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Breaking Bad episode 16--"Felina"

The end is near.

by Anonymousreply 4809/30/2013

I almost don't want to watch this because it will be the last episode and I don't want the show to end

by Anonymousreply 109/29/2013

Do you have a sense of doom? I do.

by Anonymousreply 209/29/2013

Just let Jesse live.

by Anonymousreply 309/29/2013

Someone on the previous thread wrote:

[quote]It's a TV show, for God's sake. Go outside and get some air. You need exercise.

Part of the fun of getting involved in a series is stepping away from the "It' just a TV show" frame of mind.

I have rarely been so concerned about the fate of a character as I am about Jesse. Like Mr. White, I've just got a soft spot for him.

by Anonymousreply 409/29/2013

As long as Jesse lives I'll be OK

by Anonymousreply 509/29/2013

I don't think they'll kill Jesse. And I hope they don't kill the wife. Or maybe Walt will just freeze to death in that cottage.

by Anonymousreply 609/29/2013

That's been done.

by Anonymousreply 709/29/2013

[quote]Like Mr. White, I've just got a soft spot for him.

If you think Walt has a soft spot for Jesse, you don't understand the show.

by Anonymousreply 809/29/2013

At this point, I'm just relieved that this dark, downward story will finally end. I don't know that I could take much more. That said, here are my predictions (but then I'm always wrong):

- Jesse kills Todd & the nazi bunch; somehow he ends up with at least a portion of the money & goes on to some other life (based on VG's "woodworking" hint)outside of ABQ and is presumed dead. I hope the nazis death is adequately gory

- Walt dies, but not before confronting & killing Elliot & Gretchen. They're very smug, so no one will be sorry to see them go.

- Skyler goes to prison for a couple of years but on a reduced sentence; Marie has the kids & visits her

- The whole story comes out (mostly thanks to Walt) and Hank is lauded is a hero for bringing down Heisenberg. Walt gives him the victory in death he never had in life.

- Walt makes sure a large amount of money goes to Brock

- Not sure about Lydia; I don't know that I even care that much

In summary, I think Walt will settle some scores (nazis, G&E), but will also try to do right by the family members he's screwed over.

But then what do I know?

by Anonymousreply 909/29/2013

[quote]If you think Walt has a soft spot for Jesse, you don't understand the show.

Well obviously not soft enough to let him live after a betrayal. But there have been times when Walt protects Jesse outside of Walt's own self-interest. I think there is a mutual Father-Son element to their relationship.

by Anonymousreply 1009/29/2013

I can't watch, I'm too scared.

by Anonymousreply 1109/29/2013

I'm scared too. This is ridiculous.

by Anonymousreply 1209/29/2013

Where's the dude who said we'd never see the Schwartz' again?

by Anonymousreply 1309/29/2013

I can't believe I'm actually crying, someone help me.

by Anonymousreply 1409/29/2013

I love the show but the finale was pretty predictable. Maybe that's what the creators were going for.

by Anonymousreply 1509/29/2013

I have a crush on Walt Jr. Really, I do.

by Anonymousreply 1609/29/2013

I wanna move into the Schwartz's house.

by Anonymousreply 1709/29/2013

so what happened? In a nutshell, for those who couldn't watch (with a big spoiler alert please)

by Anonymousreply 1809/29/2013

I have a crush on Walt/Byron Cranston.

by Anonymousreply 1909/29/2013

I'm fucking depressed, I need to see my analysis tomorrow.

by Anonymousreply 2009/29/2013

Has it finished on the East Coast yet?

by Anonymousreply 2109/29/2013

****SPOILERS BELOW****

Walt gets one last look at Skyler, Holly, and Flynn then he kills Lydia and all of the Nazis before dying in the meth lab where Jessie was held prisoner after taking a bullet from his own homemade tommy gun device thing.

Walt saved Jessie, who drives off into the night.

by Anonymousreply 2209/29/2013

R22, you should have waited until the credits were over before declaring Jesse safe.

by Anonymousreply 2309/29/2013

Also, Jesse killed Todd, and we got a great scene with Gretchen and Elliot being terrified into giving Walt's money to his family in a few months.

The scene with Skyler was perfect. Killing Lydia was perfect. Dealing with the nazis and Todd, perfect.

I was the tiniest bit dissapointed with the final moments between Jesse and him and his death. But, c'est la vie. It was all a little too wrapped up, but that's how Gilligan plots and I'm okay with that.

by Anonymousreply 2409/29/2013

So, there will not be a sequel with featuring Walt?

by Anonymousreply 2509/29/2013

I'm so glad the bastard is dead.

by Anonymousreply 2609/30/2013

[quote]If you think Walt has a soft spot for Jesse, you don't understand the show.

Did you watch the interview with Vince Gilligan on Talking Bad? You know, the one in which he and Aaron Paul discuss how Walt's soft spot for Jesse was what motivated him to save Jesse? Did you burn with shame?

by Anonymousreply 2709/30/2013

The Nazi massacre was a bit too easy.

by Anonymousreply 2809/30/2013

[quote]you should have waited until the credits were over before declaring Jesse safe.

Wait...what?

I didn't sit through the credits.

by Anonymousreply 2909/30/2013

MORE SPOILERS for Felina/Finale below:

I agree with R24 re how Gilligan finished the series.

It seemed appropriate that Jesse should live -- and maybe finally get the girl and kids he seemed to want so badly and that Walt should die. Walt kept saying "it's over" so it was easy to see that coming. I liked how it was Walt and Jesse right before Walt's death and that Jesse couldn't kill Walt when Walt gave him a gun and told him do. "If you want that, do it yourself" Jesse says but it's not so much cold as back to the "Rabid Dog" that Walt's become and won't be able to return to the normal man he once was.

Walt DID have "a soft spot for Jesse" R8, especially when he discovered when confronting Todd at the Nazi compound that Jesse wasn't Todd's meth cooking partner like he'd thought, but rather Todd's meth cooking slave -- shackled and beaten by these losers. This is why Walt saved Jesse.

I didn't expect Walt to blackmail Gretchen and Elliot so that they'd be forced to give Walt Jr./Flynn like 9 million dollars or whatever Walt had when he turns 18. But seeing how Jr didn't even want the much smaller amount of money Walt had tried to send him (in a package addressed to Jr.'s friend) and raved on about Walt being responsible for Uncle Hank's death, how do you think Walt Jr. will react to this money?

by Anonymousreply 3009/30/2013

[quote] I can't believe I'm actually crying, someone help me.

MARY!

by Anonymousreply 3109/30/2013

So nothing for Brock?

by Anonymousreply 3209/30/2013

Well, it wasn't like Walt was making a will, R32. Jesse was sending Andrea and Brock money. BUT that said, we don't find out what happened to Brock after his mother was shot on their doorstep, do we? Is that a loose end Gilligan forgot about after all or did I miss something?

I think that Walt feels that since Brock didn't die, what he did to him wasn't all that bad. But, of course, it was! It was!

by Anonymousreply 3309/30/2013

Are we sure that Walt even knows about Andrea's death?

It's not like he had reaason to look her up when he got back to town. He assumed Jesse was long dead, and knew that visiting Andrea would bring DEA attention on her (thereby jeapordizing (sp?) any money Jesse had given her before being taken prisoner by the Nazis).

by Anonymousreply 3409/30/2013

I hope Jesse is able to come back to the compound and recover whatever's remaining of that 80 mill!

by Anonymousreply 3509/30/2013

Great ep, they really did a fantastic job of tying up loose ends.

And death to Lydia, yay!!!

by Anonymousreply 3609/30/2013

"So nothing for Brock?"

Hopefully years of therapy after finding his mother dead on their front porch.

by Anonymousreply 3709/30/2013

Yeah, I couldn't care less about the Brock loose end at the end.

Was it just me, or was the finale MASSIVELY homoerotic?

by Anonymousreply 3809/30/2013

[quote] But seeing how Jr didn't even want the much smaller amount of money Walt had tried to send him (in a package addressed to Jr.'s friend) and raved on about Walt being responsible for Uncle Hank's death, how do you think Walt Jr. will react to this money?

WTF? Do you people even watch these tv shows? It was explained in the Schwartz living room.

[quote] Was it just me, or was the ending MASSIVELY homoerotic?

It's just you. The rest of the planet doesn't see machine gun massacre and trachea-crushing as being homoerotic.

by Anonymousreply 3909/30/2013

[quote]how do you think Walt Jr. will react to this money?

He will never know it came from his Dad.

by Anonymousreply 4009/30/2013

[quote]you should have waited until the credits were over before declaring Jesse safe.

Was there something after the credits? Like one of those Marvel Studios style bonuses or something?

by Anonymousreply 4109/30/2013

I'm going to the other thread.

by Anonymousreply 4209/30/2013

[quote]Was there something after the credits? Like one of those Marvel Studios style bonuses or something?

No, that was a joke. It went from the last scene directly to the Chris Hardwick "Talking Bad" special.

by Anonymousreply 4309/30/2013

Oh come on, R39. Walt clutching Jesse in a tight embrace, protecting him from a hail of gunfire in the climatic moment of the series?

I never saw the show as homoerotic before, but this recontextaulized the whole series for me.

by Anonymousreply 4409/30/2013

Not to mention their loving parting glance.

by Anonymousreply 4509/30/2013

Walt has always been a father figure to Jessie. Sometimes he's the good father, sometimes hes the bad father.

Maybe you have sex with your father, or would like to have sex with your father --prticulrly as as he protects you from bullets, but the rest of the world doesn't see that as sexually alluring. Not everyone sees all entertainment as a porno.

by Anonymousreply 4609/30/2013

R39 -- I'm the one who asked what I thought was a good question: Since Walt Jr. got so upset when Walt tried to give him a smaller amount of money, how will he feel on his 18th birthday when the Swartz' give him the 9 million or so of his father's money?

You say the question was answered in the Swartz' living room. In what way then? Yes, I watched the show, but even if the Swartz couple tells Jr. it's their money, that's too much for what Walt told them to tell Jr. to use it for -- his education. University is expensive, but not *that* expensive. So watching the show and discussing how what happened would likely affect a character and two different things and no need to be so arrogant, R39.

by Anonymousreply 4709/30/2013

I agree with R46 that the underlying relationship between Walt and Jesse was always father/son. Walt spent more time with Jesse than his own son. Basically, Walt drove Flynn to school and once bought him a car before Sklyer made him take it back. That's about it.

by Anonymousreply 4809/30/2013
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