I never read the first three....can I pick up the narrative thread easily?
Raul (and his tbcjscpctscroc) thread Part IV by request
|by helpful||reply 601||01/29/2016|
Thank you, OP, I knew we could count on you! Raul is legendary on Datalounge, along with his tbcjscpctscroc. And before anybody asks, here's the breakdown:
Thick, Big, Cut, Juicy, Suckable Cuban Papi Cock That Shoots Creamy Ropes Of Cum.
For your entertainment, here's a link to the previous thread.
|by helpful||reply 1||07/26/2013|
|by helpful||reply 2||07/26/2013|
How do we know he's cut? Don't Cubans usually prefer to remain intact?
|by helpful||reply 3||07/26/2013|
Can't let this one go by without adding a theme song.
|by helpful||reply 4||07/26/2013|
This thread is so 2005.
|by helpful||reply 5||07/27/2013|
In The Normal Heart Raul stripped down to the altogether for one scene and the tbcjscpctscroc was on full display for the audience to see. Hundreds of people saw, and can verify that he is, indeed, cut.
Raul's parents are Cuban but he was born in Wilmington, Delaware. In the US in 1970, babies were routinely circumcised, regardless of the religious affiliation of the parents.
|by helpful||reply 6||07/27/2013|
So they started shooting L&O Svu already?
|by helpful||reply 7||07/28/2013|
Why does this thread not come up when I type in Raul Esparza in the "find thread" box?
All the other threads about him come up
|by helpful||reply 8||07/28/2013|
Does anyone detect such a sense of Sadness to him? Company was absolutely his best Perfomance. Maybe cause the character was so close to Raul. I Heard he was crying at the ending song finale after the Times Article came out.
|by helpful||reply 9||07/28/2013|
SVU started filming last week, r7.
r8, I think that's because until you posted it, "Esparza" wasn't anywhere in this thread, so DL's miserable excuse for a search feature couldn't find it. But the thread does show up when you just search "raul". It's just not at the top because DL's miserable excuse for a search feature doesn't know how to put results in any kind of order.
|by helpful||reply 10||07/29/2013|
I never use it. Just go to Google.
|by helpful||reply 11||07/29/2013|
10, Yes I noticed that. I typed in Raul and I finally got here!
|by helpful||reply 12||07/29/2013|
I just type in Raul Esparza in the "look for thread" thing and it still didnt come up!
|by helpful||reply 13||07/29/2013|
Something to do with the Search engines.Even if you type in Raul Esparza Data Lounge in google, it does the same thing.
But if you type in Raul Data Lounge, it will come up on 1st Page
|by helpful||reply 14||07/29/2013|
Never trust and never use the DL search thing. Do as r11 says and use Google.
|by helpful||reply 15||07/29/2013|
Sept 26th-Premiere of Law and Order SVU.
I want to see more Raul/Barba!! I hope he will be in every show!!
So funny when I see Dan Florek. He has been around forever in the Law and Order series.
|by helpful||reply 16||07/29/2013|
How do you get the Things you click on to get to a website or a picture? "urls"
I tried it and it wouldnt take it but yet I have seen it on other threads here
|by helpful||reply 17||07/29/2013|
Like in R1 that thing you click on to get to wherever you have to get to
|by helpful||reply 18||07/29/2013|
When you go to post a reply, r18, you will see, below the box where you type your message, another, smaller box that says "Url:". Copy whatever link you want to post and paste it in that box. Then your link will post at the bottom of your message after you click "save post".
Raul won't be in every episode, that's simply not their format. Not every story ends in a courtroom trial. Besides, he's got to have time off to go be sleazy and smarmy (if short a few feet of intestines, and perhaps a kidney) on Hannibal!
|by helpful||reply 19||07/29/2013|
Thanks! R19 I will try it
I like Raul best as Barba. Dr Chilton kind of creepy but kind of interesting.
The beard hides the throat sagging he is starting to get Although I would think that should be easy plastic surgery
|by helpful||reply 20||07/29/2013|
Okay Everyone talks about Raul's sexy eyes but something about his Lips just turn me on so much
Upper lip comes out just a little more than lower lip. It is way too sexy!
It's the way he talks with his lip and the way he moves. Okay,its everything about him. :-P
|by helpful||reply 21||07/29/2013|
Raul just did 2nd interview with Paul Wontorek this month. Does anyone have a link to it? Its not on Youtube
|by helpful||reply 22||07/30/2013|
Did you look on Broadway.com? (that's Paul Wontorek's site) Maybe it hasn't been posted yet?
|by helpful||reply 23||07/30/2013|
Thanks Just looked. This interview just took place. I loved the first interview on youtube.
Funny, its not on the site but its on youtube. Maybe cause its from a 3 years ago.
I will keep looking for it. Dont even remember how I saw Raul just did 2 interviews with Paul this month
|by helpful||reply 24||07/30/2013|
Wontorek loves him. Raul's Broadway.com videos are always great.
|by helpful||reply 25||07/30/2013|
On the SVU set:
|by helpful||reply 26||07/30/2013|
R26 I assume he's not sitting in the chair as a protest over the omission of the accent mark over the "u" in "Raúl."
|by helpful||reply 27||07/30/2013|
Raul and Michele Esparza together last Wednesday at "Friends in Deed" event.
So nice to see him supportive of her. (Michele is Program Manager for Friends in Deed) who knows whether they are really divorced or not but I can understand why they may say they are divorced even if they are not. It shuts everybody up when everybody wonders why they are still together.
|by helpful||reply 28||07/30/2013|
Was there supposed to be a photo with that, r28?
|by helpful||reply 29||07/30/2013|
There were photos. I dont know how to get the site on here but if you google "Michele Esparza Friends in Deed" it comes up with Links to pictures of people there which includes Michele and Raul. One of the sites says Patrick McMullan, I think.
I saw several pics of Michele and Raul together. and Sarah Jessica Parker too.
|by helpful||reply 30||07/30/2013|
Valentin Hernández, Yaz Hernandez, Raúl Esparza, Michele Esparza El Museo's 2013 Gala May 16, 2013
Saw this too under another Picture with these 4 people
|by helpful||reply 31||07/30/2013|
Lets see if this works This is Michele and Raul at Friends in Deed
|by helpful||reply 32||07/30/2013|
Hate that suit he is wearing.
|by helpful||reply 33||07/31/2013|
Suits he wears on the SVU Set is to die for!
I wonder if they let him keep some. Wouldn't those suits be altered for him? and thusly not be able to use for anyone else?
|by helpful||reply 34||07/31/2013|
Look at how that suit fits in R26
|by helpful||reply 35||07/31/2013|
Was Michele Esparza ever an actress?
|by helpful||reply 36||08/01/2013|
|by helpful||reply 37||08/01/2013|
Michele and Raul at El Museo Gala Event in May 2013
|by helpful||reply 38||08/01/2013|
[quote]Was Michele Esparza ever an actress?
Only when faking orgasms.
|by helpful||reply 39||08/01/2013|
Raul is bisexual. Wouldn't he be the one faking the orgasms with his wife? (or exwife,whatever their story is)
|by helpful||reply 40||08/01/2013|
How do you get the previous post in that gray box when you want to reply?
|by helpful||reply 41||08/01/2013|
Some queen came up with that awful moniker for Raul. It was simply Raul and his bisexual cock, once upon a simpler time.
|by helpful||reply 42||08/01/2013|
R41 There IS a "Help" feature here.
But the answer is you type the word "quote" in brackets () in all lowercase letters before the text you want to quote. And do not hit "enter" and then include more text; only the text before the "enter" will be quoted.
|by helpful||reply 43||08/01/2013|
Wouldn't a bisexual, by definition, have no need to fake it with either sex?
|by helpful||reply 44||08/01/2013|
[quote] Was Michele Esparza ever an actress?
r36: every day of her life
|by helpful||reply 45||08/02/2013|
I would think so R44
Thank You R43
|by helpful||reply 46||08/02/2013|
Know What? I am jealous of Raul and Michele's relationship. Even if there are obvious issues.
I would love to have a "Michele" who still stands by me and would still be there for me after everything Raul has put her thru.
and I would love to have a "Raul" who appreciates the fact that she stood by him and considers her his "best friend"
They still have each other after all this time,whether they be still married or not.
|by helpful||reply 47||08/02/2013|
Papi's official FB page. Some new pics in there, and most of our favorites (feets!)
|by helpful||reply 48||08/02/2013|
|by helpful||reply 49||08/02/2013|
|by helpful||reply 50||08/02/2013|
this has turned from gossip to fangurl blog
|by helpful||reply 51||08/03/2013|
Agreed, r51. Got anything to share to turn it back to gossip?
|by helpful||reply 52||08/03/2013|
If that's really him posting on twitter and instagram then damn, things have changed!
|by helpful||reply 53||08/03/2013|
HaHaHa! Don't worry, it isn't.
|by helpful||reply 54||08/03/2013|
But there are some personal photos on his instagram, including one of his home in Miami posted yesterday.
|by helpful||reply 55||08/04/2013|
His webmaster posted the photos, not Raul. He dislikes social media, doesn't use it himself.
|by helpful||reply 56||08/04/2013|
Raul has a home in Miami? I guess to be near his Parents
|by helpful||reply 57||08/04/2013|
No, he doesn't. They have these things called hotels, maybe you've heard of them? They're very handy when visiting parents.
|by helpful||reply 58||08/04/2013|
Wow, why are you such a bitch, r58? Perfectly reasonable for Raul to have a home in Miami, the place where he grew up and where his parents still live. Plus, someone asked if it was really him tweeting and the webmaster said this:
[quote]Sorry for the confusion. Going forward Raul's tweets will be signed by him. -Karen & Becky
And the next pic is signed by Raul:
[quote]View of the sunset from my home in Miami. -RE
|by helpful||reply 59||08/04/2013|
Hahaha! You must be new to DL for you to call THAT “bitchy”, so I’ll cut you some slack.
All you did was prove what I said all along. Raul doesn’t participate in social media. He (reluctantly) gives pictures to his webmaster (the “Karen & Becky” referred to in your post) along with any comments or captions and they are the ones who do the posting. He doesn’t see the postings or read any of the responses.
He considers Miami his cultural home, but he doesn’t own any property there. His parents do, but Raul can't quite afford it yet.
|by helpful||reply 60||08/04/2013|
well you just know everything don't you r60
betcha feel important
|by helpful||reply 61||08/04/2013|
[quote]He (reluctantly) gives pictures to his webmaster (the “Karen & Becky” referred to in your post) along with any comments or captions and they are the ones who do the posting
Reluctantly? PLEASE!!! He's posing!!!
Things are changing. He's almost 43 and just got two important roles on TV. He's being more open with the Broadway.com videos over the last couple of years, the in-depth interviews and now the instagram pics and tweets. He knows what he's doing and I doubt he's doing it "reluctantly".
|by helpful||reply 62||08/05/2013|
Maybe he meant the view from his Parent's home in Miami
|by helpful||reply 63||08/05/2013|
Really, r62. Eh, enjoy your fantasy.
|by helpful||reply 64||08/05/2013|
If you know everything about Raul then why are you asking for gossip at r52?
|by helpful||reply 65||08/05/2013|
Hahaha, r65. I guess the sarcasm in that post at r52 didn't translate.
|by helpful||reply 66||08/05/2013|
okay. In Reality, how would you even know that was Raul? Its just a picture of a sign from his twitter page
|by helpful||reply 67||08/06/2013|
I had heard a lot of you dont like this song Hallelujah
But I love how Raul sings this song!! Certain notes he hits are beautiful
|by helpful||reply 68||08/06/2013|
I hope that will bring you to Pic That other one did not
in any case, it was a picture of the Pepsi Cola Sign
|by helpful||reply 69||08/06/2013|
|by helpful||reply 70||08/12/2013|
Isnt this lovely. LOL
|by helpful||reply 71||08/15/2013|
Aww! so cute
|by helpful||reply 72||08/15/2013|
Is he still dating that YOUNG film guy from Nantucket Film Festival
|by helpful||reply 73||08/21/2013|
Which guy, r73?
|by helpful||reply 74||08/21/2013|
No, r73. A two-night stand isn't dating.
|by helpful||reply 75||08/29/2013|
I wouldn't mind spending a couple of nights with that big cuban cock of his.
|by helpful||reply 76||08/29/2013|
|by helpful||reply 77||08/30/2013|
He looks really good!
|by helpful||reply 78||08/30/2013|
Weird colors on the group shots. But he looks properly intense.
|by helpful||reply 79||08/30/2013|
Is he really bisexual?
|by helpful||reply 80||08/30/2013|
His wife had to leave him him because his singing voice has so much vibrato that she would have orgasms whenever he sang
|by helpful||reply 81||08/30/2013|
Yes, he's a self-described bisexual who had a hard time letting go of his wife.
|by helpful||reply 82||08/30/2013|
never said bisexual.
gay but married his closest friend
|by helpful||reply 83||08/31/2013|
I think that's right, r83
|by helpful||reply 84||09/02/2013|
when does SVU debut
|by helpful||reply 85||09/12/2013|
September 25th. Two hour season premiere.
|by helpful||reply 86||09/12/2013|
Dr. Chilton is back for season 2
|by helpful||reply 87||09/12/2013|
What's with the Crown?
Between Hannibal and SVU he's gaining a new fanbase. Congrats to the supreme papi!
|by helpful||reply 88||09/13/2013|
The flower crowns are a Hannibal fan thing. They were all wearing them at ComicCon and got the cast and creatives doing it too. Weird, but it's cool the show is finding a fanbase, since it is such a hard sell for normal network audiences.
|by helpful||reply 89||09/13/2013|
Actually in the Times Article Raul DOES say he is Bisexual
|by helpful||reply 90||09/15/2013|
What are you wearing!
|by helpful||reply 91||09/18/2013|
Looks like he and Danny and Dean decided to have a contest. I think Raul wins.
|by helpful||reply 92||09/18/2013|
Cheyenne Jackson, meh. Where is RAUL'S video?! HUH??!!!
|by helpful||reply 93||09/18/2013|
|by helpful||reply 94||09/18/2013|
Short clip of Raul talking and looking sexy
|by helpful||reply 95||09/18/2013|
Noticed the Bulge too..
|by helpful||reply 96||09/21/2013|
That is one bad outfit
Get a sylist papi
|by helpful||reply 97||09/23/2013|
i meant in the link at r91
|by helpful||reply 98||09/23/2013|
He's in the SVU intro!
|by helpful||reply 99||09/25/2013|
That was actually really good! I was used to the sleepwalking performance of Hargitay, but she nailed it.
If the show weren't on its 15th season she would get some Emmy attention for that episode.
|by helpful||reply 100||09/26/2013|
Not enough Barba time in this episode but next episode has more of court Time
|by helpful||reply 101||09/29/2013|
god he has a great cock
|by helpful||reply 102||09/30/2013|
Who's the guy that's getting that great cock?
|by helpful||reply 103||09/30/2013|
Pic of great cock?
|by helpful||reply 104||09/30/2013|
no pic. Who is he, Cheyenne Jackson????
|by helpful||reply 105||09/30/2013|
I'm sure he sent Bobby Steggert a few once he figured out how to work his iphone.
|by helpful||reply 106||09/30/2013|
or once he learned how to use his pinga
|by helpful||reply 107||10/03/2013|
Is there no pic of this celebrated schlong anywhere?
|by helpful||reply 108||10/03/2013|
No. He was naked in "The Normal Heart", but in the bootleg you can only see his ass.
|by helpful||reply 109||10/03/2013|
Johanna Gleason saw it every night
|by helpful||reply 110||10/03/2013|
Catching up with the last SVU. Back to ridiculous.
Papi Raul was great. The L&O fans love him.
|by helpful||reply 111||10/08/2013|
Papi at the Hamptons Film Festival, wearing another hideous outfit.
|by helpful||reply 112||10/15/2013|
His BF works at the film festival
But his wife apparently dressed him better
|by helpful||reply 113||10/15/2013|
So he has a new bf? Good.
I read that Nick got married.
|by helpful||reply 114||10/15/2013|
not new, been a couple of years
|by helpful||reply 115||10/16/2013|
Raul's big episode! Tonight!
|by helpful||reply 116||10/23/2013|
and his Birthday tomorrow
|by helpful||reply 117||10/23/2013|
why won't thread part 2 work ? Anyone got a working link ?
|by helpful||reply 118||10/23/2013|
Raul's had that thread sealed. It has his cock pic linked on it.
|by helpful||reply 119||10/23/2013|
(R119) Ohhh, thanks. I thought it was just DL problem. Sorry I missed it. Was there any interesting gossip ? I mean besides what we already know.
|by helpful||reply 120||10/23/2013|
Hahaha r119. Thread 2 works just fine. Try this link:
|by helpful||reply 121||10/23/2013|
(R121) I think I love you...thank you, thank you
|by helpful||reply 122||10/23/2013|
Raul and Danny Pino talking in spanish!!!
|by helpful||reply 123||10/23/2013|
Happy Birthday, Papi!!
|by helpful||reply 124||10/24/2013|
Who is Raul's New Boyfriend?
|by helpful||reply 125||11/02/2013|
|by helpful||reply 126||11/07/2013|
|by helpful||reply 127||11/07/2013|
No more posts about Papi's new bf?
(He looks like Raul, just a little)
|by helpful||reply 128||11/07/2013|
bump for papi
|by helpful||reply 129||12/05/2013|
Throwback Thursday. Raul in 2001 with Joel Grey and Matt McGrath at the I LOVE NY commercial shoot just after 9/11.
|by helpful||reply 130||12/05/2013|
He was still in Tick, tick, boom at the time, right?
|by helpful||reply 131||12/05/2013|
Yes, but he'd already announced he was leaving to go into Assassins, that was ultimately canceled as a result of 9/11.
|by helpful||reply 132||12/15/2013|
|by helpful||reply 133||12/23/2013|
bump for papi
|by helpful||reply 134||01/14/2014|
What's with people saying that Raul is 5'3"? I've read some comments on youtube, Imdb, FB, twitter that said so. I guess they all have to be L&O fans and haven't seen the man in person.
|by helpful||reply 135||01/28/2014|
he is like 5'9", his cock is 5'3"
|by helpful||reply 136||01/28/2014|
When you ask Google "How tall is Raul Esparza?" their answer is 5'3". God knows where they got that from, it isn't anywhere else on the Internet. And they won't change it.
|by helpful||reply 137||01/28/2014|
Yeah, it's weird and kind of funny, though I'm sure Papi Raul would be upset if he finds out.
|by helpful||reply 138||01/28/2014|
So, more info on Raul's new bf?
|by helpful||reply 139||02/14/2014|
not new its' been years
|by helpful||reply 140||02/14/2014|
no one cares about papi anymore
|by helpful||reply 141||03/04/2014|
He was on TV twice last week: SVU and Hannibal.
I think his role on Hannibal will be bigger this season, since Will is on Chilton's hospital.
|by helpful||reply 142||03/04/2014|
Bryan Fuller on Raul
|by helpful||reply 143||03/16/2014|
Raul returns to Miscast!
|by helpful||reply 144||03/17/2014|
|by helpful||reply 145||03/20/2014|
It's funny seeing him with his cane being a little bitch, and glad to know that his role on Hannibal will get bigger.
If the NBC cancels the series (I think that's going to happen), do you think some cable network will pick it up?
|by helpful||reply 146||03/20/2014|
his cock is beautiful
|by helpful||reply 147||03/29/2014|
I have no idea who this guy is.. why is he so popular here on DL? Is he gay?
|by helpful||reply 148||03/29/2014|
a Week between posts here, guess not that popular
|by helpful||reply 149||03/29/2014|
He was great on this week's Hannibal and today is the Miscast gala. Hopefully there will be video or audio for those of us that cannot be there.
|by helpful||reply 150||03/31/2014|
here you go r150
|by helpful||reply 151||04/02/2014|
|by helpful||reply 152||04/03/2014|
I hope they don't kill Dr. Chilton!
|by helpful||reply 153||04/09/2014|
|by helpful||reply 154||04/14/2014|
Just remember what Bryan Fuller said - Serpico got shot in the face and lived. ;-)
|by helpful||reply 155||04/14/2014|
[all posts by childish idiot removed]
|by helpful||reply 156||04/16/2014|
Terrible character, you are right.
And it seems like SVU is also a goner...
|by helpful||reply 157||04/16/2014|
I pray you're right, r157, SVU needs to die a merciful death. Do you have anything concrete or is it just wishful thinking?
|by helpful||reply 158||04/16/2014|
Tonight they showed an old episode (Meloni was on it) and, melodramatic as it was (it was about a toxin given to military men that made them crazy), it made me nostalgic for some of those players--not only Meloni, but Belzer--even awful Fred Thompson had some gusto, spouting his conservative ideology.
|by helpful||reply 159||04/16/2014|
Just talk (for now)
|by helpful||reply 160||04/17/2014|
Things are really quiet here. In the old days we needed a new thread almost every month, and I understand. Papi's not on Broadway, he's being wasted on SVU (it's a chore to watch that thing) and he got shot in the face in Hannibal. At least he must be happy with the money.
But I actually think he's more popular than before, just not with us DL/theatre gays, you just have to look at twitter an tumblr. I thought I had seen every Papi photo there is, but the bitches on tumblr managed to even get a hold of his yearbook pics.
I'm surprised that with all the new interest for Raul, new tublr/twitter/fb fans haven't found their way to these threads. The new threads are no match to the gossip of the old ones.
And I wonder if we'll ever see his flip-flopped feets again....
|by helpful||reply 161||05/22/2014|
bump for all the new fans.
|by helpful||reply 162||06/11/2014|
and all of them have rushed
|by helpful||reply 163||06/15/2014|
|by helpful||reply 164||06/17/2014|
Example: New fans of Raul, only from watching him on Hannibal and SVU
|by helpful||reply 165||06/17/2014|
From that tumblr link:
|by helpful||reply 166||06/19/2014|
HELLO this is the best thing ever hahhahahah
|by helpful||reply 167||06/21/2014|
i don't get why people are "uncomfortable" with people talking about this. i wanna hear more about his tbcjscpctscroc. i can't even type that hahahah
|by helpful||reply 168||06/21/2014|
If I wanted to associate with 12 year old girls, I would Tumblr myself. Don't drag their bullshit over here.
|by helpful||reply 169||06/21/2014|
odj, we've been invaded by the preschoolers! Go play on the freeway until you grow up.
|by helpful||reply 170||06/24/2014|
how is papi feeling about tick tick BOOM
|by helpful||reply 171||06/27/2014|
Well, he went to the invited dress and shmoozed with Lin-Manuel Miranda, so presumably he's feeling OK with the whole thing.
|by helpful||reply 172||06/27/2014|
And he's also friends with Karen "I still can't dance!" Olivo, no?
One day there will be a production of Leap of Faith at Encores!
|by helpful||reply 173||06/27/2014|
With his bf
|by helpful||reply 174||06/29/2014|
with the emphasis on the 'b'
|by helpful||reply 175||07/04/2014|
Nick and Bobby (especially Bobby) were more boyish.
Bill Curran looks a little like Hugh Dancy.
|by helpful||reply 176||07/06/2014|
Bill is 38, r175, that's hardly a "boy".
|by helpful||reply 177||07/07/2014|
There's a poster on the previously.tv forums with the user name "MrsRafaelBarba." It has to be a Datalounger.
|by helpful||reply 178||07/17/2014|
More likely a Tumblr fangurl.
|by helpful||reply 179||07/18/2014|
r175 he's not 38
|by helpful||reply 180||07/19/2014|
If his Hollywood career fails, I hope he doesn't return to Broadway. He's uncomfortably fat-looking on stage and his goat vibrato is a show-closer.
|by helpful||reply 181||07/19/2014|
R181 = Trollina, back from the dead
|by helpful||reply 182||07/19/2014|
R181 is beyond right. He kills every show he's in and will never win a Tony. Too bad Hollywood doesn't want him, he'll inevitably come crawling back here.
|by helpful||reply 183||07/19/2014|
R181 = R183
We know your trick, trollina.
|by helpful||reply 184||07/19/2014|
WHET his wife? Is that poor deluded woman still hanging in there?
|by helpful||reply 185||07/19/2014|
Divorced the wife.
|by helpful||reply 186||07/19/2014|
|by helpful||reply 187||07/20/2014|
Yep. Get over it, r187. They're divorced. Have been for nearly six years. Still best friends.
|by helpful||reply 188||07/20/2014|
Remember when his fuck-piece Lee Pace got him a job on that wretched saccharine cesspit known as Pushing Daisies, where he was supposed to have an arc as Kristin Chenoweth's love interest, but his ego was so bad that she complained to producers, and they unceremoniously dumped him at the unemployment office?
Remember when Leap of Faith crashed and burned and producers blamed La Cerda Cubano for costing everyone their jobs because he was so grotesquely porcine and unattractive that putting his image on marketing instantly caused presales to plummet?
|by helpful||reply 189||07/20/2014|
Poor deranged, R189!
|by helpful||reply 190||07/20/2014|
As r190 said, you are deranged, r189. You have a seriously damaged imagination. Go crawl back into the cesspool in your mother's basement.
|by helpful||reply 191||07/20/2014|
Lol I don't know about the first bit of gossip from R189, but the second piece is definately true..
|by helpful||reply 192||07/20/2014|
I'm very sorry, r192, that you fell for the lies perpetrated by that blovated sack of shit, Michael Riedel. He made up that entire story because he hates Raul (and it's mutual) and he knows Raul is sensitive about his weight. R189 is just the sort of imbecile to believe Riedel's filth.
|by helpful||reply 193||07/20/2014|
Lol, ok. I mean I don't really care either way, but it's clear you do. However he does look pretty chubby in all his pictures..
|by helpful||reply 194||07/20/2014|
That's a pic from 2006.
He's heavier today, but wasn't during LOF. R193 is right about everything. All of that was talked about here and on the theatre gossip thread at the time.
But whatever. It's obvious that you're just trolling, trollina.
|by helpful||reply 195||07/20/2014|
If any of you so-called "fans" really cared about him, you'd tell your Puffy-Faced Cuban Pig God to embrace his expansionist waistline and stop pursuing leading roles. What a tragedy that his ego will not allow him to do character roles; his hooked nose and throaty, belch-singing is perfect for following in Nathan Lane's footsteps. Maybe by playing second banana, he'll finally win that Tony? ;)
|by helpful||reply 196||07/20/2014|
Now you're just babbling like the impotent fool you are, r196/189/181. Go away.
|by helpful||reply 197||07/22/2014|
Raul was the surprise guest for the Hannibal panel at Comic-Con. Big cheer from the audience when he came out.
Bryan Fuller said that he was going to be a big part of season 3, but he's not leaving SVU.
|by helpful||reply 198||07/27/2014|
r177 he's not 38
|by helpful||reply 199||07/30/2014|
Raul and the Ice bucket challenge:
|by helpful||reply 200||08/24/2014|
Papi looks FINE in that clip. My only regret is they cut away too fast so you can't see his nipples stiffen.
|by helpful||reply 201||08/25/2014|
|by helpful||reply 202||08/25/2014|
Does anyone have a link to the very first thread? I can't find it.
|by helpful||reply 203||08/27/2014|
This is actually thread 8 or 9. The very first official Raul thread goes all the way back to the time he was doing Anyone Can Whistle.
Here's the link to the first of the new series of threads:
|by helpful||reply 204||08/27/2014|
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|by helpful||reply 206||08/27/2014|
Thanks 204 and onwards. Jeez, there's a lot of bisexual hate in those threads.
|by helpful||reply 207||08/27/2014|
Not much at all compared to the desperate fangirl delusions.
|by helpful||reply 208||08/28/2014|
The fangirls are desperate for everyone to be bi - Raul as well as every character he's ever played. The depth of their delusions is awesome.
|by helpful||reply 209||08/28/2014|
Yeah, I noticed that while checking the tumblr links.
Here on DL he's always been gay. The "Raul and his bc" was a joke from the NYT profile.
|by helpful||reply 210||08/28/2014|
Exactly, R210. Here on DL, as well as in real life, Raul has always been gay. I don't think the delusional fangirls could handle that, or the truth about his lifestyle.
|by helpful||reply 211||08/28/2014|
I want to see Raul's naked pics!!!
|by helpful||reply 212||09/01/2014|
So it's really true - gay guys love to fuck women.
|by helpful||reply 213||09/01/2014|
Looking hot in Hawaii
|by helpful||reply 214||09/02/2014|
Re. Reply 212 I also want to see his naked pics. It's too bad for us that nobody got a pic of him in "The Normal Heart." Probably most of us would cream just looking at him full frontal. (LOL)
|by helpful||reply 215||09/03/2014|
no one cares
|by helpful||reply 216||10/05/2014|
He'll be 44 this friday.
|by helpful||reply 217||10/21/2014|
He's very handsome. Anyone ever had him?
|by helpful||reply 218||10/24/2014|
Finally, no primetime.
Happy Birthday to Papi Raul. Hope he manages to make a Broadway comeback soon.
And I watched SVU last week and he was really good, and also looking very hot.
|by helpful||reply 219||10/25/2014|
|by helpful||reply 220||10/26/2014|
Oh honey, it'd be easier to list the few who haven't had him.
|by helpful||reply 221||10/27/2014|
I guess all the Raul love moved to twitter/tumblr.
We miss seeing him coming out the stage door in his jeans and flip-flops.
Do a play, Papi Raul!
|by helpful||reply 222||11/11/2014|
You bitches are slippin'
Here's a video of Raul with his bf:
|by helpful||reply 223||11/19/2014|
He looks completely nondescript bordering on ugly on TV. HIs acting is blandly inoffensive at best. He'd best take it back to Broadway, although he's well past his sell by date for "romantic" leads at this point.
|by helpful||reply 224||11/19/2014|
Watched this the other day...
|by helpful||reply 225||12/19/2014|
get a life r225
|by helpful||reply 226||12/29/2014|
That's rich, coming from a troll on DL....
Vete al carajo, R226
|by helpful||reply 227||01/03/2015|
that's rich from someone who actually says 'that's rich'
|by helpful||reply 228||01/11/2015|
Really, r228? It took you an entire week to come up with that lame excuse for a snarky reply? Pathetic.
|by helpful||reply 229||01/12/2015|
Maybe r228 doesn't live here like you do!
|by helpful||reply 230||01/13/2015|
What an odd thing to try and accuse someone of. I guess it fits with the troll.
|by helpful||reply 231||01/13/2015|
Who actually IS rich and does not live here? Raúl. ;)
|by helpful||reply 232||01/21/2015|
do we think Papi is rico now from SVU and Hannibal?
|by helpful||reply 233||01/25/2015|
I won't say rico, but there's no doubt that he has more money now than what he had during all his Broadway years combined.
|by helpful||reply 234||01/25/2015|
This is a reply to 220. Someone else posted, "Had him?" 220 relied, "Had him." OK, I have to ask. Without getting clinical, how was it? Hot, ok, or, "He just lay there and made me do all the work"? (I'd have posted this reply sooner, but I lost the link and it took me a while to find it again.)
|by helpful||reply 235||04/06/2015|
There were several stories in the old Raul threads, all lost now, but most were probably fake.
This is actually something like thread 10 or 11 of the Raul (and his tbcjscpctscroc) threads. They started around the time of the Encores production of "Anyone Can Whitle".
|by helpful||reply 236||04/07/2015|
What's Raul up to these days?
|by helpful||reply 237||04/18/2015|
R237 About 5'5 unless he's wearing his elevators, then 5'9. And getting fat again.
|by helpful||reply 238||04/18/2015|
I think he doesn't care anymore and now has fully embraced his belly. His boyfriend must like it.
He should do a play, look for a limited engagement or something. It's been too long.
|by helpful||reply 239||04/19/2015|
Yes, he needs to come back and do a play. R239 We need him back on Broadway sooner rather than later. Maybe once that SVU drivel dries up.
|by helpful||reply 240||04/19/2015|
papi looks snarky during most of this until the end
|by helpful||reply 241||04/20/2015|
R241 yeah, total snark show. What's with all the swaying?
|by helpful||reply 242||04/20/2015|
Why is he called papi?
|by helpful||reply 243||04/20/2015|
Pretty queenish at the end. Poor papi, he's getting old. I'd still do him though.
|by helpful||reply 244||04/21/2015|
Snark? What are you talking about?
|by helpful||reply 245||04/21/2015|
Maybe he could standby for Donna McKechnie when she is unavailable to standby for Chita...Or he and Chita could do a revival of "The Rink."
Or he could play all the daughters in "The House of Bernarda Alba" (which Chita did in Los Angeles some years ago).
|by helpful||reply 246||04/21/2015|
I got the snarky vibe a bit too. Maybe because he was snickering while Finneran was announcing some of the nominees.
|by helpful||reply 247||04/21/2015|
He seems to be over it or its beneath him or something
|by helpful||reply 248||04/21/2015|
Google lists his height as 5'3". Lord, what a giant hunk of a man.
|by helpful||reply 249||04/21/2015|
R249 His twitter says he's 5'10
|by helpful||reply 250||04/21/2015|
Well, I said "Okay, Google" to my phone, and then I asked, "How tall is Raul Esparza?" And the White Google Lady said "Raul Esparza is 5 feet, 3 inches tall".
|by helpful||reply 251||04/21/2015|
R249, maybe the extra 7 inches are coming from his tbcjscpctscroc.
|by helpful||reply 252||04/21/2015|
R252 that would be 8 inches
|by helpful||reply 253||04/21/2015|
|by helpful||reply 254||04/21/2015|
r250 no way is here 5-10. Under 5-9. Where does Twitter give height?
|by helpful||reply 255||04/22/2015|
IMDb puts him at 5'8-1/2". He's actually closer to 5'7", but is definitely not 5'3".
Can't seem to get Google to fix their incorrect information.
|by helpful||reply 256||04/22/2015|
Check out @RaulEEsparza's Tweet: https://twitter.com/RaulEEsparza/status/454041015738179584?s=09 @JessChaplin_ Raul Esparza is 5'10. Though Wikipedia's stats turned him into a tall 5'4 hobbit. Don't know if I copied this right or not. Anyway some rabid fangurls have it copied all over tumblr.
|by helpful||reply 257||04/22/2015|
Ha. No way is he 5'10. Not saying he's 5'3, but definitely not 5'10. I wonder how much he's paying his twitter/facebook p.r. people to get them to claim that one. He wears lifts a lot. It's obvious.
|by helpful||reply 258||04/23/2015|
I know one thing for sure, he's less than 5'3 on his knees.
|by helpful||reply 259||04/24/2015|
He's baaack. With Chita. Yay! Any DL's going to check him out?
|by helpful||reply 260||04/25/2015|
It's a one night benefit, where he'll sing one song. That's hardly " back".
|by helpful||reply 261||04/25/2015|
R261 Sounds like R260 got a little excited!
|by helpful||reply 262||04/25/2015|
Is he still with his (too hot for him) boyfriend?
|by helpful||reply 263||04/25/2015|
R263 Which one?
|by helpful||reply 264||04/25/2015|
Post a pic of the hot bf, please.
|by helpful||reply 265||04/25/2015|
Yes. Post a pic. Also, who could be too hot for Papi and his tbcjscpctscroc?
|by helpful||reply 266||04/25/2015|
|by helpful||reply 267||04/25/2015|
Boyfriend is Bill Curran.
Has anyone noticed that papi's eyes seem to be getting a bit wonky/unfocused over the years?
|by helpful||reply 268||04/26/2015|
|by helpful||reply 269||04/26/2015|
R174 doesn't work
God, Russell Crowe looks fat and terrible in r269 link. Raul looks good
|by helpful||reply 270||04/26/2015|
Can anyone explain that dress that AnnE is sporting at the Grounded opening at r269? The bodice looks like a silken bag of potatoes.
|by helpful||reply 271||04/26/2015|
Weird, R270. It works for me.
Here's another pic:
|by helpful||reply 272||04/26/2015|
you mean like this r268
|by helpful||reply 273||04/26/2015|
another try of the pic above
|by helpful||reply 274||04/26/2015|
Yeah, it's true. He's always been like that, but I guess now it's more noticeable.
|by helpful||reply 275||04/26/2015|
R271, the bodice looks like it has a sort of overdress that's like a backwards cropped jacket, open in the back, with a fitted bodice underneath. Very fashionable right now. It's actually pretty, just the angle of the photo is unfortunate.
|by helpful||reply 276||04/26/2015|
Papi looks good still, looking a bit tired, but not bad.
|by helpful||reply 277||04/26/2015|
Thanks r272, I can see that one.
The other guy's cute, but dosent seem too hot for Raul. Seems a bit younger than him, though, ha.
|by helpful||reply 278||04/26/2015|
He also looks a little bit like Nick Mayo.
|by helpful||reply 279||04/26/2015|
Raùl is looking good in that pic a bit of a belly though.
|by helpful||reply 280||04/26/2015|
Raul doing some good work. Important video, I'm glad he's taking part in this.
|by helpful||reply 281||04/26/2015|
[R273] yeah, but more particularly in the video i just linked to. (i hope i did the "R#" thing right, i'm new here)
|by helpful||reply 282||04/26/2015|
Good for Raùl! R281 Glad he did the video, it's an important message.
Happy for him that life seems to be treating him well since we last saw him on Broadway. Does anyone think he'll be back to do a play or musical soon?
|by helpful||reply 283||04/26/2015|
Why does this guy even get a thread? He's not even good looking. What's the deal? He's horrible on SVU, and he only got that role because he's MH's friend.
|by helpful||reply 284||04/26/2015|
Why do you praise him in one post and bash him in another one, R283/284?
|by helpful||reply 285||04/26/2015|
He is good looking
He was great in Hannibal. I was not expecting to like his character as much as I did.
|by helpful||reply 286||04/26/2015|
Somebody's off their schizophrenia meds, I think?
|by helpful||reply 287||04/26/2015|
Raul has, whether anyone notes/bitches about his height, weight, whatever--charisma. He's great on SVU, and he's why we tune in every week.
|by helpful||reply 288||04/26/2015|
trolldar on r283 and r284 is so weird
|by helpful||reply 289||04/27/2015|
He's good friends with DL fave Lucie Arnaz, even appeared with her in a Cuban musical review.
|by helpful||reply 290||04/27/2015|
Any update on that ill Broadway actor Raul was helping raise money for?
|by helpful||reply 291||04/27/2015|
I think I read on FB something about the actor getting better.
|by helpful||reply 292||04/27/2015|
Papi's gonna be in a movie that will actually be good!!!
|by helpful||reply 293||04/30/2015|
Yay for Papi! R293 Sounds like a good movie!
|by helpful||reply 294||04/30/2015|
MORE courtroom drama?
I love him, but SVU is making him lazy.
|by helpful||reply 295||05/01/2015|
Jesus. R294 R295 you sound exactly like R283 R284. Same writing pattern. What's your problem?
|by helpful||reply 296||05/01/2015|
Okay when people say the tbcjscpctscroc is big, like how big are we talking?
|by helpful||reply 297||05/07/2015|
Ugh, Dan Fogler.
|by helpful||reply 298||05/08/2015|
From the theatre thread:
I've give you one and only big catch - DL favorite Papi - Raul Esparza. About 7 or 8 years ago met him at a hotel bar and had no idea who he was. What a nice guy I think he liked the fact I didn't know his "work" Sat there and drank and talked for a couple of hours. It was just after his divorce and he was very genuine about his "conflict" Talked about us both thinking we were bi. Long story longer ended up going to my room that night. He was a caring, passionate, thorough lover. Furry in all the right spots, nice hard and very sensitive nipples. Cock isn't huge, but nice and thick. Total versatile. Stayed the whole night and left in the AM. Saw him one other time before I left NY, and it was just the same. Bartender had to tell me who he was. Best one (OK two) nighter EVAH!!!!!!!!!
|by helpful||reply 299||05/14/2015|
times have changed if no one comments on the above here or on the other thread
|by helpful||reply 300||05/17/2015|
R284 Mariska and Raúl weren't friends until he started SVU. He got the role because the showrunner wrote the book to Leap of Faith.
He's horrible on SVU because SVU is horrible. He's great on Hannibal.
|by helpful||reply 301||05/17/2015|
I stopped watching SVU ages ago, but you you queens are overreacting. He was never horrible.
And I'd rather talk about Raul than boring MvE.
|by helpful||reply 302||05/17/2015|
This is a reply to 299. I asked the question and got a reply. Now I'm just sorry it couldn't have been me. Oh, well. I can dream, as a lot of us do. (LOL)
|by helpful||reply 303||05/18/2015|
There's one poster that would love that sensitive nipples fact.
|by helpful||reply 304||05/20/2015|
PAPI IN A NEW PLAY
|by helpful||reply 305||05/27/2015|
|by helpful||reply 306||05/27/2015|
Cymbeline is over 400 years old. Hardly "new". And it's not a large part.
|by helpful||reply 307||05/27/2015|
"New" as in a new production. And so what if it's a small role? I'm hype.
|by helpful||reply 308||05/28/2015|
according to r299 he doesn't have a large part in real life too
|by helpful||reply 309||05/29/2015|
Shame about that R309 and R299. I wanted to believe that he was well hung.
|by helpful||reply 310||06/02/2015|
Hannibal has been cancelled.
Do you think another network will pick it up? Netflix?
|by helpful||reply 311||06/24/2015|
Amazon has turned it down. I think there is a slim chance that Netflix will pick it up.
Where did the idea that Papi likes feet come from?
|by helpful||reply 312||06/24/2015|
It isn't so much that Papi likes feet R312. It's more that we like his feets when he puts them on display, which used to be often. The Papi love on DL is not as strong as it once was, so you hardly hear of them anymore.
|by helpful||reply 313||06/24/2015|
There was also that time when people saw Fred Rose giving Papi a foot massage
|by helpful||reply 314||06/25/2015|
Maybe now that Hannibal is cancelled papi will have the time to run around in his flip flops again!
|by helpful||reply 315||06/25/2015|
he's rehearsing for Shakespeare central park - probably in flip flops all the time
|by helpful||reply 316||06/26/2015|
Good to see him on Hannibal last night. Handsome guy.
What Shakespeare production is he doing?
|by helpful||reply 317||06/26/2015|
Any sightings of those flip flops?
|by helpful||reply 318||06/26/2015|
Cymbeline, r317. He's playing Iachimo.
|by helpful||reply 319||06/26/2015|
Sorry, forgot to add Cymbeline at Shakespeare in the Park.
|by helpful||reply 320||06/26/2015|
|by helpful||reply 321||07/20/2015|
cymbeline starts tonite is papi in flip-flops
|by helpful||reply 322||07/23/2015|
Papi rehearsing for Cymbeline. No flip flop photos so far :(
|by helpful||reply 323||08/01/2015|
You can catch him wearing flip-flops after the show, when he's leaving.
|by helpful||reply 324||08/07/2015|
his bush smells bad
|by helpful||reply 325||08/20/2015|
How do you know R325?
|by helpful||reply 326||08/21/2015|
He doesn't, R326
Anyone still watching Hannibal? Last episode had Raul and Richard Armitage naked in the same room. Papi's bare feet finally made their TV debut. It didn't end well for Chilton, but everything leading up to the end was great. Great performances from Papi and Armitage.
|by helpful||reply 327||08/24/2015|
Finally.... full frontal naked Raul and his tbcjsc.....
|by helpful||reply 328||08/24/2015|
Raul looks pretty buff here. Seems like he lost a little weight.
|by helpful||reply 329||08/24/2015|
Fuck, he looks HOT!
|by helpful||reply 330||08/25/2015|
|by helpful||reply 331||08/25/2015|
He must be working out. He looks great!
|by helpful||reply 332||08/25/2015|
Yeah, he's looking hot for sure.
|by helpful||reply 333||08/25/2015|
Did anyone get chance to see the show?
|by helpful||reply 334||08/25/2015|
A friend did and said Raul was in great form.
Someone from tumblr gave Raul a pair of flip-flops as a gift after the show. No joke.
|by helpful||reply 335||08/30/2015|
Tumblr: average level of emotional maturity = age 12.
|by helpful||reply 336||08/30/2015|
I can just imagine Raul's face!
|by helpful||reply 337||08/30/2015|
Oh god. That's kind of creepy R335. What would possess someone to think that that would be a good idea at all. How embarrassing.
|by helpful||reply 338||08/30/2015|
Only grown-ups think like that, r338. Self-centered tweens think it's the greatest idea since sliced bread.
|by helpful||reply 339||08/30/2015|
Hot r323. I love the little belly
What's with the flipflops? Is it a joke? I just know this guy from Hannibal so I'm not up to date with his fans and their ways.
|by helpful||reply 340||08/30/2015|
DL was/is full of feets lovers, R340 (yeah, it's "feets"), something that helped Papi Raul reach DL icon status, since he has nice, big feets and was always coming out of the stage doors or going around town wearing his flip-flops for all gays to admire.
There's also the time when Fred Rose, one of his boyfriends and "Company" co-star, was seen massaging Papi's feet in a booth at the Westway diner...
Raul was aware of DL's admiration for several of his body parts, so he gave the theatre queens/Raul lovers a treat when, in 2010 (I think?), he appeared on a video for Broadway.com barefoot for 12 minutes, answering question on a couch....There was no reason for him to be barefoot....Raul's DL fans rejoiced!
He displayed his feets again, this time on stage in "Arcadia"...After that you could just catch Papi's flip-flopped feets in rare occasions, now being all suited-up for SVU....until last week when he showed his feets once again in Hannibal. He was horribly burnt a couple of minutes after that glorious moment, so it wasn't as exciting...
Tumblerinas probably read about Raul's flip-flopped feets here, the same way they learned about the tbcjscpctscroc, and one of them took it too far. Shakespeare in the park is probably the first chance for most of these women to see the man live.
Raul probably acted all amused and laughed it off, but part of him was probably creeped out as well.
|by helpful||reply 341||08/30/2015|
Thank you for the explanation, r341. I love a nice pair of feet, too, even though during that Hannibal scene I was more focused on his nice hairy chest than his feet.
Kind of weird that the tumblr girls took the flip flop thing from here and ran with it, no?
I'd like to see this guy in a live production now that I know who he is. has he got anything coming up in NyC?
|by helpful||reply 342||08/30/2015|
Nothing yet. He's probably filming SVU.
|by helpful||reply 343||08/30/2015|
What an odd thing to do; giving him flip flops. It's very strange. Maybe I'm wrong, but I think it suggests some sort mental disturbance.
Why would anyone think that giving an actor a pair of flip flops is normal? Do they think that he'd actually appreciate or wear them? Gad, there are some strange birds out there. Maybe I'm just cynical, but wouldn't most people find this sort of gesture bizarre and borderline creepy? Especially because of the history of the flip flops here on DL? I mean, the tumblr chic obviously researched that tid bit of information here on the DL.
Oh well, to each his own I suppose. Perhaps I'm off base, and maybe Raul liked them.
|by helpful||reply 344||08/30/2015|
R335, out of sheer boredom and sheer curiosity, I searched tumblr, and lo and behold - I found the flip flops in question. Here they are! Looks like someone customized them for our dear Papi. I can't quite decide if this is hilarious or just plain weird (I'm leaning towards the latter).
|by helpful||reply 345||08/30/2015|
It's strange. I'm sure that r341 is correct and that Raul laughed it off.
|by helpful||reply 346||08/31/2015|
You think he's going to wear them?
|by helpful||reply 347||08/31/2015|
*Insert bitchy eye roll here* Poor Papi. He probably was nice about it, but was thinking WTF? Since he went to TV, he has managed to collect more than his fair share of nut-job fans. Here on the DL, we all had fun, but I don't think that any of us ever crossed the line into the bizarre/creepiness that his current fandom embraces. Those tumblr women are an obsessed and weird group of people.
I missed him in Cymbeline, but am looking forward to the day he returns to Broadway (if that ever happens). I liked him in Hannibal (I don't watch SVU much, but he's good in that too) but we need him back on the stage!
|by helpful||reply 348||08/31/2015|
Aaaand....r348 nails it. Thank you. (Except calling them "women" is giving them way too much status.)
|by helpful||reply 349||09/01/2015|
Hey, enough bashing the tumblr chics. There is absolutely nothing bizarre or abnormal about giving Raul a pair of flip-flops, arguing that he is not gay, having a pillow case made with his face on it, sending him stuffed penguins, speculating on his possible whereabouts (OMG!! SVU is filming at a park in the Bronx, let's go!!), writing fanfic wherein he is the best lover they have ever had (you know with his tbcjscpctscroc and all), blog about he can't be gay, (he is bi after all, but when he meets and falls in love with one of them, he will "turn" straight), tweeting him, handing him stuffed penguins (and then asking him to tweet a pic. of the penguin in his SVU dressing room, or on his bed), drawing naked "fan art" of him, sharing fantasies about his tummy, tracking down childhood photos of him (and then posting those to tumblr), blogging and re-blogging every single picture of him ever released, or anything else that they do. They are NORMAL people who just happen to love Raul.
It is us, here on the DL, who are the evil monsters! We are the nutters! We are the ones who disrespected poor Raul with talk of Fred Rose rubbing his feet, or Raul running around backstage in his underwear! We are his awful, awful, disrespectful, most terrible fans. We should all hang our heads in shame and apologize immediately. We do not know the real Raul like they do. We do not know how sensitive he is, and how hurt he must have been by the comments here on the DL. We should all be ashamed of ourselves. You see, it is only ok for tumblr chics to think he's hot. When a gay guy on the DL says the same thing; that is practically rape.
|by helpful||reply 350||09/01/2015|
I love you, r350.
Also, don't you know we're horrible, nasty, arrogant people because we have the temerity to be fans of Raul from BEFORE he was on TV?? We are the lowest of low, his *gasp* BROADWAY fans. We are supposed to slink away in shame, and leave him and his "fandom" to his TRUE fans.
|by helpful||reply 351||09/02/2015|
Yes, R351, admitting that you are part of the problem is the first step. Now, go and get a tumblr blog and load it up with pictures and your Raul fantasies, and start to stalk him. Then you'll be cool. Either that, or take your own advice and slink away in SHAME, and leave Raul and his true fans alone.
|by helpful||reply 352||09/02/2015|
Poor r352, you neither understand or do sarcasm well.
|by helpful||reply 353||09/02/2015|
|by helpful||reply 354||09/02/2015|
I think that the penguins come from an old interview where Raul said that if he were an animal, he'd be a penguin (or something to that effect). I laughed out loud at R350, R351 and R352! I'm sure that 352 was kidding around.
|by helpful||reply 355||09/02/2015|
I love R350/351/352!
|by helpful||reply 356||09/02/2015|
Papi loves amilton and can't stop raving about it!
Maybe LMM can write something for him in the near future.
|by helpful||reply 357||09/27/2015|
Raul was a groomsman in bf Bill Curran's brother's wedding this weekend, so they must be somewhat serious/going strong. Cute couple, Curran is 30 but looks younger and has himself a hot Cuban daddy.
|by helpful||reply 358||09/27/2015|
Curran is a lucky guy!
|by helpful||reply 359||09/27/2015|
Yeah, not sure how he got Papi but hats off to him. Good looking guy and I assume lets Papi call the shots. They've been together for several years at this point I think, Papi settling down in his old age.
|by helpful||reply 360||09/27/2015|
Curran is indeed lucky! Does anyone really know if Raul has come out as gay, or is he still labeling himself as bisexual?
|by helpful||reply 361||09/27/2015|
I doubt he talks about it anymore since he's been with Curran for 3-4 years.
|by helpful||reply 362||09/27/2015|
So is Papi Raul a top?
|by helpful||reply 363||09/28/2015|
I've heard that Raul is a bossy bottom, R363. For some reason, I can picture that.
|by helpful||reply 364||09/28/2015|
He definitely is a bottom. Trust me.
|by helpful||reply 365||09/28/2015|
He must be versatile. Nick Mayo was no top.
|by helpful||reply 366||09/28/2015|
I'd love to find out, R366. I can't imagine myself bottoming for him though, but that's just me.
|by helpful||reply 367||09/28/2015|
Have a hard time picturing his current younger bf topping him, just based on pics... would think he has to be versatile. Would also love to find out for sure...
|by helpful||reply 368||09/28/2015|
Poters on old Broadway sext threads said Raul was versatile.
|by helpful||reply 369||09/28/2015|
he's mostly a bott
|by helpful||reply 370||10/11/2015|
I read something about Raul now getting an "and" credit on SVU. Is that true? Isn't that kind of a big thing?
I know that he's very popular with the fans of the show (same with Hannibal), and that SVU is not what it used to be, but that's still cool if it's true!
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|by helpful||reply 372||10/12/2015|
Any info on his hole? I'm going to say "hairy " .
|by helpful||reply 373||10/12/2015|
Hole is tight and clean.
|by helpful||reply 374||10/12/2015|
There are far better photos of papi in flip flops!
|by helpful||reply 375||10/12/2015|
Those flip flops look too big.
R375, any photo of papi in flip flops is a good photo!
|by helpful||reply 376||10/12/2015|
I guess I can see his bf Bill as a top, maybe. Cute guy, sexy couple.
And yes Raul does have the "and" credit on SVU now.
|by helpful||reply 377||10/14/2015|
Raul topping a table
|by helpful||reply 378||10/16/2015|
Papi looks like he could throw mean and dirty fuck.
|by helpful||reply 379||10/16/2015|
Where's the table humping clip from?
|by helpful||reply 380||10/16/2015|
Papi got to pretend he was in "Hamilton" last week on SVU.
|by helpful||reply 381||10/16/2015|
Speed The Plow, r380
|by helpful||reply 382||10/17/2015|
He was absolutely incredible in Speed The Plow. He's being wasted on TV (Hannibal aside)
|by helpful||reply 383||10/19/2015|
Oh my god....look what those tumblr freaks are up to.
|by helpful||reply 384||10/20/2015|
And another. Jeez, nothing on the DL is as remotely creepy as this.
|by helpful||reply 385||10/20/2015|
|by helpful||reply 386||10/20/2015|
No kidding, R386! Wow is what I thought too.
|by helpful||reply 387||10/20/2015|
Wow, never thought I'd be jealous of a table...
|by helpful||reply 388||10/22/2015|
Those are bed spreads and a pillow, R388!
|by helpful||reply 389||10/22/2015|
This week's SVU was unfortunately 100% Papi-free.
|by helpful||reply 390||10/22/2015|
Those pics are truly staggering--didn't someone upthread or a prior one identify these silkscreeners as middle-aged fraus? What a way to end up
|by helpful||reply 391||10/22/2015|
Yeah I think so R391. I wonder if this is the same broad that sends him flip flops? This is some scary stuff... I wonder what Raul would think?For the life of me, I can't think of any of his dl/broadway fans going to these extremes.
|by helpful||reply 392||10/22/2015|
No blanket compares to the real thing, bitches!
|by helpful||reply 393||10/22/2015|
Scary thing, I don't think they're the same people, there are a lot of them like that. And they're not middle-aged fraus. They're high-school and college aged fraus. Fraus-in-training, I guess? They always seem to be whining how can they have a fixation on someone old enough to be their father?
|by helpful||reply 394||10/22/2015|
Yikes, r394. Are these people unstable? Doesn't really matter how old or young they are, a creep is a creep!
|by helpful||reply 395||10/22/2015|
Yes, some clearly are. The worst ones seem to be some combination of drama queen and attention whore. Reading Tumblr tends to leave one wanting a shower rather badly.
|by helpful||reply 396||10/23/2015|
Happy Birthday papi!
|by helpful||reply 397||10/23/2015|
Damn Papi's getting old, 45! Hope his bf goes easy on the birthday celebrations, wouldn't want the old man to strain himself!
|by helpful||reply 398||10/23/2015|
Who wants to celebrate being THAT old?
|by helpful||reply 399||10/23/2015|
Happy birthday Papi Raúl. Hope you find your way back to broadway soon and that you manage dodge your crazy tumblr fans along the way.
|by helpful||reply 400||10/24/2015|
I want to feed papi and rub his belly. I want to watch him squeeze a turd from his pink, cuban hole.
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|by helpful||reply 402||11/01/2015|
R401, I like the first part, but then, gross.
|by helpful||reply 403||11/01/2015|
I'd love to feed and rub his belly too, but I'll pass on the scat. Maybe a few, big farts instead. I wonder if they carry the same vibrato as his voice. Oo, and his feet. God, I'd love to worship his feet... and rim him.
|by helpful||reply 404||11/01/2015|
Where is the Raúl feets troll? Where is the whore from 77th? Where is the Raúl is a bottom troll? Oh, and the Raúl is with his wife troll?
|by helpful||reply 405||11/01/2015|
Oh, forgot to add, I'd feed and rub his belly and then sink deep into him...
|by helpful||reply 406||11/01/2015|
I'm one of the "Raul's feets" trolls. Times have changed, Papi is not rushing out of stagedoors or walking around B'way showing his beautiful flop-flopped feets anymore. I hope Bill Curran is taking care of Papi's feets. Worship them, Bill!
BTW, I've nothing to do with the tumblr people giving Raul flip-flops, just wanted to clear that out!
|by helpful||reply 407||11/02/2015|
Some recent Papi pics. Looks like he's lost weight. Either some of the people in the pics are giants, or Papi really is quite tiny.
|by helpful||reply 408||11/07/2015|
He's got skinny little legs.
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|by helpful||reply 410||11/09/2015|
He is adorable R410. And, yes, R408 he's small, about 5'7 or 5'8 (despite his claim of being 5'9 - 5'10). The only way that man is 5'9 is if he's wearing 1 inch lifts.
I know he's getting older, (but aren't we all?) and I still find him incredibly attractive. I'd love to top him, though sadly, I will never have the chance. His b/f is one lucky guy, that's for sure!
I do miss the old days of when Papi could be spotted wandering around town showing off his feets.
Papi, if you are reading this, come back to Broadway where you belong! Ditch SVU and those nutty tumblr fans. We miss you!
|by helpful||reply 411||11/09/2015|
R407, do you remember the whore from 77th street? (or was it 70th street) I'm guessing a lot of the original Raul fans never made the transition from the old DL to the new format. Too bad, those posters were fun, as opposed to creepy like some of his newer fans are (eg. the tumblr fan mentioned up thread who gave him flip flops).
|by helpful||reply 412||11/09/2015|
I think most of the fans have moved on.
|by helpful||reply 413||11/09/2015|
and apparently DL too
|by helpful||reply 414||11/13/2015|
From another thread about celeb hookups:
"Does former DL fave Papi Raul count as a minor celeb? Here's the story. About seven or eight years ago, two night hook up after his divorce. Nice, nice cock. Thick, about 8 inches, cut. Bottom. Seemed like nice guy. Very, very sensitive and ticklish in certain spots. Loved having his nipples and earlobes licked and bit. Squirmed and moved around a lot while he took it. Restless sleeper."
For those of us who miss the old Papi Raul gossip
|by helpful||reply 415||11/19/2015|
Sounds a awful lot like r299's post.
|by helpful||reply 416||11/19/2015|
I think that
|by helpful||reply 417||11/20/2015|
oops, hit post by accident. Anyway, I think that that person quoted in R415 's post has told that story a few times on DL. Lucky guy!
|by helpful||reply 418||11/20/2015|
I love that he's a bottom and likes nipple play.
Sounds like a great fuck! Nothing hotter than a bottom squirming with delight while taking a cock
|by helpful||reply 419||11/20/2015|
Tumblr chicks calling DL Papi fans creepy because we are vocal about fucking Papi Raul:
"I JUST CHECKED OUT THE DATALOUNGE OR WHATEVER, AND OH MY GOD THEY'RE CREEPY! ITS POST AFTER POST OF REALLY GROSS STUFF THEY WANT TO DO TO HIM, AND THEN THEY CALL US FREAKS BECAUSE WE SEND HIM GIFTS?? LIKE I DONT MEAN TO KINK SHAME ANYONE BUT SOME OF THAT STUFF WAS JUST...WOW. NOTHING LIKE WE HAVE HERE. AT LEAST WE'RE CIVIL ABOUT OUT FANTASIES!"
Can you believe that shit?
|by helpful||reply 420||11/22/2015|
-HAVE YOU EVER CHECKED OUT THE THREADS ABOUT RAUL ON DATALOUNGE? SOME OF THEM ARE INTERESTING, SOME OF THEM ARE FUNNY, AND I'M SURE THAT SOME OF THEM ARE JUST GOSSIP. THERE ARE THREADS THERE ABOUT RAUL THAT GO ALL THE WAY BACK TO THE EARLY 2000'S!
-We are very familiar with that site.
-While a lot of the posts are general harmless stuff, we feel that some of the contributors have taken it too far, actually stalking him and posting things about his activities in his personal life. Even though we get a bit raunchy on this blog, we don’t condone getting info on him that isn’t available publicly. (Also they steal our gifs, RUDE!)
-i think ive seen this site, it’s the one where they post mean shit about our bb? i can’t believe people can be so nasty. Maybe I’m thinking of another site but there was a forum with lots of rude condescending shit, which made me really mad and sad. like don’t people have better things to do then put down a guy who is kind and good hearted? ugh end rant.
-They were talking crap about his ex wife and people he is or was supposedly dating, being generally shitty about his life, etc. They also think we are “rabid 16 year old fangirls” and not real fans because we don’t stalk him or something. Which is hilarious because it’s likely I’m at least their age if not older, I’m just not a jerk.
|by helpful||reply 421||11/22/2015|
Agreed, r420. This Tumblr post kinda made my jaw drop:
I DON’T WANNA BE A CREEPER
I really wanna know what’s gone on with Raul’s dating life… I know I know it’s none of my business but I thought it better to ask on here than go read rumours and shit on datalounge. I get that he’s divorced from Michele and that he dated Nick Mayo at some point but the rest is so confusing. Please reply if you know anything that isn’t unsubstantiated rumours?
-------- And they have the nerve to call US creepy?
Wow -- delusional much?
|by helpful||reply 422||11/22/2015|
I think it's hilarious! You know they got all that info from DL! How else would they know he dated/lived with Nick!?
They're such entitled, delicate flowers. Raul has been a topic of discussion on DL for 13/14 years, with the man knowing about it since the beginning. He's well aware of the fact that people used to talk shit and be really nasty about him here, and that later the tide mostly changed and posers started to worship him!
Fuck, he even went barefoot on a fucking video interview as a nod to the DL fans!
Tumblerinas will never understand.
|by helpful||reply 423||11/22/2015|
R422, Raul has been involved with the same man, Bill Curran, for the last 3-4 years.
|by helpful||reply 424||11/22/2015|
I scoped out Papi on tumblr and found more posts like R420 's,
I have been reading through the datalounge stuff and some of it really just stinks of sexism. Every reference to tumblr refers to us as little girls, chicks, crazy women and whatever other derogatory way they can talk about women. They don't seem to like the fact that women have a space to discuss 'their' Raúl. It screams entitlement to me. And still completely ignoring the fact that some people here may be male (I have no idea). Just wanted to add my opinion.
That’s the usual way with fans of anything. If it’s (particularly cis) men doing it, anything goes. It’s perfectly ok for them to talk poorly of his relationships, the fact that he has self-identified as bisexual, etc., and even go so far as to try and follow him around in public.
But the tumblr fandom is perceived as mostly women (although as you rightly point out there are some men here), thus what we do is “hysterical” and immature. There’s a vast age range on tumblr, particularly among Raúl’s fans. This is a good object lesson in gendered institutionalized double standards.
DDOH mod will quit being in sociology professor mode now! (Sorry I’m writing a research article about this issue now, for a different fandom, and the fact that it’s creeping into my happy place is irksome, but I’m totally cool with talking about it!)
Ask chiltonnoodlesoup a question#raul esparza#raul ask#ask#DDOH modpost
I'm almost angry at this, especially, "If it’s (particularly cis) men doing it, anything goes. It’s perfectly ok for them to talk poorly of his relationships, the fact that he has self-identified as bisexual, etc., and even go so far as to try and follow him around in public."
How many DL's are following Raul around in public?? THAT is what the tumblr fans do, and have publicly BRAGGED about doing. And, trust me, Raul himself is more than aware of the bizarre, stalkerish behaviour from them. How impressed do you really think he was by being handed a pair of flip flops after Cymbeline? He knew that someone basically did some digging on him to find out about the flip flops symbolism. It is the tumblr fans, who stalk him outside of public events and SVU tapings, not the DL's. Then they take pictures and post them to their blogs. Incredible.
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|by helpful||reply 426||11/22/2015|
Ah, thanks. r424, but we already know that. I, along with r420/421, was quoting a Tumblr post. An exceptionally creepy one, as I noted. I suggest you start reading with r420 to get the whole picture. Although I warn you, it takes a strong stomach to read the irrationality that exists on Tumblr.
Not to make excuses for the Tumblr crazies, but I have to wonder if their foaming-at-the-mouth reaction to DL is because the people who post here about Raul, as they have for the past 13-14 years, have actually known Raul as a friend or acquaintance, and that's something the Tumblr crazies can never hope to achieve. To them he is only an object of their fantasies, and the fact that they'll never have any contact with him outside the borders of fandom makes their collective heads explode with jealousy.
|by helpful||reply 427||11/22/2015|
"kink shame"! That is hilarious. Just what a sjw Frau would say
|by helpful||reply 428||11/22/2015|
Oh yeah, sorry R422 I misread your post entirely. What can I say? I just came off of a night shift.
I have checked out some of the tumblr stuff about Raul, and, like you say in R427, I think that a lot of them are jealous of the fact that some of us here on the DL actually know Raul personally, either as friends or through acquaintances. You nailed it when you said that they objectify him. They have no problems with posting their sexual fantasies about Raul, but they take issue when posters at the DL do.
I laughed out loud, yet was irritated by the quote, "If it’s (particularly cis) men doing it, anything goes." Cis men? Really? Aside from the fact that the tumblr fan just made a sweeping generalization, implying that MEN get carried away in their "fandoms." Isn't that being "sexist" itself?
Yet, it is on tumblr where a fan proudly displayed the Raul pillow case and blanket they had made. Someone else on tumblr posted a picture of Raul riding the subway, completely unaware that his photo was being taken, and then posted publicly. Yet, the tumblr fans accuse us on the DL of invading his privacy.
It will be interesting to see what happens when SVU is over. How long will the tumblr fans stick around for then? Hopefully they will move on with their lives instead of obsessing over the poor man. I do not know Raul personally, but I am long time friends with someone who does know him, and believe me, Raul himself is aware of his newfound fans. Yes, he is polite and courteous to them when he meets them, he has to be, (but he is also a genuinely nice person), and he does appreciate his television fans. He would never be outright rude to any of them, but, he is also aware of the level of obsession that some of these people have. Think about it, how creeped out would you be by the fact that people spend their free time posting pictures of you on a tumblr blog that they made about you? Someone way up-thread made the comparison between some of the tumblr fans and Annie Wilkes, and in certain cases, that comparison is all too accurate. Not trying to imply that the tumblr fans are dangerous, but many of them sure seem to think that they are Raul's #1 fan.
R428, that is hilarious.
|by helpful||reply 429||11/22/2015|
Thank you, r424/429 - those are some very well-thought-out, astute observations. An excellent assessment of the situation.
I think what bothers me the most about Tumblr is the lack of any boundaries, or sense of privacy. They honestly feel it's fine to post their most intimate, --graphic-- sexual fantasies. To me that is just overwhelmingly narcissistic and totally disrespectful of Raul, but they will never see it that way. It may be their right to post whatever they want, but just because you can doesn't mean you should.
|by helpful||reply 430||11/22/2015|
Frankly a lot of what gets posted here is similar to the stuff on Tumblr. Posting sightings of Raul around NYC and sharing sexually explicit fantasies about him (whether the guy upthread actually ever fucked Raul or not I have no idea- tend to doubt it- but in any case that was an explicit fantasy, or perhaps worse actually private details on the off chance he really was with Raul). Info about his personal life, including the guy he is dating, etc is all here.
Not sure if people here are trolling or are just not self aware enough to realize the similarities between the Tumblr people they mock and comments here? I tend to think it's not people being actively sexist and belittling women for doing the same creepy shit they themselves are engaging in on this very message board but just lack of self awareness- either way y'all are fanboys which are no different to fangirls. And frankly if anyone here posting info about Raul DOES actually know him in real life, that's extra gross and you should stop gossiping about your own friends on the Internet.
|by helpful||reply 431||11/22/2015|
r431 = thin-skinned Tumblrina.
|by helpful||reply 432||11/22/2015|
Wait, these people purposefully seek out DL for gossip, read all the Raul threads and are "offended" by the discussions? That's like crashing someone's party and complaining about the food.
I'm with R429. I think the fact that they're discovered Raul from TV is the issue. He's not a real person to them, he's a fantasy. I've been a fan of his since Taboo. Sure, I think he's hot, and occasionally might have fantasized, but I don't think I could dissociate the person I shook hands with at the stage door and start writing series of graphic sex fantasies or slash fics or fan art, like he's a character instead of a real person with agency.
Can you imagine putting an acquaintance's face on a blanket and pillow? And proudly sharing it with the world? You'd be arrested! What about Tumblr makes it socially appropriate to behave like aspiring John Hinkleys?
|by helpful||reply 433||11/22/2015|
Lmfao, I once asked that chiltonoodlesoup blog if they ever felt ashamed posting such lewd fantasies and they said it was okay because most of the people submitting are women and it's like a "safe space" for them.
|by helpful||reply 434||11/22/2015|
Heres the message
|by helpful||reply 435||11/22/2015|
I want to choke chiltonnoodlesoup until she passes out while I masturbate on her face.
DL is my safe space to express my desires without shame.
|by helpful||reply 436||11/22/2015|
Wow R435. That really puts a lot into perspective doesn't it? In other words, it is perfectly acceptable to publicly post one's lewd, sexual fantasies about a real human being if you are a woman, and the fantasies are about a male, in this case, Raul Esparza. After all, he's read worse things about himself on the internet?
However, if men, post the same content it is now obscene and creepy?
That chiltonnoodlesoup blog is run by a woman in her 40's who is apparently a university professor. She is one of the fans who attended a performance of Cymbeline this past summer and bragged about how she met Raul at the stage-door.
Here is part of the disclaimer on her Tumblr:
"If graphic talk about Raúl’s body is not your idea of fun, you should probably permanently ignore this blog. The TBCJSCPCTSCROC is not just an acronym, it’s a lifestyle."
So, she can say that Raul's cock (acronym stolen from the DL) is a "lifestyle," but we are the one's with problems? Just wow.
Here are some of the posts she has labeled "Pervy Raúl Posts" :
"I wonder what kind of noises Raúl makes during a good shag... Maybe animalistic grunts?? 😏 "
"Certainly a possibility, anon. All those years of singing and stage work, he’d probably be quite loud too ;)"
"Ok but imagine this... Raúl in lacy, blue, see-through panties. His erection straining against them."
"Oh, anon. You have no idea how much you are speaking my language. Like these? They’d hardly contain him. It would be beautifully obscene."
There are pages and pages of these sorts of questions and answers. Seriously. And we are the ones that are perverted, nasty and stalking him? Unreal.
|by helpful||reply 437||11/22/2015|
People, please let us end the papi war. Papi is about love, not hate. Let us all embrace in our mutual love for the Supreme Papi and call an end to this vendetta. There is room in Raúl's heart for us all! Papi knows no hate, so why should we? He would want us to love each other. Let's do this for our Papi, shall we? Let's love each other. Papi would want us to hold hands and serenade him with our love for him.
|by helpful||reply 438||11/22/2015|
Awww, Papi, we all just love you.
|by helpful||reply 439||11/22/2015|
Yes, even though their hypocrisy is highly entertaining, let's not give tumblrinas more attention.
(Though Papi in lacy, blue panties is a hilarious image. Thanks, tumblrinas!)
|by helpful||reply 440||11/23/2015|
Here's the issue as I see it. Some posters on the DL have indeed made disparaging and somewhat inappropriate comments about Raúl. DL is an anonymous website, and people are free to post on any number of subjects whether they are appropriate or not. This doesn't mean that people should be making these sorts of comments, but they do. These posters are objectifying Raul as much as some of the Tumblr fans.
In my opinion, the difference between SOME posters on DL and SOME Tumblr pages (and yes, I realize that the majority of Tumblr blogs are benign and are just a method of fans expressing their appreciation for Raul and his shows/characters) is that some Tumblr pages, like Chiltonnoodlesoup, go out of their way to have sections DEVOTED to fantasizing and objectifying Raúl Esparza himself, not just the characters he plays, but objectifying and sexualizing him as a person. He is a real person, not a character. If these people were to limit their discussions to the characters that Raul plays on television, that would be one thing, but to openly share their sexual fantasies about a REAL human being, on a page where these questions are actively encouraged is extremely narcissistic and goes way beyond the boundries of 'fandom.'
It is somewhat amusing that the owner of the chiltonnoodlesoup page thinks that by putting out a disclaimer (as mentioned in r435 's post), that these posts on her page are "ok" and that since people are warned about the content beforehand they should not complain. As wrong as that is, it is nowhere near as disturbing as her answer to r434/435's question. "These things are coming from women. There's very few places where women can express their desires without shame which is very important. If someone sends us an ask it comes from an honest place. We have a disclaimer and people can block us." My question to chiltonnoodlesoup is, "Why is it ok for women to express their desires about a real person with no regard as to how that person may feel? Why would you encourage that?"
The worst and most disturbing part of chiltonnoodlesoups response to R434/435 question is this. "If you're concerned about him (Raúl) googling himself and seeing it, some women's fantasies are not the worst thing he'll see." So, in her mind, because there is other inappropriate internet content out there, Raúl shouldn't or wouldn't have a problem reading about these women's "fantasies"? That alone is beyond narcissistic and displays absolutely no regard nor respect towards the man that this woman claims to be a fan of.
What if he is upset or bothered by this? Why is a blog, which is heavily devoted to questions/answers about sexual fantasies about Raúl even necessary? In what way is this even appropriate? What gives her the right to encourage women to objectify an actual human being in this manner? And, what if the situation were different and say, it was a group of men discussing their sexual fantasies about a female celebrity? Would that be ok too? Or is this only ok because women need a "safe" place to sexualize Raúl? Is this blog of hers ok because they are discussing and obsessing over a man?
I do not wish to sound like a social justice warrior, but at what point is the line crossed between openly discussing one's sexual fantasies about Raúl and some form or sexual harassment? How would you honestly feel if it were you? Would you be fine with a group of "fans" openly and shamelessly discussing what they would like to do to you AND being encouraged to do so by the host of a blog which is basically dedicated to that subject matter?
This woman proudly displayed a picture of herself and Raúl when she met him after Shakespeare in the Park. She met him, and still she does not see him as a real human being. Or, perhaps she does, and she just doesn't care about how he would feel about her blog. Either way, it is wrong and borders on harassment.
|by helpful||reply 441||11/23/2015|
I responded to chiltonnoodlesoup when she told me that (can't screenshot cause once you send the message, you can't see it again unless they reply). I work in television and basically told her that based on what my actor friends have said, people's sexual fantasies about them are in fact the worst thing they can come across.
Anyways, enough of all that. I have a something to share. One of my buddies worked on the set of Custody, that thing Raúl wrapped up a while ago. My buddy works in the lighting department and said papi was really kind and once brought some Cuban pastries for some of the crew. He said he was quite the jokester, and when there was a long time between shots, Raúl would chat and make people laugh instead of hole himself up in a dressing room.
|by helpful||reply 442||11/23/2015|
It seems that he's changed quite a bit with time. You used to read stories about Raul being a bit of an asshole some time ago, but not anymore. Probably the influence of working with Harguitay? Isn't she supposed to be extra nice with cast and crew members? Ans she has formed quite the bond with Raul.
|by helpful||reply 443||11/23/2015|
R443, from what I've heard, Raul really toned down his sometimes "diva-like" behavior after the losing out on the Tony award in 2007. He seems to have mellowed out a lot since then, in both his personal and professional life.
As far as the Tumblr issue goes, I really think that some of those people have no boundaries. Most of the pages dedicated to Raul are innocent, and are just fans expressing themselves and connecting with other like-minded individuals, but of those pages cross the line in a major way. I agree with what r441 said, that data lounge has had assholes post about Raul, but this is not a message board which is dedicated to discussing sexual fantasies about the man, whereas that chiltonnoodlesoup page outright encourages it as others here have mentioned.
And yes, I can also see how that is a form of harassment. I agree that no one would question the sexual harassment issue if those comments and questions were posted by men about an actress. I'm almost offended by the way the blogger validates herself and her blog by claiming that "some women's fantasies are not the worst thing he'll see." That is nothing but justification for encouraging and engaging in inappropriate internet postings about a person who has no say in the matter. Her statement also suggests that because Raul may read something worse about himself, she has the right to essentially "re-victimize" him (I know, I know re-victimize is a strong word but you get my angle).
None of these people know Raul and how he may feel if he were to read these "asks" and "answers." I don't think he would appreciate a blog written about him where one of the tags is "pervy Raul post." It is disgraceful and reprehensible that this woman thinks that is perfectly fine to host a blog with that sort of content simply because she wants to and that women need a place to "express their fantasies." As many others have mentioned already, that mentality dehumanizes and objectifies Raul. It's fine to have fantasies, and I have my share too, but when they are about a real person, those fantasies should really be kept private and off of the internet. If you must discuss your sexual fantasies online, then limit them to fictional characters and leave the real, live human out of it.
This blogger met Raul in the past? That makes it especially difficult to comprehend the fact that she has no qualms about hosting a blog of this nature. I'm sure that when she met him, he was probably very cordial to her. And still, in her mind, she can publically blog about him and people's sexual fantasies about him? That shows that she is no Raul fan. She is obsessed and does not see him as a real person and can not distinguish between Raul Esparza (the real person) and the characters he plays on stage and screen. I hope that she will come to realize how inappropriate that part of her blog is and take down that section of her Tumblr page out of respect.
|by helpful||reply 444||11/23/2015|
I've been reading about Patinkin recently, and it got me wondering... how has Raúl been received by his Bway costars? Have there been any feuds or does it seem like most people would be happy to work with him again? I know Rosie O'Donnell didn't get along with him, and maybe Jeremy Piven.
|by helpful||reply 445||11/23/2015|
Those two are probably the major ones, R445, and almost everyone else involved also hated them.
He seems to have a nice circle of Bway friends: Norbert Leo Butz and Sutton Foster love him, he also bonded with Elisabeth Moss. He seemed to love the cast from "Twelfth Night" (Audra, Anne Hathaway). Daphne Rubin-Vega, Kelli O'Hara, Euan Morton from Taboo (I think Raul is the godfather of his son).
Despite the old stories, I think most of the people would like to work with him again.
|by helpful||reply 446||11/23/2015|
Tumblrinas definition of DL:
It’s a “gay-oriented gossip site” that goes back to 1995. An early internet message board. It has come up because they have talked about Raúl a lot over the years after he came out as bisexual. Googling around for info on his Broadway career will often give results from that site.
Unfortunately, they have been stalker-y of him, and gossip about his relationships in a rather negative way. Very bi-erasing. And also, they really dislike his tumblr fandom, because we’re all “hysterical fangirls.” Though they like us enough to steal our gifs. We treat him with much greater respect, even if we perv on him a bit. Avoid.
|by helpful||reply 447||11/28/2015|
Which 2gifs" from those idiots have been posted here?
|by helpful||reply 448||11/28/2015|
"Unfortunately, they have been stalker-y of him," and this statement comes from a Tumblr fan, in reference to posters on the DL? Is this woman out of her mind? I was under the impression that it is Raul's Tumblr fans who are the ones guilty of stalker-like behaviour (giving him the flip flops, making bed sheets and pillowcases with his face on them, having blog pages specifically devoted to their sexual fantasies about him etc...).
r447, is that a passage from that Chiltonnoodlesoup site? I checked out that blog last week after the Tumblr vs DL debate, and the woman has an entire part of her website devoted to discussing what various women would like to do sexually with Raul. Why is ok for women to post their sexual fantasies about him, but when gay men on a "gay-oriented gossip site" do, it's suddenly wrong/creepy?
I wonder what Raul himself really thinks of some of these Tumblr people (and their lack of boundaries). I wonder what he really thought about some random fan handing him a pair of flip flops after a performance of Cymbeline? (incidentally, according to that Tumblr fan, the pair she bought him was too big, so she sent him some in a smaller size).
|by helpful||reply 449||11/28/2015|
I think if you have one objective, sensible brain cell in your head, you KNOW what Raul thinks of the Tumblr fans.
There is one thing, more than anything else, that distinguishes Tumblr with regards to Raul - they are obsessed with him. Unhealthily, self-admittedly, and proud of it. Many a Tumblr poster has clearly and determinedly labeled themselves as obsessed with him. DL, for all it's interest in and fondness for Raul, has never been obsessed with him (although I'm sure the Tumblrinas will try and take exception to that statement). Tumblr can and does generate more posts about Raul in a week than DL has managed in the entire fifteen years he has been active in New York. THAT is obsession.
Tumblr labeled us "stalker-y" because that's all they know about how to act/react towards a celebrity. That is their entire existence. The idea that somebody might live and work in the same city and business as Raul, might actually know him both personally and professionally, is utterly alien to them. Celebrities are objects, not people, and that is their only frame of reference. They simply can't cope with anything else.
|by helpful||reply 450||11/28/2015|
I love the "Very bi-erasing" part!
They really think they still have a chance with him, don't they?
The man is gay and partnered for 3-4 years. Deal.
|by helpful||reply 451||11/29/2015|
R451, see? Now you're being "very bi-erasing." Kidding. Anyway, yeah, those Tumblr fans must think that they have a chance with him. Sad.
|by helpful||reply 452||11/29/2015|
He may be attracted to both sexes, but as far as I know, he's only dated men since (and during...) his marriage to Michele. What are we supposed to do? Make up rumors about women to give equal time?
R450 is correct. They spend so much time obsessing over Raul that they can't imagine that he lives a normal life outside of their fantasies.
|by helpful||reply 453||11/29/2015|
I love that he is soo good on Law & Order. He needs to stay on that show and away from Bway musicals. That vibrato....I can't.
|by helpful||reply 454||11/29/2015|
Looks ugly on SVU, much hotter on Hannibal. As much as I hate people on tumblr, they have a point with the whole bi-erasure thing. Just cause he's been with men for the past few years doesn't mean he doesn't like the coochie, too. What would it take for you guys to believe in his bisexuality? Polyamorous relationship with a guy and a girl? Another interview where the b-word is mentioned and he goes on to talk about it? Maybe third times the charm. Denial, denial, denial...
|by helpful||reply 455||11/30/2015|
He's never said he's bi in an interview. So that would be a start.
I personally don't question if he's bi. It's his business. But I don't know how we at DL are supposed to discuss the heterosexual half of his bisexuality when every rumor and confirmed relationship he's had over the last 10 years has been with a man. If anything, Raul is bi-erasing himself for only acting upon his gay attractions and not his straight ones.
|by helpful||reply 456||11/30/2015|
He's bi. He's just waiting for the right Tumblr fan-girl to come along. Any one of them could be the next love of his life. That'll show us.
|by helpful||reply 457||11/30/2015|
This is triggering me!
|by helpful||reply 458||12/01/2015|
R458, OMG, take a deep breath and ground yourself. This thread is now declared a safe space for you . Do you feel safe now? I'll try and get the tumbr fans banned from here, ok?
|by helpful||reply 459||12/01/2015|
He's never been quoted as saying "I'm bi", but in that infamous NYT article that was the word used. Bisexuality wouldn't have been brought up if Raúl hadn't said it. He's not "bi-erasing" himself for falling in love with people who mostly happen to be men.
Anyhooo, anybody see the Hannibal S3 gagreel? Nice part in it where papi is trying to make Caroline Dhavernas laugh during their close-up by repeatedly asking her about "balls on his chin". Brings a lovely image to mind... Also, there's a part where he dances around in his wheelchair naked. His body is so soft and especially thick around the middle, much better than when he was younger and twink-like.
|by helpful||reply 460||12/01/2015|
Some of the tumblr fans are upset because Raul has not responded to a birthday gift they sent to him. Apparently, a number of his tumblr fans collaborated on a "book" (which contains fanart, fanfiction and poems dedicated to him) in which they expressed how he has changed and/or improved their lives, what he means to them, and so on. These people are actually surprised that he didn't tweet his gratitude.
|by helpful||reply 461||12/10/2015|
They expected some sort of public thanks after they sent him a gift? How do they know he even received it?
|by helpful||reply 462||12/11/2015|
Such is the enormity of their fantasy and delusion that it would never even occur to them that he didn't receive it, and of COURSE he'd acknowledge it. He is their god and gods act benevolently towards their worshippers. Gods are even supposed to place those worshippers above everyone and everything else in their lives. They just don't UNDERSTAND why he'd DO such a hurtful thing as ignore this magical present they sent him. I'm sure by now they've convinced themselves that Other Powers somehow prevented him from enthusing (in a public forum) over the magnificent gesture they made because of course it would NEVER be his fault, he's too perfect.
(Is there an emoticon for dripping sarcasm?)
|by helpful||reply 463||12/11/2015|
R463, Will you marry me? I love you.
The only part you left out is how they may react to the possibility that their god did not appreciate their "magical" gift, and was in fact displeased by it (i.e., found it creepy).
|by helpful||reply 464||12/11/2015|
Well, it would have been nice if he would have acknowledged their gift by setting it aflame and then live tweeting about it. Do they expect that he keeps it in his dressing room or something? Don't tell me they really believe he even received it.
|by helpful||reply 465||12/11/2015|
Of course they do, r465. I mean, they sent it to the SVU production offices so of COURSE he got it. The production office would NEVER keep from him such important mail as gifts from his most beloved fans. It would never occur to them that there's a staffer assigned to go through the incoming fan mail and weed out the garbage. And that, depending on his mood, he either shakes his head or snickers at the overwhelming absurdity of the crap that gets sent to him. Oh no, he would NEVER do that!
And since, being the decent guy that he is, he once made the unfortunate mistake of enthusing over a fan gift and saying he kept it in his dressing room, that's incontrovertible proof that he gets ALL his gifts from fans, that he keeps them all in his dressing room or at home (they believe he even sleeps with some of their gifts!) and that he treasures them with the deepest of feelings. They honestly, truly believe this with every fiber of their uncontrollably hormone-driven obsessed teenage beings.
|by helpful||reply 466||12/11/2015|
They believe he SLEEPS with some of the gifts they send him? Come on! Did he really say he kept a gift in his dressing room? If so, that's a mistake on his part. You'd think he'd have some sort of publicist who would tell him not to acknowledge the crazy. I wonder if this perceived "snub" will encourage some of his "fans" to move on and find a new obsession?
|by helpful||reply 467||12/11/2015|
Would any of these people consider the possibility that IF he even received the "magical present" (thanks R463!) that it made him feel uncomfortable? I mean, these people made up a book made up of stories, pictures, poems etc... about him (and I assume his characters), that would be enough to weird anyone out, wouldn't you think? What exactly did these fans think he would ever do with such a gift?
I am a fan of his too, but I guess I am at a loss as to why these tumbr girls are so obsessed with him. Most of these people appear to be young, (although a few of them are definitely middle aged) so why are they obsessing over a 45 year old man who will never be interested in them? And, they are obsessed! I checked out some pages after they began to criticize Raul's DL fans, and oh my god! Some of them have tattooed Raul quotes on themselves, have traveled across the country for the chance to meet him, made jewelry, blankets and pillows with his image, not to mention posting endless and ridiculous thoughts/stories about him. The thing is, they are not content to keep their obsession to themselves. They are quite proud of themselves, which is scary. Some of these people seem "unbalanced." Maybe Raul has to join the ranks of other celebrities and stop making himself so accessible to these people. He's dealing with a different kettle of fish now that he has television fans instead of his long-time Broadway fans.
|by helpful||reply 468||12/11/2015|
Is this the same group of people that gave or sent him flip-flops? And then labelled us, his DL fans, as creepy and stalkerish?
|by helpful||reply 469||12/11/2015|
Yes, r469, it is.
I know it's difficult for a sane, rational person to believe, r468, but no, they would never think that. They only see their god as a reflection of themselves, that he thinks, feels and reacts to the world the same way they do, as an overly-emo, obsessed teenager. They have not the slightest clue how a 45 year old gay Catholic Cuban-American actor actually lives his life, how HE feels and reacts to the world around him, and how he relates to the people and relationships in his life, both personal and professional. I think it must be like looking through the wrong end of a telescope, for them.
Raul has always had a loyal fan following, but it was a fan base that existed solely from live performances and the one-on-one contact you get at the stage door. There was never a chance to develop the fantasy world around the god when you are in a position to see him as a real, flesh and blood person right from the start. It also took a fair amount of time, money and dedication to be a Raul fan back then. That somehow put it on a more serious, and more respectful level.
But the Tumblrinas, all they have to do is sit in front of their TV (or computer or other device) and he comes right to them, right there in their bedroom. They're so separated from the idea, the reality that this is a real person that the fantasy takes over and enlarges to god-like proportions. And it's not that Raul makes himself accessible, it's that he doesn't. He rarely tweets, he doesn't do Facebook at all, or any other social media (he has strong opinions about that) and his current work environment precludes contact with the public (that's why the Tumblrinas went nuts when he did SITP this summer - you could actually MEET him at the stage door! Their collective heads about exploded at that novelty). That lack of access just makes them crazier in their efforts to Get To Him. They think they can Change Him (heard that one before, have you?)
I think Raul has a fairly good grasp of the situation now. He's made some mistakes, but he only makes them once. If he goes back to the theatre, and stays away from film and TV work (at least franchises with a cult following), the majority of the furor will die down. But I'm afraid he'll always be stuck with a core group of Tumblrina types.
Ah, the price of fame.
|by helpful||reply 470||12/11/2015|
I remember in one interview Raúl was asked to describe his fans in one word. I think it was a video interview cause I've googled keywords and can't find a written one. He chose "loyal" and went on about how they have been with him throughout his whole theatre career. It's like he doesn't even acknowledge those tumblr folks as actual fans, just as, idk... crazies.
|by helpful||reply 471||12/11/2015|
Found it. Link is to tumblr of all places.
"What’s one word you would use to describe your fans?? Loyal. They’ve been with me all the way back since Rocky Horror. I would see fans at shows all the time and now they watch me on TV. People believe in me, and that’s so amazing."
|by helpful||reply 472||12/11/2015|
I started watching SVU because of him, but couldn't stick to it. Once in a while I check the boards to see if Raul has an episode that is worth downloading, but that's it.
He's being wasted on that show...But I guess it's a nice paycheck!
|by helpful||reply 473||12/12/2015|
Same here, R473. I can't bear to watch SVU anymore. I can't make it through an episode even if Raul is featured. SVU must be an easy paycheck for him I guess and I'm sure he has fun on the SVU set. He is the only good actor left on the show and leaves the rest of the cast standing. He seems to be the only actor on set who doesn't phone it in (or perhaps the only one with talent since the departure of Danny Pino). The show is terrible, and is getting worse, especially since it has changed from a true ensemble format to the "Olivia Benson" (and now whatever ridiculous click-bait plots involving her son).
Anyway, I'm sure that Raul appreciates all of his fans, including his television ones, but I'd bet that he does have a special fondness for his long-time Broadway fan base. I hope, that once SVU is finally cancelled, he returns to the stage. I would love to see him return to his stage roots soon.
As far as his "Tumblr" fans go, I don't think that there is anything wrong with sending an actor gifts. I'm sure that Raul appreciates the gesture as long as the gift was tasteful and not something offensive. Who knows? Maybe he really does keep the odd trinket from his fans in his dressing room, though I'm sure that the vast majority of gifts are disposed of by staffers or sent to whatever charitable organization. I'm guessing that some of those people take things a little too far and come across as "stalkerish." I've read a few of his fan blogs, some are just fans expressing their appreciation of his work in an inoffensive manner, while others (such as that Chilton noddle soup) come across as creepy, stalker-like and encouraging of such behaviour.
|by helpful||reply 474||12/13/2015|
Raul performing at Artists Striving to end Poverty, Dec. 14, 2015.
|by helpful||reply 475||12/15/2015|
Papi on "The Sunday Mass."
|by helpful||reply 476||12/24/2015|
Raul and Jim Caviezel "The Sunday Mass."
|by helpful||reply 477||12/24/2015|
Here's the link to the program. Interview with Raul at the very beginning. He sings a few times through the sermon.
|by helpful||reply 478||12/24/2015|
"As far as his "Tumblr" fans go, I don't think that there is anything wrong with sending an actor gifts. I'm sure that Raul appreciates the gesture as long as the gift was tasteful and not something offensive."
|by helpful||reply 479||12/24/2015|
Go away R479. The people on datalounge are the stalker creeps. You're the ones insisting Raul is gay, when he himself told the NY Times that he is bi. A lot of the datalounge gossip is nothing but bi-erasure. The stories about Raul, and his ex-wife, on here are just nasty and vicious. It is posters on datalounge who "claim" to have slept with him, not tumblr fans, yet you accuse the tumblr fans of being creepy and deluded. As if he would give any of you the time of day. Lots of people send their favorite actors gifts. That is far less stalker like than posting lies about him. The people over on tumblr are at least polite and respectful of Raul and we don't say that we know about or talk about his personal life. We are just fans of his, like you all claim to be. However, at least we don't make up sex stories about him, call his ex-wife fat or ugly, and make up stories about him cheating on his wife while they were still married. If that were true, why would they still be friends? You are just jealous that Raul has a wider fan base now, and that you can no longer claim some sort of 'ownership' of him. He appreciates his television fans as much as his Broadway ones, and you people who write horrible stories about him are not true fans. If you were, you wouldn't post such mean things. You must have no life if you need to come to a website and say that you slept with him, or believe posts by people who say they slept with him and make up other such stories or post about what you would like to do to him. There are posts and posts here about whether or not Raul is a top or bottom. You all should leave him alone and get your own life. Also, if you hate tumblr so much then why do you use our pics, gifs and videos? As far as "STALKER ALERT" goes, Raul should be running from the people here, the weirdos who make up stuff about him and post where they saw him etc...
|by helpful||reply 480||12/24/2015|
WTF are you talking about, lady?
Get a grip, and get the fuck out of here!
|by helpful||reply 481||12/24/2015|
Hate to break it to you, but the stories about posters sleeping with Raul come from the old, old Theathre Gossip threads, at a time when they were full of insiders and people with first hand knowledge (a fact, not rumors). We knew about Raul sleeping with men a good 5 or 6 years before that NYT article (where he doesn't explicitly say: I'm bisexual, BTW), when he was just "that guy from Rocky Horror!" or "That guy from tick, tick BOOM!"
And where are these stories about Raul's wife that you're talking about? None of these Raul threads have any attacks on her, except maybe a nasty troll from more than a few years ago....We all thought our trollina was the worst, but we didn't know of tumblr then...
|by helpful||reply 482||12/24/2015|
I have just as much right to post here as you do R481. Stop making up or believing stupid and disrespectful stories about Raul. If you can't see that you are so gullible to believe something that an "insider" posts, then you are the one who needs to get a grip. Wake up and realize that datalounge is full of people who are jealous and have nothing better to do than make up lies, which I'm sure would hurt him deeply if he knew about them.
Why do you insist that he is gay, when he has never said he is gay? Why do you all insist that he is not bisexual? What have you got against that? Does it limit the odds of any of you ever sleeping with him? or is it because you are misogynists? He was married, to a WOMAN for years. What more do evidence do you need? And yes, he did say he is bisexual. Why did the article mention that word? He was in love with his wife, he has made that clear. She is even in that video posted above (which BTW was taken from a tumblr link)
And yeah, it's people on datalounge that were stalking him and posting information about where they saw him and making up crazy stories. You do not own Raul and other people have just as much right as you do to be his fans. Also, for the people who hate tumblr so much, why do you keep linking tumblr accounts and pictures? Stop creeping tumblr pages if you hate us so much.
|by helpful||reply 483||12/24/2015|
Go back to tumblr, chiltonnoodlesoup
|by helpful||reply 484||12/24/2015|
And don't even compare the nasty and demeaning garbage written here to the content of fan pages on tumblr. I hope that Raul never finds the stories written about him here. What if his partner or family and friends those lies? Have you ever thought about how that may be hurtful? And you are worried about what he may see on tumblr? He'd be far more offended by the content here than by what some female fans post about, so get over yourselves and realize that you are no more friends or acquaintances of his than anyone else is. And, if you really are a friend or professional acquaintance of Raul's, then you should be ashamed of yourself for posting stuff about him here. I wonder how you sleep at night if you come to a gossip board to post about someone who trusts you.
|by helpful||reply 485||12/24/2015|
Jesus, I think someone is having a meltdown!
|by helpful||reply 486||12/24/2015|
Is that your big comeback R486. The only person having a meltdown is you. Perhaps you feel guilty for all of the lies and hate about Raul that you spew. Or is it that you are being called out on your trash talk?
Find something other than tumblr posts to obsess over, son.
|by helpful||reply 487||12/24/2015|
Jajajajaja! Trust me, tumblrina, I'm not bothered by you, or the rest of the tumblr crazies, AT ALL.
We've dealt with trolls like you before. It's best you crawl back to that hole you came from. Personally, I'm not the one going on tumblr or using links....Although I am one of those who came up with the tbcscpctscroc moniker that you, chiltonshitsoap, like to use.
And FYI, that tbcjscpctscroc thing? that came from the "bi-erasure" stories that you seem to hate soooooo much, so.....check yourself before going in further.
|by helpful||reply 488||12/24/2015|
Then why do you keep pasting tumblr conversations on here if you're not bothered, R488. Why don't you just mind your own business and grow up? Why are you so worried about what some women, and yes, women, (I am quite certain that I am older than you and many people I blog with are in their 20's - 50's) not girls write about on tumbl? Quit copy and pasting quotes from our pages.
"And FYI, that tbcjscpctscroc thing? that came from the "bi-erasure" stories that you seem to hate soooooo much, so.....check yourself before going in further." Exactly, why do you insist on bi-erasing? Why can't you accept that the man is bi? You have yet to provide an explanation, yet you tell me to "check" myself? Why don't you take a deep breath and check YOURself before you spew more hatred and lies about Raul and his fans on tumblr. I think you have some growing up to do.
|by helpful||reply 489||12/24/2015|
Wow, some emo Tumblrina found coal in her stocking so she's taking out all her frustrations on Datalounge. You'd better go back and play with the children in the kiddie pool on Tumblr, because you are SO far out of your depth here in the deep end with the adults. You'll never be able to get it through your head that there are long-standing facts in evidence that don't change or go away just because you don't like them and don't want to believe them. They are not lies, or stories, they are facts. Far too many people were intimately acquainted with Raul back before he became a TV star; way more than those who actually posted. The truth is well-known.
|by helpful||reply 490||12/24/2015|
Emo tumblrina? Really? So let me get this straight. You truly believe that the posters on datalounge are mature and that I am out of my depth in the deep end with "adults"? Sorry, I didn't realize that the posters here, and specifically on this thread are the definition of maturity. You can think what you want, but I am not some teen or "fan-gurl." I am probably older than you are.
Once again, you fail to state why you will not accept the fact that Raul is bi? The one long-standing fact that you seem to be overlooking here, is that Raul was married to a woman, and they are still friends to this day. Like it or not, that's the truth. He's been with women and he's been with men. He is bi. Why is that so hard for you to understand?
It is also well known that datalounge in general is very bi shaming/erasing. There are threads that are dedicated to discrimination against bisexuals, so I guess I should not be surprised that datalounge can not accept the fact that he is bi.
|by helpful||reply 491||12/24/2015|
You are tiresome
|by helpful||reply 492||12/24/2015|
You're the tiresome one here. Maybe you should grow up and learn not to believe everything you read on the internet. Stop creeping other people's web pages while you're at it.
|by helpful||reply 493||12/24/2015|
Lawdy this is getting fun. Merry Christmas to me!
|by helpful||reply 494||12/24/2015|
You would think their web content is high intellectual property! And their tone seems familiar....
I'm telling you NOW....
|by helpful||reply 495||12/25/2015|
I wish Raul would come back to Broadway! It would so much easier for me to stalk him at the stage door and give him tasteful gifts.
And if he likes one I especially made for him.......he might even FUCK ME!!!
|by helpful||reply 496||12/25/2015|
Was that the Chilton Noodle Soup chic arguing here? The one who said is was ok for women to post their sexual fantasies about Raul , right? Go away you hypocrite. I can't imagine what kind of pathetic life you must have if you blog day and night about an actor and your sexual fantasies about him.
Anyway, Raul looks great in those photos at R476/477.
|by helpful||reply 497||12/25/2015|
That priest looks like a cookie sniffer. Wasn't he the one who interviewed Raul on TV a few years ago?
|by helpful||reply 498||12/25/2015|
Wait, older than 50. I used to hang out on the Raúl side of tumblr and there was only one person older than 40. Tonizenaustin, is that you lmao!
R498, yeah it's the same priest. He's actually kinda hot.
|by helpful||reply 499||12/25/2015|
None of the people on tumblr have ever said that they think Raul would sleep with them. That's a delusion only found here. So get lost R496. And, way to prove how mature you are with your disparaging, misogynistic moniker.
|by helpful||reply 500||12/25/2015|
Both groups are fucking crazy.
|by helpful||reply 501||12/25/2015|
The only thing that the datalounge people do is insult Raul by making up stories about him. If any of those stories have any truth to them, why would they post such things about someone they claim to be a fan of? Either way, it is obvious that they don't care about him. All they do is say insulting things about him and his fans. The people on tumblr are at least respectful, R501, so don't lump us in with the crazies here.
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|by helpful||reply 503||12/25/2015|
The people from tumblr are fucking crazy. Bed spreads with Raul is a little much. Speculating about his life like he's a fictional character is a little much. Dataloungers also have conspiracy theories that Raul didn't wear shoes in a video because it's a shout-out to his foot fetish fans. To be honest that's way worse than giving a celebrity gifts but in the end both groups are taking an invasive claim on a man that odds are they don't know. Gossip, rumors, who cares, both are skeevy.
|by helpful||reply 504||12/25/2015|
There's one person on tumblr who made the pillowcase and bed sheets, R504, it's not like everyone on tumblr did that. Where on tumblr have you seen people "Speculating about his life like he's a fictional character"? Tumblr fans don't do that.
"Tanking an invasive claim on a man that odds are they don't know." That is the specialty of datalounge. The people who say they know Raul post here, not on tumblr, and I have never seen a tumblr page where anyone has ever claimed to know him or been in anyway invasive regarding his personal life.
|by helpful||reply 505||12/25/2015|
Fraus alone on Christmas with the big bottle of Yellowtail are a dangerous thing🍷🍷🍷
|by helpful||reply 506||12/25/2015|
Actually, there are at least 3 tumblr peoplr with Raúl blankets or pillows. Google "raul esparza blanket" and bask in the crazy.
|by helpful||reply 507||12/26/2015|
Who is his boyfriend now? Are there photos of the tbcjscpctscroc?
|by helpful||reply 508||12/26/2015|
Three people with Raul blankets and pillows? That's far more obsessive than anything posted here on DL. Someone up thread mentioned how some of the tumblr fans are jealous of DL posters because some of us actually know or have worked with Raul. I think that is probably very true, and that they can not relate to him as being a real person.
To some of them, I'm quite sure he is nothing more than an object that is the focus of their unfulfilled and unrequited fantasies. They claim to be his fans, and yes they worship him, but I don't understand how they think that they are so "respectful" and we, here on DL, are not. I just checked out that chiltonnoodlesoup site, and there she has posted about "Catholicism fetishes" because of Raul's recent participation in "The Sunday Mass." Others, have made GIFS of him from that program taking communion. Just exactly how respectful is that? I don't care what it is they do, send him flips-flops, make blankets/pillows with his face (ewww, creepy though), make whatever gifs of a very "sacred" moment (his taking communion), but I am offended when they claim that we are the only ones who have been disrespectful and delusional.
On a totally different note, Raul looks like he must be working out. He sure seems to have slimmed down a bit. He looks great.
|by helpful||reply 509||12/27/2015|
What is the purpose of a gif showing Raul taking communion? Are you aroused by that?
I'm actually very curious, because I don't understand!
|by helpful||reply 510||12/27/2015|
R510, apparently, some people were. Here's an ask from that tumblr page.
anonymous asked: "I feel like so many people's Catholicism fetishes were awakened by that Christmas mass thing, myself included . Oops?"
"It was really the perfect stage for that."
Just remember, we're the disrespectful, delusional ones. I don't understand how someone is aroused by Raul taking communion, but I don't want to "kink shame" anyone either.
|by helpful||reply 511||12/27/2015|
R502 if you think it's insulting and disrespectful to discuss all the men he's dated, maybe you're the one bi-erasing for writing off all his same sex relationships as "made-up stories". He's bi. Not straight. And why wouldn't fans discuss who an actor is dating? Can you seriously claim there is a single celebrity who doesn't have fans discussing their relationships? Or is it only inappropriate when DL does it because posters are discussing how he's dated men exclusively for a decade and that ruins your heterosexual fantasies?
|by helpful||reply 512||12/27/2015|
I know he's bi. He said so himself. It's datalounge that keeps insisting that he's gay and that he never said he was bi. None of his relationships since Michele were ever made public by him, so why do you keep invading his privacy by spreading rumors here? He's never made a public statement, so everything that you talk about here is all hearsay and speculation. In other words, rumor. How do you have so much insight into who he's dated, when he has never publicly stated who he's seeing? You have no idea who he's dated for the last ten years.
I think that you're the one who has some sort of fantasy about sleeping with him and you are projecting your delusions onto the tumblr fans. As R504 said, the deluded fantasies shown here are far worse than sending him gifts. You guys think that every time he wears flip flops or bare feet that he's doing it for his foot fetish fans, talk about delusional. And, what heterosexual fantasies are you talking about?
|by helpful||reply 513||12/28/2015|
No wonder Raul loves TV. He doesn't have to deal with the obsessed stagedoor tumblr FanFraus who want to fuck him.
|by helpful||reply 514||12/28/2015|
Tumblr cunts are humorless as hell. As a former "Raul and his flip-flopped feets" troll I can assure you that most of those post, flip-flops, bare feets, etc, were tongue in cheek, and Raul knows it, trust me bitch. Every single Raul OP thread had those types of jokes. There's always been that type of humour here, on these threads and on DL....That was before we were invaded by these obnoxious SJW from fucking tumblr.
Too bad they weren't here when posters on DL actually said vicious things about him, really vicious things instead of just gossiping about his love life, which most of the poster then knew very well.....be it from beings friends with Fred, or Nick, or seeing him taking Nick to the Drama Desk but refusing to take pictures together since all the catholic shit and family stuff was still eating him up. If they could actually read what it was said about Raul here then maybe their heads would collectively explode and we wouldn't have to deal with this bullshit no more.
No one here has EVER been as delusional as these new type of tumblr fans. No one here has stalked him after a performance to give him flip-flops, to give him stuffed animals. No one here has wrote poorly written garbage as "erotic fiction" or whatever with Raul or Raul's characters. No one on the regular threads thought Raul was going to fucked (or be fucked) by them, although we certainly had the upper-hand, you know...being males and all, and with him not being with another woman for....more than a decade? but well...
Gone are the days of the intelligent discussion about our favourite Raul stage performances. Those who were lucky to see him live in The Normal Heart, or who were lucky to see the 4 different masterful performances he gave in Speed-The-Plow, like me. You will always resent that, it drips out of every single fucking post you've made on this thread. It's kind of sad, that he's gained a fanbase just based on the shit show that SVU, since he's not even giving half of what he's capable of.
And before you write another stupid post: Yes, there's always been talk about his love life, about his body, about his feet, his ass, his cock. Show me a successful, good-looking actor who doesn't have that kind of talk around him. But at least here there was also room for talk about the man as a serious actor, the possibilities. These threads, and I mean the first actual Raul fan threads (without the vicious talk) started when he was cast as Hapgood! and filled out quickly with talk about his Sondheim roles, what he could do...I don't see that on tumblr, just endless, mindless gifs like Raul taking communion, Raul touching his hair, asking for a gif of Raul biting his lips. Stupid.
Interesting discussion about Raul was dying down anyway. It's been quite a while since we've talked about interesting stuff, so we only had the occasional funny post about his flip-flopped feets, or another sighting, mostly to keep the thread from disappearing. Most of the regulars probably got tired of seeing him wasting his talent on shit, so maybe they'll return when he finally gets over LOF (and the true fans were the ones who stucked with him through the 4-5 years of developing and delivering that shitfest) and starts doing worthwhile stuff. This is the most action the thread has seen in a couple of years, too bad is because of an obnoxious cow, who still clings to the idea that Raul, probably dressed as a priest, is going to leave his bf of 4 years for her and her 6 cats.
Does that trigger you, honey?
|by helpful||reply 515||12/28/2015|
R513 it's not hearsay and speculation when countless people witnessed it over the years. We have "insight" because it was common knowledge in the NY theatre community who he was dating. Broadway actors don't release public statements, but when Nick was his plus-one to all events (except the Tonys) for 5 years, they moved into together and adopted a dog, we took the hint. Raul mentions him, though not by name, in the NY Times article. Raul has dated another man in recent years. Both his name and pictures of him have been posted on Tumblr too.
And no way will DL ever be more delusional when Tumblr was posting shit like this over the weekend: "Imagine Chilton with a strong urge to fuck women with pear shaped bodies. Who are slightly overweight" and "Imagine you calling Raul Daddy while he makes you squirt for the first time".
|by helpful||reply 516||12/28/2015|
As someone who thinks tumblr fans are crazy, I must point out that you guys are getting awfully defensive about Raul, almost to the point of hysteria. Also, what *is* wrong with gifts? Actors get gifts all the time. The bed spreads and the pathetic, creepy sex fantasies are another issue entirely.
, I'm curious...you said 4 masterful Speed the Plow Performances. I thought only three? (Butz, Piven, Macy?)
|by helpful||reply 517||12/28/2015|
Jordan Lage, the understudy, who held down the fort until Norbert could get up to speed. (I'm not r515, just trying to be helpful).
Y'know, I bet the Tumblrinas truly believe Jeremy Piven really did have mercury poisoning.
|by helpful||reply 518||12/28/2015|
Wow - first time in this thread. I remember him from Company, and have seen him a bit on SVU, but had no idea about the Tumblr fans. Too much for me. Been too long since my teen years.
|by helpful||reply 519||12/28/2015|
That's right, and out of the 4 the best one was with Macy. They turned an ok play into something great, with the added "mentor-mentee/father-son" vibe. That should've been Raul's second tony, over Rush in Exit the King.
|by helpful||reply 520||12/28/2015|
You know what R515, you sound like an idiot. Name calling and using misogynist terms like c*** show how immature you truly are. What are you, 16?
What special insight do you have into Raul's faith or family issues? That is all speculation. If he has such a problem with Catholicism, then why is he, at age 45, still a practicing Catholic? You have no clue about his family, aside from rumors you read about here.
Delusional? You think tumblr fans are delusional? There are posters here that claim to have slept with him. There is a post up thread where someone claims that they had a two night stand with him and some of you seem to believe that person's story! Talk about delusional. You think having some sort of "Raul foot fetish" is funny? Yet you say that giving him a pair of flip flops is "stalking" him? For your information, the person that gave him the flip flops asked him first, and he appreciated the gift. Besides, what is so wrong with giving a celebrity a gift? It's harmless, as is writing about his characters.
I suggest you listen to R517, and calm down.
|by helpful||reply 521||12/28/2015|
It worked. She was triggered.
Fuck off. Nobody wants you here, really.
|by helpful||reply 522||12/28/2015|
R515 wins! Oh god, those tumblr chics are nuts. When did they start invading DL?
|by helpful||reply 523||12/28/2015|
R521 he mentions his faith and family issues in the NY Times article. Do you even go here?
|by helpful||reply 524||12/28/2015|
Re R521: I didn't know Vicki Pollard posted on DL.
|by helpful||reply 525||12/28/2015|
Anyone see this awful performance? Yikes.
|by helpful||reply 526||12/28/2015|
You're right, R526. That was terrible and off-putting but I'm sure tumblr people will love it, like that performance of Hallelujah from a few years back that was rightly criticized here but now it's consider the second coming by new fans.
If it weren't for Shakespeare in the Park earlier in the year, I would've said after watching that youtube video that we lost him, and that he joined the ranks of other highly self-aware and hambone performers. If he doesn't control it he'll become a parody like Patinkin.
|by helpful||reply 527||12/28/2015|
he has a very big dick and he's a bottom
|by helpful||reply 528||12/29/2015|
Christ, that performance was so overdone. Never knew Raúl could look like such a queen, though. Those hip movements and wrist motions, especially towards the end. I bet if you catch him with his guard down, he's got a heavy lisp, as well. Sexy, would love to top him. He strikes me as a bossy bottom, though.
|by helpful||reply 529||12/29/2015|
Is that a recent performance? R529, sometimes he comes across as a queen in SVU; the heavy eye rolls and sighs, the way he flounces around at times. You're right, sexy though. I'd love to top him, and yeah, he seems like a bossy little bottom.
|by helpful||reply 530||12/29/2015|
Forgot to add; I wonder if the heterosexual fantasies of the tumblr fans were diminished at all after seeing that "Simple Joys" performance?
|by helpful||reply 531||12/29/2015|
Completely different from his "Simple Joys" 10 years ago, a board favorite.
|by helpful||reply 532||12/29/2015|
It is recent, r530/531 - it's from a private benefit he did in November. It was a very unresponsive crowd, and he worked his ass off trying to connect with them and he just kept trying harder and harder but they just weren't into it, or him. That performance shows just how hard he was trying. He was pretty frustrated with the whole thing.
And no, not diminished at all. If anything, that vid sent them into orgasmic hyperdrive.
|by helpful||reply 533||12/29/2015|
R533, well that gives a new perspective on things. Poor papi. Were you there? Can you give us a rundown on the songs he sang and stories he told, if any.
|by helpful||reply 534||12/29/2015|
R530, R531 why don't you fuck off and show some respect? He's probably the best ADA on SVU and you resort to name calling, and then post about what you'd like to do to him? Why would you say such things about his "Simple Joys" performance? Now, you're stereotyping him in a negative way. Obviously you're not really a fan or else you wouldn't say such awful things.
|by helpful||reply 535||12/30/2015|
Not sure if R535 is parody or not
|by helpful||reply 536||12/31/2015|
r535 types Frau.
|by helpful||reply 537||12/31/2015|
No parody. I'm simply pointing out that the poster says things about Raul being a "queen" in both SVU and in the video above, and then goes on to mention that he would like to "top" him. So, there you go, another delusional datalounger, thinking that they have a chance with him, stereotyping him as a "queen" and "bossy bottom." This is from the person who said, "Oh god, those tumblr chics are nuts. When did they start invading DL?" Why is ok for the datalounge to post fantasies, such as their desire to top Raul, but when women on tumblr write about their innocuous desires they are crazy? At least we acknowledge the fact that he is bisexual as opposed to the majority of posters here, who insist that he is gay.
|by helpful||reply 538||12/31/2015|
R538 seems like you're the one with the negative stereotypes if you think bisexual men can't be bottoms.
|by helpful||reply 539||12/31/2015|
you girls and the tumblr fans are no different
|by helpful||reply 540||12/31/2015|
r535/8: "I think I'll write 'I LOVE ONLY YOU RAUL!' on top with pink Icing. Then I'll add some hearts with some red icing. I just KNOW he'll want to fuck me raw after I give it to him in person! Of course, it wouldn't hurt if I had a piece or two before I gave it to him, would it?"
|by helpful||reply 541||12/31/2015|
Being a fan of someone or something, doesn't mean that you can't criticize it, r535. Or would you rather we were like your tumblr crowd and act as if he farts rainbows, sneezes gold dust, and can do absolutely no wrong?
|by helpful||reply 542||12/31/2015|
Since when is calling someone a "queen" a critique? It's just name calling, not a proper criticism. How do you think he acts like queen in SVU? That doesn't make sense, it's just a nasty thing to say.
You posters are all fine with saying how you'd like to top him, but then call us deluded. Stop posting make-believe stories of how you had a one night stand with him too. As if he'd sleep with some datalounge poster. And R541? Your post makes no sense at all.
|by helpful||reply 543||12/31/2015|
R543, calling someone a "queen" is a nasty thing to say? You've just made it painfully obvious that you are a woman with no knowledge of gay culture. Crawl back to tumblr. Raúl doesn't need a knight in shining tinfoil.
|by helpful||reply 544||12/31/2015|
I'm sure that the poster meant no compliment by calling Raul and his character on SVU a queen. People on tumblr don't pretend to be his fans and then insult him. That's not what a real fan does.
|by helpful||reply 545||01/01/2016|
A real fan makes pillows with his Raul's face on them and rubs them on her crotch.
|by helpful||reply 546||01/01/2016|
And a real fan has discusses Raul's possible sexual inclinations on her blog.
"Idk if you've been asked this before, but which do you think Raúl is: Dom or sub? Or interchangeably both?"
"DDoH Mod and CD Mod are discussing this right now. Barba is definitely quite the dom, while Chilton is very clearly a sub. But Raul? While we have no idea, we think perhaps he leans toward the sub side of things…"
"Do you think Raúl is a top or bottom?"
"Honestly? I think that he’s well beyond any kind of strict binary. Besides, in any kind of situation, being versatile is way more fun."
"after teasing him for a long, long time. Needing several minutes to recover, still shaking. He would be so grateful he'd return the favour afterwards. (Damn, if I was better with understanding characters, I'd write fanfiction.) (2/2)"
"ok but imagine all the noises Raúl makes when he gets his cock sucked. Like low, breathy moans or saying “ugh, fuck” under his breath. All while guiding your head, to show you how he likes it. Imagine him shouting when you finally make him cum (½)"
|by helpful||reply 547||01/01/2016|
tumblr troll got shot down.
|by helpful||reply 548||01/03/2016|
|by helpful||reply 549||01/03/2016|
Women discussing their sexual fantasies on the internet is hardly the worst thing Raul would ever read online. What you people talk about here and the way in which you invade his privacy is much,much worse and extremely disrespectful. If y'all hate tumblr so much, then quit searching for and copy-pasting tumblr posts about Raul here. Also learn some respect.
|by helpful||reply 550||01/03/2016|
Well, imagine that! Being lectured to about respect by a Tumblrina! Bwahahahahahah!!! ODJ, I think I hurt something, laughing so hard at the absurdity!
I guess that's what it must be like to live without any concept of privacy, personal space, or self-respect.
|by helpful||reply 551||01/03/2016|
R550 oh please, on what planet is "I wonder what sound he makes when he gets his cock sucked" more respectful than "He used to date a guy named Nick"?
Women aren't "discussing their sexual fantasies" in some vague, disconnected way, they're posting graphic comments about him, personally. One DL poster claiming he hooked up with him in 2.5 years of posts is nowhere near as bad daily sexual fantasy updates.
|by helpful||reply 552||01/04/2016|
"Women discussing their sexual fantasies on the internet is hardly the worst thing Raul would ever read online." r550 you sound familiar...
|by helpful||reply 553||01/05/2016|
Graphic? Really, a few women discussing his physical attributes isn't going to bother him. At least we don't speculate on anything in regards to his personal life. A few comments about his butt isn't as bad as invading his privacy, talking shit about him and his relationships and claiming to have slept with him. We are far more respectful of him than people here tend to be.
As soon as that one poster put up his "story" of how he had an affair with Raul, other datalounge posters were all over it, indulging in the fantasy that Raul is a bottom. You tell me which is worse?
|by helpful||reply 554||01/05/2016|
Why do you keep coming back?
|by helpful||reply 555||01/05/2016|
Because I have just as much right to post here as you do, and I wish to defend Raul's fandom you hypocrite, R555.
|by helpful||reply 556||01/05/2016|
Defend from what? And you are not changing anyone's mind...
You claim to hate DL, so I just don't understand.
|by helpful||reply 557||01/05/2016|
R557, what the hell is going on here? I haven't checked out this thread in ages. Is this some nut-case trying to say Raul isn't gay? Is trollina back? I guess I can't follow the argument going on here.
|by helpful||reply 558||01/05/2016|
Just some imbecile from tumblr. It's a home for Raúl's rabid fans. A few of them have blankets and pillows with his face on them. The latest post there is a gif of his ass with the caption "I'm objectifying Raúl Esparza". The women there think that kind of behaviour is okay because they're women, but here it's awful because we are mostly men.
|by helpful||reply 559||01/05/2016|
Trollina was never as annoying as this one.
This one is likes to write fanfiction about Raul and his charaters (often with each other), yet acts in a slight homophobic way towards DLers.
|by helpful||reply 560||01/05/2016|
You should see their blog.
|by helpful||reply 561||01/05/2016|
Hold on, here it is. And it totally is them, check out the passive aggressive, moronic answer they gave to the latest ask. They actually think Raúl would be cool if he were to see they nonsense they discuss about his body.
|by helpful||reply 562||01/05/2016|
Their problem with DL is that they categorically refuse to acknowledge the fact that some posters here on DL, going back as much as fifteen years, actually know Raul. That some of us have been, and still are personal and/or professional friends with Raul.
Because according to their rules this is something that just cannot exist in a fandom. And because they know they can never ever achieve that for themselves, they've decided we're all liars. That's their delusion, and the source of all their frustrations and rantings. They'll never acknowledge the truth because they're incapable of dealing with its reality.
|by helpful||reply 563||01/05/2016|
Thanks, R562. I checked out the link that was posted earlier and there is some out there stuff on that site! Just how is okay to talk about his body like that? What on earth makes them think that Raúl would be "cool" with any of it at all? I'm a fan of Raul's since "Company," I don't know him, but I'd imagine he'd be horrified if he knew. I hope for his sake, he never finds out. He's 45 years old now, not some young "player" who is putting himself out there and posting nude selfies on Instagram.
Amazingly, or maybe I should say, frighteningly, the woman who hosts that website has a picture on her blog of her and Raúl after one of his Shakespeare in the Park performances. She actually met him and still thinks it is okay to talk about him in such graphic detail. That's some weird shit.
Oh, and I suppose that "the other places where he's been discussed" refers to DL?
|by helpful||reply 564||01/05/2016|
I don't know why the troll insists on writing off Tumblr posts as "a few comments about his butt" and disregards all the detailed sexual fantasies posted about what they would like to do with him in bed. As if the rest of us can't see it on Tumblr for ourselves.
And R554 honey, a few Tumblr posters discussed how they imagine Raul is vers. So far, every single one of your examples about how much "worse" DL is are also found on Tumblr. Except before the SVU gig, I don't recall any of his theatre fans making blankets with his face on it, or sending him overly personal gifts and complaining online that he didn't post a public thank you. So once again, Tumblr= still worse.
|by helpful||reply 565||01/05/2016|
Just exactly what is wrong with sending an actor a gift? How do you define "overly personal"? I do not recall anyone complaining that Raul did not publicly acknowledge his birthday gift, so stop making shit up about his fans. It's as if you are tying to say that his only "real" fans exist here, and others can not, and never will be part of your oh so special, exclusive club, that does nothing but disrespect him by spreading rumors and lies about him and his personal relationships.
|by helpful||reply 566||01/06/2016|
I agree with DL except I'm absolutely baffled that they think gift-giving is wrong.
|by helpful||reply 567||01/07/2016|
Gift-Giving is creepy.
|by helpful||reply 568||01/07/2016|
Gift giving is wrong when it's creepy. It's creepy when you give a total stranger an highly personal gift that shrieks "LOOK AT ME!! LOOK AT HOW WONDERFUL I AM!! LOOK AT HOW OBSESSED I AM WITH YOU!!
It is behavior that parallels that of a stalker.
|by helpful||reply 569||01/07/2016|
It was that skittle person (the one who started the giftbook) who made a post wondering why raul didnt tweet about the gift and others reblogged it and complained about his lack of thanks.
|by helpful||reply 570||01/07/2016|
I may have only stagedoored Raul once but I know he would be disgusted by a bunch of mean, bi-erasing misogynists speaking for him. The things you say are awful. They're worse than any fantasy or fanfic someone could write. I hope he never sees this. Maybe if he sees this he would tell you all how wrong you are.
|by helpful||reply 571||01/08/2016|
"Mean, bi-erasing misogynists" how so R571. The only people we have spoken against here are a few of his insane tumblr fans. You really don't think that Raul is ok with having his cock discussed on a tumblr blog do you?
|by helpful||reply 572||01/08/2016|
R566 What's "wrong" with gift-giving is that it shows you are confusing a man doing his job in front of thousands or millions of people (depending on whether it's theatre or television) with that nice unmarried 40 year-old who works in the cubicle next to you. At least with the latter you can claim some kind of professional connection and make a gesture that could lead to an actual friendship. The former is what keeps fraus like you eternally single and creepy pests, borderline stalkers. Not too long a path to boiling his bunnies. And that's NOT a euphemism.
|by helpful||reply 573||01/08/2016|
Most normal people are OK with giving actors g ifts. Maybe you're the ones who are crazy overreacting?
|by helpful||reply 574||01/08/2016|
Misogynists? That's funny. Get back to tumblr, chiltonnoodlesoup. You can whine about "muh-soggy-knees" over there.
|by helpful||reply 575||01/08/2016|
Enough with the hatred towards Raul's tumblr fans. In no way is sending or giving Raul a gift anything like "boiling his bunnies" R573. Many, many fans send actors and other celebrities gifts. Nothing sent to him was overly personal either. The "birthday book" was a collaborative effort put together by several fans. It was a heart-felt gesture from a group of people who wanted to express their appreciation of Raul and his work. Yes, fans included stories, poems, artwork and personal messages in the book. Just what is so wrong with that? It was simply a way to let Raul know how much we all appreciate him and what he means to us. If you all think that is wrong, then you all are the ones with problems, not us. It's true that Raul did not respond (so far) to the gift, but he is a sentimental person, and I'm quite sure he appreciated our efforts.
R571 is right. I hope that Raul never stumbles upon this site. He would be horrified to know that a group of his so-called "Broadway fans" are so mean-spirited and misogynistic. And yes, there is a huge difference between women expressing their appreciation for him and a group of men talking about him, his body and his relationships in disgusting ways.
|by helpful||reply 576||01/08/2016|
DL talks about the man and his performances a lot more than people on tumblr, where it's just a bunch of inane gifs and fanfiction. Like it was said before, this is not the first Raul thread, nor is it number IV. Threads about him started since he set foot on a Broadway stage, and they were filled with every kind of info, from performances to love life and orientation......you know, like any other thread on the internet about any successful actor.
And BTW, he, like almost every performer on the NY theatre community, is well aware of DL.
|by helpful||reply 577||01/08/2016|
You're wrong, R577. People on tumblr talk about his performances, interviews and projects (past and present), so it is not just "inane" gifs and fanfic.
By your logic, because other celebrities are gossiped about online, it is therefore to post horribly negative things about Raul here? That makes no sense. Also, how do you have so much insight that he reads or knows about datalounge? I hope you are wrong, and I will say it again. I hope that he never reads the garbage posted about him here. At least the fans on tumblr are kind to him and appreciate him instead of slander him like dataloungers.
You still haven't come up with a reasonable argument as to why it is so wrong to send him gifts, so instead of bashing us, keep your negativity to yourself and stop behaving like you're jealous of us and the relationship Raul has with his "new" fans.
|by helpful||reply 578||01/08/2016|
By the way this woman keeps talking about the "horribly negative things" (WTF?) people write about Raul here, you would think DL posters talk about him like he's a mass murderer.
They really are clueless.
|by helpful||reply 579||01/08/2016|
I wonder if by disgusting things about Raul this person refers to posters just stating facts about his love life: the fact that he's had several boyfriends over the years and now is happily partnered. That does add fuel to the theory that was presented before, about this woman being a homophobe, throwing around that "bi-erasure" crap because that little tiny fact about Raul basically bursts their collective bubble.
|by helpful||reply 580||01/08/2016|
The disgusting things I refer to include speculating on his love life (an invasion of his privacy), the poster/posters that claim to have affairs with him, the people here who claim to have "topped" him, the talk of him cheating on his wife, refusing to acknowledge that he is bi-sexual, posting your SICK fantasies (such as "I want to watch him squeeze a turd from his pink, Cuban hole"), wondering if his hole is tight, speculating as to whether or not he is a bottom in his relationship, calling him "ugly", calling him a "queen" and suggesting that he may even have a lisp as if that's a negative thing....need I go on? Because I am pointing out these things to you, (and I could write more) that makes me a homophobe?
|by helpful||reply 581||01/08/2016|
I don't think this woman understands that several people post here, and some of those posts she refers to are just troll....since she's the definition of a troll, and one of the worsts.
Thinking a troll posting about scat = collective fantasy of Raul's DL gay fans = homophobe
|by helpful||reply 582||01/08/2016|
"It's true that Raul did not respond (so far) to the gift, but he is a sentimental person, and I'm quite sure he appreciated our efforts."
He chucked in a dumpster.
|by helpful||reply 583||01/08/2016|
DLers, let's ignore these wackos (don't feed the trolls!) and carry on gossiping because they have some emotional and probably some mental issues. They also obviously have some weird sexual problems since they obsess over and lust for a gay guy (who will never look at them, much less want to fuck them), but that fact seems to make them feel safe (no "messy" sex to deal with, no one touching them, except in their imaginations), which ties into their "noble" defense of him. Sad.
|by helpful||reply 584||01/08/2016|
R583 for the win! Seriously, tumblr person/people, did you ever consider that putting together a homemade book filled with adulations and devotions to Raul may make him feel just a little uncomfortable? That is, if he even received the book (which I doubt, but who knows?). If you think a little gossip about Raul here on DL is worse than writing fantasy fiction about him or his characters, posting endless gifs and pictures, and making pillows and blankets with his face then you need your collective heads examined. I echo R584, he doesn't want to fuck any of you, m'kay? It's that simple.
Now, DLers, has there been any rumors about Raul and a possible return to the stage or other live performances? I'm not in NY anymore, so I'm a little out of the loop in terms of what is going on in the theater world there.
|by helpful||reply 585||01/08/2016|
It appears we have our new Dumbvida for 2016. How unfortunate. I agree with the ignoring of this boring troll.
|by helpful||reply 586||01/09/2016|
R578 slander is an oral statement, libel is a written statement, and it's only slander OR libel if it's not true. His boyfriends, some of the rumored his hook-ups, the fact that he was sleeping with men while he was still legally married to Michele- not libel!
|by helpful||reply 587||01/09/2016|
and do we know if he's actually legally divorced yet
|by helpful||reply 588||01/09/2016|
They were legally divorced back in 2008.
|by helpful||reply 589||01/09/2016|
It's not libel/slander when Raul was the one who put everything out there for discussion...No one remembers that Broadway.com interview from 2003/4 when he didn't just mention his wife but also his boyfriend? Mmmmm
Yeah, let's ignore the clueless tumblr troll
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"Okay, so the best you queers can manage in support of Raul is to go on and on about his bare feet and his shaven chest and blah blah blah, and you're a bunch of philistines, Raul is a chaste goddess, casta diva, he's a transgendered deity, living in that realm of angels halfway between the earth and the heavenly firmament, and why can't you show a little class once in a while and talk about something other than how long you can hold your breath with your nose stuffed up inside somebody's butthole, as if The Deity Esparaza, whose beauty, like Cleopatra's, has the power to unperplex paradox, would ever engage in anything so base as gratifying your tongue with his tender man-parts. He is a theater divinity, can we talk about his acting instead of his bedmates?
I'm not a prude and I'm not a Virgo, I'm a gore-smeared sex pig but there are limits, and we must place Raul outside the range of our sticky man-splatter.
Post from 2010
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Fuck off R591. You're not even funny.
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Y'know, that post wasn't funny the first time around, and totally missed being sarcastic. Now it's just plain dumb and incomprehensible.
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Is it (the post in 591) making fun of certain fans of his, R593?
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That was chekky! remember him?
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"sticky man-splatter" you people are disgusting.
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