Vadim Black why he does Gay 4 Pay - You do what every it takes to survive.

I just don't believe there is such a thing as gay for pay. I think they are all gay, but they're as closeted as Rep. Aaron Schock in that they just cannot admit that they're gay.

I also don't believe that these porn studios are as nice to work for as these porn performers say. I like watching porn, but the business must be a sleazy way to earn money.

More fiction.

One might have a drink and let a man blow him off camera for money, but when you commit to film you are gay all the way.

I believe this is what they call "marketing"

Mr. Black recently created some controversy by using the "F" word. (NSFW) It's alluded to in the interview, but he responded "no comment."

I wonder if his girlfriend knows he does bareback scenes.

R4 so he said Fudge

gay4pay is just another pathetic way for self-hating bisexual men to toss around the "I don't believe in labels" malarkey.

Damn. I thought this thread was about a hot guy.

A myth

Please.

Adam Bryant Fucks Vadim Black in 'Son of A Preacher Man'

[quote] The most challenging thing about my job would be taking a dick in my ass and the best part is meeting new people

How Enlightening!

The "Dick in My Ass Challenge"! He also seems to willing to take "The Cock in My Mouth Challenge".

There are easier ways to survive in life for straight guys than doing gay porn, I would recommend education, back to school.

me too

R13, damn what a frau response. Education/going back to school will likely get you more debt and the chances of getting a job right out of school isn't that high. If you can't afford school, what do you do? I'm not defending Black but for some of these not very bright guys, there's not a whole lot to do but shake your dick in front of a camera.

And so soon after his mum, Cilla passed on!

R15 Yes there is. There are lots of not very bright guys with little next to no money and they don't work in gay porn. Call me frau or whatever you like to, but there are ways to make a living.

I completely agree with R15. Some queens here have lived very sheltered lives.

Everybody hates their job -- if they loved doing every aspect of their job they would do it for free. Is it so hard to believe an actor playing a role can do the job convincingly while hating the character they play or what it is required for that character to do? Anthony Hopkins played Hitler but that doesn't make him a Nazi in real life; why can't a g4p performer do yhe same? It's always clear when a BAD g4p actor is unconconvincing (hello Cody Cummings), so why is it so hard to believe some str8 petformers CAN give a convincing performance that is just that... a performance?

" Anthony Hopkins played Hitler but that doesn't make him a Nazi in real life; why can't a g4p performer do yhe same?"

I'm sure there is a niche market for porn performers acting as Hitler in their films ( I can see gay neocons really eating that up). However, Anthony Hopkins didn't actually run Germany, or exterminate millions while filming his role, whereas "gay for pay" performers do actually perform gay sex in their films.

I realize this must be a very fine distinction for you. But I have faith that you may one day be able to understand.

He is really hot. What country is he from? Vadim?

Did he change his name from Vadim Schwarz?

R20- and Meryly Streep cries REAL tears, but that diesn't mean she's really sad.

R15/R18 make their livings being professional victims.

Oh, woe is me! School is so expensive, I can't even afford to go to junior college. Waa, Waa, nobody will pay me $30/hour even though I don't know my ass from a hole in the ground. Sob, sob, I can't believe every job I've been offered makes me start at the bottom rather than CEO. Why is life so unfair? I guess I'll just have to turn to porn in order to support my self.

Have never understood this 'straight' guy choice .............if straight porn pays half as much as gay porn .......... do two straight scenes ...........it's pretty simple math.

R24, Typing away in the basement of his mom's house while staring at his MFA in Musical Theatre from the University of Arizona.

Wrong, R26. Took early retirement at 61 and now living in my fully paid for house on a very generous severance payment.

No soup for you.

And at 61 still trolling on DL. My what a full life you must lead.

Adam Bryant is hot to death, a true Alpha Male bull

How did I know R27 was an eldergay on a thread about Gay4pay porn?

[quote]The most challenging thing about my job would be taking a dick in my ass and the best part is meeting new people

There's a Miss America answer if I ever heard one - "Thank you Miss Oklahoma!"

[quote]The most challenging thing about my job would be taking a dick in my ass and the best part is meeting new people

I am definitely using this on my resume. In fact I am putting it in my cover letter as well!!

Vadim is a Russian orphan.

DLers never disappoint when it comes to provincial thinking regarding sexuality.

Check out some of the occasional WHET threads on former porn stars. A fair number settled down (with women) and had kids. Except for those few like Ryan Idol who tried to murder his girlfriend with a ceramic toilet lid.

[quote]Vadim is a Russian orphan.

Lucky guy!

"and Meryly Streep cries REAL tears, but that diesn't mean she's really sad."

Meryly? That's just sad.

Apparently ithe typo was from Glen Close's autocorrect. Not sad at all.

"do what every it takes to survive."

That's "do WHOMever, sweetie!" You're a whore!

So you DLers think that everyone in the sex industry just fits tidily into the same box?I think there's as many different stories of how some of these guys fall into this as there are guys.I also don't believe they're "straight" on a Kinsey 0 scale either,and some of them are clearly closet cases,but human sexuality is complicated.For that matter human nature is complicated.Do you really think money is not a motivating factor for some of them?If you've dropped out of school, been rejected by your family,crave attention,have some kind of addiction,are a narcissist ,WHATEVER-porn can start to look like a pretty good prospect.At least if 7-Eleven is your alternative.I can fully believe that some of them are sexually attracted to men on some level,but would prefer sexual/emotional relationships with women.

Vadim Black latest pictures

It's something to say. For instance, I knew JC Carter an older porn star from the late 90s. He was gay back then, he's gay in real life and he's gay, gay, gay. He used to admit it, but now he's suddenly "Bi."

Well it's up to you how to identify but you're gay.

These guys call themselves bisexual and gay 4 pay so that they can jack up their escort rates. Many gay guys get off on being fucked by guys who also fuck chicks.

Wow, there sure are a lot of desperate queens hoping and praying their porn sluts will be truly straight so they can fap to them.

What every it takes? Oh, dear.

This g4p bullshit is just that! The only straight men I can think of that would fuck another man or get fucked by another man is either a drug addict or homeless or both.

Any other scenario they are NOT straight! The girlfriends are props just like the closet cases in Hollywood. The naivete here and on the countless SC threads is astounding but not surprising.

The thing is most of them like so many people in the world have a very ignorant and plain understanding of sexuality (ironic since they work in porn) They probably fancy themselves straight because in their minds they don't want to date men, but they occasionally get off on gay sex. It's common for male bisexuals to have some male sexual attractions but only romantic female attraction and this leads them to believe they are still entirely straight based on that premise, but they are actually bi

Just saw Vadim on MTV's "This Life" and it was sort of weird. I'm buying that he's straight but I don't get how he thinks he can have a healthy love life while lying. Anyone know if Vadim has yet filmed his porn w/ his friend Julian??

[quote]It's something to say. For instance, I knew JC Carter an older porn star from the late 90s. He was gay back then, he's gay in real life and he's gay, gay, gay. He used to admit it, but now he's suddenly "Bi."

r41, in an interview he talked about how he was married to a woman and had a couple of kids so I always considered him to be bi anyway. He was doing bareback porn before it became all the rage.

He's homophobic, right wing gun-nut and comes from fairborn Ohio.

Gay for pay. They're all delusional. How about just saying, "Gay and they get paid."

Yeah, I bet he has a girlfriend. He very well may have a girlfriend. Check back in a year or two--or years down the road and let us know how that heterosexual thing worked out for you.

Obviously fake page, R48. Try again.

Vadim is quite handsome! FB shows Dayton OH as where he is living but on This Life he was living in FL, I think.

If you check his twitter he now claims to be pansexual. He has been starring in some tranny porn too.

[quote]I just don't believe there is such a thing as gay for pay. I think they are all gay, but they're as closeted

If a closeted, gay guy can force himself to marry a woman and sire children with her, in an attempt to appear hetero or 'normal,' then why can't a straight guy force himself to have sex with another guy for money? It is a driving and enticing factor for many.

I think it was a lot harder to be Gay4Pay (at least as a top) before Viagra and Cialis.

If you don't believe in gay-for-pay, you're a self-deluded chauvinist who has to project himself and his sexuality on to everybody else.

Just like homophobic straight people have to project and read their sexuality on to everybody else.

You're wrong.

Most men don't want to have sex with other men. That's the natural reality and you just have to accept it.

You should be elated that the natural reality also shows that most people are capable of bisexual activity and even pleasure.

School is easier than fucking, r13?

Back to the Mother Ship, with you! We're talking about planet Earth, here.

Or maybe YOU should get off your ass and work for Vadim because you're UGLY, r24.

And maybe that's the natural order of things.

[quote]Wow, there sure are a lot of desperate queens hoping and praying their porn sluts will be truly straight so they can fap to them.

Hunh?

"These guys," r39, "fall into this" because YOU can't live without their CONSTANT PORN.

You, the consumer, are every bit as much "rejected by your family," "craving attention" and "having some kind of addiction" to sex.

Nobody would do porn if YOU didn't want and use it.

If you're a woman, you can't relate. You have to realize that half of the population is male and wants sex much more intensely than you ever will.

If you're a gay man, quit being such a judgmental hypocrite. I'd like to see you stop fapping yourself into a frenzy over guys like Vadim Black.

Either way, you're ignorant and you're fighting a battle against human nature you will NEVER win.

Sock it to him, R59!

Bitch, please.

Just curious why it matters? If you're having sex with a hot guy then why would you start trying to catorgorize everything and not just go with the flow?

Only losers concern themselves with the lives of others.

Another "straight" male thread to block.

What porn companies feature exclusively gay casting? Any?

Really R55 ? Then somebody should have told the 100s , if not 1000s of men I had sex with in a 30 year sexual career . In MY experience , if the situation is right , most men will fuck anything .

Tim Tales, Guys in Sweatpants and Helix Studios I believe don't use any gay for pay guys.

I think gay for pay could be real. For the money, it can't be that hard to tolerate a dick in your ass even if it's not your thing. Anyone see the Louis Theroux documentary from the 90s? Louis was skeptical about the guy's claim that was he straight ,but I looked him up, and later he married a female porn star and only did scenes with her.

I don't think people claim these guys have to be gay, just that they are not actually straight. Bisexuality is a real thing.

[quote]If a closeted, gay guy can force himself to marry a woman and sire children with her, in an attempt to appear hetero or 'normal,' then why can't a straight guy force himself to have sex with another guy for money? It is a driving and enticing factor for many.

But here's the thing: it's not like these guys are making tens of thousands of dollars - they're making about $500 a scene, possibly $1,000 and $2,000 tops (and that's only if they're very popular). Would a truly straight guy do that for such low pay? Again, I could see if it was tens of thousands of dollars, but not hundreds or even grand or two.

The gay-4-pays and the closet cases are all part of the same hypocrisy - the shared unwillingness by themselves and others to admit their obvious bisexuality.

Exactly! Someone whose point I share!

R10, those skin doodles are hysterical.

Uh huh

I've never understood why people feel the need to shame those who do porn, regardless of how they (or YOU) identify sexually. Who cares if someone is gay or bi or straight in porn?

R74 Hi Vadim!

If someone pays me to attend a mosque, even dozens of times, I'm still not Muslim, not even a little bit. I'm just someone who accepted money to do something I'd never willingly do under other circumstances.

R76 you are ignorant, son

Nope, just realistic. Sadly, most DLers are provincial and parochial about sexuality.

If an otherwise straight guy sleeps with men for money in a porn, you can label him bisexual but that's your fantasy, not his.

In his private life, he'll continue to date, fuck, marry women. He'll never sleep with you or any other guy for fun.

It's no different than lesbian streetwalkers. They fuck men to get paid but they'd never willingly do it for free.

Christ on a cracker not another thread about this hung like a hamster midget Ruskie grifter and his pathetic attempt at getting his 15 minutes of porn infamy stretched to 16 minutes.

He's fucking gorgeous.

He's very cute but ..... drugs..... :/

Does he escort? I'd pay big money.

[quote]He's fucking gorgeous.

And he's gorgeous fucking.

Tight bro

Who is the other dude?

[quote]There are easier ways to survive in life for straight guys than doing gay porn, I would recommend education, back to school.

That's not an option when one is dumb as a bag of garden mulch.

He's ugly and straight... some guys simply don't have any luck.

He's hot

R87 He's FAR from ugly.

So basically, by him saying "you do what you have to do to survive", the takeaway is that to him gay sex is tantamount to murder, theft, deception,mistreatment of others etc. or maybe like doing the most vile, disgusting, soul crushing job like cleaning a months worth of shit out of a portable toilet.

Very flattering...and gay media keeps promoting these losers.

If he's hot, people don't care

"The most challenging thing about my job would be taking a dick in my ass ..."

Some people who consider that the best part.

Obviously, he's not ugly but he's FAR from hot.

The fact that he's too lazy and stupid to go out and truly make something out of his life instead of just taking the whores way out is not respectable in the least and certainly not hot.

R85 that is Allen King. He had only nice things to say about working with Vadim:

Sexy

His lack of alpha-ness is only too apparent in his phenotypic deficiency in the lower jaw area. This is a certified bitchboy fem no matters what "he" claims

Uh what

Jane has 100% Straight. Dick takes 17 gay pornos away from Jane and gives them to Puff. How much Straight does Jane have left?

Vadim Black is gay for pay? Thanks for the heads up. Will NOT be watching anymore of his videos then.

I am a gay man and even I can't take someone's dick in my ass - unless I really want their dick in my ass. So-called "gay for pay" must be an incredibly distressing thing to do to yourself. I wouldn't do it. There are other jobs.

I think he's hot, but it's a shame about his cock. But that seems to be the way it always is.

R76 talk about false equivalence smh, go fuck yourself you Vadim asskisser!

R74 you sir are class A moron! He isn't being shamed for simply doing porn, He's a proven homophobic, illiterate scam artist with serious mental issues, deep self-loathing and and ego the size of Jupiter, that's why anyone with any sense with avoid his pathetic ass like the plague he is.

When it comes to gay porn yes sexuality DOES matter you asswipe, unless you somehow don't understand how much shit gay people still go through in this world. Gay porn should not be a haven for anti-gay criminals no matter how "hot" they are. Like can we raise the standards please? These g4p douchebags should be blacklisted like the trash they are. Not the decent g4ps (the very few that exist) but the homophobes, republicans and criminals (gay ones included here) are filth and shouldn't be making money off gay men

R102 , I'm not R74 but to be fair a lot of these guys are in line for the same violenc, abuse and shaming from straight guys who don't make such nuanced distinctions between G4P just regular faggotry. That a straight guy (of which I'm very sceptical but not entirely closed-minded) would CHOOSE to incur that same shit does involve a degree of bravery or maybe maybe reckless foolhardiness. The level of your personal hatred for these guys seems unwarranted at best and disturbingly unhinged at worst. It's just porn -- knock one out or don't, and keep it movin.

[quote]Not the decent g4ps (the very few that exist) but the homophobes, republicans and criminals (gay ones included here) are filth and shouldn't be making money off gay men

I agree with the sentiment behind this. However, I don't knock anyone for making a living. They're not forcing these idiots to give them their money. I say, if you continue to pay for services that employ these homophobic G4Ps, buy the stupid shit they hock or send them money for bail, you deserve whatever humiliation/ridicule that comes your way.

Dssh

R104, but shouldn't the industry in itself take some part of the blame? How about NOT hiring the homophobes, criminals etc? if they really care about their industry and take it seriously, then they shouldn't employ these people in the first place. There is nothing wrong with doing porn, or being the head of a porn company. It's just.. the people behind these companies, they are the reason the industry gets a bad rep, because they are not careful enough. Something should be done about it. Not hiring these people, or firing them when they find out about their behavior, would be a start.

@102 ---- wow, can't you express a differing opinion without name calling, attacking, and being nasty about it?

I eat shit.

I'm an angry single sex addict.

R107 sorry to have disturbed your delicate sensibilities you poor daffodil... Fuck off!!!

R103 LMAO

you were saying...

[quote] I just don't believe there is such a thing as gay for pay.

the delusions of most caftan flappers on this site.

R112 showing his pseudo homophobia. Isn't there a Republican convention you should be attending?

I raped my grandfather with a pitchfork then fucked his corpse.

Is there a gay version of a frau? Obsessing over a (porn) star's sexuality is clearly classic frau behavior.

@110 -- Recently dumped or never dated? Don't be ashamed to get some help, lamb-chop.

He's cute but all the drugs he needs to take just to do a porn scene is crazy. Is he Jewish?

[quote]Is he Jewish?

Yes, because they are famous for being uncut.

How can anyone be attracted to this toxic and vile homophobe? Have some standards, you don't have to like everything because it's pretty

[quote][R104], but shouldn't the industry in itself take some part of the blame? How about NOT hiring the homophobes, criminals etc? if they really care about their industry and take it seriously, then they shouldn't employ these people in the first place. There is nothing wrong with doing porn, or being the head of a porn company. It's just.. the people behind these companies, they are the reason the industry gets a bad rep, because they are not careful enough. Something should be done about it. Not hiring these people, or firing them when they find out about their behavior, would be a start.

No. They hire the homophobes and criminals because that's what consumers want. Supply and Demand. Capitalism. Free enterprise--all that good stuff. Hell, I don't blame them because everyone needs to make a living, and it's not like they're the tobacco industry pushing Cancer sticks to underage kids. As simplistic and condescending as it sounds, if it's not your thing, don't participate. It's not mine, so I don't.

Though I do act all judgmental and sanctimonious about it whenever I get a chance. LOL

@119 ---- you're right, I don't HAVE to like someone just because he's pretty .... but I CHOOSE to. So let me enjoy what I enjoy and you can go on with your bitchy life LOL

I think he's HOT!

R121 a self loather

@123 ... sounds like your friends have to get your approval if they want to date a certain person, because if YOU don't like someone then they shouldn't like that person. Piss off. Just go vote for Trump and STFU. Or do you also have to be controlling and get the last word in......let's see.

Pretty eyes

R25, I'm embarrassed to say I never thought of that. Seriously.

Mind. Blown.

[quote] How can anyone be attracted to this toxic and vile homophobe? Have some standards, you don't have to like everything because it's pretty

I don't mind his homophobia. It's his stank sleeve I can't abide.

It's hardly a stretch to say that most porn performers, G4P or not, are lazy, dumb, and have poor executive and goal-directed functioning.

So to that end, fucking is easier than school, I suppose.

It's definitely one of those "What else could he do" situations. Too much of a mess to do anything else.

Brad Banks

I normally like facial hair but it doesn't work on Vadim. The top is however amazing.

Hot dude

So pretty. So fucked up.

[quote]So pretty. So fucked up.

Yep. Beautiful but psycho. Only thing I have to add is that he can't be completely straight as much as he loves eating ass.

He’s hot

👃👅👟

[quote] Some queens here have lived very sheltered lives.

Tell us naïve fair maidens about the marvels you have seen, O worldly one!

He's handsome and well built, but he's quite short.

.......

.......

Is he still active?

Who is bumping all these G4P threads? And WHY?

[quote]How about NOT hiring the homophobes, criminals etc?

Because people with half a brain (not homophobes) and people who don't have a criminal record (not criminals) can get real jobs. That's all that's left to choose from.

I wouldn't have thought surviving was that difficult given the wealthy family he was adopted into.