Was she a lesbian?
Let's talk about Peggy Cass
|by Anonymous||reply 81||08/06/2013|
She was totally fabulous, but she did indeed love the pussy-play
|by Anonymous||reply 1||08/01/2013|
Well her husband died this year, not that that proves anything...
|by Anonymous||reply 2||08/01/2013|
She was definitely a fag hag.
|by Anonymous||reply 3||08/01/2013|
The eponymous heroine of the hit Broadway play MARY, MARY by Jean Kerr was based on Peggy Cass.
I believe that character was straight.
Btw, that play is unreviveable.
|by Anonymous||reply 4||08/01/2013|
Damn, and I thought I was old. Peggy Cass? Really? Who's up next, Kitty Kilgallen?
|by Anonymous||reply 5||08/01/2013|
I'll never tell.
|by Anonymous||reply 6||08/01/2013|
Well she never sucked my cock
(and we shared a dressing room while filming AUNTIE MAME)
|by Anonymous||reply 7||08/01/2013|
Believe it or not, in the old DL days (a few years ago), we had long and interesting and funny threads on Dorothy Kilgallen, Arlene Francis and Kitty Carlisle.
I doubt that this one have anything new by tomorrow afternoon.
|by Anonymous||reply 8||08/01/2013|
She came to my hick town--she was doing summer stock: Goodbye, My Fancy. Long, dull play. I think Joan Crawford did the movie version.
I met her at some event after the show. Very nice person. I remember that she was tiny, and had on the most exaggerated false eyelashes I had ever seen.
|by Anonymous||reply 9||08/01/2013|
I remember the Arlene Francis thread where she killed someone by dropping a potted geranium on their head from 17 stories up. Was that around the time that Paul Lynde's b/f went flying out the window of his abode?
|by Anonymous||reply 10||08/01/2013|
I'm assuming that she played the 'broad' role in the Film Noirs.
|by Anonymous||reply 11||08/01/2013|
She was on "to tell the truth"
|by Anonymous||reply 12||08/01/2013|
Loved Peggy Cass on "To Tell The Truth." If I recall, she sat beside Bill Cullen.
|by Anonymous||reply 13||08/01/2013|
As a Mystery Guest on "What's My Line?".
|by Anonymous||reply 14||08/01/2013|
Peggy Cass was a regular guest on the Jack Paar Show. That was back in the days when late night TV actually entertained viewers rather than just provide a forum for celebrities to hype their latest project.
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I could never tell if she and Kitty Carlisle got along very well on To Tell the Truth. There always seemed to be a slight edge in their confrontations.
Did she ever appear in any plays, noteworthy or not, after Auntie Mame? I'm an aged theater queen and yet I'd be hard pressed to come up with a single other NY credit.
She apparently made her entire living from that one game show.
|by Anonymous||reply 16||08/02/2013|
She was kind of the Fran Liebowitz of her day.
|by Anonymous||reply 17||08/02/2013|
Her credits on imdb.com aren't very substantial; she didn't get much of a career bump from "Auntie Mame." It's interesting to look back at an actor's career and see how much (or how little) a big or splashy part helped them over the long term.
Of course, most actors would be delighted to work as much as Cass did.
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I heard she was hung. We are talking Bea Arthur hung here!!!
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|by Anonymous||reply 20||08/02/2013|
[quote]Peggy Cass was a regular guest on the Jack Paar Show. That was back in the days when late night TV actually entertained viewers rather than just provide a forum for celebrities to hype their latest project.
I miss those days. Even as recent as Johnny Carson (and that's not all that recent now), celebrities as guests on talk shows could carry on a conversation. They were guests because they could entertain and be interesting and witty.
Now, however, celebrities can barely talk to keep your atention, and they're never on a show unless they're promoting their latest movie. That's not a bad thing, but today's guests are boring, have nothing to say. They lack star quality to make you want to watch.
Not to mention, most of today's hosts, e.g., Conan O'Brien, Jimmy Fallon are terribble and cannot conduct an interview.
|by Anonymous||reply 21||08/02/2013|
BTW, was Barbara Bel Geddes a lesbian? I had a mild crush on her as a teen
|by Anonymous||reply 22||08/02/2013|
She did 42nd Street on Broadway. I saw her in it she was good.
|by Anonymous||reply 23||08/02/2013|
Peggy is a hoot in a movie called "If It's Tuesday, It Must Be Belgium" about a group of crass American tourists on a 18-day bus trip all thru Europe.
The divine Suzanne Pleshette plays their guide, who falls in love with a young and hunky Ian McShane (many years before "Deadwood").
The rest of the travelers are a who's who of now-forgotten yet terrific comic actors: Mildred Natwick, Norman Fell (Mr. Roper), Pamela Britton (My Favorite Martian), Reva Rose, Marty Ingels (Mr. Shirley Jones), Sandy Baron (Seinfeld), etc etc.
Rent it and laugh
|by Anonymous||reply 24||08/02/2013|
Peggy won a Tony for AUNTIE MAME, and got an Oscar nomination for it too - she lost the Oscar to Wendy Hiller in "Separate Tables".
|by Anonymous||reply 25||08/02/2013|
Who can forget Peggy's standout performance in "Gidget Goes Hawaiian".
|by Anonymous||reply 26||08/02/2013|
Peggy posed for the photos of First Lady Martha Dinwoody Butterfield in Patrick Dennis' spoof (a la Little Me) First Lady.
Dagmar was in it too. Sort of funny but not as good as Little Me.
|by Anonymous||reply 27||08/02/2013|
I think she also starred on B'way opposite Paul Ford in A Thurber Carnival.
|by Anonymous||reply 28||08/02/2013|
[quote]First Lady Martha Dinwoody Butterfield
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I love you, R24!
|by Anonymous||reply 30||08/02/2013|
On a revival cast album of a cole porter musical, 50 million Frenchman, she does a wonderful "the queen of terra haute".
|by Anonymous||reply 31||08/02/2013|
In "If It's Tuesday . . . " Suzanne Pleshette played a tourist from Minnesouta who falls in love with the young and hunky tour guide Ian McShane.
|by Anonymous||reply 32||08/02/2013|
Did she ever play Gooch in the musicale?
|by Anonymous||reply 33||08/02/2013|
What was Peggy's marital status?
|by Anonymous||reply 34||08/02/2013|
R34, she was married to a former Jesuit priest who started a a school for low-income boys. He died earlier this year.
|by Anonymous||reply 35||08/02/2013|
Peggy Cass did a great deal of summer stock. I saw her in "Bells are Ringing" around 1960 and two decades later in a play about an older woman who falls for a younger man.
Jack Paar returned to TV occasionally after he retired around 1965. Peggy Cass was usually on those later shows.
|by Anonymous||reply 36||08/02/2013|
Many of Jack Paar's favorite guests were witty actors like Peggy, who never had much to plug. They were just there to make entertaining conversation. It was a different world.
|by Anonymous||reply 37||08/02/2013|
1979 Google news archive article about her career at the link.
She strikes me as someone who just loved to perform. The game/talk shows gave her the visibility she needed to create a name that would get attention in a small town/city stock production.
Can actors still have lifelong careers of this sort?
|by Anonymous||reply 38||08/02/2013|
Towards the end of her life, she toured in AGNES OF GOD, playing the role of the Mother Superior
|by Anonymous||reply 39||08/02/2013|
3 Queens and a REAL woman:
Hayden Roarke (Dr. Bellows on I DREAM OF JEANNIE), famous female impersonator Charles Pierce, Broadway dancer Lee Roy Reams, and Peggy.
|by Anonymous||reply 40||08/02/2013|
"Jack Paar returned to TV occasionally after he retired around 1965. Peggy Cass was usually on those later shows."
Paar made an unsuccessful late night talk show comeback on ABC in 1973, with Peggy as his announcer/sidekick.
|by Anonymous||reply 41||08/03/2013|
According to Kitty Carlisle's autobiography, she and Peggy got along fine but traveled in different worlds. I'm embarrassed to know this, so please don't tell anyone I told you.
|by Anonymous||reply 42||08/03/2013|
Kitty Carlisle born Catherine Conn to German Jewish parents. Her father was the mayor of Shreveport Louisiana. Her father was also a Confederate soldier. There is a book out there right now about her playwright husband Moss Hart.
|by Anonymous||reply 43||08/03/2013|
Moss was gay as a goose and Kitty was well aware.
|by Anonymous||reply 44||08/03/2013|
During Peggy's earlier marriage to a prominent theatrical manager, it was her custom to get very drunk and have sex with various men. Judging from this, I would think that she was not a lesbian. Despite her behavior during this marriage, she was very bitter about his decision to leave her, and discussed it on several talk shows. This was in the late '60's.
|by Anonymous||reply 45||08/03/2013|
R41: I am not sure I would call Jack Paar's 1973 late-night talk show an all-out attempt at a comeback. Dick Cavett's ratings were sinking, so ABC came up with the idea of one week of Paar, one week of Cavett and two weeks of non-talk show programs. It may have seemed like a good idea at the time....
Paar and Cass may have been able to establish the old magic again if the show was broadcast every week night, but it did not work as just one week a month. Both Paar and Cass had lost their edge, and the show seemed dated and old fashioned.
|by Anonymous||reply 46||08/03/2013|
Kitty always came across as the epitome of Upper East Side New York WASP. That is interesting to know about her background.
Peggy could have played Peppermint Patty in a Peanuts Live Action Movie. She seemed unrefined and no nonsense.
|by Anonymous||reply 47||08/03/2013|
The Kitty Carlisle we saw on TV was as much a self creation as Joan Crawford, although a much nicer Joan Crawford.
A friend of my mom's when to high school in Masachusetts with Peggy Cass. What we saw in TV was pretty much the way Cass was in high schoom -- class clown, snart with a great sense of humor.
|by Anonymous||reply 48||08/03/2013|
Everybody's getting fat, except Peggy Cass.
|by Anonymous||reply 49||08/03/2013|
I had no idea Peggy did so much acting in stock. I wonder why she was never cast in Broadway shows after Mame?
|by Anonymous||reply 50||08/04/2013|
What was Orson Beane's claim to fame?
|by Anonymous||reply 51||08/04/2013|
Oh dear. Is pudgy Barbara still posting on Datalounge? Still angry at all those parts I took from you sweetie?
|by Anonymous||reply 52||08/04/2013|
Orson Bean was once the flavor of the month as far as juveniles on Broadway were concerned.
He starred in Will Success Spoil Rock Hunter? with Jayne Mansfield and Subways Are for Sleeping with Phyllis Newman, among other shows.
|by Anonymous||reply 53||08/04/2013|
Kitty's mother, Hortense Conn, was a huge snob who was obsessed with breaking into WASP society, and she encouraged the family to "pass" for Gentile. She sent Kitty to a snooty finishing school in New Orleans, then took her to Europe to make her début in hopes of her landing a royal husband.
Once when Kitty came home for a visit after becoming famous, she and Hortense were riding in a taxi. After the cabbie dropped off Kitty, he asked Hortense, "That's Kitty Carlisle, right? Isn't she Jewish?" Hortense replied, "She may be, but I'M not."
|by Anonymous||reply 54||08/04/2013|
Anyone remember "The Hathaways"?
|by Anonymous||reply 55||08/04/2013|
A 1960's sitcom starring Peggy and Jack Weston.
|by Anonymous||reply 56||08/04/2013|
Orson Bean's daughter was married to Andrew Breitbart.
The granddaughter of one of the founding members of the ACLU Being married to Andrew Breitbart shows how far this country has deteriorated in a few generations.
|by Anonymous||reply 57||08/04/2013|
Orson is married to Alley Mills, who played the mother on "The Wonder Years."
|by Anonymous||reply 58||08/04/2013|
A friend has a set of DVDs about the best of Merv Griffin. Lots of famous celebs who could talk about all kinds of things without even a mention of their most recent project. There are three or four DVDs in the set. Today's stars are totally dull when they're on talk shows.
|by Anonymous||reply 59||08/04/2013|
Kitty and Moss Hart's daughter, Catherine, is my doctor on the Upper East Side. A great doctor, but poor dear inherited her father's looks. She does have great stories to tell about her famous parents - one of the reasons I love going to see her.
|by Anonymous||reply 60||08/04/2013|
Do none of you watch the Graham Norton Show? It's not a bastion of witty repartee, but it's not wall-to-wall promotion of X, Y or Z's latest product.
|by Anonymous||reply 61||08/04/2013|
I love Monday Monday and California dreaming! I would have loved more solo albums from her
|by Anonymous||reply 62||08/04/2013|
Orson Bean was the young husband in the huge Broadway hit of the early 1960s Never Too Late starring Maureen Sullivan and Paul Ford.
Like Mary, Mary it's unreviveable.
|by Anonymous||reply 63||08/04/2013|
God, I was in a production of Never Too Late in high school--what the world needed, 16s year old in a menopause comedy! It's not a very good play--I can't imagine why anyone would consider reviving it.
|by Anonymous||reply 64||08/04/2013|
R63 - why is MARY, MARY unrevivable?
Isn't it the dramatic adaption of life here at DataLounge?
|by Anonymous||reply 65||08/04/2013|
And that, r21, is why I love Russell Brand.
|by Anonymous||reply 66||08/04/2013|
"Orson Bean was the young husband in the huge Broadway hit of the early 1960s Never Too Late starring Maureen Sullivan and Paul Ford."
TCM airs the 1965 film version every so often, with Maureen O'Sullivan, Paul Ford, Jim Hutton and Connie Stevens . . . extremely dated.
|by Anonymous||reply 67||08/04/2013|
Never Too Late ran for an insanely long time on Broadway--hard to tell why? I guess the ultimate "tired business man's" comedy. Well, if it worked for Plautus and Terence....
|by Anonymous||reply 68||08/04/2013|
R57, Orson Bean is a right-wing nut job himself. He has often disparaged his father and his father's politics while admiring Breitbart's. Very disappointing to those of us who, as children, enjoyed his banter and his drawings on TTTT.
|by Anonymous||reply 69||08/04/2013|
The Jesuits did love Peggy Cass. And her money!
|by Anonymous||reply 70||08/04/2013|
[quote]She was totally fabulous, but she did indeed love the pussy-play
When I first read the nonsense at R1, I was surprised by the misinformation. But I didn't realize how offensive the use of "but" was, as though there is anything inconsistent about being both fabulous and a lesbian.
|by Anonymous||reply 71||08/05/2013|
Is she the one who had her legs cut off due to diabetes?
|by Anonymous||reply 72||08/05/2013|
R72, that was Totie Fields
|by Anonymous||reply 73||08/05/2013|
No, that was Dody Goodman.
|by Anonymous||reply 74||08/05/2013|
No, it was Totie Fields.
|by Anonymous||reply 75||08/05/2013|
It was Porgy.
|by Anonymous||reply 76||08/06/2013|
Totie Fields had only one leg amputated. Thereafter she was qualified to play dual roles in the remake of "Moby Dick," as both Ahab and the whale.
|by Anonymous||reply 77||08/06/2013|
"Kitty always came across as the epitome of Upper East Side New York WASP."
Are you fucking nuts, r47? On the contrary, Kitty came across as the epitome of Upper WEST Side Jewish.
|by Anonymous||reply 78||08/06/2013|
Peggy won a big lawsuit against a NYC hospital that performed an operation on the wrong knee. No amputations.
|by Anonymous||reply 79||08/06/2013|
They DID perform amputations, R79. But not on her.
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