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Somali immigrants

Why are they being settled in Minnesota and Maine, the coldest states in the U.S.?

by Anonymousreply 8610/15/2013

I noticed them in Minnesota too, mostly working in parking garages. Gorgeous men, their hair is curly not kinky. Definite Arab mixture. But they aren't going to Minnesota of their free will? Who is putting them there and why?

by Anonymousreply 110/12/2013

Gorgeous skin. Like silk dark chocolate.

by Anonymousreply 310/12/2013

They're not an "Arab mixture." They're intermediate.

by Anonymousreply 710/12/2013

There are a lot of social services set up in Minneapolis-St Paul (many set up specifically for Somalis) and other areas of Minnesota to make the transition to life in the U.S. easier for Somali immigrants.

It is easy for Somali immigrants to find all types of social service assistance in Minneapolis-St Paul and other areas of Minnesota.

The social service agencies have been set up quite a while for them.

Also, relatives of Somali immigrants already established in Minnesota follow their relatives to the Twin Cities and the state, so the population continues to increase due to relatives following other relatives.

by Anonymousreply 810/12/2013

They really are some of the most beautiful people. r3 describes their skin color perfectly, like silky dark chocolate.

by Anonymousreply 1110/12/2013

What if the fabric is black muslin?

by Anonymousreply 1210/12/2013

not attractive at all

many are very skinny and homely

many have very volatile hostile personalities

the Somali women in the U.S. are often suppressed by their culture and by their men, many or most wear veils, some covering most of their face, some partially covered faces

domestic violence in Somali households and joining of radical muslim sects are problems in the Twin Cities

by Anonymousreply 1310/12/2013

Why did churches in Minnesota decide to sponsor them? Are the Somalis Christian or Muslim?

by Anonymousreply 1410/12/2013

You must respect their traditions like female circumcision, murdering gays, brutality, etc etc.

by Anonymousreply 1510/12/2013

R13 and R15 are right. They are typically not nice people. Lots of domestic violence. The women are abused physically and emotionally. I'm not being racist, I am just stating my experiences.

by Anonymousreply 1610/12/2013

R14, Somalis are muslim.

Lots of Muslim temples have sprung up in Minnesota, South Dakota, Iowa.

And also in Minneapolis-St Paul, there are special Somali/Muslim recreational educational centers.

There is a world-wide demographic shift of large muslim populations springing up in many countries, many states, and many cities.

by Anonymousreply 1710/12/2013

R14, yes, churches in Minnesota do sponsor the Somali immigrants and volunteer based special social service organizations were and are set up to help the Somali immigrants - services available both in and out of the usual state social service agencies.

by Anonymousreply 1810/12/2013

[quote]Muslim temples

R17, you are the typical American idiot.

by Anonymousreply 1910/12/2013

Maine has no residency requirement in order to receive welfare benefits. You can move to Maine tomorrow and apply and start getting benefits. This, needless to say, has made Maine a target location for transients as well.

by Anonymousreply 2110/12/2013

I see them coming in and out of the local public housing office here in Seattle daily in their burkas. Guess they're not too proud to take "infidel" money?

by Anonymousreply 2210/12/2013

mosque, sorry

by Anonymousreply 2310/12/2013

R19, R20, you are so quick to ridicule, what crummy lousy personalities and lack of character you have

from based on Random House Dictionary 2013

mosque [mosk, mawsk]

a Muslim temple or place of public worship.

by Anonymousreply 2410/12/2013

just about every taxi driver in Minneapolis and St Paul is a Somalian

since so many have volatile, hostile personalities, it is not fun having them as taxi driver

they are also orderlies and low level nursing assistants at Mpls-St Paul hospitals - because of their volatile hostile personalities also not fun

by Anonymousreply 2510/12/2013

Tons in Kansas City. They have a very large enclave in the Northeast neighborhood, formerly home to the Italians.

by Anonymousreply 2610/12/2013

definition of mosque:

Muslim temple or place of public worship

as cited in multiple dictionaries

see based on Random House Dictionary to begin your education

by Anonymousreply 2910/12/2013

Not really, r28. Mainstream America doesn't know much outside of Christianity.

You're over doing it...

by Anonymousreply 3010/12/2013

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by Anonymousreply 3210/12/2013

sorry, meant to copy and paste just first two paragraphs - accidentally printed - didn't mean to print all this

by Anonymousreply 3310/12/2013

They want them to be among friendly people which is why they aren't settling them in NYC, Philly, LA, or anywhere very red.

by Anonymousreply 3510/13/2013

The women and are beautiful: tall, and willowy. The model Iman is Somali. The men, however, are ;ugly, scrawny, monstrosities. The same can be said about their Ethiopian neighbors. Stunning women, highly unattractive men.

In Africa they say, go East for the beautiful women, and west for the hot guys.

by Anonymousreply 3610/13/2013

I think Ethiopian men can be very stunning, but Somali women are a lot of fat old hags to me.

by Anonymousreply 3710/13/2013

They don't adapt to the country they're living in, instead they bring their own [hateful] culture.

by Anonymousreply 3810/13/2013

Angelina Jolie's kid Zahara is Ethiopian or Somali and happens to be gorgeous.

by Anonymousreply 4010/13/2013

I've had unfortunate run-ins with Somali taxi drivers in Minneapolis and with Somali orderlies/low level nursing assistants in a Minneapolis hospital.

Quite unpleasant with their antagonistic, volatile, hostile, hateful personalities.

They've ruined the taxi cab business in Minneapolis-St Paul since 99 percent of the taxi drivers are now Somalian.

They bring to the U.S. their volatile, hostile personalities which were developed under war conditions and unfortunate conditions in their own country.

And too many of the men are being recruited to violent, radical Muslim sects

by Anonymousreply 4110/13/2013

There are a good number of Somali women working at Target in Mpls-St Paul as cash register clerks where they wear their full veils and full traditional Somali clothing.

by Anonymousreply 4210/13/2013

Meh. Give them a generation or two. They'll move around and inter-breed like most Americans. Soon they'll be pale chocolate and living in Palm Springs.

by Anonymousreply 4310/13/2013

R35, no, it is because Minneapolis-St Paul and places in the rest of Minnesota have extensive social service organizations and social service agencies set up to help them get settled.

Plus relatives follow other relative to the places in Minnesota where their relatives are already settled.

by Anonymousreply 4410/13/2013

Sorry, it was one group of people/men that I have never found, even one man, slighty attractive. The men have very feminine features and are scrawny. The women can be beautiful. It's funny, here in DC the Ethiopian/Eritrean women who are westernized dress unbelievable slutty and wear drag queen make up. It's almost funny how they get it so wrong.

by Anonymousreply 4510/13/2013

The Somali and Ethopian men do not date and marry white women.

They need women from their own culture in order to suppress and oppress them, and to keep them in their place of being subservient and victims of domestic abuse.

by Anonymousreply 4610/13/2013

Minnesota and Minneapolis-St Paul area also have the largest populations of Hmong in the U.S.

So Minnesota has both the largest populations of Somali and Hmong in the U.S.

Other places in some of the other Midwestern states have large numbers of Somali and Eritrean too.

by Anonymousreply 4710/13/2013

Minnesota is not nearly as cold as you think.

The summers are very not and often very humid.

The springs are gorgeous and the autumns are stunningly gorgeous with beautiful temperatures.

The winters over the past 10 to 20 years or more often have little snow, and the really cold temps are getting more and more rare.

Even before global climate change, Minnesota at the middle and southern parts of the state were never as cold or as bad as you think.

The temps from the very northern part of the state get touted in the press - but those temps are just at the very most northern part of the state by Duluth and International Falls and the Canadian border.

Living in Minneapolis-St Paul and other parts in the central and middle and southern part of the state are great places to live. Particularly Minneapolis-St Paul is a great place to live.

by Anonymousreply 4910/13/2013

sorry, the summer are very hot and often very humid

by Anonymousreply 5010/13/2013

[quote]And too many of the men are being recruited to violent, radical Muslim sects

It's true. The men who attacked the Westgate mall in Nairobi, Kenya were Somali. They're disliked even by their African neighbors.

by Anonymousreply 5110/13/2013

And two of the Somali men in the Nairobi, Kenya shopping mall attack were directly from Minneapolis-St Paul.

by Anonymousreply 5210/13/2013

Minneapolis-St Paul has been getting a lot of good press lately as a top place to live. They say it has a high quality of life and MN residents are the healthiest in the country. Great health care system. Third highest rate of gay couples in the nation.

The only negative they say is the cold weather, although R49 disputes that.

by Anonymousreply 5310/13/2013

I have friends from Ghana, Senegal, Kenya, Cameroon and Congo and they're all so different and adapt easily to Western culture. The Somalis and Ethiopians, otoh, live in their own little recreations of their homelands and refuse to intergrate.

by Anonymousreply 5410/13/2013

R49 is correct, the very cold or disruptively snowy/icy weather has become less common in the metro area the past two decades. (However it's also true that the native standard of a mild winter isn't the same standard an L.A. native would have.)

by Anonymousreply 5510/13/2013

[quote] They don't adapt to the country they're living in, instead they bring their own [hateful] culture.

That seems to be typical of all immigrant groups these days.

by Anonymousreply 5610/13/2013

Will a US doctor perform a female circumcision if the parents insist?

by Anonymousreply 5710/13/2013

I don't think so, R57.

I find Ethiopians are integrated more than Somalis, but most of them are Christians; Eritreans seem to integrate well, too. I think forcing Somali girls to attend local public schools by law has helped with future generations.

by Anonymousreply 5910/13/2013

In my area they have their own charter school, and I expect there will be more of them in the future, slowing integration.

by Anonymousreply 6010/13/2013

R53, they lose points for the Minnesota Orchestra going bankrupt and canceling the season.

by Anonymousreply 6110/13/2013

What is the restaurant scene like in Minn-St. Paul? Shopping? Real estate market?

by Anonymousreply 6210/13/2013

R61, the musicians in the Orchestra have been on strike, striking for good wages and labor issues.

by Anonymousreply 6310/13/2013

R63, the music director has quit and left, and concerts are already being cancelled.

by Anonymousreply 6410/13/2013

I know, R61, R64.

That doesn't mean the Minnesota Orchestra will be disbanded forever.

They are on strike, stiking for good wages and labor issues.

The Orchestra can come back.

All of the concerts were cancelled this season, except for the special concerts performed by the musicians of the Orchestra organized and presented by the musicians without the formal structure of the Orchestra.

Just last weekend, there were three major concerts at a different venue by all the Orchestra members. Those are the final concerts under the leaving conductor.

The Orchestra is not kaput forever.

by Anonymousreply 6510/13/2013

Most first generation immigrants don't assimilate well. Ever heard of little Italy or Chinatown? It is a gradual process.

I really don't care what R49 says, Minnesota is fucking cold. And Michele Bachman is from there.

by Anonymousreply 6610/13/2013

But they are NOT PRETTY!

by Anonymousreply 6710/13/2013

Isn't Alaska colder than Maine?

by Anonymousreply 6810/13/2013

And Minnesota gave us U.S. SenatorPaul Wellstone (the most left-wing U.S. Senator ever) and Al Franken and Amy Klobuchar, two of the best U.S. Senators, and the current Minnesota Governor, Mark Dayton, who is a left-wing Democrat

And Mitt Romney represented the state of Massachusetts as Governor, the same state which gave us Barney Frank, and tons of other liberals

And Ronald Reagan represented California as Governor, the same state which gave us Jerry Brown, Barbra Boxer, and tons of other liberals

The list is endless.

Only a very naïve, uninformed person without any historical perspective who has little knowledge of the range of representatives in the U.S. House and U.S.Senate and Governor's seats over time from each state would be hung up on one representative.

by Anonymousreply 6910/13/2013

When I was at the Mayo clinic last summer the city was crawling with them. They have a nice accent and lovely skin for the most part.

And yes it started as church sponsored with many communities participating. Unfortunately gangs have sprouted up in Minn/St Paul and things in some areas are getting ugly. Also some of the young men are becoming Taliban Muslim types.

I was glad to come home to my hippie haven town.

by Anonymousreply 7010/14/2013

Apparently, the threat of radicalization within the Minnesota Somali community(some of whom were part of the Al-Shabaab Jihad attack in Kenya)is so great that one of their most respected leaders has testified before Congress about the problem.

The Muslim Brotherhood front group CAIR has, of course, done everything it can to discredit this man and stop him from getting the information to the public.

by Anonymousreply 7110/14/2013

Because Multiculturalism works!

by Anonymousreply 7210/14/2013

The thing is, multiculturalism works if you are Hindu or Sikh or Buddhist or Jewish or Zoroastrian but what wer'e seeing around Europe,Indonesia, the Phillipines and eventually the U.S. is that it doesn't work particularly well for a LOT of Muslims.

by Anonymousreply 7310/14/2013

R70, the gangs in St Paul, Minnesota (St Paul is 12 miles from Minneapolis, but they are connected somewhat as Twin Cities) are mostly comprised of Hmong and black young men.

Are there now gang members who are Somali?

by Anonymousreply 7410/14/2013

There are definitely Somali gangs, a few have been involved in prostitution. The Somalis started out small, but now are quickly becoming a burden. A lot are on welfare and other " help" programs. You can thank Lutheran Social Services for most of them. There were several newsworthy cases in Minnesota involving Somalis. One Somali bus driver took issue with an advertisement on her bus for Lavender which is the local gay mag. Another was a problem with Somali taxi drivers refusing to transport people carrying alcohol, people with seeing eye dogs, and gay folks. The last one was Somali cashiers at Target refusing to checkout people who were purchasing pork. They are a hateful homophobic, non assimilating people. I personally don't believe they are beneficial to our community one bit. Rude and also very horrible drivers.

by Anonymousreply 7510/14/2013

Shouldn't have taken them in. There's no getting rid of them now.

by Anonymousreply 7610/14/2013

In Oregon too...

by Anonymousreply 7710/14/2013

I think the question should be:

Why are they being settled here at ALL?

by Anonymousreply 7810/14/2013

R69 has the inability to get jokes.

by Anonymousreply 7910/14/2013

How do Somalis vote? If they vote for Democrats they could stop Minnesota from electing Republicans.

by Anonymousreply 8010/14/2013

Here's the old 2009 youtube video that went viral 4 years ago with Somali youth harassing a gay man - and if anything it's got worse in the Twin Cities since then.

by Anonymousreply 8110/14/2013

In Canada there was an epidemic of young Somali men getting killed in Alberta.

by Anonymousreply 8210/15/2013

In the current U.S. House of Representatives, Minnesota has FIVE representatives who are Democrats and THREE representatives who are Republican.

The two U.S. Senators currently representing Minnesota are both leftist Democrats, Al Franken and Amy Klobuchar.

The current Governor of Minnesota is a leftist Democrat, Mark Dayton.

You don't need to worry about Minnesota not electing Democrats, R80.

As you can see above, Minnesota elects mainly Democrats and leftist Democrats at that.

by Anonymousreply 8310/15/2013

The Minnesota Orchestra is relocating to Utica, NY.

by Anonymousreply 8410/15/2013

They are the absolute worst immigrants of anyone. I'll take 100 Latino illegals rather than 1 radical Islamic, hateful, homophobic, extremist Somali. Gross people, gross religion, gross culture.

by Anonymousreply 8510/15/2013


Hear Hear!

by Anonymousreply 8610/15/2013
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