A gay actor comes to Hollywood with a few important contacts. Things work out for him even though he breaks up with one of his important contacts, he continues on his trip to stardom. He has drug problems but usually keeps them under control, his friends don't. No matter, he's a star. A friend (drug mule?) falls for him, gets pregnant by forcing herself on him when he's kind of out of it. She refuses to get an abortion and announces the happy situation. Of course, baby ends up, late term abortion. Girl feels resentful and offers to tell the star's whole story to the tabloids. The star has a very nice franchise deal going, next thing you know, the girl has an accident and she's dead.
Would it make a good Hollywood novel or is it just more of the same old thing?
|by B. Wagner||reply 93||11/06/2013|
Don't call us, Brucie .... we'll call you. Okay, we won't, but ....
|by B. Wagner||reply 1||09/20/2013|
Sounds like the Keanu Reeves story.
|by B. Wagner||reply 2||09/20/2013|
[quote]He has drug problems but usually keeps them under control, his friends don't.
The friend being River?
|by B. Wagner||reply 4||09/20/2013|
Friends like River, Alan Boyce, Rodney Harvey, Anthony Keidis, Dave Navarro, Courtney Love, Andy Dick, Robert Downey?
|by B. Wagner||reply 5||09/20/2013|
Is there mother type role?
|by B. Wagner||reply 6||09/20/2013|
Viola wants to know if there are any domestic roles.
"I'm sure there is a nurse or something like that in the abortion sequence...and BTW what am I your agent?
|by B. Wagner||reply 7||09/20/2013|
There's a big party scene.
There are two mothers.
|by B. Wagner||reply 8||09/21/2013|
It's an ensemble piece, a huge cast.
|by B. Wagner||reply 9||09/21/2013|
When you think about the movie stars directors, producers, agents, boyfriends...it's a pretty gay movie.
If they made it into a film, it would have to be on HBO.
|by B. Wagner||reply 10||09/21/2013|
Oh, and is there a father type role as well? (Maybe G can audition).
|by B. Wagner||reply 11||09/21/2013|
Oh yes! A few father type roles, mostly unattractive guys but I guess that could change. A silver fox might be nice.
|by B. Wagner||reply 12||09/21/2013|
Would it make a good Hollywood novel - yes.
Is it more of the same - yes.
There are no original stories. It's how you do it that matters. Hooker with the heart of gold done well is La Traviata.
The bigger problem with your story outline is that you make a bunch of literary promises, but don't seem to deliver. Is this a detective story - who killed the girl? Is it a hero's journey about the gay actor trying to make it in Hollywood. A (one-sided) love story? You see where I'm going.
The plot "twists" you've described are merely melodrama without the character progression reflected in choices made along the way.
|by B. Wagner||reply 13||09/21/2013|
"Is there mother type role?"
Excuse me M bitch, but a dead, dying or troubled child? That's my tour de morph!
|by B. Wagner||reply 14||09/21/2013|
Yes, it's a problem. I sometimes see it as a detective story but it could be a story about the loss of innocence?
It could be the classic success story, except the gay boy always had a leg up, so he wasn't a a self made man.
|by B. Wagner||reply 15||09/21/2013|
That sounds like Keanu Reeves' biography
|by B. Wagner||reply 16||09/21/2013|
Sorry Sally, no Grandmothers are involved. Of course an older actress, could play an older actress?
|by B. Wagner||reply 17||09/21/2013|
Biggest issue - who's the bad guy - the gay man for forcing a late term abortion and then presumably killing the actress. Or, the actress for intentionally getting pregnant and is after money all along.
It can go either way; I like the second version. A lot of men would sympathize with today's forced fatherhood situation (DNA tests, child support, etc.) The actor (does not need to be gay, btw) would slowly be losing control of the situation - you would see him coercing her to get the abortion - but, who kills her is the mystery. Say, he didn't do it. But, is suspect.
|by B. Wagner||reply 18||09/21/2013|
But the actor is gay.
Is there only one bad guy? I thought everyone in Hollywood was a bad guy.
The lawyer, a fixer? They are always bad guys.
A mother could be bad or maybe a stepfather?
There's a lot to choose from when it comes to bad guys.
The actress? A dealer? A hanger-on? Seems like a bad guy.
Maybe the actor is simply a user, so charming and adorable except when he's drunk. I think he's a bad guy.
|by B. Wagner||reply 19||09/21/2013|
Maybe it's just another version of The Player, except the star won't end up with a pretty wife...or maybe he will?
|by B. Wagner||reply 20||09/21/2013|
OP,are you Bosch Wagner,80s fisting star?
|by B. Wagner||reply 21||09/21/2013|
Lord, Keanu didn't murder his beard. Her death, at best, was fortuitous.
|by B. Wagner||reply 22||09/21/2013|
This particular actor has an attorney, kind of like Burt Fields, so if a girl went to the star and said, "You're in this fantastic franchise, I don't believe the world would really want to see the video I've got, do you?" What if she had video of him shoveling coke with Marilyn Manson!?
I don't think the star would have any need to fix the disaster by himself. If I were writing the story, I think there would be some kind of special ops person who could handle the situation.
|by B. Wagner||reply 23||09/21/2013|
Will Robert Wagner star in this or not?
|by B. Wagner||reply 24||09/21/2013|
Is there a role for a broken down chanteuse, skyving for her next meal and a last chance at love?
|by B. Wagner||reply 26||09/21/2013|
I am good playing mothers.
|by B. Wagner||reply 27||09/21/2013|
There's a part for Liza, I'm sure of that.
|by B. Wagner||reply 28||09/21/2013|
If the girlfriend is under 30, there is a part for me!
|by B. Wagner||reply 29||09/21/2013|
If it's comedy with romance, I'm in!
|by B. Wagner||reply 30||09/21/2013|
If you want it to be made into a movie, you'd have to make the gay guy a sub character...brother of the str8 guy.
The gay guy's too cool and macho and THE STAR...no way, People wouldn't like it.
But I think you're onto something.
|by B. Wagner||reply 31||09/21/2013|
Is there a role for a caring nun who urges the main character to seek the straight and narrow?
|by B. Wagner||reply 32||09/21/2013|
Yes, please do drag us all through the entire process of creating this cliche-filled trite tome.
Yes, please do turn this website into your own personal blog.
Yes, please do pretend you're just sharing, when it's actually part of a protracted publicity scheme that will culminate in the release of your shitty over-hyped book.
Yes, please do have an interesting personal back story, like that of a drug-addled whore and talent-free drag queen failure.
|by B. Wagner||reply 33||09/21/2013|
There is a Buddhist fanatic in the story, will that count as a nun?
Drag Queen? That would be his stepfather.
|by B. Wagner||reply 34||09/21/2013|
[quote]Things work out for him even though he breaks up with one of his important contacts, he continues on his trip to stardom. He has drug problems but usually keeps them under control, his friends don't.
If you really want to be a writer, OP, I [italic]think[/italic] it still matters whether or not you can write a sentence.
|by B. Wagner||reply 35||09/21/2013|
"There is a Buddhist fanatic in the story, will that count as a nun?"
How does a Buddhist fanatic help Vicky Clarke get closer to EGOT?
|by B. Wagner||reply 36||09/21/2013|
So you are saying I can't write, because I can't construct a proper sentence? Don't be anal...did it stop Paris Hilton?
|by B. Wagner||reply 37||09/21/2013|
There needs to be an opening scene in The Hamptons, or maybe Fire Island? It would be in the early 80s or late 70s.
|by B. Wagner||reply 38||09/21/2013|
I think Mandy Patinkin might be perfect as Stepfather!
|by B. Wagner||reply 39||09/21/2013|
This is not somebody having an idea for a script/novel, this is the Keanu Reeves stalker troll obsessing forever and ever.
|by B. Wagner||reply 41||09/21/2013|
Who gets to play Gus Van Sant? I vote for Damon Damon Damon!
|by B. Wagner||reply 42||09/21/2013|
Why couldn't the story be a book, Jackie Collins has made millions, with less.
Damon would be ideal.
|by B. Wagner||reply 43||09/21/2013|
The classic (and no doubt invented) scene of Damon in proper wig turning River P onto heroin would be his Oscar clip at the ceremony. "Here, little boy... try it... just once."
|by B. Wagner||reply 44||09/21/2013|
If I play the role of young Keanu Reeves and talk about how demons from being forced in the closet lead me to drugs will they just hand me the oscar or do we still have go through the motions?
|by B. Wagner||reply 45||09/21/2013|
As long as you tell us about your rehab stay in FULL DETAIL, Zac,. and especially publish excerpts from your private journal. .. it's a done deal.
Hurry, though,. the window is closing.
|by B. Wagner||reply 46||09/21/2013|
I don't know, they are going to have to work on Zac to grunge him up.
Maybe they should open with River (DeHaan?) and his buds in Micanopy, watching Drugstore Cowboy and learning a lifestyle?
Then they could actually start the film with Keanu and River shooting up in Seattle, while filming I Love You To Death.
|by B. Wagner||reply 48||09/21/2013|
Sounds like another day at the office to anyone in the know.. to those outside the biz, sounds like an interesting story. Little too complicated, convoluted for a movie though. The main guy being gay would also hurt its marketability.
|by B. Wagner||reply 49||09/21/2013|
It would have to show on HBO.
No one goes to the theater to see a film about Hollywood characters anyway. And HBO does nudity and sex.
|by B. Wagner||reply 50||09/21/2013|
R26, I saw a rerun of L&O: Criminal Intent the other that was made for DL-- Liza Minnelli as Patsy Ramsey!
It even featured DL perennial Nancy Grace, here called Faith Yancy.
|by B. Wagner||reply 51||09/21/2013|
ardith, you will never let keanu die, will you?
|by B. Wagner||reply 52||09/21/2013|
What did Patsy do in L&O? Did she kill her daughter?
|by B. Wagner||reply 53||09/21/2013|
R53 Liza was hilarious, "pretending" to be drunk, cig hanging from her mouth, dropping ashes into the roast she was preparing.
Though there were some changes for legal reasons, the ending came down to the brother injuring JonBenet while they were "playing doctor." The dad then finished her off.
|by B. Wagner||reply 54||09/21/2013|
But was she arrested at the end of the story? I always wished Patsy and her husband had been arrested, eventually one of them would have told the truth.
|by B. Wagner||reply 55||09/22/2013|
Great story, OP. It would probably work best as a suspense and I can see DePalma hitting this over the fence in his heyday. I would give it to current directors like Villeneuve or Gondry to make it something special.
|by B. Wagner||reply 56||09/22/2013|
I can't figure this out...first fuck?
We know he spent his teen summers in Los Angeles with (supposed) stepfather, friend of Sandy Gallen. Was Sandy his first? Katzenberg actually gave him his first real lead. Should that be a part of the film or should we start with people like, Bruce La Bruce and Lou Reed?
|by B. Wagner||reply 57||09/22/2013|
The story is just another Hollywood mystery.
|by B. Wagner||reply 58||09/23/2013|
R55 No Liza/Patsy was not arrested.
|by B. Wagner||reply 59||09/23/2013|
I think the story is unique. I know there are similar stories but nothing this extreme.
Is it extremely good luck? Extreme talent? Extremely powerful friends?
It did seem odd that no one ever ask any questions.
|by B. Wagner||reply 60||09/23/2013|
I want to see a film of the real life of Natalie Wood. The rape. Finding her man servicing her male co-star. Being murdered. All of it.
|by B. Wagner||reply 61||09/23/2013|
Keanu is starting to show his age. He looks like Alan Rickman as Snape here:
|by B. Wagner||reply 62||09/23/2013|
It doesn't sound like a good novel or like the same old thing.
|by B. Wagner||reply 63||09/23/2013|
I could not get R62's link to work :(.
|by B. Wagner||reply 64||09/23/2013|
I rehosted it on imgur, R64:
|by B. Wagner||reply 65||09/23/2013|
Alex in Wonderland reboot
|by B. Wagner||reply 67||09/23/2013|
Do you think that the lawyer could be the first to be eaten by the tyrannosaurus rex?
|by B. Wagner||reply 68||09/23/2013|
That picture is ridiculous. Here is something from over the weekend, in Austin Texas.
|by B. Wagner||reply 69||09/23/2013|
I always wondered if River killed himself because Keanu broke his heart?
Who would know?
|by B. Wagner||reply 70||09/24/2013|
It's been 20 fucking years...and nobody seems to know a thing.
|by B. Wagner||reply 71||09/24/2013|
River was riddled with complexities in practically every facet of his life, his home life, his sexuality, his career. And he had nobody, really. His hippie parents who betrayed him, their little minstrel boy, made good. A rootin-tootin, smack-shootin' vegetarian movie star. And now everyone was living off him. And the drugs weren't really enough anymore because he was destroying everything about himself and he knew it. I think the hypocrisy of his life just did him in. Or maybe he tipped himself over that night without realizing it.
|by B. Wagner||reply 72||09/24/2013|
He had a lot of friends there (best friends) who couldn't seem to realize that he was overdoing it. Then everyone had to be protected. No one could be implicated.
Only versions of the truth came out.
And Keanu referring to River as his Juliet. But it was all explained..."he didn't mean it literally!"
|by B. Wagner||reply 73||09/24/2013|
[quote]And Keanu referring to River as his Juliet
Well, I guess we know who was the top.
|by B. Wagner||reply 74||09/25/2013|
I doubt it.
I think they were both bottoms and that's probably why it didn't work out. Just guessing.
|by B. Wagner||reply 75||09/25/2013|
The "girlfriend's" mother had a lawsuit against Marilyn Manson but I guess Warner Brothers made it go away. Keanu (The One) was making the Matrix Reloaded and Revolutions.
|by B. Wagner||reply 76||09/27/2013|
No, no. The Gay actor has to be played by Andrew Garfield, and the pregnant actress by Emma Stone. Perfecto. I bet we can find roles for Octavia Spencer, Viola Davis, and Allison Janney if she's still alive. As I think about it, maybe the late term abortion would be better played by Jessica Chastain than Emma.
|by B. Wagner||reply 78||10/01/2013|
R72 needs to revisit a dictionary and stop saying things such as "riddled with complexities."
|by B. Wagner||reply 79||10/01/2013|
I don't think I posted riddled with complexities...so I'm safe.
No to Emma Stone, the actress needs to be a little emo and look Italian.
|by B. Wagner||reply 80||10/01/2013|
There needs to be a little Chinese lady, to play the grandmother.
Alice Cooper, Lou Reed and Dolly Parton can play themselves.
|by B. Wagner||reply 81||10/01/2013|
Did anyone see "The Dying Gaul" movies with that Skaaarreeesssdgggaard guy? I picture this script like that, with the lead's villiany kept quiet until the climax and then POW!
|by B. Wagner||reply 82||10/01/2013|
There is still the question, was there any villainy?
|by B. Wagner||reply 84||10/05/2013|
I watched The Dying Gaul and I'm not sure I see a connection because Skarsguaard did his deed all by himself but the Hollywood star I'm talking about would have had fixers.
By the way, great movie.
|by B. Wagner||reply 85||10/10/2013|
Keanu has the perfect story. He also had a couple of really great photo ops and he has never once mentioned Jennifer Syme's name.
Bearded for life and he never even has to mention her name. He never had to live with her and he never had to pay child support. Sounds kind of like a sweet deal. He did have to pay for a rather expensive funeral and burial plot but The Matrix Movies made Keanu, Warner Brothers and Joel Silver a great deal of money.
|by B. Wagner||reply 87||10/18/2013|
I think it would be more interesting if she had the baby and then the unwitting father sued for custody, claiming he's the more fit parent.
|by B. Wagner||reply 88||10/18/2013|
Raising a child? Some people simply aren't up for that.
|by B. Wagner||reply 89||10/18/2013|
Your dedication is lightning up my screen. Keep going.
|by B. Wagner||reply 90||10/19/2013|
There are a lot of characters, enough to fill a book or a screenplay.
Actors, directors, rock stars, dealers and fixers and then we could pretend there was an innocent or was the innocent a desperate blackmailer? Maybe it's just an old Hollywood story, one that has been played out again and again?
|by B. Wagner||reply 91||10/19/2013|
I really want to read this book or see this movie.
Maybe Sophia Coppola could make the film or is she still good friends with the actor?
|by B. Wagner||reply 93||11/06/2013|