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BREAKING NEWS: Kerry Rhodes has been BLACKLISTED from the NFL because he's gay

Disgusting. (Btw this is from a straight sports blog.)

"Free agent safety Kerry Rhodes was more or less outed by Media Takeout during the offseason (the pictures that MTO posted of him with another man appear to have been scrubbed from the site). He still hasn't found a job. This is fucked up, because Kerry Rhodes is good. In fact, by many metrics, he's very good.

Rhodes picked off four passes last season (two of them came against the Jets, but still!) and was part of the fifth-best pass defense in the NFL. Pro Football Focus had him ranked as the fourth-best safety in all of football in 2012. Apart from the retired Ronde Barber, Rhodes is the only player in PFF's top 30 safeties from 2012 that doesn't currently have a job.

Look at his career stats and you will see that there was no obvious drop-off in the quality of Rhodes's play in 2012 compared to the seven previous seasons. He's been serviceable at worst and Pro Bowl-caliber at best. Nothing about him has changed except for the fact that someone put up a picture of him with his arm around a dude. Rhodes has vehemently denied the gay rumors, and yet the mere [italic]suspicion[/italic] of his gayness seems to have been enough to make him unemployable."

(more at link)

by Anonymousreply 19710/13/2014

[quote] (Btw this is from a straight sports blog.)

I think I know what you mean by calling Deadspin a 'straight' blog, but that's not really an accurate way to say it.

by Anonymousreply 109/12/2013

Pity. He should've stayed in the closet

by Anonymousreply 209/12/2013

Deadspin is not straight. There's nothing but gay guys commenting on that blog, zero straight men go there.

by Anonymousreply 309/12/2013

[all posts by ham-fisted troll a removed.]

by Anonymousreply 409/12/2013

Speaking of, DL fave Chris Kluwe got "released" from the Oakland Raiders recently too. End of his career in the NFL I think.

by Anonymousreply 509/12/2013

This is a really sad and depressing situation to see play out. Wow.

by Anonymousreply 609/12/2013

straight sports fans on twitter are wondering the same thing. They think its f-up that he hasn't had a job yet since he is a very good player.

by Anonymousreply 709/12/2013

He would be better off not denying that he's gay. If he was out, the NFL might feel pressured to take him.

by Anonymousreply 809/12/2013

Well, at least Deadspin is applying the screws. I wonder if the NFL will feel compelled to make a statement about it. The article makes a good case for his superiority over most others in his position.

Are any NFL owners known for being more progressive than others? I've heard good things about the Steelers owner, but nothing with reference to this issue.

by Anonymousreply 1009/12/2013

[quote]This is a really sad and depressing situation to see play out.

I won't be so sad if Kerry ends up doing porn for a living. It's his destiny.

by Anonymousreply 1109/12/2013

First of all he hasn't come out yet if ever. I hope he does. Secondly, if this is true, the only way things will change is if fans and mainstream media make a fuss about it. Do most football fans give a shit? The media would if there were rumblings online.

by Anonymousreply 1309/12/2013

Oh, R9, I'm sure that's the problem they had with Aaron Hernandez.

by Anonymousreply 1409/12/2013

[quote]Oh, [R9], I'm sure that's the problem they had with Aaron Hernandez.

No, Hernandez was convicted for a double murder.

by Anonymousreply 1509/12/2013

He should have become a fashion designer. No one ever outs them.

by Anonymousreply 1609/12/2013

[quote]No, Hernandez was convicted for a double murder.

He hasn't been convicted for anything. He has only been charged with one murder and is still a suspect in two other homicides.

by Anonymousreply 1709/13/2013

I used to be one of those guys who said that players should come out and that as long as they could play they would be accepted but clearly that's not the case.

Sad.

by Anonymousreply 1809/13/2013

So what you're writing to tell us is that nothing has happened, OP.

How very BREAKING can you get?

by Anonymousreply 1909/13/2013

r9 He's a football player FFS, he's not applying to work in a pre-school.

by Anonymousreply 2009/13/2013

[quote]Maybe he's not blacklisted for being gay. Instead, he may be blacklisted because he's a liar.

I think that's part of it. The Jets dumped him because he was "selfish" and not a team player. The other problem is the ex-lover making all this very messy and public by running around talking about it and posting photos everywhere, and then of course there are his pathetic denials (Kerry Rhodes: Kim Kardashian's Baby Might Be Mine!)

Who needs all that nonsense distracting the team?

I suspect he is being blacklisted, but I also suspect that the NFL is open to the idea of an openly gay player, even if that player is just a token. It's just that the "first" is going to be someone stable as a rock, a Jackie Robinson, and not a loose cannon who is still denying his sexuality.

by Anonymousreply 2109/13/2013

Very interesting POV, r21. You should post it as a comment on OP's link.

by Anonymousreply 2209/13/2013

he loved me like a little brother, he fucked me like a wife!

by Anonymousreply 2309/13/2013

Agree with R21. Any athlete who seems not 100% focused on the game, and distracted by media shit, is a risk. His problem was that in response to the gay-seeming pics getting leaked, he was all like "hey world, I fucked a Kardashian!" Instead of just staying focused on the game.

So now it's hard to separate whether Rhodes is being shunned because of the maybe-probably-gay thing, or being shunned because he seems to veer toward stupid media drama.

by Anonymousreply 2409/13/2013

[quote]This only gives credence to the analogy -being out is being dead!!

What a pathetic, cowardly comment.

by Anonymousreply 2509/13/2013

And, if this is the case, if he was blacklisted from football because he is gay, what are gay people going to do about it?

by Anonymousreply 2609/13/2013

R26, not watch football, that's what!

Oh, wait...

by Anonymousreply 2709/13/2013

LOL r27

by Anonymousreply 2809/13/2013

I watched Malcolm X last night and I loved that all of those black people didn't take shit, and I wondered...why can't gay people ever get that mobilized? Are they THAT afraid? Is that stereotype of being weak and sissy-like true?

I hope not.

by Anonymousreply 2909/13/2013

Actually, the Cardinals released Kerry before the accusations regarding Hollywood occurred. His release predates the public claims.

by Anonymousreply 3009/13/2013

"So now it's hard to separate whether Rhodes is being shunned because of the maybe-probably-gay thing, or being shunned because he seems to veer toward stupid media drama."

But there are plenty of football, baseball, and basketball players who do stupid shit and create drama in the media without getting fired.

"I watched Malcolm X last night and I loved that all of those black people didn't take shit, and I wondered...why can't gay people ever get that mobilized? Are they THAT afraid? Is that stereotype of being weak and sissy-like true?"

The difference is that black people can't hide the fact that they are black...while many gay guys like Kerry can and do hide the fact that they are gay.

by Anonymousreply 3109/13/2013

Isn't this the same NFL that took Michael Vick back with open arms?

So being photographed cuddling with a guy is worse than participating in the torture and brutal deaths of countless animals?

by Anonymousreply 3209/13/2013

r32, to many, the answer is YES

by Anonymousreply 3309/13/2013

r31, is correct. Almost all Black people are obviously black. Most gay and bisexual people are not publicly gay/bi and a huge percentage of bisexual and gay men are in denial and want nothing to do with gay identity or gay issues.

by Anonymousreply 3409/13/2013

Kerry Rhodes is better than a LOT of safeties in the NFL

by Anonymousreply 3509/13/2013

Because gay people only want to hang around people they want to fuck r29

by Anonymousreply 3609/13/2013

Stop looking at me r31

by Anonymousreply 3709/13/2013

if he's truly blacklisted because of just his 'alleged' gayness, shame on NFL...

by Anonymousreply 3809/13/2013

That's pretty pathetic isn't R34? R32 is correct in that gay people hide, and that does not help gay people at all. It only hurts them. That's when things like this happen, or some anti-gay asshole makes some anti-gay remark and gets publicity for it instead of public shame the way Mel Gibson received or Michael Richards.

But, if gay people want to hide, well, there really isn't much hope for them in society - in any society.

by Anonymousreply 3909/13/2013

Yep, the thing is that Kerry is such denial and desperate to prove that he is not gay or bisexual, he can't even defend himself against anti-gay discrimination. He has to pretend it is not even an issue, because he is "not gay."

by Anonymousreply 4009/13/2013

Very true, r40. There is plenty of "under the radar" discrimination against gays in sports (not just against the players, but the coaches, the GMs, the team owners, and other guys working behind the scenes) because most of the gays in sports are closeted and won't fight back. You can't stand up and say "I'm the target of discrimination because I'm gay" if you are pretending to be straight.

by Anonymousreply 4109/13/2013

[quote]Isn't this the same NFL that took Michael Vick back with open arms?

Apples and oranges! Michael Vick went to prison, did his time and got out. He has a low media profile that only includes playing football.

For a team to sign closet case Rhodes, they also risk taking on every media shitstorm his ex-lover can stir up. If he just came out and said, "Yes, I'm gay," the ex-lover can't cause any more serious problems. It would allow him to concentrate on the game and not wonder if the ex is sitting in the stands with a bunch of friends waiting to embarrass him again.

by Anonymousreply 4209/13/2013

"For a team to sign closet case Rhodes, they also risk taking on every media shitstorm his ex-lover can stir up."

Mst mainstream media outlets ignored "Hollywood" - it was just the gossip blogs that printed his story. And Michael Vick got a TON of media coverage for his dog fights. He isn't low profile at all. Besides, tons of guys probably live in fear that someone they slept with will out them to the media - not just the gays but also straight athletes who screw around on their wives or girlfriends.

by Anonymousreply 4309/13/2013

Yes, Michael Vick got a TON of coverage. How many Vick dog fights do they mention in sports columns today? The TON of coverage was during his arrest and trial and release from prison. It's NOT ongoing. Duh! Since going back into football he has maintained a football profile, not a media storm about dog fights.

by Anonymousreply 4409/13/2013

"Yes, Michael Vick got a TON of coverage. How many Vick dog fights do they mention in sports columns today? The TON of coverage was during his arrest and trial and release from prison. It's NOT ongoing. Duh! Since going back into football he has maintained a football profile, not a media storm about dog fights."

Well, the Kerry Rhodes "media storm" pretty much ran out once Hollywood ran out of pics and videos to share....

Weird to see people defending anti-gay discrimination.

by Anonymousreply 4509/13/2013

[quote]Weird to see people defending anti-gay discrimination.

Chic-Fila.

People love to bask gays. It's really America's favorite past time.

by Anonymousreply 4609/13/2013

Let's compare this case with Chad Johnson, aka Chad Ochocinco. Chad is a very talented football player (6 time Pro Bowler player) who is clearly straight, and he's sitting in his apartment this season since no NFL team will touch him because of his personal drama.

Granted, Chad has a misdemeanor domestic battery charge hanging over him, but this is the NFL where they overlook much more than that (Ray Lewis comes to mind).

I would suggest that both Rhodes and Johnson are not playing because no team wants to deal with their personal circus more than anything having to do with their sex lives.

by Anonymousreply 4709/13/2013

R46, I bask in gays too.

by Anonymousreply 4809/13/2013

"Granted, Chad has a misdemeanor domestic battery charge hanging over him"

Right. Which is why it's silly to compare Chad to Kerry.

by Anonymousreply 4909/13/2013

Football is different than any other sport. First, it's players, other than QBs, wideouts, and running backs, are largely anonymous. They wear helmets. We don't really "know" an average NFL safety as compared to an average MLB second basement or average NBA small forward. And it's so much easier for teams to just not deal with a gay player in the NFL because of this relative anonymity.

I'm not surprised by this at all.

by Anonymousreply 5009/13/2013

{quote]Right. Which is why it's silly to compare Chad to Kerry.

Not really. You think something like that gets you kicked out of the NFL?

Here are 667 NFL player arrests. Tell me how many of them are still playing football:

by Anonymousreply 5109/13/2013

Chad Ochocinco seems very DL to me too. I loved when Jason Collins came out and he said that he didn't judge people's personal choices. I laughed, I thought...I wonder how much cock this guy gets regularly.

by Anonymousreply 5209/13/2013

[quote]Is that stereotype of being weak and sissy-like true?

No, we just made that up for shits and giggles.

by Anonymousreply 5309/13/2013

Stereotypes are hints of truth.

by Anonymousreply 5409/13/2013

Most legit media ignored the Hollywood sideshow. However, after Deadspin posted its story on Rhodes' purported blacklisting, major media has used that as angle to present the Hollywood story.

by Anonymousreply 5509/13/2013

R42, if he admits it, it will bring even more "distraction". The media would be all over the first NFL player to be out.

by Anonymousreply 5609/13/2013

r56, but at least he could try to turn it into a positive. Jason Collins is unemployed but at least he is culturally celebrated, gets a prominent spot at the VMA awards, and has much more name recognition now than he had before. Darren Young is winning wrestling "matches" like never before, on talk shows such as Ellen, and is more well-known than he ever dreamed before.

by Anonymousreply 5709/13/2013

Has Drew Brees indicated what he thinks of this?

by Anonymousreply 5809/13/2013

r58, only because he tips at takeout. That is a horribly alarming trend. When you have to tip at takeout, I'll do all my own cooking.

by Anonymousreply 5909/13/2013

The NFL will have a gay player, but it will be orchestrated like a Broadway Show when it happens. He will be squeaky clean, he'll be in a long term relationship with someone who is also above reproach (I'm talking about not so much as a parking ticket between them). We're talking one charming mutherfucker, a regular Donny Osmond. I suspect DataLounge will instantly hate him with a passion.

Even the team he signs with will be carefully chosen--Not someplace like Philadelphia where the fans boo Santa Claus, it'll be San Francisco, Seattle, or maybe New Orleans.

by Anonymousreply 6009/13/2013

Has Drew Brees' ass indicated what it thinks of this?

by Anonymousreply 6109/13/2013

Wish gay men were more masculine

by Anonymousreply 6209/13/2013

"Has Drew Brees' ass indicated what it thinks of this?"

I wonder if Kerry has tapped that ass...

by Anonymousreply 6309/13/2013

"Wish gay men were more masculine"

Kerry isn't a fey guy - what are you talking about?

by Anonymousreply 6409/13/2013

"I wonder if Kerry has tapped that ass"

I doubt it given that Kerry is gay.

by Anonymousreply 6509/13/2013

[quote]I wonder if Kerry has tapped that ass...

He's tapped mines!

by Anonymousreply 6609/13/2013

I'm getting the vapors r66

by Anonymousreply 6709/13/2013

Why are you getting the vapors, Matt D.?

by Anonymousreply 6809/13/2013

R60's prediction is going to be 100% accurate.

by Anonymousreply 6909/13/2013

R57 I'm all for thinking positive but come on. Jason Collins is culturally celebrated? He gets to be at the VMAs? Right, I'm sure he's trilled that he gets front row to watching Miley instead of continuing his life long dream of playing g in the NBA.

Darren Young, Collins and now possibly Rhodes are losing their careers but being famous is going to make up for all their lost income and security? I would bet they would trade it all in to continue playing the sport they love.

by Anonymousreply 7009/13/2013

MediaFakeout is a homophobic, racist, ghetto web site run by high school dropouts. The typos and poor grammar are horrendous.

I couldn't believe when The Huffington Post actually used them and linked their site to them.

A typical MTO headline: Janet Jackson marries -- and get this, HE ISN'T WHITE!!!

by Anonymousreply 7209/13/2013

Always hated Mediatake out. The site is horrible on its own but the comment section is 100x worse.

by Anonymousreply 7309/13/2013

Everybody hates Mediatakeout, but they are like the ghetto National Enquirer. Every now again they break something that is actually true.

by Anonymousreply 7409/13/2013

The real tragedy in this? He's hot and we won't be seeing his behind in tights this season.

by Anonymousreply 7509/13/2013

Oh Kerry, I hope Mantasia's boy snatch was worth you being unemployed.

by Anonymousreply 7609/13/2013

Any comment from the ex on this?

by Anonymousreply 7709/13/2013

r70, you know nothing about WWE and it shows, dude. Darren Young's career is better than ever. He is winning matches with his tag team like never before and is a prominent wrestler. He is doing very well with his career.

by Anonymousreply 7809/13/2013

The Prime Time Players are undefeated since Darren Young said he was gay.

by Anonymousreply 7909/13/2013

And the other two more important players r78? You think that still applies?

by Anonymousreply 8009/13/2013

"Apples and oranges!"

You're damn right. Vick not only got welcomed back into the NFL, they gave him the player of the year!

"He has a low media profile that only includes playing football."

That's because he bailed out of all the high profiled interviews that he was scheduled to do. All no shows at the very last minute, including a scheduled appearance on the Oprah show.

And if we're going to blacklist people for sexual behavior, why hasn't Rob Gronkowski received his walking papers for those pics with the stripper?

by Anonymousreply 8109/14/2013

Buff

by Anonymousreply 8209/15/2013

I feel bad for Kerry. That little gremlin Hollywood sold him out because he wanted a reality show and fame of his own. Now Kerry has no football career because of a greedy trick.

by Anonymousreply 8309/15/2013

What reality show was he going to be on anyway? The Real Downlow Lovers of Football Players?

by Anonymousreply 8409/15/2013

[quote]if we're going to blacklist people for sexual behavior

That's a real big "IF" since we don't know that he got blacklisted for sexual behavior.

The ex-boyfriend has made Kerry Rhodes a lightining rod for controversy. It's not like a one-time photo of a guy with a stripper. It's an ongoing, none-stop controversy due Hollywood's attempts to get a reality show.

It's so much more than "sexual behavior" since Kerry is making denials while Hollywood is making accusations. It's a media storm waiting to explode the minute any team signs the closet case. Again, it's NOT sexual behavior. It's the controversy with the ex.

by Anonymousreply 8509/15/2013

"It's an ongoing, none-stop controversy due Hollywood's attempts to get a reality show."

The "controversy" stopped when Hollywood ran out of photos, videos, texts, and anecdotes to share.

by Anonymousreply 8609/15/2013

"It's an ongoing, none-stop controversy due Hollywood's attempts to get a reality show."

Then what about all the wives and girlfriends who appeared on VH1's Football Wives show back in 2010? Did any of the NFL players whose girls happily agreed to exploit their relationships for fame and money suffer careerwise because of it?

"It's so much more than "sexual behavior" since Kerry is making denials while Hollywood is making accusations."

About whether they had a relationship! Wow! How many professional athletes have had to deal with spousal claims of battery and infidelity?

by Anonymousreply 8709/15/2013

The controversy stopped when Hollywood no longer had someone with the NFL to attach his name to. As long as Rhodes is not with an NFL team, Hollywood can't play off him. If Rhodes were on a team today, the ex would be out there pushing for a reality show about a guy whose ex is an NFL star. Right now, the ex has nothing but a former football player as his hook in attempts for fame. Let a team sign Rhodes and they're signing unwanted media attention that has nothing to do with football.

by Anonymousreply 8809/15/2013

"Let a team sign Rhodes and they're signing unwanted media attention that has nothing to do with football."

If I had a dime for every professional athlete who gets media attention for something other than sports....

by Anonymousreply 8909/15/2013

He is blacklisted because he is gay. To claim otherwise is foolish and bullshit.

Hate towards gays will always exist, but this doesn't compel gay people, or this guy to come out regardless, instead, they and he still hide because they are WEAK. Hate for gays will always exist. The sooner that gay people accept that and move on with their life and come out, the better. Why let other people dictate who you are?

Now let the excuses as to why the closet is important roll in...

by Anonymousreply 9009/15/2013

R90 you better preach! You pretty much summed it up...I'm not even writing anything else.

by Anonymousreply 9109/15/2013

When an NFL player comes out with the backing of his team, Kerry Rhodes may finally realize, "Maybe if I hadn't been a liar I might still be playing football."

by Anonymousreply 9209/15/2013

At this point he should just come out. There actually might be pressure on some team to sign him from the NFL. As of now he's a "straight" player who's just not good enough. I guess he boxed himself in.

by Anonymousreply 9409/15/2013

Now Kerry Rhodes Is Out Of The NFL Because He Wanted Too Much Money

Or is it because he's not really that good and doesn't actually "like" football, whatever the fuck that means? These are the latest reasons for explaining the increasingly inexplicable lack of interest in Kerry Rhodes this season.

Here's Florio:

Mike Jurecki of 910-AM in Phoenix reported Friday that Arizona actually offered Rhodes a one-year, $3 million guaranteed deal. Per Jurecki, Rhodes wanted to “roll the dice” in free agency — and only the Bengals were interested.

Another source told PFT that one team other than the Bengals contacted Rhodes in the offseason. The team in question viewed Rhodes as a player who deserved to earn a contract in the one-year minimum range, but the team learned that Rhodes wasn’t interested in playing unless his compensation was “significant.”

Yet another source said the Rhodes is “just really OK and doesn’t really like football.”

Maybe Rhodes did overestimate his value on the free agent market. Or, it could very well be that Kerry Rhodes did a cost-benefit analysis on his life and determined he did not want to play football unless he made a certain amount of money. Another possibility is that Rhodes wants to make more than the veteran minimum of $840,000 and teams did a cost-benefit analysis of their own, determining the money and the gay-rumors overwhelmed the benefit on the field.

It's going to be impossible to ever know what is actually going on, but here's one thing we do know: according to league sources a man who, just this offseason, was offered a guaranteed $3 million contract, suddenly has neither the desire nor ability to play football.

Photo credit: Getty

Rhodes may have rejected offers in March, but he’s still getting no interest now [Pro Football Talk]

by Anonymousreply 9509/15/2013

All gay sports stars just shut their closets a little tighter.

by Anonymousreply 9610/03/2013

If more and more of them come out, things will change. It's easy to close someone out for being different when it's just 1 or 2 of them publicly out there.

by Anonymousreply 9710/03/2013

Still no team has picked him up. Very suspicious.

by Anonymousreply 9810/05/2013

r88 is right. As soon as any team signs Kerry, Hollywood will get into position to benefit in any way he can. That will disrupt a team and it will make Kerry a liability and I hate to say it but as a football fan, I agree that to sign Kerry with that gold digger Hollywood lurking about wanting fame for himself, is a major and costly headache waiting to happen.

In order to safe guard from the Hollywood factor a team would either have to facilitate getting Hollywood some kind of deal for a show or perhaps buy him out in some way to keep him quiet. One 31 year old unsigned Safety is not worth that kind of expenditure and that would be on top of what ever the team has to pay Kerry. I also don't think there is enough money in the world to keep someone quiet when what they really want is to be seen.

This is all only a problem because of Hollywood. Hollywood ruined Kerry's career out of his selfishness and greed.

Go to the Canadian football league Kerry. Sit this season out. Stay in shape. In another year the scandal surrounding those pictures Hollywood leaked to the press will be very old news and any threat they posed dead.

by Anonymousreply 9910/05/2013

[quote] This is all only a problem because of Hollywood. Hollywood ruined Kerry's career out of his selfishness and greed.

Oh my, such dramatics.

Hollywood outed Rhodes because Rhodes denied that he was gay, when he is. Good for Hollywood. Good for nay gay man who sticks for himself and isn't treated like a dog, especially when they are denied in such a way like embarrassment. More out and proud gay men should out all of these lying assholes who do so only for homophobic reasons.

The rest of your post, R99, is out there and made up.

by Anonymousreply 10010/07/2013

[quote]If more and more of them come out, things will change. It's easy to close someone out for being different when it's just 1 or 2 of them publicly out there.

Don't look at me!

by Anonymousreply 10110/07/2013

I'm freaking the freak out over this injustice

by Anonymousreply 10210/07/2013

I was talking to a friend of mine the other day. He mentioned that he would not watch the show “How I Met Your Mother” because of the fact that Neil Patrick Harris is gay. He just doesn’t support gay entertainers or watch their shows or movies. To this I say to each his own. There are a lot of conservative folks that in this day and age steer clear of anything non heterosexual. That is their prerogative. It seems like the age of vilifying persons for their sexual orientation has subsided, but now we are a group that quietly protests, silently disagrees, and refuse to acknowledge personal accomplishments, or talents, based solely on an individuals personal sexual, religious, or even political affiliation.

This got me thinking about Kerry Rhodes. If there are two Jets that I will always root for it is Braylon Edwards and Kerry Rhodes. For those of you that don’t remember Kerry Rhodes, he was drafted in the 4th round of the 2005 draft, and played a solid five seasons for the Jets. He had started the past three seasons for the Arizona Cardinals at free safety, when pictures of him surfaced last year with a man on his side. The pictures showed them clearly being affectionate with one another, and before we knew it, Kerry Rhodes was “outed” as being a gay professional football player. Here’s the rub. Since those pictures came out, Rhodes has denied, denied, and denied being gay. Even so here is the outcome.

Despite a 2012 season in which a pro bowl talent free safety recorded 67 tackles, one sack, 11 pass breakups, four interceptions, and two forced fumbles he has found literally no work in the NFL. NFL sources claimed that Rhodes didn’t even get a tryout early on this season. Are the numbers a lie, or are they the facts? Is Rhodes who is 31 suddenly past his prime? Is he declining in skill? Is he a liability in coverage, or run defense? Is he a bad locker room presence? What exactly made Kerry Rhodes so bad between last season and this season that literally no NFL team has taken a shot at employing him?

I’m going to put this into a context for you. Michael Vick bought pit-bulls, bred them, and then fought them to the death. He then lied about it repeatedly, and eventually was convicted when his co-conspirators flipped on him. He received prison time, two years out of the NFL. He had a heart to heart with Tony Dungy, found a spot on the Eagles, a new starting job, and even a brand new 100 million dollar contract. Plaxico Burress carried a loaded weapon into a night club in a state that does not allow loaded unlicensed weapons, discharged it into his pants while shooting himself. He received prison time, some time away from the NFL, and found a home with New York and again with Pittsburgh. Where exactly does this context fit with Kerry Rhodes. He had pictures surface, yet he is less employable than the aforementioned players.

I don’t blame Kerry Rhodes, as you can look at his numbers and see that he should probably be starting for about 2/3 of the league right now. I blame owners, head coaches, and general managers. I blame them for making a stance by doing nothing. By doing nothing the NFL owners, and everyone in the decision-making process that says “I don’t want this player, because I believe he is gay”. Let’s face it. That’s what it is, because it’s not his level of play which clearly hasn’t fallen off. By doing nothing, and refusing to sign, or EVEN GIVE THE GUY A WORKOUT, they have said without saying that it is better to be a criminal, or incarcerated, than to be gay in the NFL. I write this not because I believe in gay rights, or I’m an advocate, but because I believe it is the right thing to do. That seems like a thing that no one really cares about anymore in the NFL.

by Anonymousreply 10310/24/2013

and it looks like the NFL will get away with it, but if KR doesn't identify as bi or gay, there is no way he will publicly challenge it.

by Anonymousreply 10412/10/2013

Kerry Rhodes is so deep in the closet. What will come of this guy if he never fully accepts himself? Broke? Death?

by Anonymousreply 10512/10/2013

I showed those pictures to a friend of mine who is gay and does not follow football. He didn't feel that the pictures prove anything, they were benign as far as he saw. I was surprised he said that because I was convinced from my view of the pictures that they proved that Kerry is gay. But looking at them again while hanging out with him I saw his point. The pictures are less affectionate than many you see with "bro's being bro's" that post their pictures online. All they prove is that Kerry is not homophobic to hang out with a little queen like Hollywood.

What fucked things up was Hollywood opening his big mouth and telling tales. Hollywood wants a reality show and he was going to use Kerry to get it. Kerry Rhodes might actually be gay but those pictures don't prove it and even though I think Kerry IS gay I'm going to wait for a more reliable source than Hollywood.

by Anonymousreply 10612/10/2013

r105, it is not like millions of men don't live their entire lives the same way. Many men are "successfully" in denial or closeted for life. Kerry just happened to be a public figure.

by Anonymousreply 10712/10/2013

R107, interestingly, I can't think of any. Name some you know and public figures.

by Anonymousreply 10812/10/2013

Really R108? You can't think of a single person who lives a public life of being straight while being deep in the closet?!!?

by Anonymousreply 10912/10/2013

Adjusted, normal "emotionally and sexually" healthy men who are closeted? No, I can't. And, it appears, neither do you.

by Anonymousreply 11012/10/2013

Football is a business, plain and simple.

Most of the players are not stars, they are anonymous, like an above poster stated. Rhodes simply does not have the star power to bring so much drama to the game.

If Rhodes was trying out for a ballet company or an acting job then I could understand the 'oppression' here, but really, football represents itself as the ultimate in masculinity and sportsmanship.

Bottom line, Rhodes would be cutting into the bottom line. And not because he is a closet case, but because he has too much uncontrollable drama in his life.

Just shut up and catch the ball.

by Anonymousreply 11112/10/2013

I guess the smug "Businesses wouldn't hurt their bottom line by discriminating" dismissal doesn't work so well when it's *your* issue.

by Anonymousreply 11212/10/2013

r108, the ones I know, you would have no idea who they are, and I am not into outing besides anyway. As for public figures, there is rampant speculation about many stars, but the only solid evidence is about public figures who were outed or forced out of the closet by sudden circumstances. If you ever read personals ads or use dating apps, you will immediately see that many men seeking men are closeted, identify as straight, or otherwise on the down low.

by Anonymousreply 11312/10/2013

R112, football is a business in the entertainment field. If you've noticed, there are no women players. That's not because of discrimination, that's because of how things are, because football must meet certain expectations to the general public.

Kerry Rhodes has a messy life. He is a closet case who gets involves with noisy little queens. He has executed poor judgment, and he is a public figure of sorts who represents the game.

No, he is not a criminal. He just has very poor judgment and that will hurt a man professionally.

by Anonymousreply 11412/10/2013

R113, give me a break. Seriously. "Not into outing". Go away, buddy.

by Anonymousreply 11512/10/2013

I think that most people are shocked that he got involved with someone like Hollywood.

by Anonymousreply 11612/10/2013

"If you've noticed, there are no women players. That's not because of discrimination, that's because of how things are, because football must meet certain expectations to the general public."

That's because there aren't any women who are good enough football players to qualify. Kerry is good enough to be in the NFL, he is being discriminated against because of his sexual orientation. That is wrong.

"If Rhodes was trying out for a ballet company or an acting job then I could understand the 'oppression' here, but really, football represents itself as the ultimate in masculinity and sportsmanship."

So sports teams should be able to discriminate against gay men? Wow, I can't believe someone would spout crap like that on a gay board.

by Anonymousreply 11712/10/2013

Why, R116?

by Anonymousreply 11812/10/2013

"I was talking to a friend of mine the other day. He mentioned that he would not watch the show “How I Met Your Mother” because of the fact that Neil Patrick Harris is gay. He just doesn’t support gay entertainers or watch their shows or movies."

Why exactly are you friends with this person? I don't know anyone who refused to watch a movie or show because there was a gay actor in it (and I live in "Pennsyltucky" so it's not like I'm surrounded by liberals, either)

by Anonymousreply 11912/10/2013

Well R117, if you are trying to make partner in a prestigious law firm you wouldn't be exposing your messy, crazy private life either.

If you are trying to establish a medical career, the same.

There is such a thing as professional demeanor. If a man is making almost a million a year and he is a public figure (all professional athletes are) then there are expectations to meet.

Rhodes should have just stayed with masculine, sane men and kept it private. Again, he showed poor judgment.

by Anonymousreply 12012/10/2013

"What fucked things up was Hollywood opening his big mouth and telling tales. Hollywood wants a reality show and he was going to use Kerry to get it. Kerry Rhodes might actually be gay but those pictures don't prove it and even though I think Kerry IS gay I'm going to wait for a more reliable source than Hollywood."

Uh, you've obviously never seen straight "bros" hanging out. They don't act like Kerry and his "friend"

by Anonymousreply 12112/10/2013

I doubt he's been blacklisted but like that punter that's pro-gay loudly & very pc, who last wound up in Oakland they quietly let them go. Rhodes is gay, but he's also at an age where it is iffy about his career. I feel bad for him, really.

by Anonymousreply 12212/10/2013

"If you are trying to establish a medical career, the same."

Huh? You don't get kicked out of the medical profession for dating queeny guys.

by Anonymousreply 12312/10/2013

The NFL is filled with straight men who have "messy" (or straight-up dysfunctional) personal lives but no one cares about that. It's being gay that is the problem.

by Anonymousreply 12412/10/2013

R123, If you are trying to ESTABLISH yourself as a physician, meaning being a partner with others in a business, you WILL be judged on your lifestyle, your spouse, all of it. Are you kidding me?

Do you think that at dinner and cocktails a queen like Hollywood would make a good impression amongst a group of doctors?

Again, it comes down to POOR JUDGMENT.

No, it wouldn't matter if Kerry Rhodes had the Hollywood boyfriend drama and he worked at Vons. No one would care.

What don't you understand?

by Anonymousreply 12512/10/2013

r125, the NFL is full of people with domestic violence convictions, deadbeat father convictions, womanizing, drunk driving convictions, assault convictions, and adultery. Why would they start dealing poor judgment, drama, and bad morals now?

by Anonymousreply 12612/10/2013

It's not homophobia, it's age discrimination! Doesn't matter, bitch, they're both illegal and I think we know which one is worse in that there almost no out gay players but there have been miore than a few 50 year olds in the NFL.

by Anonymousreply 12712/10/2013

R124, right, and the hard truth is that football is always being promoted to the next generation. The NFL is banking on little boys and girls to grow up as football fans, hence the "kick, punt, and throw" competitions and the child-size jerseys.

The hard, cold fact: parents do not want their child's football heroes to have loudmouth queenie boyfriends. Okay? No one said that life was fair, bit that's how it is.

No one wants their child to worship Michael Vick either. Fact of life.

Is Rhodes a criminal? Of course not. He's a better person than Michael Vick, that's for sure. Is it fair that Vick is playing and Rhodes is not? No, it's not fair.

Lesson for all you guys: keep your loudmouth queens at home, no one wants their ten year old son seeing them.

by Anonymousreply 12812/10/2013

I thought England put all of their crazies on a boat to the new world back in 1620?

by Anonymousreply 12912/10/2013

"What don't you understand?"

You're the one who doesn't understand. You obviously don't know any doctors. No one ever got kicked out of the medical profession for having a queeny boyfriend.

"Lesson for all you guys: keep your loudmouth queens at home, no one wants their ten year old son seeing them."

Rhodes is a closet case who kept the relationship a secret, it's "Hollywood" who made the relationship public knowledge

by Anonymousreply 13012/10/2013

Hollywood was known by the team and well liked by the players and the wives.

I love reading posts from people who solely bash Hollywood because he's feminine. Many homophobic gay men on this site.

by Anonymousreply 13112/10/2013

R132, I love that you posted.

And, yet Datalounge lusts after heterosexual men anyways.

by Anonymousreply 13312/10/2013

The NFL is a billion dollar business, and while we certainly don't care if Rhodes is a closet case who dates noisy queens, the general public DOES care and profit is always the bottom line.

And because the NFL is not a philanthropic organization but a business-for-profit they can hire and fire anyone they choose. And they do.

Maybe the real issue is that the NFL just doesn't care for Rhodes, for various reasons, with only one of which being that's he's a gay with a messy life. Maybe they figure that he's just not worth the trouble.

I can GUARANTEE you if this were Payton Manning, a PR firm would be hired and it would all go away.

by Anonymousreply 13412/10/2013

Ben Rothelsberger had two rape allegations brought against him but of course he still got to play in the Super Bowl following the last accusation. I mean FUCK you can be called a rapist and it's STILL okay to play football but you can't be gay?

How fucked up is that?

by Anonymousreply 13512/10/2013

It is fucked up, R135, that's why I believe they should be outed. Out Aaron Rodgers.

by Anonymousreply 13612/10/2013

R135, that's because these assholes have a carefully crafted image of a 'reformed' man, like Vick.

The NFL is not exactly a sterling example of altruism. And the fact that these stadiums are built with taxpayer money that exclude affordable seating for most people is another example.

by Anonymousreply 13712/10/2013

Michael Vick has over 1M followers on twitter.

That is outrageous to me. It shows me how low society is. I'm not sure if it's just American society either. But people in general.

by Anonymousreply 13812/10/2013

Out them all, R136,and let's see who is still standing.

Has any of the other players come out in support of Rhodes?

by Anonymousreply 13912/10/2013

None that I'm aware of, R139, and I have followed the story pretty close. Not one has said if he was gay, it would make no difference.

I support outing. I think the only people who are against outing are homophobes. But, you would essentially be outing homophobes because these pro-athletes go to great lengths to conceal their identity and would never dream of associating with a gay person. And, they never associate with gay rights (the closeted gay ones) or even come out in support of gay marriage. When was the last time Aaron Rodgers spoke out in favor of gay rights? And, why did Aaron call Kevin, his boyfriend, his "roommate"? I'm glad Kevin dumped him and is back in Cali.

by Anonymousreply 14012/10/2013

"I can GUARANTEE you if this were Payton Manning, a PR firm would be hired and it would all go away."

If this had been Peyton Manning you wouldn't even be hearing about it. Hollywood would have turned up dead under "mysterious circumstances"

by Anonymousreply 14112/10/2013

"And because the NFL is not a philanthropic organization but a business-for-profit they can hire and fire anyone they choose. And they do."

So you're in favor of workplace discrimination?

by Anonymousreply 14212/10/2013

Helen, everyone is discriminated against the minute they walk into a job interview.

If you don't think that looks, behavior, or poor judgment means anything than you have another thing coming.

Try being over fifty and looking for a job.

I can't cry too much over a closet case who made millions playing a game.

by Anonymousreply 14312/10/2013

R143, you speak my name!

by Anonymousreply 14412/10/2013

What's the story on Mark Sanchez, R143...

And, any hockey players you know are gay or suspect?

by Anonymousreply 14512/10/2013

And closet cases who make millions and refuse to come out are an insult to the low and middle-income people who risk homelessness when they do come out.

So, really, who gives a shit about this guy.

by Anonymousreply 14712/10/2013

Exactly, R147. Exactly.

I think the famedriven website should investigate who these male roommates/personal assistants are of these high profile athletes. I think that's one way of outing them.

I know of two high profile athletes, or one now, who has a male roommate/personal assistant.

by Anonymousreply 14812/10/2013

[quote]That is outrageous to me. It shows me how low society is. I'm not sure if it's just American society either. But people in general.

"That's wrong!" = you care about the issue "That's LIFE" = you don't care about the issue

Are you exempt from this?

by Anonymousreply 14912/10/2013

[quote]So you're in favor of workplace discrimination?

The day you believe white males can be discriminated against, let me know.

by Anonymousreply 15012/10/2013

Yes, R149.

by Anonymousreply 15112/10/2013

[quote]Try being over fifty and looking for a job.

You mean "try being over fifty and relying on things other than merit, and looking for a job."

Skilled workers age wonderfully: we know where to find the work, we don't get out of bed for less than we're worth, we know where the work is, we know the behavior of the employer and its executives (young people are too grateful to work to care, like in The Firm), and we aren't distracted by social lives.

Now if you're fifty with no real skills and nothing to offer, of course your looks and age won't get you a job. If you rely on skill, however, you'll be fine.

Age discrimination is bullshit.

by Anonymousreply 15212/10/2013

R151,

There's a loophole you can drive a truck through, and that's just refusing to acknowledge any injustice you decide you don't care about.

"Stop whining" and "get over it" were good enough for me, so they're good enough for everyone, unless "everyone" wants to suddenly stand in my corner. I won't be holding my breath.

by Anonymousreply 15312/10/2013

[quote]I know of two high profile athletes, or one now, who has a male roommate/personal assistant.

Sometimes that's the wife or girlfriend's doing.

Usually, though, it's becuase the boss is a flaming homo.

by Anonymousreply 15412/10/2013

R152 is not being honest. And is insulting.

by Anonymousreply 15512/10/2013

R150, white gay males? I'm discriminated against all the time, and have been passed over for jobs because "I seemed gay". I know that from one co-worker of a business I applied for.

R152, you mean you know MS Office?! You are a rare breed my friend.

And, I bet you follow Michael Vick on twitter...don't ya? :)

by Anonymousreply 15612/10/2013

No, I won't get over it, R153. You might not care, but I do.

by Anonymousreply 15712/10/2013

As I've said before, the NFL is homophobic and is not changing any time soon.

I find it amusing that people are shocked by the idea that fucked up criminals can play in the NFL if not convicted, but gays can't. This is America, folks. The land where violence and bloodshed don't make us blink but penises and sex are NC-17. Why the fuck would the NFL be any different?

Macho, white men run the NFL. Next?

by Anonymousreply 15812/10/2013

NFL Insider, are you also an NHL insider too by chance?

by Anonymousreply 15912/10/2013

And you wonder why I fortify my door with barb wires and litter the corridor with tank traps so that anything other than my blind and mute rent boys can enter.

by Anonymousreply 16012/10/2013

"If you don't think that looks, behavior, or poor judgment means anything than you have another thing coming."

Man, people will do anything to defend the homophobes who discriminate against gays. People keep whining about "poor judgment" but there are plenty of straight guys who showed poor judgment and weren't booted from the NFL because of it. Even Republicans like Orrin Hatch are now supporting laws that ban discrimination based on sexual orientation. Sad that some people here are more conservative than Orrin Hatch....

by Anonymousreply 16112/10/2013

No r159, I'm not. Sorry.

I've worked NFL games for 18 years. A few other sports, but never NHL.

by Anonymousreply 16212/10/2013

"I've worked NFL games for 18 years"

What did you do, exactly? Any good dirt to share?

by Anonymousreply 16312/10/2013

it is discrimination, plain and simple. Hollywood is annoying to me too and not a good image for gay dudes, but dating him is not illegal and should not have anything to do with being a football player.

by Anonymousreply 16412/10/2013

I'm not comfortable revealing what I do exactly, because I love my job. So if my statement seems carefully worded not to reveal too much, it's because it was.

As I said, the NFL is homophobic.

I don't work closely enough with the players to have any direct information or personal experiences to share. But rumors spread inside the NFL as well as outside. It's a hostile enough environment that I can tell you not to expect any openness or acceptance any time soon.

No active players will come out.

by Anonymousreply 16512/11/2013

R165, what would happen if a high profile athlete like Aaron Rodgers was outed?

by Anonymousreply 16612/11/2013

"But rumors spread inside the NFL as well as outside."

Details, please!

by Anonymousreply 16712/11/2013

But are the gay players generally known, r165? You don't have to tell us who, just if their teammates would know.

by Anonymousreply 16812/12/2013

But he might look at my tiny pee-pee in the shower.

by Anonymousreply 16912/12/2013

The NFL puts up with "drama" from straight guys all the time

by Anonymousreply 17012/12/2013

NFL is way too macho for this tranny chaser

by Anonymousreply 17112/12/2013

"NFL is way too macho for this tranny chaser"

Did you get lost on the way to a Young Republicans meeting?

by Anonymousreply 17212/12/2013

I've heard the same rumors as you about Rodgers, Tebow and years ago, Aikman, Jeff Garcia, etc.

Where do you think the rumors you hear start?

Do players know when other players are gay? Sure. Do they keep it quiet? I'm not a player (and don't work directly with them as I said), but I imagine they do keep their mouths shut. But I also suspect that it spills out to the rumors that eventually make their way to the public.

Why?

The NFL is selling Gladiators. Manly, violent, rough and tumble modern day Gladiators, in a business run by old, rich white guys. The original good 'ole boys network.

Gay isn't masculine enough for the mainstream. I hate to be blunt, but that's it. r171 has it right.

Why put up with drama from the straights? Because it's macho drama. Violent, criminal, misogynistic drama. Manly men shit.

by Anonymousreply 17312/12/2013

No, actually I am off to a black democratic caucus meeting! They love da gays

by Anonymousreply 17412/12/2013

And by the way, as I mentioned on the Kaepernick thread (I think it was), the NFL is not the only organization like this, but I do think it will be one of the last to open up and get out of the closet.

I predict you will see openly gay players in the NBA and MLB before the NFL.

Don't follow or work NHL, so I cannot speak to the climate over there. Superficially, it looks similar to the NFL, but the costs aren't as high. The NFL is truly America's game. The number 1 show on all of broadcast TV the last few years was Sunday Night Football, and it's only on the air for four months of the year.

by Anonymousreply 17512/12/2013

"Gay isn't masculine enough for the mainstream. I hate to be blunt, but that's it. R171 has it right."

Well, Kerry was considered "masculine enough" to make an NFL roster in the first place.

Man, the datalounge is becoming more and more like Fox News every day. Arguing for workplace discrimination (even a lot of total freepers are against that now), attacking professional athletes who happen to be gay for not being "masculine enough"

by Anonymousreply 17612/12/2013

Why is Rhodes attracted to chicks with dicks?

by Anonymousreply 17712/12/2013

"Why is Rhodes attracted to chicks with dicks?"

He isn't

by Anonymousreply 17812/12/2013

The flamer that outed him sure is

by Anonymousreply 17912/12/2013

My concern for Kerry (and yes, I feel sorry for him, he picked a real winner) is that he is not very financially astute.

Most professional athletes blow through their money within five years. Hell, even Mike Tyson is said to have spent over 100 million dollars and ended up penniless and on the street.

There was no reason to buy that golddigger an expensive new car. Hollywood is a grown man who can buy his own car. He can also pay for his own vacations. Kerry was extravagant with another man--big mistake. Most wives don't receive those kinds of gifts.

It seems to me that Kerry's poor judgment extends to his financial situation. If he cannot get hired in the NFL, he may go broke.

All because of this Hollywood character.

by Anonymousreply 18012/12/2013

Just like some bisexuals, if you go to a video store, you see some thugs looking at tranny videos. They are wild to rape some tranny stinky ass and get to suck some long tranny dick too. Nasty!

by Anonymousreply 18112/12/2013

An obnoxious nelly queen has ruined Kerry's career as an athlete and any endorsement opportunities. He also put Kerry on the dime for a new car and vacations. This vicious little queen has ruined a man's life.

Kerry will likely go bankrupt. I don't know what he has planned for a career outside of football. But Kerry knew all along that the NFL is a macho business and there are no flamers walking around. Kerry knew all along that he wasn't going to change the business, it's the NFL for God's sake.

Poor judgment in a choice for a mate can ruin one's life.

by Anonymousreply 18212/12/2013

"He also put Kerry on the dime for a new car and vacations."

Kerry chose to buy him those things

"But Kerry knew all along that the NFL is a macho business and there are no flamers walking around"

Kerry isn't "flaming"

by Anonymousreply 18312/12/2013

Kerry brought the flamer around to hang out among the other players and their wives.

And yes, you are right, he did choose to buy flamer those expensive gifts.

Like I said, POOR JUDGMENT.

by Anonymousreply 18412/12/2013

r176, Please don't confuse answering a question about what the workplace mentality at the NFL and why with defending it.

I was asked and explained what the climate is. Not what my opinion about the climate is. That's an entirely different discussion.

by Anonymousreply 18512/12/2013

Maybe the NFL insider can educate us on the average tenure of someone at a safety position. I'm guessing that it can be a rather short employment window, unless someone has star quality.

Invest people, invest. Or just sock it away in the bank. But watch your money, quit trying to impress other people.

by Anonymousreply 18612/12/2013

Let me put it this way: NFL also stands for "Not For Long"

by Anonymousreply 18712/12/2013

R184, Hollywood was very well liked by the team and the players' wives.

Douche bag.

by Anonymousreply 18812/12/2013

R188, well isn't that nice, Hollywood was well liked by the wives. Yes, what a sweet guy he is, just a dream. A real gent.

To defend that snake in the grass is quite revealing. After all that Kerry had done for him, car, vacation, dinner, jewelry, etc.

Hollywood isn't even attractive, not by anyone's standards. Kerry could have at least picked up a good-looking guy to spend his hard earned money on. Kerry has atrocious taste in men.

When an athletic guy goes with a nelly queen it shows you that they are a dumb couple. And when dumb people get together you have all kinds of stupid drama, like this shit.

Hollywood is out to ruin Kerry's life for some reason, probably out of jealousy. Quit blaming the NFL, a business, on the drama of two queens.

by Anonymousreply 18912/12/2013

"Quit blaming the NFL, a business, on the drama of two queens."

Spoken like a true homophobe

by Anonymousreply 19012/12/2013

Wasn't Rhodes released before the pics came out? And, wasn't he dealing with some injury for a while?

Of course homophobia could be part of him not getting signed, but if he were a Top-10 player at his position, I bet he'd get picked up regardless.

by Anonymousreply 19112/12/2013

This thread is so sad

by Anonymousreply 19212/13/2013

Oh lord, I foresee Kerry on an episode of "Fix My Life" where Iyanla reads him for not being honest about his sexuality and spending so much money.

by Anonymousreply 19312/13/2013

anything new?

by Anonymousreply 19401/09/2014

well, I guess it is over for him

by Anonymousreply 19510/13/2014

He's lost weight. Doesn't look as good.

by Anonymousreply 19610/13/2014

He still looks hot to me

by Anonymousreply 19710/13/2014
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