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Common Datalounge grammar and usage errors
|by Anonymous||reply 111||07/14/2014|
OP; Good one on pointing out the last one especially.
|by Anonymous||reply 1||09/05/2013|
|by Anonymous||reply 2||09/05/2013|
"I seen" for "I saw", "I have seen", or "I've seen" ... this is the one that irritates me the most, I instantly think less of someone the second it comes out of their mouth.
|by Anonymous||reply 3||09/05/2013|
Use to for used to.
|by Anonymous||reply 4||09/05/2013|
"Myself" instead of "Me".
|by Anonymous||reply 5||09/05/2013|
[quote]Use to for used to.
I've seen this so often that I finally looked it up to be sure I wasn't wrong.
|by Anonymous||reply 6||09/05/2013|
"OP" for "insightful witty person"
|by Anonymous||reply 7||09/05/2013|
|by Anonymous||reply 8||09/05/2013|
"OP" for someone who is worth responding to.
|by Anonymous||reply 9||09/05/2013|
Those examples are mostly spelling errors, not grammar or usage errors.
|by Anonymous||reply 10||09/05/2013|
"it's" for "its" and vice versa.
"prolly" instead of "probably"
|by Anonymous||reply 11||09/05/2013|
I've seen a lot of "led/lead" weirdness lately.
There's another one that's been bugging me but of course now I can't think of it.
|by Anonymous||reply 12||09/05/2013|
Using "that" where "who" would be correct.....Drives me bananas!
|by Anonymous||reply 13||09/05/2013|
"I could care less" for "I couldn't care less"
|by Anonymous||reply 14||09/05/2013|
"Should have went." I hear that ALL the time these days.
|by Anonymous||reply 15||09/05/2013|
"hes" instead of "his"
|by Anonymous||reply 16||09/05/2013|
Definately - should be "definitely"
|by Anonymous||reply 17||09/05/2013|
"Your" for "you're.". It's kind of ironic that homos can't do homophones.
|by Anonymous||reply 18||09/05/2013|
R17, I see "defiantly" for "definitely." Ugh
|by Anonymous||reply 19||09/05/2013|
Using "discrete" instead of "discreet."
"Discreet" means private, under the radar, careful. As in, a discreet conversation.
"Discrete" means individual, detached, separated. As in, earthquakes were recorded in small, discrete clusters.
|by Anonymous||reply 20||09/05/2013|
This Slate article is appropriately linked here.
|by Anonymous||reply 21||09/05/2013|
R20, I laugh when I see a CL ad saying, "Must be discrete." I always want to answer and ask them, "What do you mean exactly?"
|by Anonymous||reply 22||09/05/2013|
Those who make these mistakes are not going to bother reading this thread (sadly).
|by Anonymous||reply 23||09/05/2013|
I'm expecting someone to respond with "Die in a Greece fire."
|by Anonymous||reply 24||09/05/2013|
Irregardless of the regardless-isity thing, or whatever.
|by Anonymous||reply 25||09/06/2013|
I love R13
|by Anonymous||reply 26||09/06/2013|
"entitled" for "possessing a sense of entitlement".
It's everywhere and it drives me NUTS!
|by Anonymous||reply 27||09/06/2013|
Using "drug" as the past tense for "to drag."
Saying things like, "Him and his friends went out" or "Me and my sister walked away." There's a very easy rule for this. Remove the second person and say the sentence as if only one person is involved in the action.
"Him went out."
"Me walked away. "
You see? It doesn't work.
So it's "He and his friends," not "Him and his friends." And "My sister and I walked away," not "Me and my sister."
|by Anonymous||reply 28||09/06/2013|
"Old bitties," has appeared again.
|by Anonymous||reply 29||09/06/2013|
Very commonly I see "orientated" and "disorientated."
It's "oriented" and "disoriented."
I was grossed out recently by a news article saying that it traffic was shut down for several hours while first responders "extricated" the deceased driver from the car. First, I wondered why there is even a word "extricated" when "extracted" means the same thing. Second, I really think they could have worded that a little more sensitively. Traffic could have been shut down while the deceased was removed from the scene.
|by Anonymous||reply 30||09/06/2013|
I've noticed that when some "should of" people get an "Oh, dear," they have no idea what's wrong.
|by Anonymous||reply 31||09/06/2013|
a lot. Dammit it is two words. A LOT. not alot.
|by Anonymous||reply 32||09/06/2013|
[quote]"entitled" for "possessing a sense of entitlement".
r27, how about we just stop saying that? You bitches need to find a new insult anyway, this one has been done to death.
|by Anonymous||reply 33||09/06/2013|
[quote]"entitled" for "possessing a sense of entitlement".
Huh? That usage is perfectly legit. OTOH, it bugs me when I see it used instead of "titled" in context of a book, movie, etc.
|by Anonymous||reply 34||09/06/2013|
I just saw a post today that used "who's" instead of the proper "whose."
And don't get me started on "lie" vs. "lay."
|by Anonymous||reply 35||09/06/2013|
[quote]You [bold]bitches[/bold] need to find a new insult anyway
That's right on target, Jackass.
|by Anonymous||reply 36||09/06/2013|
Perfectly legit? No, it isn't. "Entitled" means "justified in receiving something", or "genuinely owed something", as in "a worker is entitled to his wages", not "believing oneself to be entitled". The term for that is "having a sense of entitlement" or "feeling entitled".
I hate misuse of this word because it destroys the word by distorting its meaning, taking a useful word out of the English language. Now no one can use it anymore because it has a different, incorrect meaning which makes no sense.
Also, it contradicts what the speaker actually wants to say, which is that the person is not really entitled to what they seem to think they are. So it makes the speaker sound like an idiot:
"Oh that Gwyneth Paltrow is so entitled". She is? Then why are you bitching about her?
|by Anonymous||reply 37||09/06/2013|
The "doggie dog world" is really common. I see it on more and more message boards. It makes me wonder what people think they are saying. "It's a doggie dog world" doesn't mean anything.
|by Anonymous||reply 38||09/06/2013|
Thank you, R20, that was the other one that's been bugging me that I couldn't think of earlier.
|by Anonymous||reply 39||09/06/2013|
Maybe the speaker means that there are invisible quote marks around the word entitled, thus meaning he means it ironically or sarcastically.
|by Anonymous||reply 40||09/06/2013|
[quote]First, I wondered why there is even a word "extricated" when "extracted" means the same thing.
First, have you never heard of synonyms? Many English words have identical or similar meanings.
Second, "extract" and "extricate" really don't mean the same thing. To extract something is to remove it from the larger whole that it is part of, as in extracting the juice from an orange. To extricate something is to remove something that is stuck inside something else (but unlike juice in an orange, does not belong there), as in extricating a dead body from a totaled car, a fat man from a too-small chair, your head from your ass, etc.
|by Anonymous||reply 41||09/06/2013|
Nah, r40, if you've spent any time on DL, you should have seen that dozens or more posters here think "entitled" and "possessing a FALSE sense of entitlement" mean the same thing, when in fact they have opposite meanings.
|by Anonymous||reply 42||09/06/2013|
Snuck for sneaked.
|by Anonymous||reply 43||09/06/2013|
'Presently' to describe something happening now. Currently is correct.
|by Anonymous||reply 44||09/06/2013|
r44, "currently" might be correct for your writing style. They mean the same thing.
|by Anonymous||reply 45||09/06/2013|
Boring instead of BORING!
|by Anonymous||reply 46||09/06/2013|
Yes, r44, "presently" can mean either "soon" or "currently." As the link below notes, many people mistakenly believe that the latter usage is incorrect, but it's really not.
|by Anonymous||reply 47||09/06/2013|
That hanged is the past tense of hang when referring to the act of hanging some one. He was hanged for stealing a goat, not he was hung for stealing a goat, otherwise people would be stealing a lot of goats.
|by Anonymous||reply 48||09/06/2013|
[quote]Very commonly I see "orientated" and "disorientated." It's "oriented" and "disoriented."
In the US, yes. But "orientated" and "disorientated" are widely used in the UK, Ireland, Australia and New Zealand.
|by Anonymous||reply 49||09/06/2013|
"Hanged" vs. "hung" is pretty minor compared to the grammatical disaster you've wrought is just two short almost-sentences, r48.
|by Anonymous||reply 50||09/06/2013|
I think most of the grammatical errors made on DL are by the same one or two people.
Get ready for a lot more. My son and his friends don't care one bit for spelling or grammar and their schools couldn't care less. They're never marked wrong. Spelling doesn't count. Grammar doesn't count. It's their IDEAS that are important, they say. And their teachers agree.
Frankly, I don't think their teachers understand grammar and spelling rules. They are some of the stupidest people I've ever met. Could be the school district. You have to inherit a job with the school district. You can't apply and be hired because you're the best candidate.
|by Anonymous||reply 51||09/06/2013|
[quote]Frankly, I don't think their teachers understand grammar and spelling rules.
High school students who read at a 5th grade level go on to college. They continue through college at the same reading level. Before you know it, they're teachers.
|by Anonymous||reply 52||09/06/2013|
[quote]compared to the grammatical disaster you've wrought is just two short almost-sentences
Oops. Speaking of grammatical disasters, that should have been "IN just two short sentences."
|by Anonymous||reply 53||09/06/2013|
What state is this, R52?
|by Anonymous||reply 54||09/06/2013|
[quote] It makes me wonder what people think they are saying. "It's a doggie dog world" doesn't mean anything.
Most people DON'T think about what they're writing. They simply repeat what they think they heard somewhere, without bothering to reason it out. I'm a college teacher, and I'm amazed by the common words and phrases that students get wrong. I recently had a student write a paper accusing the media of always "sugar coding" the truth.
|by Anonymous||reply 55||09/06/2013|
One of the worst:
"If I would have known..."
|by Anonymous||reply 56||09/06/2013|
'cruelty' for 'kindness' or 'compassion.'
|by Anonymous||reply 57||09/06/2013|
That's an improvement, although a "sense of entitlement" stands alone as a pervasive attitude which goes beyond any true entitlement in any individual situation.
It never appears in print with quotation marks. I guess I could give the benefit of the doubt to verbal speakers and give SOME ease to the grammatical stick up my butt.
|by Anonymous||reply 58||09/06/2013|
r36, "jackass" is not a proper noun, you jackass.
|by Anonymous||reply 59||09/06/2013|
"Amount" used for count nouns: "the amount of people"
|by Anonymous||reply 60||09/06/2013|
[quote]Perfectly legit? No, it isn't. "Entitled" means "justified in receiving something", or "genuinely owed something", as in "a worker is entitled to his wages", not "believing oneself to be entitled". The term for that is "having a sense of entitlement" or "feeling entitled".
[quote]I hate misuse of this word because it destroys the word by distorting its meaning, taking a useful word out of the English language. Now no one can use it anymore because it has a different, incorrect meaning which makes no sense.
Language changes. Deal with it.
|by Anonymous||reply 61||09/06/2013|
"Change out" or "change up" for "change."
|by Anonymous||reply 62||09/06/2013|
"Sign off" for "sign".
This is one of the most annoying for me! You "sign off" a radio broadcast; you "sign" a paper.
|by Anonymous||reply 63||09/06/2013|
R63- But you can sign off on a project.
|by Anonymous||reply 64||09/06/2013|
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|by Anonymous||reply 65||09/06/2013|
"Continue on". "Continue" is sufficient.
|by Anonymous||reply 66||09/06/2013|
Using "too" or "as well" when you mean "either."
"I didn't like him as well."
|by Anonymous||reply 67||09/06/2013|
Many people don't know when to use "effect" and "affect" properly.
When in doubt, just keep "effect" strictly a noun, and "affect" strictly a verb, and save yourself the embarrassment.
|by Anonymous||reply 68||09/06/2013|
r45, At present, means now. Presently is in the near future.
|by Anonymous||reply 69||09/06/2013|
R61 seems to think that language changes on its own, like mold growing on old bread -- can't be prevented, bound to happen over time, we just have to put up with it!
The type of change being complained about here is not caused by some inexorable force of nature, it's the result of ignoramuses making mistakes that are perpetuated by other careless users. Educated people with standards need not accept such sloppiness merely because it's widespread.
The concept of language evolution does not refer to mere change, but to progress, such as good slang & new words that meet a need. "Uptight" is an onomatopetic term for "tense" -- "google" as a verb is an efficient way to say "use a search engine to find information about a subject on the internet". Those words are creative and serve a purpose -- mumbo jumbo such as "irregardless" and "I could care less" are just plain errors and will never be anything more no matter how many illiterate people repeat them.
|by Anonymous||reply 70||09/06/2013|
|by Anonymous||reply 71||09/06/2013|
[quote]"Should of" for "should have"
There is an exception where "should of" is gleefully acceptable:
"I should of went"
|by Anonymous||reply 72||09/06/2013|
[quote] mumbo jumbo such as "irregardless" and "I could care less" are just plain errors and will never be anything more no matter how many illiterate people repeat them
Not completely true. Many barbarisms (for instance, "gonna", "wanna" in spoken English, and "Could I have a soda?" used to mean "May I...")do eventually find a way into acceptance in the language. Moreover, egregiously incorrect syntax (or solecisms), like ending a sentence in a preposition, also can get a pass, due to common usage ("due to" is another example!).
It's just that purists like me just have to put up with them and cringe while the change is happening. I suggest you do the same. "Could care less" is already there. On the other hand, redundancies like "irregardless", or "I don't know nobody" will never make the transition.
|by Anonymous||reply 73||09/06/2013|
The one I'm seeing everywhere lately is "payed." I get that some words are commonly misspelled, but why is it that people suddenly start misspelling the same word in the same way?
|by Anonymous||reply 74||09/06/2013|
R73, of course the world is fraught with bad behavior of many kinds. I know I can't prevent it, but that doesn't mean I have to engage in it myself, & I'm free to look down on those who do.
Whichever biblical character it was who cautioned us against judging others was not referring to sins of grammar (in which I include syntax, usage, spelling, & punctuation).
By the way: Sept. 24 is National Punctuation Day!
|by Anonymous||reply 75||09/06/2013|
The stupidest kid on my block became a teacher. He was left back twice. He went to a state college that specialized in teaching kids with learning disabilities. He married the daughter of the local school district superintendent.
|by Anonymous||reply 76||09/06/2013|
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|by Anonymous||reply 77||09/06/2013|
Adding apostrophes for no reason. Eg. The Obama's are a stunning couple.
Using "then" rather than "than". Eg. I like peanuts much better then cashews.
Drives me crazy.
|by Anonymous||reply 78||09/06/2013|
Let's add "per say" to "doggie dog" and "sugar coding." Are those are technically all mondgreens, or does mondegreen only apply to misheard song lyrics?
|by Anonymous||reply 79||09/06/2013|
|by Anonymous||reply 80||09/06/2013|
[quote]"I don't know nobody" will never make the transition.
I ain't never got nothin' from nobody, no time!
And until I get somethin' from somebody, sometime,
I don't intend to do nothin' for nobody, no time!
|by Anonymous||reply 81||09/06/2013|
[quote] "Wah lah!"
Oh Lord, when I see this one I want to crawl under a rock on behalf of the poor soul who uttered it.
|by Anonymous||reply 82||09/07/2013|
"then" for "than"
"He's gayer then me"
|by Anonymous||reply 83||09/07/2013|
Just slightly off topic but I'm driven insane by the standard American broadcast pronunciation of DRAMATIC. They pronounce it "drurr-matic". The over-pronounce an 'r' where no 'r' exists!
|by Anonymous||reply 84||09/07/2013|
Using "myself" instead of "me" or "I."
|by Anonymous||reply 85||09/07/2013|
"based off" instead of "based on"
|by Anonymous||reply 86||09/07/2013|
R85 I'm noticing that happening everywhere these days, and it seems to cut across generations too. WTF is up with that?
|by Anonymous||reply 87||09/07/2013|
Wahlah=Voila? Doggie dog=dog eat dog?
"Must of" for "must've" or "must have"
I've dropped a few corkers in my posts from time to time, but it's pointless to offer up a correction, just take your whacks from Mme. Eaux Deere and carry on.
|by Anonymous||reply 88||09/07/2013|
R85 and R87: I live in Ireland, and over here the "myself" thing is very common and has been around for ages. It's used by all generations: "You will be meeting with Ann and myself." Some misguided people may use it because they think it sounds more "elegant" or modest than "me," but it's debatable whether it is actually incorrect. Like I said, it is fairly ingrained in Hiberno-English. I even know a guy who refers to his wife as "herself."
|by Anonymous||reply 89||09/07/2013|
Site is a place Sight is vision
|by Anonymous||reply 90||09/07/2013|
'FANK YOU' For Thank you.
|by Anonymous||reply 91||09/07/2013|
People on DL often use "straight" when they really mean "bi" or "gay".
|by Anonymous||reply 92||09/07/2013|
[quote]Some misguided people may use it because they think it sounds more "elegant" or modest than "me," but it's debatable whether it is actually incorrect.
No, it's not debatable; it is actually, definitely incorrect.
|by Anonymous||reply 93||09/07/2013|
Using anxious when a person means eager. And nauseous for nauseated.
|by Anonymous||reply 94||09/07/2013|
"As far as..." not followed by "goes" or "is concerned." Or is that rampant across the United States?
"As far as accommodation, I haven't started looking yet."
|by Anonymous||reply 95||09/07/2013|
English isn't even my first language.. I still know the difference between the mistakes made in OP's post. Are you guys really THAT bad in English? If so, yikes!
|by Anonymous||reply 96||09/07/2013|
"Different than" when "different from" should be used.
|by Anonymous||reply 97||09/07/2013|
Anyways instead of anyway
|by Anonymous||reply 98||09/07/2013|
R73 There's nothing wrong with ending a sentence with a preposition. Never was!
|by Anonymous||reply 99||09/07/2013|
R96, I know a lot of people whose native language isn't English & they all use it properly -- maybe somewhat limited & stilted, & maybe with an accent when speaking, but not fraught with egregious errors.
I think that's because they had to learn it the hard way, from a schoolbook with rules, rather than relying on reading/hearing it from careless writers &/or speakers.
I learned French from a schoolbook for 3 years before being introduced to colloquial usage in movies & magazines, so I knew what the hell I was doing from the outset. The movies & magazines helped me to use the language more casually, but the schoolbooks taught me how to use it correctly.
|by Anonymous||reply 100||09/07/2013|
When someone means to convey "congratulations," but instead types "congradulations," my eye begins twitching involuntarily.
When a perspn selects a word that he admittedly does not know how to spell, and then follows that with a parenthetical "sp?"--as in "purrpendikyooler(sp?)", this combination of ignorance with laziness makes me drive nails into my ears.
When someone employs the utterly nonsensical phrase "for all intensive purposes" instead of "for all intents and purposes," I want to shove my arm into a running blender.
|by Anonymous||reply 101||09/07/2013|
R101, I thought your last example was usually meant in jest, like "interwebs" and "I resemble that remark."
|by Anonymous||reply 102||09/07/2013|
Snuck - Sneaked is correct.
|by Anonymous||reply 103||09/27/2013|
Using further to describe distance, which is farther.
|by Anonymous||reply 104||09/27/2013|
Beginning a sentence with "Me and ..."
|by Anonymous||reply 105||09/27/2013|
Confusion among hanged and hung (and hung, for that matter.)
Are we happy the webmistress has continued selective pruning, without any sense of obligation for responding to questions on practices and policies?
I know I am!
|by Anonymous||reply 106||09/27/2013|
|by Anonymous||reply 107||07/14/2014|
This morning a radio host twice said "when I was woken up."
|by Anonymous||reply 108||07/14/2014|
Time for a troll hunt. What's OP been up to? We'll see.
|by Anonymous||reply 109||07/14/2014|
Using "less" where "fewer" is correct.
|by Anonymous||reply 110||07/14/2014|
"I unfriend you" when we mean, "stay away from me bitch"
|by Anonymous||reply 111||07/14/2014|