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Cruz announces plan B for defunding Obamacare: ‘Shut down the military’

Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX) on Sunday warned Senate Republicans that refusing to filibuster a bill that defunds President Barack Obama’s health care reform law “is a vote for Obamacare,” and he also advised House Republicans to “shut down the military” if they had to.

After a summer of insisting that Republicans should pass a budget that would defund Obamacare or shut down the government if the president refused to sign it, Cruz got exactly what he wanted last week. House Republicans rallied behind a continuing resolution that stripped funding from the Affordable Care Act, but Senate Democrats were expected to add funding back or refuse to pass the measure.

In a Sunday interview, Cruz told Fox News host Chris Wallace that Senate Republicans should stand together and refuse to vote for cloture by filibustering if Democrats added Obamacare funding to the bill.

“Any vote for cloture, any vote to allow Harry Reid to add funding to Obamacare with just a 51-vote threshold, a vote for cloture is a vote for Obamacare,” Cruz insisted. “And I think Senate Republicans are going to stand side-by-side with Speaker [John] Boehner and House Republicans, listening to the people and stopping this train wreck that is Obamacare.”

Wallace pressed Cruz on his “end game” if Senate Democrats did pass a budget with funding for the health care law and sent it back to the House.

“Because the government is going to shut down a week from Monday,” the Fox News host pointed out.

“If Harry Reid kills the bill in the Senate, the House should hold its ground, and should begin passing smaller continuing resolutions, one department at a time,” Cruz explained. “It should start with a continuing resolution focused on the military.”

“Send it over, see if Harry Reid is willing to shut down the military,” he quipped.

Watch the video below from Fox News’ Fox News Sunday, broadcast Sept. 22, 2013.

by Anonymousreply 2709/24/2013

Cruz is all but certifiably insane. And I'm afraid he'll have plenty of people agreeing with him.

by Anonymousreply 109/23/2013

Obama's popularity has plummeted after his idiotic plan to bomb yet another country in the middle east. The vast majority of Americans do not want another war and we know exactly what will happen after he attacks Syria. He played right into the repukes' hands. They are striking while the iron is hot.

by Anonymousreply 209/23/2013

Yes, please shut down the military. At least all of our military bases and personnel on foreign soil.

Our military should be HERE to defend our borders and shores, not somewhere to protect the interests of big oil and other corporations.

by Anonymousreply 309/23/2013

That's all we need is ex-military personnel flooding the already overcrowded job market.

by Anonymousreply 409/23/2013

They lose two elections but still insist and tying to MAKE the country do what they want, by any means necessary, no matter who gets hurt and has to endure hardships as a result.

The Republican party - a party that ironically acts like it is the only party with a direct line to God - is full of hateful, mean, ugly on the inside, who cares about anything else but what I want, assholes who care very little for their fellow man (unless their fellow man can supply them money and funding).

by Anonymousreply 509/23/2013

...and those less than capable Vets get priority over the more qualified. Sad state of affairs.

by Anonymousreply 609/23/2013

r2 is certifiable

by Anonymousreply 709/23/2013

Gotta love a rich white Republican with free government healthcare for life telling forty million without healthcare, fuck you. Remember "the people" don't want it!

by Anonymousreply 809/23/2013

And this is the guy they're banking on to be the GOP 2016 presidential nominee?

by Anonymousreply 909/23/2013

WERE banking on...

now they are distancing themselves from him like CRAZY!~

by Anonymousreply 1009/23/2013

Can hardly wait until they try to shut down the military. This is the type of behavior that killed Newt Gingrich's career.

And I hope they do shut it down. Keep digging that hole, Republicans.

by Anonymousreply 1109/23/2013

I guess I should be used to it by now. Once again, the Pubbies have brought us close to the brink, and they merrily roll on acting like they're standing on principle and fighting the good fight, ignoring the fact that when they do this, it brings the economy to a halt. Of course, they've gotten away with it since 2009 anyway, and there are no repercussions for them, so why not? But for those of us who make a living on discretionary items, this literally kills our sales. I noticed it about 3 weeks ago -- about when the media really started saying its looking like this time they're really going to do it -- and it has gotten worse with each passing day. And, the thing is, it's discretionary, as in "can do without" and those lost sales aren't coming back; they're gone.

It's been this way since the economy collapsed just before the 2008 election, and my company has lurched from one crisis to the next. Just when things start looking up, the Pubbies find something else to threaten the country with, and it hits us like a ton of bricks. The republicans are so hell-bent on destroying Obama, they are destroying people's lives as collateral damage along the way, and they just don't care. I guess they think if they ruin enough, we'll all just come around to thinking their way, and vote for them... in some perverse, Stockholm syndrome way.

And now, when the ACA finally is starting to kick in and it's looking like we're finally going to resolve one of the greatest problems facing the nation (and if you don't think rising healthcare costs aren't a national security issue, take a look at any emergency room, talk to any doctor or nurse, and ask how we're going to deal with the coming crisis of an aging baby boom generation), all they can do is demagogue. They have no plan to deal with healthcare beyond just letting sick people die broke.

I think what gets me is that the people who reliably vote republicans into office don't get it, as though it is magic. Things just somehow take care of themselves. Of course, they're all riding around on their hovaround scooters -- let me rephrase that -- their Medicare-paid hovaround scooter, just back from their doctors' office, also paid by Medicare, so they can complain about that socialist Muslim Kenyan in the White House, oh, and if the gubmint shuts down, well, no worries the social security check will still be in the mailbox and meals on wheels will be dropping by later with lunch, but damn that Obama and his uppity wife! She just wants us all to never eat dessert! Praise The Lord and pass the salt.

I don't know what's worse: that, or the fact that democrats can't seem to connect the dots for these people. Americans are so stupid, it baffles the mind. How did we ever get to the moon, or grow to be the world's greatest superpower, when the majority of our citizens can't think 15 minutes into the future? I've personally asked at least 100 people, what will we do as a nation to respond to the needs of the baby boom generation as they retire, get old, and get sick? And none of them have an answer. But they sure as heck know we shouldn't start by reforming health insurance now, while we still can.

Osama bin Laden must have been absolutely brilliant. He saw that the only way to destroy America was by taking advantage of the stupidity of the American people. Knock a couple buildings down, and we'd cower our national treasure away. Scare stupid Americans so that we look the other way when we inevitably turn on each other. And now, our enemies just sit back and watch us circle the drain as we flush the toilet known as Democracy.

by Anonymousreply 1209/23/2013

Send this shithead back to Canada!

by Anonymousreply 1309/23/2013

[quote]And this is the guy they're banking on to be the GOP 2016 presidential nominee?

No. Unlike Obama, he WASN'T born here. He embodies their every lie and hypocrisy. That rancid lot of rightwing trash better not try to get him nominated knowing what they did to Obama.

by Anonymousreply 1409/23/2013

[quote]Ted Cruz (R-TX) ... advised House Republicans to “shut down the military” if they had to.

Someone has a death wish.

by Anonymousreply 1509/23/2013

Not that I'm defending him in the least, but the reason Cruz just stepped onto a whole new level of cray-cray is because "anonymous senior aides" in the House called him a pussy for refusing to filibuster an Obamacare-defunding bill in the Senate. But really: the asshole just stepped onto a MASSIVE landmine. Shut down the military? He thinks THAT is going to play with the Repug base??? Sure: the same day radical Muslims launch a major terrorist attack in Kenya, let's just shut down all our national defenses! Fucktard...

by Anonymousreply 1609/23/2013

[quote]That rancid lot of rightwing trash better not try to get him nominated knowing what they did to Obama.

Cruz will never be nominated. Say what you will about Republicans, but in the past two presidential elections they ended up picking the most moderate candidate of the bunch for the general election. There's also the small fact that one of the reasons Republicans *think* (erroneously) that he's appealing is because he can supposedly attract the "Latino vote" -- except the idiots in the GOP don't realize that he's Cuban, and that the overwhelming majority of MEXICAN Latinos hate Cubans!

by Anonymousreply 1709/23/2013

send this idiot back to Canada, where he was born. oops, I forgot, I like Canada, wouldn't wish such foulness upon them.

by Anonymousreply 1809/23/2013

There is nothing in R2's post that makes sense, let alone even be true.

by Anonymousreply 1909/23/2013

Has the question of Cruz's eligibility to be President been settled? It was brought up on this board about a month ago, but nothing definitive emerged, IIRC. Let's nip this guy before he can do any more damage.

by Anonymousreply 2009/23/2013

He reminds me of the candidate from the Manchurian Candidate.

by Anonymousreply 2109/23/2013

Oh hardly, R2. Obama read the polls and saw that his base wasn't with him on this one, and he did the only thing he could to save face. Going to Congress put the onus for making the decision on the Pubbies, and set himself up for winning regardless of what happens. If Syria implodes, he can blame the Pubbies for not doing anything, and if they successfully get Assad to give up his chemical weapons, he'll win another Nobel.

This was not his first choice, however. Obama has shown himself to be a hawk, droning the Middle East as much as he can. He got bin Laden. And he wanted to be the president that took down Assad in a show of strength that was supposed to impress the Iranians. He knew that the republicans in Congress would do a complete 180 on intervention, and he counted on the base to support him. I'm sure he is stunned that we didn't.

What he doesn't understand is why. Not that progressives aren't generally anti-war; but my feeling was that the Democrats in Congress thought they could rally the troops for support as much as Obama. They fail to see that the only time Obama does what the base wants is when he's forced, like supporting gay marriage only after losing the midterms in 2010 and having Joe Biden upstage him on Meet the Press. Or when Susan Collins resurrected the repeal of DADT. Frankly, I'm sick of supporting Obama when he needs it, but only having him turn around and start talking "grand bargain," chained CPI, and turning a blind eye to the massive cuts the Pubbies have and are ramming through. And the problem isn't only that he won't fight these bastards; half of the time, these rotten ideas are his proposals before even coming to the negotiating table. Single-payer, anyone?

by Anonymousreply 2209/23/2013

Republicans are unhinged. How sick and twisted do you have to be to try to keep people from getting health care? Everyone should be outraged about this but some are acting as though this were perfectly acceptable and normal.

by Anonymousreply 2309/23/2013

I would love the military to shut down.

by Anonymousreply 2409/24/2013

Texas... again.

by Anonymousreply 2509/24/2013

Yes. Shut down the military. Please. Why gays being allowed in the military is seen as a victory for us I'll never understand.

Bullet. We. Dodged. (literally)

by Anonymousreply 2609/24/2013

Biden told Colorado yesterday that the shut down would not affect them.


by Anonymousreply 2709/24/2013
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