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When will the cyber bullying stop!

This poor girl.

Sheriff says Fla. 12-year-old committed suicide after being bullied online by over a dozen girls

LAKELAND, FLA. – A 12-year-old Florida girl committed suicide after she was bullied online by more than a dozen girls and a sheriff said Thursday that he is investigating whether he can file charges under Florida's new law that covers cyber-bullying.

Polk County Sheriff Grady Judd said that Rebecca Ann Sedwick jumped to her death on Monday at an old cement business in Lakeland, a city between Tampa and Orlando. Investigators say the girl was despondent after others had posted hate messages about her online.

Sedwick was "absolutely terrorized on social media," Judd said.

The Lakeland Ledger reports that detectives found multiple social media applications where Sedwick was constantly bullied with messages, including "Go kill yourself," and "Why are you still alive?"

He said parents of all 15 girls have cooperated with detectives and several cellphones and laptops have been confiscated. Judd said charges could be filed -- including cyber stalking.

"If we can get any evidence of a criminal offense, the person or persons involved will be punished," he said.

Before her death, Sedwick had searched questions online related to suicide, including "How many over-the-counter drugs do you take to die?" and "How many Advil do you have to take to die?"

Detectives also found photos of Sedwick with razor blades lying on her arms and with her head resting on a railroad track, Judd said.

Judd said a 12-year-old boy in North Carolina, who Sedwick met through social media, knew of her plan. Sedwick messaged him only hours before her death saying she was dead and "I'm jumping, I can't take it anymore."

Sedwick also changed her name on a free messaging application to "That Dead Girl."

Judd said detectives are trying to investigate the social media applications that Sedwick used, including Kik and Ask.fm, but many of the websites are based in other countries.

If detectives can find evidence, according to Florida law, the girls could be charged with felony cyber stalking because Sedwick was under 16 years old.

"If you bully somebody online and it's reported to us and we can build a credible case, we will charge you," Judd said.

by Anonymousreply 11010/16/2014

Perfect topic to discuss here

by Anonymousreply 110/13/2013

If I were the parents of the deceased girl I would go after all 12 families of the bullying bitches with civil lawsuits that would DESTROY them financially and emotionally. I would have them work their asses to the bone for the rest of their fucking lives to pay for the damage wreaked by their CUNT daughters.

I would be MERCILESS!

by Anonymousreply 210/13/2013

You fucking linked to Faux, OP.

You couldn't find the story on a non-shitty network?

by Anonymousreply 310/13/2013

Florida...as always

by Anonymousreply 410/13/2013

Settle, r3.

by Anonymousreply 510/13/2013

Why don't parents take these bullied kids out of schools and homeschool them? Parents today know what happens when kids get bullied.

BTW, in other bullying news, when are HR Depts going to go after office bullies?

by Anonymousreply 610/13/2013

I know it's not easy, but parents REALLY have to be vigilant and on top of what their middle and high schoolers are doing online. Social media is not the place for these kids. I remember being in school and sometimes it can feel like it's the end of the world if "the cool kids" hate you. It's hard to think of the future because you have been led to believe that your social status in middle and high school determines the rest of your life.

by Anonymousreply 710/13/2013

Girls are hideous creatures.

by Anonymousreply 810/13/2013

is girl bulling new? mewish?

When I was a kid in the late 70's/ early 80s I used to envy girls for not having to go through what I did.

by Anonymousreply 910/13/2013

make that newish^^

(hee hee mewish!)

by Anonymousreply 1010/13/2013

I sympathize for the poor kid, but I don't totally understand cyber-bullying. I mean real-life bullying (in schools) is something that most kids can't physically avoid, but bullying online I would think that anyone could just shut down the computer, close their accounts and be anonymous?

by Anonymousreply 1110/13/2013

I agree with you, R11. But most kids live their lives on the internet these days. At least when you are bullied in school you know it is over when school is out. Online bullying never stops. But you can shut down your accounts and be done with it, like you said. Unless of course, kids are posting your name all over the internet and making fun of you. I wish parents would just follow what their kids do online.

by Anonymousreply 1210/13/2013

Why don't parents just pull their kids out of school and homeschool them? That's your first thought?

Look, moron, most parents work and homeschooling is an appalling thing to do to a child. Healthy children have no desire to be with parents 24/7/365 and healthy parents don't want that either. Homeschooling is bad for children's intellectual, psychological and social development. Suggesting a school transfer or boarding school would have been a lot more sensible.

We know that bullying is a problem and a serious matter, especially for gay youth. A lot of us have been there. Still, the title of this thread and the way you semi-hysterical fraus and lesbifraus are clacking and clucking about it inspires nothing but loathing.

Work, girls, you need to find a J.O.B.

by Anonymousreply 1310/13/2013

No, R9, I remember gis at school bring bullied by other girls when I was a kid in the 80s.

R11, the only victim of cyber-bullying I know in real life (a friend's daughter) was being bullied by people she knew at school. The bullying would never have stopped unless she removed herself from all online interaction, including the places where she had friends. Can you imagine asking a 14 year old to stop having an online life? These days they'd be socially stunted by 16. "Hey! Miss out on everything your peers experience. You'll be a happier person." I don't think so.

by Anonymousreply 1410/14/2013

Fox News?

The irony!

by Anonymousreply 1510/14/2013

Please don't let them be whi...

by Anonymousreply 1610/14/2013

No cell phones until high school.

No computers in your room.

No Facebook until age 18.

by Anonymousreply 1710/14/2013

Actually, R11, cyber-bullying can be worse because the taunting can be constant and it can spread in such a way that it may be inescapable. I think there have been cases in which kids transferred schools, but friends of the bullies at the previous school already knew about the victim so the problems continued.

by Anonymousreply 1810/14/2013

[quote] most parents work and homeschooling is an appalling thing to do to a child.

There are homeschool groups that some parents run where children of similar ages are taught together. When one of my brothers was going through chem/radiation and we were having trouble finding a normal school that would have accommodated him--even the 25k per year schools were unworkable--we eventually joined a homeschool group that he went to everyday.

by Anonymousreply 1910/14/2013

When will heterosexuals stop raising their kids to be assholes?

by Anonymousreply 2010/14/2013

This happened to my sister's 12 year old. Well not the suicide. Fortunately my sister is a high riding bitch. She went to the school with her lawyer and told them they had 48 hours to remove the offending girls from the school or they would have a door closing lawsuit on their hand for not providing a safe environment for her daughter.

She also went after the families and tightened things up on her end. Her daughter was not allowed unfettered access to the internet anymore and was enrolled in some other real life activities as opposed to this cyber shit.

by Anonymousreply 2110/14/2013

I don't get the whole bullying thing. I was the fat queer kid in school. Dad was in the military so we moved almost every year. I was always the new kid, and an outsider. Did I get bullied? You bet. Did I go home and hang myself in the closet? Hell no....It made me a stronger person and I have survived a few things that would have crushed others.

We are making a generation of wimpy kids. "Mommy make them quit saying mean things about me"

by Anonymousreply 2210/14/2013

Not everyone reacts the same way, R22. And don't forget that bullying is much more vicious now than it was 20 or even 10 years ago.

by Anonymousreply 2310/14/2013

Bullying is so much easier to do now, with the internet and social media. It's made people feel comfortable with off hand cruelty.

See Datalounge.

by Anonymousreply 2410/14/2013

Bullshit, r23

by Anonymousreply 2510/14/2013

The default setting for humans seems to be: ASSHOLE.

by Anonymousreply 2610/14/2013

Keep you kids offline.

Problem solved!

by Anonymousreply 2710/14/2013

We have that here. Right wing trolls are forever trying to get people here to kill themselves. And others are always threatening suicide.

by Anonymousreply 2810/14/2013

The "Right Wing Trolls" are not the ones telling people to "die in a grease fire"

Those would be the peace loving liberals.

by Anonymousreply 2910/14/2013

It's hardly bullshit, R25.

by Anonymousreply 3010/14/2013

"Die in a grease fire" was originally David E. But he isn't the one telling people to off themselves. That's the GOP contingent.

by Anonymousreply 3110/14/2013

Middle school kids are vicious. It's always been like that.

by Anonymousreply 3210/14/2013

Wait, while the idiots who were "bullying" online are culpable, where is parental responsibility?

Why weren't the parents aware of what was happening?

Why weren't the parents monitoring their child's activities online?

Children require that they be taught coping skills. You can't just go on autopilot as a parent and expect teachers, schools, and everyone else to watch out for your kids. YOU have to be vigilant.

This is not an 'either or' situation where it's one group's fault. It's an AND situation where multiple parties should have been more responsible.

by Anonymousreply 3310/14/2013

Back in 1998 when I was a sophomore in high school, I was bullied at school. Eventually the main girl got my AOL address and would instant message me constantly, send horrible threatening emails, etc. And this was in 1998. I ended up dropping out of school because these girls were really dangerous. I honestly can't even IMAGINE how horrible it would have been if all of these social networks were around back then. I really feel bad for these kids.

by Anonymousreply 3410/14/2013

I don't understand why the parents of the bullied kids are letting them BE on the internet. At 12, you should not have a phone or a facebook or twitter or any unsupervised access to the internet

The bullies should get expelled and charged (and ideally their shitty parents should get charged too), but the parents of the bullied kids need to step the fuck up too and protect their kids. If that means the kid gets picked on at school for not being cool because they don't have iPhones or unfettered access to social media/internet, then so be it. At least that's where the bullying will STOP (when the school day stops) *because* the kid isn't on social media.

by Anonymousreply 3510/14/2013

You gotta figure too that what went on on line also spilled over to school.

by Anonymousreply 3610/14/2013

I think this has always gone on, we're just hearing about it more now. Partially because bullying seems to be a storyline that draws eyeballs, it must be or the media wouldn't focus on it. Also because it skews "young" and young eyeballs are big money to advertisers.

As usual, follow the money...

by Anonymousreply 3710/14/2013

R13, the problem with pulling the kids out of the school is that it treats them like they're the ones in the wrong, instead of punishing the bullies.

by Anonymousreply 3810/14/2013

It's because America is becoming a much nicer place.

by Anonymousreply 3910/14/2013

Depends. When will the cyber stop?

by Anonymousreply 4010/14/2013

R22, the fact that you didn't stay in one place too long means that you were lucky. For a lot of bullied kids, the abuse gets worse and worse as time goes on. So you can cool it with your cavalier, unsympathetic bullshit.

by Anonymousreply 4110/14/2013

Bump

by Anonymousreply 4210/14/2013

That's the thing, R28. Bullies never grow. They just get older and use politics and influence to belittle other people.

by Anonymousreply 4310/14/2013

[quote]I don't understand why the parents of the bullied kids are letting them BE on the internet.

Its a nice thought, but I think the genie is out of the bottle on that one. You can maybe keep them off until 12-13 years old, MAYBE. Its akin to living in the 1950s and keeping your kid from getting exposed to the world by locking them in their room - impractical at best.

by Anonymousreply 4410/14/2013

R44, and so much of schooling is done on the internet now. I have a friend who's a teacher and posts homework assignments and class questions on Twitter.

by Anonymousreply 4510/14/2013

No, it isn't r44. It just requires some balls. There is nothing on the internet that they're missing out on, unless it has to do with schoolwork.

by Anonymousreply 4610/14/2013

For a lot of bullied kids, the internet IS their only social outlet. If they're being bullied in school, they can find online friends who are maybe in the same situation as they are and/or share common interests.

To take that away from them would only make it worse.

They're not asking for kids to track them down on there, just like they aren't asking to be bothered IRL.

The only solution to this is to PUNISH THE BULLIES and not the bullied.

by Anonymousreply 4710/14/2013

R9, mean girls have been around for years and I doubt they'll ever go away. I would like to help some of these kids out and bully these little fuckers back for them. When I was done with them, they wouldn't know what hit them.

by Anonymousreply 4810/14/2013

R34, is this asshole girl on Facebook? I want her name. I will show her bullying.

by Anonymousreply 4910/14/2013

[quote]There are homeschool groups that some parents run where children of similar ages are taught together. When one of my brothers was going through chem/radiation and we were having trouble finding a normal school that would have accommodated him--even the 25k per year schools were unworkable--we eventually joined a homeschool group that he went to everyday.

R19, who is this "we" you are referring to? You, as a child, were tasked with finding a suitable school for your brother?

Pulling a perfectly healthy child out of normal school and homeschooling them is not the same thing as a very ill child needing a school that can/will accommodate his medical needs. A group of unrelated children being taught, presumably by a qualified teacher, is not the same as Susie Homemaker deciding that Jesus told her to protect her children from the evils of other people and education. It's also not the same as taking a bullied kid and isolating them at home, as if they deserved to be run out of school in the first place.

I stand by my assessment of the intellectual, psychological and emotional damage that homeschooling does to children. You fraus have got to stop posting the first thing that comes into your heads and mistaking individual anecdotes for factual data. t

by Anonymousreply 5010/14/2013

[quote]He said parents of all 15 girls have cooperated with detectives and several cellphones and laptops have been confiscated

At least that's good news.

by Anonymousreply 5110/14/2013

Parents do allow kids too much online access at too early an age. My niece is 11 years old, and has had her own computer with Internet for three years now. She also got a smartphone last year. Her parents (brother-in-law & wife) are not bad people, they just allow waaay too much freedom. This recently came to a head. The girl's mom recently sent a message out through her daughter's Facebook page saying that her Internet privileges were being suspended because......surprise, she and some of her friends were bullying a girl online. It really is so easy for kids to be mean now.

by Anonymousreply 5210/14/2013

Many of the parents (not all, but many) of the bullies are either assholes themselves or removed from their kids life due to working a lot or divorce and being out with their significant other. At least that is what I saw growing up in the 80s. It would make sense that these parents would not be aware of their child's online activity since they were not aware of their real life activity as well.

by Anonymousreply 5310/14/2013

I call it subcontracting.

by Anonymousreply 5410/14/2013

[quote] You, as a child, were tasked with finding a suitable school for your brother?

In non-flyover country, you will meet well-heeled families where a man has had multiple marriages which have produced children who are a generation apart.

The rest of your assumptions are likewise provincial and irrelevant.

by Anonymousreply 5510/14/2013

Would Lifetime need to pay a license fee if they called the movie of this girl's life "How many Advil do you have to take to die?"

by Anonymousreply 5610/14/2013

Thank you, R22.

by Anonymousreply 5710/14/2013

R11, I was bullied badly growing up and I'd still prefer the physical/verbal torment I endured to this stuff.

I'm glad I went to school when this shit wasn't around. I wouldn't want to be a kid with this kind of technology being available. Anyone can say anything about you and have it spread like wildfire. You can't escape it and it never goes away; it's always there. It doesn't matter if you're the popular kid in school or low man on the totem pole, there's always going to be someone who has it out for you and it's easy for them to essentially ruin your reputation with only a few taps on a keyboard.

by Anonymousreply 5810/14/2013

r13 / r50 you are completely wrong about homeschooling. Do you or have you ever worked in the public school system? I have and there are things in there that are horrible. Even in the best schools.

It is preferable imho that children get homeschooled rather than bullied. You would rather that a child gets bullied & kills themself? Is that what you're advocating? Transferring schools doesn't HELP. The bullies have friends at the new school.

You have to homeschool or send your child to a really really expensive private school. The parents of bullied children need to sell their home if they can't afford to do this & live in an apartment or a rental they can afford on one income. Otherwise they can and oftentimes do, lose their child.

by Anonymousreply 5910/14/2013

Ummmm R34, you do know you could have changed your AOL screen-name or set your IM preferences to block/allow certain users?

by Anonymousreply 6010/15/2013

It seems to be mostly a girl-on-girl or boy-on-girl thing. Girls don't like to be 'direct' when they bully someone, it's ways underhanded and the internet is a perfect medium for that.

I've also noticed this type of behaviour in discussion boards, men are very direct with their insults/disagreements, women on the other hand wrap them up in hearts, flowers and rainbows, making treacherously sacharine statements like 'let's all agree to disagree'.

A random group of women/girls at school, college or work can seem very well-behaved and unperturbed on the surface, when in reality there's a quagmire of intense hatred and jealousy lurking right underneath. Things can go out of hand pretty quickly as well, for no apparent reason, I've seen this happen at work a lot.

by Anonymousreply 6110/15/2013

r61 that is accurate, especially this part

[quote]I've also noticed this type of behaviour in discussion boards, men are very direct with their insults/disagreements, women on the other hand wrap them up in hearts, flowers and rainbows, making treacherously sacharine statements like 'let's all agree to disagree'.

When I am very direct in my disagreement with women on the internet, they really get their fur up and act as if I have run over their puppy. Unless you couch whatever you have to say in the vaguest, most indirect and overly friendly terms, women cannot handle it. Or they simply refuse to handle it because you're being "mean". Even if what THEY said that you were responding to was quite nasty.

by Anonymousreply 6210/15/2013

Here's a good example in real life! From the Thomas Roberts thread today:

“Do you hate Obamacare more than you love your country?” Roberts wondered.

“I think that comments like that, that you are making, are just incredibly inappropriate,” Blackburn replied.

“You don’t think it’s incredibly inappropriate to shut down our government and take all the hostages of Americans that you’ve taken?” Roberts pressed. “No, no, no. It’s not inappropriate because you’ve taken the government hostage through a shutdown. And all the American people, you’re now walking them to a cliff, the economy, and you’re going to push them over, one by one, based on the fact that you don’t like the ACA. That’s all it is.”

“Listen to yourself! We didn’t want a government shutdown,” Blackburn insisted. “Just listen to the way you’re sounding. My goodness! We didn’t want a government shutdown. We don’t want a government default.”

Roberts reminded the Tennessee Republican that she had told the Economic Club of Nashville that conservative lawmakers should do “everything we can do” to derail the health care reform law, and then she praised the efforts of Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX).

“You have been planning a shutdown since August!” Roberts charged.

“Not at all!” Blackburn shot back. “What you are doing is so inappropriate. We didn’t want a shutdown. What we want to do is solve problems.”

My goodness, he is sounding so inappropriate!!

by Anonymousreply 6310/15/2013

My niece Sarah was bullied in school about 10+ years ago by a pack of mean girls. It was physical, in-your-face torture, like hiding her clothes during gym class so she'd have to wear her gym clothes for the rest of the day. One time she arrived to school to find a used maxi pad stuck to the outside of her locker. Another time she opened her locker and there was a photo of her, cut out so it was just her body, hanging from a noose on the hook of the locker. The girls started an "I Hate Sarah" myspace page and posted all sorts of horrible crap on it. My brother and his wife went to the school a number of times to get them to intervene and nothing was ever done.

Eventually, they took her out and sent her to private school for the rest of jr. high.

She ended up having a choice of public high schools and went to the one on the other side of town where those girls didn't go. Sarah ended up being student council president and started an anti-bullying initiative and implemented a "best buddies" program that partnered good kids up with those who had trouble making friends. Despite her experiences, she always had very healthy self-esteem but I can see how easily it could have turned out differently.

Girls at that age can be pure evil.

by Anonymousreply 6410/15/2013

Wow, r64. I'm happy for your niece. I cannot imagine having to be the nerdy kid who got teased in today's day and age. It would be pure hell. It was bad when I was a kid in the 80s, but at least I got a break from the name calling and teasing when I got home.

by Anonymousreply 6510/15/2013

People shouldn't cyber bully, but people should also be taught that taking your own life is not a viable solution. Somebody loves you, baby and your pussy still needs to get popped.

by Anonymousreply 6610/15/2013

One of us here feels very strongly about this subject matter as has been on a bender since this past weekend.

by Anonymousreply 6710/15/2013

The description of the 14 year old is nearly sociopathic. It and the parents' reactions pissed police off enough to decide to release names and mug shots:

Judd said that a feud had erupted after the 14-year-old suspect began dating a boy that Rebecca had been seeing. She "didn't like that and began to harass and ultimately torment Rebecca," Judd said.

The sheriff said the 14-year-old was "very cold, had no emotion at all upon her arrest." The second suspect was once the victim's best friend.

Judd said the pair were allegedly the main culprits, but that the investigation continues into the possible involvement by other young girls.

The sheriff said the tipping point leading to the arrests came when one of the suspects purportedly showed a lack of remorse for Rebecca's death by allegedly posting on Facebook on Saturday: "Yes ik [I know] I bullied REBECCA nd she killed her self but IDGAF [I don't give a f***]"

The suspect told deputies that her Facebook account was hacked and that she did not write that post, WTSP-TV reports.

The sheriff's office says that in interviews recently with detectives, the 12-year-old suspect "admitted that she 'bullied' Rebecca, and that she was sorry for doing it.

Judd said that police decided to make the arrests out of concern that the girls would pick a new victim.

"We decided, look, we can't leave her out there," Judd said. "Who else is she going to torment? Who else is she going to harass? Who is the next person she verbally and mentally abuses and attacks?"

He said that their parents did not cooperate with police, would not bring them in to the police, nor stop their daughters' use of social media.

Judd also took the unusual step of releasing the photographs of the two suspects, although they are juveniles.

by Anonymousreply 6810/15/2013

r64 that is amazing that she could turn it around to that degree. Kudos to her parents for being so proactive. Unfortunately, many parents cannot afford private school and most people are zoned into a high school and do not have a choice of schools. I wish I could have left my junior high (as it was called back then) and am amazed at how many "cool" and attractive people I have met in life who were bullied mercilessly in middle school. The fact that she made new friends so easily shows how kids that are bullied are made to feel worthless when there is nothing wrong with them.

by Anonymousreply 6910/15/2013

HOLY SHIT MY COMPUTER SCREEN CRACKED FROM THE UGLINESS OF THE THOSE TWO GIRLS. Seriously, the fact they called anyone ugly is amazing. I am so proud of the sheriff!!

by Anonymousreply 7010/15/2013

r69, my SIL had to get a job to pay for the private school (but that's another whole issue). The public school did nothing about this. Granted, this was over 10 years ago, and there is a lot more attention on the issue. I think most schools have anti-bullying mandates these days.

In my niece's case, the mean girls were formerly her friends. She was at a sleep over party when they were 12 and they all started a campaign to ignore her. No one would speak to her or even look at her. She called my SIL to pick her up. To this day she has no idea what made them turn on her, but it escalated steadily from ignoring to torture. When Sarah's parents contacted some of the other girl's parents, they started out like like "it's just a phase, kids just outgrow each other, they don't mean any harm" and then the parents were in complete denial that their kid was involved with any sort of bullying.

Girls that age want to fit in no matter what, and haven't developed the emotional maturity and judgment to know when their leader and their group actions are psychotic.

She's a good kid with strong family support, but as I said, I know it could have so easily gone the other way. It breaks my heart to hear of kids doing this to each other, and when the victim just can't take it anymore.

by Anonymousreply 7110/15/2013

In Holland there recently was a murder that involved facebook (it was dubbed 'The Facebookkilling').

A girl had gotten into a fight with her former best friend (who had accused her of cheating on FB). This girl and her pussywhipped boyfriend then hired a teenage contract killer (an acquaintance of theirs) to kill her former friend and he did so by stabbing her to death. All three of them are now in a youth-prison for the criminally insane.

by Anonymousreply 7210/15/2013

r64, thanks for adding more details. I am not sure if the schools would be more receptive now, most are but it is not uncommon to hear that parents pleas are ignored, especially if the bullying is not physical. What happened to your niece is depressingly common among girls. I have a daughter and would do anything to save her from that fate. It seems to happen to every girl, regardless of looks or personality, at one time is completely cast of her peer group for no reason, or at least not one that merits having no friends at all. It is depressing how little has changed since I was in school, despite all of the anti-bullying rhetoric. I am thrilled your niece could not only escape but help others as well.

by Anonymousreply 7310/15/2013

This goes on in schools more than any actual learning.

by Anonymousreply 7410/15/2013

CONSEQUENCES WILL NEVER BE THE SAME!!!! YOU DUN GOOFED!

by Anonymousreply 7510/15/2013

The cold one looks like Fetal Alcohol Syndrome.

by Anonymousreply 7610/15/2013

I've never met a Guadalupe I've liked.

by Anonymousreply 7710/15/2013

dumb ass ho ho should have canceled facebook, email, instagram etc. and stayed home school.

can't harrass you if you ain't online peaches

by Anonymousreply 7810/15/2013

ugly dumb cunts hope they rot in a real prison.

by Anonymousreply 7910/15/2013

This is so disturbing. On the other hand, it's probably no worse than when I was a kid except the explosion of social media allows the bully to intensify the attack many times over. What's wrong with these kids?

by Anonymousreply 8010/15/2013

I'm not a parent, but I wouldn't want my kids cruising the internets. Too many opportunities to be exploited and abused at that age.

Thought how would you prevent it? They'll just go to the library or use a friend's.

My last two relationships ended because I caught them cheating online.

I've weaned myself off so much of it: pron, social sites, email. I've turned the clock back to 1990.

by Anonymousreply 8110/15/2013

Two girls charged in case of bullied Florida girl who committed suicide

Two girls, ages 12 and 14, have been charged with aggravated stalking for what a Florida sheriff described Tuesday as "maliciously harassing" a 12-year-old girl who jumped from a tower to her death.

The middle school students were booked into a juvenile detention center on Monday night and released to their parents under house arrest, Polk County Sheriff Grady Judd said.

Rebecca Sedwick, 12, jumped to her death from a third-story cement plant structure in central Florida on Sept. 10 after being verbally, physically and cyber bullied throughout 2012 and 2013, Judd said.

"She should be here. And she should be here to see justice getting served," her mother, Tricia Norman said.

At a Tuesday news conference, Judd said investigators were in the midst of gathering information from social media sites about the bullies’ interactions with Sedwick, but a Facebook post by the 14-year-old which read, “yes I bullied Rebecca and she killed herself, but I don’t give a (expletive),” prompted Monday's arrests.

Judd said detectives arrested the 12-year-old, who was one of Sedwick’s “primary” bullies, because they decided, “We can’t leave her out there. Who else is she going to torment, who else is she going to harass?”

While bullying is not a crime, Judd said, the girls have been charged with aggravated stalking — a third-degree felony — because the victim was younger than 16 years old.

"We've lost sleep over that child dying needlessly. And we want to see things change," Judd said.

In addition to the 14-year-old's Facebook confession, Judd said both girls made "incriminating statements" when they were arrested.

He said the girls’ case would proceed in the juvenile system and any punishment would depend on juvenile sanctions, adding, “it won’t be severe enough, in my estimation, for this conduct.”

Judd said the 14-year-old started to “torment” Sedwick in 2012 and according to a Polk County Sheriff’s statement, other children at the school also started bullying Sedwick to avoid being bullied themselves. The 12-year-old was Sedwick’s former “best friend,” Judd said.

Sedwick’s mother removed her daughter from the school, but the bullying continued online, where the 14-year-old wrote harassing insults, including that Sedwick should “kill herself” and “drink bleach and die,” Judd said.

“We believe that it certainly contributed to [Sedwick] jumping from the cement towers,” Judd said.

by Anonymousreply 8210/16/2013

Bullying has gone on for three gazillion years and everyone learned to cope with it. Now we have raised two generations of people who can't cope with the tiniest of things or not be on a cell phone for more than ten seconds.

by Anonymousreply 8310/16/2013

99% of these female bullies we encounter in middle school end up being just as shitty as adults that we have to encounter in the workplace/grocery store/etc., except now they're protected by a perverse understanding of 'feminism' which allows them to attack at will with no remorse.

by Anonymousreply 8410/16/2013

and they are all anti-feminist, R84!

by Anonymousreply 8510/16/2013

The internet and social media is unavoidable. But I guess I don't understand how parents can give their 12 year-olds free and unfettered access to it. They're children. It's like letting them play unsupervised on a busy freeway.

My 13 year old niece begged and pleaded with her parents to allow her to open a facebook account. All her friends were on FB and she felt left out. My sister and her husband finally relented. But the rules are that they know the password to this and her email account and they will check them and her private messages regularly.

They also make their presence on their daughter's FB page known. They posts things on her wall, comment on her posts and her friends posts, and so on.

They make it clear to her daughter and her daughter's friends that this isn't private bully time. Mom and Dad are in the room and they're carefully watching every move.

I realize a lot of parents claim that they're too busy to properly care for their children. But my sister and her husband are busy professionals too. And they've made their daughter and her safety a priority.

by Anonymousreply 8610/16/2013

The parents are in total denial and lying through their teeth.

The parents of one of the teenage girls accused of bullying Rebecca Sedwick to suicide said they monitored their daughter's Facebook activities nightly and saw no signs of bullying, leading them to believe someone hacked her account.

The stunned parents of the 14-year-old girl charged with felony aggravated stalking described their daughter as a "lovable," "caring" girl who was not a bully. They are the parents of seven and say they pride themselves on their involvement with their children's lives.

"I would check her Facebook every time she would get on it," the suspect's mother told ABC News Tuesday night.

The teen's father said, "If we saw something that was not right, we would've addressed it and it would've ended right then."

The parents said they monitored their daughters Facebook account and her cellphone.

The parents are reeling from the vile portrait Polk County Sheriff Grady Judd painted of their daughter. Judd accused the 14-year-old and a 12-year-old girl of leading the digital torment against the 12-year-old Rebecca, who jumped from a concrete silo tower to her death Sept. 9.

Teen Charged in Fatal Cyberbullying Case of Rebecca Sedwick to Remain in Jail

The two girls were arrested and charged Monday night with felony aggravated stalking in Rebecca's death, who would've celebrated her 13th birthday this weekend.

The 14-year-old's parents tearfully lashed out at Judd for exposing their daughter's name and photo on live TV Tuesday during a news conference to announce the charges. Judd also identified the younger suspect. ABC News is not revealing either girl's identity because they have been charged as juveniles.

"My daughter don't deserve to be in the place she's in right now and I just hope that the truth comes to the surface so we can get out of this nightmare," her father told ABC News.

When asked whether their daughter's Facebook account was hacked, her father replied, "Oh, I'm sure of that."

The teen's mother added: "Yeah, we're sure of that."

The father of the younger alleged bully told ABC News he wishes he could have done more if he knew more about social media.

"I feel horrible about the whole situation," he said. "It's my fault, maybe that I don't know more about that kind of stuff. I wish I did."

The parents of the accused 14-year-old say their daughter will most likely remain in the juvenile wing of the Polk County Jail until her next hearing Oct. 25.

Judd said Tuesday he brought both girls into custody because he saw a lack of remorse.

He pointed to a Facebook post allegedly written this weekend by the 14-year-old suspect that said, "'Yes, I bullied Rebecca and she killed herself but I don't give a f---."

Judd said, "You can add the last word yourself."

The suspect's mother denied her daughter would ever write something so heinous on Facebook.

"No, she wouldn't write anything like that. She's not that type of girl that would just say something like that," her mother said.

The teen's father said whenever he saw inappropriate language on his daughter's social media accounts, he would bring it to her attention immediately.

"I'll be honest with you, the only time we saw something, like her language maybe not appropriate, we would address her and say you can't be like this. And there'd be a lot of times where my wife would be looking through the phone and making sure everything's good," her father said.

The alleged bullying started in December 2012 when Rebecca and the two suspects were students at Crystal Lake Middle School, according to a statement from the Polk County Sheriff's Office.

Judd said the 14-year-old suspect had started dating a boy Rebecca had been seeing, but the girl "didn't like that and began to harass and ultimately torment Rebecca."

The teen allegedly sent Rebecca menacing messages on Facebook calling her ugly, telling her to "drink bleach and die," and encouraging her to kill herself, police said.

by Anonymousreply 8710/16/2013

The parents are lying through their teeth. It's not hard to see her past posts and see if she actually bullied the other girl and it is certainly not hard to see if she was hacked or not. They should just STFU and admit they raised a psychotic monster.

by Anonymousreply 8810/16/2013

Fucking trash. Hope those two meet "Johnny" in juvenile hall.

by Anonymousreply 8910/16/2013

All these girls, including the victim, lived in trailers out in the sticks. Guadelupe has the shittiest digs, with the family's laundry strung out all over the yard and on the fence.

There's very little parenting going on.

Rebecca's mother did take her out of school for months until she could get her into an excellent middle school where the kids actually have lives, so I give her that. She didn't, however, take away her phone. Such a mistake.

by Anonymousreply 9010/16/2013

r90, bullying goes on across all socioeconomic lines, with often the richer children being the worst kind of bullies. I hope you are not implying only poor kids bully.

by Anonymousreply 9110/16/2013

No, r90, I'm saying that these are not princesses from Heathers or Mean Girls like many like to assume. These are girls that live in a rough world. That ringleader girl looks hard as hell.

I live in this town and was just adding color commentary on the story. I know the school they all attended and there are a lot of neglected, free range children around there with little else to do.

The new, good school Rebecca was briefly in is free. It's a magnet and your parents have to give a damn enough about you to get off the couch and apply to get you in. The kids there are heavily involved in activities and have to stay out of trouble to remain enrolled.

by Anonymousreply 9210/17/2013

Thanks for clearing that up r92. Bullying is a horrendous issue with so many layers and complications. I will say both girls do look like pure evil. I wonder how much was circumstance and how much was from their DNA.

by Anonymousreply 9310/17/2013

The mom of the sociopathic-looking girl got arrested today for child neglect and an unrelated child physical abuse incident (that one of her other dumb-ass kids posted video of on FB).

Watch the video of her going to booking, if only to see a DL perfect storm of fashion atrocities. I'm still trying to figure out if the red up her ass crack is part of the tie-dye pattern or period blood. I can't believe this heifer is only 30.

by Anonymousreply 9410/18/2013

the mother looks like she's an old hand at getting arrested.

by Anonymousreply 9510/18/2013

Yeah, the mom does look really natural with her arms behind her back. I'm pretty sure the parents have substance abuse problems.

by Anonymousreply 9610/18/2013

I wonder what Janet Jackson has to say about all of this. Wasn't she picked on as a child growing up in Gary, Indiana? Janet needs to record a PSA and win some type of humanitarian award for promoting a Rhythm Nation.

by Anonymousreply 9710/18/2013

but it is wonderful publicity for "Carrie"

by Anonymousreply 9810/18/2013

Wrong, R83. True bullying isn't teasing. It's sustained, it's frightening, and it's potentially soul destroying. I was bullied in high school for being gay, for so long and so extensively that even when it was over I felt like it was still going on. I was still afraid to walk down halls at my high school as senior. Real bullying has a powerful affect on the victim, as the suicides illustrate.

by Anonymousreply 9910/18/2013

+1 r99. Bullying is not simply teasing or even just excluding someone (you can't play with us). Bullying is purposeful, calculating actions to make another person feel worthless. Teasing is inconsiderate and rude. Bullying can destroy a life. Anyone that thinks bullying is a normal part of growing up needs to never raise a child. It is the difference between being unpopular and being terrorized.

by Anonymousreply 10010/19/2013

Leave Britney Alone!!

It's not just kids. Often the parents log in as the kids to leave shitty comments. Also, that principal that recently made it his mission to get that poor football player that streaked at his HS game a sex offender is a good example of how sometimes teachers and school administrators are the biggest assholes you'll ever meet. I read somewhere one time about someone who said that when in HS the school jock impaled a squirrel on his car antenna. He reported it, and the principal's reaction was something like 'well if you weren't so e-fem-in-nate these things wouldn't happen to you.'

by Anonymousreply 10110/19/2013

I think low-IQ people (borderline mentally retarded) should be discouraged from having children. Sometimes those children grow up to be normal adults, but in most cases they don't.

by Anonymousreply 10210/19/2013

Bullying happens with any parent that does not parent their child. This is especially true with wealthier parents who have a 22 year old nanny take care of their child or cannot believe Ashtyn or Isobella would ever do anything deserving a reprimand.

by Anonymousreply 10310/19/2013

At age 12/13, I (female) had the same experience of having friends suddenly turn on me and mercilessly bully me. I, too, never knew why. Our school was large and they recruited girls one and two grades ahead of me that I didn't even know. Groups of them. I was out faking "sick" as much as I could be throughout 7th grade because it was intollerable. I went to our school counselor (a clueless, clumbsy man who hated his job) and he told me I must have done something to have caused this. That's all he basically said as I sat in his office day after day bawling.

It was unreal how it escalated and how brutal they were. This was in the 70's and I really think if the internet was around back then, I might not have survived it. Luckly, my dad got a promotion and we moved to a new state so I could start anew in the 8th grade. I wasn't in a household where my folks could've helped so I didn't ask for their help, plus I knew it would really hit the fan if I got my parents involved. The schools back then did nothing. I would be bullied visciously in my classes and the teachers did nothing, literally ignored it, even when I burst into tears.

Years later, in therapy, I talked about this and my therapist pointed out something I never realized. That this was the time I was starting to develop and I was starting to be considered pretty to guys and was getting noticed by the guys in my class and those a few years ahead of me. My therapist said that is often a trigger in girls during puberty to gang up and bully. And maybe that's why. I just know when bullying girls form gangs, they are inhuman monsters. My heart goes out to anyone trying to survive this.

by Anonymousreply 10410/19/2013

We should invite that bully to a free lifetime membership in DataLounge. I sense a starlette in the making.

by Anonymousreply 10510/19/2013

We are raising a nation of aggressive haters by providing them with multiple platforms to be mean and vindictive. You're not going to stop the haters, but you can decide which social media outlets you'll allow your child to be a part of. That's part of parenting today. You don't need to be on Facebook or Twitter or Instagram to have a fulfilling life as a teenager or tween, yet many have beem brainwashed into rhinking otherwise. If you don't want that influence coming into your home, then step up, be a parent, and disallow its usage in the household you the adult manage.

by Anonymousreply 10610/19/2013

Very impressive, R21. How did your niece ultimately turn out? And does your sister work outside the home?

by Anonymousreply 10710/19/2013

Love that the two young cunts names are out there for all to see. Hope they get tortured to the point of suicide so they can see what it's like. Don't dish it out if you can't take it, sweetie!

by Anonymousreply 10810/19/2013

it is the new normal...you just have to teach kids to deal with it

by Anonymousreply 10910/19/2013

Kind Campaign: How kindness can put a stop to bullying -

by Anonymousreply 11010/16/2014
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