Why should we give a shit about global warming? The damage is already done. People in other countries are never gonna go green. What's the point?
Isn't the Earth doomed?
|by Anonymous||reply 28||09/29/2013|
Most countries are greener than us. Even those that aren't are trying harder than we are.
|by Anonymous||reply 1||09/29/2013|
This primordial ooze is us, and we are it; a human, like all earthly life, is fated as nothing less than an ember burning out in the vast infinity of the universe.
|by Anonymous||reply 2||09/29/2013|
Marvin, the Paranoid Android: "Oh, what's the use?"
|by Anonymous||reply 3||09/29/2013|
Yes, yes, op. Eliminate any and all EPA restrictions on everything!
|by Anonymous||reply 4||09/29/2013|
By 2113, our thousands of coal plants will be lovely buildings in pleasant suburban settings with two tubes sticking out: one releasing oxygen, the other diamonds.
|by Anonymous||reply 5||09/29/2013|
going green gives people a way to feel morally superior to others
|by Anonymous||reply 6||09/29/2013|
And deliberately destroying the earth gives people a way to be amorally beneath others.
|by Anonymous||reply 7||09/29/2013|
|by Anonymous||reply 8||09/29/2013|
The Earth isn't doomed. The Earth will be fine.
It's human civilization that is doomed.
And lots of other species.
But life will go on. It will adapt. It just won't be us if we're not careful, and if we don't start acting.
|by Anonymous||reply 9||09/29/2013|
God said that the Earth is ours to RAPE and treat as poorly as we wish!
|by Anonymous||reply 10||09/29/2013|
The Green nonsense is just a marketing ploy. Your not using plastic or paper bags isn't going to do jack, where there are tons of countries still using them. People really need to get over it and move along. Global warming is happening and will continue to happen regardless of your recycling. The majority of the world will keep polluting.
|by Anonymous||reply 11||09/29/2013|
I say: let us go to hell. I only feel sorry for the plants and animals. The human race is nothing but a cancerous pest with delusions of grandeur.
|by Anonymous||reply 12||09/29/2013|
Fuck it, who has the launch codes?? Let's do this!!
|by Anonymous||reply 13||09/29/2013|
OP, we haven't reached the tipping point yet, but are rapidly approaching that doomsday scenario wherein the earth's climate and human life will be incompatible. It's not too late; we can do something about it. And here's the thing: what most rational people see and real scientists say is that if we slowed our carbon use and started to work towards a solution, we could achieve an equilibrium relatively quickly and then begin the process of repairing the damage we've done. And it really wouldn't be that painful.
For example, off the top, no Keystone XL (or what I propose calling the Obama Keystone pipeline if he actually approves it). Second, begin immediately phasing out using coal to generate electricity, note I said phase it out; it's impossible to completely stop using coal overnight. But we must stop burning the dirtiest of fuels en masse. We can convert coal plants to a stop-gap fuel (like natural gas, but that has consequences, too) while we work on renewable sources.
We already know how to generate enough electricity to provide everyone in America with energy. Solar power alone could do it; of course, the problem is that the solar plants will have to be built in the Southwest, and the problem is that we don't know how - yet - to transmit electricity over long distances efficiently. For the uninitiated, electricity efficacy decreases over distance travelled. Think of how your toaster cord gets hot when you make toast. We can insulate such cords, but the energy that escapes and heats the wires is still lost. Now, multiply that by the hundreds of thousands of miles of wires, and I think you can see my point. And yes, there is a way to transmit electricity with no loss, but it requires freezing the wires to something like minus 260 degrees - possible, but very very expensive.
If we had real leadership, we could jump start research into renewables via a national program much like what we undertook in the 1960s going to the moon. Surely, the US could lead the world in research on this matter, developing the technology, and making energy companies as big profits as they have seen on carbon. But as we've seen and empirically know is that energy companies will not risk major investment without guaranteed results. And there are no guarantees when it comes to R & D. This is why we need government to step in and do the heavy lifting. But the consequence would be not only that we solve these problems, but develop a major new industry right here at home that could and would ensure US dominance for another century. And, of course there would be competition -- competition that we're presently losing -- as other countries like China and India see the handwriting on the wall and are devoting enormous resources to solving. Even the Iranians see that carbon fuels aren't forever, and are using renewables as an excuse to develop nuclear technology.
The answer is complex, expensive, difficult and time consuming, but the rewards are so great that it is the height of human arrogance and stupidity that we can't solve this problem. And someone will. The question really, then, is who will be on top when the breakthroughs occur, and who will be end users. What country will enjoy the rewards, and which countries will pay for the privilege?
|by Anonymous||reply 14||09/29/2013|
R11 is small-minded, short-sighted, and retarded all at the same time.
|by Anonymous||reply 15||09/29/2013|
It's interesting that conservatives control all the media, and yet they are able to get away with calling all contrary views "propaganda for profit." It's a curious inversion.
|by Anonymous||reply 16||09/29/2013|
Earth will survive, it's the humans that are fucked
|by Anonymous||reply 17||09/29/2013|
Fracking seems to be just as bad or worse than “old” and controversial energy sources like nuke power. It supposedly is to blame for a recent earthquake in the US.
|by Anonymous||reply 18||09/29/2013|
OP, remember the hole in the ozone layer? It was set to kill us all by allowing dangerous levels of ultraviolet radiation to reach the earth.
So the world got together and banned the use of chlorofluorocarbons and now, over time, the hole in the ozone layer has closed up.
|by Anonymous||reply 19||09/29/2013|
R19: We eliminated smallpox so we can eliminate cancer.
|by Anonymous||reply 20||09/29/2013|
R16, it's a thing you begin to notice about conservatives and republicans: Pathological Projection.
Once you notice it, you can't STOP noticing it, because they do it all the time. Listen to them carefully: EVERY time they accuse someone else of doing something, it's something they themselves are actually doing. If they accuse someone of being something, it's actually true of themselves.
It's almost scary... like a tidal wave of mental illness.
|by Anonymous||reply 21||09/29/2013|
Yes the earth is doomed. We won't be able to stop the pollution fast enough and for countries like India and China you will n ever stop it.
The earth and it's life becomes less diverse every year. Humans, fucking God damn humans, the scourge of the earth are fucking like monkeys. No way to stop these overpopulated countries from screwing and reproducing.
|by Anonymous||reply 22||09/29/2013|
[quote]People in other countries are never gonna go green.
Let me guess, OP...you're an American...the biggest group of polluters on the planet...the people who use more fossil fuel per capita than any people on the planet...the people whose government is run by and for big oil, the people in love with fracking.
And I'll bet you do not understand why the rest of the planet hates you?
|by Anonymous||reply 23||09/29/2013|
If everyone had a gun, we could defeat global warming.
|by Anonymous||reply 24||09/29/2013|
R24 We're used to it. We don't care. Okay?
|by Anonymous||reply 25||09/29/2013|
The Earth IS doomed, OP.
The sun will burn it to a crisp someday.
And every person and animal and thing that people think is so very important will be gone without a trace of it ever having existed at all.
|by Anonymous||reply 26||09/29/2013|
[quote]Humans, fucking God damn humans, the scourge of the earth are fucking like monkeys. No way to stop these overpopulated countries from screwing and reproducing.
Exactly. Such as Mormons, The Duggars, and many Catholics.
|by Anonymous||reply 27||09/29/2013|