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Isn't the Earth doomed?

Why should we give a shit about global warming? The damage is already done. People in other countries are never gonna go green. What's the point?

by Anonymousreply 2809/29/2013

Most countries are greener than us. Even those that aren't are trying harder than we are.

by Anonymousreply 109/28/2013

This primordial ooze is us, and we are it; a human, like all earthly life, is fated as nothing less than an ember burning out in the vast infinity of the universe.

by Anonymousreply 209/28/2013

Marvin, the Paranoid Android: "Oh, what's the use?"

by Anonymousreply 309/28/2013

Yes, yes, op. Eliminate any and all EPA restrictions on everything!

by Anonymousreply 409/28/2013

By 2113, our thousands of coal plants will be lovely buildings in pleasant suburban settings with two tubes sticking out: one releasing oxygen, the other diamonds.

by Anonymousreply 509/28/2013

going green gives people a way to feel morally superior to others

by Anonymousreply 609/29/2013

And deliberately destroying the earth gives people a way to be amorally beneath others.

by Anonymousreply 709/29/2013


by Anonymousreply 809/29/2013

The Earth isn't doomed. The Earth will be fine.

It's human civilization that is doomed.

And lots of other species.

But life will go on. It will adapt. It just won't be us if we're not careful, and if we don't start acting.

by Anonymousreply 909/29/2013

God said that the Earth is ours to RAPE and treat as poorly as we wish!

by Anonymousreply 1009/29/2013

The Green nonsense is just a marketing ploy. Your not using plastic or paper bags isn't going to do jack, where there are tons of countries still using them. People really need to get over it and move along. Global warming is happening and will continue to happen regardless of your recycling. The majority of the world will keep polluting.

by Anonymousreply 1109/29/2013

I say: let us go to hell. I only feel sorry for the plants and animals. The human race is nothing but a cancerous pest with delusions of grandeur.

by Anonymousreply 1209/29/2013

Fuck it, who has the launch codes?? Let's do this!!

by Anonymousreply 1309/29/2013

OP, we haven't reached the tipping point yet, but are rapidly approaching that doomsday scenario wherein the earth's climate and human life will be incompatible. It's not too late; we can do something about it. And here's the thing: what most rational people see and real scientists say is that if we slowed our carbon use and started to work towards a solution, we could achieve an equilibrium relatively quickly and then begin the process of repairing the damage we've done. And it really wouldn't be that painful.

For example, off the top, no Keystone XL (or what I propose calling the Obama Keystone pipeline if he actually approves it). Second, begin immediately phasing out using coal to generate electricity, note I said phase it out; it's impossible to completely stop using coal overnight. But we must stop burning the dirtiest of fuels en masse. We can convert coal plants to a stop-gap fuel (like natural gas, but that has consequences, too) while we work on renewable sources.

We already know how to generate enough electricity to provide everyone in America with energy. Solar power alone could do it; of course, the problem is that the solar plants will have to be built in the Southwest, and the problem is that we don't know how - yet - to transmit electricity over long distances efficiently. For the uninitiated, electricity efficacy decreases over distance travelled. Think of how your toaster cord gets hot when you make toast. We can insulate such cords, but the energy that escapes and heats the wires is still lost. Now, multiply that by the hundreds of thousands of miles of wires, and I think you can see my point. And yes, there is a way to transmit electricity with no loss, but it requires freezing the wires to something like minus 260 degrees - possible, but very very expensive.

If we had real leadership, we could jump start research into renewables via a national program much like what we undertook in the 1960s going to the moon. Surely, the US could lead the world in research on this matter, developing the technology, and making energy companies as big profits as they have seen on carbon. But as we've seen and empirically know is that energy companies will not risk major investment without guaranteed results. And there are no guarantees when it comes to R & D. This is why we need government to step in and do the heavy lifting. But the consequence would be not only that we solve these problems, but develop a major new industry right here at home that could and would ensure US dominance for another century. And, of course there would be competition -- competition that we're presently losing -- as other countries like China and India see the handwriting on the wall and are devoting enormous resources to solving. Even the Iranians see that carbon fuels aren't forever, and are using renewables as an excuse to develop nuclear technology.

The answer is complex, expensive, difficult and time consuming, but the rewards are so great that it is the height of human arrogance and stupidity that we can't solve this problem. And someone will. The question really, then, is who will be on top when the breakthroughs occur, and who will be end users. What country will enjoy the rewards, and which countries will pay for the privilege?

by Anonymousreply 1409/29/2013

R11 is small-minded, short-sighted, and retarded all at the same time.

by Anonymousreply 1509/29/2013

It's interesting that conservatives control all the media, and yet they are able to get away with calling all contrary views "propaganda for profit." It's a curious inversion.

by Anonymousreply 1609/29/2013

Earth will survive, it's the humans that are fucked

by Anonymousreply 1709/29/2013

Fracking seems to be just as bad or worse than “old” and controversial energy sources like nuke power. It supposedly is to blame for a recent earthquake in the US.

by Anonymousreply 1809/29/2013

OP, remember the hole in the ozone layer? It was set to kill us all by allowing dangerous levels of ultraviolet radiation to reach the earth.

So the world got together and banned the use of chlorofluorocarbons and now, over time, the hole in the ozone layer has closed up.

by Anonymousreply 1909/29/2013

R19: We eliminated smallpox so we can eliminate cancer.

by Anonymousreply 2009/29/2013

R16, it's a thing you begin to notice about conservatives and republicans: Pathological Projection.

Once you notice it, you can't STOP noticing it, because they do it all the time. Listen to them carefully: EVERY time they accuse someone else of doing something, it's something they themselves are actually doing. If they accuse someone of being something, it's actually true of themselves.

It's almost scary... like a tidal wave of mental illness.

by Anonymousreply 2109/29/2013

Yes the earth is doomed. We won't be able to stop the pollution fast enough and for countries like India and China you will n ever stop it.

The earth and it's life becomes less diverse every year. Humans, fucking God damn humans, the scourge of the earth are fucking like monkeys. No way to stop these overpopulated countries from screwing and reproducing.

by Anonymousreply 2209/29/2013

[quote]People in other countries are never gonna go green.

Let me guess,'re an American...the biggest group of polluters on the planet...the people who use more fossil fuel per capita than any people on the planet...the people whose government is run by and for big oil, the people in love with fracking.

And I'll bet you do not understand why the rest of the planet hates you?

by Anonymousreply 2309/29/2013

If everyone had a gun, we could defeat global warming.

by Anonymousreply 2409/29/2013

R24 We're used to it. We don't care. Okay?

by Anonymousreply 2509/29/2013

The Earth IS doomed, OP.

The sun will burn it to a crisp someday.

And every person and animal and thing that people think is so very important will be gone without a trace of it ever having existed at all.

by Anonymousreply 2609/29/2013

[quote]Humans, fucking God damn humans, the scourge of the earth are fucking like monkeys. No way to stop these overpopulated countries from screwing and reproducing.

Exactly. Such as Mormons, The Duggars, and many Catholics.

by Anonymousreply 2709/29/2013
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