|by Anonymous||reply 240||08/04/2013|
Failed? I could not work another day in my life and I've already made tens of millions of dollars from acting.
|by Anonymous||reply 1||07/31/2013|
I think Colin Farrell is a bit unfair. He has big time name recognition and also some talent.. I'd expect an Oscar nod somewhere down the line. He just gets shit parts/movies.
Sam Worthington is fine for the mindless action films he's in.. he does alright, even if Joel Edgerton has kinda wiped him out.
lol @ Pettyfer and Kitsch. Lautner doesn't need to happen, he was in Shitlight which is enough and will last years.
Why only one female actor?
|by Anonymous||reply 2||07/31/2013|
OP, you are an idiot.
|by Anonymous||reply 3||07/31/2013|
Doesn't matter, Tay Tay. You'll still never have an A-list career.
|by Anonymous||reply 4||07/31/2013|
I wish I have their "failures". I have truckloads of fangirls on IMDB and Datalounge but still unknown to the rest of the world. I wish I was Colin Farrell or Ryan Reynolds.
|by Anonymous||reply 5||07/31/2013|
I agree with R2 - Colin's had lousy movies, and parts, but it still could happen or him, with the right part, & right film.
|by Anonymous||reply 6||07/31/2013|
No I disagree. Colin chose to make those bad, big budget tentpoles hoping to become an A-list commodity and he failed. He still wants to do them but after his last big bomb last year, Total Recall, studios aren't buying. He was going to do a swords and sandals tent pole movie, but the studio scrapped it rather than have him star in it as it was too expensive and too risky.
|by Anonymous||reply 7||07/31/2013|
re: Colin Farrell - I did however wish to see a lot more of him after watching Minority Report (which also has the distinction of being the last Tammy movie I will ever see in a theater).
|by Anonymous||reply 8||07/31/2013|
R2, there's only one female because they were heavily interested in action movie flops. Women are rarely the lead character of an action film.
|by Anonymous||reply 9||07/31/2013|
I wouldn't count Colin Farrell out just yet. This year [italic] Winter's Tale[/italic] co-starring Russell Crowe, Will Smith, Jennifer Conolly and Matt Bomer will be released. He will also costar to Tom Hanks in [italic] Saving Mr. Banks[/italice]. Most of the other actors on that list have a cute look and a signature role - Colin has solid talent.
|by Anonymous||reply 10||07/31/2013|
They keep on trying and failing to make Olivia Wilde happen. So there's an actress for you.
|by Anonymous||reply 11||07/31/2013|
Chris O'Donnell should be on the list as well he was gonna be the next big thing in the 90s after Batman Forever. They even put him as the lead with Sandra Bullock in In Love and War
Now he's doing TV
|by Anonymous||reply 12||07/31/2013|
|by Anonymous||reply 13||07/31/2013|
Why did you do that, R14, when this is a brand new thread with recent replies?
|by Anonymous||reply 14||07/31/2013|
McBongo owns this thread.
No one has had more buzz around the time of.A Time to Kill, followed by so few big hits.
|by Anonymous||reply 16||07/31/2013|
Yeah, but McBongo has turned his career around lately. They even mentioned in the article that he would have been a prime candidate a few years ago. And is r16 some joke that I don't get?
|by Anonymous||reply 17||07/31/2013|
r17 What year are you living in? He's got critical acclaim on his side now after the much better film choices he's made over the past few years. No more of that rom-com shit, at least for now.
|by Anonymous||reply 18||07/31/2013|
Loren Dean (remember him?), star of "Billy Bathgate" (remember that?) owns this thread.
|by Anonymous||reply 19||07/31/2013|
Colin could go the McBoingo route and actually become a real actor. I don't know that you could say that about anyone else on that list.
|by Anonymous||reply 20||07/31/2013|
Freddie Prinze Jr
|by Anonymous||reply 21||07/31/2013|
I was closing the italics tag, r15.
|by Anonymous||reply 22||07/31/2013|
Thank you R14/R23.
|by Anonymous||reply 23||07/31/2013|
Tailor Lautner is among the highest paid celebrities, making $33.5 MILLION last year ALONE.
Add to that list real flops. Like remember when Milo Ventimiglia was getting big for a moment? poor guy
|by Anonymous||reply 24||07/31/2013|
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|by Anonymous||reply 26||07/31/2013|
I'd say Reynolds and Farrell don't really belong on the list, as they have 'happened' to some extent, in that they've had multiple leading movie roles, and careers spanning years, even if they haven't become A-list.
I'd agree with all the others on OP's list, though.
|by Anonymous||reply 27||07/31/2013|
And there's a whole new slew of wannabes (names unknown as of now) who turned up in films being promoted at the recent Comic.con and TCA shows. Will we ever see their names again?
|by Anonymous||reply 28||07/31/2013|
|by Anonymous||reply 29||07/31/2013|
r21, Farrell is already on his way there; after his initial Hollywood forey failed, he did a string of indie flicks, some of them pretty good, even winning a well-deserved Golden Globe for "In Bruges" -- which I had hoped would land him an Oscar nod, but no luck. I'm guessing he thought that would give him re-entry to Hollywood big time, but he made some bad choices. He should go back to indie flicks while searching for good supporting roles in the occasional Hollywood fair.
|by Anonymous||reply 30||07/31/2013|
I remember, R20 . Yes, he was shortly beleived to be the next "jeune premier". But did Hollywood really tried to make him happen, offering him preeminebt roles time and time again? As far as I know, Billy Bathgate was his only "big" role.
|by Anonymous||reply 31||07/31/2013|
I know people are going to say Kate Hudson happened, but in my opinion she never hit A-list. She was a solid B leaning towards B+, but I don't think she ever achieved Roberts/Jolie/Bullock/Foster ranking.
Oh and did anyone mention Jude Law? He was crammed down our throats, we were supposed to love him but I don't think it ever happened no matter how many films he was cast in those three or so years.
|by Anonymous||reply 32||07/31/2013|
"no matter how many films he was cast in those three or so years"
Are you posting from 2007, R33?
|by Anonymous||reply 33||07/31/2013|
The whole world knows Kate Hudson and her parents, Jude Law, Colin Farrell, and Tay Lautner. I don't know what "happen" means anymore.
|by Anonymous||reply 34||07/31/2013|
|by Anonymous||reply 35||07/31/2013|
Josh Brolin hasn't "happened"?
|by Anonymous||reply 36||07/31/2013|
No Justin Timberlake?
|by Anonymous||reply 37||07/31/2013|
I thought Colin Farrell happened. He certainly has the looks, talent and charisma. And the bad boy persona doens't hurt either.
Josh Hartnett happened for a short while. What a terrible actor, though. Wasn't he just a younger, talentless Tommy Lee Jones lookalike?
Rest of the list is pretty accurate.
|by Anonymous||reply 38||07/31/2013|
McBongo is very decent as an actor. I never liked his looks (struggled to see what was attractive in him in the beginning, then gave it up and actually enjoy his movies). He makes pretty good choices nowadays. Lincoln Lawyer was very good entertainment fare, good actors all around (even Ryan Philippe was decently used).
|by Anonymous||reply 39||07/31/2013|
This thread is useless without Jake Gyllenhaal being mentioned.
|by Anonymous||reply 40||07/31/2013|
Jude Law happened. He may be over now, but he had his moment on the A-List, and was a serious Oscar contender for a while. Same with Colin Farrell, minus the Oscar-quality movies. If you mention either of their names to someone on the street, they will know who you’re talking about. The same can’t be said for Stephen Dorff, Gretchen Mol, or some of the other actors on OP’s list.
|by Anonymous||reply 41||07/31/2013|
OMG Loren Dean! I only knew his face (from the movie poster), never knew his name. I wanted to see Billy Bathgate! Never did. Was it any good? What was that film like? Very early nineties? So bad no one could recall? It certainly hasn't been mentioned since.
And Loren Dean is the face of Ethan Hawke's older cop brother in Gattaca, nothing more. And again, a name I'll forget.
|by Anonymous||reply 42||07/31/2013|
Jake Gyllenhaal happened too. He was almost big-big-time.
|by Anonymous||reply 43||07/31/2013|
That blonde chicke from Grey's Anatomy. I don't even remember her name.
|by Anonymous||reply 44||07/31/2013|
Shia leBoeuf isn't on that list yet, but hopefully soon!
|by Anonymous||reply 45||07/31/2013|
Jude Law was mentioned in Farrell's bit. They said he happened, faltered, and then landed on his feet as a character actor. Whether you agree is in the eye of the beholder. Also, Law is an Oscar nominee. Farrell never had that.
Gyllenhaal happened, he just wasn't able to sustain it. He was everywhere 06-10. He's still a good candidate to turn it around, in my opinion.
|by Anonymous||reply 46||07/31/2013|
Josh Hartnett has a disturbing neck mole. That is why he fails.
|by Anonymous||reply 47||07/31/2013|
Did Tobey Maguire ever happen?
|by Anonymous||reply 48||07/31/2013|
Jude Law seriously happened late nineties-early 2000s. Not always leading man, but excellent parts in well-remembered movies. He's over now because he's finally lost his hair, but he still did very well IMHO.
|by Anonymous||reply 49||07/31/2013|
why didn't I happen?
|by Anonymous||reply 50||07/31/2013|
Wasn't that Heigl? She happened, except everybody hated her. I've seen worse.
|by Anonymous||reply 51||07/31/2013|
Gyllenhaal is still an unknown to many outside the U.S, and especially the to the older generation. He's not known globally like Tay Lautner and Jude Law.
|by Anonymous||reply 52||07/31/2013|
Jude Law has major name recognition, so hasbeen now but did happen. He was awful in Contagion.
Katherine Heigl per r45 did really well in romcoms but sadly stuck to that. She isn't any worse than most of that ilk so could do more, but doesn't want to a la Aniston.
Shia by his own admission was in movies that couldn't fail regardless of who was in them. Lol @ him going the Lars Von Trier route.
|by Anonymous||reply 53||07/31/2013|
[quote]And there's a whole new slew of wannabes (names unknown as of now) who turned up in films being promoted at the recent Comic.con and TCA shows. Will we ever see their names again?
Andrew Lincoln and Norman Reedus?
|by Anonymous||reply 54||07/31/2013|
Lautner is only known because of Twilight, and that will be over soon. I doubt the older generation knows his name unless they have children. Gyllenhaal was much ore interesting and a far better actor.
Maggie made the right choices, it turns out (not that she had any, being a woman and all).
|by Anonymous||reply 55||07/31/2013|
Viggo Mortensen was thisclose.
|by Anonymous||reply 56||07/31/2013|
Given that we all know who these people are and that with few if any exceptions they are rich - some of them extremely rich - and continue to work, I think they've happened, OP.
|by Anonymous||reply 57||07/31/2013|
My beloved Brandon Routh. :-(
|by Anonymous||reply 58||07/31/2013|
R59, I thought you liked Randon Bouth?
|by Anonymous||reply 59||07/31/2013|
Haaaaa... Viggo Mortensen happened, but only to the arthouse bad boy crowd. It's like saying Harvey Keitel never happened.
|by Anonymous||reply 60||07/31/2013|
Colin Farrell is a better actor than Jude Law, but he lost a number of his early years to alcoholism during which he would have been building his career. I think he can still do well. In Bruges was an excellent choice. Desperation will never be a good reason for choosing a role.
Jude Law had some good roles, but I wish someone better had been cast in most of those roles.
Hopefully Jake G will make smarter choices (like Matt McC). Please no more PoP debacles.
|by Anonymous||reply 61||07/31/2013|
"They tried and failed?"
"They tried and died."
|by Anonymous||reply 62||07/31/2013|
Reading the article OP posted, I couldn't help but smirk at Dorff and Pettyfer's delusionnal arrogance and general douchiness. Wow, talk about cautionnary tales.
By the way, I remember when Dorff was supposed to be the next intense young Oscar actor. Never happened, though.
|by Anonymous||reply 63||07/31/2013|
|by Anonymous||reply 64||07/31/2013|
Might as well add Kyle MacLachlan, R63.
|by Anonymous||reply 65||07/31/2013|
I hope Anna Kendrick. I really don't get what anyone sees in her. And I don't like her face.
She was going to be the female lead in Zach Braff's Kickstarter movie but it ended up being Ashley Greene, who is far hotter in my opinion. And since they're only playing Manic Pixie Dream Girl anyway... Who cares who's the better actor.
|by Anonymous||reply 66||07/31/2013|
I really hope Mortensen gets further. The best American actor.
|by Anonymous||reply 67||07/31/2013|
Jude Law had the beauty of a fallen angel, once of heaven but then condemned to be among mere mortals who were not worthy of his presence. His beauty declined so rapidly, showing him to be mortal, that his appeal as a leading man just as quickly faded. Now he has the face, and fortunately the skills, of a character actor.
|by Anonymous||reply 68||07/31/2013|
|by Anonymous||reply 69||07/31/2013|
Coklin F's choices must have been crap, because I've only seen him in 3 movies when I lost count of all the movies I saq JudeL in, and I was not even a fan. I felt he was very good in all of them except Holiday (how can he be believable as any type of decent man? He's a scoundrel)
|by Anonymous||reply 70||07/31/2013|
R67, you are bitching about anyone else's looks in a Zack Braff movie? Good god.
|by Anonymous||reply 71||07/31/2013|
Oh, and to those who are adressing OP because they question the list, read again, the list comes from a site he links in his post.
Don't shoot the messenger.
|by Anonymous||reply 72||07/31/2013|
Ha, I'd say Ewan McGregor happened in Scotland, happened in Europe, happened in arthouse movies where he was the star. It was a big mistake going to Hollywood and doing those Star Wars movies and the such. He's a cute thing, not a very good actor. And he cannot pass as American, he is so very Scottish!! Sometimes he's surprisingly good, but he can also be very bad.
|by Anonymous||reply 73||07/31/2013|
Anna Kendrick looks like the first "ETOG" threat of the 2010's. Who'd have thought that an ingenue Oscar nom not named AnnE would have a top 10 hit on Billboard from a rather slight film's soundtrack? She will be around for the long haul.
Pettyfer does have talent and his American accent was flawless in "Magic Mike". Too bad his well-documented attitude problem seems to have stalled his career while fellow U.K. actors even younger than him seem to be surpassing him in Hollywood.
|by Anonymous||reply 74||07/31/2013|
Replace Colin Farrell with Gerard Butler.
|by Anonymous||reply 75||07/31/2013|
The worst part is, Braff looks like one of my exes, who is a girl. Terrifying how much so.
|by Anonymous||reply 76||07/31/2013|
There is a long list of British actors ending with Jude Law but including:
Kristin Scott Thomas
They each had about 2-3 years where they seemed to star in every important serious film....and then disappeared.
I suspect if Daniel Craig wasn't playing 007, he'd be on that list by now.
|by Anonymous||reply 77||07/31/2013|
|by Anonymous||reply 78||07/31/2013|
Most of the people in the OP's list are working actors with big films to their names and millions of dollars in their bank accounts.
|by Anonymous||reply 79||07/31/2013|
Hidalgo killed Viggo's career that Eastern Promises couldn't quite revive.
|by Anonymous||reply 80||07/31/2013|
[quote]They each had about 2-3 years where they seemed to star in every important serious film....and then disappeared.
But all of these people are major stars! They may have had their peak and no longer be what they were, but they all got farther than most actors ever will.
|by Anonymous||reply 81||07/31/2013|
Poor thing, R77.
|by Anonymous||reply 82||07/31/2013|
Fact remains that Viggo is an OSCAR NOMINEE. How many actors can say that?
Was also in one of the most successful film trilogies of all time.
These lits are always stupid because almost everyone on them is very successful.
|by Anonymous||reply 83||07/31/2013|
Did anyone mention Billy Zane yet?
|by Anonymous||reply 84||07/31/2013|
Clive Owen is happening, much to my chagrin because I don't like him.
Kristin Scott Thomas happened in France, big time. Perhaps not so much now, but she certainly did, and for way more than ten years which is a lot for an actor.
Ralph Fiennes very much happened, he was everywhere for some six or seven years! And then he seriously lost his hair. Fantastic actor, and that voice!
Joseph Fiennes didn't happen.
Colin Firth happens once in a while, every five or six years. I tell myself stories about Valmont and how it was his downfall. Something about his personal life I'm sure. He was so carefree and then seemed like he was in constant pain.
|by Anonymous||reply 85||07/31/2013|
r78, Colin Firth, really?!? He just hit the peak of his career, something many thought was impossible for him.
Kristin Scott is doing very well in French films thank you very much, she found her calling there.
Of that list only Joseph Fiennes, James Purefoy and Jeremy Northam are nobodies whose own parents wouldn't even recognize them.
|by Anonymous||reply 86||07/31/2013|
Billy Zane never happened, not by a long shot. Dude is creepy.
|by Anonymous||reply 87||07/31/2013|
Come on! Ralph Finnes got an Oscar nom and still gets invited to be in Prestige movies. He could do a lot worse.
What's more Hollywood didn't try to make him happen specifically, shoving him down our throats.
I do remember when Hollywood decided that Skeet Ulrich was a Star. A star who could open a movie. Nothing against the guy, but again, come on!
|by Anonymous||reply 88||07/31/2013|
Still to this day I tend to confuse Skeet Ulrich and Stephen Dorff. Ulrich fared even worse than Dorff did, apparently.
|by Anonymous||reply 89||07/31/2013|
All these hot talented guys, and yet Hollywood consistently gives us the Will Ferrels and Adam Sandlers of the world. WTF
|by Anonymous||reply 90||07/31/2013|
I swear I have no idea who "Skeet Ulrich" is, I knew the name but I was confusing him with Tom Skerrit so had to look him up.
I did like Dorff's minor comeback in Somewhere. Elle Fanning and Sophia Coppolla even if off form is better than nothing.
|by Anonymous||reply 91||07/31/2013|
Many of the Brit actors happened, but they are no longer happening.
|by Anonymous||reply 92||07/31/2013|
If you didn't see the first Scream movie, there is no way you can know who Skeet Ulrich was. And I'm not even sure if it was him or Dorff in As Good as it Gets... Maybe neither, was it Greg Kinnear and that's it? No I'm pretty sure it was... Ulrich? Possibly his one and only comeback.
|by Anonymous||reply 93||07/31/2013|
I hope Sam Worthington comes back. I find him very attractive.
|by Anonymous||reply 94||07/31/2013|
R94, one of your voices is correct.
|by Anonymous||reply 95||07/31/2013|
r90 Ahem, are you forgetting someone?
|by Anonymous||reply 96||07/31/2013|
Also I fear Mads Mikkelsen took Viggo Mortensen's spot.
To think I saw that dreadful De Palma movie called Carlito's Way (how is Al Pacino Puerto Rican I'd like to know????), and the only decent actor of the bunch apart from Luis Guzman was... Viggo Mortensen, truly excellent playing with the accent and everything. Well done.
|by Anonymous||reply 97||07/31/2013|
Poor double Oscar winner Sean Penn, r98!
|by Anonymous||reply 98||07/31/2013|
Why isn't Miss Ronald Regan #1? Go figure queens.
|by Anonymous||reply 99||07/31/2013|
Of course Oliphant deserves to be on the list, and should be confused with the other two, but his name is too different. Also he was lucky to be cast as a drug dealer in that GO movie by Doug "Bourne" Liman (did he have blue hair in that? Perhaps. or maybe just spikey hair), and that's why I remember him.
He also had that storyline with boy Stewart in the Safety of Objects, and again I remember him from that. But mostly the GO movie.
Was he supposed to happen? On what level ? Did Hollywood really try? Because the two films I know him from are semi-indie, and apart from that there's that TV show, with or without Kathy Bates... Not exactly mainstream.
|by Anonymous||reply 100||07/31/2013|
Regarding Ralph Fiennes, R69 wrote, "What's more Hollywood didn't try to make him happen specifically, shoving him down our throats."
Actually, there was a brief period when he was being shoved down our throats. This was after his awesomely-crafted and widely-praised performance in that piece of sentimental schmaltz called "Schindler's List". He was on magazine covers. I recall one cover of GQ where he looked gorgeous that read, "Strange Days will make Ralph Fiennes a Star". I wasn't "Will Strange Days make Ralph Fiennes a Star?" It was a declaration. They were wrong.
|by Anonymous||reply 101||07/31/2013|
Both Colin Farrell and Ryan Reynolds happened. They didn't have the stamina to endure, though.
|by Anonymous||reply 102||07/31/2013|
I had forgotten Sean Penn was in the movie, to be honest (must be the hair). What a terrible, terrible movie. Dahlia was even worse. That's when I vowed out of De Palma forever.
|by Anonymous||reply 103||07/31/2013|
|by Anonymous||reply 104||07/31/2013|
Ralph Fiennes was never a star like Cruise or Pitt (let's not even compare acting abilities), but I certainly went to see everything he was in for a while.
Not because of magazine covers.
He truly was magnetic.
|by Anonymous||reply 105||07/31/2013|
Ralph Fiennes is hung like a donkey. I should know.
|by Anonymous||reply 106||07/31/2013|
Olyphant has carved a decent career as a character actor, specialising in villains, one the public may know the face but not the name of. I think more could be done with his looks.
|by Anonymous||reply 107||07/31/2013|
Ryan Reynbolds never happened. Who knows who he is? Nobody cares. His movies can so easily be avoided, Jason Bateman happened more than he did.
|by Anonymous||reply 108||07/31/2013|
If Ryan Reynolds had happened, Green Lantern would have been a hit.
|by Anonymous||reply 109||07/31/2013|
|by Anonymous||reply 110||07/31/2013|
And Olyphant has a nice name, making it very recognisable. That face is distinctive enough too. And he's a decent actor. He's better off playing villains, those parts are much more intreresting anyway.
|by Anonymous||reply 111||07/31/2013|
r109 Do you know a good divorce lawyer?
|by Anonymous||reply 112||07/31/2013|
R105, why did you bump a thread that had two responses a minute before your bump?
|by Anonymous||reply 113||07/31/2013|
R107, "Voldemort" is French for "Dick of death." True story.
|by Anonymous||reply 114||07/31/2013|
And who decided Jason Bateman needed to happen? He's carved an inexplicable career as a WASP with the character traits of a stereotypical wimpy, nebbish, Jewish guy.
The only ones who appear to care are people in Hollywood. The rest of the world shrugs. Put a broomstick in his place and no one would know the difference.
|by Anonymous||reply 115||07/31/2013|
Sophia, that is hilarious except it would be Vitdemort. We'd like to believe it though!
|by Anonymous||reply 116||07/31/2013|
Speaking of which, Justine Bateman aged so terribly. What the hell happened? Truth is I'd rather not know.
|by Anonymous||reply 117||07/31/2013|
r118 I pounded the elastic out of it.
|by Anonymous||reply 118||07/31/2013|
Who opens movies now on name alone? I can't think of one person who is fail proof.
|by Anonymous||reply 119||07/31/2013|
R102, that makes me think of Movieline having Jennifer Jason Leigh on the cover in 1992 billed as "Future Oscar Winner". I remember thinking, "Hardly!"
|by Anonymous||reply 120||07/31/2013|
She should be, r121. She should be. :( Being fucking nominated would be a start.
|by Anonymous||reply 121||07/31/2013|
I will always be amazed that Three Six Mafia has an Oscar and Jennifer Jason Leigh has never even been nominated.
|by Anonymous||reply 122||07/31/2013|
That Don Johnson lookalike from the "Papa Don't Preach" video...
(off to google)
...Alex McArthur, yeah, him.
Also, Charlie, "One (loud, obnoxious)-Note" Day.
|by Anonymous||reply 123||07/31/2013|
R68, Viggo is very talented. Hidalgo did not help his post LOTR career but his work with Cronenberg did remind the world he can act. It seems to me he went out his way to avoid blockbuster movies, thus, why he is not a bigger name today. Jennifer Jason Leigh is a very good actress, I am surprised she did not get an Oscar nod.
|by Anonymous||reply 124||07/31/2013|
I'm with R124. I fucking hate Charlie Day.
|by Anonymous||reply 125||07/31/2013|
Despite his better, recent choices--and DL's resident historical revisionists--McBongo was the "next big thing" who never amounted to much.
Nice that he's appreciated now, though.
|by Anonymous||reply 126||07/31/2013|
Why do so many people like to beat up on real actors?
There are a number of people mentioned such as Law, Mortenson, Farrell and Fiennes who have done really excellent work for a long time. Why should they be sneered at? If they've gained any fame, it was from good or interesting acting and not for some mindless series of publicity grabs. So why should anybody look down on them or see it as some comeuppance humiliation when the first burst of fame inevitably fades?
Yeah sometimes the studios push certain dubious young newbies as the next new stars and it doesn't take but that's a different kettle of neurotic fish.
The business of fame and the business of acting are two separate things. It's not fair to some actors that we are all so fame obsessed these days.
|by Anonymous||reply 127||07/31/2013|
[quote]Most of the people in the OP's list are working actors with big films to their names and millions of dollars in their bank accounts
We aren't measuring household income here.
|by Anonymous||reply 128||07/31/2013|
I don't think Hollywood ever tried to make Olyphant happen. He's never really been in big budget features other than one of the Die Hards (which is Bruce's show). Plus he is content being a "working" actor. He'll do the talk shows to promote his work, but keeps his family out of the spotlight at all costs.
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|by Anonymous||reply 130||07/31/2013|
Ryan Phillippe, who hasn't had a decent gig in years.
|by Anonymous||reply 131||07/31/2013|
As if anyone could ever happen more than starring in that great television masterpiece Saved By The Bell; playing the complex role of Jesse Spano (honor student/Slater's girlfriend/feminist/dance phenom/substance abuser).
"I'm so excited"
|by Anonymous||reply 132||07/31/2013|
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|by Anonymous||reply 133||07/31/2013|
r134 Bingo. His films barely make a buck.
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|by Anonymous||reply 135||07/31/2013|
r136 Big deal. I killed the Tidy Bowl Man.
|by Anonymous||reply 136||07/31/2013|
I don't think Hollywood tried very hard to make Elizabeth Berkley happen. She got just the one shot with Showgirls, and then promptly became a laughing stock.
|by Anonymous||reply 137||07/31/2013|
Everybody on this list is a working actor. Most of them have been doing it a long time. Not everybody is meant to be a super-star. Nothing wrong with being just a working actor.
|by Anonymous||reply 138||07/31/2013|
|by Anonymous||reply 139||07/31/2013|
R139 Darling, I believe that you're missing the point of the thread.
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|by Anonymous||reply 141||07/31/2013|
Mary Elizabeth Mastrantonio
|by Anonymous||reply 142||07/31/2013|
Steven Bauer is pure fuckability
|by Anonymous||reply 143||07/31/2013|
I think some of these actors have held back stardom because they weren't interested in doing the types of movies that make you a big star. I'd put Viggo in that camp, and Gosling is famous for resisting mainstream Hollywood films. Most of the stuff he does is art house city. I think Olyphant was smart, found much better roles on TV in Deadwood and Justified, and is making a nice career there.
But some of these guys, especially Brits, were heavily pushed to be stars. Ralph Fiennes, for sure, was given the star treatment, but couldn't sell a thing, so he started doing more character stuff again. No one got faster star treatment than Colin Farrell-he was cast in big roles after Joel Schumacher showed other directors dailies of Farrell in Tiger Land. He landed like five major movies before Tiger Land was even released. Ewan McGregor and Jude Law definitely went the stardom route and failed. Ewan can't do an American accent, and Law just doesn't have the charisma, plus he let himself go bald, and he is not a sexy bald man. All these guys continue to work because they can act, but Hollywood was hoping they would be more.
And. I think male actors more than ever are finding themselves getting aged out of roles. Guys like Fiennes and Clive Owen are now in their 50's, and the leads are going more to men 30 to 45. The superhero hero craze isn't allowing male stars to maintain their stardom as long as they used to, IMO.
|by Anonymous||reply 144||07/31/2013|
Yes, R140! WHET Timothy Hutton?
|by Anonymous||reply 145||07/31/2013|
Most actors have a 5-7 year shelf life. Then they struggle - there's always the new next hot younger thing. For both men and women.
|by Anonymous||reply 146||07/31/2013|
Gosling doesn't make movies that are supposed to be blockbusters. Also, he has severall excellent performances on his resume.
|by Anonymous||reply 147||07/31/2013|
Ewan's American accent really is appalling. I've always found him extremely wooden but I liked him in Beginners/the film so didn't mind the accent and he finally gave a performance I loved in The Impossible, on a par with Watts brilliance.
|by Anonymous||reply 148||07/31/2013|
As much as it pains me to say it: Zac Efron.
|by Anonymous||reply 149||07/31/2013|
Nepotism gives you an extra three or four years.
|by Anonymous||reply 150||07/31/2013|
Ewan McGregor was always eye candy. He shouldn't have left Europe, though. America is not his thing. I started watching the Men who stared at Goats and kept thinking: what???? It wasn't just his accent, even his posture, his size, the way he looks... He couldn't be more European/Scottish if he tried.
|by Anonymous||reply 151||08/01/2013|
Well I think Colin Farrell shouldn't be on the original list. There are guys like him, or Jude Law who I happen to like a lot, or Ewan McGregor, James McAvoy, and even Jake Gyllenhaal McBongo, and Ryan Gosling, who have sort of plateaued.
They're in that second tier, not the big guns, not Leo or Matt Damon, Mark Wahlberg, or Pitt, or even Tom Hanks or Clooney, or but they are very good actors, have made some bad choices, but still are actors who are respected and generally liked, and have a fan base.
There's sort of an ebb and flow to it all anyone I named in that second tier could get struck by lightning and get another acting nomination. I feel bad Clive Owen didn't happen because I really like him. But look at Ben Affleck. He resurrected his career in spectacular style. With The Town and with Argo, he proved two things: He can't act, and he's a really good director.
|by Anonymous||reply 152||08/01/2013|
R78 Those actors are on stage most of the time. They have classical training from theater schools like the Royal Academy. They don't really need Hollywood.
|by Anonymous||reply 153||08/01/2013|
R145 is the only one right about Viggo Mortensen. The man has been consistently acting since the late 80s and if you look at the movies he's done, they appear to be deliberately chosen. If Viggo wanted to, he could have gone all the way, but he chose not to and worked on projects that were smaller and more cerebral. Give the man credit where credit is due.
|by Anonymous||reply 154||08/01/2013|
|by Anonymous||reply 155||08/01/2013|
Jason Patric. Hollywood really tried to push him in the 90s and audiences did not take to him.
Matthew Modine aged unsuccessfully out of sweet young man parts.
Ryan Phillippe, again.
Ryan Reynolds is a bland hunk with no spark.
|by Anonymous||reply 156||08/01/2013|
|by Anonymous||reply 157||08/01/2013|
All of the people the bitter OP listed make a very good living as actors. They make and continue to make more money than most people even can hope for doing something they at least enjoy.
Because they are not international film box office stars the OP has designated them "failures"
Some of the best actors, the most talented actors on the planet never became or never cared about becoming the next Julia Roberts or the next Robert Redford.
OP's premise is hopelessly ignorant, bitter and arrogant.
The DL Trifecta!
|by Anonymous||reply 158||08/01/2013|
R159 - it was from a link. OK, dearest?
The OP just copied and pasted.
Now fuck off.
|by Anonymous||reply 159||08/01/2013|
You miss the point r159. This is not about working actors but actors who were heavily promoted as the next big thing by Hollywood, to which audiences responded with a collective yawn.
|by Anonymous||reply 160||08/01/2013|
R159, the OP did not assemble that list; the writers of the article cited did.
Please do try to keep up, dear.
|by Anonymous||reply 161||08/01/2013|
This reminds me of when I read Helter Skelter. Bugliosi talks about Sharon's friend, "the actress Joanna Petit." in parentheses, he noted that she was "Mrs Alex Cord." I was like, huh? Did she play a role in a famous movie where her character was Mrs Alex Cord, like "McCabe and Mrs. Miller"?
No. Alex Cord was one of those "stars" who was going to happen any day now back in 1969.
He looked like a 70s porn star in this Italian horror film
|by Anonymous||reply 162||08/01/2013|
|by Anonymous||reply 163||08/01/2013|
I can't believe they didn't include Jake Gyllenhaal in the list.
|by Anonymous||reply 164||08/01/2013|
I see the Armie Hammer/Robin Thicke Troll has finally shown up.
|by Anonymous||reply 165||08/01/2013|
Wasn't Jason Patric quite obnoxious?
|by Anonymous||reply 166||08/01/2013|
He either is or was addicted to narcotics, R167.
|by Anonymous||reply 167||08/01/2013|
r140 has the three best examples in this thread. I remember when "Legends of the Fall" and the horrible "Sabrina" remake were released; Gene Siskel practically creamed his pants over Julia Ormand, daring to compare her to Ingrid Bergman.
|by Anonymous||reply 168||08/01/2013|
No one compares to Ingrid Bergman.
|by Anonymous||reply 169||08/01/2013|
I think we used to have a thread on 90's actors who never happened.
It's kind of interesting to see old Movieline or Vanity Fair Hollywood issues and the actors who were hyped as the next big thing. Most of them were never heard from again.
|by Anonymous||reply 170||08/01/2013|
I love old Movieline issues with nobody actors (Jonathon Schaech...) being hyped and smaller mentions of actors who did make it big; I seem to remember those mags were right about Witherspoon (until recently) and Clooney.
|by Anonymous||reply 171||08/01/2013|
To the posters who signed as Blake Lively and Kate Hudson: W&W (the old standard) worthy, but not the format that makes sense for nomination. Wanted you to know you made me laugh, though, and made it worth wading through the now-ubiquitous assholes who crash every thread to tell other posters how stupid and wrong they are.
|by Anonymous||reply 172||08/01/2013|
[quote]No one compares to Ingrid Bergman.
One notable exception.
|by Anonymous||reply 173||08/01/2013|
I knew it! Still, Ingrid Bergman.
|by Anonymous||reply 174||08/01/2013|
|by Anonymous||reply 175||08/01/2013|
|by Anonymous||reply 176||08/01/2013|
[quote]There are a number of people mentioned such as Law, Mortenson, Farrell and Fiennes who have done really excellent work for a long time. Why should they be sneered at?
I think a lot of the names mentioned are the One Hit Wonders of the acting world, people who got that one big role and were never heard from again, but I agree, most of them are people who continue to work, and except when it came to promoting their movies, Hollywood never really tried to make most of them happen.
Shia LaBeouf is the poster boy for this thread. Hollywood did try to shove him down our throats long before there was any obvious reason to do so.
Interesting that about 80% of the names tossed out so far are males.
|by Anonymous||reply 177||08/01/2013|
I liked carlito's Way, but yes, Al Pacino's accent was horrid.
|by Anonymous||reply 178||08/01/2013|
[quote]Like remember when Milo Ventimiglia was getting big for a moment? poor guy
Milo is in that Kidman Grace Kelly movie. He is just too hot to go away altogether, there will always be a place for him, if not the A list.
|by Anonymous||reply 179||08/01/2013|
Thank you, R159. You are a voice of reason.
|by Anonymous||reply 180||08/01/2013|
James Van Der Beek. He even tried a "comeback" last year in "Don't Trust the B. In Apt 3C", basically doing Neil Patrick Harris' act from the "Harold & Kumar" movies. That Frankenstein forehead will never make him a star.
|by Anonymous||reply 181||08/01/2013|
[quote]That Frankenstein forehead will never make him a star.
Will it never hindered NPH much.
|by Anonymous||reply 182||08/01/2013|
R159: That was an obvious linked article, not necessarily the OP's "bitter" opinion. What a bunch of crybabies there are trolling DL now. These actors don't give a fuck about you. This is a gossip forum! Grow up.
|by Anonymous||reply 183||08/01/2013|
Zac Efron owns this thread.
|by Anonymous||reply 184||08/01/2013|
What R140, R156 and R157 said.
Also, R102, point taken
|by Anonymous||reply 185||08/01/2013|
The 1996 VF Hollywood issue makes this point quite well.
|by Anonymous||reply 186||08/01/2013|
I have this feeling that Jude Law got tired of being so handsome.
|by Anonymous||reply 187||08/02/2013|
That VF Hollywood '96 cover really makes me feel my age. God, all those guys were so young and fresh-looking. As was I, back then!
|by Anonymous||reply 188||08/02/2013|
[quote]To the posters who signed as Blake Lively and Kate Hudson: W&W (the old standard) worthy, but not the format that makes sense for nomination.
Yep... which is why W&W has always been bullshit. Not about funny, organic responses that amuse you in a thread, but "look at me" posts crafted to be funny out of their normal context.
|by Anonymous||reply 189||08/02/2013|
Jake Gyllenhaal was pushed hard, but he has no charisma and a flat, monotone way of speaking. He just didn't have the right stuff.
Shia Lebeouf was probably the most egregious case of an actor being pushed down our throats in recent memory. Not terribly attractive, one-note actor and major mental problems. I don't know what the Hollywood machine was thinking trying to push him as the next big thing.
Colin Farrell and Ewan McGregor, despite never quite reaching A-List status, will always get plenty of work.
|by Anonymous||reply 190||08/02/2013|
OMFG, R14/R114, could you stop with the friggin nagging already?
Jesus Christ, just relax and stop acting like such a friggin hall monitor, FFS!
|by Anonymous||reply 191||08/02/2013|
So who are all those guys on the VF cover at R188's link?
A couple of the non-famous ones are vaguely familiar, but others?
Left to right, I've got:
somebody kinda familiar
Leo [forgot how young he was back then!]
Benicio Del Toro
another familiar guy [who reminds me of a thin Chris Penn]
David Arquette, roflmao
and Johnny Depp-lookalike Skeet Ulrich
|by Anonymous||reply 192||08/02/2013|
The nobody is Jonathon Schaech, who was very good-looking in a beach-boy version of Peter Gallagher, and married Christina Applegate at some point.
|by Anonymous||reply 193||08/02/2013|
|by Anonymous||reply 194||08/02/2013|
You mean Willy Brand?
|by Anonymous||reply 195||08/02/2013|
happen as fuckin WHAT? what julia roberts used to be. make all kinds of generic box office shit? the goal is to do good work, get acclaim, the oscar, keep working, work with auteurs... it's a lame statement "hollywood tried to make happen"
|by Anonymous||reply 196||08/02/2013|
Minnie Driver Andie MacDowell Eva Mendez
Basically, anyone now stuck for life in cosmetic commercials or television roles...
|by Anonymous||reply 197||08/02/2013|
Gosling gave some great performances earlier on in his career, but in the last 2 years all he does is make me yawn. I think people are catching up on the fact that he has no range and that he is a smug, fake douche.
Clive Owen ruined that Children of Men movie for me. He was so terrible in it. Watch the same thing happening with Gravity. Clooney and Bullock are not character actors and Clooney is one of the worst actors out there. Don't know why directors rather go for A-listers than talented, good actors. Ruins the whole movie.
|by Anonymous||reply 198||08/02/2013|
None of the actors on that list have any charisma what so ever. I still don't know why Hollywood tried to make Sam Worthington happen.
Taylor Lautner's problem is that he's to effeminate. I think it makes him endearing but it has't worked for him so far.
|by Anonymous||reply 199||08/02/2013|
Benicio Del Toro
|by Anonymous||reply 200||08/02/2013|
I remember they were really pushing Skeet Ulrich. Hard.
Michael Rappaport is a blast from the past. Can't believe he ever warranted a Vanity Fair cover.
Oh, the 90s.
|by Anonymous||reply 201||08/02/2013|
Michael Rappaport... Who is this man??
|by Anonymous||reply 202||08/02/2013|
Speaking of Jonathan Schaech...weht him? He was one of the hottest guys to ever grace the screen (even though he couldn't act his way out of a paper bag)
|by Anonymous||reply 203||08/02/2013|
"Jake Gyllenhaal was pushed hard, but he has no charisma and a flat, monotone way of speaking. He just didn't have the right stuff."
Am I the only one here who likes him? I saw him in a movie he did when he was 19 or so called October Sky. He was charming and adorable in it. I also liked him in BBM. His problem is that Hollywood keeps trying to make him into a rom-com guy or an action star. He needs to stick to drama.
|by Anonymous||reply 204||08/02/2013|
Agreed, R206. Our cute Andrew Garfield is headed in a similar direction, but that is a topic for another thread.
|by Anonymous||reply 205||08/02/2013|
I liked Gyllenhaal in [italic]End of Watch[/italic]. Hollywood knows how to make money of blockbuster action movies and rom-coms, so they try to shove good-looking guys into those genres. It doesn't always work.
|by Anonymous||reply 206||08/02/2013|
[quote]Michael Rappaport... Who is this man??
My favorite role of his is the ebonics-spouting producer who thinks he understands black movie audiences in Spike Lee's "Bamboozled".
I seem to remember he had a relationship with Lili Taylor (another actor who didn't happen, although she deserved to) that ended very badly--as in, restraining order.
|by Anonymous||reply 207||08/02/2013|
Always loved Lili Taylor. She happened under the radar, shall we say. For some reason, I've always felt she was Italian or Portuguese (must be the Mystic Pizza element).
A restraining order... Good for her that he's out. His face transpires anger management issues.
|by Anonymous||reply 208||08/02/2013|
The only thing r159 was wrong about was who composed thistle stupid list.
The rest of you are wrong for taking the article and its premises seriously.
those people are all enjoying careers most would kill for.
|by Anonymous||reply 209||08/02/2013|
Have I happened?
|by Anonymous||reply 210||08/02/2013|
|by Anonymous||reply 211||08/02/2013|
Be that as it may, Liv Tyler still happened more than Dorff or Ulrich.
|by Anonymous||reply 212||08/02/2013|
Has anyone added Hillary Swank to the list yet?
|by Anonymous||reply 213||08/02/2013|
Holy crap, does Tim Roth ever look angry and dangerous in that pic! He looks soooo much better blonder and older.
I've seen Michael Rappaport around a few times, but couldn't remember his name or any specific roles. I picture him as being a sweet-natured young cop, trying to talk a bad cop out of doing bad things; has he ever done that?
Also, I'm pretty sure he voiced a character in one of the Grand Theft Auto games.
|by Anonymous||reply 214||08/02/2013|
Emile Hirsch - was the promising IT boy in Into the Wild, but tanked his career with Speed Racer.
|by Anonymous||reply 215||08/02/2013|
Ryan Reynolds as been in something like 39 movies, several TV shows, several made for TV movies, I hardly call that failed for a 37 year old actor. No he isn't an A list type actor that they build movies around but not sure I would call him anywhere near close to failed.
|by Anonymous||reply 216||08/02/2013|
[quote]No he isn't an A list type actor that they build movies around but not sure I would call him anywhere near close to failed.
Except that's exactly what Hollywood has been trying to do with Ryan for the last few years. Build a movie around him. But audiences failed to show up. He TRIED for the A-list but it just didn't happen. Which is what the thread is about.
|by Anonymous||reply 217||08/02/2013|
Jake Gyllenhaal was never really a talented actor.
Garret Hedlund is trying to make it, but he needs to pick better projects. Tron and On The Road were awful movies and he was not that great in them. I liked him a lot in Country Strong, never understood why that movie got such negative reviews. All the main leads were amazing and the soundtrack was terrific. Maybe there were some bumbs with the story, but overall I liked the movie a lot.
|by Anonymous||reply 218||08/02/2013|
I know none of you bitches have added me to this thread because THE ENTIRE WORLD cannot stop talking about me. Jealous?
|by Anonymous||reply 219||08/02/2013|
The entire world also talked about OJ Simpson, dear.
|by Anonymous||reply 220||08/02/2013|
Penelope Ann Miller
|by Anonymous||reply 221||08/02/2013|
Jonathan Schaech was a blindingly beautiful young man and a decent actor. He's totally off the radar now.
|by Anonymous||reply 222||08/02/2013|
[quote]Jason Patric. Hollywood really tried to push him in the 90s and audiences did not take to him.
Maybe, but he took to drugs and it killed his career.
|by Anonymous||reply 223||08/03/2013|
[quote] I liked him a lot in Country Strong, never understood why that movie got such negative reviews.
Me either. What could have turned off audiences?
|by Anonymous||reply 224||08/03/2013|
What about Tom Everett Scott, Jonathon Schaech's costar in That Thing You Do? He was supposed to be "The Next Tom Hanks" but he didn't really pan out.
|by Anonymous||reply 225||08/03/2013|
[quote]I think some of these actors have held back stardom because they weren't interested in doing the types of movies that make you a big star.
Where the FUCK do you get retarded ideas like this? Are you INSANE!? Actors who manage to get cast as ANYTHING in big Hollywood films have worked their asses off to get there, and there has NEVER EVER BEEN ONE who would not run over their own grandmother to be a big SUPERSTAR! You sound criminally naive.
|by Anonymous||reply 226||08/03/2013|
I don't think Jason Patric would have made it even without the drug issue. He was handsome, and was a pretty good actor, but he never showed star power in any role with the possible exception of The Lost Boys. He definitely got the big push, though that ended with the disastrous Speed sequel.
|by Anonymous||reply 227||08/03/2013|
Patric was also rumored to be a gargantuan asshole, which didn't help either.
|by Anonymous||reply 228||08/03/2013|
|by Anonymous||reply 229||08/03/2013|
What happened with Alicia Silverstone? She was, and then she wasn't.
|by Anonymous||reply 230||08/04/2013|
What happened to Alicia Silverstone? What happened to all these actors and 99% of all actors: they tried to become big stars and failed because only a tiny, tiny percentage of actors will ever be big stars. It's purely a number games and almost entirely random.
|by Anonymous||reply 231||08/04/2013|
Doesn't Matthew Perry own this thread?
|by Anonymous||reply 232||08/04/2013|
|by Anonymous||reply 233||08/04/2013|
Many are listing actors/actresses with current careers that may just be in a slump at the moment.
That said, I would name Sam Rockwell.
|by Anonymous||reply 234||08/04/2013|
Was there really an effort to make Matthew Perry a big movie star? Or just a viable comic actor on the screen? That didn't work either, but there not quite the same efforts.
|by Anonymous||reply 235||08/04/2013|
Sam Rockwell may not be a big A-lister, but he sure will have along career.
|by Anonymous||reply 236||08/04/2013|
I would like to see a discussion about A listers who try to ACT and fail to accomplish that movie after movie.
Then we can talk about the REAL actors who tried to be A listers and failed.
|by Anonymous||reply 237||08/04/2013|
R235, I was waiting for Diana Scarwid's name to appear. Thank you.
Taylor Lautner happened. It was a short spell on the A-List, and I think his acting is disgraceful and laughable, but the fact is he was one of the three leads in one of film industry's biggest franchises.
Also unworthy of inclusion on this thread, because basically the statistics show that names themselves don't really open films anymore, with maybe a handful of exceptions, far less than H'wood would like to acknowledge: *Sam Worthington was the lead in "Avatar". He will be the lead in the sequel. How many actors would donate their left nut to the lead in these films? *Jude Law is doing more stage work, to great critical acclaim and financial success. He is happy being a character actor, and he's excellent, the real deal. Same can be said for Ralph Fiennes. Both will likely have Oscars on their shelves before all is said and done. *Colin Farrell. Fantastic in "In Bruges". He'll work as long as he wants to. He's very well-known as a name by the general public, and one right film role could catapult him to the first tier. *Sam Rockwell. Doesn't he think of himself as a character actor? (By the way, he's incredibly good in "The Way, Way Back".) He disappears so completely into his roles that it he sometimes is unrecognizable from one film to the next. A-List actors don't do that, but the great supporting ones do. *Timothy Olphant is doing great work on "Justified". And right now, great work on television mostly trumps the same on film, and certainly reaches a bigger audience. *Ryan Reynolds has been mismanaged. He's hilarious. Put him in the right comedy, and the magic will happen. *Why is anyone listing Jake G.? He won a BAFTA and has been an Osar nominee, in a seminal film. "End of Watch" and "Zodiac" were also excellent, and wasn't the crappy "The Day After Tomorrow" a big box office success? I think "Source Code" also did fairly well. *McBongo was doing well with Rom-Coms. He hated them, which made me respect him far more than I did initially, around "A Time to Kill" time, when the media worked OT to make him something. Turns out he's a character actor in a leading man's body, and right now he is doing great work. Really liked him in "Mud" and "Magic Mike". *Ryan Gosling obviously chooses not to be in studio dreck. And "Crazy, Stupid, Love" got lots of attention and made very decent money. And he was charming in it. *Anna Kendrick? Please. So talented. Oscar-nominated. And everyone who missed "Pitch Perfect" is now seeing it on demand, and loving it. It's become a cult film. (And has spawned a radio hit.) Add all that to the fact that she was a supporting player in the "Twilight" films. *Kristin Scott Thomas: working in England and France. Saw her in "Old Times" in the West End this past spring, and she was stunningly good. Got an Olivier nod. She's an actress of a certain age that Hollywood has no interest in, and she knows it, so she's found great work elsewhere.
This list should be dedicated to those actors who tried to make a flash but didn't have the charisma or talent or desire (Meg Tilly) to sustain it. And if Hayden Christensen hadn't done those shit "Star Wars" prequels, he would own this thread. (And he was so good in "Shattered Glass", which no one has seen.)
*Skeet Ulrich *Gretchen Mol *Stephen Dorff (but he still has gas in his tank) *Timothy Hutton (despite an Oscar) *Julia Ormond *Most of the cast of Grey's Anatomy, which should be very thankful for that show's residuals...
And what is going on with Casey Affleck?
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