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I find the buttfucking scene from Brokeback Mountain unconvincing

Seriously, they fucked after they had beans for dinner? I saw no evidence that either of them douched their asses first.

by Anonymousreply 87November 11, 2014 11:54 PM

You're kidding, right?

If not I never understood this line of thought. They're cowboys camping in the rough, not as prissy as modern gays. The one criticism that makes some sense to me is Ledger gets it in with only a little spit... but if I recall the scene makes it out to be pretty painful and not at all easy.

by Anonymousreply 1November 9, 2014 2:11 PM

I loved the scene that showed them wildly kissing after they hadn't seen each other for a year. They were outside Ennis apartment and just throwing themselves at each other. So hot.

by Anonymousreply 2November 9, 2014 2:34 PM

Ennis should have slapped jack around more

by Anonymousreply 3November 9, 2014 2:35 PM

Oooh, when we finish this timely discussion about BBM, can we talk about FOLLIES?

by Anonymousreply 4November 9, 2014 2:44 PM

Re post: O M G LOL

by Anonymousreply 5November 9, 2014 3:00 PM

Maybe they were into chili-dogging.

by Anonymousreply 6November 9, 2014 3:04 PM

R3 = Jian Ghomeshi

by Anonymousreply 7November 9, 2014 3:08 PM

Oh, brother.......

by Anonymousreply 8November 9, 2014 3:08 PM

Actually, yes, in the original Annie Proulx story, Jack had brought a twelve-pack of Summer's Eve and a couple of gallons of Clorox with him up the mountain, and excused himself to douche and shave / bleach his hole before the fucked.

I guess they cut that scene so the movie wouldn't be too long.

by Anonymousreply 9November 9, 2014 3:12 PM

Unless Jake had IBS, normal eating to pooping takes from 30 to 48 hours, so.....no bean shit problem.

by Anonymousreply 10November 9, 2014 3:15 PM

whoa R10 that's some pretty SLoooOW digestive tract you've got there.

by Anonymousreply 11November 9, 2014 3:18 PM

Should have been called "Bareback Mountain"

by Anonymousreply 12November 9, 2014 3:18 PM

So original, r12!

by Anonymousreply 13November 9, 2014 3:36 PM

What gay movie or TV show actually shows the bottom getting ready? Not Queer As Folk, not Looking - guys have sex without douching first all the time and they never brought up the dirt issue.

by Anonymousreply 14November 9, 2014 3:42 PM

r11 au contraire mon frere.

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by Anonymousreply 15November 9, 2014 3:46 PM

Who are all of these demented virgins who think you have to douche to have anal sex? Some of you need to live in the real world and actually have sex, I guess.

by Anonymousreply 16November 9, 2014 3:51 PM

It's the influence of porn R16 Same reason shaved pubes and bleached asses have become so popular

by Anonymousreply 17November 9, 2014 4:01 PM

We can only accept these points:

Jake prelubed

Heath has a really small penis

Jake had a stretched out hole

Otherwise, that scene would have Jake screaming like a heifer in childbirth.

At least the position was convincing, unlike other movies who have the top man fucking like he's fucking a woman. (No dear the asshole is a little further down).

by Anonymousreply 18November 9, 2014 4:04 PM

Anybody who complains about a little shit is an idiot. It's sex - it's hot and spontaneous. Also, it's the ass - guess what comes out. You can go on and on about douching all day long but things are what they are - it's not like vaginas are that great after they all pounded up either, queefing with gum oozing out.

by Anonymousreply 19November 9, 2014 4:28 PM

r19 I'm a powerbottom and I can tell you at least 90% of tops get super pissed at the sight of shit, like ready-to-kick-you-out pissed... It is expected that a bottom should douche and do her tricks to come clean and prepared, like in a porn set...

Just saying...

by Anonymousreply 20November 9, 2014 4:33 PM

"Jake had a stretched out hole"

Which is why I called it 'Broken in Mountain'.

by Anonymousreply 21November 9, 2014 4:41 PM

R20, aren't you more likely to get HIV if you powerclean your hole?

by Anonymousreply 22November 9, 2014 4:48 PM

Power clean. Ouch

by Anonymousreply 23November 9, 2014 4:52 PM

Powerbottoms powerclean, n'est-ce pas?

by Anonymousreply 24November 9, 2014 4:54 PM

R10 is neglecting the indisputable fact that they had had beans every night, and probably for every meal, since they'd been in that camp.

by Anonymousreply 25November 9, 2014 4:57 PM

Beans must be a natural lubricant.

by Anonymousreply 26November 9, 2014 4:59 PM

Butt fucking doesn't sound very intimate. It's all so mechanical. Sounds more like an exercise to me.

by Anonymousreply 27November 9, 2014 4:59 PM

r22 No, bec I don't do bareback, so it wouldn't matter..

by Anonymousreply 28November 9, 2014 10:13 PM

Then his dick wouldn't touch your shit, anyway. This 21st century obsession with male douching is silly.

by Anonymousreply 29November 10, 2014 2:12 AM

At first, I thought the start of it was like a rape.

by Anonymousreply 30November 10, 2014 2:17 AM

[quote]Should have been called "Bareback Mountain"

Or Bareback Mountin'.

by Anonymousreply 31November 10, 2014 2:17 AM

[quote]Anybody who complains about a little shit is an idiot. It's sex - it's hot and spontaneous.


by Anonymousreply 32November 10, 2014 2:25 AM

No more beans.

by Anonymousreply 33November 10, 2014 2:28 AM

If you can't put up with a little shit, you have no business being gay.

by Anonymousreply 34November 10, 2014 2:28 AM

I went to Brokeback Mountain and got a broke backside from the mountin'

by Anonymousreply 35November 10, 2014 2:33 AM

It wasn't a porn scene, it was a couple of men who were in love and out in the woods.

by Anonymousreply 36November 10, 2014 2:39 AM

It was a BORING movie. And the "love" between them was totally unconvincing.

by Anonymousreply 37November 10, 2014 2:45 AM

The love between them was awkward. Convincingly awkward.

by Anonymousreply 38November 10, 2014 2:47 AM

Beanback Mountain

by Anonymousreply 39November 10, 2014 2:49 AM

Crash was the better movie.

by Anonymousreply 40November 10, 2014 2:51 AM

He fucked that hole!

And then they ate fried chicken.

by Anonymousreply 41November 10, 2014 2:52 AM

When i lost my virginity to a high school mate in a tent, we didn't use any lube, don't know how it worked, it wouldn't now.

by Anonymousreply 42November 10, 2014 2:55 AM

Crash sucked more than Ennis and Jack.

by Anonymousreply 43November 10, 2014 2:57 AM

But it was still better than Bumfuck Mountain.

by Anonymousreply 44November 10, 2014 2:58 AM

No, I preferred Brokeback over Crash.

by Anonymousreply 45November 10, 2014 3:09 AM

Buttfuck was such an uplifting story...Jake's character gets killed while changing a flat tire, just like every gay story ended those days. And Heath's character gets to love a shirt. I find it hard to think of a more HORRIBLE gay story. Annie Proulx should have stuck to writing about straights, for straights. Just the WORST gay story.

by Anonymousreply 46November 10, 2014 3:14 AM

Brokeback Mountain is the anti-Crash. It tells us all that we are the inhumane jerks who perpetuate homophobia, who keep the jean jacket in the closet.

by Anonymousreply 47November 10, 2014 3:33 AM

I like that, R47. I like that.

by Anonymousreply 48November 10, 2014 3:36 AM

BROKEBACK was so boring. And it was comical how the characters never aged. Sure, they'd put silly wigs on Anne Hathaway and a pornstache on Gyllenhaal, but they didn't have creases on their faces or anything. They looked like young people wearing old people Halloween costumes.

I've never seen CRASH, so I can't judge it.

by Anonymousreply 49November 10, 2014 4:44 AM

r49 Ledger aged well/appropriately in BBM, he was the only believable one. Take a closer look on your next viewing, you'll see what I mean.

by Anonymousreply 50November 10, 2014 7:16 AM

Clearly it wasn't the first time for either of them, but the people who made the movie wanted us to think it was.

Next time, have a gay advisor.

by Anonymousreply 51November 10, 2014 7:23 AM

Pardon me, B*R*onze Age Gay @ 50. Thanks ever so.

by Anonymousreply 52November 10, 2014 9:30 AM

"Crash was the better movie."

No, it wasn't. Most people agree that it was a total shock and travesty that the execrable Crash won the Oscar for Best Picture and not Brokeback Mountain. It was homophobia that prevented BB from winning. It lost a lot of votes simply because a lot of Academy members didn't want to give the best picture Oscar to a movie about two men in love.

by Anonymousreply 53November 10, 2014 3:49 PM

"No, it wasn't."

Yes, it was. Homophobia is what brought Brokeback into existence. Damn Annie Proulx to hell after being beaten to death with a tire iron. It is a story that should not have been told any longer by 2005. It's a homophobe's delight.


by Anonymousreply 54November 10, 2014 3:54 PM

There were Academy members who went on record saying they refused to even WATCH Brokeback.

R53 is right.

But back to buttsex and beans. Yeah it probably would have been a bit messy, but clearly Ennis came to like fucking Jack's ass so much - stink and all - that he made his wife take it up the ass as well. Also if they ate beans all the time, their GI tracts probably got more used to it. Think about it, Mexicans don't all have violent diarrhea all the time, right? So it could be the same for cowboys who ate beans.

by Anonymousreply 55November 10, 2014 3:58 PM

I WISH I had not watched Brokeback, R55. And I have no problem with being gay. Not a self-hater.

by Anonymousreply 56November 10, 2014 4:02 PM

There is nothing hotter than two men stinkin' up a tent without the bottom having to stop to clean his ass like a princess. It's real men fucking.

by Anonymousreply 57November 10, 2014 4:05 PM

Can anyone else see the resemblance of BBM to Shakespeare's "Romeo and Juliet"? The 2 main characters live in the same world, more or less; antagonistic families; both kept apart by forces beyond their control; 2 deaths at the end(one actual, the other a death of the "soul") Anyone?

by Anonymousreply 58November 10, 2014 4:05 PM

Historical context

by Anonymousreply 59November 10, 2014 4:17 PM

Crash sucked. It was basically a corny After School Special script with a bunch of popular celebrities thrown in.

by Anonymousreply 60November 10, 2014 4:26 PM

I am sure they would be considered "Fiber Queens" given all the beans that were consumed.

by Anonymousreply 61November 10, 2014 4:53 PM

"Yes, it was. Homophobia is what brought Brokeback into existence. Damn Annie Proulx to hell after being beaten to death with a tire iron. It is a story that should not have been told any longer by 2005. It's a homophobe's delight.


You're an idiot with the IQ of a tree.

by Anonymousreply 62November 10, 2014 4:56 PM

[quote]Crash sucked. It was basically a corny After School Special script with a bunch of popular celebrities thrown in.

I give it an F. If it had had any intellectual honesty, I could bump it up to a D-.

by Anonymousreply 63November 10, 2014 4:57 PM

That's it, R62. Why argue facts when you can call me names.

by Anonymousreply 64November 10, 2014 5:01 PM

What the hell is a "powerbottom?" Sounds like a vacuum cleaner attachment, for chrissake. Who would describe himself that way? Good lord. How embarassing for you.

by Anonymousreply 65November 10, 2014 5:11 PM

Ugh. Queens who don't think this was "convincing" are silly, tasteless cunts, who probably thought that the live-birth abortion that was "Broken Hearts Club" was more realistic.

by Anonymousreply 66November 10, 2014 5:20 PM

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by Anonymousreply 67November 10, 2014 5:34 PM

R67 hits a new all-time low for DL by projecting his own self-loathing onto those of us who are merely concerned about dramatic verisimilitude. There is nothing homophobic about that.

by Anonymousreply 68November 10, 2014 5:42 PM

You are confusing being convinced with being approving.

by Anonymousreply 69November 10, 2014 5:43 PM

R68, I doubt you know what you're talking about.

by Anonymousreply 70November 10, 2014 5:46 PM

R70 only laughs whenever a laugh track tells him to.

by Anonymousreply 71November 10, 2014 5:50 PM

"Why argue facts when you can call me names."

You wouldn't know a fact if it bit you on your lumpy, pimply ass.

by Anonymousreply 72November 10, 2014 5:57 PM

Uh-oh. It's TransTroll, folks, whose only success in life is being a mean girl (of whatever gender).

by Anonymousreply 73November 10, 2014 6:00 PM


by Anonymousreply 74November 10, 2014 6:12 PM

R71 is a sorry, vile bitch!

The sickening self loathing and homophobic homos are as bad as the freepers.

by Anonymousreply 75November 10, 2014 6:18 PM

R75 is also R67, in case you're curious.

It is not self-loathing or homophobic to question the veracity of a sex scene in a movie just because it's a gay sex scene. You want equality, don't you? With equality comes the same level of critical scrutiny a heterosexual sex scene gets.

You want to talk homophobic? How about some of the stars' post-hoc comments about filming the scene? And whom who was actually involved in the scene is actually gay?

by Anonymousreply 76November 10, 2014 6:35 PM

Oh please. It's called "poetic license." Have you ever seen a straight flick where they finally get ready to fuck and the snatch says, "Sorry, stud. Aunt Flo's in town." --- cut to credits.

No. You haven't.

by Anonymousreply 77November 10, 2014 11:23 PM

Gagging @ the thought of anal without any preparation. So when you bump into shit what do you do?

by Anonymousreply 78November 10, 2014 11:25 PM

Seriously, for as many cans of beans they were eating out there, they should have been sitting by the campfire shooting methane bombs out of their asses.

by Anonymousreply 79November 10, 2014 11:50 PM

[quote]No. You haven't.

Because I don't care for movies that depict heterosexual sex explicitly unless they make it into a joke.

by Anonymousreply 80November 10, 2014 11:55 PM

I don't think they had any Kleenex to clean the poop off his wiener.

by Anonymousreply 81November 11, 2014 12:05 AM

"I don't think they had any Kleenex to clean the poop off his wiener."

Why do you think the next scene was them running naked and jumping in the water?

by Anonymousreply 82November 11, 2014 12:23 AM

What did Ang Lee know about men sex? He directed this whole picture like they were geisha girls. The film should be called M. Brokeback Butterly.

by Anonymousreply 83November 11, 2014 12:51 AM

Beans or not all I know is my pole got all twitchy at the thought of porking Jakey G! Still does.

by Anonymousreply 84November 11, 2014 1:12 AM

Anus anus anus!

by Anonymousreply 85November 11, 2014 1:18 AM

Ennis fucked a different hole. Think of the wound-fucking in Crash by JG Ballard. As a teen ranch hand, Jack had an accident with a violent stallion that gave him a deep, fleshy gash in the ass. A bad stitch job followed. The wound healed, more or less. This hole took Ennis. No lube.

by Anonymousreply 86November 11, 2014 1:31 AM

Wait, so now it makes you more of a man to not mind shit on your dick?

by Anonymousreply 87November 11, 2014 11:54 PM
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