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Was John Wayne gay?

For some reason there is a lot of stuff on the internet about his being the ultimate closet case. He was buds with Rock Hudson. He didn't get along with Montgomery Clift. The rumors about John Ford, his buddy, are now out there.

by Anonymousreply 10810/31/2014

I have no idea, but I'm always happy to pass the rumors along.

Just because the evil old bastard would have hated the rumors so much.

by Anonymousreply 208/25/2013

Well, don't you want to know?

by Anonymousreply 308/25/2013

Yes, dish!

by Anonymousreply 408/26/2013

He REALLY like fried sausage; I mean, in the wrapper? Loved to suckle till it burst...and he always made it special, anytime Chaplin was around...if you catch my drift ;)

by Anonymousreply 508/26/2013

We're from the same hometown! I don't know what possessed him to kill all those young men and bury them under his house, but I'm sure he couldn't have been a homosexual.

by Anonymousreply 908/26/2013

Hehe, Prince!

by Anonymousreply 1108/26/2013

plus Barbra presented his Oscar.

by Anonymousreply 1208/26/2013

OP, you know damn well that every single man on Earth is gay and a friend of Dorothy. Why do you come here and waste band-width on this already resolved issue?

by Anonymousreply 1408/26/2013

He wanted to present his hole at the Oscars one year.

by Anonymousreply 1508/26/2013

The epitome of bi.

by Anonymousreply 1608/26/2013

Like many actors of his day, he used his body to get work in the film indusry.

by Anonymousreply 1708/26/2013

R6- talk about VPL....lol! He definitely had great legs. Wow! I never knew John Wayne was hot! hot!

by Anonymousreply 1908/26/2013

[quote] He didn't get along with Montgomery Clift.

From what I have read, very few people got along with Clift, especially male actors. He was often seen as pretentious and sort of stuck up. His good looks and superior skills as an actor probably intimidated a lot of the old school gang.

by Anonymousreply 2008/26/2013

When John Wayne first came to Hollywood as Marion Morrison, like many other young male actors, he started out modeling, mostly fitness / physique shots. Rumors say that he caught the eye of a studio executive who had the idea to turn him into a western star and who bought up all of the modeling pictures including any nudes.

by Anonymousreply 2108/26/2013

Thanks for that input R21.

by Anonymousreply 2208/26/2013

Oh sure, he and Ronald Reagan were lovers.

by Anonymousreply 2308/26/2013

He's wearing Espadrilles in that photo too! He's a big ole queer!

by Anonymousreply 2408/26/2013

[quote]Rumors say that he caught the eye of a studio executive who had the idea to turn him into a western star and who bought up all of the modeling pictures including any nudes.

It was Raoul Walsh. Wayne dropped out of college after losing his football scholarship (due to injury) and went to work as a prop boy at Fox. Walsh spotted him moving furniture (think hot, sweaty, probably shirtless) and *Bang* Wayne had a starring role in Walsh's next picture, The Big Trail.

Here's a photo of Wayne in Big Trail. You ponder what Walsh saw and draw your own conclusions:

by Anonymousreply 2508/26/2013

Another photo of young John Wayne:

by Anonymousreply 2608/26/2013

Great photo at R25.

by Anonymousreply 2708/27/2013

Gayer than a tree full of rainbow lorikeets on Hugh Jackman's verandah.

by Anonymousreply 2808/27/2013

What does Maureen O'Hara say?

by Anonymousreply 2908/27/2013

He had big man hands and a soft, feminine face when he was young. Beautiful hair and beautiful eyes.

He's a long way from TRUE GRIT in those shots.

by Anonymousreply 3008/27/2013

That would be funny if he was. All of my straight, conservative religious acquaintances worship the ground he walked on.

by Anonymousreply 3108/27/2013

What happened to him? He was handsome then.

by Anonymousreply 3208/27/2013

[quote]He's a long way from TRUE GRIT in those shots.

And a few thousand more cigarettes.

by Anonymousreply 3308/27/2013

It's hard to believe John Wayne was ever good-looking, because by the time he hit it big, his youthful beauty had faded and he looked like a big block of hung-over wood.

But his ugly, ordinary face actually worked for him as his career went on and on, because he played the kind of Alpha Male who didn't give a flying fuck about his looks. (Or his tiny wiener.)

by Anonymousreply 3408/27/2013

His drag name was Marion Morrison!

by Anonymousreply 3508/27/2013

Bill balls. Tiny cock. Old story in Hollywood that has been out there for years. Did not like to bottom but did it when it helped his career (in the mid to late 30's). In fairness, not that bad an actor when you put his roles in context--and his performance in "True Grit" is wonderful.

by Anonymousreply 3608/27/2013

R37, nice try.

by Anonymousreply 3808/27/2013

You've seen "The Birdcage," right?

by Anonymousreply 3908/27/2013

interesting post, r36. does anyone know if Charlton Heston engaged in gay sex for fun or career advancement? John Wayne, beautiful Burt Lancaster, Kurt Douglas, Marlon Brando and Heston gave off gay/bi vibes in tv interviews and their films imho.

by Anonymousreply 4008/27/2013

John Wayne, Ronald Reagan and Clint Eastwood dabbled in the homosex.

by Anonymousreply 4308/27/2013

His brother who lived in NYC was. He sewed and collected dolls.

by Anonymousreply 4508/27/2013

Sorry, that info may be incorrect. I believe it is one of his sons, who lives in NYC is gay, is amazing at sewing, and collects dolls.

by Anonymousreply 4708/27/2013

R46, the same could be said for Rock Hudson. They had similar personalities. Strong, masculine, imposing. It's just that you KNOW about Rock.

by Anonymousreply 4808/27/2013

"John Wayne, beautiful Burt Lancaster, Kurt Douglas, Marlon Brando and Heston gave off gay/bi vibes in tv interviews and their films imho."

Brando and Lancaster were both bisexual, I even heard a rumor that they had an affair.

Never heard a whisper about Heston, but then Heston was so dumb that he never realized "Ben Hur" had gay subtext. If he had been gay or bi, he was such a close-minded idiot that he might never figure it out.

by Anonymousreply 4908/27/2013

Was it John Wayne or Clark Gable who fired a director because he knew about his gay past? Probably both. I've heard rumors about both. They may not have been totally gay, but certainly bi when the situation called for it.

by Anonymousreply 5008/27/2013

Gable supposedly had George Cukor replaced with Victor Fleming as the director of Gone With the Wind because Cukor knew of Gable's casting couch climb.

Some sections of GWTW supposedly stand as having been directed by Cukor.

by Anonymousreply 5108/28/2013

Didn't he have sex with those boys he picked up in his clown suit before he killed them? That makes him gay, right?

by Anonymousreply 5208/28/2013

I heard he was such a flamboyant queen that the only way he could tone it down was develop that slow, deliberate way of speaking.

by Anonymousreply 5308/28/2013

"This is the stupidest thread I've ever seen on this website."

Oh -- there have been threads that have been more stupid. Expotentially more stupid...

by Anonymousreply 5708/29/2013

41,42,44, get OFF the gay gossip site, breeders.

by Anonymousreply 5808/29/2013

He always got me as a bisexual type. No doubt his Kinsey scale was near the center.

by Anonymousreply 5908/29/2013

Marion Morrison was a college football player when he was "discovered" by Hollywood. The whole "John Wayne" persona was fake. He ended up believing his own PR, as he got older, but the young Morrison was hardly some cowboy. He had wavy hair, and clearly knew he was good looking. ALL celebrities in those days bartered for parts with their parts. Even Clark Gable, who was the straightest of straight, let George Cukor blow him at the beginning of his career. That's the way it was. So whether they were straight, bi, or gay, they played the game.

by Anonymousreply 6008/29/2013

Nope, could NOT have had homosex in his younger years. No way, no how. See pic.

by Anonymousreply 6108/29/2013

Nothing gay here at all. Incredibly straight!

by Anonymousreply 6208/29/2013

Oh young Marion Morrison. His nickname was "little duke" because he never went anywhere without his beloved Airedale terrier.

His football career ended when he hurt himself bodysurfing.

He was "discovered" by silent film star Tom Mix, while hanging around the movie studios.

In 1930, director Raoul Walsh saw him moving some studio props around, and decided "little duke" was perfect to star in his film. (This was, presumably, apres blowjob). Then he went from picture to picture until he landed the job in Stagecoach.

The macho cowboy act was completely fake. He was a pharmacist's kid, upper middle class, and he was in a Freemason youth group.

by Anonymousreply 6308/29/2013

This is Tom Mix.

by Anonymousreply 6408/29/2013

Looking good at R62.

by Anonymousreply 6508/30/2013

He shure was purty.

by Anonymousreply 6608/30/2013

like any of you knew him

by Anonymousreply 6704/11/2014

What I've read about John Wayne is that he had a thing for dark haired (female) beauties, many of whom were of Latin extraction.

Patricia Neal had noted that Wayne seemed to deliberately pick on men who by appearances came off as gay.

by Anonymousreply 6804/13/2014

S on a horse that many years,didn't give him the ,inventor of the mince walk,with a name like marion(his parents were nasty bastards

by Anonymousreply 6910/26/2014

Wow to that photo at R62. He was hot!

by Anonymousreply 7010/26/2014

A 17 year old Charleston Heston as he appeared in an early "Peer Gynt" rendition.

Tasty.

by Anonymousreply 7110/26/2014

Sorry....Charlton, not Charleston.

by Anonymousreply 7210/26/2014

I heard from an oldtime Hollywood queen that John Wayne and John Ford would drive down to San Diego to pick up sailors.

by Anonymousreply 7310/26/2014

I'm with R37 & R44

by Anonymousreply 7410/26/2014

If I were a betting man I'd bet yes.

by Anonymousreply 7510/26/2014

I'll tell ya one thing, he was NO Johnny Mack Brown!

by Anonymousreply 7610/26/2014

John Wayne is the one who knew for certain, and he isn't talking. Really, it is anyone's guess at this point.

But, to deny he could not have been gay or bi because he projected a masculine persona is foolish.

The post above that claims he didn't like or harassed gay men is interesting. If true, just remember those who yell names the loudest or most often end up being the gayest. Just reminding you.

by Anonymousreply 7710/26/2014

John Ford may have had feelings for the Duke, but they were not reciprocated beyond professional admiration.

by Anonymousreply 7810/26/2014

[quote]But, to deny he could not have been gay or bi because he projected a masculine persona is foolish.

Any examples of closeted gay men with similarly uber-musculine personas?

by Anonymousreply 7910/26/2014

I have heard and read the opposite about Clift and Wayne. I heard that they got along, and that Wayne liked Clift because he was a good actor.

by Anonymousreply 8010/26/2014

R77 Oh right, because homophobes really are often closet cases.

by Anonymousreply 8110/26/2014

79, get out of the house more often.

Go to any gay event.

Go to leather bdsm runs for some real good examples.

by Anonymousreply 8210/26/2014

r81, in my experience they sure are, at least the loudest, meanest ones.

by Anonymousreply 8310/26/2014

r79/r81 is surely a flyover frau or fundie.

by Anonymousreply 8410/26/2014

R82 I meant out of famous people.

by Anonymousreply 8510/26/2014

Guys who get their pussy and like it don't usually have a big issue with gay men. They're satiated, they're mellow and they don't really care.

by Anonymousreply 8610/26/2014

You can be in drag in many ways. For some guys it's the über-masculinity.

by Anonymousreply 8710/26/2014

Speaking of Marlene, didn't she desperately try to bed Wayne on their first film but he wouldn't give in?

Just sayin'.

by Anonymousreply 8810/26/2014

Wayne was big and imposing, but that walk and that voice don't particularly scream uber-masculine.

And I couldn't say one way or the other whether he was gay or not.

by Anonymousreply 8910/26/2014

No he wasn't very masculine and maybe that's why he tried to overcompensate to keep true to his tough-guy image.

by Anonymousreply 9110/26/2014

The photo of John Wayne in hot pants at R41 tells the story.

by Anonymousreply 9210/27/2014

Oops! That should be: The photo of John Wayne in hot pants at [R91] tells the story.

by Anonymousreply 9310/27/2014

LOL r76, you are a man after my cold, dead, pre-Code loving heart.

by Anonymousreply 9410/27/2014

I'm totally surprised that nobody has mentioned Darwin Porter's "Hollywood Babylon - It's Back" and the long. long story about John Wayne offing Nick Adams because Nick threatened to go public on their affair.

by Anonymousreply 9510/27/2014

The Duke, gay?

by Anonymousreply 9710/27/2014

I think many of you posters think that if you post the picture of him in hot pants enough it will retroactively make him gay.

by Anonymousreply 9810/27/2014

Get Wayne out of the saddle, and you've got problems.

by Anonymousreply 9910/27/2014

One of the few things I've learned here is that all movie stars are gay. All of them. Every single one of them. ESPECIALLY the married ones.

The other thing I've learned is that the gays aren't very bright. Gullible.

by Anonymousreply 10010/27/2014

NO idea but he would hate those rumors.

by Anonymousreply 10110/27/2014

Who taught you this, r100? As I have posted before, in the early 50's there were three exclusively straight big male stars...

by Anonymousreply 10210/27/2014

John Wayne! Are you gonna tell me he's a fag?!

by Anonymousreply 10310/29/2014

NEWSFLASH! There are indeed "straight-acting", macho men who are gay! Now, if John Wayne was or not, I don't know. ONly he could tell you that, and he is dead, so we will never know for sure.

Someone once told me when I first came out that I would see that there are MORE men who are attracted to men who are married and have families than those who are openly gay. I found this to be true. Time and space don't permit me to go into this right now, but yes, I did indeed find that to be true. I believe sexuality is on a continuum between gay and straight.

As for the haters, YES! the more openly hateful they are the more they turn out to be gay. Absolutely. The louder they yell F*&, the more they turn out to be gay.

A visit to any cruising ground late at night (remember them?) is/was always interesting. Amazing who turns out to be there! I am guessing today they cruise on-line.

by Anonymousreply 10410/31/2014

I've been crushing on his son Patrick Wayne for years.

by Anonymousreply 10510/31/2014

John Wayne was set to star in the original film version of The Birdcage.

by Anonymousreply 10610/31/2014

Gay, straight, bisexual, whatever.

The real question should rather be: Is/was so-and-so ambitious enough to use the casting couch (aka. sexual favors) to further his career?

Some people are still so hung up about sex and sexual identity that they can't wrap their heads around the idea of career driven / ambitious people doing whatever it takes to reach their ambitious goals.

by Anonymousreply 10710/31/2014

R55, why in the hell are you here?

by Anonymousreply 10810/31/2014
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