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Bill Maher....California is leading by example...

Classic rant...California's image as a socialist fagtopia

by Anonymousreply 3009/30/2013

Bullshit.

by Anonymousreply 109/28/2013

Sack of shit

by Anonymousreply 209/28/2013

OP you linked to Umberto D - Final sequence (film), not Bill Maher

by Anonymousreply 309/28/2013

so sorry

by Anonymousreply 409/28/2013

Why are people fleeing in droves then?

by Anonymousreply 509/28/2013

We will see how you do when you run out of water.

by Anonymousreply 609/28/2013

I love Real Time with Bill, but why did they only film the one episode and then constantly repeat it?

by Anonymousreply 709/28/2013

[quote] Why are people fleeing in droves then?

Only the FReeper shitstains are fleeing.

Good riddance.

by Anonymousreply 809/28/2013

Thanks R4.

That's a great rant.

by Anonymousreply 909/28/2013

California has shown us the way in at least one respect: If you want to solve your budget issues, fire all the Republicans. Kick them out. They suck. THEY are the problem they're bitching about.

by Anonymousreply 1009/28/2013

Jerry Brown's doing a pretty good job. If he's willing to run for a second term, he'll probably be re-elected.

by Anonymousreply 1109/28/2013

[quote] California has shown us the way in at least one respect: If you want to solve your budget issues, fire all the Republicans. Kick them out. They suck. THEY are the problem they're bitching about.

Give it a rest.

This country would be in even worse shape if we followed the lead of California.

It's not the Republicans causing you problems it's your idiotic ballot initiative process.

Imagine the crap that could pass in this country based on extremely well funded initiatives that only need a majority vote nation wide.

If you don't fix that, there is a good chance you will take a giant step backwards in five to ten years.

by Anonymousreply 1209/28/2013

R12, hon? YOU give it a rest.

Yes, it IS the Republicans causing all the problems.

Yes, the idiotic ballot initiative process sucks, nobody said California is perfect, but seriously... Republicans ARE the major problem in this country, at all levels of government: local, state, and federal.

EVERYONE in this country would be a hell of a lot better off if we kicked all Republican politicians to the curb.

by Anonymousreply 1309/28/2013

R13 - Are you just going to re-write history?

Look at the exit polling on Prop 8.

Obama wins the state and Prop 8 passes.

Hard to argue that is a result of the Republicans.

You're government can be co-opted by any well funded ballot initiative - regardless of party affiliation.

That's the problem.

by Anonymousreply 1409/28/2013

[quote]Hard to argue that is a result of the Republicans.

No it's not. It's easy. They fought hard for Prop8, dumped MILLIONS into the "Yes On 8" campaign, and spent millions misleading and scaring the shit out of people.

Stop being an idiot.

If you can't see Republicans are the root of nearly all this nation's problems, then you're a willfully blind tool.

by Anonymousreply 1509/28/2013

Don't post this misogynistic, homophobic asshat, OP!

by Anonymousreply 1609/28/2013

R12,

You may be the worst case I've ever read, here @ Datalounge.com, from someone's so-called understanding and explaining of government.

by Anonymousreply 1709/29/2013

And it's well known the advertising and wording of Prop 8 was so convoluted that people didn't know if they were voting for or against gay marriage. People dmitted they ended up voting against when it wasn't their intent. Thanks to Republicans.

by Anonymousreply 1809/29/2013

The ballot initiative process IS a major problem though. It makes it too easy for populists to hijack government. And money can do too much damage with those proposition. There is a whole industry around running propositions now. It's terrible.

On the bright side though: After revamping primaries, parties have now fewer reasons to appeal to their respective radical wings and more reasons to appeal to the center. That should help in Sacramento in the long run.

by Anonymousreply 1909/29/2013

Bill Maher is a complete pig! I can't stand him! I'm an 8 th generation Californian ,and California has never ever been in such horrible state as it is today. Bill Majher moved to California from another state so he doesn't know shit about how California once was! It's people like Bill Maher who moved to California who ruined California thinking it was anything goes out her when it wasn't. California used to be a super place to live but now it's ruined! There are a lot and I DO MEAN A LOT OF PROBLEMS in California. We are financially heading for a breakdown by a governor who is in sane. Jerry Brown is a complete lunatic who is ruining the state like he did when he was governor before.

I don't know what the hell people are talking about Republicans out here in California when almost every politician is Democrat.The illegal problem is so bad and the politicians out here embrace them with open arms.There are a lot of people in California who get killed in auto accidents as a result of illegal drivers and that is just the tip of the iceberg. The politicians don't care what the average people have to deal with because they live in secluded communities that have high security and are totally obscure from the real world.

Anyone who claims that California is Utopia is either a complete idiot, mentality ill, or they are gullible to believe propaganda by the media or what has been told to them by word of mouth. As a person who is an 8 generation Californian, it hurts immensely to see this state start to collapse because it truly is a super, super unique place to live. Those of you who are not 8 th generation Californians but who were born and raised here, or who have roots that have been here since their grand parents came out here or great grand parents came out here to this state, etc. It hurts us together because we know the difference.We know what life once was in California by growing up here and what our relatives have witnessed.

California, geographically is very beautiful. We have everything out here from the country to the ocean, mountains, the breathtakingly beautiful Redwood Trees that many are as tall as sky scrapers,desert, farm life, year round warm weather in some places to more seasonal weather in other places. The list can go on and on.

NO I'm not a tea party person! No I'm not a Republican!

by Anonymousreply 2009/29/2013

Christ, R20. Chill. No one gives a flying fuck that you're an 8th generation Californian. Those of us who moved here quite a bit more recently -- because our work brought us here -- have had it up to here with assholes like you braying on about how everybody else ruined the state after their multi-great grampa arrived.

Like you wanted to slam the door shut once your family got here.

And you're absolutely dead-on wrong that Brown has run up debt and ruined the state's economy. The opposite has happened.

But what do facts matter? You're an eighth-generation Californian! No one else is a real Californian like you!

by Anonymousreply 2109/29/2013

R17 - what did I say that was wrong?

If the rest of the nation were to follow CA and implement a nationwide ballot initiative process similar to CA's - it would be a disaster.

You disagree with that?

R18 - so you point is Californians are too dumb to know what they are voting for?

[quote]If you can't see Republicans are the root of nearly all this nation's problems, then you're a willfully blind tool.

That kind of intellectual reasoning puts you right up there with the great thinkers from the WBC.

Let me point out one major flaw in your thinking. Who do you think signed the bill which deregulated the financial sector which then caused our economy to melt down? A Democrat. Bill Clinton.

You have to turn a critical eye not only towards the Republicans, but also the Democrats.

by Anonymousreply 2209/29/2013

r20 voted for Prop 8

by Anonymousreply 2309/29/2013

Bill Nye the Science Guy

by Anonymousreply 2409/29/2013

R20, please move to Arizona.

by Anonymousreply 2509/29/2013

R25, YOU move to Arizona and sit on a cactus and smile!

And you're absolutely dead-on wrong that Brown has run up debt and ruined the state's economy. The opposite has happened.

R21, your statement is so laughable and outrageous! Anyone knows California is in a deep hole in debt to the point we will never be able to get out of. We have companies leaving California because they can't afford to thrive out here because Jerry Brown is taxing their brains out along with everyone else. Ultimately, we have a trickle down effect which the ultimate victim is the Californian worker who are losing jobs! BTW, when Jerry Brown was governor back in the 70s, which my relatives and famliy friends remember very well, Jerry Brown was a huge disaster to California. Most of the people who voted for him the second time around were people who weren't living in California when he was governor years before.

R21,Those of us who moved here quite a bit more recently -- because our work brought us here -- have had it up to here with assholes like you braying on about how everybody else ruined the state after their multi-great grampa arrived.

It's is true, when people started to move into California from out of state, they had a preconceived notion that this was a state ,which was no holds barred.People came into this state formulating it how they thought it should be or how they wanted it to be like there wasn't anyone else in this state before they moved here! BTW, if you are so sick of assholes like me, then YOU leave because assholes like us aren't going anywhere! dream on!

R21,Like you wanted to slam the door shut once your family got here.

R21,But what do facts matter? You're an eighth-generation Californian! No one else is a real Californian like you!

No, that is not what I mean! If you read my post with your bifocals you normally read with, you would be aware I have stated many other Californians as well!! Tough if you don't like the truth! Those of us who were here way before you came out here know the difference. Obviously you are clueless on what was life like before you came out to California. So you are talking out of your ass and you don't know shit!

by Anonymousreply 2609/30/2013

R20 (later R26):

[quote]NO I'm not a tea party person! No I'm not a Republican!

Yes, you are!

You proved that by deliberately not noting that the majority of governorships in the state of California, over the last 30 years, were held by Republicans. Instead, you decide to focus on Jerry Brown (elected in 1974, 1978, right after the two terms of Ronald Reagan and -- more than 30 years later -- Brown won election in 2010).

You're a selective, full-of-shit asshole.

[italic]CALIFORNIA GOVERNORS: LAST 30 YEARS[/italic]

1982: George Deukmejian (R, 1983-1991)

1990: Pete Wilson (R, 1991-1999)

1998: Gray Davis (D, 1999-2003)

2003 Special: Arnold Schwarzenegger (R, 2003-2011)

2010: Jerry Brown (D, 2011-present)

Republicans have held the governorship for 23 of the last 30 years. Blame them for your California concerns.

[italic]Oh........[/italic]

But you won't do that.

You're nothing by a FREEPER TROLL, R20/R26!

by Anonymousreply 2709/30/2013

yes

by Anonymousreply 2809/30/2013

R20-26 is a hysterical twit who can't cope with the fact that no one cares his family has been in California for eight generations.

Or to put it in R20-26 terms, eight generations! Let's use more exclamation points! Because we're clueless and we think that sprinkling stupid punctuation in is like using accessories!

When facts aren't on your side, then punctuate!

by Anonymousreply 2909/30/2013
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