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What happened to manners and morals?

I'm sick of the lack of class that has permeated our society. Being coarse is a badge of honor. Having a dirty mind is seen as cool. Nobody applauds decency and good manners. And our unhealthy obsession with sex is reflected in this mayoral candidate and his concubine. Too much filth being mainstreamed and not enough emphasis on the clean, proper and emotionally uplifting. Sex is a wonderful thing, but its been so animalized. Not enough emphasis on pure romance.

we need more gentlemen and ladies who have respect for themselves and who carry themselves with good manners and class. I think Ellen is a great example of someone with great values who knows what is decent for the public and what isn't. Drew Carey is another one, as are Rachael rey and adell.

by Anonymousreply 7208/04/2013

Tim Gunn is another good example.

by Anonymousreply 207/30/2013

OP = Dan Quayle.

by Anonymousreply 307/30/2013

OP is the Roger Octopus Troll who has been on a prissy pearl clutching rampage lately, hysterically decrying internet gossip and "sex pigs."

by Anonymousreply 407/30/2013

Wow! Way to stick in yet another thread about Weiner; that makes about 40,000 now. But, this was pretty cleve in making the reader think it was about something else.

by Anonymousreply 507/30/2013

It's wrong... [italic]shockingly[/italic] wrong!

by Anonymousreply 607/30/2013

Ellen is a phoney bitch. It's all an act.

by Anonymousreply 707/30/2013

Adele?

Are you kidding?

by Anonymousreply 807/30/2013

Whatever happen to class?

by Anonymousreply 907/30/2013

Rachel Ray once made a casserole with hot dogs; is THAT what you consider class?

by Anonymousreply 1007/30/2013

Do some of you elderly gays around here see Nancy Reagan staring back when you look in the mirror?

by Anonymousreply 1207/30/2013

OP be the kind of person you want to see more of. Set an example.

by Anonymousreply 1307/30/2013

I agree Mr. OP.

by Anonymousreply 1407/30/2013

I have noticed a complete lack of patience both on the road and in public situations. People have this mindset that they must be instantly gratified.

by Anonymousreply 1507/30/2013

This is a joke, right?

Ellen? Really? Manners and morals?

by Anonymousreply 1607/30/2013

I'm with you OP. I hate that fowl language is accepted in all forms of media. ...it's a constant barrage of bleep, bleep, bleep, censoring of fuck,etc..

by Anonymousreply 1707/31/2013

[quote]fowl language

I agree. If I hear one more rooster say cock-a-doodle-do on TV I'm going to writ the FCC

by Anonymousreply 1807/31/2013

You had me until "Ellen"....

by Anonymousreply 1907/31/2013

w&w R18

LOL!

by Anonymousreply 2007/31/2013

I agree with you OP. I'm afraid it's only going to get worse with social media.

by Anonymousreply 2107/31/2013

Move to Japan.

by Anonymousreply 2207/31/2013

She's a shItbag cunt.

by Anonymousreply 2307/31/2013

It's that dadburn rock and roll rubbish!

by Anonymousreply 2407/31/2013

Hint for everyone: don't drive to Menard's after priming wood siding.

"Looks like somebody was painting!"

No, I was sucking dicks,. Just ring up my purchase, Cunt!

by Anonymousreply 2507/31/2013

OP; Those of us who have manners and class are still here. We are the majority, but we just don't speak up, usually.

I don't know if these are the end times; but if they are, hang in there...don't surrender your higher self just for the sake of being popular. Remember, all that's going on has been prophesied. We are advised to keep the faith.

by Anonymousreply 2607/31/2013

Did you see Richie clutch Rosie's bosom on Real Housewives of New Jersey Sunday night?

I was shocked I tell you, shocked@! It seems he thinks because she is lesbian it was OK.

Apart from that scene, the show was a perfect example of polite decorum that of which even Nancy Reagan would approve.

by Anonymousreply 2707/31/2013

R12 & R18 You guys really made me laugh. Thanks I needed that. OP The examples that you listed Ellen, Rachel Ray, Drew Carey. I believe that you have loud and goofy confused with manners and morals. Ellen knows how to cater to the elderly audience that helps to keep her program on the air. Although having Mario Lopez appear on the show in his underwear is probably not everyone's idea of class. I would certainly love to hear more about your suggestions for what would be "clean and proper". I'm also curious OP; hopefully this doesn't offend you. How old are you?

by Anonymousreply 2807/31/2013

I agree with OP. There ain't no ladies now, there's only pigs and whores, and even kids'll knock you down so's they can pass. No-one even says Oops when they're passing their gas.

by Anonymousreply 2907/31/2013

R17, what do have against poultry and their language???

("fowl" language; JHC...)

Agree with OP in general, but posts like R17 make me think I'd rather see poor manners and loose morals than illiteracy.

by Anonymousreply 3007/31/2013

OP are you Mamma Morton or Velma Kelly?

by Anonymousreply 3107/31/2013

Adelle= Emily Post? GTFO! Before what was basically something private, I'm sure most people thought Weiner was very "moral"... and I put it in quotes because the sliding scale of it is huge. I find a cum dumpster like Sydney Leathers way less on the moral scale than Weiner, all his crap was consensual with other adults [and I'm sure wifey knew AND she was the one picking his spank bank whores] Both him and Clinton, when asked should have said MYOFB... because they lied at first; its what got them in popolitico hot water.

by Anonymousreply 3208/01/2013

To see them - indiscriminate women, it pains me more than I can say - the lack of taste that they display.

by Anonymousreply 3308/01/2013

I used to have class. I was raised in a wealthy family. I was cut off and now I am a trashy white asshole. Oh well.

by Anonymousreply 3408/01/2013

Using the biggest phony of all time...Ellen...as your example of someone with manners...oh my sides. She is a colossal bitch to all who work for/with her.

by Anonymousreply 3508/01/2013

I blame the internets.

Infinitely much easier to scream shit at people when you're anonymous.

And, sweetheart: manners also come with proper English usage.

by Anonymousreply 3608/01/2013

OP I could not have said it better. This country is flushing down the toilet - swirling into the gutter with its disposal, embarrassing "culture" and a stupid, non-communicative generation a violent neanderthals.

by Anonymousreply 3708/01/2013

Well don't look at me. I always say "excuse me" when I loudly force out a fart in a crowded elevator.

by Anonymousreply 3808/01/2013

Who's gonna tell the OP it's not 1930?

by Anonymousreply 3908/01/2013

R4 is ABSOLUTELY right, R11. One only has to look at the Cheyenne Jackson thread to smell your self-loathing prissy stink all over it.

by Anonymousreply 4008/01/2013

What's the deal with Ellen? Is she not like she is on her show?? The most surprising thing I heard about her is that she smokes.

by Anonymousreply 4108/01/2013

[quote]Who's gonna tell the OP it's not 1930?

1930? As if. Someone should tell him that it is not 1830.

by Anonymousreply 4208/01/2013

r18 made me laugh out loud.

by Anonymousreply 4308/01/2013

OP the US has never cultivated civilized behavior. Many pride themselves on being "natural", "real", etc., that is non-effete. What you see is the end product of the anti-intellectualism that has been rampant in US society since the country was founded. When politicians can belittle people for being educated and paint themselves as "just folk" , it gives license for those without "manners" or who view them as "prissy" or unnecessary.

by Anonymousreply 4408/01/2013

Oh, oh! I've got one. This just makes me furious. You know when men use women's liberation as an excuse not to kill bugs for them? Oh I just hate that! I don't care what anybody says, I think the man should have to kill the bug!

by Anonymousreply 4508/01/2013

Manners and morals don't sell; sex does. Thus, in our commercial society, sex, animalistic or not, wins over manners and morals. Just the way it is.

For the wisdom of that path, simply consider the fate of most of those who do porn or escort work.

by Anonymousreply 4608/01/2013

R7, if I dislike Ellen about anything, it's that she crossed the picket line when screenwriters were striking. I didn't appreciate that 1% bullshit.

by Anonymousreply 4708/01/2013

R20, you've got to be fucking kidding.

You're why this place sucks shit now.

OP, I hope, was a parody. If not, he/she is equally responsible. But I'm going with parody. Don't most prissy-ass Miss Grundy types look up the spelling of the celebrities they supposedly think make good role models?

by Anonymousreply 4808/01/2013

I agree with OP. I despise what society has become. Everything is fleeting and utterly disposable. Exhibiting lack of self-control, narcissism, and being trashy and crass are lauded and rewarded. Women dress like $5-per-blow-job hookers. Entitlement (with its signature line, "This is unacceptable") is the norm. Everyone is a victim with no personal responsbility taken for one's actions. My parents were children of the 40s and 50s who were taught to show respect for others, and they passed that mindset down to my siblings and me. I definitely should've been born a few generations earlier.

by Anonymousreply 5008/01/2013

Lulu

by Anonymousreply 5108/01/2013

Let's all become Mormons. We'll dress nicely, speak morally and be polite. It will cover up our insanity.

by Anonymousreply 5208/01/2013

It's true, people had better manners in the past. My parents and grandparents were polite and mannerly in everything they did. Even when they discriminated against black people, they put a nice smile on their faces and said, "go on, shoo now! I'll give you just enough time to leave this area right now before I call the sheriff, you hear?"

Now they just shoot black people willy nilly; not even so much as a by your leave.

by Anonymousreply 5308/01/2013

What's wrong with dressing nicely and being polite, and not giving into our baser instincts? Not sure what "speaking morally" means, but if it means less cursing and more respect toward others, I'm all for it.

by Anonymousreply 5408/01/2013

[quote]No I am not the OP....though I don't know much about Rachel Rey

Yet you are the only two to call her "Rey" rather than the correct Ray.

by Anonymousreply 5608/01/2013

[quote] Sex is a wonderful thing, but its been so animalized. Not enough emphasis on pure romance.

You realize that sex and romance have never been necessarily tied together? I you think they should be, you're just one step away from the Catholic Church and the Mormons.

What defines the "dirty mind" you object to?

by Anonymousreply 5708/01/2013

I never did mind about the little things.

by Anonymousreply 5808/01/2013

[quote] OP the US has never cultivated civilized behavior.

Oh, yes we did. It was not as large or established as in Europe, but we certainly did have a class of people that produced an Edith Wharton, a Henry James, T. and F. Roosevelt, the Boston Brahmin, among many other less famous, but equally civilized people.

The two world wars ended it.

by Anonymousreply 5908/01/2013

Case closed!

by Anonymousreply 6008/01/2013

[quote]It was not as large or established as in Europe, but we certainly did have a class of people that produced an Edith Wharton, a Henry James, T. and F. Roosevelt, the Boston Brahmin, among many other less famous, but equally civilized people.

The loss of WASP privilege took away their expectation that knowing the right people was enough to have a career, and the real wealth got diluted over the generations. It's hard to pretend to be a British aristocrat when you have no money.

by Anonymousreply 6108/02/2013

Adele has an out-of-wedlock baby with a guy she barely knows. How does that make her a paragon of morals?

by Anonymousreply 6208/04/2013

I agree with OP, but would disagree with his examples. I think Cate Blanchett would be a good example.

by Anonymousreply 6308/04/2013

I agree with OP, as well. Ignore the naysayers - they are, themselves, part of the problem, although they do not want to/cannot bear to admit to it. Don't join with them, OP - you lie with dogs, you get fleas.

And common decency/common courtesy are not things that belong to the 1% exclusively - they love what the hoi polloi has become. They point and sneer - encouraging such stuffs, especially, as they profit from it in so many ways - but it is they who have the means to be truly amoral, as opposed to being simply ignorant, cheap and crude.

by Anonymousreply 6408/04/2013

This is the age of the gross.

by Anonymousreply 6508/04/2013

There is not and has never been anything wrong with having a dirty mind. Sharing one's thoughts at inappropriate times is the problem.

by Anonymousreply 6708/04/2013

I am amused beyond belief to see a thread about morals on this or any gay message board. Manners, yes; morals: GMAFB.

by Anonymousreply 6908/04/2013

Whatever happened to the Grace Kelleys and the Cary Grants of the world?

by Anonymousreply 7008/04/2013

What a classless little skank.

by Anonymousreply 7108/04/2013

Manners: You are talking about formalities that were important in the past to indicate what class you belonged to. The are meaningless to most people so they have been dropped as a waste of time.

There is still plenty of real courtesy when it matters. But we live in a more diverse society and people do have different expectations.

Morality: Morals regarding sex have changed because of birth control. In general we are much more healthy about sexuality today than in the "proper" past you long for. One person's idea of morality is another's idea of sin. Who do you think so decide these things? The Mormon Church?

I don't want anyone who uses the terms "decency" and "dirty mind" and who equates sex with "filth" making moral decisions for me, thanks.

by Anonymousreply 7208/04/2013
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