OK..there's a pogrom!...you have to leave the USA immediately! and settle somewhere else...
Where would you go?
Just one choice and you have to decide immediately! Right now! (and maybe add why you've picked it).
London...don't even like it that much, but I'm used to big cities and they speak English and I could probably feel reasonably at home there.
|by Anonymous||reply 125||10/01/2013|
I'm too old. I'm ready for the gas chamber.
|by Anonymous||reply 1||09/28/2013|
Victoria, British Columbia, Canada
|by Anonymous||reply 2||09/28/2013|
Edinburgh. Unbelievably beautiful, cultured, already know people there.
|by Anonymous||reply 3||09/28/2013|
Nigeria. Beautiful beaches and very gay friendly.
|by Anonymous||reply 5||09/28/2013|
Belize. They speak English, and it never snows, and they have universal health care.
|by Anonymous||reply 6||09/28/2013|
London, Edinburgh, or Stockholm
|by Anonymous||reply 7||09/28/2013|
I'd probably go back to Berlin, spent several years there so it's familiar. 2nd choice Melbourne, AU
|by Anonymous||reply 9||09/28/2013|
London, Birmingham or Edinburgh.
|by Anonymous||reply 10||09/28/2013|
Bhutan = Gross National Happiness (unless you're of Nepalese descent)
|by Anonymous||reply 11||09/28/2013|
UK, Australia, New Zealand. Europe, generally.
|by Anonymous||reply 13||09/28/2013|
France, I like to eat well and enjoy life!
|by Anonymous||reply 14||09/28/2013|
I would like to know HOW you get to live in one of these countries? What are the best, easiest, quickest (legal) strategies?
|by Anonymous||reply 15||09/28/2013|
Get married to someone from the country is quickest and easiest.
|by Anonymous||reply 17||09/28/2013|
Is there a swap web site for that? Like, I want euro citizenship, you want u.s. citizenship, lets get married!
|by Anonymous||reply 19||09/28/2013|
R15 you can apply for naturalization after 5 years living in the UK.
|by Anonymous||reply 20||09/28/2013|
Ireland. I've already got the passport. And I think I could live pretty well over there.
|by Anonymous||reply 21||09/28/2013|
I knew an admittedly handsome fellow who did a semester abroad in the UK. By the time he was to leave he had several fag hags doting on him and dying for him to marry them so that he could stay and be their friend still. I'm sure they were hoping for more, including pumping out a couple of his rug rats. Alas, I am too old and portly now for such things.
|by Anonymous||reply 22||09/28/2013|
Edinburgh! (And then a respite in Sydney when the rain gets to be too much.)
|by Anonymous||reply 23||09/28/2013|
First, over the boarder to Canada... then to Ottawa or Toronto for access to their government and repatriation. Staying there... and if not then on to other points (Scandanavian country or Ireland or... )
|by Anonymous||reply 24||09/28/2013|
Craigslist, platonic relationships, R19. See posts like that all the time.
|by Anonymous||reply 25||09/28/2013|
We should all move to Canada and make it more American.
|by Anonymous||reply 26||09/28/2013|
"First, over the boarder to Canada"
Don't you think you'll piss him off as you jump over his bed?
|by Anonymous||reply 27||09/28/2013|
Dublin. Then I will take the ferry to London to work like the rest of the Micks.
|by Anonymous||reply 28||09/28/2013|
Bologna -- best food in Italy, great city.
|by Anonymous||reply 29||09/28/2013|
New Zealand. Don't laugh, but the cinematography of LOTR showed me how beautiful it is. I'd like to own a farm.
|by Anonymous||reply 31||09/28/2013|
I'm coming along with the Edinburgh contingent. We can go together! After a while we'll make new friends and probably won't like each other so much and we're taking R1...he can't stay behind all gloomy like that.
Think of the children! R1
|by Anonymous||reply 32||09/28/2013|
>>>France, I like to eat well and enjoy life!
I would have said France a few years ago...20 years ago, but I think it's bad there now... A lot of people are leaving, or is that just the rich?
|by Anonymous||reply 33||09/28/2013|
England, preferably near London.
|by Anonymous||reply 39||09/29/2013|
Some quiet, little village in the west of England. Next to Miss Marple maybe?
|by Anonymous||reply 41||09/29/2013|
Edinburgh? After you've look at the scenery, what is there to do? There's only about two good places to eat, the boys are mostly weasely, and there's that depressing "everything is shiite" attitude. Optimistic and ambitious they're not.
|by Anonymous||reply 42||09/29/2013|
I would pick Australia, as I believe they have relatively easy landed citizen entrance.
Canada would be second - they are stricter but I assume a pogrom means I might squeak in asa refugee.
I do love Toronto, though Canada is is some ways more like the US than it cares to admit in that Toronto is no more all of Canada than NYC is America, there's flyover country there too, etc.
And Germany would be 3rd. I have roots there and the BF is from there.
|by Anonymous||reply 43||09/29/2013|
My first selection would be Toronto to stay with friends. I could drive there no problem. Second city would be London. i would stay with a friend there.
|by Anonymous||reply 44||09/29/2013|
If I flash my foreskin can I bag DVF's apartment?
|by Anonymous||reply 45||09/29/2013|
[quote]First, over the boarder to Canada...
|by Anonymous||reply 46||09/29/2013|
Ireland. I can get citizenship easily, and from there, become a Euro citizen.
The idea of going to Europe to avoid a pogrom is hysterical, of course.
|by Anonymous||reply 47||09/29/2013|
[quote]Edinburgh? After you've look at the scenery, what is there to do? There's only about two good places to eat, the boys are mostly weasely, and there's that depressing "everything is shiite" attitude. Optimistic and ambitious they're not.
Well, thank you for ruining that little fantasy.
Any better suggestions?
|by Anonymous||reply 48||09/29/2013|
My mother's side of the family is Scots-Irish, r42. That drear is in my bones (though some sunlight in Sydney would be welcome every once in a while). My trip to Edinburgh felt like coming home. I found the guys hot. And guess what? Everything, in the end, IS shite.
|by Anonymous||reply 52||09/29/2013|
Well in this scenario there are lots of people trying to get away, which by itself limits our options.
What places in the world genuinely want people? Siberia and Kazakstan and Turkmenistan I suppose, Canada, Australia, and possibly Argentina and Brazil. Maybe Libya. But that's about it. Everywhere else is full up. And Canada and Australia are the only ones who would want Americans in decent numbers.
|by Anonymous||reply 53||09/29/2013|
New Zealand. North Island.
|by Anonymous||reply 54||09/29/2013|
[r27]... LOL. Thanks for the laugh, but I am taking the boarder with me over the border
|by Anonymous||reply 56||09/29/2013|
So basically everyone here would decamp to a majority white, western country.
|by Anonymous||reply 57||09/29/2013|
Edinburgh, me too (same as R3). Friendlier and more human-scaled than London.
|by Anonymous||reply 63||09/29/2013|
Well South Africa would be beautiful but they are suffering a population explosion.
|by Anonymous||reply 64||09/29/2013|
Greenland. Once the ice melts, there will be lots of vacant land for development.
|by Anonymous||reply 65||09/29/2013|
Don't go to any malls, r5.
Areas: Cornwall; Brittany; Alsace; Cotswolds.
|by Anonymous||reply 66||09/29/2013|
Antarctica will probably be the most beautiful of all continents once that pesky ice has gone and a pole shift has placed the north pole in Gambia.
|by Anonymous||reply 67||09/29/2013|
R57, a majority white western country is going to be the most gay friendly, with exceptions.
You are expecting people to pick Gambia, Somalia or Iran?
|by Anonymous||reply 68||09/29/2013|
R42 you mean except for the biggest arts festival in the world, the countless comedy clubs, the museums, the theaters, the open air concerts, the huge New Years party, the nightclubs, the quirky restaurants, the fantastic pubs with open fires, the catacombs under the city, walking on the beach, climbing the volcano right in the middle of the city (not the one the castle is on, the other one)... I'm guessing you've never been.
|by Anonymous||reply 70||09/29/2013|
I like it there. Speak decent enough Italian.
|by Anonymous||reply 71||09/29/2013|
Brighton. Only an hour away from London but with better weather.
|by Anonymous||reply 73||09/29/2013|
The Cotswolds, naturally.
|by Anonymous||reply 75||09/29/2013|
A cozy little cottage in the Cotswolds where I could cradle a big cup of tea and not have to worry about pogroms.
|by Anonymous||reply 78||09/30/2013|
Photo of R78 and his BF in their new home in the Cotswolds @ link
|by Anonymous||reply 79||09/30/2013|
Sorry about that >>> R78 @ link
|by Anonymous||reply 80||09/30/2013|
Moving to Auckland would definitely be like throwing away the key and never coming back.
Sounds like some people can't wait to go.
|by Anonymous||reply 81||09/30/2013|
Dublin Ireland very easy to get around, friendly people who speak English, and the countryside is beutiful .
|by Anonymous||reply 82||09/30/2013|
I would leave tonight if I could. But, alas, I can't.
|by Anonymous||reply 83||09/30/2013|
There's no there there.
It's a azure nihilism.
As a friend said: " You need to visit it to realise you didn't need to visit it."
Actually, there is: South Auckland is just one big aglomeration of dumb, poor and massively overweight maoris and pacific islanders living in mutual contempt, who don't get a write-up in puffy travel articles such as at the link.
Read "Going As Far As I Can" : a fabulous pisstake of NZ that outraged the thin-skinned media there.
|by Anonymous||reply 84||09/30/2013|
I'd head back to the Netherlands.
|by Anonymous||reply 85||09/30/2013|
r84 As a New Zealander I would have to agree with your summation. Auckland is best avoided unless you live on the beautiful east coast. It is essentially a bunch of dumpy suburbs linked by a motorway. However, there is still a lot of beauty to be found not far from the city itself. The more I travel, the more I enjoy going back to NZ. Yes, the people can be provincial and smallminded...but my friends seem to be incredibly happy compared to the rest of the world.
|by Anonymous||reply 87||10/01/2013|
sydney. nice weather and hot gays.
|by Anonymous||reply 88||10/01/2013|
Agree that Auckland is 50 years in the past but the rest of the country is worth the journey. Great beaches, skiing is cheap and easy to get to and the people are easy going and tolerant.
|by Anonymous||reply 89||10/01/2013|
NZ - Free healthcare, no crazy fucks with guns to shoot at me in school or the mall and a Gay Marriage bill that passed without any fuss.
|by Anonymous||reply 90||10/01/2013|
What if you're not from the USA?
|by Anonymous||reply 91||10/01/2013|
Then you help with the invasion....
|by Anonymous||reply 92||10/01/2013|
Aitutaki in the Cook Islands ...where I could get away from that kind of human bullshit once and for all.
|by Anonymous||reply 93||10/01/2013|
Is the pogram complimentary or do you have to pay for it?
|by Anonymous||reply 94||10/01/2013|
Austria, where I could hide my daughter in my basement for 30 years and fuck her.
|by Anonymous||reply 95||10/01/2013|
I like the Idea of Brighton or Sydney if I need to make a living.
Malta or PEI if I do not.
|by Anonymous||reply 96||10/01/2013|
When I first read this, without my glasses on and just out of bed, I thought it said progrum (like my crazy aunt used to say for her soap operas) instead of pogrom and was trying to figure out which would could possibly make me move out of the country.
|by Anonymous||reply 97||10/01/2013|
All my life until now I thought the word was progrom.
|by Anonymous||reply 98||10/01/2013|
Reykjavík or one of its suburbs
|by Anonymous||reply 99||10/01/2013|
The national character of New Zealand is passive aggressive due to an inferiority complex. And they're happy, but they're dumb happy. If you're smart you can be the loneliest person in the room. Have a drink. Have a dozen.
Yeah it's pretty. In parts. But from a fiord it's a solid drive of 3 hours to arrive somewhere provincial. From a fiord in Norway you can be somewhere cosmopolitan fast for the same effort.
|by Anonymous||reply 100||10/01/2013|
Speaking of the Nordic countries: it's becoming slowly more progressive, but the Faroe Islands (one of the constituent countries of the Kingdom of Denmark, along with metropolitan Denmark itself and Greenland) has a surprisingly high percentage of fundie Christians among its tiny population. Lots of Plymouth Brethren. The equal marriage laws in Denmark don't apply to the Faroes or Greenland, since the latter have devolved legislatures. So although I'd ideally move to the Faroes for the remoteness and natural beauty, I'm not 100% sure of its gay-friendliness.
|by Anonymous||reply 101||10/01/2013|
[quote] [Of New Zealand] And they're happy, but they're dumb happy. If you're smart you can be the loneliest person in the room. Have a drink. Have a dozen.
I think R100's fine description applies equally well to Australia.
|by Anonymous||reply 103||10/01/2013|
[quote]So basically everyone here would decamp to a majority white, western country.
Everyone here would decamp to a country where rights and equality are respected.
|by Anonymous||reply 106||10/01/2013|
R105, I agree that gay people and most sane people would want to go to countries where, as r106 points out, rights and equality are respected.
But, don't take the pogrom thing too seriously, it's not really a reality, and you sound like one of those government haters who seem to think that any form of taxation or gun control is stripping them of their rights and persecuting them.
|by Anonymous||reply 108||10/01/2013|
Is there an English-speaking pro-gay nation that has universal health care and no cold weather? If there is such a place, that's where I'd go.
|by Anonymous||reply 109||10/01/2013|
[quote]Is there an English-speaking pro-gay nation that has universal health care and no cold weather?
Does it have to be English-speaking? Would "English widely and fluently spoken" count?
|by Anonymous||reply 111||10/01/2013|
I said that's how you sound, r110. Nothing to do with which country you'd choose and I didn't claim you were a teabagger, but you do come across as somewhat rabid.
In any case, I thought you preferred Ireland to the UK. Or Switzerland (although the von Trapps really went to Italy).
|by Anonymous||reply 113||10/01/2013|
[quote]Is there an English-speaking pro-gay nation that has universal health care and no cold weather?
New Zealand (North Island only...cold in Dunedin)
South Africa (constitutionally pro-gay but not culturally)
Hong Kong (English speaking enough, more pro-gay than PRC)
Israel (English widely spoken, most pro-gay in Tel Aviv)
Malta (English a second language)
Cyprus (English widely spoken)
|by Anonymous||reply 114||10/01/2013|
I love the people who have chosen Brighton.
I wonder if they've ever even been there.
They probably think:- gay, English speaking = least hassle... and they're probably right.
What would one do in Brighton, open a little bistro or a nick nack shop?
|by Anonymous||reply 115||10/01/2013|
Have you ever met a Swede that doesn't speak English? Svenska!
|by Anonymous||reply 117||10/01/2013|
God damn you people that are able to repatriate to Ireland. Grr, so jealous.
|by Anonymous||reply 118||10/01/2013|
[quote] God damn you people that are able to repatriate to Ireland. Grr, so jealous.
Soon, R118, soon. Papers in the works.
|by Anonymous||reply 120||10/01/2013|
I've always had a romantic notion about the Aran Islands off the coast of Ireland. I'd like to live somewhere sort of rugged and desolate near the sea.
|by Anonymous||reply 121||10/01/2013|
Marry me, R120? Take me with you?
|by Anonymous||reply 122||10/01/2013|
God I would love the Faroe Islands
|by Anonymous||reply 123||10/01/2013|
Ireland. Luckily my father obtained dual Irish and American citizenship for me before he passed away. I've never used it, but have considered it many times.
|by Anonymous||reply 124||10/01/2013|