Try not to claw each other's eyes out, girls.
What was Madonna's masterpiece?
|by Simon Halls's Fist||reply 127||02/12/2015|
|by Simon Halls's Fist||reply 1||07/25/2013|
RAY OF LIGHT, which should be one of the poll choices.
Everything after that was negligible.
|by Simon Halls's Fist||reply 2||07/25/2013|
|by Simon Halls's Fist||reply 3||07/25/2013|
Open Your Heart or Dress You Up
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Agree R2. "Take A Bow" would also make my list.
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Give It To Me.
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Vadge has no masterpiece. She has always been a blight upon the land of music.
|by Simon Halls's Fist||reply 8||07/25/2013|
Human Nature - Best lyric ever: "I'm not your bitch don't hang your shit on me." Gives me goosebumps.
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Like a Prayer was her besr.
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Gang Bang. The lyrics proved the old whore is the sex master.
|by Simon Halls's Fist||reply 11||07/25/2013|
Ray of Light, of course.
|by Simon Halls's Fist||reply 12||07/25/2013|
The gospel choir and soloist steal Like A Prayer. I'd say one of the ballads:
Live To Tell
This Used To Be My Playground
Take A Bow
|by Simon Halls's Fist||reply 13||07/27/2013|
Girl Gone Wild-it shows her unlimited vocal and lyrical abilities.
|by Simon Halls's Fist||reply 14||07/27/2013|
Like a Prayer. One of the very few Madge songs I like but a fucking brilliant one.
|by Simon Halls's Fist||reply 15||02/08/2015|
It was Holiday. She used to be "fun", remember?
|by Simon Halls's Fist||reply 16||02/08/2015|
I don't think she's done anything that could rightly be called "a masterpiece."
|by Simon Halls's Fist||reply 17||02/08/2015|
I'll let you know if she ever releases one.
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|by Simon Halls's Fist||reply 19||02/08/2015|
1st runner-up- Deeper and Deeper. I love the retro sound to it.
|by Simon Halls's Fist||reply 20||02/08/2015|
the song she never made
|by Simon Halls's Fist||reply 21||02/08/2015|
Another vote for "Ray of Light".
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|by Simon Halls's Fist||reply 23||02/08/2015|
Dress You Up or Beautiful Stranger; two examples of Pop perfection.
|by Simon Halls's Fist||reply 24||02/08/2015|
She hasn't been fun since the late 90s. Came close with Confessions, but still lots of anger in her. Music and celebrity changed after Sept 11th. She's been out-of-step ever since.
She made a career of creating iconic music. Like A Virgin, True Blue, Ray of Light ... her records usually signaled a creative twist that marked a progression. I often wonder if she has one more "iconic" song in her left, one that will play no matter the era like Live to Tell, Papa Don't Preach, Like A Virgin, Ray of Light ... I listen to radio alot and always hear these and her other familairs pop up any time of the day. Nothing after 2000, except maybe Hung Up. I just don't think the music is really that important to her anymore. Performing live is her thing - she wants to put on theatre and spectacle. And she will probably be doing that with two iron hips until she runs out of breath.
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|by Simon Halls's Fist||reply 26||02/08/2015|
She made some great pop music back in the day and I admire her for that, but these days she is a stupid idiot with her ass hanging out of her dress.
|by Simon Halls's Fist||reply 27||02/08/2015|
she is foulllll
|by Simon Halls's Fist||reply 28||02/08/2015|
Didn't she actually have a song called Masterpiece in that shitty W.E. movie she made??
|by Simon Halls's Fist||reply 29||02/08/2015|
R29 Yup, and she even managed to win a Golden Globe for it (but her winning speech sounded more like she was accepting a best director award).
|by Simon Halls's Fist||reply 30||02/09/2015|
For pure funk skank bounce and Borderline Personality Disorder fueled lyrics, I'm going with "Waiting" from Erotica
|by Simon Halls's Fist||reply 31||02/09/2015|
Another vote for "Holiday."
|by Simon Halls's Fist||reply 32||02/09/2015|
What R2 said.
|by Simon Halls's Fist||reply 33||02/09/2015|
In This Life.
|by Simon Halls's Fist||reply 34||02/09/2015|
Vogue. Her PR masterpiece (out of many) was Like a Virgin.
|by Simon Halls's Fist||reply 35||02/09/2015|
Ray of Light
|by Simon Halls's Fist||reply 36||02/09/2015|
Rescue Me. A minor masterpiece.
|by Simon Halls's Fist||reply 37||02/09/2015|
Keep it Together is probably the best song off of her best album. Especially when she mashed up sly and Family Stone. Brilliant.
|by Simon Halls's Fist||reply 38||02/09/2015|
Angel is a great 3 minute retro pop song. I agree R26. Very under-rated.
|by Simon Halls's Fist||reply 39||02/09/2015|
Vadge has no masterpieces. OP is asking a trick question.
|by Simon Halls's Fist||reply 40||02/09/2015|
The Immaculate Collection.
No, seriously. No single song on that album is "OMG Masterpiece!" as a standalone, but the whole set confirms what an absolute impact she had on pop music circa 1984-1989.
|by Simon Halls's Fist||reply 41||02/09/2015|
"Into the Groove" people
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Thief of Hearts
This Used To Be My Playground
The Power of Goodbye
Take A Bow
What It Feels Like For A Girl
Justify My Love
|by Simon Halls's Fist||reply 43||02/09/2015|
Madge's Masterpiece is the "Truth Or Darw" movie. That created "Madonna", as we've known her since.
The "Material Girl" video is behind by a nose.
"Into The Groove" and "Like A Virgin" are her defining songs.
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|by Simon Halls's Fist||reply 45||02/09/2015|
I really like "Love Profusion". Certainly not a masterpiece but the only good track she's made in the last decade or so, together with "Hung Up".
And does anyone know the title of that track where some weird Asian tribal singing was used for background? I liked that track too, though I have no idea which Madge album it was on or the name of the song.
|by Simon Halls's Fist||reply 46||02/09/2015|
"Masterpice" silly, love theme from W.E.
|by Simon Halls's Fist||reply 47||02/09/2015|
I agree with R44 about "Truth or Dare"
It was ahead of it's time and preceded "The Real Worlds" fishbowl antics.
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|by Simon Halls's Fist||reply 49||02/09/2015|
R46 maybe you're thinking of Cyber Raga? It was added to some international versions of the Music album.
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R50 No, that's not it. The song I'm looking for has a more downtempo feel.
|by Simon Halls's Fist||reply 51||02/09/2015|
What about the 12" of Burning Up/Physical Attraction... ?
The cover alone is a masterpiece and it was her first cool factor statement...
|by Simon Halls's Fist||reply 52||02/09/2015|
Definitely "Into The Groove." I love that song.
|by Simon Halls's Fist||reply 53||02/09/2015|
R46/R51: Could it be "Isaac" from Confessions?
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|by Simon Halls's Fist||reply 55||02/09/2015|
She's S A T A N I C ! ! !
|by Simon Halls's Fist||reply 56||02/09/2015|
R54 Nope, that's not the right song either. The song I'm trying to find has some weird repetitive sounds in the background. They sound something like "hoop hoop hoop". Am I making any sense here? And like I said, it's a rather slow song.
|by Simon Halls's Fist||reply 57||02/09/2015|
OK, now I've decided to download all of Madonna's albums and quickly check out all of the tracks to find that fucking song. I'm not really the biggest Madonna fan so that might give me a slight headache.
I'm not even sure that song is sung by her anymore, but I can still recall it quite vividly and I'm about 85% sure those were her vocals.
|by Simon Halls's Fist||reply 58||02/09/2015|
Why do people love Like A Prayer so much? I can't stand that song and its over the top gospel sound. Express Yourself is one of her greatest songs in my opinion.
I'm also one of the few Madonna fans I know that plays Lucky Star on repeat. Such a simple yet great song.
|by Simon Halls's Fist||reply 59||02/09/2015|
The Illuminati scares the crap out of me. I can't listen to her because she rocks for the devil. She scares me so.
|by Simon Halls's Fist||reply 60||02/09/2015|
Frozen is pretty damn good.
|by Simon Halls's Fist||reply 61||02/09/2015|
The Erotica album.
La Isla Bonita
|by Simon Halls's Fist||reply 62||02/09/2015|
La Isla Bonita is great!
|by Simon Halls's Fist||reply 63||02/09/2015|
"Masterpiece", the song, is great actually.
But "Live to Tell" is the true masterpiece -- and the one that got her career on the right track. Otherwise, she'd have been a forgotten dance artist like Stacy Q or whatever.
|by Simon Halls's Fist||reply 64||02/09/2015|
Madonna needs to go beg Annie Lennox for advice on aging gracefully.
BEG ON HER KNEES!!!
|by Simon Halls's Fist||reply 65||02/09/2015|
R57, I think you're thinking of Sanctuary from Bedtime Stories which is a really good album the later half of it had a lot of electronic flourishes.
|by Simon Halls's Fist||reply 66||02/09/2015|
The IMMACULATE COLLECTION fucks up some classics like "Into The Groove" with needless remixing.
|by Simon Halls's Fist||reply 67||02/09/2015|
I like Borderline best.
|by Simon Halls's Fist||reply 68||02/09/2015|
Agree r9 that song is criminally underrated.
|by Simon Halls's Fist||reply 69||02/09/2015|
Open your heart.
|by Simon Halls's Fist||reply 70||02/09/2015|
Crazy For You
|by Simon Halls's Fist||reply 71||02/09/2015|
I agree that Live to Tell changed people's perceptions of her, even the critics' perceptions. People knew she could turn out good ballads after Crazy for You, but Live to Tell took her to another level. Indeed, her True Blue album was the perfect follow up to Like a Virgin and cemented her a huge pop star in the 1980s.
I think Like a Prayer is one of her best overall albums. Ray of Light and Music are both good, too. I also agree with an above poster that Angel is a forgotten and underappreciated pop gem.
I'm not sure she had any masterpieces, but she did have a lot of songs that seem to endure the test of time. She was very smart when she first got in the music business and sat in on meetings, met with many talented people and realized the importance of melody and other aspects that make a song stand up over the years. She also smartly surrounded herself with the most talented writers and musicians.
My brother's ex-fiance knew a lot of people in the entertainment business in New York in the 80s. She always said Madonna slept her way to the top, but unlike other tarts, she made sure she learned from everyone on the way up so that she stayed there.
|by Simon Halls's Fist||reply 72||02/09/2015|
La Isla Bonita
|by Simon Halls's Fist||reply 73||02/09/2015|
I miss hearing Madonna on the car stereo.
|by Simon Halls's Fist||reply 74||02/09/2015|
[quote]She always said Madonna slept her way to the top, but unlike other tarts, she made sure she learned from everyone on the way up so that she stayed there.
I can believe this. People need to learn that JUST sleeping with the right people isn't enough. It might get you to the top but then you'll just fall right off afterwards.
|by Simon Halls's Fist||reply 75||02/09/2015|
Live to Tell
|by Simon Halls's Fist||reply 76||02/09/2015|
Tell me about it!
|by Simon Halls's Fist||reply 77||02/09/2015|
Another for Into the Groove. But Get Together off of Confessions is the one song I can listen to on a loop
|by Simon Halls's Fist||reply 78||02/09/2015|
It's hard to say, she's had as many memorable songs as the Beatles.
|by Simon Halls's Fist||reply 79||02/09/2015|
Agree with R78 about Get Together - a very underrated song.
|by Simon Halls's Fist||reply 80||02/09/2015|
OP is a complete moron. None of the recordings listed are among Madonna's top 10.
|by Simon Halls's Fist||reply 81||02/09/2015|
Into the Groove which for me defines the 80's
|by Simon Halls's Fist||reply 82||02/09/2015|
Another vote for "Into The Groove". That song is timeless pop.
|by Simon Halls's Fist||reply 83||02/09/2015|
R75→ Patrick Hernandez
|by Simon Halls's Fist||reply 84||02/09/2015|
Her Ray of Light album has been the best. Frozen appealed to me at the time.
|by Simon Halls's Fist||reply 85||02/09/2015|
[quote] I think you're thinking of Sanctuary from Bedtime Stories which is a really good album the later half of it had a lot of electronic flourishes.
YES, that's the one! Thanks so much. I've been looking for that song for quite some time and I was far too lazy to check out all of Madonna's albums to find it.
Apparently that isn't Asian tribal singing in the background as I thought but a sample from Herbie Hancock's Watermelon Man which features some African Pygmy traditional instruments. Thanks again!
|by Simon Halls's Fist||reply 86||02/09/2015|
Agreed, R72, we must be roughly the same age and watched the ascent as it was happening. I just remember everyone who had shrugged her off sat up with "Live to Tell".
"Desperately Seeking Susan" including "Into the Groove" (which was not on any of her solo albums then) helped a lot too, as much for her as an actor too. People had high hopes.
I agree that "Crazy for You" set up what was to come but I think she was a "whore for hire" on that one, a singer added on to the soundtrack later, right? "Live to Tell" was her as a songwriter too and a very vulnerable one. More importantly, it got me through a HUGE heartbreak at the time, ha.
|by Simon Halls's Fist||reply 87||02/09/2015|
Seems like the Madonna songs that other people prefer are never my favorites. Live to Tell, La Isla Bonita, and Frozen are just okay to me. I'd sing along if they came on while I was shopping, but they're not my go-to Madonna songs.
I feel like people vastly underrate her 1983 era and self-titled album. I love those minimalist dance-pop songs like Everybody, Lucky Star, Burning Up, and Physical Attraction. She actually looked and seemed cool back then because she had that street-kid NYC feel about her.
By the time 1984 rolled around, she and her team started to remove a lot of her edge and raw appeal. Most of the songs on Like a Virgin and True Blue were just too bubblegum to me (although I did like Dress You Up and Angel from the former and Open Your Heart from the latter). Into the Groove is obviously great but I don't think it was released as part of a studio album.
Along with her early period, her 1989 - 1992 house music is an equal fave: I looove Express Yourself, Vogue, and Deeper and Deeper. I feel like this period is the true grown-up version of her more teenage-esque 1983 image and sound. It was almost as if 1991 Madonna was the big sister or mother to 1982/1983 Madonna.
|by Simon Halls's Fist||reply 88||02/09/2015|
|by Simon Halls's Fist||reply 89||02/09/2015|
"This used to be our playground"
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|by Simon Halls's Fist||reply 92||02/09/2015|
We probably are, R87. I'll always remember her ascent, and Live to Tell was her big moment for me. I remember even my brother, who is a musician but has never been a big fan of pop music, was really impressed with Live to Tell when it was released. We used to watch the video on MTV and he's always say, "That song is so haunting." It is still one of the only pop songs he likes from the 80s.
The first song of hers that really caught my attention was Lucky Star. I thought Like a Virgin was catchy, and the video was really fun to watch at the time. Material Girl was OK, never one of my favorites. But I loved Angel and Dress You Up.
I also agree that Into the Groove, along with her role in Desperately Seeking Susan, really set her up nicely for her move to the next level, and True Blue delivered. It was a brilliant move to release Live to Tell as the first single rather than a more upbeat tune. The video, which used to matter far more, also tied into her romance with Sean Penn. The woman always knew how to market herself smartly.
|by Simon Halls's Fist||reply 93||02/09/2015|
Why does everyone mention the sleeping around? We are all mammals, we can all take a stab at sleeping around. Rather, I think Madonna is CLEVER, that's it. I know it is hard for people on the DL to understand this concept, that you can go places by using your brains.
But obviously she had brains, in terms of marketing, fashion, music, fame, celebrity, she understood all those concepts and how to work them to her advantage before everyone else, before the internet days even.
David Geffen taught a few classes at Yale on the Music industry. They should have also called Madonna to deliver lessons on how to market an artist in the music industry.
She is amazing. I guess people do not see her value bc she is a woman.
|by Simon Halls's Fist||reply 94||02/09/2015|
Most of her songs are really about the of the moment effect. Remembering that time and the videos many listed here had impact but have lost their effect over time. Videos were new at the time so the visuals combined with the audio gave them greater impact. Now most of those don't hold anything from the past except nice memories of what I was living at the time.
Deeper And Deeper
Take A Bow (really well written by Babyface)
and a favorite of mine from Bedtime Stories,
but lots of fond memories of the past, many of her songs serve as markers for time and place happenings.
|by Simon Halls's Fist||reply 95||02/09/2015|
Nobody does it better than Madonna.
|by Simon Halls's Fist||reply 96||02/09/2015|
Holiday was/is a favorite. Ray of Light was a very good album. Her brilliance is her video/MTV work. No one does it better!
|by Simon Halls's Fist||reply 97||02/09/2015|
RHYTHM NATION. Oh wait...
|by Simon Halls's Fist||reply 98||02/09/2015|
Was Madonna the first artist to really use fashion as a vehicle for fame? When she first came out, people talked about the way she dressed just as much as they talked about her music. Also, her personality seemed more "real" than most popstars. I mean, who remembers Tiffany or Debbie Gibson's personalities? Madonna's attitude stood out, and I wonder if that was a conscious marketing ploy on her end.
|by Simon Halls's Fist||reply 99||02/09/2015|
Can anyone explain the appeal (both now and at the time it came out) of Live To Tell? I'm not a fan of the song, but I'm still curious as to what people mean when they say it was a big change for her. It seems like a standard ballad.
|by Simon Halls's Fist||reply 100||02/09/2015|
Ah, actually I see now: Live To Tell was released in 1985 BEFORE True Blue and was the first time she didn't have her BoyToy image going on. So it was the first glimpse of "serious Madonna."
|by Simon Halls's Fist||reply 101||02/09/2015|
Open your heart. At the time it came out I was a rather lonely, isolated college student deperate to yell at the whole world the words: if you gave me half the chance youd see my desire burning inside of me
|by Simon Halls's Fist||reply 102||02/09/2015|
Correction R101. It was released in March 1986 per your own link.
|by Simon Halls's Fist||reply 103||02/09/2015|
Oh whoops. Thanks, R103. I was looking at the date it was recorded, not released.
|by Simon Halls's Fist||reply 104||02/09/2015|
You're on the right track, R101, though she isn't platinum movie star shocker in the video -- more of an accessible country girl instead. But the music itself, the fact that it was not just fluff lyrically, was something almost everyone could identify with, AND associated with a hot movie with a hot star (that ended up being not so remembered, granted, but still has its moments)...
It felt almost as extreme as, say, Alanis Morrisette doing that bubblegum music early in her career and then delivering "Jagged Little Pill". Except Madonna's bubblegum era was very public.
She kept building on "Live to Tell" so that alone didn't do it (if all it took was one hit, Martika would be a legend too) but I do remember a sense that she was someone to take seriously. And she was a bit of a brat rebel too so always in the press, always in mind. The fashion thing fell to the wayside eventually.
Most importantly, I think a lot of people still love that song 30 years later. Especially since we've all no doubt buried people in the years since.
|by Simon Halls's Fist||reply 105||02/09/2015|
[quote]What was Madonna's masterpiece?
She never had one. Some of her songs were catchy.
|by Simon Halls's Fist||reply 106||02/09/2015|
Bitches, go crack your copy of "Bright Lights, Big City." Download it to your Kindle.
Put yourselves in that time and place.
Madge has been at well before "then."
She's still standing.
You might loathe the skanky hoor, but give her her due. Greater yalenys than her have faded under lesser pressures.
Madge is her own masterpiece.
|by Simon Halls's Fist||reply 107||02/09/2015|
bitch can't sing and her songs worked because of the production of other people. She has no masterpieces.
|by Simon Halls's Fist||reply 108||02/09/2015|
|by Simon Halls's Fist||reply 109||02/09/2015|
Look she had all the right things come together for her to push those pop songs up the charts but it's really not correct to say she gets any due praise other than hits. As 108 states too many other people are responsible for her success for her to take major credit.
Elvis is an icon. He didn't write a fucking thing and could barely play that guitar. He's great as an icon, same with Madonna and the bitch could barely sing.
|by Simon Halls's Fist||reply 110||02/09/2015|
Holiday Isla Bonita Dress you up Crazy for You
|by Simon Halls's Fist||reply 111||02/09/2015|
R110 is a sad, bitter fatso with no friends.
|by Simon Halls's Fist||reply 112||02/09/2015|
Let's all jump into the looney bin with R108!
|by Simon Halls's Fist||reply 113||02/09/2015|
R100 Live to Tell was a big surprise to most, she opened her True Blue album with it. It was quite a departure from everything before and it was a huge hit and a really beautiful, affecting song. She never really did a ballad before this and it set the stage for many successful ballads afterward. Patrick Leonard wrote some really lovely stuff.
|by Simon Halls's Fist||reply 114||02/09/2015|
Bagging Warren Beatty. She got blue chip fast with that move
|by Simon Halls's Fist||reply 115||02/09/2015|
R114, you're about Live To Tell and Patrick Leonard. What else did you like?
|by Simon Halls's Fist||reply 116||02/09/2015|
Too lazy to look but pretty sure "Papa Don't Preach" opens the album. Followed by "Open Your Heart" and THEN "Live to Tell." Not hard to remember since there were only eight or so tracks and half of them (over half maybe?) were hit singles.
|by Simon Halls's Fist||reply 117||02/09/2015|
Shoo Be Do
|by Simon Halls's Fist||reply 118||02/09/2015|
Cheated and looked it up, "White Heat" comes in at Track Three, then "Live to Tell". And, yes, 9 tracks with 5 hit singles. Back in the album days.
Nice and "Like A Prayer" was coming up and even better. That might've been her peak, certainly for Phase One (with "Ray of Light" for Phase Two).
|by Simon Halls's Fist||reply 119||02/09/2015|
R114 I meant you're RIGHT about Live To Tell and Leonard. What else of his did you like?
|by Simon Halls's Fist||reply 120||02/09/2015|
I think the one-two punch of "Live to Tell" followed by "Papa Don't Preach" was really a master stroke on Madonnas part.
Once she was able to change peoples opinion with "Live to Tell" her reinvention with "Papa Don't Preach" practically defined the term.
The song was a statement religiously and politically.
Coupled with the artistically reinvented shock of her platinum blonde hair...
There is a reason why Q magazine called her the Elvis of female recording artists.
|by Simon Halls's Fist||reply 121||02/10/2015|
Rolling Stone cover from that era in 1986.
|by Simon Halls's Fist||reply 122||02/10/2015|
How shocking was it to see Madonna's transformation back then? I wasn't around, but it sounds like it was pretty rare for a popstar to change her look whereas now it's commonplace.
|by Simon Halls's Fist||reply 123||02/10/2015|
I should have stated Live to Tell was the first single off of True Blue.
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|by Simon Halls's Fist||reply 125||02/12/2015|
Live to Tell really is a fabulous song. But that horrible performance of the song on one of her tours (where she is singing on a cross with pictures of starving African babies in the background) is typical preachy-teachy Madonna crap. She also had to ruin her pretty decent Superbowl performance with that cheesy "World Peace" sign in the end.
|by Simon Halls's Fist||reply 126||02/12/2015|
Yes R126, she has done some really bad arrangements of Live to Tell. Too bad.
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