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WASHINGTON -- House Republicans said Saturday that the White House has rejected their offer to temporarily increase the debt ceiling and open the government.

Members leaving a closed-door meeting said House Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio) told them talks with President Barack Obama on how to end the government shutdown and avert the looming Oct. 17 deadline to raise the nation's borrowing cap, had reached a dead end. There was also concern that the White House might strike a deal with Senate Republicans, who presented their own plan to Obama on Friday.

Many lawmakers, including House Majority Leader Eric Cantor (R-Va.), said it was now up to their colleagues in the Senate to hold firm so that Republicans in both chambers would appear united.

"I'm disappointed that the president has rejected the offer that we put on the table," Cantor told reporters after the meeting. "I know that he's trying to see which Republican senator he can pick off in the Senate. I hope that the Senate Republicans stand strong so we can speak with one voice."

House Republicans had put forward a proposal to extend the debt limit for six weeks and work quickly to reopen the government, if the president agreed to a broader framework for deficit reduction. They presented the plan to Obama in a meeting at the White House Thursday evening. Both sides said afterward that discussions would continue, though neither the White House nor GOP leadership said they were close to a deal.

Members suggested both sides wanted to keep the appearance of potential for progress, even though Obama rejected their plan in a phone call with Boehner on Friday.

Rep. John Fleming (R-La.) paraphrased Boehner's message to the conference as, "Every offer we've made, they've just turned us down."

He added it was a "White House talking point" that the two sides were still talking.

"What [Boehner's] really saying is, 'I'm not shutting the door on further discussions, but right now nothing is happening'," he said.

Rep. Tom Price (R-Ga.) said the White House requested that House leadership "stick with the line that talks were proceeding." "That line was continued, and then late yesterday afternoon, the president called and they declined every part of the offer," he said.

An aide to Boehner declined comment.

Price said while there was concern over Obama's negotiations with Senate Republicans, he didn't think their plan would pass the upper chamber. Sources told The Huffington Post that a bipartisan group of 10 senators, five from each party, are ironing out the details of a plan floated by Sen. Susan Collins (R-Maine). It would reportedly fund the government through March, raise the debt ceiling through January, give federal agencies flexibility to manage across-the-board cuts caused by sequestration, and delay Obamacare's medical device tax by two years.

"I think the timing on that is challenging," Price said. "We want to get back to a regular order process where we're doing appropriations bills and putting Congress' stamp of priorities on the spending of this government."

"We hope that our Senate Republican colleagues stand with us united to force the president to have a conversation," he added.

Conservative House members outright rejected the Collins' plan and were skeptical it would pass the Senate, let alone the House.

"The idea that Susan Collins can dictate what happens in the Senate is kind of silly," Rep. Tim Huelskamp (R-Kansas) said. "They can negotiate all day long, but obviously at the end of the day it has to pass the House."

Fleming said the plan was dead on arrival in the House. "They're not going to get that, because we're not going to support it," he said.

UPDATE: 2:05 p.m. -- Senate Democratic leadership rejected the Collins plan Saturday afternoon. A senior Democratic aide said the proposal is pretty unpopular among most Democrats, for two reasons: It locks in the current level of sequestration, minus another $20 billion in 2014, and it makes changes to Obamacare.

"Why would Dems ever support that?" asked the aide. "It's crazy that it got this far."

Negotiations are now in the hands of Senate leaders Harry Reid (D-Nev.) and Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.). Reid spokesman Adam Jentleson said McConnell requested a meeting with Reid, and that the two sat down with Sens. Chuck Schumer (D-N.Y.) and Lamar Alexander (R-Tenn) in Reid's office Saturday morning to hash out a way forward.

The contours of a deal were far from apparent, but Jentleson added both the White House and House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi's (D-Calif.) office were "fully engaged" as talks progressed.

by Anonymousreply 3010/13/2013

It's shocking how much more effective Nancy Pelosi was as Speaker than Boehner.

by Anonymousreply 110/12/2013

Hang tough, Mr. President.

You've got 'em on the run now.

by Anonymousreply 210/12/2013

I'm so happy he's sticking it to them.

by Anonymousreply 310/12/2013

Ah, I love it that the Senate repugs are working on a deal, leaving Cantor & Boehner standing around holding their dicks!

by Anonymousreply 410/12/2013

Do we actually think Republicans are just going to give up? This would be a first.

by Anonymousreply 510/12/2013

I agree with R3.

by Anonymousreply 610/12/2013

The president, Harry Reid and Pelosi are being so badass these days. I'm loving it.

by Anonymousreply 710/12/2013

Press Sec Jay Carney too.

by Anonymousreply 810/12/2013

I'm getting some popcorn for the rest of the show.

by Anonymousreply 910/12/2013

This is awesome. This pattern has to end and I really think Obama has had it with these assholes. The fucking Medical Device tax is necessary or something like it in order for the ACA to be deficit neutral or even reduce the deficit. The fucking deficit is reducing as our economy is improving too. nobody ever mentions that. I guess the repubs don't care about that as they are fucking with the economy as we speak.

by Anonymousreply 1010/12/2013

Yup those great poll numbers got them rethinking this nonsense.

by Anonymousreply 1110/12/2013

I love Second Term Obama.

He should go Barack Corleone on those shit-stains every day.

by Anonymousreply 1210/12/2013

[italic]Senator Harry Reid ‏@SenatorReid 20m

Obamacare is no longer Republicans' #1 issue. Their #1 issue is to divert attention from the fools they’ve made of themselves on Obamacare.[/italic]

by Anonymousreply 1310/12/2013

Democrats have ALREADY compromised by using Paul Ryan's budget numbers in the CR. That's a BFD. They don't need to compromise on anything else.

by Anonymousreply 1410/12/2013

Harry Reid is an ex-Marine and former boxer.

by Anonymousreply 1510/12/2013

This is what happens when you allow your government to be run according to the whims of a few crackpot billionaires.

by Anonymousreply 1610/12/2013

Oops, wrong link, damn it!

by Anonymousreply 1710/12/2013

The tea party jihadists are America's REAL home-grown terrorists. The hideous scenario looming over all of us as this nightmare ticks on, is a blatant terror tactic to bring down the presidency and bring down the country. We are ALL being held hostage. It's a form of treason. And their emissaries, the Republicans, should be tried for treason. They should be found guilty of promoting and commiting treason, and they should be sentenced, accordingly.

by Anonymousreply 1810/12/2013

Did Reid really say that?

by Anonymousreply 1910/12/2013

They said on MSNBC that Ted Cruz yelled at the president during a meeting at the WH yesterday.

by Anonymousreply 2010/12/2013

He also got slapped back down by the president too though.

by Anonymousreply 2110/12/2013

Link on Cruz yelling at the president?

by Anonymousreply 2210/12/2013

I think it's great that they are holding the line as well. BUT - you know what that means, right? We're more than likely going to blow past the 10/17 default date without any sort of resolution.

Not saying Democrats should cave. To do so would permanently upend the whole order of democratic process. But dear lord is it going to be a rough ride.

by Anonymousreply 2310/12/2013

LOL Obama care is catastrophic

by Anonymousreply 2410/12/2013

Why do you say that, r24?

What has Fox told you to parrot back?

by Anonymousreply 2510/12/2013

R24, in contrast, is just a sad little troll.

by Anonymousreply 2610/12/2013

R24 is an insurance company executive who is pissed he can only steal 20% of his customers' premiums.

by Anonymousreply 2710/12/2013

I caught that, too, R20. Have you seen anything else on it?

by Anonymousreply 2810/12/2013

Cruz is an embarrassment.

by Anonymousreply 2910/13/2013

Cruz and Palin should do something worthwhile with their lives and do a porn movie or video together.

by Anonymousreply 3010/13/2013
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