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FXX to air CHOZEN - animated series about a gay white rapper

"Chozen" is about a gay white rapper who gets out of prison and embarks on a quest for redemption and success with a new message and new skills. It will begin airing in January 2014.

by Anonymousreply 19206/24/2014

I'll be checking this out but it'll be on FX on Mondays along with Archer. FXX will be offering Legit and repackaged episodes of Da Ali G Show instead.

by Anonymousreply 111/10/2013

It's an "R-Rated" cartoon. Archer is great too.

by Anonymousreply 211/10/2013

Anybody watch tonight? I had trouble with the lead character when I realized it was being voiced by Bobby Moynihan from SNL. To me, it almost sounds like the voice is different from the one in the promos they were playing over the past few months. Bobby's voice is too light weight for the character.

Not a fan of Moynihan, so I don't think I'll watch it much.

by Anonymousreply 301/14/2014

He's not that hot.

by Anonymousreply 401/14/2014

A weird show but strangely hot. He drops all these gay references and things into his conversations and raps, but no one has yet commented on it.

I will keep watching and see where this goes.

by Anonymousreply 501/14/2014

Is he fit fat, or just fat?

by Anonymousreply 601/14/2014

Fit fat, I think. He got toned up a bit in prison.

Strange language for basic cable -- I had the closed captions on and they used the word cunt in one of his raps. Plus a few others but not fuck.

by Anonymousreply 701/14/2014

I want CHOZEN to be my husbear.

by Anonymousreply 801/14/2014

I thought the character was supposed to be Hispanic.

by Anonymousreply 901/14/2014

I loved this show.

by Anonymousreply 1001/14/2014

REDEMPTION!

by Anonymousreply 1101/14/2014

The marketing of this show confuses me. Who is the intended audience?

by Anonymousreply 1201/14/2014

Chozen is a white American but there are plenty of other races and nationalities included.

by Anonymousreply 1301/14/2014

TERRIBLE! Worst show I've seen in a long time. I can't believe you are supporting it. The main character is exactly what heterosexuals fantasize/think/believe gay men are like in that their sexuality is out there, totally unfiltered and always about sex. It's supposed to be gross out humor.

by Anonymousreply 1401/15/2014

I knew from the promos that we were just being used for comedic exploitation. Can't believe gay people support this garbage.

by Anonymousreply 1501/15/2014

Is the creator gay? Why would a straight guy make his main character gay? That seems weird.

by Anonymousreply 1601/15/2014

Tom Brady is an executive producer and does one of the voices.

by Anonymousreply 1701/15/2014

I missed it,was it as terrible as it looked like it could be?

by Anonymousreply 1801/15/2014

What were the reviews like?

by Anonymousreply 1901/15/2014

Are there any actual gay people involved in this show?

by Anonymousreply 2201/15/2014

I am glad that CHOZEN is bearish, and not some skinny twink.

by Anonymousreply 2301/15/2014

R21, my take was that even HE doesn't really know he's gay... he's never really thought about it much.

He just is.

by Anonymousreply 2401/15/2014

r24, I just don't think he takes on a separate gay identity. He doesn't identify as gay or with gay culture, while being overtly interested and involved with dudes. That is not rare nor unusual in the real world, especially in the urban world, amongst the "bruhs," and among people of color.

by Anonymousreply 2501/15/2014

I think it's more than that. I don't think he thinks he's unusual or different. He doesn't really grasp that he's gay. He just goes about his business, unfiltered. And most other people just assume he's straight so his comments mostly just puzzle them, when they notice at all.

by Anonymousreply 2601/15/2014

[quote] I think it's more than that. I don't think he thinks he's unusual or different. He doesn't really grasp that he's gay.

I sort of agree with you, R26, but then there's the part about prison, which kind of implies it was just a prison thing.

The explanation of his jail time was strange because he said at first he was the "bitch," but then later when he found out how it worked, then he made other guys his bitch.

And when he was at the Student Union, he told the nerdy guy, "you're mine now."

So the whole gay thing is muddled because I'm not sure if he's just transferring his prison life to the outside world because it's what he's used to, or if he really is gay.

I guess we'll find out more as we watch more episodes, but I don't know if we can really call him gay yet.

However, his disinterest in girls pretty much implies that he's gay.

by Anonymousreply 2701/15/2014

r28, but a huge percentage of same-sex oriented guys never embrace or adopt "gay" identity at all. Never.

by Anonymousreply 2901/15/2014

I think they chose to make him gay because:

A. It's a novelty gimmick, and

B. it avoids a lot of teeth gnashing about sexism and racism.

by Anonymousreply 3001/15/2014

Not a single solid laugh in 30 minutes.

The rap scene was LAME and the fake cheering even worse.

Bullshit.

by Anonymousreply 3101/15/2014

[quote] Not a single solid laugh in 30 minutes.

It's like Archer. You either love it or hate it. I actually think it's a novelty.

by Anonymousreply 3201/15/2014

r32, it's nothing like Archer.

by Anonymousreply 3301/15/2014

He's like a gay sex machine but the other characters, including his sister, seem oblivious to it.

I think he gets a lover in an upcoming episode. A jock, not the nerdy computer guy.

by Anonymousreply 3401/16/2014

He already said to that porn website guy that pussy wasn't really his shit.

by Anonymousreply 3501/16/2014

To me Chozen in obviously gay, and he knows it himself, too. I'm not quite sure why people think his gayness is somehow kept in the dark in the series. Yes it wasn't said out loud, but that doesn't mean that Chozen himself is in some sort of denial. If you've ever watched Archer you know that there's nothing subtle about the way the treat gay stuff.

But who knows, it was only the first episode. Maybe him being gay is one of the gags in the show. We'll see.

by Anonymousreply 3701/16/2014

Why did he drop his pants? Are there any pics of him without the black bar across his junk?

by Anonymousreply 3901/16/2014

It might be a different Tom Brady.

by Anonymousreply 4201/16/2014

No, it's the same Tom Brady. He did an interview about it.

by Anonymousreply 4301/17/2014

[quote] He doesn't really grasp that he's gay. He just goes about his business, unfiltered. And most other people just assume he's straight so his comments mostly just puzzle them, when they notice at all.

This has been done before, the Tobias character Arrested Development. I don't think it's supposed to depict a real person, after all it's a cartoon. I don't think real people are allowed to get away with acting very gay without anyone commenting on it and labeling them as such. Being an unlabeled gay person is just a fantasy, unless you're on the down-low.

by Anonymousreply 4401/17/2014

"I like it that he and others don't label his sexuality, he just lives out who he is."

Whatever, Marion.

How about a few jokes while you're changing the world?

It is a cartoon, right?

by Anonymousreply 4701/17/2014

Lackluster ratings

by Anonymousreply 4801/20/2014

Can't stand anything to do with hip-crap, so I tuned in for 5 minutes & then shut it off. I won't be watching again.

by Anonymousreply 4901/20/2014

R53 is completely missing the point of what's being said #DumbAss

by Anonymousreply 5501/21/2014

R57, and what would lead you to think otherwise? Still seems perfectly true to me.

I don't think he thinks in the same terms you do.

It doesn't even occur to him that he's "different". He seems particularly oblivious.

That's the point. It just is.

by Anonymousreply 5901/21/2014

R60, you're STILL not getting what I'm saying. I'm trying to figure out if you're willfully not getting it, or are just dense.

by Anonymousreply 6301/21/2014

No, just someone apparently more intelligent than you.

by Anonymousreply 6501/21/2014

[quote]But I will say, once again, that the Chozen character is gay.

Nobody is denying this, dipshit.

[quote]He knows it, everyone else knows it. It seems ridiculous to me that you can't grasp such a simple fact.

It seems ridiculous that after explaining it several times, you still don't understand what I'm saying. How you can be so clueless is beyond me. I don't know how to explain it any more clearly.

You're missing the whole fucking point.

So far there is ZERO evidence that he labels himself or thinks of rainbow flags and gay bars and such. He just does it, clueless that there's anything 'different' about it. Just as the straight people just shrug off some of the things he says with respect to same-sex stuff, he equally shrugs off what other guys say about opposite sex stuff.

He gives confused looks (or bored look) just as other guys give HIM confused looks (or bored looks).

He doesn't think in terms of those labels. He doesnt' think he's unusual. He doesn't "get" that it's not what most guys do.

And R68? How so? I'd love to hear you try to justify that.

by Anonymousreply 6901/21/2014

First: Nobody likes a trolldar troll stalker

Second: Perhaps your reading comprehension is different than mine, but that post doesn't describe someone who is a "closet case".

Judgy much?

by Anonymousreply 7101/21/2014

Yeah, not really. I think you're projecting.

by Anonymousreply 7301/21/2014

ratings?

by Anonymousreply 7901/22/2014

[quote]it would be a funny running joke if his sexuality is never brought up [bold]buy[/bold] his friends and family even as he constantly talks about and fucks guys in front of them

Oh [italic]dear[/italic]....

by Anonymousreply 8201/22/2014

Still can't get into it, and that seems to be the general consensus. It's godawful.

by Anonymousreply 8801/23/2014

R87, I think it's mostly one closeted creep doing most of the squawking.

by Anonymousreply 8901/25/2014

[quote]All you people debating whether Chozen is gay or not are dumb as fuck.

The fact that you seem to think anyone is debating whether he's homosexual or not makes YOU dumb as fuck. Nobody is arguing that. Of course he's homosexual. That's not the point being made.

It's like this thread is over-run with complete idiots who can't even comprehend the simplest of statements.

by Anonymousreply 9001/25/2014

r69, r73 etc. please read this interview with the creator. it answers all your questions.

by Anonymousreply 9101/25/2014

R90 is fucking crazy.

Dude, come out of the closet already.

by Anonymousreply 9201/25/2014

Focus on the show, dude

by Anonymousreply 9301/25/2014

Get Glue is now known as tvtag

by Anonymousreply 9401/25/2014

R92, I'm neither closeted nor crazy. I'm just not as stupid as apparently some of you morons are. Jesus.

Reading that article makes my point for me in several places:

[quote]He's a gay man, but if you met him on the street, that would be the least interesting thing about him. He's very much, "I am what I am."

[quote]Chozen is completely comfortable about his sexuality; he doesn’t have any shame about liking “dudes with smooth skin,” but he’s a lone wolf. He doesn't have any kind of gay community.

[quote]So when he gets out, he doesn't really feel the need to search out any other culture. He's very confident, very sure of himself.

[quote]In the third episode [when he goes to a college LGBT group], those meetings might not be for him, but he gets it. He’s just not invested in it that way.

He's not capital-G "Gay", rainbow-flag-waving, protesting for rights, blah blah blah. To him, he just is. It is what it is, and he neither thinks about nor obsesses about it. It doesn't occur to him that he should.

And that's kind of refreshing... in that you don't often see that on TV anywhere. You see lots of over-the-the-top stereotypes, and you see a lot of people who are "GAY" first and foremost, and other things secondarily.

I really can't understand why you can't grasp something so painfully obvious... or why you think acknowledging this painfully obvious thing makes me somehow closeted (rolling my eyes), let alone insane.

Probably the closest thing you see to this is Teen Wolf, and even there, there's a lot of gay/straight talk, even if it's more matter of fact. Here, he's just behaving like any straight rapper would, only he's not straight. Straight people don't obsess over their straightness... they don't even think about it. It just IS.

And that's the point.

by Anonymousreply 9501/25/2014

He is openly, unapologetically into dudes. But he is ostensibly not identified with gay culture or gay identity. He just is who he is independent of a group identity surrounding his sexual orientation. He is just a dude into dudes. There a millions of males like him.

by Anonymousreply 9601/25/2014

R95 wrote this:

[quote]He doesn't really grasp that he's gay.

Which is 100 percent incorrect.

by Anonymousreply 9701/25/2014

No, R97, your comprehension of what I said is incorrect. I stand by that statement. It was made clear in the premiere episode that he doesn't really think of himself as 'gay', imho. He just does what he does, with no apologies or even cares or thoughts. He doesn't "identify" as a member of that sub-culture... and as the interview explains, it's mostly because he's never been a member of that subculture to identify with it. He instead identifies as a prison inmate & rapper. The fact that he has sex with dudes instead of chicks is purely incidental. He doesn't THINK about it enough to even consciously realize it's unusual. He's not that self-aware.

by Anonymousreply 9801/25/2014

[quote]It was made clear in the premiere episode that he doesn't really think of himself as 'gay', imho

Yes, he does think of himself as gay, you moron. Do you think he doesn't know that he's sucking cocks? Do you think he's confused? It's just the opposite, he's unabashedly gay.

by Anonymousreply 9901/25/2014

[quote]Yes, he does think of himself as gay, you moron. Do you think he doesn't know that he's sucking cocks?

You continue to misunderstand. I'm not sure why.

Yes, he knows he sucks dick and fucks ass and has sex with guys.

But no, he doesn't think of himself as "gay". He doesn't really think in those terms. Why is this so hard for you to grasp?

No, I don't think he's confused. Jesus, seriously, are you really this thick in real life? You have NO capacity for understanding any nuance? Seriously? I'm not sure if I should type more slowly when talking to you...

by Anonymousreply 10001/25/2014

So he does gay stuff but doesn't know he's gay or think of himself as gay. Gotcha, brain trust.

by Anonymousreply 10101/25/2014

R100, you seem to have very rigid meaning for 'gay'. Why can't people like Chozen be gay even if they don't identify belonging in the "gay culture"? Yes there are loads of men who don't like to live in the gay culture but that doesn't mean they aren't gay. And really, what is gay culture? There are gay people in all the walks of life, living a life of their own, even if that life is not straight from Looking. Chozen lives his own gay life, just like I do, surrounded only by straight people at the moment.

I think that we all here understand pretty well what we all mean.

by Anonymousreply 10201/25/2014

R101, you realize the term "Gay" has more connotations than "has sex with dudes", right?

And R102, People like Choszen can be gay. I'm not talking about your definition of the word or even mine. HE doesn't seem to think of himself in those terms. He just is, he doesn't think it's unusual, he's just himself, and doesn't even get that others might find it weird or wrong or different. He seems to be clueless to the whole of the politics surrounding it.. he's pure ID in that regard. He wants it and goes for it. And I think that's just really cool.

Gozen doesn't live a "gay life", he lives a "thug life", the life of a rapper and ex-con. Being "gay" is not his focus. He isn't going out and buying rainbow stickers, or marching in parades, or attending LGBT meetings. He's cool with all that, but it isn't him, and he doesn't seem to think in those terms at all... again, he doesn't obsess over his sexuality, he just lives it. LIke straight people do. He doesn't THINK about it I the way you obviously do.

Again, this isn't rocket science, and I have no idea why you're having such a difficult time understanding this.

You DO realize there are a lot of homosexual men who reject the label "Gay", right? That "gay" is not always synonymous with having sex with members of the same sex? I'm not one of those by any means, but I can recognize that others have different perceptions on both the word and the "community", etc.

Like a lot of black rappers who have sex with en "on the down low" don't identify as gay, reject the label, and perceive the word as being something defined solely by WHITE out homosexuals who are more feminen than masculine. That's THEIR perception (not saying I agree with it).

The point is, Chozen doesn't seem to think of himself as 'gay' in the same way that a homosexual black rapper wouldn't... even if he was totally cool with having sex with other guys and everyone knowing about it.

Are you getting it yet? Are are you guys going to still inssit I'm somehow not only insisting he's not gay, but that I'm also somehow closeted? (rolling my eyes)

Whatever. Your minds are obviously extremely closed, rigid, and unwilling to see anything from anyone else's perspective, especially if that perspective is different than yours.

by Anonymousreply 10301/25/2014

All this analysis over two 22 minute episodes.

We may learn more as the season progresses.

by Anonymousreply 10401/25/2014

R103, I think all you are talking about is your definition of what you think 'gay' is. It's billion different things and Chozen just happens to be one of those, just like each of us gay men are gay in our way in our own lives. You seem to say that being gay is the defining factor in the lives of people talking here, and that Chozen somehow transcends that into being something else.

I don't think the series has given us yet that much info about his life but from what I've seen Chozen loves and beds men. You don't in this case need anything else to make him gay. He doesn't need to be part of some 'gay culture' of gay bars and such. He is part of the gay culture just being what he is and that is a man who loves and has sex with other men.

by Anonymousreply 10501/25/2014

[quote]I think all you are talking about is your definition of what you think 'gay' is

For the thousandth time, no.

I'm talking about HIS self-perception. The way HE thinks about it (or doesn't think about it).

I know he's a gay man. I don't know how many times I can repeat that before you'll actually hear it.

I'm talking about how he defines himself, not how YOU define him, or *I* define him.

Jesus.

by Anonymousreply 10601/25/2014

[quote]but from what I've seen Chozen loves and beds men.

No shit Sherlock. Why do you think ANYONE is saying otherwise?

[quote]He is part of the gay culture just being what he is and that is a man who loves and has sex with other men.

I assure you that is utterly false. There are many men who have sex with men who aren't part of "gay culture" at all.

by Anonymousreply 10701/25/2014

R106, well he knows that he likes dudes and has sex with them all the time. What on earth more should he do to make him define himself as gay? Being gay just tells that a guy loves men and has sex with them. You seem to think that being gay changes man into some other species that can't do 'straight' stuff.

by Anonymousreply 10801/25/2014

[quote]There are many men who have sex with men who aren't part of "gay culture" at all.

Ok, now we've reached something.

Every gay man is part of the gay culture. There is not one kind of gay culture because there are as many kinds of gay culture as there are bi and gay men. Chozen's is just one kind.

by Anonymousreply 10901/25/2014

[quote]well he knows that he likes dudes and has sex with them all the time.

Why do you feel compelled to repeat the obvious. We all know this.

[quote]What on earth more should he do to make him define himself as gay?

Goddamn, you're thick. I don't know how to be any more clear. It has nothing to do with what he DOES, but how *HE* thinks of himself. He just does what he does. He doesn't label it. He doesn't worry about it. He doesn't perceive himself to be unusual.

[quote]Being gay just tells that a guy loves men and has sex with them.

That's YOUR perception and definition, and that's fine. It's mine too. But we're not talking about you, or me. We're talking about HIM.

[quote]You seem to think that being gay changes man into some other species that can't do 'straight' stuff.

I think no such thing, and I've never said or implied anything to make you think that.

Seriously, is your IQ over room temperature? I feel like I'm talking to a wall here.

Pull your head out of your ass please.

by Anonymousreply 11001/25/2014

[quote]Every gay man is part of the gay culture.

Not true.

Gay culture encompasses gay bars, pride parades, fighting for gay rights, drag, and a host of other things.

Many men who have sex with men don't identify or participate in that at all... and not only reject that "gay culture", but are rejected BY it.

You're being very, very myopic here.

[quote]There is not one kind of gay culture because there are as many kinds of gay culture as there are bi and gay men.

And then you immediately contradict yourself. "Gay Culture" is a thing, and then you claim that everyone has their own... which is meaningless.

Sorry, you don't get to make up and then mash up, and then unmake definitions like that.

by Anonymousreply 11101/25/2014

So ... Hunter. Is he going to come back?

by Anonymousreply 11201/25/2014

Hunter's going to be a recurring guy:

Slate interviews the show's creator, Grant Dekernion:

Hunter"Slate: Do you think Chozen’s relationship with Hunter [the hot frat jock lacrosse-player, voiced by Ike Barinholtz the doofus of The Mindy Project] is a healthy one?

"Dekernion: Oh, I don't know if I'd say that. I think his relationship with Hunter begins in the way Chozen begins many relationships, but we tried to build in some subtlety. As we see them throughout the season, Chozen tries to find a way to have a relationship. It may not begin where it's a very loving, equitable situation, but I think Hunter will make it known that he'd like something more real, and Chozen will try to see if he's willing and/or able to do that. And you'll also see changes in Hunter. So, it's not healthy, but I think it's a dynamic that exists."

by Anonymousreply 11301/25/2014

Here's the Slate interview.

by Anonymousreply 11401/25/2014

[quote]You DO realize there are a lot of homosexual men who reject the label "Gay", right?

[quote]I'm not one of those by any means,

Oh, of course not.

by Anonymousreply 11501/26/2014

He is just a dude into dudes. He is not into the subculture identity or separate lifestyle.

by Anonymousreply 11601/27/2014

R115 apparently knows completely anonymous individuals he's never met better than the individual person himself (rolling eyes)

You're an idiot and an asshole. Seriously.

by Anonymousreply 11701/27/2014

On last night's episode, Chozen had sex with a trans man so who the hell knows with this show.

by Anonymousreply 11801/28/2014

I watched last night's episode too. It's 90% hip hop, 10% gay, at most.

Wont' be watching again.

by Anonymousreply 11901/28/2014

Biggest problem with this series is that it's just not funny

by Anonymousreply 12001/28/2014

It's plenty funny, as long you're not the kind of idiot that requires a BAZINGA! cue to laugh.

by Anonymousreply 12101/28/2014

[quote]Gay culture encompasses gay bars, pride parades, fighting for gay rights, drag, and a host of other things.

Pure ignorance.

by Anonymousreply 12201/28/2014

R122 Tell us what does gay culture encompass if not those things listed?

by Anonymousreply 12301/28/2014

Gay culture isn't a bar. Gay culture IS Pride Parade because those are a celebration of courage, freedom, honesty, and life which is essentially fighting for gay rights post-Stone Wall.

Gay culture is also those openly gay men and women who have made their mark the arts, music, medicine and research, business, you name it. Gay culture are openly LGBT people who have made their mark on society in some way.

Gay culture isn't a "host of other things" as you dismissively state, which I'm sure to you, they are negative to you.

But, I'm curious, what are these "host of others things"? Be honest.

by Anonymousreply 12401/28/2014

Ok R124 So with the exception of the gay bar part, everything you called pure ignorance in R122 is actually examples of gay culture? How do you know that the "host of other things" dont include the things you listed?

by Anonymousreply 12501/28/2014

I have feeling the "host of other things" were not on my list, R125. That's why I asked him to be honest. I'm sure "glory holes" was on his list. Of course, now that I said that, I'm sure he'll deny that, but please. I know his agenda.

by Anonymousreply 12601/28/2014

Oh, I see, R126. The "pure ignorance" are things you imagined, not something that actually exists.

Whatever.....

by Anonymousreply 12701/28/2014

No, his list was ignorant, R127. His list meant to mock and demean. You know that. Stop pretending like you don't.

by Anonymousreply 12801/28/2014

R128 Fighting for gay rights is mocking and demeaning? Gay pride parades (which you included in your list) is mocking and demeaning?

by Anonymousreply 12901/28/2014

I think a "host of other things" could include gay community centers, gay-straight student alliances, gay channels on YouTube, gay restaurants, gay coffee houses, gay movies and theater, gay bookstores, gay newspapers and magazines, gay TV programs, gay sports leagues, gay churches, gay cruises, gay vacation spots, circles of friends that include mostly other gays, gay celebrations in addition to pride (Halloween parades, street fairs.)

You can be gay (attracted to the same sex) yet never participate in the myriad of gay cultural experiences. Chozen seems to fall into this category.

by Anonymousreply 13001/28/2014

R130: Which is exactly why the gay community shouldn't watch this crappy show.

It's about hip hop culture (I use that term extremely loosely), not about gay culture.

by Anonymousreply 13101/28/2014

[quote]It's about hip hop culture (I use that term extremely loosely), not about gay culture.

It's about neither. It's about a gay rapper.

by Anonymousreply 13201/28/2014

R132: Don't be deliberately obtuse. It's not attractive.

by Anonymousreply 13301/28/2014

R134: Grown men, posting trivial nastiness on an anonymous web forum. Pathetic.

by Anonymousreply 13501/28/2014

r134

Chozen is not for kids

by Anonymousreply 13601/29/2014

Jesus, R103. Do you really think the straight men creators of Chozen even gave two seconds thought to the gay politics of Chozen or how he transcends gay identity? They would laugh at you for writing a thesis analyzing the identity politics of a character they just made up because they thought it was funny.

by Anonymousreply 13701/29/2014

R111, bitches like you never know when to quit!

by Anonymousreply 13801/29/2014

Wtf is wrong with people here with this stupid arguing? Anyway just watched the third episode and I have decided this show is amusing.

The beginning scene with his nemesis had me laughing my ass off and the show is definitely completely unique and like that.

by Anonymousreply 13901/29/2014

Andy Cohen had Bobby Moynihan on WWHL Tuesday night, and didn't ask him ANYTHING about Chozen or his character. What a missed opportunity.

by Anonymousreply 14001/29/2014

What was Moynihan doing on the show if not to promote his own new project?

by Anonymousreply 14101/29/2014

Andy didn't ask Moynihan any Chozen questions but he did mention the show several times, and a caller asked a him a question.

by Anonymousreply 14201/29/2014

This has to be the dumbest argument I've heard about a gay character. Obviously the character is gay, he's just not some typical urban white guy who immerses himself in the bar scene or goes to the community center or whatever. Chozen is just living his life, screwing men, trying to get back at his nemesis, etc.

The funniest part of the show isn't even the gay stuff, it's his whole fight with the dude who stole his career. I also like the other two friends.

All their characters are fully formed even with the stereotypes (hispanic guy with lots of siblings, black guy being supported by a girlfriend, hippie pervert who smokes weed, responsible sister who dates idiots), etc. The Hunter sequence was also very funny and so was the thing with the transgendered woman AND transgendered man. I've actually heard of transgendered 'gay men' who seek gay men even when they haven't had the full surgery.

by Anonymousreply 14301/30/2014

R143, of course it's a stupid argument. It's just one idiot who keeps arguing the same thing over and over. To him, Chozen isn't gay.

by Anonymousreply 14401/30/2014

I don't have all the gay genes (fashion sense and hairstyling are missing) but I do have the importants one -- cocksucking and old movie trivia.

by Anonymousreply 14501/30/2014

[quote I don't have all the gay genes (fashion sense and hairstyling are missing) but I do have the importants one -- cocksucking and old movie trivia.

LOL. The question is -- do you consider yourself to be gay, or do you not think about it at all?

BTW, What a bizarre set of posts . . .

by Anonymousreply 14601/30/2014

No surprise there are no actual gay guys involved in the show.

by Anonymousreply 14701/31/2014

Nick Swardson isn't queer? Surprise surprise surprise.

by Anonymousreply 14801/31/2014

Third episode was the best thus far.

by Anonymousreply 14901/31/2014

r131, it reflects the reality of many same-sex attracted men in that there are many bi/gay men who don't identify with or even pay attention to gay culture. CHOZEN is not rare.

by Anonymousreply 15001/31/2014

So, if Chozen doesn't think of himself as "gay", what was he doing in a Lesbian Gay Bacon Tomato center? (I mean, other than to score manass -- he did return with a message about self-acceptance.) Is he gay enough now?

by Anonymousreply 15101/31/2014

He thought it was a restaurant that served BLTs. He didn't know it was about gays or he wouldn't have gone. He doesn't identify as gay. He thinks of himself as straight and straight men love BLTs.

by Anonymousreply 15202/01/2014

[quote]Grown men watching cartoons. Pathetic.

Not sure who is worse, the "grown men don't" troll or the pathetic closet case who just won't let go in this thread.

by Anonymousreply 15302/01/2014

The "grown men watching cartoons" troll is just as big a pretentious douche as the "I don't own a TV" trolls.

by Anonymousreply 15402/02/2014

I don't watch television -- I have a fireplace.

by Anonymousreply 15502/03/2014

Agreed R154

by Anonymousreply 15602/04/2014

Is anyone still watching? I'm still enjoying the show though I'm somewhat bored by the storylines that aren't centered around Chozen. I don't really care about the sister or the friends.

by Anonymousreply 15702/04/2014

I watch this every week and IMO the show is getting better every week. I though last night's episode was hilarious. They also get through a lot of things I would think the censors would stop such as the 'DP' comment (Chozen doesn't roll that way, besides, she's his sister so it's a gray area). My mother was watching it with me and she looked at me funny for laughing at the DP joke.

I didn't care for Chozen being all sensitive and shit but overall, hilarious episode and I can't wait to see the one where his old cell mate/lover gets out of jail.

by Anonymousreply 15802/04/2014

More Hunter, please.

by Anonymousreply 15902/04/2014

Unfunny show already cancelled like "Looking". Next.

by Anonymousreply 16002/04/2014

R160, neither show has been canceled. Stop making shit up.

by Anonymousreply 16102/05/2014

Loving the show.

by Anonymousreply 16202/09/2014

I always thought Nick Swardson was gay but apparently he's not.

by Anonymousreply 16302/10/2014

How come there are no new episodes of Archer, but there are new episodes of Chozen? They don't care about the Olympics hitting their ratings?

by Anonymousreply 16402/10/2014

My does not show any episodes for the next two weeks...

by Anonymousreply 16502/10/2014

Next episodes 2/24 and 3/3.

by Anonymousreply 16602/10/2014

f

by Anonymousreply 16802/11/2014

Yep

by Anonymousreply 17002/17/2014

Nice try, r169, but Michael actually said the words I'm Gay, so there goes that theory...

by Anonymousreply 17102/18/2014

Chozen returns with a new episode tonight, 2/24

by Anonymousreply 17202/24/2014

Am I the only one still watching?

by Anonymousreply 17303/04/2014

The last episode was especially gay.

by Anonymousreply 17403/06/2014

Has it been canceled?

by Anonymousreply 17503/12/2014

Hope not, I think Chozen's hilarious. I'd like to see more of his boy toy too.

by Anonymousreply 17603/12/2014

The episode with his mom and dad was really good.

by Anonymousreply 17703/13/2014

This episode points out that CHOZEN was gay all his life, not just after he went to jail.

by Anonymousreply 17803/13/2014

Just had a weird thought, but too lazy to check the rest of the thread to see if it's been brought up before.

You may have heard about some crazy grandmother talking about how 'Frozen' was going to turn kids gay.

Is it possible she got 'Chozen' confused with 'Frozen'?

by Anonymousreply 17903/13/2014

That's hilarious... but no :-)

by Anonymousreply 18003/13/2014

Fox, FX, FXX--so avant gay. Cosmos, too. So avant atheist. Fox, always in the vanguard of entertainment. NBC, MSNBC, CBS, CNN etc. Always so retrograde, pretending to be soooo liberal. Thank you Fox and all your channels==edgiest entertainment in last 20 years.

by Anonymousreply 18103/13/2014

I still watch this show & I don't know why. It's like a train derailment mixed with a fiery explosion I can't look away.

But J.K. Simmons played Chozen's dad this week. He's hot & so is his voice.

by Anonymousreply 18203/13/2014

I still really like this show.

by Anonymousreply 18303/18/2014

Last night's episode really hit the looks-ism, cliquishness, etc., of the gay community. Hard.

by Anonymousreply 18403/18/2014

This show is hilarious even with a deluded and unlikable protagonist. Glad Hunter is getting appreciation from others. Love how Chozen and friends are all whipped.

by Anonymousreply 18503/18/2014

CHOZEN needs a new boy friend.

by Anonymousreply 18603/18/2014

is it going to be renewed?

by Anonymousreply 18704/14/2014

FX announced today that Chozen has been cancelled. That's a bummer.

by Anonymousreply 18805/15/2014

cancelled

by Anonymousreply 18905/15/2014

Too bad, although I'm not too surprised.

by Anonymousreply 19005/15/2014

The show was god-awful.

by Anonymousreply 19105/15/2014

cancelled

by Anonymousreply 19206/24/2014
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