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Bisexual - Gay.

My mom says I'm bi.

Sure, I get along with women much better.

But they don't even give me a semi, so....I'm not bi.

by Anonymousreply 7009/25/2013

I was bisexual, but the gays always call me gay. Just goes to show you they claim gross guys, too!

by Anonymousreply 109/20/2013

With all due respect, r2, I certainly had quite a few issues!

by Anonymousreply 309/20/2013

'No labels' is the new Bi for the next generation OP.

by Anonymousreply 409/20/2013

How old are you, OP? When I first came out as a teen, my mom said that if I was even a little bi or had any inklings of attraction to women, she hoped I'd choose to end up with a woman rather than a man - it was her resisting my coming out and looking for an escape / out so she wouldn't have to confront my actually being gay. Over time I got her to accept that I was gay and couldn't see myself in a romantic relationship with a woman, and she doesn't bring up any "bi" crap anymore.

And yeah, "getting along with women much better" has nothing to do with it - I got along with women great for friendships (as do many gay men, since there's no sexual tension or conflict involved); that has nothing to do with sexuality.

by Anonymousreply 509/20/2013

Your mother should have absolutely no say in the matter

by Anonymousreply 609/20/2013

R2 what bullshit... Goes to show how damaging internalised homophobia is.

More alpha ? If you mean that the ones who are effectively sex tourists treat gay men with disrespect, I'd agree. But that's not 'alpha', it's fucked up. If you mean they only let you suck their dick, don't kiss, and won't get fucked, ditto.

More of an identity ? If you mean they run away and pass for straight when despunked, then see above. If you mean that, for you, the fact they fuck women too makes them superior in any way, them you're fucked up too. It doesn't, but gay men have been put down and told they weren't real men for so long that maybe you feel pussyfuckers are more than you. They aren't.

Less issues ? As Grandma would say, ROFLMAO.

I've met a few bi guys who were fun and hot. But too often they have poor hygiene, don't get the idea of douching, are fucked up, pass for straight when it benefits them, and are not as good at gay sex as gay men are. And I've had more support in my life from heterosexual men who are comfortable with themselves than from bi guys. Very few bi guys I've met are radical and willing to challenge the status quo: apologies to those who are nothing like what I've written here, but it's very much based on experience. Give me a clean, hot, out gay man in bed.

by Anonymousreply 909/20/2013

Give me Nick Jonas.

by Anonymousreply 1009/20/2013

R11 = very sad person who thinks that using oejorative terms bout another will cover up their own ssues.

by Anonymousreply 1209/20/2013

* pejorative

by Anonymousreply 1309/20/2013

OP is not a faggot! And I'm just the dame to prove it!

by Anonymousreply 1709/20/2013

Your mother has no idea what she's talking about. Seriously.

by Anonymousreply 1909/20/2013

I came out as bi to my mom. She said she'd be happier if I were gay because it would mean I would be less promiscuous.

It was my mom who had issues.

by Anonymousreply 2009/20/2013

Have you ever had a relationship with a man, r22, or just "liaisons"?

by Anonymousreply 2409/20/2013

R22, what did your mom say when you told her you were bi?

How did your co-workers react when they found out?

Did your neighbors treat you differently when your boyfriend moved in?


[crickets chirping]


Exactly. I'm so sick of "bi" people claiming victimhood when nearly every single one is just another kind of closet-case playing straight when it suits them.

Do I believe you can like cock and pussy? Yes, I do, and I can see how that can be a complicated orientation. But don't come to a gay website and claim victimhood when you spend 99% of your life reaping hetero privilege and 0% fighting for equal rights or visibility.

by Anonymousreply 2609/20/2013

So dudes are like a sexual fetish to you. And this makes you special how?

by Anonymousreply 2809/20/2013

You sound pretty typical from what I've seen/heard, r27. Women are for real relationships with you guys, and men are for fucking only.

by Anonymousreply 2909/20/2013

OP tell your mother "You're right. I'm bisexual. I like men and boys."

by Anonymousreply 3209/20/2013

R15 = Joseph Sciambra

by Anonymousreply 3409/20/2013

R34, that's some seriously fucked up shit. Thanks for the heads up.

by Anonymousreply 3609/20/2013

When a friend came out to his mother, she said she hoped he'd find someone handsomer than her daughter's husband.

by Anonymousreply 3709/20/2013

I like Anon but anal. He is Honest but honorable.

by Anonymousreply 3909/20/2013

[quote]Whereas with women on other hand,it is something that comes so easily to me that I don't even need to think twice about it.I'm not going to deny that I love women and everything that they have to offer.

Bitch please. Most of the bisexual dudes here have already stated what r29 said. You take up with women because that is an easier life. Yeah, you love vagina. You also like it because its convenient for a number of purposes, and you might get some children out of deal. Please don't deny that. You better bet that when these women get fat or old, bi dudes will be getting fucked by men until its appropriate for them to find another vagina, or they get tired of dealing with gay men. And some of you like fem bottom guys, you just pretend you are fucking vagina when you have sex with them. Most fem dudes really get off on that, that is why the sex usually ends up being explosive.

And Im saying all of this as a guy who likes vagina sometimes, but chooses not have relationships with women. I get sick of bi dudes in relationships with women just because of all the things they hate about gay men. You talk about your wives or girlfriends like cum receptacles to provide pleasure for you. You worship yourselves for abstaining from sex with men. And then the man you decide to fuck is supposed be lucky because he is the one privileged enough to have your discriminating dick? That is so fucked up. Being able to "keep it in your pants" is not something that makes you a great person. That is something humans usually do when they truly love someone, and you shouldn't want attention for that.

by Anonymousreply 4009/20/2013


by Anonymousreply 4109/20/2013

R42 If this isn't the "Things Only Assholes Say," thread, let me be the first to tell you you're an asshole.

by Anonymousreply 4309/20/2013

Bisexuality =

Homosexual pleasure


Heterosexual privilege.

by Anonymousreply 4609/20/2013

I believe the Kinsey model of sexual orientation (a scale of 0-6, straight to homosexual, with bisexual in between.) I believe that, theoretically, the vast majority of people are between these two extremes, so technically bisexual, though they have a clear preference for one or the other.

This does NOT mean that they desire, or even consider, sex with the other gender. Just that it is theoretically possible. Those who land toward the middle (3.0) on the scale are more likely to be bisexual, though other factors come into play.

Years ago, I worked on a gay hotline, where a large percentage of the calls were from guys who considered themselves bisexual, even though their clear preference was other men. They didn't understand that a gay man can still be friends with a woman, and even appreciate one's beauty to some extent.

Some would ask about my past experiences, and I'd admit that I have had sexual relationships with women in my past, but consider myself to be gay. That would trigger an argument that I "must" be bisexual, since I have had sex with both genders. I point out that I have also ridden a horse, but that doesn't make me a cowboy. :)

by Anonymousreply 4709/20/2013

Blah blah blah R48. In the real world bisexual refers to preference not orientation, and is only applicable to a few people.

by Anonymousreply 4909/20/2013

R15, show me the sign that says "DataLounge: Get your fix of neurotic fence sitters unloading their sad and terrible baggage."

by Anonymousreply 5009/21/2013

R2 was drunk when he posted all that shit.

I know, I've been known to hit the sauce now and again.

by Anonymousreply 5109/21/2013

[all posts by tedious troll removed.]

by Anonymousreply 5509/21/2013

R22 Dear man, you are the queerest queer who ever queered his way into the DL.

by Anonymousreply 5609/21/2013

Almost every single DL thread that has some reference to bisexuality inevitably turns into a bi bashing fest. I'm always baffled at how biphobic gay men have still not realized that what they are doing to us is exactly what crazy Christian radicals have been doing to them all along. If that does not qualify as reverse discrimination then I don't know what is.

I don't blame previous posters for reacting the way they have. Just look at the biphobic remarks being tossed around here. It is almost as if we bi men are one big joke who should be gagged because a few DL biphobic posters are now the sole leading authority on human sexuality. If gay men were on the receiving end of such hate there is no way that they would allow a thread that seeks to invalidate who they are. You do not have the right to denounce bisexual & transgendered individuals without ever having walked a mile in our shoes. Just like I can’t pass judgment on those who identify otherwise because I don’t know what it is to be them.

Ever recall how homophobes said that being gay is just a phase that you will soon outgrow & you will eventually like women? Or that gays cannot be trusted? It is laughable yet remarkable just how strikingly similar the comparisons are when you consider the constant negative reception that we bi men have received from both the homosexual & hetero communities. How can we also forget that biphobes use generalizations & stereotypes in their bid to further increase our already marginalized status. One just has to take a look at previous posts which have associated bisexual men with being promiscuous unclean closet cases who pass for straight whenever they feel like. Now do we really have to gloss over the numerous mostly false stereotypes associated with gays & lesbians which to an extent mirror those labels assigned to bisexuals [insert here]?

Did it ever occur to you that just like you don’t have a choice with whom you fall in love with & find sexually attractive neither do we? I have been aware of my bisexual tendencies since the day I pretty much discovered my sexuality. I had all kinds of relationships with both women & men. I eventually met & fell in love with my then future wife on the eve of my 29th birthday & we have been together for 16 years in total; married for 10. We are also parents to 3 amazing beautiful children who have shown me the true meaning of unconditional love. My wife who is straight has been privy to my sexuality way before we even contemplated the thought of walking down the aisle all those years ago. She was more open to accepting & loving me for who I really was as a person than what I’d expected. I used to run a bi support group up until a few years ago & she used to attend & occasionally facilitate meetings just to support me. Bisexual men are very much capable of being in loving committed monogamous relationships & my marriage is one such example of this.

The idea of bi men having sex with women always strikes a nerve with the biphobic misogynists. I recall being asked by an intrigued non judgmental male lover about the kind of sexual positions I used w/ women. He’d assumed that strap ons, role play , gay porn & anything else that resembles being with a man must be a fixture. He was shocked yet accepting to find that I enjoyed vaginal oral sex & intercourse w/ women & still received similar levels of intense sexual gratification. Whoever said that bi men kid themselves into imagining that they are fucking a man during those times they are with a woman just adds to the already long list of what else they don’t understand about bisexuality as well as some intense psychological issues with the fairer sex.

I am all for equal rights as everyone should be entitled to live & love any way that they choose. At the same time us bisexuals & transgendered individuals are fighting a constant uphill battle in the face of being bombarded with repeated reverse prejudice from the gay & lesbian community. I’d attended pride events in the past & know a few other bisexuals who still do. Any sight of our bi pride flag is still met with ambivalence by some people. But that’s just one part of it because we then find ourselves being discriminated against by the heterosexual population. I disclosed my sexuality to my closest family & friends long ago but still acceptance & tolerance is undoubtedly in the lower ranges if you are bisexual. If you are with a man then you are most definitely gay and if you are with a woman you are living behind a façade as a straight man. No one knows how it feels to feel like there is something deeply wrong with you when you find yourself being sexually attracted to people of both genders & then made to feel like a total outcast by most people you thought would actually stand by you because you are meant to share similar struggles. After all the “G” in LGBT is not there to occupy space for nothing.

by Anonymousreply 5709/21/2013

R2 , R15, R16, FEWER issues, not LESS issues. What difference does it make? Well, I can't take the arguments of the undereducated as seriously.

by Anonymousreply 5809/21/2013

r57, how do you manage having sex with other men? Does your wife get involved or does she prefer not to?

by Anonymousreply 6009/21/2013

Look at Hissssss Jr. at R59!

by Anonymousreply 6109/21/2013

To get back the OP (who doesn't claim to actually be bisexual)

Tell your mom that you know you're gay because you actually understand her and all her friends - which you certainly wouldn't if you were straight.

by Anonymousreply 6209/21/2013

Que sera, sera...

by Anonymousreply 6309/21/2013

OP's Mother is Doris Day!!!!

She should understand perfectly.

by Anonymousreply 6409/21/2013

r59 ran off all the bi dudes

by Anonymousreply 6509/23/2013

your mom feels better by saying you're bi. it gives her hope that you might one day "grow out of your phase" and have a child to carry on the family name. Dear Mom, your son is gay. Accept it.

by Anonymousreply 6609/23/2013

ATTENTION ALL LADIES, FAG HAGS, BISEXUALS AND BICURIOUS FEMALES: If a man tells you he's bisexual, he's GAY. What you must understand is that gay men will not "change their minds" and even those who are BI still have a preference to one gender over the other. Men are very promiscuous so when they tell you they are bi, they are fucking lots of people and you probably don't want to get involved, as they tend to contract lots of Venereal Diseases and HIV runs rampant. Not hating, just stating the reality. BI = gay. Don't say noone ever told you.

by Anonymousreply 6709/23/2013

Total bullshit, r67, I'm not bi but I was just reading the bi forum (I think it was link from DL) and I find it really interesting. I find it fascinating in a way, honestly, their sexuality seems completely foreign to me. Listening to them talk about 'discovering' a same-sex attraction well into adulthood or how their attraction for men/women can change yearly, monthly or even daily. They make it very clear that straight/gay (or as they refer to us 'monosexuals') can never truly understand their experiences, and judging from the forum they are absolutely right, I don't get it, it's completely outside my realm of experience.

Just to be clear, that doesn't make it bad or wrong or any thing like that, but I'm honest enough to say that it does put me off ever getting into a relationship with a bi man. I'm just too linear and 'black/white' a thinker for it to work. Oh, but the reason I called bullshit on your post r67 is because on the forum it's clear that the vast majority of the bi guys prefer women. Indeed many of them speak of their attraction to men in purely sexual terms, almost like a fetish.

by Anonymousreply 6809/24/2013

[all posts by flame bait troll #11 removed (violent racist homophobic right-wing misogynist), ISP notified with full text of all posts.]

by Anonymousreply 6909/24/2013

r67, r68 I might be going out on a limb here, but the truly bisexual guys Ive known were very physically attractive. My theory is that bisexual men are just very attractive people who also happen to be hyper-sexual. They use all the attention they get from both males and females to satisfy the hyper-sexuality.

People in Brazil don't even think twice about bisexuality, and it's a no brainer why they don't. They are considered some of the best looking people in world, so it makes sense that bisexuality is common there. Not saying that being hot goes hand in hand with being bi, but when you have more attractive people in one place, the chances that more of them are acting on their sexual compulsiveness is greater.

by Anonymousreply 7009/25/2013
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