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Where 'Not' To Live in the United States?

I nominate the state of Oklahoma.

by Anonymousreply 9310/19/2013

Where not to live: in the United States.

by Anonymousreply 109/08/2013

West part of Texas

by Anonymousreply 209/08/2013

Statistically, Flint, Michigan is the worst city in the United States.

by Anonymousreply 309/08/2013

Anywhere in Louisiana

by Anonymousreply 409/08/2013

Certainly all of New York, but especially moribund NYC.

by Anonymousreply 509/08/2013

(R1)...prissy cunt!

by Anonymousreply 609/08/2013

Shithole Florida

by Anonymousreply 709/08/2013

Gary, Indiana

Anywhere in tornado alley

Any depressed former factory or mill town

Orem, Utah

Rural Appalachia

hell...most of flyover country

by Anonymousreply 809/08/2013

I've driven through Indiana three times on road trips and it is a depressing shithole. I would be suicidal if I had to live there.

by Anonymousreply 909/08/2013

Not all of Florida is a shithole. But you have to be very careful. I grew up in Florida near the edge of the Everglades, and there's still much good here, if you can find it.

by Anonymousreply 1009/08/2013

There's no way Flint is worse than Gary, IN.

by Anonymousreply 1109/08/2013

south carolina Kentucky alabama west virginia Louisiana east texas oklahoma new hampshire iowa kansas indiana ohio

by Anonymousreply 1209/08/2013

Oh OOOOOklo-homo where the wind comes skipping down the plains.

by Anonymousreply 1309/08/2013

R1 is incorrect.

by Anonymousreply 1409/08/2013

R1 You're mistaken; there's nothing wrong with that punctuation. And I think your title would require a semicolon instead of the colon you used, unless you wanted to say that one shouldn't live anywhere in the United States.

by Anonymousreply 1509/08/2013

R15, you're missing the pointed sarcasm in that post.

by Anonymousreply 1609/08/2013

Meriden, Connecticut

by Anonymousreply 1709/08/2013

Generally speaking, I think threads like this are idiotic. But I do agree with R9.

by Anonymousreply 1809/08/2013

Maricopa County. Who would want to live within spitting distance of Sherriff Joe, the suppurating smegma encrusted Bigot in Chief.

by Anonymousreply 1909/08/2013

Anywhere, except Manhattan south of 23rd Street.

by Anonymousreply 2009/08/2013

Any state that voted in a Republican governor.

by Anonymousreply 2109/08/2013

the slave states

by Anonymousreply 2209/08/2013

Oklahoma - driven through, stayed in a few different cities. Scary racism, homophobia, Oklahoma City just felt depressing and dirty.

by Anonymousreply 2309/08/2013

Avoid Virginia like the plague.

by Anonymousreply 2409/08/2013

Detroit, but no one needed to tell you that.

by Anonymousreply 2509/08/2013

Don't forget Kansas!

by Anonymousreply 2609/08/2013

An ex of mine recently moved to OK, R23. But he shouldn't have any problems. He's straight except when he's sucking cock.

by Anonymousreply 2709/08/2013

Louisiana is a beautiful place to live! The food, fishing, hunting, Mardi Gras. It is a sportsman's paradise. That is something you nellies never got into, right?

by Anonymousreply 2809/08/2013

Haha, a guy I don't like went back to live in Louisiana. Good riddance.

by Anonymousreply 2909/08/2013

Not Oklahoma City itself?? And if it should get dull, you can always go away to Tulsa for the weekends!

by Anonymousreply 3009/08/2013

You type so masculinely, r28, on this gay site. Make sure you don't have an accident with your big gun while you're out hunting squirrels or possums or whatev.

by Anonymousreply 3109/08/2013

Meriden, CT used to be nice until the lovely and charming residents of Hartford discovered it.

by Anonymousreply 3209/08/2013

It'd be so much easier to list where TO live... because there are so few good options if you want the whole enchilada... weather, wealth, a certain amount of culture and intellect... that last one wipes out most of the South and Midwest.

Honolulu - Weather is the obvious selling point. Isolation is the reason not to go. Also, they're getting Fukushima radiation on their shores soon, if not already.

Los Angeles - Weather is a plus. Not so isolated. Crowded and expensive. Not so cultured.

San Francisco - Way too expensive. Lots of culture, smart people and wealth. Weather is medium.

Seattle - Bad weather. Can be expensive, though not like San Francisco. Smart people and some money. Not classified a 'World City' in terms of culture.

New York - Dirty. Crowded. Expensive. Old. Gives it character but makes it shitty too (walk ups, window a/c units, etc.). Bad Weather. The definitive 'World City'.

Boston - Very expensive. Smaller (both a plus and a minus). Very cultured, lots of character. Lots of smart people.

San Diego - Excellent weather. How expensive it is depends on your standards. No culture. Lots of dumb people, but they are often hot and in skimpy clothes. You'll run into Sean Cody type site models sometimes, if that's your thing.


by Anonymousreply 3309/08/2013

San Diego it is!

by Anonymousreply 3409/08/2013

[quote]Any state that voted in a Republican governor.

Well, then: California and New York can go fuck RIGHT off! You too, Massachusetts, for bringing upon us the pox that is Mittens Romney!

by Anonymousreply 3509/08/2013

San Diego is beautiful and has a lot of pluses - but there's no "there" there. It's like permanently Sunday afternoon.

Loved to visit, but after 48 hours, I'm done.

by Anonymousreply 3609/08/2013


by Anonymousreply 3709/09/2013

R32 - it's true -every resident of Meriden CT over 12 is a convict.

by Anonymousreply 3809/09/2013

Pretty much anywhere between the coasts

by Anonymousreply 3909/09/2013

Avoid Springfield, Illinois at all costs. I refer to it as the place where hope goes to die. Horrific city...simply horrific.

by Anonymousreply 4009/09/2013


by Anonymousreply 4109/09/2013

Anyplace too close to rising sea levels including the California Central Valley, Florida, and the New York-Washington corridor.

by Anonymousreply 4209/09/2013


by Anonymousreply 4309/09/2013

R27 He's straight except when he's sucking cock, and, I'm guessing, when he's getting fucked?

by Anonymousreply 4409/09/2013

I keep getting telemarketing calls from KC. Back when it was legal, they used to call from Omaha. Now that it's illegal, they call from Kansas City suburbs. Go figure.

by Anonymousreply 4509/09/2013

Florida owns this thread.

by Anonymousreply 4609/09/2013

NYC again. A tourist destination for the simple.

by Anonymousreply 4709/09/2013

Any red state. Period.

by Anonymousreply 4809/09/2013

Also places with nuclear power. Sorry, Illinois.

by Anonymousreply 4909/09/2013

Can anyone comment on Portland, Oregon, or Baltimore?

by Anonymousreply 5009/09/2013

[quote]Maricopa County. Who would want to live within spitting distance of Sherriff Joe, the suppurating smegma encrusted Bigot in Chief.

And the problem isn't even Arpaio. It's the concentration of nutzoids who re-elect him time after time...many of whom moved here from all the other shitholes on this thread.

by Anonymousreply 5109/09/2013


I was talked into moving there from Portland to take a job. Thought I'd move into a loft and be one of the whites supposedly gentrifying Detroit. I lasted 3 days. 3 whole days.

I now know how the fallen angels felt when they were cast of heaven into hell.

by Anonymousreply 5209/09/2013

'Splain please R52.

by Anonymousreply 5309/10/2013

Lawrence, Kansas is a great place to live. Arkansas, OTOH, is not. Any of it.

by Anonymousreply 5409/10/2013

The south.

by Anonymousreply 5509/10/2013

R9 obviously has never spent the night in French Lick, Indiana.


Oklahoma, even though Oklahoma City's Wiggly Field Dog Park is "recognized as being among the best of its kind."

Utah, on principle. Same for Alabama and Mississippi, away from their coasts.

North Dakota, unless you really like solitude, cold, hear, and a dialect that will leave you wanting to take wire cutters to nearby tongues.

I'd say St. Louis, but I live in St. Louis, and it's proof that even the worst places often reveal assets and benefits to residents that are not obvious to visitors.

by Anonymousreply 5609/10/2013

Rockford, Illinois has made it to the top of many important city rankings.

Fourth fattest.

Third most violent.

Third most miserable (after Detroit and Flint. Unfair advantage there.)

Finally made it to number one in most underwater mortgages.

by Anonymousreply 5709/10/2013

Pretty much anywhere between the Indiana border and the Rocky Mountains (The Central Time Zone) with the following exceptions:

1. Chicago and anywhere within a 60 minute drive of Chicago except Rockford and anywhere in Indiana.

2. St. Louis and the immediate suburbs (I'm talking Clayton, University City and the like--not fucking St. Charles).

3. New Orleans

4. Minneapolis/St. Paul

5. The college towns of Madison, WI, Manhattan, KS, Lawrence, KS, Lincoln, NE, Bloomington, IL, Brookings, SD and Ames, IA.

6. Austin, TX (I have my doubts, but others on here have made a good case).

7. In a pinch Kansas City, MO would be tolerable because of the good restaurants and beautiful parks, but it is surrounded by horrible places like Overland Park, KS.

by Anonymousreply 5809/10/2013

Not Denver/Boulder?

by Anonymousreply 5909/10/2013

[quote]Not Denver/Boulder?

Outside the Central Time Zone, and in the Rocky Mountains, so they're fine.

by Anonymousreply 6009/10/2013

The anti-Chicago troll must have been killed in a gang shoot-out in Austin or Englewood.

by Anonymousreply 6109/10/2013

The only way I would ever even consider Florida is if I had gobs of money and could afford West Palm, Bal Harbor, Key Biscayne or other wealthy enclaves. I could never live in the "regular" areas of Florida.

by Anonymousreply 6209/10/2013

Get the app.

by Anonymousreply 6309/10/2013

Most of Michigan seems unpleasant to me. Crappy weather. Hardly any people in the upper peninsula and lots of violence in the lower peninsula. And "pasties" (with are nothing to do with nipples) advertised throughout most of it.

by Anonymousreply 6409/10/2013

Yeah, money is key. With enough money anywhere can be ok. If you've ever vacationed in Jamaica or somewhere, if you rent a private house you can live like a king for a reasonable amount of money. You'll have house staff taking care of you and stuff. But you'll also be in a guarded compound. They apparently have that in South Africa. That Pristorius or whatever his name is apparently lived in a walled, guarded compound (multi-house, not just his).

by Anonymousreply 6509/10/2013

I live in Tulsa. Not really like there rest of Oklahoma out proud and never a problem. Also we have had a gay pride parade longer than 99% of you. Now OKC is a shit hole. Basically we call it far north Texas.

by Anonymousreply 6609/10/2013

I live in Indiana and can testify that yes it is sucky and depressing to live here. I have been here most of my life and would love to leave one day but this is where all of me and my husbands family live. Sigh.

But what's bad about Virginia?? I was in Richmond over the summer and thought it would be a great place to live.

by Anonymousreply 6710/19/2013

R15 proved the inherent stupidity of all self-identifying "nazis."

by Anonymousreply 6810/19/2013

I've been around, and I would say western Nebraska, Kansas, all of the Dakotas (if you're not native American), Alabama and Mississippi away from the coast, anywhere in the Great Lakes region except upper Michigan, and any other place that has elected a Tea Party congressperson.

by Anonymousreply 6910/19/2013

R70, it's too late, baby, now it's too late.

by Anonymousreply 7010/19/2013

Indiana is okay but Milwaukee isn't? Dumkopf!

by Anonymousreply 7110/19/2013

Oh, hell. Gary for sure. In fact Indiana, for sure. Don't forget Mississippi, Alabama, Texas, Louisiana, Oklahoma, Arkansas, North Dakota, South Dakota, West Virginia, in fact all of the area known as Appalachia, parts of Pennsylvania, Massachusetts, and New Jersey. Talk about Gary, but have you been to Trenton? Parts of New Mexico, Arizona, Utah, Wyoming, Montana, Kansas, Missouri.

We have so much work to do to get these parts of our country up and running. We can't write them off, because among other things, it ends up being too expensive to carry them. They are a drag. Sometimes I wish the President had the power to declare martial law and quarantine people for political stupidity.

I'd go down to say, Mississippi, and do that. Make them get healthcare, force them to go to accredited schools, and learn stuff they are "scared of" now. Put them to work building and rebuilding infrastructure, and housing, and teach them about computers.

You'd be shocked to know how many people don't know the first thing about computers. I'd force them to go to the library and make them read and discuss things, teach them how to speak properly. Make them seem more like humans.

by Anonymousreply 7210/19/2013

Anywhere downwind from Yellowstone

by Anonymousreply 7310/19/2013

Oh please, it's Oklahoma in a walk. Imagine being the poor cousin of Texas. It doesn't get any worse. Nothing of interest geographically--mostly flat. And the wind does indeed come sweeping down the plain--all the fucking time. Bitter winters. Miserable summers. Hardcore right-wing politics. I was there in the '80s for a few weeks and their gay pride parade was held in the alley behind the gay bars.

by Anonymousreply 7410/19/2013

Nevada. Dusty, dry, hot, cold, piece of nowhere.

by Anonymousreply 7510/19/2013

I nominate the entire state of New Jersey.

by Anonymousreply 7610/19/2013

South Carolina. They have the craziest politicians and crazy bible issues. It's like they still believe that shit.

by Anonymousreply 7710/19/2013

The point is that, with a lot of these states, maybe there's one city that's famous or cool, and the rest of the state is not only geographically uninteresting, but the towns and the rural areas are blighted.

by Anonymousreply 7810/19/2013

South Dakota - The poorest places in the United States are here. Even early immigrants couldn't stand it and headed west, even when their original plan was to settle in SD.


South Carolina


Idaho - Besides the crazy neo-nazis, there's a lot more crazy mormons here. Eastern Idaho, especially Burley, Malta, and Pocatello are just absolute dumps.


by Anonymousreply 7910/19/2013

Kansas, cult central.

by Anonymousreply 8010/19/2013

South Carolina at least has Charleston which is a nice city.

Indiana, Oklahoma, and West Virginia are irremediable shit holes.

by Anonymousreply 8110/19/2013

R42, California's Central Valley is about 400 feet above sea level in the south, 200 feet above sea level in the north. There is little danger of it becoming an inland sea. (Not that anyone would want to live there outside of the farmers.)

by Anonymousreply 8210/19/2013

Virginia. Virginia. Virginia. Stay away there are too many crazy hillbillies here.

by Anonymousreply 8310/19/2013

Northern Virginia is one of the highest concentrations of cultured educated professionals in the country.

by Anonymousreply 8410/19/2013

Northern VA is not really 'Virginia'. Hell, even some of Richmond and some of the Norfolk area aren't. It's hilarious to see places like Haymarket becoming part of the DC suburbs, and the wealthy educated types you're talking about having to mix it up with the rednecks. Quite the culture clash. That idiot Cuccinelli better not win here. Lord knows this state has done dumber things, though.

by Anonymousreply 8510/19/2013

I thank MA for Mittens R35 Not at all hard to defeat. Anyone with half a brain recognized a kindred soul

by Anonymousreply 8610/19/2013

I'd trade the worst shithole in the United Sates for Caracas any day

by Anonymousreply 8710/19/2013

Norwich, CT. Also, New London, CT.

by Anonymousreply 8810/19/2013

Appleton, WI.

by Anonymousreply 8910/19/2013

Anywhere South.

by Anonymousreply 9010/19/2013

Bangor, Maine, home and inspirational muse to Stephen King , literally the last city on the I-95, in the middle of absolutely nowhere.

Ugly, inbred hillbillies who have the worst accent in the USA.

by Anonymousreply 9110/19/2013
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