'. It's about not caring enough to even take a stance either way, the acknowledgment that it doesn't concern or affect your life one way or the other. That's the big difference between atheism and agnosticism. Agnostics don't proselytize, but for many atheists it's their life's "mission". (Drum roll, s'il vous plait)
[quote] I'd probably make a bigger deal of my atheist beliefs if everyone around me was so duped by the narrow-minded hypocrisy that passes for faith in so many communities.
I don't think that's it. Even though atheism, on its surface, appears to be the opposite of religion, it fulfills the same psychological need for atheists as religion does for theists. That's why so many of them are as rabid as born again Christians.
by Anonymous | reply 19 | June 19, 2015 3:50 AM |
[quote]I don't think that's it. Even though atheism, on its surface, appears to be the opposite of religion, it fulfills the same psychological need for atheists as religion does for theists. That's why so many of them are as rabid as born again Christians.
This is stupid. I'm an Atheist, it serves no function in my life until rabid religionists make an issue of it. There are no Atheist meetings, no Atheist Churches, no dogma, no commandments, not one single thing that impacts me until some bible thumpers come along.
Atheism isn't the "opposite" of religion, it's a response to religious propaganda - and if there were no religionists, there would be no Atheists.
by Anonymous | reply 20 | June 19, 2015 4:55 AM |
Oh spare me, those people speak for no one but themselves. Unlike your local Catholic Dioces. I repeat there is NO "Atheist" church.
by Anonymous | reply 22 | June 19, 2015 5:16 AM |
[quote]This is stupid. I'm an Atheist, it serves no function in my life until rabid religionists make an issue of it. There are no Atheist meetings, no Atheist Churches, no dogma, no commandments, not one single thing that impacts me until some bible thumpers come along.
This is truth. The only people who make "atheism" (literally "without a god") to be some kind of religion are the theists who cannot conceive of a world view their sky daddy.
by Anonymous | reply 23 | June 19, 2015 5:18 AM |
[quote]... of a world view their sky daddy.
...of a world view WITHOUT their sky daddy ... of course.
by Anonymous | reply 24 | June 19, 2015 5:24 AM |
If you go out of your way to self-label and identify with a certain ideology it's PRECISELY because it serves a purpose or function in your life. Cut the disingenuous bs.
by Anonymous | reply 25 | June 19, 2015 5:26 AM |
Atheism isn't an "ideology."
Stop projecting.
by Anonymous | reply 26 | June 19, 2015 5:33 AM |
As a species we've existed for about 200 thousand years and throughout that time many, many people have been completely certain about many, many things. Many of those things we find completely ludicrous today. And if we exist for another 200 thousands years many, many people will be completely certain about many, many things once again and will view our current beliefs as ludicrous. I can't take anyone who has such certainty without the evidence to prove it. You're just another in a very long like of humans who also believed they knew the TRUTH.
by Anonymous | reply 27 | June 19, 2015 5:34 AM |
Oh so atheism isn't a set of ideas and ideals? Hilarious.
by Anonymous | reply 28 | June 19, 2015 5:37 AM |
[quote]If you go out of your way to self-label and identify with a certain ideology ...
Not at all, R25. You are looking at the issue solely from your own, invested perspective. People who are invested in a god belief (theists) are buying in to a particular ideology. People who are not buying in your god belief (atheists) are rejecting your ideology.
There is no substitute ideology involved no matter how much you want there to be. We are "without" a god. Not "with" a substitute" god, no matter how much you want that to be true.
by Anonymous | reply 29 | June 19, 2015 5:43 AM |
So r28 since you are so informed what "ideals" and "ideas" are common to all atheists besides disbelieving things religionists insist upon?
Enlighten us all.
by Anonymous | reply 30 | June 19, 2015 5:52 AM |
R29
You're exactly the kind of person I'd expect to self-identify as an atheist. You're a black and white thinker with no gray area. Since I don't buy into your silly, evidence free, teenaged rebellion aka atheist ideology it means I'm a theist. No dear, I'm a bit more discerning than that, I need proven facts to back up such certainty. Clearly faith and hope are good enough for you but not for me. If you're going to go out of your way to identify with a certain ideology at least stand by it.
by Anonymous | reply 31 | June 19, 2015 5:55 AM |
r31 can't respond to the point without it being obvious he's a blithering idiot. BRAVO! Nicely done, you've done more to impeach yourself than any of us ever could.
by Anonymous | reply 32 | June 19, 2015 6:00 AM |
Um, the belief that there are no gods or deities is an idea and an ideal, dear.
by Anonymous | reply 33 | June 19, 2015 6:00 AM |
R32= I can't handle any sort of debate or criticism of my ideology. I don't know what ideology means but I'm certain( a common theme in my world) that atheism isn't an ideology.
by Anonymous | reply 34 | June 19, 2015 6:04 AM |
[quote] This is stupid. I'm an Atheist, it serves no function in my life until rabid religionists make an issue of it. There are no Atheist meetings, no Atheist Churches, no dogma, no commandments, not one single thing that impacts me until some bible thumpers come along.
The fact that you’re getting so worked up, love, shows the importance of atheism in your life. Whether that be that it gives you a sense of identity or provides a sense of comfort to you as a lowly, sinful sodomite that you aren’t being judged.
[quote] Atheism isn't the "opposite" of religion, it's a response to religious propaganda - and if there were no religionists, there would be no Atheists.
I thought reason and rationality (ergo: literacy) got atheists dicks hard. Read what the fuck I said, sweetheart. ;)
Let’s try again:
[quote] Even though atheism, on its surface, [bold]appears[/bold] to be the opposite of religion, it [bold]fulfills the same psychological need for atheists as religion does for theists[/bold].
As a learned, lover of knowledge, you do know that not every religion has required places of worship or even direct religious leadership or whatever other accouterments of the Catholic Church you have in mind. That doesn’t make them any less spiritual in nature.
[quote] That's why so many of them are as rabid as born again Christians.
Check and mate, boo.
by Anonymous | reply 35 | June 19, 2015 6:07 AM |
Um, r32 (probably r33 and the rest), telling you your gods don't exist is not a belief according to the English language Sugarplum. Nor is it an "ideal" the only idea is that you've been duped into believing silliness. Not surprising considering the state of your discourse.
r33 is just pussyhurt by an idiot who can't respond to the germane point.
Whatever. I'm done with you.
by Anonymous | reply 36 | June 19, 2015 6:09 AM |
R36 is just more proof of your black and white thinking but I expect that from someone who doesn't know what ideology means or what an idea is. You don't have the intellectual chops to debate this issue which is why you keep going on about some invisible point you're hoping to convince others you've made. You lack intellectual curiosity and that's why you self-identify as an atheist. Like whatever be done then.
by Anonymous | reply 37 | June 19, 2015 6:20 AM |
R31, I'm trying to find some relation in your response to what I said, but there doesn't seem to be any. I am left with the only possible conclusion that you are drunk. Considering the time of night of this (and your) posting, I will assume the truth of that assumption, no matter what response you may be still be (briefly) able to still make tonight.
by Anonymous | reply 38 | June 19, 2015 6:21 AM |
Atheism is an absence of belief (in the supernatural). It is not an anti-religion nor any kind of belief system.
Some atheists have no belief system, but more/many are humanists. Humanism is a belief system based around the golden rule - "do as you would be done by"; a tenet ostensibly shared by all the major religions.
Atheism is not a type of godless religion. Even the subset of atheists labelled militant atheists (and atheist is not a synonym of militant atheist) are not operating under a belief system.
by Anonymous | reply 39 | June 19, 2015 6:25 AM |
In other words R38 my post summed you up perfectly and you can't think of an intelligent response ( not that surprising) so you're only left with accusing me of being drunk. Pick an ideology you know a little about next time, dear.
by Anonymous | reply 40 | June 19, 2015 6:26 AM |
I think atheism as a big deal is very much an American thing. I honestly have no idea of the religious beliefs of my five closest friends and we've known each other for over twenty years. It just isn't really relevant to us.
by Anonymous | reply 41 | June 19, 2015 6:30 AM |
They are ain't called CHRISHITIANS for nothing.
by Anonymous | reply 42 | June 19, 2015 6:41 AM |
R40, you seem to be still unable to respond to my original post at R29 in a cogent manner. If you would like address that without your subsequent and entirely predictable superficial attacks, please feel free.
Do you need me to sum up the issue at hand for you ... again?
by Anonymous | reply 43 | June 19, 2015 6:42 AM |
R41
I read a US opinion poll which had most Americans putting rapists and atheists on an equal moral level! Here in the UK, we wouldn't be having this discussion either. I don't have a single family member, friend or acquaintance who is a practicing Christian. Everyone is either agnostic or atheist.
by Anonymous | reply 44 | June 19, 2015 6:44 AM |
R43, how hilarious is that you speak of predictable superficial attacks after accusing me of being drunk in your previous post because you couldn't handle my post about your obvious black and white thinking. You've made no point no matter how desperately you try to convince everyone that you did. The truth is your post has no real relevance to mine. Your post was nothing but a set of unfounded assumptions. I said nothing about substitute ideologies or anything about my own beliefs or " invested perspective" or "my god." That was just your attempt to build a strawman because you desperately need me to be a theist. If a group of people are lumped together based on a similar idea or belief this is an ideology and/or belief system. Honestly, based on your posts it's clear that you aren't much of a debater and you seem to know little about atheism or what is or isn't an idea or ideology. You're just not up for this. Just go sit down.
by Anonymous | reply 45 | June 19, 2015 7:04 AM |
R41 It's because Americans in particular are obsessed with labeling people and separating people into categories. It's a very us against them, you are either with us or against us mentality. Many Americans base their identities and/or define themselves according to group membership and their opposition to the opposing group. For example a conservative can never admit to agreeing with certain aspects of liberalism or vice versa without hearing it from their group members (and independents are seen as fence riders and that's a bad thing). The same is true for atheist and theist. You're either all in or you're all out.
by Anonymous | reply 46 | June 19, 2015 7:09 AM |
The US is a very broad sample, R44. Pollsters can collect the results they want depending on where and to whom they ask their questions. There are many locations in the US that wouldn't be having "that" disscussion either.
by Anonymous | reply 47 | June 19, 2015 7:10 AM |
Alright R45, you are entirely correct. There is no other point of view that has any validity but yours. You are the absolute master of all perspectives and no one who holds a different idea than your own has any right to express that idea at all. We are all in awe of your magnificent superiority and wouldn't dare dream of holding or, devil take us, expressing an alternate idea from your own, for fear of offending your manifest sense of personally-entitled righteousness. You are God incarnate! We all bow to your self-centered sense superiority.
Satisfied?
by Anonymous | reply 48 | June 19, 2015 7:29 AM |
[quote]People of faith however are perpetually trying to convert everyone else,
That's as big a generalization as "atheists are smug." It's true of some, not of everyone. "People of faith" covers a lot of ground, and not everyone's faith requires them to hate others, as fundamentalists of any religion do.
by Anonymous | reply 49 | June 19, 2015 7:49 AM |
Yes I am, r48. Now go sit down, dear. Sweet dreams.
by Anonymous | reply 50 | June 19, 2015 7:55 AM |
Coming out as gay is a lot worse. Being gay is a more essential part of you than being an atheist, which is a mutable quality. People can see how they themselves could become an atheist, after all they were not born with a belief in God themselves--but becoming gay? They were born straight, so that they will never understand. For that reason, being gay is seen as something weirder, more 'other'. Being gay will elicit more judgment about things such as one's character and even mental health. Being atheist, not so much. Historically people have even tried to ban us from schools and politics. Atheists don't rank high in people's likability pyramid but they've never had to deal with that.
by Anonymous | reply 51 | June 19, 2015 8:05 AM |
I agree with you, R49. The subject is much broader than our individual opinions.
by Anonymous | reply 52 | June 19, 2015 8:24 AM |
Oh, and R50?
Fuck off, you assumptive twat.
by Anonymous | reply 53 | June 19, 2015 8:30 AM |
I agree with R9. Not only is sexuality fluid, and het/homo/bi just labels that we essentialize, terms such as God, believer, atheist, agnostic are also essentialized terms.
by Anonymous | reply 54 | June 19, 2015 9:06 AM |
[quote]I can't take anyone who has such certainty without the evidence to prove it. You're just another in a very long like of humans who also believed they knew the TRUTH.
It's called having faith. It wouldn't be called faith if you had evidence. You just know faith to be the TRUTH in your heart and not require any proof. But I don't know why people would discriminate against atheists. You atheists will be judged soon enough by God, so it's not up to us to judge you.
by Anonymous | reply 55 | June 19, 2015 10:01 AM |
Wow, DL is so diverse we even get ex-gays posting! Hi, r55!
by Anonymous | reply 56 | June 19, 2015 10:12 AM |
I'm glad I live in a country that people just assume you aren't religious unless you say otherwise.
I also enjoy the absolute hysteria thrown out by rabid American Christians as they slowly circle the drains .
by Anonymous | reply 57 | June 19, 2015 10:35 AM |
An intelligent Hell would be better than a stupid paradise.
by Anonymous | reply 58 | June 19, 2015 10:40 AM |
R57
On this thread, it's the determination of that strange person to "prove" that atheism is a belief system akin to a religion that's getting me.
There are belief systems open to atheists - the most common being humanism, as I said earlier - but atheism is not itself a belief system. That people can't understand that is quite bewildering to me.
by Anonymous | reply 59 | June 19, 2015 10:57 AM |
To believe in nothing is absurd. Oh, what empty lives you must lead, full of nothingness. It is Satan at work.
by Anonymous | reply 60 | June 19, 2015 11:44 AM |
[quote] To believe in nothing is absurd. Oh, what empty lives you must lead, full of nothingness. It is Satan at work.
:)
by Anonymous | reply 61 | June 19, 2015 11:50 AM |
Atheists believe all sorts of things, R60. Just none of those things take the form of fairies in the sky. The universe is full of nothing? I hope you are joking.
by Anonymous | reply 62 | June 19, 2015 11:51 AM |
Who the fuck is Holden C? Holden Cock?
by Anonymous | reply 63 | June 19, 2015 12:30 PM |
Lots of angst towards Atheists in this thread.
by Anonymous | reply 64 | June 19, 2015 12:34 PM |
I honestly believe it's more difficult to be a successful artist than to live openly as a gay person. As for atheism, depends on the country I guess. Religion sure has made an unwelcome comeback these past two decades.
by Anonymous | reply 65 | June 19, 2015 12:39 PM |
Atheists are the most disliked group on the planet. People presume they are the most immoral group of people. I have openly hear people tell atheists they are bound for hell and deserve it.
by Anonymous | reply 66 | June 19, 2015 12:40 PM |
Well, it is true that they're immoral and going to hell. Nothing is stopping them from cheating, stealing, lieing, killing, raping women, adultery.
by Anonymous | reply 67 | June 19, 2015 12:48 PM |
In Christianity, you to hell not because of individuals, but because you don't believe in Jesus the Christ as God and Savior. Unbelief is the damnable sin that leads to eternal torment and separation from God.
by Anonymous | reply 68 | June 19, 2015 12:52 PM |
Good grief R67.
by Anonymous | reply 69 | June 19, 2015 1:05 PM |
These days it takes infinitely more courage to be religious. Atheism is what's trendy.
by Anonymous | reply 70 | June 19, 2015 1:10 PM |
Trendy isn't what gets you into heaven.
by Anonymous | reply 71 | June 19, 2015 1:15 PM |
Aren't you all so fucking glad you weren't born in the middle of the Amazon Rainforest? Imagine it - cursed to hell for all eternity because you happen to live in a place that's never heard of the one man who you need to worship in to get into heaven.
by Anonymous | reply 72 | June 19, 2015 1:18 PM |
That's why missionaries exist, R72, to get into these remote places to save these poor people.
by Anonymous | reply 73 | June 19, 2015 1:25 PM |
It's trendy in a very tiny segment of the population
by Anonymous | reply 74 | June 19, 2015 1:27 PM |
I'd love to learn more about the psychology of religious belief. I jus don't understand how anyone could pick up a Bible and actually believe it to be true. It's illogical, irrational and inaccurate. It's totally bizarre.
Of course, I wouldn't give a shit if Christians weren't so determined to inflict their ludicrous beliefs on everyone else.
by Anonymous | reply 75 | June 19, 2015 1:30 PM |
[quote]Agnosticism isn't about 'what if'. It's about not caring enough to even take a stance either way, the acknowledgment that it doesn't concern or affect your life one way or the other.
Really? You haven't got a clue about being agnostic. Agnosticism is the belief that the existence of the ultimate cause, as God, and the essential nature of things are unknown and unknowable, or that human knowledge is limited to experience.
by Anonymous | reply 76 | June 19, 2015 1:39 PM |
I don't even recognise this thread as Datalounge. What have we become?
by Anonymous | reply 77 | June 19, 2015 1:50 PM |
[quote]Um, the belief that there are no gods or deities is an idea and an ideal, dear.
So what about a belief that there is no Tooth Fairy? Is that an idea and an ideal too, mi'lady?
by Anonymous | reply 78 | June 19, 2015 2:28 PM |
Agnosticism is cowardice and imbecility raised to a pretended "moral virtue." R67 is what theists believe, and they believe it because they are told it; and because they believe human nature is degraded and evil. Indeed, their dedication to this belief is so extreme that they feel without religion they would themselves plunder, steal, rape, and murder. That's why most atheists simply leave them alone. But the fact is that religion did not invent morality, and has never had a monopoly on it, and, indeed, is always unethical both in detail and general outline - something Christians easily see in Muslims, Jews, Hindus, Buddhists, or Communists, but never in themselves. Atheism is all about the lack of empirical evidence that there is anything resembling an interested intelligence governing the fates of human individuals. Not only is there no proof, there is not the slightest suggestion of evidence.
by Anonymous | reply 79 | June 19, 2015 2:46 PM |
Anyway to answer the original question, it depends on the person. My college roommate was a strong atheist but couldn't handle coming out as gay. I had no problem with the gay thing but had difficulty coming out as atheist. It wasn't so much about family attitudes - his uncle was gay and his parents were gay supportive - as the fact that he had mixed up homosexuality with silly childish notions about masculinity, social status, and power. And I had mixed up religion with benign qualities or social influence. Neither were true of course, but he couldn't see the one without a mental revolution and it took me awhile to see the other.
by Anonymous | reply 80 | June 19, 2015 2:54 PM |
Good post, r80. Thank you. I intended this thread to be more like your post and not the flame war it's become.
by Anonymous | reply 81 | June 19, 2015 3:00 PM |
Only Viagra gets my dick hard!
by Anonymous | reply 82 | June 19, 2015 3:16 PM |
Nobody outside of the US ever comes out as an atheist. This is not a rite of passage in the sane world.
by Anonymous | reply 83 | June 19, 2015 3:38 PM |
The sane world is smaller than you suppose R83
by Anonymous | reply 84 | June 19, 2015 5:08 PM |
R84
Yes. Sorry. I probably mean 'developed world', don't I? How ethnocentric of me!
by Anonymous | reply 85 | June 19, 2015 5:14 PM |
There is no correlation between sanity and development, as should be obvious to anyone.
by Anonymous | reply 86 | June 19, 2015 6:40 PM |
R85 is an illustration why most of the world despises atheists
by Anonymous | reply 87 | June 19, 2015 8:11 PM |
That is certainly a lie R87. They despise atheists for the reason that has been given earlier: they have been told to by people in power.
by Anonymous | reply 88 | June 19, 2015 8:42 PM |
god did NOT create man-man created god. this was done by so called prophets for power and financial gain. after all religion IS the opiate of the masses.
by Anonymous | reply 89 | June 19, 2015 8:57 PM |
Man also created modern homosexuality, r89. Its creation as an identity remains grounded in parity and equality, as opposed to religion, which remains mutable to various causes.
So why is it so hard to come out?
by Anonymous | reply 90 | June 21, 2015 2:06 AM |
[quote]god did NOT create man-man created god.
This is what the devil wants you to believe. Boy, the devil is having a field day.
by Anonymous | reply 91 | June 21, 2015 2:14 AM |
You don't "become" an atheist, you simply go back to being one. EVERYONE is born atheist.
by Anonymous | reply 92 | June 21, 2015 2:22 AM |
No, everyone is born with Jesus inside of him. Whether you choose to accept Him coming inside you is another matter. Atheism is a conscious choice made by the fool hearty.
by Anonymous | reply 93 | June 21, 2015 2:26 AM |
Funny how the religious loons find their way to push their sick agenda on the world.
by Anonymous | reply 94 | June 22, 2015 2:12 PM |
[quote]No, everyone is born with Jesus inside of him. Whether you choose to accept Him coming inside you is another matter.
Jesus came inside of me this weekend. I accepted every drop. Love you Papi, and your eight inches!!!
by Anonymous | reply 95 | June 22, 2015 2:26 PM |
R1/R3 clearly doesn't live in the south.
Being atheist is worse than being gay... a bigger slap in the face to families, etc.
You don't know what the fuck you're talking about, and you have the audacity to try and smear atheists as 'smug'? I'm laughing at you.
by Anonymous | reply 96 | June 22, 2015 2:37 PM |
Gay cannot be changed usually, but atheists can always find Jesus Christ :)
by Anonymous | reply 97 | January 4, 2021 10:34 PM |
Atheists, like tattoos, are more common than not these days.
by Anonymous | reply 98 | January 4, 2021 10:44 PM |
Both are extremely tough in backwards third world shitholes, like Somalia, Saudi Arabia or Mississippi
Google apostates of Islam to see just how tough ex-Muslims do it - even in the first world it can be scary -and life threatening - for them. Not that its much different in the more backwards parts of the American South either
by Anonymous | reply 99 | January 4, 2021 10:51 PM |